I'm a newbie to the knife EDC world. I purchased the Yellow Mini Griptilian first. It was my first Benchmade and experience with an Axis lock. I liked the Axis but found it to be "sticky". I have read and seen reviews that say you have to "break them in". Then I bought the Deka Red, White and Blue Edition. The able lock worked flawlessly out of the box. I immediately felt like a a bar lock veteran, with perfect flip open and drop shut precision. I am now anxiously waiting on the Hogue Ritter RSK MK1 I just purchased. Definitely a Hogue fan.
Hogue ALL the way. And I'm a big Benchmade fan and have many of their knives. Hogue is just a step ahead of them in many ways. Thanks Allen Elishewitz.
Better (imo) blade Steel, more rigid g10, longer lasting springs, still super light, Deka all the way for me. I have an all black one with a wharncliffe blade and I love it.
If anyone is interested, the new, revised Deka has a slightly different g10 milling that works with more pocket clips. It also has an option for a deep carry clip which is much nicer to use. I think it's a no-brainer for most people. Deka is the same price as the bugout (about $140 as I'm writing this) despite having superior g10 handles and 20cv. More importantly, it is much more rigid. Getting a bugout with g10 + 20cv will run almost $60 more and because it doesn't have all the screws, will still not be rigid. To get an actually rigid knife requires spending another $70 on top for titanium scales. I should also mention that the titanium crossbar on steel with the bugout means the lock will always stick a little and to my knowledge, you can't get a steel replacement.
I think if your main concern is weight (eg carrying in jogging shorts) you got to give it to the Bugout. However, for general characteristics the Deka wins. Some people don’t like how the Bugout handle can be bent... feels cheap. Many guys buy the bugout and then buy G-10 scales for another $40... if you do that you should have just gotten a Deka.
Not necessarily. I find the more neutral handle shape of the Bugout to be superior, especially given that it allows you to get quite close to the cutting edge. But I have the M390 aluminum version because I do want that increased rigidity.
I own a blacked out Deka, and it is by far my favorite knife right now. It feels great in the hand, and the Able Lock is incredible! Living in Texas, where it’s always shorts weather, the Deka does a great job hanging out in my shorts pocket.
The hogue seems like a better deal. Plus hogue is a far more respectable company than benchmade. I've been saying the LW para 3 kicks the bugouts ass for a while and the deka is on the same boat
damn thats a tuff call. I definately prefer the overall design of the bugout with the straighter handle but Hogue makes a strong argument here with the g10/ blade steel etc. hmmm If Hogue would fix that handle and make it where i can get a full 4 finger grip I'd be all over it.
Hello D.C.A., I'd choose both the drkst. Hogue👍 and the blk.out Benchmade👍, btw good job describing the differences, for sure👍👍!! Keep up the good work and keep these vids coming! Have fun and be safe, take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 👍👍🙏😇👊
I own five Bugouts and two Dekas. Honestly, for me, it's a toss-up. The Deka is more stylish while the Bugout is probably a better all-around knife. I love them both. The Bugout is definitely more popular, but it has been around much longer.
I saw the hogue deka and it just looks so good I was gonna go with a bugout with s90v or the Osborn/940 both benchmade but I think I’m gonna buy the deka
Love both companies and knives although I think the Bugout is WAY overhyped. That being said the Hogue Deka is a much better knife and the ABLE lock fixes some issues with the Axis lock. Hogue is always a step or two ahead of Benchmade and slightly more reasonably priced as well. I just don't like the scales on the Deka, just not doing it for me. If was Carbon Fiber or even solid colored G10 I'd like it much more. Thanks again Mr David C Anderson.
@DieselDabz710 The "overhyped" has it's perks... like lots of aftermarket stuff to modify your Bugout. Yes, that does drive the price up, but as it is optional it is not an issue. Personally, I like my CF Bugout and my Blue Titanium Bugout
Broke the omega spring on my bugout, while waiting for the repair from benchmade I purchased a deka. I haven’t received the house yet but I can’t wait to compare
For the money & as delivered, the Deka seems to be the better buy with better steel, excellent factory edge, and handles that don’t flex. On the Bugout’s stock FRN you can literally squeeze them hard enough for one side to touch the other when open. To me they do feel cheap. I replaced mine with Rogue micarta scales - about $90 The Deka lacks a deep carry clip but aftermarket ones for the ZT 0450 (I think...) addresses that issue for about $30 I modified a deep carry Benchmade one with the butterfly on it but the MXG or other brand for the ZT is far easier. I find the spine on the Hogue a bit more uncomfortable for my thumb when doing hard pushes through material despite the blade stock being thicker than the Bugout’s. Much more of a radius than the squarer back of the Benchmade.
