Oh no, what do I pin as a comment when there isn't a sponsor in the video? Uhhh, here's the link to the video on the first film: ua-cam.com/video/IIVC0NFDEq8/v-deo.html
Is it a perfect metaphor? No, but my 10yo daughter with clinical anxiety and level 1 (minimal intervention) autism reached for my hand while tears flowed down her cheeks, and we cried together. It is a beautiful, simple depiction of what anxiety feels like, especially to a child who is in the midst of figuring out who she is.
🧡🧡🧡 This 43yo AuDHDer had a total (mostly silent) meltdown (much like a panic attack) during that scene. ….But, although it felt just like all the [negative] ones I’ve ever had -all over clenched and sweating body, sobbing, unable to catch my breath- it also felt … REALLY good afterwards. It was sort of, freeing, as it was not one fraught with the typical feelings of a lack of safety or awareness, but one of blissfully overwhelming validation … if that makes sense.
I dont think the message of the movie is "be true to yourself", i think its more like "your sense of self is going to be complex and self acceptance will help make the best of moving through the world". Key words, complex and self acceptance. It builds on the message of the first Inside Out where they crack the facade that only relying on Joy as the backbone and primary emotion doesnt always lead to the best outcomes for Riley. In Inside Out 2, even though Joy has integrated with Sadness, everyone still leans on Joy as the leader at the start of the movie. I LOVED the scene where Joy talks about the pressure of always being the leader, and essentially revisiting that conversation about toxic positivity.
Yeah, I agree really. "Be true to yourself" is a stock phrase but it doesn't really mean anything. This film does start with that basic trope but it actually explores the depth beyond it
I'm sorry but how did anyone get "be true to yourself" from this movie. When they tried putting the old Riley back it didn't work, they needed to scrap it for a new Riley to make herself
Obviously some people won’t get it but as someone with an anxiety disorder i really liked the joke they made where joy says when they get back to the headquarters they should tell anxiety to relax, and how she probably didn’t think of that one yet, to which the other emotions react by agreeing and thinking its a genius idea. It’s ironic how many people genuinely think saying that to someone struggling with anxiety will somehow “cure” them, even if they don’t know any better
I loved when Joy said that they'll go back to HQ and tell Anxiety to relax and Anxiety will go "I never thought of that before!!" It felt like such a backhanded statement that was a direct response to people who tell those that undergo a panic attack to "chill"
yeeeah so true!!!!! It simply doesn’t work like this cause if it did we wouldn't feel it all the time, isn't it obvious?!? It is really hard to explain my parents that it's useless to say the phrases such as “ common everything is okay” “you have a house and family, there is nothing to worry about” etc. We don’t choose to feel anxiety, it makes it so we would feel it
“Chucking all the bad stuff away, trying to focus only on the good experiences means that all the bad memories are floating around unprocessed and not acknowledge but still there. And because they are suppressed and avoided it makes them doubly scary and doubly impactful. They feel like a threat to your sense of self- I am a good person but only if I hold everything else at bay, and knowing I’m holding it at bay makes me feel like I’m not a good person at all.” Holy shit you have no idea how hard that hit me.
@@mylittlethoughttree it helped me realize a big contributor to my anxiety is my avoidance coping mechanism. And my therapy session is tomorrow so I’m gonna try to break it down there and hopefully progress in my healing
As someone who suffers from anxiety and depression, I spent a good chunk of this movie crying uncontrollably during Joy's breakdowns and the panic attack scene. It was like looking into a mirror of my own experiences.
Is it wrong to say it’s nice to know it wasn’t just me that was crying in controllably doing the first time they watched this movie? Many of the movies scenes mirrored my own experiences too, although I think different ones than mirrored for you.
To me, the moral of the movie is every emotion has a function but not every emotion is helpful to lean into at every moment. They also did a good job of showing why it’s not helpful to just suppress unpleasant memories. That was an interesting nuance that I enjoyed
Coming from someone who's a child therapist as well: I think you nailed it with the idea of anxiety appearing because of the repressed memories. That was exactly my thought when she first appeared and I was a little surprised they didn't explain in the movie that was the reason she did. Overal I think these movies are a blessing for us therapists because they offer such a good simplified visualization of such complex subjects. I've learned that these help immensely in making children and parents understand themselves and their actions. The key is not to explain things perfectly or as thorough as you can, but to explain it in a way that people grasp the basic concept and can work with it. These movies do that exceptionally.
I’ll say as someone who’s always struggled to feel happy, Joy’s breakdown in this film didn’t hit me super hard. But I completely agree the moment in this movie that shocked me with its accuracy was that first “I’m not good enough” because, man, I think everyone has heard that voice before, and the desperation and dread in the voice actress delivering it was very well done. I also greatly appreciated that rather than anxiety being contained or otherwise punished. That single tear when she’s frozen at the controls, eyes completely locked until Joy calls her attention again, that’s so, so real, even if on the surface you don’t express it that way.
I’m struggling through severe anxiety right now. Every other thought I have is a scary one. You telling me that it’s okay to not be able to handle it made me cry with relief.
Ahh well I'm glad the video has been positive, then. Thank you for saying so! I think sometimes with all the amount people talk about "coping" with anxiety or "managing" it, it becomes far too easy to end up feeling like you're failing or doing some kind of bad job, whenever anxiety feels too much, which I don't think is true, really. Wishing you the best
I just realized, and this makes me love the inside out movies even more! The first movie that was about sadness made you sad and happy just like they did to Riley. In inside out two, which is a movie about anxiety is a tense movie! We are made to feel what Riley feels! 😭
As someone who’s experienced both unhelpful phrasings, Joy memeing about telling Anxiety to “just stop worrying so much” and then the actual solution being Joy telling Anxiety to “let go” was both infuriating and hilarious that that was the actual solution.
I would counter that by saying "let go" wasn't the solution. Letting all of the different thoughts and beliefs fluctuate in the sense of self, then hugging it; was the solution. Let go, was more the solution for anxiety's character in itself but yes, you're not exactly wrong and the film could be a lot clearer in its meaning
I’d say that to let go was the first step in solving the panic attack. And the second step is what you described of coming to acceptance and self-love and just accepting who you are and it is what it is. I know for me when I’m in the grip of some overwhelming experience, my first step is definitely to let go and remember I can’t be in control of my emotions or whatever is going on me around me. Then I can process what’s actually happened and do what is needed to get to a place of self-love.
I love inside out 2 more than the first movie. It made me more connected to my anxiety. I have GAD I used to do all the things you say make anxiety worse. I would try to suppress her and try to be happy. When she was trying to tell me something. I wouldn’t listen because it scared me to think about what she said. Then I saw a ted talk about how anxiety is an emotion like happiness and it won’t last forever, and to let her steer the boat for a little. ( his words ) From then on I basically comforted my own anxiety instead of ignoring her, and whenever I got super anxious I would just imagine me talking to my anxiety like I was talking to a scared child. Then inside out 2 comes along and it just solidified everything all of my beliefs and made it easier for me to appreciate my anxiety. I related so unbelievably hard to the movie! Ps, I personified my anxiety before inside out 2 came out. His name is Bruno like Bruno from Encanto because “we don’t talk about Bruno” and I didn’t talk about my anxiety. Get it? I thought that was funny and clever. He is lavender and he is a sheep child in pj’s holding a stuffed animal because stuffed animals help me feel better when I’m scared. He is a sheep because it’s a stereotype that sheep’s are meek scared little creatures, and they always hide in a heard which to me symbolizes the fear of being alone and the struggle to “fit in”
I love anxiety so much but I also don’t want to replace Bruno so they are both in my brain and they are both my anxiety. The thing is Bruno is the type of anxiety that you get for seemingly no reason and anxiety from inside out two is the type of anxiety that has a reason for it being there, like the fear of bad people.
@@verakace I’m glad it’s helpful advise. I hope it does help you. And if by any chance it doesn’t I hope you find coping mechanisms that will help you really well. Imagining talking to your anxiety like their somebody else hits different. At least to me. I think it’s because it feels like someone else telling me everything is going to be ok. When I tell myself everything is going to be ok it doesn’t feel as good.
@@lilhedgehog8576 I think Bruno is the anxiety that you get one for no good reason you know or sense that family are very close. Friends are rejecting you and or your emotions.
I think it’s a pretty good representation of cognitive dissonance in the scene on the ice when she has to pick teams. Does a good job of showing the discomfort that comes with dissonance. I also think the parallels between sadness and embarrassment and fear and anxiety were cool
I was SO annoyed with Anxiety taking control over all of Riley's actions, until the panic attack scene where Joy realized Anxiety is OUT of control. They did such a good way of portraying it tbh. Sometimes it's like that, you just gotta be easy on yourself and not let anxiety rule the mind even though it's gonna stick around. Sometimes it's easier, sometimes it's harder.
I feel like it does crumble the core of how emotions exist though. If Joy causes Anxiety to exist, it means that she can be prevented. Anxiety exists regardless of how healthy we are mentally because it *is* a necessary emotion.
