Collisione J Class Superyacht Challenge Antigua
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Gli yacht di classe J "Topaz" e "Svea" si sono scontrati il primo giorno del Superyacht Challenge Antigua
Il primo giorno della Superyacht Challenge Antigua (12 marzo), gli yacht di classe J 42,6 m Topazio e 43,6 m Svea si sono scontrati negli ultimi minuti che hanno portato alla prima gara. Questo evento estremamente sfortunato ha costretto entrambi gli yacht a ritirarsi dalla gara dopo aver subito danni a seguito della collisione.
L'Associazione J-Class ha rilasciato una dichiarazione dopo l'incidente. “Durante gli ultimi minuti che hanno portato all'inizio della gara uno per la Classe J alla regata Superyacht Challenge Antigua si è verificata una collisione tra Svea e Topaz.
“Entrambe le barche hanno subito danni e si sono immediatamente ritirate dalle regate. Due membri dell'equipaggio hanno ricevuto cure mediche. Né Svea né Topaz sono in grado di prendere parte alla regata dell'Antigua Superyacht Challenge ”.Un video tratto da uno yacht vicino, che ora circola su vari canali di social media, ha catturato il momento in cui Svea ha montato la poppa di Topaz , costringendo un membro dell'equipaggio a bordo.
Opulence, beauty, wonderful lines and money. Yet us poor folk love to watch. STUNNING.
What happened to the guy that was hit and thrown into the water. It looked like he got hit directly.
I believe he had 4 or 5 broken ribs but otherwise physically ok.
Incredibile! Capirei se non l’avesse potuto vedere ma questo è negligenza doppia. per fortuna, l’urto allo strallo non ha abbattuto l’albero.
Infatti non sembra reale
Crazy stuff. Simple port starboard rule, very poor helmsman. He should have been going berserk for information from his crew. His crew should have been attentive and feeding him non stop information.....
Beyond all that.. I do hope the crew member that went ass over teakettle overboard was ok and not badly hurt.
per fortuna non ci sono stati feriti molto gravi
@@SailingITA gracias
@@markblundell9461 thats italian buddy :D
@@vallsz thanks. I was guessing.
I agree. Amazing how much can be said about 20 seconds worth of crashing. The action starts at 0:42 and ends around 1:08. Here goes my analysis. Rip it apart!
The boat doing the crashing, Svea, was on Port tack and should have given way to Topaz on Starboard tack, in this case. Notice that, on our boat doing the filming, there were TWO GUYS standing, watching, one on the midship port rail, the other on the bow, giving signals to our helmsman as to what was ahead. The SVEA helmsman can't see through his black sails so he has to rely on his crew to tell him what is going on every second. YOU'D THINK that on these boats that are mega-expensive the skipper would ALWAYS know where he was going and what was happening around him. At 0:42 look at the bow of the NPC ("non-player character") boat on the left: there's a guy standing right on the bow; watching. At 0:45 you can see a guy on Topaz, on bow watch, dead ahead of us as well as the two guys on our boat, hands outstretched showing our skipper that there is a boat ahead on a straight course proceeding to the left. They are pros; those guys get the big bucks ;-) At 0:52 to 0:57 watch our skipper look to his left twice because he could see the pending crash developing. You can see one of the bow watch crew on SVEA hustling back toward the stern to avoid getting killed; he knows what's about to happen. At 1:03 there is no reason the SVEA skipper couldn't see Topaz ahead and beared off to starboard unless: 1) He was steering from the extreme low starboard rail of his boat where he MAYBE wouldn't be able to see what's ahead to port due to the sails in his line of sight or 2) His crew were asleep or 3) both. BUT, the crews on BOTH boats should have been screaming their bloody heads off "STARBOARD!!" at the SVEA skipper who then could have had Plenty Of Time (2 or 3 seconds) to react and bear off just slightly to avoid the stern of TOPAZ and at the same time avoiding our parallel course boat to his starboard (although it looks like SVEA had "mast abeam" of our boat so he could have steered into us and forced us to bear off to starboard unless we couldn't due to some obstruction; a legal maneuver). At the end of the day, the Topaz skipper could have avoided the crash by jamming his wheel hard over to port; that would have put his stern to starboard just enough so that SVEA could have slipped by on Topaz's port side, ever so closely. But he didn't, maybe he figured SVEA would bear off to starboard at the last millisecond.
I can't believe this crash happened. It's easy for me to say; Monday morning quarterback. And we can't see the "big picture". But if I were the owner of SVEA, I'd be looking for a new skipper. Or the Skip better have a REAL GOOD EXCUSE, Like: "Aliens blinded me!" or "I saw Elvis!". Love to hear what he had to say! Anybody else have opinions?
My Dad crewed as cook on a J class of Tommy Sopwith , many of the finest sailors in the World from Tollesbury and Mersea Essex !
