B-Team on Danaher Death Squad Split
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2023
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Guest bio: Craig Jones, Nicky Rod and Nicky Ryan, together with Ethan Crelinsten are founders of the B-Team, a legendary jiu jitsu team based in Austin, TX.
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I knew these guys were serious but dropping out of school as a freshman for jiu jitsu that's insane.
To most people, yes it seems insane but they must have known something others don't because look where are all at now...
That's the type of drive and purpose most people don't have IMO (including myself).
What I don't get is he says he's so dedicated he dropped out of high school, but he won't even get an MRI for his knee? Seems weird to me.
I mean. I'd bet you Nicky is worth more now without highschool, than he would have been with the knowledge that Manet was a painter who died from syphilis.
@@Nixcb2 he's dedicated to a fault. Nicky is highly developed in the grappling IQ, but not so much in the longevity aspect.
That or he's flat broke and actually doesn't have the money to pay for the surgery (which has to be at least 4-5k)
@@Synthetic-Rabbit That’s irrelevant. No matter who you are education is important. He still needs to develop reading and writing skills, and you can’t do that as a dropout. Let’s say Nicky wants to write his own Jiu-Jitsu book, he can’t do that with less than a 9th grade writing ability.
Learning is a lifelong endeavor, that’s why people like Kevin Garnett took college classes after signing a $126 million contract.
Let it go. My brother passed away last year and I’d trade anything in the world to speak to him one more time. Life’s too short to hold grudges.
Well then most likely in this case the "wronged" party would have to come groveling back to eat a shit sandwich from someone who's anything but humble....yeah not gonna happen
sorry for your loss, man.
Depends man. I’m the elder brother who has a better perspective on letting things go, but my youngest brother holds onto small beefs like they’re blood feuds. It fair to feel that way, but it’s sad to allow it to stay at that level FOR YEARS. Love him like a brother and son (10+ year gap)
Tell that to Gordon.
Lol, would you say the same after finding out that Gordon made nicky fucked sonny (gordon's GF) and lose his verginity AFTER he made nicky watch them have sex? Nah b.
What a crazy first question From Lex 😂
“That makes you Hitler.., uh, anyway”
There’s a story within the story that has to be incredible. Sure DDS broke up and it’ll forever change ju jitsu but two brothers also split up. I’m as interested in the Ryan split.
Exactly… I need to know the reason it’s gotta be some deep shit between them
@@dillonmalloy2123I doubt it's that deep tbh....it's simply the natural evolution of most brother relationships, when the younger brother matures and grows out of the shadow of the older brother, to become his "own man". Gordon has implied as much, and JD has said Nicky was sick of being bullied and dominated psychologically by GR.
Gordon's a bully. He was likely getting overly aggressive in training.
What happened?
@@urkput if being bigger and better constitutes as overly aggressive. Sometimes the smaller brother just feels the need to make a decision to get out of the shadow and into his own light.
When Nicky Ryan started talking about everything you can really tell just by the way Craig and Nicky Rod was looking at Nicky Ryan that they really look upon him as a younger brother. Getting the sense that Nicky Ryan has more then just 1 older brother here, which is beautiful.
Lex is so comfortable in being awkward
I love how everyone in this podcast has cauliflower ear 🤣
Nicky ryan doesnt have it that muchh
The "Cauliflower Hour" hahaha
@@jacielsuarez2368That's a really good name.😮
I remember my dad told me when I was younger. If you ever see someone with cauliflower ear. Don’t try to fight them you will lose.
I clicked on this to see why they split . The details still remain a mystery
haha exactly😂
My guess would be Gordon Ryan is an insufferable person to be around. Everyone except Danaher bailed on him, so I doubt he’s the reasonable one lol.
@@TheMuffinManIsHappy Oliver Taza and Gary stayed with John and Grodon
@@frankyturrizo4240they stayed with John. Not with Gordon. Let's make that clear
@frankyturrizo4240 my experience with Taza is that hes insufferable as well
Nicky Ryan seems really cool. I hope the brothers link back up someday.
