FARM UPDATE 174 CASE 9250 COMBINE & MACDON HEADER ON DEMO
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2023
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Brilliant update Andrew. Fantastic machinery too. The rolling did a good job. 🚜🚜
Axial flow combines very underrated,chopper is the best I’ve ever seen and spreads full width too.get your order in andrew
£££££££££ 😂
Another great video, brilliant to see how farming has moved on from 20 years ago since I was last involved, I do miss it. Can't wait for the next one's.
It has been a great week for your videos. It was very interesting,that Mcdon header seams very versatile. Good to see your wheat crop is finished.
Glad you enjoyed them. 👍😀
Thanks for sharing I love the Case combine I understand their very simple to use and maintain.Great footage of all the action.Thanks Andrew
They are simple, much less moving parts than most.
The Macdon headers are great especially in difficult conditions they present the crop the right way into the combine and being able to pick up laid stuff.
Thank you Andrew for letting us see how perfectly you run your farm, I must say I was very impressed with the Case a very impressive machine. If I was to choose between the case and the deere I would prefer the case. you and the team have coped with the wheat harvest very well in these testing conditions this year.
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What a set up running both combines together. Knock some ha down like that 👌🏻
That's a brilliant advert for macdon serious header
Great update Andrew thanks for posting. Well done to you and your team on getting the wheat harvest finished. That Case is certainly a great piece of equipment with the header seems to really crack on with the job thanks again.
You my guy go above and beyond to give us the best content. Thank you.
Thank you, pleased you enjoyed it.
Great video andrew, that combine doing a very impressive job, your need the header back for the baked beans. Rueben spoke more on this video than ever before. Only one beacon working when tom was rolling when he passed you. We havent seen Rhonda bring the harvest supper out yet!!
We’ve a few electrical issues to sort. Harvest supper has been in the yard up to now!
Either that combine and header comes if we can’t get a header back to fit our NH
Cheers Wardy really enjoy how you explain how everything works and a certain amount of excitement you show in what your producing look forward to the next video. 😃
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Another great blog Andrew thanks 👍
Hi Andrew
Thank you for sharing your demo of the Case Combine with us. I found it very interesting and specially your input being the end user.
It will be very interested to see which way you go when you purchase your next combine, specially with you being a long term New Holland user. It would be great to see you having a Class Combine on Demo and hear your opinion on it.
It would be great, if you put together a spreadsheet of for’s and against of the combines, (similar to what you did with the drills) with your honest conclusion of them as a end user.
Once again thank you.
I’ll maybe do something to camera at the end of harvest.
Brilliant update Andrew that combine awesome a pleasure to watch again many thanks
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Excellent, Thanks for showing us the details of the Macdon Header, a lot of technology in there! I bet your relieved to get the wheat done.
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Thanks for sharing your harvest with us Andrew Mr cool
Another interesting video.
Hi Andrew, finally finished harvesting tonight, we have a claas 580, but had a john deere with a Draper header on demo, what a brilliant machine, did a great job on our Crusoe wheat, looks like the weather is good for another 4 days, so hopefully you can get alot done
Not sure how much is ready!
Brilliant , many thanks ...
Fantastic intuitive video on the 9250, bet you were sorry to it leave, when it's time for change did you see enough to make you consider having a change of colour.
Yes but when we change, the price will be a big factor.
Great update. These combines are incredible. Awesome camera work too. You must of held your breath at times 👍🏻
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Great video again Andrew many thanks. I remember a Norfolk farm worker telling me this saying back in the late 80’s before I went off rolling the autumn drilled crops on Elveden estate near Thetford . Let a lazy man roll and a mad man harrow very true.
Spot on that!
Case combine very smart. Case tractor can’t weigh that amount you must have had your wallet in your pocket. Spring wheat spring barley and winter beans to finish harvest in Oxfordshire. Keep up the good work.
😂😂 it must of been a big pack up in that front box!!!
Great content. We appreciate your efforts. Great explanation 2 on the MacDon header functions. Neat tech.