@@uploader109good point, maybe the most ideal framing is that Joy’s work between the two movies created a framework that was well set-up for anxiety to take over. The retcon of “introducing the parents’ anxiety people” is a huge part of this discussion too - none of it is 1:1, but the dynamic of buried memories and anxiety being intwined is a rich part of the discourse anyway you look at it
I actually liked this movie more than the first one, but I think part of that has to do with my frame of mind now verses 8 years ago when the first came out. The way this film depicts anxiety though? Incredible. Between this and the panic attack scenes on Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, I feel like I now have a great visual representation to point to to help people understand what I go through. I'm 43, finally accurately diagnosed Autistic and ADHD at 40 after years of wrong diagnoses (depression, OCD, etc). Almost every Tuesday my mom and my brother and I meet up and go see a movie, it's almost a tradition at this point, and this last Tuesday we saw Inside Out 2. My mom struggles to understand and relate to my experience of the world (as far as we can tell she seems to be neurotypical, where my dad was clearly autistic in hindsight). Being able to turn to her and say "that moment when anxiety starts spinning around in a whirlwind and loses control, that's my brain 2-3 times a day on a good day" it felt like she finally had some idea of what I deal with regularly. Crazy to think an animated movie can help a 70 year old mom better understand her 43 year old son, but there ya go. She recognized Riley's panic attack right away because she's seen me go through that, spiralling out of control trying to make sense of the current moment. That's what I love about movies, they often create moments that can help us better communicate ideas to one another by sharing a reference. I'm sure the next time I call my mom in the middle of the night spiraling out of control from a hurricane of thoughts I can say "remember that scene in Inside Out 2..." And it'll be a shorthand to get to a solution faster, even if that solution is as simple as reminding me to breath. The trauma, PTSD, and anxiety that come from a way-too-late diagnosis are real and strong, but any time I can point to a scene in a movie to help someone better understand what I'm going through in a moment, it is a gift. Its often one of the best communication tools we have because we don't all have the same experiences, but we often do see all the same movies. Using movies to create metaphors is how I got through many of those years before being correctly diagnosed. So yep, I like Inside Out 2 more than the first one, but I'm biased.
in terms of movie, i prefer the 1st one. but in terms of whats portrait on screen, this one takes the cake by a mile. the moment i saw anxiety's whirlwind and than total paralysis at the same time Riley was breathing hard and clutching her chest it brought me back to my own panic attacks...it was the exact same and, for me at least, the first time i actually saw that from the outside insteatd of feeling it myself. perfect, excellent depiction of it. by the way, love your videos! keep up the awesome work!
I feel like saying Anxiety is caused and created instead of an emotion we develop undermines why we have anxiety. We have healthy and unhealthy anxiety, so saying that she "appears" because of choices turns Anxiety into a consequence. It's important that we paint her as an emotion in the film and not as an illness, because clinical anxiety is something very different.
Yeah that's mainly what feels inaccurate to me about the suggestion. It tightens the characters, and there is some truth that unprocessed feelings might make the anxiety more palpable, but it does inevitably go against the idea that anxiety is an important emotion
This movie and the anxiety character hit so close to home with me as a teen. This movie is a good way to understand your younger self as an adult as we’ll understand your own kids.
The first movie felt peaceful and safe to me. The second one felt pretty triggering or unsettling.. as a pretty anxious person who’s still figuring herself out, it pointed out a lot of the fears and feelings I go through: a lot of anxiety’s dialogs hit home and hit hard, Riley’s freezing in place or spacing out and her emotions tell her to “move!”, the core belief changing to “I’m not good enough”, etc. it kinda felt nice to know that this is a journey that I’m not alone in, but it still felt somewhat unnerving slightly.. Good movie still. This movie dives into uncomfortable moments and feelings, goes through it, and shows you that it does pass no matter what.
During the anxiety attack scene, I breakdown in tears because thats how anxiety rushing all self-doubts, depression, and self esteem all at once to the point that I couldn't breathe, my heart is racing, and I lose focus. Talking to someone and spacing out to another area to do something calm REALLY helps me.
I also had not watched Inside Out until last week, and despite years of watching media commentary that included all sorts of information about the events of the film, I was still cracking up I have a vision for the next or later movie, of Riley having an emotion-driven moment, but then she takes a deep breath and the emotions lose power through the control panel, Riley's mind's eye fills with her skating on the frozen pond or some equally established centering image, as she calms herself and controls her emotions instead Now to watch some commentary without seeing the film yet! 💜
I’ve suffered from various anxiety disorders for most of my life, I resonate with this one far more than the first one. I saw this movie at a drive-in theater so thankfully I was able to have my ESA with me. (My lab mix named Noëlle) and she was able to comfort me in the moments where this movie hit me hard. Primarily the moment you described where Reilly’s new orange sense of self says “I’m not good enough” and the panic attack/whirlwind scenes. I see myself in Riley when I was that age. (I’m 43 now) just replace hockey camp with band camp. I am still fighting the sense that I’m not good enough overall even 30 years later. It stays with you, and it’s hard. I liked your analysis. I feel like you have a good point about Joy’s arc, but I feel like this film was supposed to be more about controlling anxiety and how easy it is for that emotion to spiral out of control. I hope that makes sense.
Yeah I had a very, very severe anxiety disorder and there wasn’t anything good that came out of it. It didn’t listen to reason no matter how consciously I would think “Ok, got it. There’s no tiger in the immediate area about to attack me. Thank you! Now can I please drive/work/see friends/leave the house at all?”. One thing I learned from my OCD specific therapist was counterintuitive but effective: instead of dealing in absolutes which perpetuate the anxiety cycle, instead lean into the uncertainty. Which getting in the right meds at the right dose made me feel like I could exist in my own skin, this was really effective. Instead of “No I WON’T have a stroke while driving and crash and kill a school bus full of children.” instead respond with “Well…it’s possible. It’s highly unlikely but it’s not impossible.”
That makes a lot of sense actually! I think I learned this somewhat unintentionally but at the peak of my severe panic attacks era, I was so done with them that I started to ignore them: 'Yeah, I do have an attack now, during this performance, but if I stop what I'm doing and cry about it, it will ruin the performance for others and it won't help me anyway. So I might as well push through it and continue, and if something actually happens to me, at least I was having fun.' And in the end, nothing too bad really happened, which brought me some extra joy. (It was not driving though, in that case it probably IS better to stop and cry for a bit. Idk, I don't drive.)
I watched it yesterday, and, when Joy looks at the “bad” memories in the subconscious and wonders what she is missing, I, a person who has been struggling with anxiety all of her life, said “that they are causing anxiety”. But, on a second thought, they aren’t: Anxiety has a rightful place at the emotions console, she brings value, she just isn’t supposed to take exclusive control, and this is true for all of the emotions, which is what Joy later understands. The removed experiences fuel Anxiety, though, in the sense that the sense of self which Anxiety destroys and strives to rebuild differently is a false sense of self because it doesn’t fully captures all the experiences of Riley’s life. “I’m a good person” is a false sense of self and Anxiety knows it, because it prevents her to help Riley navigate a world of uncertainties, which is why she tosses it away. The new sense of self “I’m not good enough” is also a false sense of self, because it is built on conditional experiences (all the memories Anxiety takes to the Core create “if” statements) and also fails to see the big picture. Then the explosion happens and all the memories trapped in the back of the mind flood into the Core together with the original emotions: this, to me, is very powerful, as, in order to retrieve suppressed emotions and placate panic, one has to bring the subconscious to the conscious level and integrate all those experiences in a new sense of self. This last sense of self is TRUE, and ultimately says “I’m NOT a good person in an absolute sense, but I AM good enough”: it is a sense of self able to navigate ALL the contexts of life, and retrieve and use all the emotions that are needed, a sense of self that forgives. (I hope my point is clear, English is not my native language)
This is my favorite interpretation so far, I love this perspective on (the sense of self) as I noted to myself while watching the scene of all the contradictions coming together and being embraced "that is the point of this .. the truth of her identity" I love the way you put it "good enough", I agree too about the anxiety part I don't see that its existence was just due to repressed emotional energy even though that's how I saw it in real life, it was visualized to me during the movie very clearly, how anxiety on some level balanced out joy, just like the imagination scene, disgust pointed out to joy that it should also "stay realistic", anxiety wasn't realistic of course but I see how it tries to prevent joy from blinding Reilly's judgment on things by being too happy just like at the beginning of the movie she lost herself to joy (with her friends) and didn't note the environment she was in which wasn't the best thing to do
A little piece of visual metaphor I really liked was Anxiety simultaniously going fast like a whirlwind and being frozen still. That's how having a panic attack feels to me - thoughts going a hundread miles a minute, but also not really getting anywhere and being stuck in one spot.
i really enjoyed hearing your prespective on the movie. i have anxiety, overwelming thoughts come at me in panic mode and i have to find ways not to react, and find ways to remain calm and with my logical mind. when you mentioned how the girl in the movies memories were not processed, that they were sent to the back of her mind causing her not to know who she is hit me, it's so relatable and the panic attack seen explained by you made so much more sense, i cried watching that scene because it is so real. wiedly i have thought since inside out came out, the movie explains so much more about the emotions function and it felt like the moral of inside out 2 was that she needed the emotions not to control her and thats also everying ive been understanding about adulthood. its like lifes purpouse is to reach diffrent levels of emotional intelligence. it's wild.
