I was watching the first couple of cuts, and thought, "Those are pretty serious cracks..." That's when my dumba$$ realized there were edging blades I hadn't noticed yet.
Great video in showing the difference between a healthy tree no splitting and the second longer tree . The first one was clear furniture grade and the second isn’t but they sell it as furniture grade-!, ask me how I know. As a hobbyist woodworker I work with red oak. I like it when I varnish it with my own custom mix varnish stain colors. I’ve looked at a lot of red oak and other hardwoods over the years and by watching videos like this on how and why a tree is cut. The second tree-log because of the split at its base allowed in outside factors to discolor the oak. You can plainly see it in the wood grain. I’m working on a project right now that I’m dealing with that issue that I really didn’t spot and understand it when I purchased it at Home Depot. On the bright side when I varnish it the discoloration combined with my tinted varnish will really make the wood grain pop, that’s what I’m hoping for. And for the other comments about wasted wood turned into sawdust. We pay for that loss factor at the store. It’s all figured in , in the price per board foot.
Great sawing on the beams. In the late 1960's, I and two other logging contractors, hauled many loads of 18 & 20' SYP logs....untill the mill said, "we have enough to fill our big order, you can cut some of those into 14s & 16s"! (Many trees had 60' of logs and I left 12-14' tops that had #2 & #3 2 X 4s & 2 X 6s laying on the forest floor). This was a USFS timber sell, the nicest/largest trees I've ever seen in Arkansas. Many trees were 26-30"dbh, a few larger and several smaller, but all above the extreme average in height....and this was before clear cutting was being practiced (but being considered). Most of those long boards were #1 dense grain with some being C grade. The mill made a fortune on that 600,000 bdft order of long boards but of course they also sold several truck loads of various sized shorter boards. The 18 & 20' architectural grade structurual lumber was used in a huge open beam/exposed wood complex!
Australian Red Cedar is $15,000 per square foot now. Yep, $15k. Prison time Illegal to harvest anymore in Aus because of overharvesting. Was called red? gold when the boom was on, and it was waay less than $15k per sq foot when they started. Good slices, nice work!. I have some black birds eye maple that a violin maker wants sliced up to make violins. Waiting on a fine tooth band blade. I gotta get on that order. "Grab the iron while it's hot??",, umm, I think that saying is wrong.
It's amazing how much a log can move when the tension is released, even when ripping the boards into stock I have seen it pinch a table saw blade so hard that it stopped the saw. Great looking oak is this nautcheral growth oak or commercially grown?
The only way lumber should be sawn, maybe a 6 or 8 inch band would saw straight as a rotary blade. I have lost more money having portable ban mills sawing hardwood lumber than rotary mills.
I would say close to 12,000’. I’ve been on track for more than that, but something usually happens. And good circumstances are the benefiting factor when it comes to production! 14’ big Poplar logs are the best circumstances
Great video! I enjoy watching how you dissect a log for making useful lumber in homes and buildings. May I ask what is your upper limit of log size you have for your sawmill? Can it saw a 6' log? Or are the largest logs only milled be bandsaw mills?
I also upgraded my phone from a 7 to a 12😅. Now I’ll just use the go pro to either wear for when I go logging,…. Eventually, or mount directly in sketchy places or on equipment
What are you looking at to tell if the cant is warping? I run a portable bandsaw mill for years and I could see the cant lift off of the bunks when I was sawing,I would then rotate 180 to relieve stress on other side
I can see it too. I use the saw as reference. When I run the log back, I can feel it every single time by the rub and where the saw doesn’t touch, all along the log
Awesome, at first I DID'NT see the horizontal saw blades, maybe camera angle, and thought that wood is splitting bad😂 as you said tension release.. Cool you have laser lines and a top blade for bigger diameter stock. Noticed when you got the log to a perfect 8x8 or so square, , thought you would need more support for the cut board on the bottom of it as it grew, ( cut into a board ) the longer the board becomes a board the heavier it became until it was cut and separated from log, then it falls off onto conveyor. . Just wondering. But anyway! , awesome setup. How much a mill like this cost $?. Be nice to see more down stream production of lumber. Good video!!.
I was a lumber inspector for years and you are losing at least five board feet a log with that vertical edger .Your sawyer should learn a little more about sawing for grade.