I have a Dekka and love it. Haven’t been able to convince myself to get a bugout. It just doesn’t feel $130-$150 value to me. But hey, I’m a bit different.
I have a bugout that I love very much. I have handled the hogue and it is very nice and I think I will pick up one of the warncliff ones up eventually. On the hogue I handled you could touch the blade with ur finger when it was closed Fairly easily. There are things I do like more on the hogue but overall I believe the bugout is still king!! P.S. I have really gotta get one of those battlewash red bugouts* lol.
I prefer the cleaner design of the Bugout... the Deka has better steel but the blade shape and the G-10 design of the handles doesn't do it for me (too gaudy)
@@conductorcammon better materials, I like the handle on the deka better. And the Deka springs for the lock are better and stronger. My bugouts omega springs have broke. The only thing I like better about the bugout over the Deka is the blade shape.
I have had only a couple of issues with numerous Benchmade knives I’ve owned/own using their omega springs but had one break on my Bugout after very little use. Anecdotal evidence but I’ve heard numerous others having the same issue with the model. There’s replacement sets on Etsy for about $7 that seem to be better though I’ve not had them on mine for long.
Because theyre riding their own reputation wave... the bugout is already at a level of fame as the 940. It sells itself. Why not do what they do and continue to milk the occasional exclusive? People who want a bugout will buy it anyhow and just get aftermarket scales if they want them. Benchmade marketing execs are smart. No need to add costs to include new colors - customers will buy it anyhow. Rip.
Easy Deka for me. I'm sorry, I hate to be biased, but Benchmade and Spyderco prices have always biffed me. Theyre constantly charging premiums just for their brand names, and the price never seems to align with the materials. Hogue is newer to the scene and less well-known, but I'll be damned if I'm NOT going to get excited about 20cv at that price. And for a better axis lock than the company that literally invented it? SHAAAAAME! Benchmade needs to step up its game, or these are the kinds of designs and manufacturers that are going to eventually push it aside. Literally bought a Deka watching this video. Stumbled across a sale on one for $120 and absolutrly couldnt pass it up.
I understand that the Spyderco Manix 2 is a ball-bearing lock and not a crossbar, but I really don't understand why no one ever throws in a Manix 2 in any of these comparisons. Their lock is better! It's worth the comparison to show that!
The reason the Deka feels like a much more premium folder is because IT IS a premium folding knife! With the possible exception of Spyderco, the design/materials engineers at Hogue represent some of the very finest industry specialists in this market. This is yet another reason why the ‘fit, finish and action’ on Hogue knives is incomparable to most any other company. Benchmade isn’t even in the same league…not even close.
I think I would have to go with the Hogue. I have been looking at the Bugout for a while and I have been hesitant to buy one because of the Grivory handles. I don't like the flex. Sorry but that wouldn't be my Benchmade of choice.
Bugout easily!! Much, much better pocket clip than the Deka. Thumb stud on the Deka is sharp as hell. Not sure what they were thinking with that one. Bugout is also NOTICABLY thinner in the pocket, even though the widths looks so similar. Ergonomics are similar, but the CF Elite bugout handle is far better than the gen 2 Deka. The edges of the Deka scales are pretty sharp. Action out of the box was similar, but the Deka blade was screaming sharp! The Bugout was just decently sharp out of the box.
I could see Benchmade offering more premium models of the Bugout in some time. With other brand staples like the Griptilian & Crooked River being available in 20cv, M4, and S90V it's only a matter of time before a more premium-feeling Bugout drops
The Deka is clearly the better knife. The only gripes I have are: 1) they are always facing production delays and 2) there is WAY too much hardware involved in the takedown and maintenance.
