Do THIS To Find Better Routes!
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- A short tutorial on how to discover and create better routes using RidewithGPS.
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The Ride With GPS staff are pretty chill. Would make a good interview.
Yeah. We use to live next to their office in PDX.
Spain is amazing for bike exploration, every little village you roll into has got something old and surprising in it.
Have been doing similar planning in RwGPS lately, but you're technique is super clear. Thanks!
In europe you can try komoot which is quite popular (in bike touring mode) and use also directly OSM in ride with gps layers which is useful for viaverde etc
Using Komoot in the US too and it works fine in my limited experience using it for hiking and biking.
Plus you can see pictures of the road that people took
I've used Komoot for local girona rides and got stuck on lots of roadie routes that take the freeway and don't trust the route rating system.
recently I’ve found Komoot less helpful for route planning as its user-added content increasingly seems to flag things like “this is a nice bench” or “here there is a friendly horse” rather than actual route section highlights. That said, i still use its MTB or Touring options on the OSM map view as the starting point for planning my gravelly rides.
@@alanthomas3236 I think that's the entire purpose of highlights, to mark something you find interesting and then let others vote. There is also Komoot map layer, that adds users pictures of routes and in order to have those accepted it must show the road and sourroundings
L'estartit is worth a detour then through baix emporda ( the C31 road is quiet) towards pals. In pals the food at el pedro is good and reasonably priced - we had dinner there.
I second the recommendation for El Pedro at the top of the walled town of Pals - very pleasant
This is a cool feature. Thank you for your demonstration! 🙂
I have been needing this! Just downloaded RWGPS last week and have been having a hard time figuring it out. Great info as always! Thanks
I like using the hybrid satellite view for RWGPS as it gives me the option to see bike roads that have bike lanes(or sharrows). I usually pair that with Trailfork to see where a legal fire-road or gravel friendly trail starts & ends.
Such a thoughtful tutorial. Thanks for sharing, Russ.
Helpful video. The Greek museum and ruins in L’Escala are worth a visit. Dalí’s wife’s castle is between those towns as well and is delightful.
Thanks!
love the Federal Cafes, we visited a few when we were in Spain
Nice technique. Thanks for sharing it. I use RWGPS and will try this when going to new areas. 🙂
There is no substitute for exploring by just seeing where the tracks go. Over on the other side of the Pyrenees there are a ton of what are known as Route Forestière or F-roads - they link all the vineyards together and criss-cross the hills. They have virtually no traffic on them. Last year I got caught out by some roadworks - big sign saying route closed including cyclists. Just pulled up google maps satellite view and the tracks were easily visible - found a new route to detour the massive trench cutting the road back to the village - very gravel but so nice and quiet if seriously up and down. The euro velo routes are expanding my side of the Pyrenees.
Ride with GPS is the OG of route planning before Strava or Komoot came into the scene. The free version is good enough to use for plotting routes if you’re already somewhat familiar with the area but the paid version is one for the power users with its advanced planning tools.
The red line that shows the route should be color-coded according to different variables, which you can choose, for ex.: percentage incline, type of pavement, max car speed limit, average traffic at the time of ride, temperature increases or decreases from the norm on a certain stretch (accounting for valleys and mountain tops). It is all these factors that really help you decide on whether to take a route or not. Knowing when you are going to hit a 10% incline is very helpful, you may decide not to go that way even if total accumulated gain is the same as another softer route. Then again the softer route might have a lot of traffic at that time or just traffic too fast or pass by a particularly hot valley so it is better to tackle the 10%. A lot more info can be shown on a bike app. The job is never done.
7:03 I would have gone through the park - I typically thread together parks to get where I'm going - works in Amsterdam and to some extent in Sydney.
You should really try komoot 😊
I have. It put me on the highway a few times. I don't trust the rating system of its routes anymore.
Relying on surface rating might be treacherous wih Komoot. I guess it is a matter of getting used to and personal preference. Still I find photos on Komoot very helpfull to judge the surface. I pay for premium, so I can see official networks (euro velo, raVel, local networks etc)....
