Clara Sousa-Silva: Searching for Signs of Life on Venus and Other Planets | Lex Fridman Podcast
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Clara Sousa-Silva is a quantum astrochemist at Harvard. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:39 - Discovery of phosphine on Venus
14:16 - Phosphine gas
24:29 - Searching for molecular fingerprints
35:26 - What does a quantum astrochemist do?
50:31 - Spectroscopic networks
54:56 - Biosignature gases
57:49 - UFOs and aliens
1:11:06 - Alien civilizations
1:28:42 - Programming
1:35:57 - Why science is beautiful
1:39:50 - How to be productive
1:50:09 - Books
1:51:41 - Meaning of life
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1:39 - Discovery of phosphine on Venus
14:16 - Phosphine gas
24:29 - Searching for molecular fingerprints
35:26 - What does a quantum astrochemist do?
50:31 - Spectroscopic networks
54:56 - Biosignature gases
57:49 - UFOs and aliens
1:11:06 - Alien civilizations
1:28:42 - Programming
1:35:57 - Why science is beautiful
1:39:50 - How to be productive
1:50:09 - Books
1:51:41 - Meaning of life
Lex you are the man!
Please Sir, what is that Cube of Green wisdom called?
Lex, your take on UFOs/extraterrestrial life on this episode was inspiring. Bravo 👏
Darkseid is
Respect. Your the real goat bro. The more I listen to your conversations the more I realize how empty most conversations are. If you ever need literally anything Im just down the road a bit. 💪🏿
This level of exposure to royally intelligent discussions is one of the greatest achievements of this century. I can't put into words how much I appreciate this quality of information.
The thirty words you typed is a good start
I couldn't agree more. I imagine people at one time used to sit on the stairs in front of the beautiful buildings in Rome and perhaps here similar quality.
It’s amazing. I can’t get enough of astronomy, astrophysics, aliens and ufos, etc. It’s amazing that there are flat earth people who clean toilets that criticize scientists like these ones.
Thank you for reminding me how thankful I should be about a lot of things including this
Lex can never be repaid enough for the fact he gives us access to people and information like this. And he doesn't to be either. Thank you Lex!
@@MrMDanny you do know how this works right ? Lol
@@MrMDanny I sure do .
Huh?
@@OMAR-vq3yb If you think he does a lot of money doing this you haven't been paying attention to UA-cam this last few years. Given some of the themes, I might actually be demonetized in some videos.
I know, he has replaced Joe Rogan
For what I listen to on long drives
I drive Tractor Trailer, I can certainly say that Lex Podcast would have led to me staying in college if he was around 20yrs ago.
Because by the time I get out after driving for 6-8hrs straight I'm just fascinated with everything ..
I like the astrochemistry between them.
@@domenicoconnor3239 SIMP
Lex is like this all the women he interviews. Just a dang stud!
Don't see a ring on her finger
@@jjl868 maybe shes not backwards and doesnt believe in bs like that, also shes got a man
She's beautiful
"I'm a human." ~Lex Fridman
@Lex Fridnam People can spell, bro.
🧐🤔
Top tier flirtation
This is easily one of my favorite Lex podcasts. Clara is so articulate and Lex asked excellent questions to get her fired up. This is a such a treat!
I agree, absolutley fantastic, she is so perfectly articulate
so proud that she is a fellow portuguese.
i like to think they did it after the podcast
I agree. Great interview I learned a lot
Awesome, nerdy, cool lady.
"Why don't you climb a tree?"
What a primate thing to say
Lex has met his kryptonite. Beautiful intelligent easygoing open minded female scientists
To be fair that is most people's kryptonite.
many adjectives
She doesn’t seem to have a drive to keep humanity alive. We are sitting ducks on Earth. How many times has civilization been rebooted?
@@enriqueflorendo *How many times has civilization been rebooted?*
Highly unlikely that there is no evidence of a civilization reboot, and since no evidence has been uncovered, I doubt that there has been more than one iteration of civilization.
@@chucklindenberg1093 there’s evidence. The Egyptians did not build the pyramids. There’s water erosion and markings that could not have occurred during that time. They inherited it and used it, they didn’t build it.
Quantum Astrochemist is the biggest flex of 2021
I didn't even know that this title existed.