Wow, I love that change you propose - anxiety appearing as a result of all those suppressed things. That would have tied it all together so nicely. I loved this movie a lot - even though I agree that the first one is just stronger overall and this one was definitely messier with the metaphors (and included more things just for the sake of humour/puns that didn't really make any sense otherwise, like the "sar-chasm"), I thought some of the concepts were portrayed so beautifully and effectively (like the "whirlwind"/panic attack, and anxiety as a whole...). I actually cried right at the start when they visited Riley's sense-of-self lake and Joy started touching/strumming the different strings and they said things like "I'm a good friend," "my parents are proud of me"... "I am a good person." It just really, really moved me to see such a securely attached child, idk haha. Beautiful concept. And I also thought this movie was a lot funnier than the previous one - at least on first viewing, the whole cinema was laughing a lot haha. It was great fun.
Your idea of explaining the existence of the new emotions as them being created from the energy of the unprocessed memories being stuffed in the back of Riley's mind was always how I thought it should've gone down too. It would've been great reinforcement from a storytelling perspective for showing why Joy suppressing Riley's memories was destined to cause more problems: "listen to your emotions, or else they will make themselves be heard".
My head canon for why the emotions appear when and how they do, depends on the person's temperament, and their' emotional state at the time the emotions manifest. We've already been shown explicitly that all the emotions don't need to be at the controls let alone in headquarters all the time. And in real life, not everyone experiences every emotion. Someone might be physically incapable of feeling certain emotions, or more likely never encountered as situation in which particular emotions manifest.
I really wanna see this movie. The first film was absolutely BEAUTIFUL in my opinion, and I've been looking forward to the second one. I guess I'm probably gonna wait til its streaming, but still looking forward to it and love the reactions and analysies of the film lol
@@CrowLady0_0 I also LOVE that the Mom's emotional "Captain" or whatever at "Headquarters" is Sadness in the first film (again, haven't seen the second one yet), because it really plays into the themes of the film and shows the importance of feeling sad sometimes, and how it sort of levels you out and keeps you grounded, while also making for beautiful nostalgic moments... God I love this movie lol
@@J_Mock92 yes! it shows her empathetic nature! oh it's so good. these movies are so good! whaaa thank you for telling me your thoughts!! i really loved reading them :D
Loved 1, but loved 2 more. The absolute logic & positivity, the intention to be helpful, of Anxiety was eye opening for me. Further, cried during this one, though not the first one. 10/10 for me. Still thinking about it & want to see it again. Thx for the walk vid! Being on a cliff edge gave me some anxiety tbh, but trusted nothing terrible would happen in your vlog, so relaxed & enjoyed it. Could never do that whole walk in real life.
I watched this movie today in cinemas in South Africa and absolutely loved it. I also love your suggestion about how Joy throwing the memories to the back of the mind could have made Anxiety appear. That link could have made the film even better because that's exactly how anxiety starts for me. It's like you try and reject the present moment for what it is, instead trying to control it. So by rejecting all the bad moments of her life, Anxiety will develop.
I haven't watched this film yet, mostly 'cause I watched the trailer and felt a bit meh about it. But one thing I can say is that, even if not 100% accurate (because of course it can't be), it was a good enough representation of anxiety to make my mom understand my anxiety dissorder better. I think that for the longest time she tought I was being a bit dramatic when I was having panic attacks, even when I was shaking so much my teeth were chattering. Not that she ever made me feel that way directly, but I could tell she didn't get it. So I'm happy this film is helping the people who do not experience having a hightened anxiety to see what it's like. I would love to know what your opinion on videos like Accepting anxiety by Thomas Sanders is! About you grandpa, sadly can't say much to help in any way but I'm sending you all of my good vibes so you can have them with you when you need them ❤
I haven’t seen anyone commenting this yet but there was some really good mindfulness techniques as Riley came out her panic attack! She notices the roughness of the wood and the sound of the skates on the ice!!! Reminds me of the 5-4-3-2-1 mindfulness practice!
This movie honestly helped me drink WAY less. I’m a functioning alcoholic who drinks a lot every day. I’m in my mid twenties but have been doing it since my early 20s. These movies were healing and puts your emotions to perspective. Whenever I feel like drinking, I’d just think which emotion is driving me and call upon whoever I might need to feel. Anxiety to prepare for the next day, joy to hang out with friends and family, sadness to cry it out, etc. All much better than drinking the night away imo
Just as good as the first one. When Anxiety starts to burn herself out, I know how that feels myself in the workplace sometimes ( I do Chef work which I am passionate about ). The Sarcasm scene made me laugh out loud 😅.
I feel like that’s why the emotions of the adults seem to work better together than Riley’s. They have overcome hardship together in their own childhoods, the likes of which Riley’s emotions are experiencing now, and have learned to work together. That theme was present in both films and I loved it, I loved that Riley has healthy parents.
I'd like to see another film in the same world with a different character where instead of following a character like Riley where they had what they needed as a child and built a positive sense of self at a young age I'd like to see a different person who has gradually built an unhelpful/ negative sense of self and exploring their journey to becoming a better sense of self. In the story Riley has this great family that cares, loves and provides her with the support she needs though it would be interesting to explore the world of someone that didn't/ doesn't have that. I kinda feel like this kind of movie could be difficult to effectively create or get the message across if you're trying to target a young audience or a child audience though could work better if the film is targeted toward a mature audience like late teens and adults.
I also thought that the mountain of memories at the back of the mind was what created anxiety. Loved the movie but couldn't tell why I walked away from it feeling a little off. Your description of it being an "uncomfortable" movie made a lot more sense.
The first movie had Riley have a depressive experience, while the second one had her have panic attack. That’s a lot for a kid to handle as she’s still very young. While the second film was more memorable, the first one was more impactful emotionally and with its concepts, however the first one did a great job portraying it’s overall message and the second one did as well but was kinda less impactful due to certain elements. Both films are great though I prefer the first one, as you said it was much more slower and impactful.
So overall, I’ve loved your analysis of this movie. I think how you’d want to change it could work and make it better, but it was perfect for me just as it was. The first time I watched this movie, well, I appreciated how others could see it and love it, I could not. I don’t actually believe necessarily in giving trigger warnings for things, but I almost wish this movie had had them. The first viewing was a traumatic I had flashbacks to my own experiences just before and in middle school while watching it. During this first viewing, I sobbed, cried, occasionally laughed, and I think in self-defense dozed off occasionally. Fortunately, I was watching it significantly after the release and they were only two other family groups in the theater with me. After talking through my emotions and my experience with a few very close friends, and after rewatching the first movie again, I decided to see the movie, a second time. I really wanted to just be able to fully process my emotions about the movie, whereas the first time I watched it, it was far too traumatic for me to even begin to process what I’d been watching. While I had a few tears in the second viewing, most of them were more of the happy tears variety from appreciating the work God had done in me through talking with my friends. I was then actually able to watch it a third time with no tears and just able to appreciate the movie for what it was. I’m greatly looking forward to being able to rewatch it once it comes to Disney+ probably many more times.
I'm probably going to date myself for mentioning this, but the character of "Anxiety" makes me think of the 1995 Sega Saturn game, "BUG!" I mean seriously, google "1995 Saturn BUG!", compare the images of that character along with Inside Out's "Anxiety" and tell if you can or can't see the similarities design-wise, and tell me what you think. Now I'm not saying that they ripped this character off, but I just can't help but feel they were at the very least inspired off of it to a small degree (That's just my opinion though). What do you think? Do you agree with me? Do you disagree? Does "Anxiety" remind you of anything you may have seen before? If so, what comes to your mind when you see "Anxiety"? Please comment, I'd be interested to hear your opinions, thoughts, criticisms, etc., whatever you have to share. Thank you! Have a nice day!
There definitely are similarities but I also think it might be a coincidence because giant eyes and a tooth smile taking up all of the face makes sense for the emotion and I feel like it's a design I've seen similarly elsewhere before
After watching both of these inside out videos from you I really hope that you would check out also Encanto and Soul. I think there is a lot that you could talk about in those movies.
I loved the movie, also loved your suggestion about the story arc. It could really tie some loose ends together. My only criticism about the movie (and it is only big from a therapist's perspective, it would be a mess cinematically to put yet another big character) is that they completely forgot about the only other main positive emotion - curiosity. I was a happy teen and the main emotion driving most of my actions was curiosity - if I was scared or embarrassed I always managed to cope with it because I was curious about what will happen next. This could be their third movie.
Another wonderful video about one of Pixar great films. I'm always interested in your film analyses, your thoughts, and viewpoints (even if you sometimes as you say go astray, ramble and don't talk too much about the film itself). Your passion and perspective is interesting to listen to. Now I had already mentioned this in your first analysis about INSIDE OUT, but I did more research and it turns out that I WAS right when I said that we DO get SHAME as a new emotion in INSIDE OUT 2 (However I guess through the eyes of Hollywood Executives or SJW's or whoever else, it would be WRONG to actually acknowledge that we as people have that emotion) so they chickened out and labeled it as EMBARASSMENT as a means to not offend anybody. They labeled it EMBARASSMENT to be safe, but it's SHAME, it's clearly SHAME! If anyone out there thinks I'm being ridiculous: Here are the actual GOOGLE DEFINITIONS (which you can search yourself if you think I'm lying bout this) of those emotions to further solidify my point: 1.) EMBARASSMENT = a feeling of self-consciousness, shame, or awkwardness. (Key word = SHAME. This means Embarassment is merely an extension of Shame) 2.) SHAME = a painful feeling of humiliation or distress caused by the consciousness of wrong or foolish behavior. (This is predominantly whenever the character of EMBARASSMENT chimes in the movie) And yes, while I will acknowledge that Embarassment IS partially correct, It's evident that SHAME is WAY more accurate and on the nose to MOST of the situations Riley encounters through out this second film. EVEN one of the directors, Kelsey Mann admitted in an interview that they were initially going to include SHAME as an emotion, but they cut it out at the last minute due to fear of being heavily panned and criticized for it by both critics and audiences. The link to the clip of this brief interview is provided below: ua-cam.com/users/shortsANxNEZFY13o I don't care whatever ANYONE says, the character of EMBARASSMENT is actually SHAME!! Now I know that some might think that I'm being a stickler with what I'm pointing out, but I'm the type of person that will call a SPADE a SPADE, ergo I call EMBARASSMENT by his correct name, which is SHAME! EMBARASSMENT is incontrovertibly SHAME!! Anyway, great analysis and I look forward to whatever you may coming up next!