The header is the best on the market for sure and the combine looked well thought out and quick. The narrower tracks are definitely better for keeping the width down. Ground pressure will depend on the actual contact area so a longer track helps, obviously depending on weight. Higher end sprockets would reduce the stress in turns too I’d imagine.
Overall an impressive machine 👍
Cracking update Andrew. Great team work to bring in the Wheat harvest. Lets hope the weather is kind to gather in the Barley.
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Thank you for a week of grate video and all the information you give the case looked a very good combine
Looking forward to Wednesday video 😊
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Would liked to have seen more of the combine
Thanks for showing what you did
Apologies, it would of made the video too long.
It's nice see what you been up to Andrew most off the week yes keep the video's coming take care see you mid week .
Well Andrew ive always been a Case fan and that 9250 seems to be one hell of a thing.
It went very well.
Great review of the combine, did you see the chopped straw up against the standing crop, must be some combine to chop!
Really good chopper. 👌😀
They not only chop well, but main aim is to bruise weed seeds to stop germination. Surely a win win
great update impressive header
Cracking video.
That Macdon header is impressive 👏
Impressive bit of kit that Case combine. Might the turned up for and fail of the tracks reduce the risk of planing into veg sort ground? A huge investment when you need to replace the NH. That header is very good but it is the price of a small house in some parts of the country
Price of kit is mind blowing.
Axflow is the most reliable bulletproof combine on the market
Very simple.
Good simple combine and the redekop does a good job, only downside is our 9250 does drink a lot of fuel.
I thought they do. Would you have another?
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard they are at the max for output with the single rotor in the current form. Talk of an extended rotor 9250 and a twin rotor on its way. Not sure we have run them since 84. We like the combine just not all the fuel it drinks! Would be interesting to see fuel wise it compared to the Deere. We might buy a macdon for it though.
@tagandbruce I’m going to study the publish the fuel figures so keep an eye out!
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard that will be interesting, the redekop does a good job just maybe with a fuel penalty.
I think I need a demo of that header also! Looking forward to see more of the SB next week, mines motoring on!
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I can remember trying the very first model of the axial flow combine way way back , talk about a revaluation back then , at the time I was driving a new Holland 1540 . Talk about chalk and cheese,
When I was s teenager, I remember my Dad buying his first NH from his cousin, a 3 yr old 1550s, and wondering how he was going to pay for it! Previously had 2 MF 5 somethings.
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWardwe are showing our age now 😁, mind I wonder how you pay for them today , it’s eye watering the cost of them theses days and only for a few weeks work each year . How many other industries could stand that cost for such a short period of usage time
@philhicks5818 none!
Yes brilliant TEAM effort obviously superbly managed by the waffle man. Theres alot goes on behind the scenes to pull it all together.
Looking forward to yield data and some results.
Totally a team effort.
Great video Andrew, i think Reuben really was impressed with the case 🤔🤞🤞 maybe just buy a macdon header and keep the NH running 👌🤣😎 all this new machinery is just ridiculously priced, the NH is no slouch by any standard's, Tom was pushing on with her keeping the case on her toes 👍👍😎 with the wheat done the pressure is off a bit now, well done for being patient and not just cutting at any moisture level, patience is a vertue 👌👌
We’ve only done a little bit at 15.5-16.5, rest is below 15. I had wondered about a macdon header and keeping the combine but I think it’s too old.
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard we're all getting older but there's hopefully still plenty of life left in us yet 🤣🤞🤞
@leecurry14 definitely!!
Macdon great piece of kit ,any other combine u demonstrating
I think that’ll be it u less we try an Ideal.
Great vid as always
The NH appears to be going as well as the Axial Flow I wonder what the price difference is?
It’s going well this year………up to now!
great updates ,good to see more combines any more demo combines coming up
Not at the moment.
Two combines certain eat up the acres and like you Andrew like a good drink at end of day. Did you not blow off combine to stop transfer of possible black grass seeds inter farm. Hope weather stays good for rest of harvest.