The name of the video is 20ft Red Oak 8x8’s. The grade is a bye product of our beams. Of course you’re going to lose footage with a vertical edger on a 20’ log. And guess what…. We accommodate
We are filling orders for other items, not only "grade". Trailer decking, beams, posts, crossties, and cants- sides are utilized for mulch material-minimal scap or firewood. Our sawyer is exceptionally skilled. He utilizes the entire log even when it's long for other orders and accomplishes "grade" at the same time. Correct it is our money. Our process makes the most money. Thank you kindly for your input. It would be nice to hear a few tips on lumber grading from your perspective.
what the hell are your thinking.... you can't make stuff in america. seriously though good on ya for being a real american and doing instead of crying.
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I was watching the first couple of cuts, and thought, "Those are pretty serious cracks..." That's when my dumba$$ realized there were edging blades I hadn't noticed yet.
Those cracks landed in pretty good spots😂😂
thanks for the explanation at the beginning of the video. Nice to know why you are shaving off wood before cutting the 8x8
Great video in showing the difference between a healthy tree no splitting and the second longer tree . The first one was clear furniture grade and the second isn’t but they sell it as furniture grade-!, ask me how I know. As a hobbyist woodworker I work with red oak. I like it when I varnish it with my own custom mix varnish stain colors. I’ve looked at a lot of red oak and other hardwoods over the years and by watching videos like this on how and why a tree is cut. The second tree-log because of the split at its base allowed in outside factors to discolor the oak. You can plainly see it in the wood grain. I’m working on a project right now that I’m dealing with that issue that I really didn’t spot and understand it when I purchased it at Home Depot. On the bright side when I varnish it the discoloration combined with my tinted varnish will really make the wood grain pop, that’s what I’m hoping for. And for the other comments about wasted wood turned into sawdust. We pay for that loss factor at the store. It’s all figured in , in the price per board foot.
Those 20’s are like sitting at a crossing and watching a train pass by, it just keeps coming! Very enjoyable video!
I can go longer:)
Another great video, Keep them coming.
Just to see red oak that size and straight is impressive in itself.
So I prefer the smaller ones for beams like this😅 it leaves a minimal amount of side lumber to cut off
Great sawing on the beams.
In the late 1960's, I and two other logging contractors, hauled many loads of 18 & 20' SYP logs....untill the mill said, "we have enough to fill our big order, you can cut some of those into 14s & 16s"! (Many trees had 60' of logs and I left 12-14' tops that had #2 & #3 2 X 4s & 2 X 6s laying on the forest floor). This was a USFS timber sell, the nicest/largest trees I've ever seen in Arkansas. Many trees were 26-30"dbh, a few larger and several smaller, but all above the extreme average in height....and this was before clear cutting was being practiced (but being considered). Most of those long boards were #1 dense grain with some being C grade.
The mill made a fortune on that 600,000 bdft order of long boards but of course they also sold several truck loads of various sized shorter boards.
The 18 & 20' architectural grade structurual lumber was used in a huge open beam/exposed wood complex!
That’s smooth machine and operator!
Good stuff.
Nice bit of sawmanship. Going at a steady pace always makes things go easier with the minimum amount of distortion and tension.
3:00 - Great video
Nice clean shop. Good video.
Man that is some long lumber! Good job, I enjoyed watching the vid!
You have that head saw running beautifully. The tickle on the way back is perfect.
I own and run a personal bandsaw. Watching this feels like I'm riding a bicycle and watching a semi
Cool and accurate sawing there,. great video
Thank you sir
Ohhhhh I love this , he'll of a job my friend, keep doing what you doing my friend this stuff is gold , thank you
I wish I would’ve started sooner. It’s only small snippet😅
iPad battery is almost dead browsing around and bam how a saw mill cuts red oak just pops up and I have no idea why but I watched it nice work men
Great sawing video thanks
Those blades on the side are a touch of genius.
the first log sure was nice, then you cut the 8x8 in half, I was like wait!? had to read the title a couple more times.
Keyboard Warriors always gonna say they can do it better, they'd be the ones that would lose a hand working with that saw.
First time to your channel, that’s was fantastic. 👊
Check out some more!!
Having spent many years milling red oak, I swear I can smell this video.
😂😂
I always imagine how an ancient Egyptian woodworker would react to seeing something like this.
Idk the Great Pyramids are pretty impressive
@@Helmsburgsawmill No doubt on that.
pretty straight and clean for that species length, thanks for the video.
Tbh bud, for this area, that’s a small scabby one😅
Australian Red Cedar is $15,000 per square foot now. Yep, $15k. Prison time Illegal to harvest anymore in Aus because of overharvesting. Was called red? gold when the boom was on, and it was waay less than $15k per sq foot when they started. Good slices, nice work!. I have some black birds eye maple that a violin maker wants sliced up to make violins. Waiting on a fine tooth band blade. I gotta get on that order. "Grab the iron while it's hot??",, umm, I think that saying is wrong.