I liked this film a lot. I agree, the metaphor doesn't always work perfectly, and isn't completely consistent with the first film. But that doesn't stop the meaning coming across. The plot feels a bit convoluted/ rushed but then, teenage emotions are very all over the place and sometimes irrational, so this fits.
Excuse me sir, i would like to ask you something. I am 13 years old male and i watched this film 2 weeks ago. the second i walked out that cinema i became so sad. It felt like i had this weight attached to me bringing me down. I didn't actually cry in the movie but when i got home i cryed for about an hour. Two weeks later i still have that weight and sadness but it has become less. I have tryed to figure out but dont know what part of the movie was sad for me. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
It's hard to say exactly because there's a lot of deep, relatable stuff in the movie that could stick in anyone's mind. Riley is also 13 so it's no doubt a lot of experiences and feelings you also share with her. Generally, that's a good thing. It's not always pleasant for a movie to stay with you and leave you sad like that for ages after. It's a bit like a grieving process sometimes, but it's often what art and movies are meant to do: make us feel and make us reflect. The better you are at thinking about feelings the more emotionally intelligent you'll become, so to be sitting with a movie sadness ages after, even at your age, that's a real strength, even if you still haven't figured out why the hell it means so much to you. If you're anything like me, you might not properly realise for months. You'll slowly forget about it, then suddenly see or read something about the movie one day and it'll click, like it was the most obvious thing in the world
@@mylittlethoughttree Hey I really appreciate you leaving notifications on and replying to me. It means a lot. I think I might have figured it out but not quite sure yet as I will see clips of inside out 2 on UA-cam and will literally start to cry, but am slowly starting to feel better. I wish you the best. Thanks so much 🙏.
IV even started to worry about depression but have realised that depression is much more severe than what iv been dealing with. I think that I almost merged my life with Riley's and have felt a deeper connection to inside out 2 than any other film IV ever watched even tho I am quite an emotional guy 😂
I get your point about how you would change the reason Anxiety appears but I think it creates a new problem of not explaining why the other new emotions appear. Using Puberty as a catch all reason they appear at this time is a slightly imperfect but still ok for the purpose of the film explanation of why they show up. Saying Anxiety appears because Joy wasn’t letting Riley process and accept negative memories explains why that character tries to take over but doesn’t explain why Embarrassment Envy and Ennoi aren’t equally power hungry and instead defer to Anxiety
imo none of the other emotions should have been in the movie because they don’t add to the story at all and can be represented by the main emotions. Even Anxiety didn’t need to be a new character. It should have been Fear that represents anxiety. Make it so he starts getting anxious about Joy throwing away all the bad experiences, then he becomes hostile and takes over, kicking out Joy.
Yeah that is certainly one issue. I think either remove the other 3 altogether (which I'd rather not do, even if they get nowhere near enough space to be characters in the story) or you leave little orange hints that anxiety had been building up from the very beginning, then you think she appeared with the other emotions until discovering it as a twist later on, and then... just don't explain why the other 3 appear when they did, I don't think it necessarily matters if you execute the twist well enough. Or Joy didn't create anxiety but she did create the environment that made anxiety seize power and enter in so certain to take over Eitherway, those are all off the top solutions and your comment again points out the difference between having an idea that sounds good in your head, and the idea still being as good when you write it out
I think the representation associated with the additional feelings not presenting earlier in her mind is because joy repressed memories that would trigger them. Largely bc she has a healthy attachment upbringing
I thoroughly agree. Visually, I also wondered why Joy is the only character that isn't mostly monochromatic. All the others have hair colour matching their body but joy is the only one that doesn't. It´s probably nothing. Maybe they just tried to make joy more anthropomorphic but To me it touches on that toxicity of having to see everything through a happy lens, toxic positivity.
I had wondered about that, too. I took it as an early hint for Joy to accept both the blue and yellow of the memories in the first film, which I think is a different way of seeing the same interpretation as you
I just wonder why Joy and Anger didn't act like their emotions while on the hunt for Rileys self. Joy was afraid, even angry while Anger himself was calm and tried to comfort Joy. Those emotions represent the very emotions they portray. Joy represents joy and Anger anger so I wonder whats up with that, how it that to explain? Just wanna clear up: it's by no means critique but a genuine question.
I thought these emotions were more literal in the psychological sense but described informally. You look at the end of the first film and it appears that Sadness is the one in charge of her mother's brain trust. Maybe a better name for her would be empathy? As it seems from the first film that sadness was technically more competent.
4:53 yeah I mean one thing is that the emotions have emotions, I know they’re supposed to have emotions because their personified but it makes my brain hurt if I think about it too much. Like do the emotions have their own emotions running around in their heads? Is it like emotion inception?
I honestly totally get what you mean because all I kept thinking in this movie and in the last one is that Joy seems to feel disgusted a lot to the point that it even sometimes surpasses Disgust herself. She seems grossed out by the concept of having crushes and other romantic and even maybe sexual interests whereas Disgust seems thrilled with it to the point that she has a crush on the video game character as Riley does. I do get that there is a blurred line between fear, disgust, and desire/admiration which makes sense because there is possible harm in getting involved with other people from a both bodily standpoint and social/economical standpoint.
I mean it is a movie about puberty and teenage years, so I guess the pacing and messiness could also be seen as a hit point that matches that part and pulled us in to the chaotic feeling of developing teenagers.
My first reaction when you said "thirteen" was "Oh God" lol. I would expect the crew to be a mess at that age. It seems the second movie is quite different than the first. I've seen reviews that rated the movie poorly. Part of me can't help but wonder how much of it is because the expectations of the viewer is to be soothed whereas movie two shines a light more on things that harder to see...that aren't pretty.
I get that but, generally, it is. Anxiety disorders are not normal but we all feel anxiety itself from time to time, like we all feel anger or sadness or anything else. Good or bad, it's a thing that people feel and we can't just get rid of it. Hopefully we can ease it when it's too much, because anxiety taking such control in this film is definitely too much, but it's still an ordinary emotion in itself
Didn't like that the cool kids were so nice. In the real world the cool kids are often mean and when we replicate them we become someone we never wanted to be. Mean girls is a more realistic movie about it
They were mean to her, just not in the classic bully locker shoving sense. They made fun of her music preference and made her feel bad for enjoying the music she and her friends liked. They clearly knew she was lying about it when those friends pointed it out, but didn’t apologize.
this movie had such a MASSIVE impact on me as a 25 year old girl who’s struggled with anxiety her entire life 🧡🥹 made a video on my channel all about it.
Oh no, what do I pin as a comment when there isn't a sponsor in the video?
Uhhh, here's the link to the video on the first film: ua-cam.com/video/IIVC0NFDEq8/v-deo.html
😅😮😮😅😮,😅
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Is it a perfect metaphor? No, but my 10yo daughter with clinical anxiety and level 1 (minimal intervention) autism reached for my hand while tears flowed down her cheeks, and we cried together. It is a beautiful, simple depiction of what anxiety feels like, especially to a child who is in the midst of figuring out who she is.
My mom held my hand while I cried through this movie too
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This 43yo AuDHDer had a total (mostly silent) meltdown (much like a panic attack) during that scene.
….But, although it felt just like all the [negative] ones I’ve ever had -all over clenched and sweating body, sobbing, unable to catch my breath- it also felt … REALLY good afterwards. It was sort of, freeing, as it was not one fraught with the typical feelings of a lack of safety or awareness, but one of blissfully overwhelming validation … if that makes sense.
You nailed it , overwhelming validation @@nnylasoR
I thought this movie had the most accurate depiction of anxiety I've ever seen. Adored this film.
the same thing
I dont think the message of the movie is "be true to yourself", i think its more like "your sense of self is going to be complex and self acceptance will help make the best of moving through the world". Key words, complex and self acceptance. It builds on the message of the first Inside Out where they crack the facade that only relying on Joy as the backbone and primary emotion doesnt always lead to the best outcomes for Riley. In Inside Out 2, even though Joy has integrated with Sadness, everyone still leans on Joy as the leader at the start of the movie. I LOVED the scene where Joy talks about the pressure of always being the leader, and essentially revisiting that conversation about toxic positivity.