When Craig Jones BJJ career is over I hope he goes into stand up comedy!😂 dudes hilarious and I would pay good money for to see Nicky Rods musical about the DDS split!😂 these B-team guys are all so talented. I wish them all good health and long careers I am gonna enjoy the show🤙🏼
I hope he blasts gear so he’s fully capable of rolling at like 70 years old . The level of trolling and knowledge he could achieve and implement in a roll by then would be hilarious
Peace to Craig Jones calling John Danaher Kurtz 😂
Iv never seen that movie was that a compliment or not hahah
@@drbray Cnl. Kurtz in the Film ‘Apocalypse Now’ was a colonel who went AWOL through PTSD & left the U.S. Military to start his own small army, formed of local, indigenous villagers and tribesmen. He goes on his own war, but his tribe doesn’t really side with the U.S. military or Vietcong. Basically he’s a nutcase broken by the evil actions made by the U.S. military and Vietcong respectively and decides himself to go on a rampage killing and torturing people against his tribe. Despite what I’m telling you; the film isn’t actually really about the Vietnam war at all and is more to do with good vs evil, genius vs insanity, it’s really worth a watch. Loosely based on Joseph Conrad’s heart of darkness but sent during the Vietnam war.
@@aidanlee8804 I'm taking its not a compliment then haha
@@drbray Definitely not lol. I mean what did they expect though John would be like? In all honesty though, it’s a weakness in John’s management skills. John alone could be a lot to blame for not being able to adapt his management style for different personalities. For people like Gordon and Meregali, who are both perfectionists and incredibly confident, John’s style is probably perfect. However, it’s not a one size fits all. Not everyone has bags of confidence and high self esteem. Some people need to be encouraged, some need to be humbled.
@@aidanlee8804 since you have seen the movie,does this make you believe Craig dropping a bit of a clue with this joke? You know what they say,all good jokes contain true shit haha
Craig needs to be protected at all costs
He doesn’t need protection… He IS the protection.
He refuses to use protection don't ask how I know.
@@joeargenziano5427 he left you raw didn’t he?
@@Nobody-bq7pl lol
He’s overrated
Rumors had it that one of the key issues for the split was due to splitting of the rent when big gord passed away. I’ve seen it was brought up many times in the past but it was something about the split of living expenses between those who were staying with Gordon Ryan that either created or added more issues for the team. I’m not saying it’s the truth, but I’ve heard about it more than once.
Imagine they make bank and are worried about the rent😂
@@Ecko92 at that point they werent
I bet he even greased for the podcast lol
May B-cream be always with you
He clearly slipped out of some of Lex’s questions too easily
@@greymatter8817subbed him wout roids! Too bad for a ya juiced Up boy! 😂
Craig is quick with them jokes.
Lex's spectrum moment came on strong right off the bat
Still wondering why they split.
Watching all these Lex clips with all these amazing and brilliant ppl from different walks of life makes me chuckle knowing the fact that I filled out a questionnaire to have coffee with Lex and chat!...how absurd thinking he would gain anything talking to me.. funny stuff.
I’m sure you are amazing and brilliant, these people are nothing special, they do bjj, they bleed and they will die. Don’t put athletes over your self
Of course he would. I’m sure you’ve got good things to say, my man
@Pedro Serrao Thanks buddy. I'm sure I could come up with some insight. I was more just amazed at the awesome diversity of guests he has. Have a great day!
John Danaher as cornel Kurtz 😂😂😂
Is that good or bad lol
@@drbray A highly decorated colonel that loses his mind and goes native, becoming a war god to the indigenous and traitor to the US. So…bad?
@@drbray I’m the movie, Kurtz is the bad guy
@@varunlikhite8390is it?
I think the main reason is about ego…Gordon always used to call himself, Tonon and Eddie “the seniors team” or something like that (u could always see that in gordons posts on IG). And he always referred to the other guys as “juniors team” or something like that…the JUNIORS started to be known and didn’t accept this…and it makes a lot of sense why the new team is B TEAM, ironically. Hahaha just a guess
How to do an interview and still not get on point answers. Needs a sequel!
Oh yes. The story we all wanted to hear from the source
It breaks my heart Gordon and Nicky don't speak to each other and there is anger there.
I really hope family love can defeat this anger, a Brother's Bond is a pretty special thing. Hopefully they can swallow their pride and come back together.
Yo what happened between them?
@@selfportrait8363 was over a girl 😂😂😂😂
Which Nicky lol?
@@thep4pgoat his brother
it's a shame in the eyes of all of us admirers, but to them, each are able to shine much more separately. It's not different than the Helio and Carlos faction fo the family. Then the Carlson/BTT split, then the BTT/ATT, and so forth. As long as each member are happy and successful, that's fantastic. But there's always that idealism and nostalgia of the biggest group of killers all together with a common goal....