I’m going back and forth on these right now. I’ve had a lot of Benchmade knives but the hogue looks better. The aftermarket support on the Bugout is huge. The deka does have aftermarket pocket clips to get it deep carry.
My Deka purchased November 2022 was accidentally put through the laundry and the spring completely rusted out.. gone. I thought these springs were stainless steel? My Benchmade 940 has been EDC for over 10 years with no spring failure or not a dust spec of rust. Seems Hogue is using shoddy springs.. Definitely a downside of axis locks if the springs aren't dependable. Hogue is sending new springs free of charge no questions asked, but I definitely didn't expect a knife at this price point to have such issues with a bit of water exposure.. Would be interesting to see a knife influencer do some tests with springs from different manufacturers.
So I have the deKa, bugout, and para 3 LW in M390. My bugouts action is super gritty. I have to use graphite to get it to work at all and that only lasts a couple days until it needs more. But when it is working nice it has the best action of the 3. The deKa is kinda mushy. Doesn’t snap out. And doesn’t drop shut without blade ply. The para 3 snaps out and drops shut with little side play and off center but is way to stiff if I get rid of the play since it only has one washer. Of the 3 I carry my Para the most, deKa second, and never carry my bugout. With that said I have handled bugouts with great actions and would probably carry it more than the deKa just because of the “snappy” action. But in all reality I don’t carry any of them hardly anymore since I got my spydiechef. It’s slim, titanium, love the blade shape, and literally won’t ever rust under normal use.
Knowing material prices, the bugout is at its cheapest still a rip off. Frn and the amount of s30v you get on the bugout should make it no more than 80$ max. Look at the competition. Kershaw and Gerber come to mind with better prices. Hogue all the way!
Me too. Too much going on, on those blades (not just the Deka). I held the Deka many times, but the blade always in the end killed the deal (and the clip).e.
@@mitchellerickson9836 Well, Flytanium is my friend... got some Ti (and CF) scales*. Anodized the scales in blue and now it is really sweet (I would test the CF-elite, but I don't want an all-black knife, so Benchmade, please bring CF-elite in other colors!). And it is not just the neutral blade shape I like, I also prefer the more neutral handle. 20CV (technically, I would prefer M390, but only if an Italian company does it.) is a great steel and I would buy another Bugout if they came out with a blade in that stuff. But it is not a deal-breaker for me. Honestly, I don't mind the steel all that much anymore, even the "crappy" steel Victorinox uses does the trick and is so easy to sharpen and is so easy to maintain. *another thing the Bugout does "better", loads of aftermarket stuff.
I prefer the Bugout by far. Hogue makes a nice knife, really like the Ritter RSK's but the Bugout is for me. There's so many rad scale options on the aftermarket, just nothing you can't do. Own five and counting.
I own a Manix 2 XL, and a few Benchmade Axis knives. I wanted to get a knife for my lefty wife, and it was between the Deka, and Bugout. Even though I own a Hogue, it’s a button lock. I kind of wish I saw this video before I chose the Bugout. Being a Benchmade, I assumed it had jimping on the blade, and it does not. This kind of pisses me off, because this is a deal breaker for me. Should have gotten the damn Deka. Blade HQ, can I send it back for a Deka?
I was really looking forward to receiving the Knifecenter exclusive hogue deka that I ordered last week(The red gmascus and satin blade version). Today I received the wrong hogue deka(the blue gmascus with a black coated blade) and in what appears to be used condition. I've spent hundreds with you Knifecenter can you please make this right?? I've filled out the website contact form and I anxiously await your reply
We’re sorry you are experiencing issues with your order. If you could call (800.338.6799) or email (support@knifecenter.com) our customer service team, we will be happy to get to the bottom of things. Thanks!
Good morning Luke! Our customer service team tried to send you a return label to take care of this, but it looks like the email bounced. They will try to send it again this morning, but if you haven't received it by this afternoon, please call in so we can get you taken care of (800.338.6799). Cheers! -DCA
As much as the Hogue has better material, its shape just isn’t my cup of tea. It’s almost reaching fugly, and that goes to show my taste in knife design. The drop point shape on the Bugout is is picture-perfect for me, and I wish more knife makers used a similar, clean and simple design for their drop points. Winner is the Bugout for me.