It's amazing how much a log can move when the tension is released, even when ripping the boards into stock I have seen it pinch a table saw blade so hard that it stopped the saw.
Great looking oak is this nautcheral growth oak or commercially grown?
The only good timber buddy is naturally grown! You can’t fabricate mother natures perfect living conditions:)
The only way lumber should be sawn, maybe a 6 or 8 inch band would saw straight as a rotary blade. I have lost more money having portable ban mills sawing hardwood lumber than rotary mills.
@Richard-zz7gm, Don't forget the nails that can be particularly bad for band blades.
I'm always surprised at how many can be hiding in larger trees.
Beautiful lumber. I absolutely love watching you that is one nice sawmill what’s the most board foot you have sawn in one day
I would say close to 12,000’. I’ve been on track for more than that, but something usually happens. And good circumstances are the benefiting factor when it comes to production! 14’ big Poplar logs are the best circumstances
Great video! I enjoy watching how you dissect a log for making useful lumber in homes and buildings. May I ask what is your upper limit of log size you have for your sawmill? Can it saw a 6' log? Or are the largest logs only milled be bandsaw mills?
I can go up to 48” in diameter and up to 28’ long. However that’s just theoretical
That saw mill is a beast
Best smellin' place on the planet! 😁❤
Ton better camera angle!! Love it
I also upgraded my phone from a 7 to a 12😅. Now I’ll just use the go pro to either wear for when I go logging,…. Eventually, or mount directly in sketchy places or on equipment
It must smell amazing in there.
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i could ask you a million questions but the first one is.. what's the weirdest thing you've ever found inside a tree?
What are you looking at to tell if the cant is warping? I run a portable bandsaw mill for years and I could see the cant lift off of the bunks when I was sawing,I would then rotate 180 to relieve stress on other side
I can see it too. I use the saw as reference. When I run the log back, I can feel it every single time by the rub and where the saw doesn’t touch, all along the log
If it is rubbing in the middle on the way back, and doesn’t touch on the ends, I know it bowed inward
I can usually see it as it passes the board splitter. There’s either a increased gap there or it’s squeezing the splitter
I want those boards.
Know one can.....? NO one can.....!
I was watching some political BS when 👀 saw this. Hell I can watch this all day awesome
😂😂😂
Awesome, at first I DID'NT see the horizontal saw blades, maybe camera angle, and thought that wood is splitting bad😂 as you said tension release.. Cool you have laser lines and a top blade for bigger diameter stock. Noticed when you got the log to a perfect 8x8 or so square, , thought you would need more support for the cut board on the bottom of it as it grew, ( cut into a board ) the longer the board becomes a board the heavier it became until it was cut and separated from log, then it falls off onto conveyor. . Just wondering. But anyway! , awesome setup. How much a mill like this cost $?. Be nice to see more down stream production of lumber. Good video!!.
the horizontal cut being made, are those relief cuts?
Is the green light there so you can see the edger saws laser lines better?
Hi, I have a quick question: I wanted to know how many logs of wood do you process per day?
Honestly that just depends on what we’re sawing. If it was nothing but 20’ 8x8’s I’d say 40. If I’m in nice straight grade logs, 100
@@Helmsburgsawmill Okay thank you very much for your response.
Do you kiln dry or ship out green and somebody else dries it?
With the grade lumber, we ship out green and somebody else dries it
I was a lumber inspector for years and you are losing at least five board feet a log with that vertical edger .Your sawyer should learn a little more about sawing for grade.
The name of the video is 20ft Red Oak 8x8’s. The grade is a bye product of our beams. Of course you’re going to lose footage with a vertical edger on a 20’ log. And guess what…. We accommodate
@@Helmsburgsawmill It's your money and everyone needs some firewood.
We are filling orders for other items, not only "grade". Trailer decking, beams, posts, crossties, and cants- sides are utilized for mulch material-minimal scap or firewood. Our sawyer is exceptionally skilled. He utilizes the entire log even when it's long for other orders and accomplishes "grade" at the same time. Correct it is our money. Our process makes the most money. Thank you kindly for your input. It would be nice to hear a few tips on lumber grading from your perspective.
I was told if you see a problem bring a solution otherwise you're just adding to the problem!
@@armoredsaint6639 I gave you a solution and you edited your comment to delete mine that is funny and pathetic.
what the hell are your thinking.... you can't make stuff in america. seriously though good on ya for being a real american and doing instead of crying.
I appreciate it😂 Living the dream of a lot of American men