Thanksgiving at the Ryan’s house…
Yep
I thought it was pretty well accepted that Gordon split because he didn’t want these guys sharing ownership of the new gym. So these guys then left and started their own gym
I like this theory. But why would that be so secret?
Fundamentally these guys are entertainers, and airing dirty laundry affects their bottom line. Creating negative controversy around Gordon takes money out of their pockets, so you just agree to media silence. It’s fair
@@mike8984ify Agreed about them being entertainers, disagreed about drama not being entertaining.
I think baby Gordy just got tired of being in his brother's shadow.
1. Nicky Rod looks like Paul Walker x'D. 2. This team would make a sick ass anime based on a bjj teams disbanning and reforming and then trying to takedown former team mates , possibly siblings and their Professor. 3. Where do I get these crazy ass ideas? x'D
When Craig said he backed nicky and left with Nicky, does anyone know which nickky he was referring to?
Lol it’s pretty obvious
@@Nobody-bq7pl you underestimated how dumb i am
@@thinkinting Nicky Ryan
@@SherryNiles1312 thanks man
Had that same question for at least 3 minutes lol
Oliver Taza and Gary stayed with John and Grodon . Ethan Crelistine and Damien Anderson joined B team
Dude I'm from Gloucester county New Jersey people don't know this wrestling is a hotbed out there Paulsboro stand up .. ok so I'm now a fan of Nicky let's go ..
Jersey and Pa have the best wrestling in the country imo.
@@ges8790 yeah we do brother
Honestly sad they have issues. Hope they can fix it. 💯
Why did they not mention Yoko Ono?
Nicky Rod was subbing black belts after 2 weeks of training? I know he's a wrestler but dang!
Yeh after 3+ years of training I've noticed there is definitely 1% of people who truly are incredibly gifted either technically, physically or both
Fake black belts
No shit, right? Freaking winning a silver medal after only a few months of training. At ADCC at that. Incredible. And the fact he trying to be a model had me crying hahahahaha
What size and quality of black belt? Those are important as not all black belts are created equal
@@robertacevedo5601 Considering he won a silver at ADCC which is full of killers, they were probably pretty legit.
So what happened? 😮
All we got is family
Being real, if there was a Broadway musical about the demise of the DDS I'd watch the crap out of that.
S/o to South Jersey
I swear to god man, sometimes Lex speaks too much of his mind too easily.
Craig funny af
I think we need to talk about what hairbrush in the jungle.
there lex goes again.... he never fails to bring up Stalin and Hitler. jesus christ, can't take this guy anywhere
No one matches an Australian for shit talk 😂
Ebi 14 was nuts, tho
Dang nicky is like seeing what gordan would be like without steroids
"people didn't feel comfortable." yep... that sums of some theories I have been seeing.
A dominant successful jiu-jitsu breaking up is the norm.
Does anyone think that this all can't be boiled down to "Gordon Ryan is an asshole"???
Methinks it has alot to do with john as well and not just gordon.
100%
Nicky Ryan still looks like he has been locked in a basement
What do you mean?
@@jacobbaker348 he is very white and needs some sun
It's for sure about competition and money,and selling their brands.I dont think Gordon is bad,but looking for all his "friends" teammates that then became rivalry (Kenan,now this guy's) there's definitely some money issues
Like the saying goes:
"If you meet one asshole during your day, then you met an asshole.
If everyone you meet is an asshole, then you're probably the asshole."
@@donovanb9020 wise words ☺️
I feel like they're trying to protect GR's reputation by not talking. I'd eat my socks if it wasn't some bullshit on his part.
N. Rod. Looks like he lost a ton of weight.
Its pretty...... stupid ....really.... hahahahahahahaha best line
why did they split? its the elephant in the room nobody talks about
bunch of Type A personalities locked in for a year (Pandemic)
Yeah, surely nothing bad will happen to that environment LOL
Gordon finally gave Nicky the wedgie that broke the camels back
@@upvotecomment2110 they’re lucky they weren’t locked in there with me would have been a blood bath. Sign the contract
You kind of have to read in-between the lines. Craig says he left *with* Nicky/backed him. That plus some other interviews definitely makes it seems like it was something between him and Gordon.
I doubt Danaher was really involved. Dude lives BJJ and it seems like he only acknowledges the drama insofar as he feels it will affect competitive performance.