Yeah, if hogue would make a Deka with a little bit more "simpler" bladeshape, I would probably own one. That said, I think one point DCA missed was the 3rd party stuff you can get for the Bugout (say CF/Titanium/Micarda/G10/Aluminum scales). For me, that is a huge part of it's appeal.
I heard the Deka's blade can cut the meat of your palm when closing because the blade is the same length as the handle. If you don't understand what I'm saying check out Gideon's Tactical review.
The design of the Bugout is head and shoulders above. If you like premium materials, Bugout 535-3 or any G10 version has you covered. The Deka design is like every other me2 knife in the market.
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The Hogue clip plate is ugly. It sticks out like a sore thumb on all of their knives that I’ve seen. It’s inexcusable in my opinion. It’s not a deal breaker, but it’s a huge aesthetic flaw. I’d still give this Hogue a try. I do love my Bugout.
You can bend the knife a little and hear it cracking. I wouldn't carry one. There are too many knives out there with better build for the same price or less.
@@knifecenter I'm just going by shape , The ergo's looked bit similar . I don't have a Deka but own the mini grip and bugout Benchmade knives. I'd like to try 20cv steel ..
Now that the Deka is in Magnacut and can be had for less money than the S30V Bugout this becomes an even easier choice for me. Deka all day.
I'm a newbie to the knife EDC world. I purchased the Yellow Mini Griptilian first. It was my first Benchmade and experience with an Axis lock. I liked the Axis but found it to be "sticky". I have read and seen reviews that say you have to "break them in". Then I bought the Deka Red, White and Blue Edition. The able lock worked flawlessly out of the box. I immediately felt like a a bar lock veteran, with perfect flip open and drop shut precision. I am now anxiously waiting on the Hogue Ritter RSK MK1 I just purchased. Definitely a Hogue fan.
Deka all the way.
I've recently fell in love with the bugout mini. Was gonna get a full size one, but everybody seems to like the Deca better. Hmmm...decisions
Hogue ALL the way. And I'm a big Benchmade fan and have many of their knives. Hogue is just a step ahead of them in many ways. Thanks Allen Elishewitz.
@@conductorcammon Hogue knives are awesome. Still love Benchmade though. Just a tad overpriced and lacking in materials as of lately for the cost.
Like the bug out better!
@@conductorcammon If you like smaller knives you might want to check out the hogue ritter rsk mini . Blows my mini grip out of the water.
Better (imo) blade Steel, more rigid g10, longer lasting springs, still super light, Deka all the way for me. I have an all black one with a wharncliffe blade and I love it.
If anyone is interested, the new, revised Deka has a slightly different g10 milling that works with more pocket clips. It also has an option for a deep carry clip which is much nicer to use.
I think it's a no-brainer for most people. Deka is the same price as the bugout (about $140 as I'm writing this) despite having superior g10 handles and 20cv. More importantly, it is much more rigid. Getting a bugout with g10 + 20cv will run almost $60 more and because it doesn't have all the screws, will still not be rigid. To get an actually rigid knife requires spending another $70 on top for titanium scales. I should also mention that the titanium crossbar on steel with the bugout means the lock will always stick a little and to my knowledge, you can't get a steel replacement.
MADE IN THE U.S.A. THANK YOU DAVID FOR LETTING US KNOW WHERE THE KNIVES ARE MADE
I think if your main concern is weight (eg carrying in jogging shorts) you got to give it to the Bugout. However, for general characteristics the Deka wins. Some people don’t like how the Bugout handle can be bent... feels cheap. Many guys buy the bugout and then buy G-10 scales for another $40... if you do that you should have just gotten a Deka.
Not necessarily. I find the more neutral handle shape of the Bugout to be superior, especially given that it allows you to get quite close to the cutting edge. But I have the M390 aluminum version because I do want that increased rigidity.
can you REALLY feel 0.2oz in pocket? Your balls must be super sensitive ...
I was literally comparing these 2 knives side by side on KC last night. I’ve had my Bugout for about 2 months and it’s dominated my edc rotation.
I own a blacked out Deka, and it is by far my favorite knife right now. It feels great in the hand, and the Able Lock is incredible! Living in Texas, where it’s always shorts weather, the Deka does a great job hanging out in my shorts pocket.
