Pete Rose & Bud Harrelson Brawl, 1973 NLCS!
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Bud Harrelson & Pete Rose have their famous altercation after the New York Mets turned a double play to end the inning! The Mets would go on to beat the Cincinnati Reds for the 1973 National League Pennant!
Bud Harrelson was an extremely tough ball player and one of my favorite players.
Mine too. I was watching that game that day as a 15 year old. hard to believe it's been almost 50 years.
SO WAS ROSE -- GREAT BALLPLAYER BUT PRETTY MUCH A DIPSHIT ARROGANT FRUITCAKE TOO - HARRELSON WAS A GOOD GUY
Rest in peace Bud. You’re an all time great Met.
That's why I looked up this video. I just saw the news. R.I.P. Bud
I was at that game, was 13 at the time. The whole thing was just surreal.
I was keeping score, and after I jotted down the 3 6 3 double play, I looked up and things were going crazy. After the fight was over, a huge cloud of dust from the infield was just hovering over the playing field for what seemed like forever.
When Rose took his position in LF, fans out that way were throwing things at him. The Mets sent a contingent of Yogi Berra, Tom Seaver, Willie Mays, Rusty Staub and maybe Cleon Jones out to LF to plead with the fans to stop. The Mets had a huge lead by that time and the last thing they needed was to forfeit that game.
What a day that was!
I was also blessed to attend game 5 of the nlcs as well as game 4 of the world series vs Oakland . Mets won all 3 postseason games i attended.
was this columbus day in 1973, a monday?
@@jamessollazzo4860 Yes, it was.
I too was at the game with my dad. I am a couple of years older than you. My recollection, such as it is, is that all we saw were some ants on the field running around. We were so high in the nose-bleed seats, my dad could have used a jet's exhaust to light his cigar (I don't recall if he actually smoked at the game).
there was a high school football game in rockland county, ny for first place that day that took presence over this mets game.
tz vs north rockland. drew the larget crowd in tz history because everybody was off for columbus day in those years, but everyone had transistor radios listening to the ball game.@@bikeny
I saw an interview done years after the fight and Pete Rose and Joe Morgan both said that they agreed ahead of time that it would be Morgan that would start a fight with Harrelson, but Morgan did not get on base up to that point. They also talked about a regular season game that year where Johnny Bench admitted he intentionally hit Harrelson in the back of the head with a ball as he ran to first. There was lots of ill will between the two teams for each other.
Back when winning was first and money was second
The average MLB player in 1973 made 20x the average wage. If money was second in 1973 then at what multiple of the average wage does a MLB player have to get paid for money to come first?
Right, grumpy old man, If the owners, back then announced we refuse to play all the players, all the players would play for nothing😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 ok well you just sound like a complete retard. Try not to do that as often, if you can. Good luck out there, lil buddy!
How about putting up a video that actually shows the incident?
I remember where I was when the ball got past Buckner, and recognizing Bud Harrelson coming down the 3rd base line with Ray Knight 23 ( coach) Bud Harrelson, a memory frozen in triumph. RIP
One of my first baseball memories.
met Bud Harrelson last night at a Long Island Ducks game. cool ass guy!
Long Island Ducks always remind me of the Minor league EHL team that played in the Commack Arena
Yup and he actually lived in East Northport on LI where I grew up. Came to speak at Larkfield Little League. At the time I was very little and never heard of him. It was long after this brawl 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Very cool time to be a baseball fan
Harrelson called him a blankety blank. Pete's comeback was "I didn't know you knew me that well."🤣
Let's have a talk, son.
Rose was short, but compact, powerfully built, and had 40 pounds on Bud, who was a stringbean.
There was never any doubt of the outcome of that matchup.
Pete Rose acted like an 8-year old school yard bully.
All this because of a harmless offhand comment Buddy made after Game 2.
I doubt Pete would have fared so well against Grote or Rusty.
Exactly. Rusty would have pummeled Rose any day all day. Let's Go Mets ⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾
I remember thinking, what's the idea, going after Buddy? Go pick on someone your own size, you coward!
I remember that game as a kid
Hammer Milner was like
"WTF is goin' on"?
Give John credit
-he ran right in there.
I agree, there will never be a ball player like him. Those Reds were very intimidating in the early and mid 70's.
Bud Harrelson was a very tough baseball player.
But horrible manager.
He was tough and he's the one who started it - first by his mouth then he put himself in an awkward position - Pete gave him something not to talk about-
First baseball game for me...they were all baseball..not like today...remember the game being stopped because of things being thrown on the field including batteries from the transistor radios fans carried..,. The Say Hey Kid came out to cool things down....good times to be a fan
Morgan and Rose had already decided that if either of them got to second they were gonna bust up Harrelson. Rose happened get there before Morgan.