Sounds like it would be the name of a Series. The Quantum Astrochemist
@@stephenthedude4383 Dude! Secure that name now. 😄
@@GK-qc5ry that’s how you know she’s super smart
Even flexier: Computational Quantum Astrochemist
1:18:59 LEX - “I’m a human”
Nice try Lex😀
I like his laugh after that "yeahh this stupid bitches never gonna find out who I really am"
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㄲ ㅋㅋLoL
And she's like "yeah, I know🙄
I love Clara's thirst for knowledge and education in her otherwise nihilistic world. Fantastic podcast, Lex - as always.
Thanks for your comment ... Let's discuss more about crypto future/profits.
Great Job Clara, parabéns és um orgulho para Portugal 💝
Clara being more of a realist than a dreamer like Lex brings great balance, excellent podcast.
extreme confidence
Yeah, can't wait to see the kids.
They're perfect for each other 😭
@@sunflower-oo1ff No ring. So maybe.
Lex does sound very far-fetched when it comes to discussion with alien life. Clara Speak so much logic and common-sense I Agree with her, do believe Intelligence is very rare!
Always excited to see a new upload close to bedtime. Put the kids down for the night, put on the headphones and enjoy
...... and smoke alittle weed.
Right there with ya
@@CharlieBrown723 Give the kids some brownie too
In a way, podcasts have brought modern society back to the era of radio programing before the advent of black & white TV.
Good vibes :)
Clara is amazing, her chemistry is great. This was like a date with Lex haha
eew dont be creepy
#findlexalady
finally someone speaks lucidly about the "meaning of life" in Lex's company, i hope he gets it.
please Lex, invite her often. let's hear her takes on everything, she is amazing.
.......and she is hot!
This is what we call naive empiricism, where the scientist finds "relief" in reductive understanding. Whatever that feeling of liberation inducing nihilism, it's contentment from the idea that everything and anything can be modeled and subjugated by human reasoning. In actuality, it's confinement into self-contradicting notions: meaning if life, but meaningless universe. Ironically, a meaningless position.
@@dunebuggy1292 lol, as an empiricist, come back to us when your philosophical bullshit can deliver a testable hypothesis! And why must life have some greater “meaning” beyond whatever meaning we derive internally, or to each other? Arrogant to assume we were put here for some greater “purpose” (whatever that may mean in this context), rather than just the result of millions of years of evolution. You may find it confining, because you may not be able to conceive of a universe wherein humanity has no greater purpose, but it’s far more liberating to learn we set our own meaning than having it set for us by some greater power.
Frankly, this spiel of yours reads like some sanctimonious Petersonian bullshit.
"First off, we do not shit on giraffes"😂😂
😂😂😂
Kinda hard to looking pragmatically.
she was so pragmatic and focused and that broke her.
@@zakktothefuture Ricky Gervais and Lex were right though in the context of hyping up giraffes and ants and then shitting on humans. I'm sure Lex held it in for the sake of the podcast but it shows she is kind of detached.
@@lastword8783 she was messing with him, clearly went straight over your head
1:17:54 That discussion about giraffes is priceless
Agreed. It seriously made my day!
awww
R/Giraffesarentreal
ultimately she came off as kind of childish there.
@@lastword8783 You cant have a conversation like this one witha giraffe would be my counter argument. Only humans can do that so far.
Also if she loved giraffes so much why doesn't she study them.
This a riveting two hours, loved every minute of it. Clara is amazing, she could talk for another 200 hours with Lex and I'd listen.
Me too.
Gotta love seeing two AI's get along like this. Would love to see them get together.
I stopped listening to rogan to listen to this. PowerfulLFP
I didn't stop. But Lex is far far more accessible. It needs to be a really good JRE for me to open Spotify and navigate it's laggy shit UI.
The latest one with Brett and the Lung Specialist/Virologist was fucking amazing. Go watch it. The guy with the bear grease was kinda cool too.
Yeah, he should've stayed away from politics. Also whines constantly about transgender people, gender nouns and shit, who gives a fuck. Bear attacks and aliens Joe, know your wheelhouse.
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@@runningbear6391 literally, unless he has a brand new guest with a brand new topic, you can generally make a good assumption of about 90% of the podcast.
@@runningbear6391 Same here.
Clara, this was tremendously engaging and fun. Thank you. You are an intelligent, funny, and brilliant storyteller.
One of the best interviews. She’s easily one of the most brilliant scientists I’ve ever spent time listening to.
thank you Clara. Carl Sagan did not write the line about "an awful waste of space" it is not in his book but I am pleased it is attributed to him. I wrote the line in my script adaptation of Contact I did with Carl and Anne which was a wonderful time in this writers life. I cobbled the line from Thomas Carlyle who wrote about the waste space in the 17th century. Carl was very please with the line and said that was the them of the film.