Feel the same about my bugout. I'm about to order a deka just to try it, I've heard a lot of good things about it
I will say the bugout appears to have the superior blade geometry, but the deka is just so damn attractive with its milled scales
I love my Hogue Deka, it feels amazing in hand, to use, and I think it looks better too. Also not knocking Benchmade though. Love the competition.
Excellent job. What a great comparison video of two exceptional knives!! Thank you!
I must watch every one of your upcoming videos and I can learn a lot from it. Keep making videos like this.
The hogue Deka, definitely. Like the warncliffe design better also.
Me as well man.
The hogue seems like a better deal. Plus hogue is a far more respectable company than benchmade. I've been saying the LW para 3 kicks the bugouts ass for a while and the deka is on the same boat
Why do you say "Hogue is a far more respectable company"?
Stephen Barabas Because they destroyed some firearms a few years ago. That’s everyone’s go to burn. Other than that, possibly the butterfly 🦋 tax.
damn thats a tuff call. I definately prefer the overall design of the bugout with the straighter handle but Hogue makes a strong argument here with the g10/ blade steel etc. hmmm If Hogue would fix that handle and make it where i can get a full 4 finger grip I'd be all over it.
David C. “Handerson” throwing the comment section a curveball at 8:10 with “My hands sit just slightly on the large side...”
:P -DCA
Deka hands down
I now own both and am going to keep the Deka and sell the bugout. However I am keeping my mini bugout as well!
The deka does look a bit more premium to me.
I've been running a Bugout in M390 and I just switched to the Deka. The Deka is just all around better put together imo.
Hello D.C.A., I'd choose both the drkst. Hogue👍 and the blk.out Benchmade👍, btw good job describing the differences, for sure👍👍!! Keep up the good work and keep these vids coming! Have fun and be safe, take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 👍👍🙏😇👊
I own five Bugouts and two Dekas. Honestly, for me, it's a toss-up. The Deka is more stylish while the Bugout is probably a better all-around knife. I love them both. The Bugout is definitely more popular, but it has been around much longer.
I saw the hogue deka and it just looks so good I was gonna go with a bugout with s90v or the Osborn/940 both benchmade but I think I’m gonna buy the deka
Love both companies and knives although I think the Bugout is WAY overhyped. That being said the Hogue Deka is a much better knife and the ABLE lock fixes some issues with the Axis lock. Hogue is always a step or two ahead of Benchmade and slightly more reasonably priced as well. I just don't like the scales on the Deka, just not doing it for me. If was Carbon Fiber or even solid colored G10 I'd like it much more. Thanks again Mr David C Anderson.
You can get a flat black handle version
@DieselDabz710 The "overhyped" has it's perks... like lots of aftermarket stuff to modify your Bugout. Yes, that does drive the price up, but as it is optional it is not an issue. Personally, I like my CF Bugout and my Blue Titanium Bugout
It costs $78 to build a Deka and less than $40 to build a bench made Bugout. Way, way overpriced…
Broke the omega spring on my bugout, while waiting for the repair from benchmade I purchased a deka. I haven’t received the house yet but I can’t wait to compare
Which one do you prefer?
For the money & as delivered, the Deka seems to be the better buy with better steel, excellent factory edge, and handles that don’t flex. On the Bugout’s stock FRN you can literally squeeze them hard enough for one side to touch the other when open. To me they do feel cheap. I replaced mine with Rogue micarta scales - about $90
The Deka lacks a deep carry clip but aftermarket ones for the ZT 0450 (I think...) addresses that issue for about $30
I modified a deep carry Benchmade one with the butterfly on it but the MXG or other brand for the ZT is far easier.
I find the spine on the Hogue a bit more uncomfortable for my thumb when doing hard pushes through material despite the blade stock being thicker than the Bugout’s. Much more of a radius than the squarer back of the Benchmade.
I have a Dekka and love it. Haven’t been able to convince myself to get a bugout. It just doesn’t feel $130-$150 value to me. But hey, I’m a bit different.
Easy, Deka!
Will the lock bar from a Bugout fit a Deka? The texture on the Deka is unforgiving!!!
