Will Craig Jones Return For ADCC?
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Consider this, though: it would be really fun for me to watch my close personal internet friend craig jones do ADCC. Think on that one
cumtown?
I legit don't think he thought of that...
This was a message to the ADCC organisers, not to us
Exactly
Win ADCC 88kg, then be exclusive to Karate combat🔥
And absolute champ - then you take home 20k 😂😂
I agree only if the pay 25k
Smoke'em!!!
88kg.
Fuck da money!!
With Your status, ask for a karate pit only match!!
Let's face it, that's the future!!!
There's no way he's winning with Bodoni l,Tye and Hulk around
😂😂
“Despite him being 12 years old this will be his 4th ADCC” 😂 Craig has a black belt in saying the funniest shit with a straight face. 😂
"I'm a karate expert now."
It will be Nicky’s 16th ACL injury too 😅
get silver at 88kg, then karate
Best advice ever :)
Aiga winners win $1,000,000.. They split the money for 7 guys = 142 000 for each of them. How the best competition can give you only 10 000 like he said while the sport grow up.. Respect athletes !!!
Bro, i am co-organizer of aiga in Kazakhstan, at national level, not global. 1mln is all money at tournament. For the first place, they will get 500.000 dollars btw
I enjoy aiga format and quintet the best
@@Fisj thanks
@@abdulladabyl8145 ouaw...
I’m saying. The sheikh needs to fork out a lil bit more of that oil money they got. We damn well know they can afford it lmao.
Fuck the money Craig, an ADCC win would solidify you as a legend of the modern BJJ game. Do it out of respect for the fans and the sport one last time Craig. We all want to see you compete, and we all believe you can win it.
He needs to think about how many thai lady boys that “$10,000.00” prize money will buy him
He's already a legend. He invented Mexican Ground Karate and is our spokesperson for the LGBTQBJJ community.
Fuck the money feels good to say until you board your spirit flight
100% agree !
he's already a legend, and i'm thinking a lot of people have bought tickets, flo subscriptions, what have you just to see Craig compete the last two years which he got no money for.
Let’s do a gofundme for Craig to do adcc. We’ll get that number way up
100% understand your dilemma as it stands. And there will be a lot of people still pushing you to do it, but, though you didn’t mention it, I’m sure your sensitive also to the amount of physical/mental preparation that would be needed for you to participate to the best of your ability. The only thing I would think, in your position (and money aside), is that maybe you only have one good ADCC left in you, from a combination of disenchantment, physicality, ageing, etc., so, despite the money issues, just make sure you won’t look back on your career in a few years wondering “what if” when you are no longer in a position to do anything about it. Now, you know yourself and if you know that won’t be an issue, carry on - but if you have doubts…
Only way i would do a 3 month camp for 10k is just for the clicks and attention i might get if i win, odds of everything lining up are better over a weekend in Vegas
@@markoniksic3630 it's amazing how few people seem to grasp this, thank you for being sensible lol.
I genuinely thought that they’d be getting 10s of thousands in prize money… $10k is a joke.
Isn’t 10 thousand 10s of thousands?
@@rufioswitch2132 😂 like what you did there but technically it is only one 10 and 10s would imply more than one
Here's the soul of the party...@@JT-he7fw
@@rufioswitch2132 hahaha youre right! I meant 10s of 10s of thousands!
@@JT-he7fwagreed I was just messing around!
Keep speaking your mind on these subjects Craig, it's super enlightening from a fan perspective. Also, as a video director myself for Concerts and Live Events, it's very interesting to see these battles going on between FLO and UFC Fight Pass and others. Maybe the athletes themselves need to be team up with some smart people who are passionate about the sport, as opposed to those just looking to benefit from the athletes.
I think your cycle will peak at the right time. Let’s give it one more go!
speaking of though, it does suck that he didn't do 88kg in 2022 just for Izaak. i feel like he matches up better with Giancarlo than Kaynan.