Thank you for your incredible work! I knew the line wasn't in the book but it did feel like something Carl would say. I think about it often, and it has inspired a lot of my research.
The internet is small. It's great to see these comments scattered around the place.
Thank you
i like to think it is Carls' voice. Let him take credit and glad you know the book@@clarasousasilva4205
Lex rules UA-cam now! 💪🏼
Lex… if you are interviewing the leaders of the New Galactic Federation please send this one right on through! You’re killing it, you inspire me. You inform us all
I wish Clara Sousa-Silva would create a youtube channel or alike , and teach us more about her field and her research.
1:24:03 She's brilliant AND has a sense of humor
Beautiful, smart, nice accent, clearly take good care of herself and can easily explain quantum physics. Mother nature’s perfection. Thx lex.
That's portuguese people for you.
This channel has become one of my favorite sources of information. Thank you Lex. We appreciate you vastly.
I really enjoyed her as a guest. Enjoyed her fluid answers about difficult subjects but she explained them without ruining the tempo of the interview.
I could listen to Clara speaking clearly and passionately about science all day, very entertaining
I haven't seen Lex smiling as much as in this podcast.
Its call blushing madame
yall are seeing what yall want to see, a bit pathetic really
@@linkinlinkinlinkin654 he thinks shes cute. wym
@@linkinlinkinlinkin654
No challenge to know who L voted for.
And here is the energy essence of the recently defeated party......cruelty.
@Ana Zita Fernandes
You’re just seeing the beta rollout of his new emotion software update. Our boy is becoming more human every day
Such fun conversation, they were playing off each other so well. Awesome
What an absolute pleasure it was to hear Clara speak, so grateful for her agreeing to be on this podcast. Absolutely fantastic.
I'm absolutely addicted to your podcasts Lex. Thanks for everything you do to make it happen.
Got a lot of respect for Lex for keeping his cool during this podcast.
Both weren't vibrating on the same level and noticed lots of misalignment of views on topics and interpretation.
It's amazing to see how lex kept an open mind while the guest was pretty much close minded for a scientist.
Lots of previous guests practicing science showed an open mind and the ability to show that they knew so little.
That wasn't the case here. Wondered how much her past played a role in this strong bias that is carried over in her work...
yup aliens arent here
Clara is an absolute gem. I feel privileged for her being in the world making her incredible contribution. Thank you! Thanks for introducing her to us Lex. You do great work and you have captured this unique space you inhabit like it was meant to be...
You interview the most inspiring guests. And, you do your homework so your interviews are over an hour and sometimes two hours. Someday, hope your podcasts become homework for high school and middle school students.
Thank you for the time stamps Lex. This is one of my favorite guests you've ever had. Clearly brilliant. Brilliance cam be vulnerable because brilliance seaks truth not victory in conversation. (Unintentionally corny). Thank you so much for the work you do to bring scholars like this to the forefront where they'd otherwise never have a platform of this magnitude. Genuinely thank you.
@Pinned by Lex Fridman I bet this works at a lower rate on this channel than almost any other one on youtube @mod
This has become the best podcast by far. Thanks Lex
Hola
Hakuna matata
Totally agree I really enjoy Lex… Robot or not! Lol brilliant
Agreed! He has the intellectual capacity and more importantly humility to adjust to any guest's level.
this and bad friends :)
I just love Clara’s humility and humour. Inspiring human being.
This person is amazing. I really like her take on intelligent life. She expresses it as a blink. Makes me appreciate the time in which I'm living, the civilation, the progress. It's quite unique, to her. Something that is not meant to last. Fascinating.
Great to hear a guest explain the current approaches to the search ...such a clear and natural speaker this lady ...I suggest she gets her Own podcast her voice and manner is perfect for it ......
Great interview! Really inspiring! Also, I find it hard to shit on giraffes. Giraffes, however, can quite easily shit on us.
almost all birds can shit on giraffes.
Dear LORD she is brilliant. Her problem-solving is out of this world. I'm showing this entire episode to my daughters right away. And my son for that matter. She took the idea that perfection is often the enemy of accomplishment to a quantum degree. Literally! I'd be interested in how she was able to codify the descriptions of the various molecules she gathered piecemeal. What a mind. I'm so impressed. And humbled. I clearly need to read far more than I have been. I hope she gets her funding, I really do.
Such an amasing interview thank you🙏
May she get her funding🙏.