Yeah, I agree really. "Be true to yourself" is a stock phrase but it doesn't really mean anything. This film does start with that basic trope but it actually explores the depth beyond it
I'm sorry but how did anyone get "be true to yourself" from this movie. When they tried putting the old Riley back it didn't work, they needed to scrap it for a new Riley to make herself
@@isdrakon9802The movie is about Riley's identity crisis and her attempt at coming to grips with a new identity.
Obviously some people won’t get it but as someone with an anxiety disorder i really liked the joke they made where joy says when they get back to the headquarters they should tell anxiety to relax, and how she probably didn’t think of that one yet, to which the other emotions react by agreeing and thinking its a genius idea. It’s ironic how many people genuinely think saying that to someone struggling with anxiety will somehow “cure” them, even if they don’t know any better
I liked that bit, too. The childish drawings with which we see that plan being imagined adds to the joke
I loved when Joy said that they'll go back to HQ and tell Anxiety to relax and Anxiety will go "I never thought of that before!!" It felt like such a backhanded statement that was a direct response to people who tell those that undergo a panic attack to "chill"
yeeeah so true!!!!! It simply doesn’t work like this cause if it did we wouldn't feel it all the time, isn't it obvious?!? It is really hard to explain my parents that it's useless to say the phrases such as “ common everything is okay” “you have a house and family, there is nothing to worry about” etc. We don’t choose to feel anxiety, it makes it so we would feel it
@@harmonydew6486 yep, Its literally what my parents always say to me🤦🏻♀️ All people who are saying that are the Captains Obvious
“Chucking all the bad stuff away, trying to focus only on the good experiences means that all the bad memories are floating around unprocessed and not acknowledge but still there. And because they are suppressed and avoided it makes them doubly scary and doubly impactful. They feel like a threat to your sense of self- I am a good person but only if I hold everything else at bay, and knowing I’m holding it at bay makes me feel like I’m not a good person at all.”
Holy shit you have no idea how hard that hit me.
I hope that's a good thing 😂
@@mylittlethoughttree it helped me realize a big contributor to my anxiety is my avoidance coping mechanism. And my therapy session is tomorrow so I’m gonna try to break it down there and hopefully progress in my healing
right! same here
As someone who suffers from anxiety and depression, I spent a good chunk of this movie crying uncontrollably during Joy's breakdowns and the panic attack scene. It was like looking into a mirror of my own experiences.
Is it wrong to say it’s nice to know it wasn’t just me that was crying in controllably doing the first time they watched this movie? Many of the movies scenes mirrored my own experiences too, although I think different ones than mirrored for you.
To me, the moral of the movie is every emotion has a function but not every emotion is helpful to lean into at every moment. They also did a good job of showing why it’s not helpful to just suppress unpleasant memories. That was an interesting nuance that I enjoyed
Coming from someone who's a child therapist as well: I think you nailed it with the idea of anxiety appearing because of the repressed memories. That was exactly my thought when she first appeared and I was a little surprised they didn't explain in the movie that was the reason she did.
Overal I think these movies are a blessing for us therapists because they offer such a good simplified visualization of such complex subjects. I've learned that these help immensely in making children and parents understand themselves and their actions. The key is not to explain things perfectly or as thorough as you can, but to explain it in a way that people grasp the basic concept and can work with it. These movies do that exceptionally.
Ahh thanks for saying! It's always nice to hear that from other therapists
I’ll say as someone who’s always struggled to feel happy, Joy’s breakdown in this film didn’t hit me super hard. But I completely agree the moment in this movie that shocked me with its accuracy was that first “I’m not good enough” because, man, I think everyone has heard that voice before, and the desperation and dread in the voice actress delivering it was very well done. I also greatly appreciated that rather than anxiety being contained or otherwise punished. That single tear when she’s frozen at the controls, eyes completely locked until Joy calls her attention again, that’s so, so real, even if on the surface you don’t express it that way.
I’m struggling through severe anxiety right now. Every other thought I have is a scary one. You telling me that it’s okay to not be able to handle it made me cry with relief.
Same
Ahh well I'm glad the video has been positive, then. Thank you for saying so! I think sometimes with all the amount people talk about "coping" with anxiety or "managing" it, it becomes far too easy to end up feeling like you're failing or doing some kind of bad job, whenever anxiety feels too much, which I don't think is true, really. Wishing you the best
I just realized, and this makes me love the inside out movies even more! The first movie that was about sadness made you sad and happy just like they did to Riley. In inside out two, which is a movie about anxiety is a tense movie! We are made to feel what Riley feels! 😭
As someone who’s experienced both unhelpful phrasings, Joy memeing about telling Anxiety to “just stop worrying so much” and then the actual solution being Joy telling Anxiety to “let go” was both infuriating and hilarious that that was the actual solution.
I would counter that by saying "let go" wasn't the solution. Letting all of the different thoughts and beliefs fluctuate in the sense of self, then hugging it; was the solution. Let go, was more the solution for anxiety's character in itself but yes, you're not exactly wrong and the film could be a lot clearer in its meaning
I’d say that to let go was the first step in solving the panic attack. And the second step is what you described of coming to acceptance and self-love and just accepting who you are and it is what it is. I know for me when I’m in the grip of some overwhelming experience, my first step is definitely to let go and remember I can’t be in control of my emotions or whatever is going on me around me. Then I can process what’s actually happened and do what is needed to get to a place of self-love.
I love inside out 2 more than the first movie.
It made me more connected to my anxiety. I have GAD I used to do all the things you say make anxiety worse. I would try to suppress her and try to be happy. When she was trying to tell me something. I wouldn’t listen because it scared me to think about what she said.
Then I saw a ted talk about how anxiety is an emotion like happiness and it won’t last forever, and to let her steer the boat for a little. ( his words )
From then on I basically comforted my own anxiety instead of ignoring her, and whenever I got super anxious I would just imagine me talking to my anxiety like I was talking to a scared child. Then inside out 2 comes along and it just solidified everything all of my beliefs and made it easier for me to appreciate my anxiety. I related so unbelievably hard to the movie!
Ps, I personified my anxiety before inside out 2 came out. His name is Bruno like Bruno from Encanto because “we don’t talk about Bruno” and I didn’t talk about my anxiety. Get it? I thought that was funny and clever. He is lavender and he is a sheep child in pj’s holding a stuffed animal because stuffed animals help me feel better when I’m scared.
He is a sheep because it’s a stereotype that sheep’s are meek scared little creatures, and they always hide in a heard which to me symbolizes the fear of being alone and the struggle to “fit in”
I love anxiety so much but I also don’t want to replace Bruno so they are both in my brain and they are both my anxiety. The thing is Bruno is the type of anxiety that you get for seemingly no reason and anxiety from inside out two is the type of anxiety that has a reason for it being there, like the fear of bad people.
This was an helpful advice, thank you for sharing I will name my anxiety to see if it works!
@@verakace I’m glad it’s helpful advise. I hope it does help you. And if by any chance it doesn’t I hope you find coping mechanisms that will help you really well.
Imagining talking to your anxiety like their somebody else hits different.
At least to me. I think it’s because it feels like someone else telling me everything is going to be ok. When I tell myself everything is going to be ok it doesn’t feel as good.
@@lilhedgehog8576 I think Bruno is the anxiety that you get one for no good reason you know or sense that family are very close. Friends are rejecting you and or your emotions.
I think it’s a pretty good representation of cognitive dissonance in the scene on the ice when she has to pick teams. Does a good job of showing the discomfort that comes with dissonance. I also think the parallels between sadness and embarrassment and fear and anxiety were cool
Anxiety is almost perfectly presented. I love how Anxiety hijack the imagination. It's so powerful that Anxiety actually wants to help Riley.
I was SO annoyed with Anxiety taking control over all of Riley's actions, until the panic attack scene where Joy realized Anxiety is OUT of control. They did such a good way of portraying it tbh. Sometimes it's like that, you just gotta be easy on yourself and not let anxiety rule the mind even though it's gonna stick around. Sometimes it's easier, sometimes it's harder.
I liked your final comment. Supressed memories made anxiety appear. That would indeed have been an interesting way to approach this.
I thought that was the case when I saw the movie. Should have been clearer I guess
The idea of joy creating anxiety in order to maintain control stuck out to me a lot too.
I feel like it does crumble the core of how emotions exist though. If Joy causes Anxiety to exist, it means that she can be prevented. Anxiety exists regardless of how healthy we are mentally because it *is* a necessary emotion.
@@uploader109good point, maybe the most ideal framing is that Joy’s work between the two movies created a framework that was well set-up for anxiety to take over.
The retcon of “introducing the parents’ anxiety people” is a huge part of this discussion too - none of it is 1:1, but the dynamic of buried memories and anxiety being intwined is a rich part of the discourse anyway you look at it
I actually liked this movie more than the first one, but I think part of that has to do with my frame of mind now verses 8 years ago when the first came out.
The way this film depicts anxiety though? Incredible. Between this and the panic attack scenes on Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, I feel like I now have a great visual representation to point to to help people understand what I go through.