Not courageous of Pete to take on one of the littlest guys in the National League.
meh ... idk ..... after Bud threw to first, he turned back to Pete and called him a 'no good motherf---er' .... by Bud's own admission .... I may have popped him too, if he called me that ;)
Fuck around find out. Little guys would never stop talking mad shit if the big guys didn’t keep them in check.
@@deventazz8018 STFU. Keyboard tough guy. Typical Trump idiot.
@@sketchyold whats trump got 2 do with it?please tell me.
@@sketchyold Typical Trump idiot? 😂Elaborate or stfu.
I have this video. History of the New York Mets.
Pete probably made a bet on his team winning that day and felt that he would be assured of winning if he got Harrelson out of the game.
Great stretch by Milner.
Great DP.
Tv seemed clearer to me back then. How the heck did we see anything. No wonder going to the game back then was so much better.
Pete was frustrated that the Mets were taking the series
Real brave going after the smallest guy on the team, Pete. The best revenge was an 82-79 team going on to eliminate the vaunted Big Red Machine.
And the Mets never winning a World Series, besides one in the mid 80s while the reds won multiple. Not even the best team in your city 😂😂
@@ryank6557 I don't take history lessons from someone who can't even get their facts straight. The Mets have won two world series in 50 years as a franchise. (Or 4 percent of their seasons if you prefer percentages) The Reds have won five in 138 years as a franchise. (Or 3.6 percent of their seasons) Neither negates that the disgraced Pete Rose picked a fight with the smallest guy on the team, and it didn't help fire up the Reds. They lost anyway, to a very mediocre team.
Mets had good pitchers. They knew they had to pitch well they watched Bud Harrelson hit all year. The Cards started out 5-20 and finished 81-81. Just think a 7-18 start and they might have been division champs
@Mr. MERCEDES 95 the Mets are nothing compared to the reds all time franchise wise. 5 rings > 2. And the Mets have had some of, if not the worst teams ever
@Mr. MERCEDES 95 yeah yeah yeah, as aren’t half the teams in baseball. Who cares get used to seeing the typical like 6 teams in it every year. dodgers Red Sox Yankees etc. that’s why baseball is dying and nobody cares about it anymore. Small markets can’t compete
Pete had a wager on the fight.
Pete was really pissed off. It probably still pisses him off.
Good, I hope it sticks in his craw til the day he dies - what an asshole.
Rose and Dykstra played baseball like their life depended on it.
16 seasons with over 200 hits. He da bess.
Pete must've had money on that game.
G Melford Pete never bet when he was a player. And he always bet on his team when he was a manager
Was Pete Rose gambling in 1973?
The last part of the brawl was actually the best part. You should show the whole brawl. At the end of the brawl, someone on the Mets got sucker punched, and all HELL broke loose.
I remember the reds losing this series and the mets had won like 82 games and the reds won like 100 games lol mets went on to play Oakland in the world series
Records have little to do with how they're gong to perform...........like the 1990 Reds sweeping the mighty A's in the WS
+Donnelly1972 I believe Matlack, the pitcher in game 7, pitched extremely well down the stretch. Perhaps Yogi's thinking was I will take my chances with Seaver & Matlack to capture one game. Now George Stone had a career year in 1973. He was the game 4 starter against the Reds in the NLCS. Mets' bats also went cold over the last games as well. Mets scored 10 runs in game 2 and 6 runs in game 4 but didn't do much else in the other 5 games.
"Mets went on to play Oakland in the world series" and lost.
I remember it well also anthony. I was 13 at the time living in New York and harrelson was my favorite.so glad they spanked the reds. Those 70s Oakland athletics were a good team. Ps. I got groties autograph as an 11 year old at Shea in 71
What were the odds Pete Rose was going to have a fight that day? I bet he knew...
Enough gambling jokes about Pete Rose. Lol
"He lifted me up and laid me down to sleep."
lol...Rose was built like a little tank back then. Awesome player.
I guess it was Joe Nuxhall on the call with Al Michaels on Reds radio since Marty Brennaman came in 1974.
Anyone that compares MATSUI to PETE ROSE should NOT be allowed to watch baseball!!
Thug Pete at it again...
Charlie Hustle would have sex with his own mother in a outhouse to win a Nickle the son of a bitch!
Rose was my favorite baseball player back then. I had sort of seen the fight. But as I aged, I saw this as indicative of whom he was and his problems.
Playing hard … we should aspire to. Betting and hurting others … you don’t get medals for that.
this is why my idol will always be johnny bench.
They were drinking beers TOGETHER after the game 😂😂😂😂. FACT.