I just love her attitudes toward potential life all the way to her view of herself as a programmer. What a breath of fresh air from a true scientist. "Lost power, but gained company" is an example of her - insights!! The end of this video reminds me of ... "the benign indifference of the universe".
I agree with her completely. If they can come here, we can NOT hide them.
But they could hide themselves.
At 1:21:21 Clara: "Human are my favourite species. Some of my best friends are human" LOL
If they ever become friends lex would have to fall in the robot category.
I've heard that quote before. Apparently it's a Dr. Who reference going back to the 70s.
I prefer cats and computers over dogs and humans.
The analogies presented by both of you in this interview are inspiring. Her excellence somehow enhances her humor, which is rare imo, but she communicates her emotional relationship with her work so eloquently at the same time. And as usual, your questions are so effective at eliciting the most profound elements of her experience.
And imo, you're more like a Phil Jackson to her Michael Jordan. Never forget that elegance, especially within language, means simplicity. I adore that she prompted you to ask your question proudly. Very fine and inspiring entertainment.
This was an awesome listen. I let my seven year old son listen to this as well and he was also intrigued. I love how Lex ponders existence, because I do as well and I can relate, which engages me.
@@imnot18okay wow
yey Portugal!!
Same here. Does anyone in Portugal has even heard about her?
@@LHSlash after seing this I googled her name and seems that she's been on the RTP's news a few times, but besides that I haven't heard about her
Portugal CARALHO!!!
e o inglês dela é impecável
@@diogocruz8985 The most Portuguese comment of all time.
Bautiful poetic interaction - I love it. Please do another episode with Clara 😻
This one is one of my favorites. Very fascinating topic all around! You should have her back on in the future.
I enjoyed this podcast episode immensely. Please have Clara back on quickly and frequently.
My man want's to know the meaning of life.
What is the meaning of the life of a flower?
If your boyfriend wants to know the meaning of life, he should watch this podcast.
Lex is MY man 😍
Tell your man the answer to the meaning of life is 42
@@jillmarie180 é meu!
enjoyed this one Lex. Hope you get Clara on again
This interview just got better and better as time goes on. Deeper questions. Longer and deeper answers. Wisdom. Complexity. Emotion. A wonderful and captivating conversational dance between two humans who have a strong sense of security in their own being and the open expression and examination of it from their unique perspectives.
This brought me to tears from time to time throughout this duration. Good tears, educated tears, and happy tears.
“Since I can get the job done, I’m a programmer
But since no one else can look at my code, I’m a bad programmer”
Story. Of. My. Life.
I've determined your banter and chemistry warrants a second date Lex.
Clara is a dimepeice, Lex should def shoot his shot.
hopefully their second date went well.
"I'm very passionate about not finding meaning in the universe" is one of the most quotable things I've heard in my life. To Clara goes the credit.
Really? I actually think it's kind of an odd thing to say, I prefer the way Elon looks at space exploration.
@@NikomaGrob did you listen to the context in which she said it?
@@mackenmd Sure did, I still disagree with her statement.
@@NikomaGrob my point is one need believe in one of the invented gods in order to have meaning.
Excelentes explicações, Clara! Os seus estudos são fascinantes. Muitos parabéns!
Lex hates on giraffes: 01:17:53
Comes back to bite him: 01:23:49
giraffes can kick on Lions..
what an amazing guest… i loved how she didn’t entertain romantic notions of alien visits. I think it’s good sometimes that people draw hard boundaries at what they believe in, because it creates sharp edges for debate, rather than fuzzy areas where everyone just agrees in different degrees
Agree--Lex got a bit cringey there and reminded me of myself at about 15 with the ideas about aliens and their perceptions as he imagines it.
I found that unfortunate actually. She made a hard assumption about interstellar distances which is akin to us saying that a sea is impossible to get across because we only have rafts. Unfortunately Lex also didn't do a great job of presenting his case or countering her hard assumptions.
You guys have such great chemistry, 10/10 podcast
She is absolutely charming and this was such an interesting conversation. Thank you for everything you do Lex...I am hooked on your conversations!
I found Clara so easy to understand on a subject that stretches my basic capacity of comprehension.
Interestingly, she is one of those people that becomes more attractive as she speaks.
A pleasure to listen to
Clara Sousa-Silva is a pleasure to listen to.
What an amazing interview! Dr. Clara is a genius with a great sense of humor! Thank you both for contributing your knowledge and time for the betterment of humanity. Seriously I feel better after listening to this show; so inspiring and entertaining!!