I'm 43, finally accurately diagnosed Autistic and ADHD at 40 after years of wrong diagnoses (depression, OCD, etc). Almost every Tuesday my mom and my brother and I meet up and go see a movie, it's almost a tradition at this point, and this last Tuesday we saw Inside Out 2. My mom struggles to understand and relate to my experience of the world (as far as we can tell she seems to be neurotypical, where my dad was clearly autistic in hindsight). Being able to turn to her and say "that moment when anxiety starts spinning around in a whirlwind and loses control, that's my brain 2-3 times a day on a good day" it felt like she finally had some idea of what I deal with regularly. Crazy to think an animated movie can help a 70 year old mom better understand her 43 year old son, but there ya go. She recognized Riley's panic attack right away because she's seen me go through that, spiralling out of control trying to make sense of the current moment. That's what I love about movies, they often create moments that can help us better communicate ideas to one another by sharing a reference. I'm sure the next time I call my mom in the middle of the night spiraling out of control from a hurricane of thoughts I can say "remember that scene in Inside Out 2..." And it'll be a shorthand to get to a solution faster, even if that solution is as simple as reminding me to breath. The trauma, PTSD, and anxiety that come from a way-too-late diagnosis are real and strong, but any time I can point to a scene in a movie to help someone better understand what I'm going through in a moment, it is a gift. Its often one of the best communication tools we have because we don't all have the same experiences, but we often do see all the same movies. Using movies to create metaphors is how I got through many of those years before being correctly diagnosed.
So yep, I like Inside Out 2 more than the first one, but I'm biased.
in terms of movie, i prefer the 1st one. but in terms of whats portrait on screen, this one takes the cake by a mile. the moment i saw anxiety's whirlwind and than total paralysis at the same time Riley was breathing hard and clutching her chest it brought me back to my own panic attacks...it was the exact same and, for me at least, the first time i actually saw that from the outside insteatd of feeling it myself. perfect, excellent depiction of it.
by the way, love your videos! keep up the awesome work!
I feel like saying Anxiety is caused and created instead of an emotion we develop undermines why we have anxiety. We have healthy and unhealthy anxiety, so saying that she "appears" because of choices turns Anxiety into a consequence. It's important that we paint her as an emotion in the film and not as an illness, because clinical anxiety is something very different.
Yeah that's mainly what feels inaccurate to me about the suggestion. It tightens the characters, and there is some truth that unprocessed feelings might make the anxiety more palpable, but it does inevitably go against the idea that anxiety is an important emotion
This movie and the anxiety character hit so close to home with me as a teen. This movie is a good way to understand your younger self as an adult as we’ll understand your own kids.
I had hoped when Sadness got to headquarters the new emotions would adopt her as their own. That would’ve felt very true to my experience 😂
I think embarrassment definitely did adopt her as part of his own family.
The first movie felt peaceful and safe to me. The second one felt pretty triggering or unsettling.. as a pretty anxious person who’s still figuring herself out, it pointed out a lot of the fears and feelings I go through: a lot of anxiety’s dialogs hit home and hit hard, Riley’s freezing in place or spacing out and her emotions tell her to “move!”, the core belief changing to “I’m not good enough”, etc.
it kinda felt nice to know that this is a journey that I’m not alone in, but it still felt somewhat unnerving slightly..
Good movie still. This movie dives into uncomfortable moments and feelings, goes through it, and shows you that it does pass no matter what.
During the anxiety attack scene, I breakdown in tears because thats how anxiety rushing all self-doubts, depression, and self esteem all at once to the point that I couldn't breathe, my heart is racing, and I lose focus. Talking to someone and spacing out to another area to do something calm REALLY helps me.
I also had not watched Inside Out until last week, and despite years of watching media commentary that included all sorts of information about the events of the film, I was still cracking up
I have a vision for the next or later movie, of Riley having an emotion-driven moment, but then she takes a deep breath and the emotions lose power through the control panel, Riley's mind's eye fills with her skating on the frozen pond or some equally established centering image, as she calms herself and controls her emotions instead
Now to watch some commentary without seeing the film yet! 💜
I’ve suffered from various anxiety disorders for most of my life, I resonate with this one far more than the first one. I saw this movie at a drive-in theater so thankfully I was able to have my ESA with me. (My lab mix named Noëlle) and she was able to comfort me in the moments where this movie hit me hard. Primarily the moment you described where Reilly’s new orange sense of self says “I’m not good enough” and the panic attack/whirlwind scenes. I see myself in Riley when I was that age. (I’m 43 now) just replace hockey camp with band camp. I am still fighting the sense that I’m not good enough overall even 30 years later. It stays with you, and it’s hard. I liked your analysis. I feel like you have a good point about Joy’s arc, but I feel like this film was supposed to be more about controlling anxiety and how easy it is for that emotion to spiral out of control. I hope that makes sense.
Lol the scenario you described about the interaction with theb shop attendant is the most British thing ever 😅
Yeah I had a very, very severe anxiety disorder and there wasn’t anything good that came out of it. It didn’t listen to reason no matter how consciously I would think “Ok, got it. There’s no tiger in the immediate area about to attack me. Thank you! Now can I please drive/work/see friends/leave the house at all?”.
One thing I learned from my OCD specific therapist was counterintuitive but effective: instead of dealing in absolutes which perpetuate the anxiety cycle, instead lean into the uncertainty. Which getting in the right meds at the right dose made me feel like I could exist in my own skin, this was really effective. Instead of “No I WON’T have a stroke while driving and crash and kill a school bus full of children.” instead respond with “Well…it’s possible. It’s highly unlikely but it’s not impossible.”
That makes a lot of sense actually! I think I learned this somewhat unintentionally but at the peak of my severe panic attacks era, I was so done with them that I started to ignore them: 'Yeah, I do have an attack now, during this performance, but if I stop what I'm doing and cry about it, it will ruin the performance for others and it won't help me anyway. So I might as well push through it and continue, and if something actually happens to me, at least I was having fun.' And in the end, nothing too bad really happened, which brought me some extra joy. (It was not driving though, in that case it probably IS better to stop and cry for a bit. Idk, I don't drive.)
I watched it yesterday, and, when Joy looks at the “bad” memories in the subconscious and wonders what she is missing, I, a person who has been struggling with anxiety all of her life, said “that they are causing anxiety”. But, on a second thought, they aren’t: Anxiety has a rightful place at the emotions console, she brings value, she just isn’t supposed to take exclusive control, and this is true for all of the emotions, which is what Joy later understands. The removed experiences fuel Anxiety, though, in the sense that the sense of self which Anxiety destroys and strives to rebuild differently is a false sense of self because it doesn’t fully captures all the experiences of Riley’s life. “I’m a good person” is a false sense of self and Anxiety knows it, because it prevents her to help Riley navigate a world of uncertainties, which is why she tosses it away. The new sense of self “I’m not good enough” is also a false sense of self, because it is built on conditional experiences (all the memories Anxiety takes to the Core create “if” statements) and also fails to see the big picture. Then the explosion happens and all the memories trapped in the back of the mind flood into the Core together with the original emotions: this, to me, is very powerful, as, in order to retrieve suppressed emotions and placate panic, one has to bring the subconscious to the conscious level and integrate all those experiences in a new sense of self. This last sense of self is TRUE, and ultimately says “I’m NOT a good person in an absolute sense, but I AM good enough”: it is a sense of self able to navigate ALL the contexts of life, and retrieve and use all the emotions that are needed, a sense of self that forgives.
(I hope my point is clear, English is not my native language)
This is my favorite interpretation so far, I love this perspective on (the sense of self) as I noted to myself while watching the scene of all the contradictions coming together and being embraced "that is the point of this .. the truth of her identity" I love the way you put it "good enough", I agree too about the anxiety part I don't see that its existence was just due to repressed emotional energy even though that's how I saw it in real life, it was visualized to me during the movie very clearly, how anxiety on some level balanced out joy, just like the imagination scene, disgust pointed out to joy that it should also "stay realistic", anxiety wasn't realistic of course but I see how it tries to prevent joy from blinding Reilly's judgment on things by being too happy just like at the beginning of the movie she lost herself to joy (with her friends) and didn't note the environment she was in which wasn't the best thing to do
A little piece of visual metaphor I really liked was Anxiety simultaniously going fast like a whirlwind and being frozen still.
That's how having a panic attack feels to me - thoughts going a hundread miles a minute, but also not really getting anywhere and being stuck in one spot.
i really enjoyed hearing your prespective on the movie. i have anxiety, overwelming thoughts come at me in panic mode and i have to find ways not to react, and find ways to remain calm and with my logical mind. when you mentioned how the girl in the movies memories were not processed, that they were sent to the back of her mind causing her not to know who she is hit me, it's so relatable and the panic attack seen explained by you made so much more sense, i cried watching that scene because it is so real. wiedly i have thought since inside out came out, the movie explains so much more about the emotions function and it felt like the moral of inside out 2 was that she needed the emotions not to control her and thats also everying ive been understanding about adulthood. its like lifes purpouse is to reach diffrent levels of emotional intelligence. it's wild.
Wow, I love that change you propose - anxiety appearing as a result of all those suppressed things. That would have tied it all together so nicely.
I loved this movie a lot - even though I agree that the first one is just stronger overall and this one was definitely messier with the metaphors (and included more things just for the sake of humour/puns that didn't really make any sense otherwise, like the "sar-chasm"), I thought some of the concepts were portrayed so beautifully and effectively (like the "whirlwind"/panic attack, and anxiety as a whole...). I actually cried right at the start when they visited Riley's sense-of-self lake and Joy started touching/strumming the different strings and they said things like "I'm a good friend," "my parents are proud of me"... "I am a good person." It just really, really moved me to see such a securely attached child, idk haha. Beautiful concept. And I also thought this movie was a lot funnier than the previous one - at least on first viewing, the whole cinema was laughing a lot haha. It was great fun.