I have a bugout that I love very much. I have handled the hogue and it is very nice and I think I will pick up one of the warncliff ones up eventually. On the hogue I handled you could touch the blade with ur finger when it was closed Fairly easily. There are things I do like more on the hogue but overall I believe the bugout is still king!! P.S. I have really gotta get one of those battlewash red bugouts* lol.
I've got a couple of Benchmades including a blue class model. Thinking about a Hogue micro flip. Looks like all there knives are good quality.
I prefer the cleaner design of the Bugout... the Deka has better steel but the blade shape and the G-10 design of the handles doesn't do it for me (too gaudy)
I own the bugout but would much rather the Deka.
Why do u say that?
@@conductorcammon better materials, I like the handle on the deka better. And the Deka springs for the lock are better and stronger. My bugouts omega springs have broke. The only thing I like better about the bugout over the Deka is the blade shape.
@@conductorcammon Cause its a better knife probably
Now that the deka comes in magnacut with a deep carry pocket clip, are we still comparing them?
I have had only a couple of issues with numerous Benchmade knives I’ve owned/own using their omega springs but had one break on my Bugout after very little use. Anecdotal evidence but I’ve heard numerous others having the same issue with the model. There’s replacement sets on Etsy for about $7 that seem to be better though I’ve not had them on mine for long.
I don't understand why Benchmade isn't releasing Bugouts in every color of the rainbow.
Because they can call them exclusives and charge more $$$
Just wait... they will.
Because theyre riding their own reputation wave... the bugout is already at a level of fame as the 940. It sells itself.
Why not do what they do and continue to milk the occasional exclusive? People who want a bugout will buy it anyhow and just get aftermarket scales if they want them.
Benchmade marketing execs are smart. No need to add costs to include new colors - customers will buy it anyhow.
Rip.
@@thepracticalblade9013 I guess they are going to milk the colors through the custom shop which has a wide variety of colors now.
Easy Deka for me.
I'm sorry, I hate to be biased, but Benchmade and Spyderco prices have always biffed me. Theyre constantly charging premiums just for their brand names, and the price never seems to align with the materials.
Hogue is newer to the scene and less well-known, but I'll be damned if I'm NOT going to get excited about 20cv at that price. And for a better axis lock than the company that literally invented it?
SHAAAAAME! Benchmade needs to step up its game, or these are the kinds of designs and manufacturers that are going to eventually push it aside.
Literally bought a Deka watching this video. Stumbled across a sale on one for $120 and absolutrly couldnt pass it up.
Where was it on sale?
Get the Deka rev2 20CV. Great knife, I've had the wharnie for 3 months.
I understand that the Spyderco Manix 2 is a ball-bearing lock and not a crossbar, but I really don't understand why no one ever throws in a Manix 2 in any of these comparisons. Their lock is better! It's worth the comparison to show that!
I got the Deka in Magnacut, Wharnie master race baby
The reason the Deka feels like a much more premium folder is because IT IS a premium folding knife! With the possible exception of Spyderco, the design/materials engineers at Hogue represent some of the very finest industry specialists in this market. This is yet another reason why the ‘fit, finish and action’ on Hogue knives is incomparable to most any other company. Benchmade isn’t even in the same league…not even close.
Thanks for the videos I got burned by bladehq’s free shipping and will be ordering from you guys now
Love the bugout after i put flytanium g10 scales on it
I'm pretty sure both are necessary
The Deka needs a few more screws on the handle.
Isn't being more secure a good thing tho ?
Get the gen 1
I think I would have to go with the Hogue. I have been looking at the Bugout for a while and I have been hesitant to buy one because of the Grivory handles. I don't like the flex. Sorry but that wouldn't be my Benchmade of choice.
Nope the 940 series all the way.
Bench made bug out remind me of the KaBar Dozier
Bugout easily!! Much, much better pocket clip than the Deka. Thumb stud on the Deka is sharp as hell. Not sure what they were thinking with that one. Bugout is also NOTICABLY thinner in the pocket, even though the widths looks so similar. Ergonomics are similar, but the CF Elite bugout handle is far better than the gen 2 Deka. The edges of the Deka scales are pretty sharp. Action out of the box was similar, but the Deka blade was screaming sharp! The Bugout was just decently sharp out of the box.