As for the what lit the conflict who knows… I feel like in the DDS you’re either super chill or have the social IQ of an insecure middle schooler. Add in some steroids and honestly it was only a matter of time.
Probably Gordon being an absolute C*nt
I think the mystery is Gordon said to Nicky Ryan some horrible stuff to Nicky Ryan from the angle of big gord. It makes sense that they all chose nicky Ryan's side except for tonen. Tonen doesn't seem like he's really at new wave anymore
Tonnon is still at New Wave he was coaching new wave people at F2w like a month ago.
Tonon has his own academy also
@@Auditofthesouthwest His own academy is a couple of thousand miles away. Where does he live? Isn't he living in Austin?
@@wrybread I believe he goes back and fourth Chris Sodbinow is the head instructor at his gym
Crazy. What did gord say to nicky?
Lex looked infatuated with craig jones the entire time i think he has a gay crush on him
christ lex did you just call a trained killer hitler to his face
Hitler was a trained killer too, and everyone called him Hitler to his face. Or Fuhrer.
Hitler did train killers, and lots.
Normal people don’t tend to get hysterical about hitler jokes
@@dildobaggins8987 I think it is safe to say that most Jews are normal people, don't you think?
@@maartenkranendonk8954 …..I’m not following you here. Are you saying all Jews are offended by Hitler jokes?
Like a hostage video. Love it.
hope dds reunites . just imagine how unstoppable they would be
Nah. It's better for the sport they stay separate.
Two separate strains of bjj that are constantly trying to innovate.
@@donovanb9020 Danaher is the one innovating. I don’t see much out of B-Team. Hence, not a great outcome, competitively speaking, from B-team.
@Kodiak Combat Collective how so?
@Kodiak Combat Collective are saying that B Team has increased Danaher’s rate of innovation? Maybe that was a typo in your comment. Either way, Danaher’s innovation is to leapfrog people’s training to reach a goal. Case in point, Bodoni and Meregali. Their quick improvement is in direct correlation to the way Danaher teaches. That is something I’m not seeing from the B team guys. Danaher said it himself that B team is still using his system so they don’t really need him, BUT they aren’t getting any new information from him, coaching, tactics, etc. So, I disagree with your opinion of my comment being myopic.
And Danaher isn’t an infallible god…but currently he is the best Jiujitsu coach of this era. I doubt that can be disputed.
my theory is that Gordon and the rest of the team were considering Nicky as a junior since he's not consistent with his performance and Craig had an issue with it since Nicky is a legit black belt and should be respected as such by his peers.
Nicky Rod sitting there like "bruh, stop with the Hitler shit, wtf"
Whatever the reason for the split I'm sure the PEDs didn't help the situation
Nicky, ah brothers...'where there are brothers, murder is near'.
What’s up with these softball questions? Why not just ask Nicky straight up? What happened?
We need Ariel Helwani interviewing, he asks the probing questions.
@@adz123888 really jams that nose in there nice and guuud like
@@tehfuqizg0inon588 lol
Wow. Look at off cycle Nicky rod. Very small
It’s the B-Cream. The lights have a shine effect off of it.
I'm sorry but dude says he was beating black belts in his second week of training???? That's a hard one for me to believe
I'd put money he was. His years of wrestling and then as we all saw he won silver at adcc with only 18 months of training, his pedigree would put him at a grappling threat to MOST people in a month if he trained hard everyday which no shit, he did and does
If it’s Ju-Jitsu related , the falling out is most definitely not worth it ..
I'm guessing the weirdness is Gordon's chick sunny
Didn’t answer anything really
Dam it’s already been 2 years since they split..
Lex, for the love of God, please look the person in the eye when they are speaking.
Gordon loves money, not jiu jitsu
Feel like Craig is ashamed to admit his ambition or something
I don't get the vibe that he's overly ambitious, more so just concerned about money lol
It’s an Aussie thing
@@bretts8430 are Aussies ashamed to admit being ambitious?
It's a reflection of British culture. It's uncool to look like you're trying hard, and if you are people will take the piss.@@benhallo1553
@@benhallo1553 No mate, Aussies love self deprecating humour, if a bloke tells you he couldn’t fight his way to the front of the line for the next beer, chances are he fights like a chainsaw. Craigs good with the Aussie banter but look at what he does rather than what he says. Anyone that has built that skill level and created a reputation like he has clearly has ambition. It’s also totally acceptable to be taking the piss out of ur mates and he’s a master at that also.