That’s where loyalty will get you!
Do it Craig! Grappling fans love you and the arena would go nuts if you won. What a way to go out! You’re already a legend but a bit of an unsung hero. We all know you could blitz thru the competition
I’ll just host an open mat open bar next door
Fuck no. It is not worth it.
10k prize is pathetic. Why put reputation and your record on the line for barely any money.
@@ghagzor Maybe because Craig is widely considered one of the top grapplers in the world, maybe that's why people want to see him compete in ADCC.
@@craigjones8662 this fucking guy 😂😂😂 ah well that works too. Just saying tho, you’re already a star and it’s really not gonna affect your rep in a negative way. Might even bring more mma fans to watch. Everyone else is either a retard or boring af. All those things you mentioned that dont make it worth it don’t really apply to you tbh. You’ve pretty much transcended the sport in that regard. Even Gordon Ryan hasn’t. He’s more a conspiracy theorist than a grappler now.
@@craigjones8662you fucking called it 😂😂😂
New to BJJ. This is the first ADCC I'll watch and I hope I get to see Craig compete there
10k is a joke. I wasn’t even aware of this they should bump that number up significantly.
10k in 2024 is much less than 10k even a few years ago too
U gotta appreciate Craig’s criticism of these companies coming in and taking advantage of grapplers and his effort to ensure current and future stars are compensated as they should be. Future generations will have him to thank. He could just say fuck all these completions and go about making money other ways but instead he’s pushing more and more constantly for industrial growth
I'd love to see a P&L for one of these events. Ticket sales and viewership are obviously increasing but the production costs have certainly increased at the same time. ADCC 2019 just looked like Grappling Industries first class, ADCC 2022 actually looked like a premier event. Obviously the athletes want to be paid more but they have to understand that ADCC needs that money to pay PRIDE lady, shoot fire out of the stage and buy all of the tables for the athletes to slam into.
Ya but this is the same arena that NHL players play in. NHL players make on average 3.5 million a year, which averages to $42683 per game for an 82 game season, and there are 20 players on a team, so 40 players in an arena getting paid $42K ish each, so the players are making about $1.7 per night in an arena. Plus the coaches and other members of the teams' salaries. Obviously ticket prices are higher for hockey games, and there are sponsors lining the boards and a bunch of factors, but the gap between $1.7 million for hockey and $230600 is too large. NHL players also get travel and food paid for.
By the way I went to double check the winnings, and the absolute winner gets $40k which is nice and I didn't think that would be the case, but the superfight winner gets $40k and the superfight loser gets $10k, which seems like a huge chunk of their budget that could go to division winners.
I also thought of the comparison to UFC fighters, who all make a minimum of 10K for losing, but the vast majority make more than that, most make significantly more than that. The most recent even with reported numbers the fighters made on average $145K each and that was for 24 fighters. There are usually somewhere between 24 and 32 fighters per event getting paid a bare minimum of 10K each, and they are often in arenas way smaller than the Vegas arena.
But...no one WANTED the Pride lady. I don't want a 5 minute introduction for each athlete. Just give that extra money to the participants
@@AEB-tb3om I thought have the Pride lady was cool lol
Man says this sport is growing if they only get paid 10,000$ 😭😭 y’all need to get paid more ‼️
I have been behind-the-scenes of major events like this. I’ve been involved in concert promotions, and sports promotions. The amount of overhead that AdCC is putting into this event is crazy. You don’t even get to use the T-Mobile center for 15 minutes without showing them over $500,000 just to tour the place in the event, you might use it. I got a believe that Mo has at least $10 million already invested in this event. He is buying tracks suits for 200 kids alone to wear that are in the kids worlds. Also, Craig does not mention that everybody’s transportation and housing is taking care of for a majority of all the top grapplers. Including the kids.
I feel like this will be the last year that AdCC will still be at $10,000 for the winner. That needs to go up, but there is a shit load of overhead.