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I could see Benchmade offering more premium models of the Bugout in some time. With other brand staples like the Griptilian & Crooked River being available in 20cv, M4, and S90V it's only a matter of time before a more premium-feeling Bugout drops
Probably, but they will definitely be more expensive than the Deka
The Deka is clearly the better knife. The only gripes I have are: 1) they are always facing production delays and 2) there is WAY too much hardware involved in the takedown and maintenance.
The Hogue looks dope
RIP Battlewash Bugout.
So sad I missed it.
I’m going back and forth on these right now. I’ve had a lot of Benchmade knives but the hogue looks better. The aftermarket support on the Bugout is huge. The deka does have aftermarket pocket clips to get it deep carry.
My Deka purchased November 2022 was accidentally put through the laundry and the spring completely rusted out.. gone. I thought these springs were stainless steel? My Benchmade 940 has been EDC for over 10 years with no spring failure or not a dust spec of rust. Seems Hogue is using shoddy springs.. Definitely a downside of axis locks if the springs aren't dependable. Hogue is sending new springs free of charge no questions asked, but I definitely didn't expect a knife at this price point to have such issues with a bit of water exposure.. Would be interesting to see a knife influencer do some tests with springs from different manufacturers.
You give great reviews!
Non benchmade benchmades are always superior
David: "The Deka has a little bit extra when you put it in your hands."
Me: "that's what she said!"
The Deka isca better made knife with better materials, but because the bigfoot is the better design, id choose it.
Thx, good
Deka over a loose BM all day.
I miss the black blade battlewash bugout (BBBB)
Blade geometry is a much better cutterfor the bugout.
So I have the deKa, bugout, and para 3 LW in M390. My bugouts action is super gritty. I have to use graphite to get it to work at all and that only lasts a couple days until it needs more. But when it is working nice it has the best action of the 3. The deKa is kinda mushy. Doesn’t snap out. And doesn’t drop shut without blade ply. The para 3 snaps out and drops shut with little side play and off center but is way to stiff if I get rid of the play since it only has one washer. Of the 3 I carry my Para the most, deKa second, and never carry my bugout. With that said I have handled bugouts with great actions and would probably carry it more than the deKa just because of the “snappy” action. But in all reality I don’t carry any of them hardly anymore since I got my spydiechef. It’s slim, titanium, love the blade shape, and literally won’t ever rust under normal use.
Yeah I got a mini bugout, and the action was like GRAVEL!!! took me weeks to smooth it out
I have a mini bugout which has been awesome, but I love a good wharnie, and 20cv sealed the deal for me.
Knowing material prices, the bugout is at its cheapest still a rip off. Frn and the amount of s30v you get on the bugout should make it no more than 80$ max. Look at the competition. Kershaw and Gerber come to mind with better prices. Hogue all the way!
The ONLY thing that bugs me about the Deka is the blade shape. I just can't bring myself to like it. Still want one though lol
Me too. Too much going on, on those blades (not just the Deka). I held the Deka many times, but the blade always in the end killed the deal (and the clip).e.
@@etherealicer well at least I'm not the only one lol love the bugout blade shape. I'd take the bugout blade in 20cv with the Deka's scales any day
@@mitchellerickson9836 Well, Flytanium is my friend... got some Ti (and CF) scales*. Anodized the scales in blue and now it is really sweet (I would test the CF-elite, but I don't want an all-black knife, so Benchmade, please bring CF-elite in other colors!). And it is not just the neutral blade shape I like, I also prefer the more neutral handle. 20CV (technically, I would prefer M390, but only if an Italian company does it.) is a great steel and I would buy another Bugout if they came out with a blade in that stuff. But it is not a deal-breaker for me. Honestly, I don't mind the steel all that much anymore, even the "crappy" steel Victorinox uses does the trick and is so easy to sharpen and is so easy to maintain.
*another thing the Bugout does "better", loads of aftermarket stuff.
I prefer the Bugout by far. Hogue makes a nice knife, really like the Ritter RSK's but the Bugout is for me. There's so many rad scale options on the aftermarket, just nothing you can't do. Own five and counting.
M4 Bailout
I own a Manix 2 XL, and a few Benchmade Axis knives.