The acres done with 2 machines is great! Blackgrass is a worry with any demo machine, even a cultivator.
Brilliant update Andrew, thankyou so much for all the details on the Case combine and the macdon header. Looks like it is doing a great job! What is the advantage of using a draper header with the conveyers over a normal one?
Most of the draper headers flex which is the main advantage.
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard Thankyou for answering my query, much appreciated 👍😄
Hi Andrew would you consider a case combine next time?
Definitely but it would come down to price I think.
Is combining the most satisfying job? It looks like it is.
It is, best job ever, as long as you don’t have any breakdowns 🤣
Or flat crops!!!
We have case pumas at work 215,220 and a new shame 240 cvx. The 215 & 220 are a little over 8 tonnes the new 240 is 9.5 tonnes!! Don't know where the weight comes from or why it should be there, all added compaction and fuel usage
I really like the Puma’s,
Really interesting to see how much more output that case has over your NH. Seems like every one who has a case axial flow rate them over any thing else out there. Must be substance behind it!
The case was only just keeping up with our NH!!
Just what I thought Andrew 👍
Dad would have shaved it off another inch on his MF 515 (10ft cut) with lifters on 😁.... New Holland looks the bee's knee's.
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The header had MacDon written on it not Draper as you said. 😊
Otherwise great stuff.😊
Not sure when you’re meaning? I say it’s a Macdon numerous times inc the intro. Isn’t Draper a terminology used for all headers with a feeding belt?
The demo's give you a idea what available, but new technology is all so expensive.
That’s the problem.
Did the macdon handle the lodged wheat better than the nh auger head Andrew?
It seemed to but We didn’t have any go through the NH this year.
Great Video. Nice to see those two combines together. If possible, can you answer me some questions? We're planning to swap from 5 walker into the rotor market and vary between Case (Midrange) and New Holland (CR980/90X0) and since it will be a used pre emission Combine, there will be no demo machine.
I have read that NH handles high yielding small grains better and is easier to set than Case. Many say that with the Case machine you have to have to decide between higher losses or cleaner sample, because the single Rotor wouldn't load the sieves evenly. Basically Case shines in Corn and Beans und NH shines in small grains. But the settings looked normal to me and the Sample looked clean.
I've seen in the comments, that you said the Case could (almost) keep up with the NH but you have also tweaked the NH a bit. Would you say the Case does a similar Job in threshing and cleaning and in the endresult there is no big difference or is it rather like the NH is the better combine for european conditions? And going later into the night did you notice a performance difference between the two?
NH easy to set and we always get a good sample. Can’t comment when comparing to Case as didn’t have it long enough.
Cracking video Andrew, that Axle flow has got some technology on it hasn’t it buy just looking at the header, so which one you going for? 😂😂 the weather was horrendous here in west Cornwall on Friday very heavy rain and 55mph winds. Cracking update. 😊
All these machines are too many £££££’s!
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard yes I can imagine that mate, your probably talking half a mill for a brand new combine now. It’s a lot off money to find and get back.
We can’t justify/afford a new one, would have to be 2/3 years old I think.
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard if your only cutting around 1800/2000 acres the figures don’t add up do they it’s a lot off money, Plus one 2/3 year old is still in good nick it’ll go on for a year or two.
I am gussing the Macdon is more expensive than the NH header. Almost too complex. Another great video Andrew.
Yes, around £50k more when both are new.
Is there any grain at all left where you sprayed glyphosate, or is it just empty straw? If any grain is left, what are the policies from buyers in the UK to accept those grains? Here in Sweden we would not be allowed to sell it if the grain had been treated with glyphosate that can be detected in the ready crop.
No grain at all, just straw. We are allowed to treat crops pre harvest with glyphosate but there are various latest application timings before harvest, cereal crops it’s 7 days.
My brother has a macdon header on the combine he is driving in the USA its a 40ft works fantastic other than you have to get out the cab to change from rigid to flex. Dont forget the macdon comes in yellow too 👍 in flat corn draper headers are amazing. We could have done with one this year to save cutting half the wheat in one direction 👍How was the top dog axial flow comparing to your New Holland?