Your idea of explaining the existence of the new emotions as them being created from the energy of the unprocessed memories being stuffed in the back of Riley's mind was always how I thought it should've gone down too. It would've been great reinforcement from a storytelling perspective for showing why Joy suppressing Riley's memories was destined to cause more problems: "listen to your emotions, or else they will make themselves be heard".
My head canon for why the emotions appear when and how they do, depends on the person's temperament, and their' emotional state at the time the emotions manifest. We've already been shown explicitly that all the emotions don't need to be at the controls let alone in headquarters all the time. And in real life, not everyone experiences every emotion. Someone might be physically incapable of feeling certain emotions, or more likely never encountered as situation in which particular emotions manifest.
I just came back from seeing this with my kids, such a great movie. I was laughing out loud for the first half and then bawling in the second half.
I really wanna see this movie. The first film was absolutely BEAUTIFUL in my opinion, and I've been looking forward to the second one. I guess I'm probably gonna wait til its streaming, but still looking forward to it and love the reactions and analysies of the film lol
I saw it the other day and absolutely adore it! can't wait for you to see it- i hope you love it as well :D
@@CrowLady0_0 I literally just started rewatching the first one and am already bawling my eyes out 5 minutes in lol
@@J_Mock92 real of you. i still cry when watching it too!
@@CrowLady0_0 I also LOVE that the Mom's emotional "Captain" or whatever at "Headquarters" is Sadness in the first film (again, haven't seen the second one yet), because it really plays into the themes of the film and shows the importance of feeling sad sometimes, and how it sort of levels you out and keeps you grounded, while also making for beautiful nostalgic moments... God I love this movie lol
@@J_Mock92 yes! it shows her empathetic nature! oh it's so good. these movies are so good! whaaa thank you for telling me your thoughts!! i really loved reading them :D
Loved 1, but loved 2 more. The absolute logic & positivity, the intention to be helpful, of Anxiety was eye opening for me.
Further, cried during this one, though not the first one. 10/10 for me. Still thinking about it & want to see it again.
Thx for the walk vid! Being on a cliff edge gave me some anxiety tbh, but trusted nothing terrible would happen in your vlog, so relaxed & enjoyed it. Could never do that whole walk in real life.
I watched this movie today in cinemas in South Africa and absolutely loved it. I also love your suggestion about how Joy throwing the memories to the back of the mind could have made Anxiety appear. That link could have made the film even better because that's exactly how anxiety starts for me. It's like you try and reject the present moment for what it is, instead trying to control it. So by rejecting all the bad moments of her life, Anxiety will develop.
I haven't watched this film yet, mostly 'cause I watched the trailer and felt a bit meh about it. But one thing I can say is that, even if not 100% accurate (because of course it can't be), it was a good enough representation of anxiety to make my mom understand my anxiety dissorder better. I think that for the longest time she tought I was being a bit dramatic when I was having panic attacks, even when I was shaking so much my teeth were chattering. Not that she ever made me feel that way directly, but I could tell she didn't get it. So I'm happy this film is helping the people who do not experience having a hightened anxiety to see what it's like. I would love to know what your opinion on videos like Accepting anxiety by Thomas Sanders is!
About you grandpa, sadly can't say much to help in any way but I'm sending you all of my good vibes so you can have them with you when you need them ❤
I haven’t seen anyone commenting this yet but there was some really good mindfulness techniques as Riley came out her panic attack! She notices the roughness of the wood and the sound of the skates on the ice!!! Reminds me of the 5-4-3-2-1 mindfulness practice!
I think this movie is more emotional, the first movie I didn’t cry out all but this one made me cry like 4 times
I maybe a grown man but this movie really accurately depicted the emotions so well including my own. Loved it
This movie honestly helped me drink WAY less. I’m a functioning alcoholic who drinks a lot every day. I’m in my mid twenties but have been doing it since my early 20s. These movies were healing and puts your emotions to perspective. Whenever I feel like drinking, I’d just think which emotion is driving me and call upon whoever I might need to feel. Anxiety to prepare for the next day, joy to hang out with friends and family, sadness to cry it out, etc. All much better than drinking the night away imo
Just as good as the first one. When Anxiety starts to burn herself out, I know how that feels myself in the workplace sometimes ( I do Chef work which I am passionate about ). The Sarcasm scene made me laugh out loud 😅.
I feel like that’s why the emotions of the adults seem to work better together than Riley’s. They have overcome hardship together in their own childhoods, the likes of which Riley’s emotions are experiencing now, and have learned to work together. That theme was present in both films and I loved it, I loved that Riley has healthy parents.
I'd like to see another film in the same world with a different character where instead of following a character like Riley where they had what they needed as a child and built a positive sense of self at a young age I'd like to see a different person who has gradually built an unhelpful/ negative sense of self and exploring their journey to becoming a better sense of self. In the story Riley has this great family that cares, loves and provides her with the support she needs though it would be interesting to explore the world of someone that didn't/ doesn't have that. I kinda feel like this kind of movie could be difficult to effectively create or get the message across if you're trying to target a young audience or a child audience though could work better if the film is targeted toward a mature audience like late teens and adults.
I also thought that the mountain of memories at the back of the mind was what created anxiety. Loved the movie but couldn't tell why I walked away from it feeling a little off. Your description of it being an "uncomfortable" movie made a lot more sense.
The first movie had Riley have a depressive experience, while the second one had her have panic attack. That’s a lot for a kid to handle as she’s still very young. While the second film was more memorable, the first one was more impactful emotionally and with its concepts, however the first one did a great job portraying it’s overall message and the second one did as well but was kinda less impactful due to certain elements. Both films are great though I prefer the first one, as you said it was much more slower and impactful.
So overall, I’ve loved your analysis of this movie. I think how you’d want to change it could work and make it better, but it was perfect for me just as it was.
The first time I watched this movie, well, I appreciated how others could see it and love it, I could not.
I don’t actually believe necessarily in giving trigger warnings for things, but I almost wish this movie had had them.
The first viewing was a traumatic I had flashbacks to my own experiences just before and in middle school while watching it.
During this first viewing, I sobbed, cried, occasionally laughed, and I think in self-defense dozed off occasionally. Fortunately, I was watching it significantly after the release and they were only two other family groups in the theater with me.
After talking through my emotions and my experience with a few very close friends, and after rewatching the first movie again, I decided to see the movie, a second time. I really wanted to just be able to fully process my emotions about the movie, whereas the first time I watched it, it was far too traumatic for me to even begin to process what I’d been watching. While I had a few tears in the second viewing, most of them were more of the happy tears variety from appreciating the work God had done in me through talking with my friends.
I was then actually able to watch it a third time with no tears and just able to appreciate the movie for what it was. I’m greatly looking forward to being able to rewatch it once it comes to Disney+ probably many more times.
so glad you finally covered part 2 great job
I'm probably going to date myself for mentioning this, but the character of "Anxiety" makes me think of the 1995 Sega Saturn game, "BUG!" I mean seriously, google "1995 Saturn BUG!", compare the images of that character along with Inside Out's "Anxiety" and tell if you can or can't see the similarities design-wise, and tell me what you think.
Now I'm not saying that they ripped this character off, but I just can't help but feel they were at the very least inspired off of it to a small degree (That's just my opinion though). What do you think? Do you agree with me? Do you disagree? Does "Anxiety" remind you of anything you may have seen before? If so, what comes to your mind when you see "Anxiety"?
Please comment, I'd be interested to hear your opinions, thoughts, criticisms, etc., whatever you have to share.
Thank you! Have a nice day!
There definitely are similarities but I also think it might be a coincidence because giant eyes and a tooth smile taking up all of the face makes sense for the emotion and I feel like it's a design I've seen similarly elsewhere before
I hope they will make the whole life of Riley.
Im sorry to hear about your grandad. ❤
After watching both of these inside out videos from you I really hope that you would check out also Encanto and Soul. I think there is a lot that you could talk about in those movies.
I loved the movie, also loved your suggestion about the story arc. It could really tie some loose ends together.
My only criticism about the movie (and it is only big from a therapist's perspective, it would be a mess cinematically to put yet another big character) is that they completely forgot about the only other main positive emotion - curiosity.
I was a happy teen and the main emotion driving most of my actions was curiosity - if I was scared or embarrassed I always managed to cope with it because I was curious about what will happen next. This could be their third movie.
20:13 For me the panic attacks come when I fail as an artist
Another wonderful video about one of Pixar great films. I'm always interested in your film analyses, your thoughts, and viewpoints (even if you sometimes as you say go astray, ramble and don't talk too much about the film itself). Your passion and perspective is interesting to listen to.
Now I had already mentioned this in your first analysis about INSIDE OUT, but I did more research and it turns out that I WAS right when I said that we DO get SHAME as a new emotion in INSIDE OUT 2 (However I guess through the eyes of Hollywood Executives or SJW's or whoever else, it would be WRONG to actually acknowledge that we as people have that emotion) so they chickened out and labeled it as EMBARASSMENT as a means to not offend anybody. They labeled it EMBARASSMENT to be safe, but it's SHAME, it's clearly SHAME!