As Dana White says, the UFC is not a career, it’s an opportunity. Conor McGregor did not make very much money in prize money during his career. But he’s going to make billions in his investments with the name that he got in the ufc.
@@jasonk6321stop buying track suits for competitors and ditch the smoke machines and Pyro technics, then take those savings and pay it to athletes, fans don't care about that crap.
@@jasonk6321found the spokesperson for adcc. You can cut it however you want $10,000 is a joke especially the last few years how much it’s grown.
@@jasonk6321interesting insight.
@@jasonk6321 they don’t pay fighters cus they can get away with it not cus they can’t afford it
This is the same arena that NHL players play in. NHL players make on average 3.5 million a year, which averages to $42683 per game for an 82 game season, and there are 20 players on a team, so 40 players in an arena getting paid $42K ish each, so the players are making about $1.7 per night in an arena. Plus the coaches and other members of the teams' salaries. Obviously ticket prices are higher for hockey games, and there are sponsors lining the boards and a bunch of factors, but the gap between $1.7 million for hockey and $230600 is too large. NHL players also get travel and food paid for.
UFC fighters also fight in this same arena or smaller arenas. They all make a minimum of 10K for losing, but the vast majority make more than that, most make significantly more than that. The most recent even with reported numbers (UFC 298) the fighters made on average $145K each, and that was for 24 fighters. They made $3.498 million plus $250k in bonuses, compared to the ADCC prize pool of $230,600. There are usually somewhere between 24 and 32 fighters per UFC event getting paid a bare minimum of 10K each, and they are often in arenas way smaller than the Vegas arena, or in venues that only hold a few hundred or few thousand people. Again, UFC ticket prices are way higher, but the gap in the amount they make is large. Also, the superfight winner and loser take $50K of the prize money for ADCC, which is a large chunk that takes away from the incentive of the competing in the actual grappling world championships.
You do you. At the end of the day who lives with the consequences/benefits is you. I will always be a fan and tune in to watch you compete.
Dude looks hella Dagestani now
Please compete in ADCC. We all love watching you compete and your clearly still one of the best in the world. You underestimate how many fans you have and how bad we wanna see you when Gold. It does mean something. Whether you become famous or not doesn't matter. They can never take be achievement away from you
We need you there!!
ADCC needs a freaking kickstarter campaign WTF!! $10k is peanuts man... I train everyday non-pro and I see the work and effort of my pro team mates and man... c'mon -- not even inflation considerations. 😢
Hope you end up doing it, best of luck!
After a quick search I found IJF gives ~28,000 US dollars to Judo World Championship winners. They also give ~5,400 US dollars for many other grand slam events. They also give significant prize money for team events. The athletes also have a chance to qualify for the Olympics. Some countries will give Olympic Gold medalists a life pension.
Idk man that Lachlan Giles reasoning is pretty sound to me 🤷♂️
The two biggest career boosts from adcc have been Craig and Lachlan, who both lost, lmao. ADCC has career boost potential, but it's distinct from winning.
BJJ wasnt your calling bud, you’re natural influencer you’re a UA-camr now , social media and marketing your a world champ for sure!
Being present there keeps you relevant in the industry
Its always interesting when an athlete looks at a sport from a professional pov instead of amateur in amateur all that matters is being the best of the best regardless of anything, where with a professional sport you start looking at things from a financial pov which is why ive always respected amataur sports over professional ones
cracked me up with that karate expert and I knew it was coming 😂
This is advocating for the sport! 👏👏👏👏
2082 - back to 10k a weight category confirmed.
This is a masterclass in what grapplers need to be focusing on beyond being a world class grappler. As a creative (and professional athletes are in the same boat as professional musicians, writers, painters, etc), you have to be a masterful marketer, a skillful public speaker, and an entertaining person.