Someone must bloody know! It's so annoying.
It's got to involve a woman or big gord in some way.
The split of the rent and alike isn't big enough to hate your brother. I know they're cooling now but there was hate present.
So did they ever make those swastika rash guards? Asking for a friend.
They call them b team bulls for a reason
lex is such a toolbox.
Craig has much respect and love for Nicky R,you can see it..took him under his wing etc
Both Nicky's are r
@@Freud_Mayweather that's a good point now fuck off lol
This was not a good interview by Lex
Now that I know Nikki Rod was a wrestler his style makes a lot more sense. He’s not the most technical guy at bjj but he’s an excellent submission grappler
I’m late to the party, but here’s my guess about what happened.
If Gordon is even half as cocky on the training mats as he his on social media, he probably couldn’t handle Nicky Ryan getting good and stealing some of his thunder. He was so desperate to be the best that he was willing to shit on his own brother in the process. It’s cool that he won ADCC 3x in a row, but it’s truly unfortunate that his own brother wasn’t there to cheer him on. My brother and I are the same age gap as Nicky and Gordon, and I’d be devastated if my brother wasn’t in my corner.
Gordon Ryan strikes me as someone who is financially successful, but it ends there.
It had sth to do with living expenses and splitting rent, this is basically confirmed🤦♂️... how ignorant and clueless ppl like you can be coming up with theories like this... get a grip of yourself man, you sound like a conspiracy theorist😅
Maybe you're talking about yourself here and projecting your own extreme insecurities onto other people but no one is gonna stop talking to their brother for damn near a year because they weren't in their corner for a match, wtf is wrong with you?
The fact that Gordon's cocky persona has hurt your fragile ego to the point where you have to come up with these kinda bizzare explanations in order to attack his character is honestly pathetic.
Multiple people who are close to Gordon and have trained with him have already come out and said that just like Danaher, his online person is nothing like he's in real life. He seems to actually be a pretty chill and humble dude behind the cameras.
Danaher was too busy chasing the lady boys in La Perla, PR instead of coaching.
Why does Nicky Ryan have a shrunken face?
The reason for split. From nicky Ryan perspective remains an unanswered question from this interview. Expected that outcome however not to be and very disappointed that you didnt press for it Lex
Bunch of whiny kids 🤣
Anyone think anyone from the B Team wins an ADCC anytime soon?
your brother is just another person.
Ok Jiu jitsu streets what’s the rumoured reason they broke up ?
The actual rumor is Gordan made Nicky fuck his girl. I’m not joking.
Also withholding steroids for petty reasons, abusive language, Gordan being the only one JD cared about, disagreements about the move to PR.
If you search around the BJJ subreddit you can find more. All rumors though. No one has talked.
You left a master jiu jitsu teacher!! All of you with less skill then Gordon Ryan and now you guys teach each other🤔 while Gordon still is learning from John.... Probably never gonna catch him.... Maybe get lucky in a match one day against him but you guys have no teacher to progress!!!
Never going to catch him? Didn't Craig pop his arm
This video was a waste of time. Didn’t explain anything.
Craig left because he’s jealous of Gordon winning all the time
Nicky Ryan using Craig as the "older brother" fill in
Honestly given the reason they split I'm glad it's not public. And no, don't bother asking me for the reason i won't reply. All I'll say is the B-team (especially Craig) kind of spell it out in a trolling way. It's very personal and could lead to possible felonies.
What hapoened ?? I DONT UNDERSTAND?
CAN YOU GIVE 1 MORE CLUE?
PEDS and a horse face looking girlfriend can make you split for your team
I know I was heart broken when dds split
Lex forgot to ask Craig how to defend from advancing ladyboys
Clickbait , wasted 15 minutes of my life thanks
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They just spinnin the same shit from like the previous 17 podcasts
Isnt craig jones actaully a jitsu sparing partner of Israel Adesanya? if it is , sounds like Adenasanya might be improving ground game constantly but we just did not have the privilege to see it during fights as he manages to keep it on the feet :)
Craig corners Alex for his fight but because of the city kick-boxing connection, I think he’s trained with Izzy a few times, doesn’t corner him or do camps though
@@aebersoldbjj okay :) thanks for the info!
I bet what happened in the jungle was they all busted a Train on Gordon's girl Nathalia