If anyone out there thinks I'm being ridiculous: Here are the actual GOOGLE DEFINITIONS (which you can search yourself if you think I'm lying bout this) of those emotions to further solidify my point:
1.) EMBARASSMENT = a feeling of self-consciousness, shame, or awkwardness.
(Key word = SHAME. This means Embarassment is merely an extension of Shame)
2.) SHAME = a painful feeling of humiliation or distress caused by the consciousness of wrong or foolish behavior.
(This is predominantly whenever the character of EMBARASSMENT chimes in the movie)
And yes, while I will acknowledge that Embarassment IS partially correct, It's evident that SHAME is WAY more accurate and on the nose to MOST of the situations Riley encounters through out this second film. EVEN one of the directors, Kelsey Mann admitted in an interview that they were initially going to include SHAME as an emotion, but they cut it out at the last minute due to fear of being heavily panned and criticized for it by both critics and audiences. The link to the clip of this brief interview is provided below:
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I don't care whatever ANYONE says, the character of EMBARASSMENT is actually SHAME!! Now I know that some might think that I'm being a stickler with what I'm pointing out, but I'm the type of person that will call a SPADE a SPADE, ergo I call EMBARASSMENT by his correct name, which is SHAME!
EMBARASSMENT is incontrovertibly SHAME!!
Anyway, great analysis and I look forward to whatever you may coming up next!
I was waiting for this!!!
I liked this film a lot. I agree, the metaphor doesn't always work perfectly, and isn't completely consistent with the first film. But that doesn't stop the meaning coming across. The plot feels a bit convoluted/ rushed but then, teenage emotions are very all over the place and sometimes irrational, so this fits.
You still didn't explain why ennui is French 😂😅 that part was the best haha
Plot twist: Riley was born in France and her "parents" kidnapped her. The dad's stache isn't a sexy stache, but a creeper stache.
Excuse me sir, i would like to ask you something. I am 13 years old male and i watched this film 2 weeks ago. the second i walked out that cinema i became so sad. It felt like i had this weight attached to me bringing me down. I didn't actually cry in the movie but when i got home i cryed for about an hour. Two weeks later i still have that weight and sadness but it has become less. I have tryed to figure out but dont know what part of the movie was sad for me. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
It's hard to say exactly because there's a lot of deep, relatable stuff in the movie that could stick in anyone's mind. Riley is also 13 so it's no doubt a lot of experiences and feelings you also share with her. Generally, that's a good thing. It's not always pleasant for a movie to stay with you and leave you sad like that for ages after. It's a bit like a grieving process sometimes, but it's often what art and movies are meant to do: make us feel and make us reflect. The better you are at thinking about feelings the more emotionally intelligent you'll become, so to be sitting with a movie sadness ages after, even at your age, that's a real strength, even if you still haven't figured out why the hell it means so much to you.
If you're anything like me, you might not properly realise for months. You'll slowly forget about it, then suddenly see or read something about the movie one day and it'll click, like it was the most obvious thing in the world
@@mylittlethoughttree Hey I really appreciate you leaving notifications on and replying to me. It means a lot. I think I might have figured it out but not quite sure yet as I will see clips of inside out 2 on UA-cam and will literally start to cry, but am slowly starting to feel better. I wish you the best. Thanks so much 🙏.
IV even started to worry about depression but have realised that depression is much more severe than what iv been dealing with. I think that I almost merged my life with Riley's and have felt a deeper connection to inside out 2 than any other film IV ever watched even tho I am quite an emotional guy 😂
I get your point about how you would change the reason Anxiety appears but I think it creates a new problem of not explaining why the other new emotions appear. Using Puberty as a catch all reason they appear at this time is a slightly imperfect but still ok for the purpose of the film explanation of why they show up. Saying Anxiety appears because Joy wasn’t letting Riley process and accept negative memories explains why that character tries to take over but doesn’t explain why Embarrassment Envy and Ennoi aren’t equally power hungry and instead defer to Anxiety
imo none of the other emotions should have been in the movie because they don’t add to the story at all and can be represented by the main emotions. Even Anxiety didn’t need to be a new character. It should have been Fear that represents anxiety. Make it so he starts getting anxious about Joy throwing away all the bad experiences, then he becomes hostile and takes over, kicking out Joy.
@@closebenbut the point was that anxiety and fear are different. They are literally not the same
Yeah that is certainly one issue. I think either remove the other 3 altogether (which I'd rather not do, even if they get nowhere near enough space to be characters in the story) or you leave little orange hints that anxiety had been building up from the very beginning, then you think she appeared with the other emotions until discovering it as a twist later on, and then... just don't explain why the other 3 appear when they did, I don't think it necessarily matters if you execute the twist well enough. Or Joy didn't create anxiety but she did create the environment that made anxiety seize power and enter in so certain to take over
Eitherway, those are all off the top solutions and your comment again points out the difference between having an idea that sounds good in your head, and the idea still being as good when you write it out
I think the representation associated with the additional feelings not presenting earlier in her mind is because joy repressed memories that would trigger them. Largely bc she has a healthy attachment upbringing
I thoroughly agree. Visually, I also wondered why Joy is the only character that isn't mostly monochromatic. All the others have hair colour matching their body but joy is the only one that doesn't.
It´s probably nothing. Maybe they just tried to make joy more anthropomorphic but To me it touches on that toxicity of having to see everything through a happy lens, toxic positivity.
I had wondered about that, too. I took it as an early hint for Joy to accept both the blue and yellow of the memories in the first film, which I think is a different way of seeing the same interpretation as you
I just wonder why Joy and Anger didn't act like their emotions while on the hunt for Rileys self.
Joy was afraid, even angry while Anger himself was calm and tried to comfort Joy.
Those emotions represent the very emotions they portray. Joy represents joy and Anger anger so I wonder whats up with that, how it that to explain?
Just wanna clear up: it's by no means critique but a genuine question.
Omigod yes that’s a great suggestion to solve the problem I agree is there
Thanks!
Oh thank you!
I thought these emotions were more literal in the psychological sense but described informally. You look at the end of the first film and it appears that Sadness is the one in charge of her mother's brain trust. Maybe a better name for her would be empathy? As it seems from the first film that sadness was technically more competent.
Actually it does makes sense that Anxiety would have gained power through the pushing of bad experiences to the back of the mind.
4:53 yeah I mean one thing is that the emotions have emotions, I know they’re supposed to have emotions because their personified but it makes my brain hurt if I think about it too much.
Like do the emotions have their own emotions running around in their heads? Is it like emotion inception?
I honestly totally get what you mean because all I kept thinking in this movie and in the last one is that Joy seems to feel disgusted a lot to the point that it even sometimes surpasses Disgust herself. She seems grossed out by the concept of having crushes and other romantic and even maybe sexual interests whereas Disgust seems thrilled with it to the point that she has a crush on the video game character as Riley does. I do get that there is a blurred line between fear, disgust, and desire/admiration which makes sense because there is possible harm in getting involved with other people from a both bodily standpoint and social/economical standpoint.
I mean it is a movie about puberty and teenage years, so I guess the pacing and messiness could also be seen as a hit point that matches that part and pulled us in to the chaotic feeling of developing teenagers.
Joy Vs Anxiety
My first reaction when you said "thirteen" was "Oh God" lol. I would expect the crew to be a mess at that age. It seems the second movie is quite different than the first. I've seen reviews that rated the movie poorly. Part of me can't help but wonder how much of it is because the expectations of the viewer is to be soothed whereas movie two shines a light more on things that harder to see...that aren't pretty.
Yeah that's my opinion really, it's not as palatable as the first movie, but every bit as good
good video
❤I'm sorry you are hurting.❤
ITS NOT A PANIC ATTACK, ITS LITERALLY AN ANXIETY ATTACK
Oh damn, was I saying panic attack? You're absolutely correct
First is 10 second is 9, finally some1 gets it
I don’t like the idea of anxiety being treated as a “normal emotion.”
I get that but, generally, it is. Anxiety disorders are not normal but we all feel anxiety itself from time to time, like we all feel anger or sadness or anything else. Good or bad, it's a thing that people feel and we can't just get rid of it. Hopefully we can ease it when it's too much, because anxiety taking such control in this film is definitely too much, but it's still an ordinary emotion in itself
The whirlwind scene made me ugly sob in the theater bc it was way too relatable. It was very embarrassing.
you obviously never felt that thought I'm not good enough... when I heard that.... ufff...
That was the bit that hit me hardest
That intro was 3 MINUTES Long!
Well, it's labelled intro in the timestamps but it's also an overall summary review before we get going properly
Does the brain control you or are you controlling the brain? I don't know if I'm in charge of mine...
Brain, ONION!!!
Didn't like that the cool kids were so nice. In the real world the cool kids are often mean and when we replicate them we become someone we never wanted to be. Mean girls is a more realistic movie about it
In the real world, popular kids generally are popular because they are well liked/respected. That’s what this movie gets right.
They were mean to her, just not in the classic bully locker shoving sense. They made fun of her music preference and made her feel bad for enjoying the music she and her friends liked. They clearly knew she was lying about it when those friends pointed it out, but didn’t apologize.
this movie had such a MASSIVE impact on me as a 25 year old girl who’s struggled with anxiety her entire life
🧡🥹 made a video on my channel all about it.