Is the guy that fall of the boat ok?
the boy is fine
@@SailingITA 👍
😯
Un contacto totalmente evitable responsabilidad de ambos.
El barco amurado a estribor infringe la 16.1, y también la 14 porque su maniobra aun teniendo la intención de evitar el contacto no es la correcta que debería ser derivar en vez de orzar. Se debe maniobrar en forma marinera.
Es muy probable que un CP solo vea la 10, e inclusive opinar que el barco amurado a estribor no tiene manera de evitarlo (siempre lo hacen). Esto es porque por lo general no tienen la necesaria experiencia maniobrando un velero cuando se ponen a juzgar, muy malo para el deporte.
En estas situaciones de cruce cuando el contacto será entre el través y la proa ambos deben orzar y cuando como en este caso entre el través y la popa ambos deben derivar. Esta es la forma marinera y pueden ver una excelente explicación por el Dr. Manfred Curry en su libro Regatas de Yates publicado en 1953.
Esto debe estar sabido y comprendido por quien gobierna el bote, no existen excusas como sentido común o temor al contacto hacerlo en forma marinera comprende saber lo que se debe hacer en cada situación y luego hacerlo con decisión y presteza.
El barco amuras a babor infringe 10y 14 el barco amurado a estribor infringe 16.1 y 14, ambos deben retirarse.
I had one or two close shaves racing Fleurtje in Antigua Race Week. Common sense may tell you, despite the fact you may have right of way, trying to luff 500tons of steel is not a good idea.
What year was that?
Ciao Tom
Il 13 Marzo del 2020 ad Antigua
@@SailingITA Thanks. So sad to see. Most beautiful sailboats.
Molto triste😢...per una negligenza del timoniere poteva finire molto male
Ops!
This was so avoidable that it makes me cringe every time I have seen this clip. The yacht from which it was filmed is on port tack and therefore has to give way to any yacht on starboard tack and had two crew members placed to call out crossing clearances to the helm, there was one at the bow and another at the stays, because to all intents and purposes the helm is blind to what is happening to leeward. I cannot see anyone similarly placed at the bow of the other yacht on port tack that was involved in the collision. To complicate matters, the other yacht that was on starboard tack decides to go about onto port tack. Yachts steer from the stern and that decision just drove the stern of the yacht hard into the oncoming yacht on port tack. Yes, it was a clear failure of the port/starboard rule but that decision to tack was not the best in the circumstances. Both yachts were extremely lucky to get away with the damage they incurred.
hai perfettamente ragione !
Top class analysis. Maybe the helmsman on the starboard tack realised he had an emergency and tried to get clear - he would have seen there was no bowman on lookout and he hadn’t eye contact with the other skipper. Hard to believe that anyone sailing in a class like that wouldn’t know a rule that dinghy sailors know.
@@Barnagh1 John, thank you for the compliment. These yachts have enormous inertia (they weigh well over the 100 tonne mark from an imperfect memory) and I don't think the helm of Topaz (I think that was the yacht on starboard) actually saw Svea until it was too late. Without seeing the relative positions from Topaz, so I might well be wrong here, the better decision would have been to put the helm down and try to swing the stern out of the path of Svea but I think panic took over. If I have gotten the names of the yachts mixed up I apologise profusely.
@@peterlovett5841 thank you. Looking at it again, I think you are totally correct, he might have turned to port if he had enough wind. I’ve never sailed a yacht that heavy, a six ton Westerley is all I know a little about!
@@Barnagh1 When 135 Ft small sailing boat is crossing your bow - it is really difficult to see him......... On that level of competition " mistakes " like this simply can not happen......
Even dream team on GK wouldn't do such mistake.....
thats some pricey error
Also dear
@@SailingITA with so much sail m2 and how long these boat are there are not made for multi boat close racing at best match racing , this is a miracle nobody was injured
Unfortunately in the multi boat racing happens to cross!!!
Putting any music to this footage is so damned irritating! 😡
why ?
@@SailingITA This is one of those 'If you have to ask you wouldn't understand' situations.
@@SailingITA The music was great! Not only great, but perfect for the situation! Like the theme from "Jaws"! LOL
Grazie mille
@@SailingITA You're welcome! My Pleasure!
hard to think Topaz didn't lose the mast, Svea took out their backstay, Topaz was tacking so the runners would have been off-yikes !
There is another clip showing this collision and the immediate aftermath. The crew on the yacht from which the collision is filmed immediately got the non-professional crew below decks as they knew that if the mast did come out of the yacht who collided with the other it was going to fall towards them. Thankfully it was not that windy and the loads on the rigging were able to be taken by the mast. I dread to think what the damages bill would have been had a spar been taken out.
Music is terrible
I.m sorry but this sailor daid in this accident. Maybe its better that youtube dont show this anymore. Thank you.