I wanted to get a knife for my lefty wife, and it was between the Deka, and Bugout. Even though I own a Hogue, it’s a button lock.
I kind of wish I saw this video before I chose the Bugout. Being a Benchmade, I assumed it had jimping on the blade, and it does not. This kind of pisses me off, because this is a deal breaker for me.
Should have gotten the damn Deka. Blade HQ, can I send it back for a Deka?
Hogue deka all the way.
I was really looking forward to receiving the Knifecenter exclusive hogue deka that I ordered last week(The red gmascus and satin blade version). Today I received the wrong hogue deka(the blue gmascus with a black coated blade) and in what appears to be used condition. I've spent hundreds with you Knifecenter can you please make this right?? I've filled out the website contact form and I anxiously await your reply
We’re sorry you are experiencing issues with your order. If you could call (800.338.6799) or email (support@knifecenter.com) our customer service team, we will be happy to get to the bottom of things. Thanks!
Good morning Luke! Our customer service team tried to send you a return label to take care of this, but it looks like the email bounced. They will try to send it again this morning, but if you haven't received it by this afternoon, please call in so we can get you taken care of (800.338.6799). Cheers! -DCA
As much as the Hogue has better material, its shape just isn’t my cup of tea. It’s almost reaching fugly, and that goes to show my taste in knife design. The drop point shape on the Bugout is is picture-perfect for me, and I wish more knife makers used a similar, clean and simple design for their drop points. Winner is the Bugout for me.
Deka
Does the Deka have a partial length metal liner or a full length one? Or none?
Partial. -DCA
Bugout is over priced for what it is. The Axis lock can be sticky. It's the weight and blade shape that makes people gravitate to it.
Yeah, if hogue would make a Deka with a little bit more "simpler" bladeshape, I would probably own one. That said, I think one point DCA missed was the 3rd party stuff you can get for the Bugout (say CF/Titanium/Micarda/G10/Aluminum scales). For me, that is a huge part of it's appeal.
Bought my deka today no anti-gun funded knife for me.
Think the bugouts more expensive now in 2023.
I heard the Deka's blade can cut the meat of your palm when closing because the blade is the same length as the handle. If you don't understand what I'm saying check out Gideon's Tactical review.
How have I not subscribed this this channel yet 🤔 #fixed
Bug out 👍
The design of the Bugout is head and shoulders above. If you like premium materials, Bugout 535-3 or any G10 version has you covered. The Deka design is like every other me2 knife in the market.
Idk why they call the Benchmade ranger green. It looks coyote to me.
Can you just review everything ever please?
Working on it lol ;) -DCA
Benchmade will always be superior in my mind but I would like to handle a deka just to see what people like so much about it
Hogue’s tolerances are less than a single hair. Benchmade can’t make an even grind if they tried.
I want the price and materials of Hogue with the range of aftermarket parts offered for Benchmade. Yeah I'm a difficult customer :)
You can look up that information
I ordered something from you guys almost a month ago & it never arrived. It was my first time ordering from you & it will be my the last.
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Meanwhile in 2023 a deka is 150€ where I live and a bugout 200€🙈
Hogue wins every time with every knife against benchmade. Sorry benchmade.
Deka all day long…
Bugout CF-ELITE....🔪
Bugout is bland as hell. Deka has some style to it.
The Hogue clip plate is ugly. It sticks out like a sore thumb on all of their knives that I’ve seen. It’s inexcusable in my opinion. It’s not a deal breaker, but it’s a huge aesthetic flaw. I’d still give this Hogue a try. I do love my Bugout.
The Deka I’m sure is a well made knife, but both blades are unattractive and I don’t think I could live with either. 🎸🔪
The "bugout" is massively overpriced!
Butterfly tax adds $50 to every one of their knives
You can bend the knife a little and hear it cracking. I wouldn't carry one. There are too many knives out there with better build for the same price or less.
The Deka allways seemed more like the griptilian to me .
It would sit in between the two sizes of Griptilian, not really one or the other.
@@knifecenter I'm just going by shape , The ergo's looked bit similar . I don't have a Deka but own the mini grip and bugout Benchmade knives. I'd like to try 20cv steel ..
Bugout handle sucks. Too thin and has a couple hot spots for hard/prolonged use.
Spell check sucks sometimes