Nose beers ain’t cheap gentleman
gotta start snorting musashi instead mate
I do agree with your arguments but I think it still the best moment to be in the media and in contact with your fans, apart you gonna do other thing$ during the ADCC. If not I think it's better participate then just chill at home
I've worked in live streaming since 2008, I've watched content rights come and go... along with sports niche websites fail by spending too much money on rights... It's a wild guess on Flow's agreement with ADCC, most realistically the number is much lower and a large portion of the compensation is through revenue sharing. It's nice to hear Craig Jone's raw thoughts.
It’s not a guess
Very well said!!
Beat bodoni at 88, then point at danaher
Imagine if he finds out about McDojos that are getting more expensive and the blue belts who teach the beginners for free (I mean loyalty)..
What else would you do while all your potential competitors are off peaking for, competing at and recovering from ADCC? Twiddle your thumbs? Pick up some other sport?
Idk, if you like competing in grappling then it seems like a no brainer.
Just do what makes you happy Craig.. I'm a big fan of yours and B Team! Love the content
I would love to see you win ADCC! You are in your prime and absolutely one of the best grapplers in the world. It would be a pity to see you pass up on this opportunity.
The fans want to see you compete at that level though, might not boost your career but it would feel great to know our guy got gold
Nice hat dog !
How many nose beers does $10,000 get you? Not enough
Depends which Mother Land he's in
Well said Craig! 🔥 you are now officially karate expert 😂😂😂
Serious points with great humor.
I appreciate you being honest and how the sport is growing but you aren’t getting paid the amount you deserve but wherever choice you make we will support it
Also can I get tickets to UFC 300 please
ONE is the only promotion paying athletes good money. Change my mind.
1. Did you see their actual payouts? They pay pennies, like $1500 for a fight. 2. They never made a profit and they keep losing money. 3. From whom they received $400 million in 2020? Yakuza? No one will attempt to change your mind because you're either misinformed or insane
The che guevera of jj
It would be great to enhance the prize money to further the personal business model of the few who do this for a living.
Everyone wants him to compete and ADCC know that, so they offer peanuts while reaping all the extra revenue from the sport growth for themselves so I understand when athletes say fuck you then.
You can market an adcc loss, you can market a win. But can you market not taking part? Videos about your adcc training and preparation would be LIT AF too! I think this comming adcc is good for you as a person and for your brand.
Maybe retire at 2026 adcc.
Thanks Craig. Good shit
We need Zuckerberg on board with Mo Jassim. Let's make these prize pools worth wrassling for. Also some rule changes to the ADCC format would be cool. Make the finals a no time limit match!
Mo could up the prize pools by himself if he wanted to- he just doesn't
8:35 Every fan would get behind you Craig
Anyone know what kind of hat that is?
How do you quit adcc while getting so close to gold
I would say enjoy the moments of startdom and opportunity to participate in everything because it wont last forever. One day the calls will unfortunately stop.
we really need a Craig Jones - Gordon Ryan match
How many times will we hear the announcers say, “Ten thousand dollars on the line here.”
All I want to see is the best in the game, CJ, win the so called most important competition. I would be sooo happy to see you win. You're my spirit animal, you're the funniest. Hope I'll see you there
4:59 You unknowingly made a very smart decision looking back 😂 you set yourself up. Your just like "my mind is telling me to lose this match?!?! Why is this?"
I already knew what Craig was going to say before watching. Financially and even brand wise it doesn't make sense for him to compete.
Somewhere, Mo is watching this and probably fuming 😂 (for those who don't know: Mo presents himself as very cool but the guy's an absolute hot head)
Respect to Craig for stating this out in the open like this. The pay needs to change. It's ludicrous to imagine that the supposed "olympics" of the sport don't pay more for winning than a promotion like Enigma where Max Hanson just won $10k. At Polaris when did the women's grand prix, the prize money was $20k if I remember correctly. You never hear Craig complain about Polaris.