She is so awsome! That punshline at the end 🤣 Wow! What an interview! Thank you so much Lex! Keep it coming! You enrich my simple existence and kept me from going insane in quarantine.
She is so awesome! Brilliant scientist, awesome person, a wonderful speaker and with an killer title "Computational Quantum Astrochemist"
Lex, thank you Sir for this channel where you provide us with this content. It is incredible that we are so fortunate in this time to not only be able to get such quality content, but to be able to get it for free. I can't thank you enough for using your inquisitive mind to give us guests like Clara. Thank you so very much.
this podcast will be one of the most valueable heritages of mankind, when we finally have managed to wipe us of the planets face. viewers of this episode will be stunned, how a species that has "built" such beautiful (in any hindsight) protagonists, on the other hand could be so stupid and gruesome to extinguish itself ... anyhow, thank you lex fridmann, you are one of the best
Lex's advice on not getting lost on obsessive programming techniques and optimization is spot on. There should be an effort to recognize a balance between getting shit done and making sure the code is well written enough to scale (and future proof).
Loved this conversation so much! Clara's work is fascinating.
Great guest!- She's awesomeness
Another lovely human being invited. There's an inmate and life choice about honestly and humble in scientist, that all I've got for them is gratefulness and love.
Never heard about phosphine or Clara before, thanks a lot Lex.
"Do you want to try that question again proudly?" Priceless.
The confidence of some scientists is exhausting
Exactly. Also why I think that lex’s mindset and approach to things has to be commended amongst the others who have a less than open viewpoint on things.
Lex's intellectual humility is my favorite quality about him. It's sad how rare it seems to be these days
She lost me when she said there’s a higher probability of there being a “mini earth” inside our earth, than there is aliens traveling across space. Yikes 🤦🏻♂️
@@collin6270 she lost me when she said that she doesn’t understand the human need to “go”……and also the period elements thing….
Glad to have found this thread, the love fest in the comments is slightly irritating. She's brilliant and all, yet so incredibly close minded. She has no basis for her assumptions of what potential aliens would or wouldn't do, yet has no problem projecting her own thoughts on them.
Also, "the earth would be better off without us". What a weird thing to say.
Magnificent interview. Bravo. Thank you.
THIS WAS SUCH A GOOD CONVERSATION!!!!!!!! Bring her back soon !!
It is such a privalage, to be able to listen the contructive dialogue between two sharp and engaged minds, dealing with the most current scientific persuits. Thank you, Lex for bringing us exccess to all of this content. Great podcast/s
Love these two! Hopefully they will have more discussions....and maybe drinks?
"Commander spiff" lmao
Shout out Invader Zim tho
The Filthy earth human thing got my name wrong
Hah, that's it! My brain got lost somewhere between Spaceman Spiff (also an excellent example) and Invader Zim
@@clarasousasilva4205 haha yeah.. will u marry me?
One of your most inspiring guests; she does not need us to occupy some superordinate position amongst the species on this planet. How do we know the capacity for introspection is unique to our species? Giraffes may have "goofy" necks, but at least they're not still building nuclear weapons lol.
Love all your conversations Lex, and this one was no exception. Thanks Ms Sousa-Silva!
Clara is an excellent guest, thank you Lex for another great interview/discussion to hear.
FANTASTIC!!! Good job, Lex for picking such an inspiring person!
"How bad can I get for the work to be worthless"
Why does it sounds so nice to my ear ?
"How bad can I get for the work to still be better than nothing so that I can do more work ?"
“We do not shit on giraffes” 🤣
Another great guest. I love the ideas presented.
One of the best podcasts Lex has done. She's brilliant.
Two brilliant people engaged in conversation which is in turns insightful and amusing. Thank you for such an excellent podcast.
Another fantastic guest and extremely enjoyable conversation. Thank you, Lex. Thank you, Dr Phosphine :-)
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"the universe does not sacrifice; life sacrifices"
Exact point my brain broke
Because the universe doesn’t care whether we exist or not
Thank you Lex! Amazing interview
What an intellect on display here! I do wish Lex would press more on her views about the unlikelihood of finding intelligent life, particularly around the credible observations in our own backyard.
Lex Fridman, thanks for this ep! Scientists from small countries must be introduced to the world! There are so many and so bright! Go Portugal! :D
@38:32 “ I wonder what the most efficient way to diagonalize a matrix is.“ - Lex Flirting
I think they were made for each other