Without premium you dont see them highlighted, but actually if I wouldnt live here where I live atm...I wouldnt need this feature. In my motherland for example cycling infrastructure is almost non existent
@@_luckyluke._ euro Velo routes are free, just switch to opencycling map layer
That is a typical komoot comment. No explanation. I have tried komoot and found it limited or no better than other apps.
@@PathLessPedaledTV photos really help to finetune routes on Komoot
If you go to Begur, make sure you make it down to Sa Tuna .
Great video, I was in Girona for a week last October and went through a similar exercise using both RWGPS and Garmin Connect. I was using a new 840 and thought it was just useless for navigation. I'm sure my lack of experience with a bike computer may have had something to do with it. What is your computer of choice?
Computer of choice: My second-best smartphone. Smartphone gives you more choices of maps, bigger screen, and you probably do not need to buy any hardware.
Only real downside: less rugged in rainy or very hot conditions. And you probably need a portable battery pack or a phone with a bigger battery.
Is there a route planner that displays roads where there are dogs?
This is very informative. Do you know if it’s possible to connect routes like this in Strava?
You can't see multiple routes in strava like that. You could have them up in separate browsers and visually do it, but It's not as easy that way. You can import a route from a gpx file, but just one.
Komoot in Andalusia worked for me very well (1000+km of bike trekking). No idea why in Girona it did not work for you.
Higher concentration of roadie routes here.
Interesting methods... I make my routes in Strava, and while you can't import routes in this way, you can start with an autogenerated route on mobile and then edit on PC
You can import a route, but not more than one. And once imported, it's more than a little tricky to reshape it into something different. It is the route, rather than acting as an overlay to a new route you're creating. I also wish strava let you pull up streetview on their maps (both google and bing). :(
I use a DeLorme Gazetteer to plot my routes, most of which are entirely gravel, and often out of cell phone range. Those wonderful state-by-state atlases show every single county unpaved road in every state. They are updated every few years, and I would honestly say they are at least 98% accurate. When a Gazetteer atlas becomes old and dog-eared, I remove my most frequently referenced pages and laminate them.
So, yeah, I'm old school using paper instead of GPS. I rarely get lost, and I'm constantly discovering new routes here in the remote Ozark foothills. I enjoy "reading" my Gazetteer, and thus plotting new adventures. Get one for your home state, and maybe neighboring states as well.
I will be curious to know if there any other retro-grouches out there. I have no use for GPS. Hell, I don't even have a smart phone.
The nice thing about a route loaded on a gps is you don't have to stop at intersections to check a map or queue sheet. Earlier this week I just headed out with a vague plan in my head and no route setup. I would stop at various places to look at google maps on my phone to see where I wanted to go next, which is fine, but kind of slows me down. Another day I built a quick route and loaded it on my bike computer and just followed that like you would a gps in a car. I still took a few detours on the fly, though. Paper maps are nice because they're large and you can kind of see a lot at once, vs zooming in and out on a computer or phone to see what you need. On the other hand, computer based maps offer a lot more information than a paper map does.
@@donbarnard82 I reckon it comes down to what methodology you are comfortable with. I don't have a phone, and I'm out of cell range a lot of the time. I enjoy drifting off to sleep at night, looking at the atlas, planning future rides. I'm very low tech, but your post was interesting!
I know all the roads where I live. Keeps me riding at the mtb park
Why rely on "preexisting routs" AT ALL, if it inevitably plunges you into traffic and freeways (the roadies' heaven). Can't you just "manually" map it out within the app throught the gravel and dirt roads from start to finish?
You can, but there are various levels of "rideable" when it comes to gravel so worth looking at the beta that is out there.
I build routes for where I want to go, but for a new area where I don't know where to start, I like to look at routes others have followed. When I'm building my own, I like to use the heat maps to verify that the lines on the map actually exist and have been ridden, which isn't always true. :)
This is so awesome! I just picked up a RWGPS subscription and have been wanting to play around.
Any pros/cons of using your phone app vs dedicated bike GPS?
Thanks!