Reminder that Mo Jasmine said bla bla about bringing justice to SA victims,yet year after year Vagner,Cyborg and Gordon gets to participate
Mo spends millions in hairs dye...
Mo cucked gordon
And Michael Sears sold me Fentanyl
Think about it though, winning would explode your name on a new level because even though you claim second if you won first everyone would talk about it
What Craig isn’t saying about this is the time he’d have to take away from private lessons or seminars to enter a camp, for the max reward of $10k. I really think all the competitors should hold out for more money.
I doubt they will hold out cause they think they need ADCC to be considered elite…
Other thing Craig isn’t mentioning is the prize for winning absolute I think is like $40k. I believe that would be worthwhile.
But yeah each division should be at least $20k-$25k prize. And $50k-$75k for absolute.
Will you…drop the white bulls merch por favor senor Hones
Start your own league partnered with karate combat: CCDA : Craig's Çubmission Domination Absolute.
Name is for free just give me a shout-out and we'll call it even.
Ya gotta do it Craig! Win and then change named to A team just to piss of New Wave.
You were also wrecking EBI at the time, and I think historically you will be remembered as a guy who changed the sport for the better. Bodoni is freakin incredible but I think he’s looked at as a Danaher disciple. So why not just drink from the horses mouth, as they say in Aukland.
I do agree 👍
I thought it said "Will I do Acid" in the thumbnail...
Being that the Rich AF middle eastern country's run/own ADCC. You would think they would be more than willing to throw more cash at the winner? They do for everything else.
ADCC needs you Craig. Bring home that silver medal
learning self defense is a natural thing that humans learned since the beginning of time to survive. There is never going to be a ton of money to be won in competitions. Always lots of money in entertainment and drama which fits into our societal normalcy unfortunately. There is money to be made if you are able to brand yourself in one way or another.
Whats with the tali hat?
Tell Mo to go to the Pit style mats
10K is about 50 units of nose beer. Do it for the nose beers they will make you strong and smart
Do it just to fuck with Lachlan and then once you win, announce your retirement from Jiu Jitsu and transition to full time Karate athleat
So glad the next adcc isnt gonna be on Flo. Sick of them hoarding all these epic matches behind a paywall and unusable ui
Bruv your a G💯
Completely agree with you.On the other hand, ADCC does not need you at all. They are no different from the UFC, the brand is valuable. They can get fighters or competitors anywhere willing to fight for peanuts.There's no upside for you unless you're getting paid heavily to be there.
Thanks for confirming that you're going to do ADCC, Craig.
"Pillaged" brilliant
$10,000 is chicken feet. I don't think you should compete unless ADCC raises the prize money to send them a message that organisers shouldn't shortchange their competitors who are the reason people watch ADCC
Yeah the ibjjf GP pays like 40k
Fair enough brother
Please bro, do it 4 us!!!!
2:49 "and win it which we all know I'm not going to do"💀😂
An ADCC win should be a great recognition that can translate to more instructional videos and seminar sales.
"As clear an answer as I can give you."
If you consider inflation, prize actually went way down. We have a cumulative 30.3% inflation rate since 2014, in the US. To keep the same price value, it should be at least $13,027.89
We need a fighters union!
smart hat bud
IMO he’s got to do one more and come in 2nd again to truly solidify his legacy
For the glory ! Yes it does boost your career !
how would winning adcc boost craig's career? he is already one of the most famous grapplers in the world
@@fran9023 How can it not, GR is cringy and nowhere near as entertaining as CJ but he still makes way more, that is because of his victories, especially his ADCC ones!
So when will you participate, at 15.000 USD ? Or, 20.000 USD ?
I think 100k minimum is fair
Moving up a weight last adcc was such a mistake, would’ve won 88 for sure
The real prize isnt potential silver (LOL) but also will boost your instructional sales for a lot longer. Personally, I think there is a bubble with instructionals and eventually it will all be free online.