Our NH is going really well this year and both the JD and Case could only just keep up with it but the fact we had 40hp extra put in the NH 4 years ago to take it to 603 hp might have a lot to do with it. Combining in one direction is not good for the soul, I’ve done it!
I can also remember harvest's where the wheat and barley seemed to be flat to the ground on a regular basis, thank goodness technology has evolved.
You would think case and new Holland combine very similar
Case looks amazing. Is there a such a thing as ‘the best’ combine or are they all basically just the same quality with the same functionality, why would you choose, say, Claas, New Holland, Case or John Deere? Is it just what the local dealer chooses to stock or personal preference, and do they have different price points in the market?
Claas and NH have been market leaders for years and probably still are but Case and JD are gaining ground and I don’t think any of the 4 are bad machines, some have features others don’t. To me I think it would come down to price.
BY god the tractor driver is loading the trailer without the JOHN DEAR fancy computer taking charge of the tractor/trailer, impressive header on the case i can see the farm`s replacement combine me thinks, need a big piggy bank/box
Or win the lottery!!
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard If you won the lottery you would appoint a
Manerger and head for the sun and be bored to death
@robertsmith9810 😂😂😂
What was the cost difference to run the case to the new Holland?
Not sure. To work that out I need a whole load of figures for the case I don’t have access to.
SOLD!!!!
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Question: a Claas 8900/Jd x9 1100 vs. both CNH machines, who would have the edge in terms of fuel consumption, throughput, cost per ton? CNH still have a lot of catching up to do in terms of technology, grain tank size, unloading rate, separation area and comfort
No idea, sorry!
Very impressive! I didn't realise the Case is a single rotor, do they not do a twin rotor at all?
How much bigger is the rotor compared to the twin rotor?
I believe the case is direct drive not belt which saves on some belts and pulleys.
I'm surprised at the amount of track that isn't in contact with the ground and i can see the reason why for the road but you'd think that could be altered for the field, electrically or hydraulically to give a bigger footprint. I love the spout end being thinner to allow a better directed flow into the trailer.
Can the chopper incorporate a grain, seed crusher like Jake Freestone has on his JD? I can't remember what it's called but he says about it in one of last years harvest logs.
Is there much difference in out put of the two combines and by how much roughly?
Sorry for so many questions Andrew.
All the best.
Only single rotors. A lot of cost to make the track able to go all on the ground. Our Quadtrac was like it. Most unloading spouts are terrible at puttting it in the trailer. The chopper is unreal but not sure about chopping weed seeds.
@WardysWaffleAndrewWard
If it's just chopping then it won't do seeds.
Jake has some special thing on his, its bloody loud and I don't recall him showing the results. You'd have to look back at last year's harvest.
I know Jake, I’ll ring him. 👍😀
Andrew did you do tray tests on the case and the John deer if so how did they compare to your own combine
It was the one thing I didn’t do, running out of time to do the video, grain cart and help push up!
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard 👍
Is it safe to walk on the grain pile? You don't sink?
Perfectly safe, you only sink up to your ankles.
Does your combine have the Dynamic Feed Roller?
Yes.
That case 9250 is fantastic machine are you replacing your new Holland nxt season
Not sure! ££££££!
Are the Case and New Holland essentially the same machine these days Andrew? Looks like it’s the MacDon that maybe makes the difference?
Not really. Case has 1 rotor, NH 2, cabs v different and combine deals with straw differently.
New JD or Case then???
New nothing at the minute!!!!
Those macdon headers are impressive, i worked for a contractor in oz Tim sampson, he had a fleet of macdon swaffers, i got the smaller 30ft being a pommie ba#$tard!! 25kph was the speed you could swaff at! You had to keep your wits about you! Thanks andrew!
25 kph?!!!!! 😳😂
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard could only do 25k leaving long canola stubble! Also had a double belt system on the smaller header!
@RICHIE87622 👌