GREAT to hear the IMMORTAL Bob Murphy again ❤.
They may of beaten the reds but they made a drastic mistake putting a 42 year old Willie Mays in centerfield in the WS.
Pete laid him down to sleep. Best quote ever!!!
During batting practice before Game 3,
Joe Morgan was harrasing and threating Bud Harrelson
around the cage.
Rusty Staub, former teamate of Morgan, stepped in and told Morgan to cut it out.
Surprising and juvenile behavior from Little Joe,
whom I always considered a consumate professional.
they were choke jobs in those days, it wasn't until 1975 that they tasted the champagne, so they had to grow up a little bit
Never knew that. Thanks for it.
@@Brooklyn3955 Just to expand.
Matlack shut the Reds out in Game 2.
Bud commented to the media that the Reds offense looked like he did.
In other words, Bud was self-deprecating about his weak hitting and dinging Cincy.
The Reds, with a proud lineup of Hall Of Famers and All Stars, did not take kindly to
Bud's remarks.
Rose and Morgan in particular were fuming, and hatched plans to take Bud out.
Doesn't sound like something Morgan would do. He always seemed very professional and classy.
Hang around guys like PR and thats what happens.@georgevincent1834
Where is the full video of this game? It must exist.
When Rose went to play left field after order was restored, fans were throwing all kinds of stuff at him to the point Sparky Anderson pulled his team off the field. Yogi Berra, Rusty Staub, and Willie Mays had to walk out there and tell the fans to calm down! Rose was and still is a jerk, but the man could play.
How is he still a jerk today?? Just curious
@@spooky6936 There was no need to attack Harrelson the way he did, and he still is not truly remorseful for his gambling. I will give him this, however. If we are going to let all the cheating Astros back in for what they did in '17, Rose needs to be in as well.
that first voice - Anyone played P.T ?
I went to the next game at Shea and the Mets had a chance to close out the series, but Pete Rose hit a home run in extra innings. I was young and I was just upset that the Mets lost, but I remember my father and others saying, "Effin' Pete Rose!"
Always a great player and deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
Pete was a drama queen. HOF rightfully scoffs at him.
@David Burkholder
Jesus saves. Pete gambled. I'm sure they'll work it out. Meanwhile, rules are rules. You talking about mortal forgiveness versus eternal salvation. It's night and day.Would you let your kid break the rules? Would you expect him to be disallowed from participation if he did?
Or are you going to be one of those parents and let him off easy?
I think Rose will get into HOF posthumously. They're not going to give him the satisfaction while he is in the physical realm. Yep, they will wait until he's burning in hell for being a douché nozzle.
@David Burkholder It's not above my understanding. Do you understand the concept of boundaries, i.e. rules? Sounds like you struggle with that concept.
@David Burkholder
* Crickets *
HOF is irrelevant compared to the record for the most hits. Give me the record, you can have the HOF.
Pete Rose started this fight with his dirty slide and cheap shot on Bud Harrelson. Harrelson made a comment about the Reds hitting as badly as him, after Jon Matlack shut them out 5-0 on 2 hits in game 2 in Cincinnati. Rose, being the pompous and arrogant son of a bitch that he is, took offense to this comment and vowed to take Harrelson out on the base paths.
The camera's on the first baseman while a fight starts at second. Great.
Because the cameraman is supposed to know a fight's going to break out and therefore should ignore the ball?
What?
EyeLean5280 no, the camera man is supposed to see a fight break out on the field and say to himself "gee, that's kind of noteworthy. Maybe the fans at home would be interested in it. Oh I know, I'll point my goddamn camera at it!"
Craig Stallone Ha ha! You are very quick to harshly judge other people trying to do their jobs. I imagine you are very difficult to work with.
Ha ha! My partner at work doesn't seem to think so.
Craig Stallone Well then, you must be much pleasanter in real life than online. A very common phenomenon.
i seen are saw it on NBC live the fans were tossin stuff at Reds n play was stop and umpires were almost forfeit but thanks to Yogi berra n willie Mays pleadin Fans stop throwin bottles game went on.....why can't we have the whole game shown on you tube as happen NBC feed!
That is correct. Mays raising his arms as he walked the 3rd base line. Game was getting very close to being forfeited. Bottles continued to be thrown.
I grew up in NY around this time, but hated the Mets, LOL. I always thought Bud Harrelson was the Barney Fife of baseball and was glad when Pete Rose went pushed him around. That's how you think when you're a kid. Now that I'm old, I think Rose was kind of a jerk here. Still, I enjoyed this when it happened. I saw it live (on TV).
Amazingly, neither player was thrown out of the game. That wouldn't float in today's game!
I am a big Met fan, At 9 years old when i saw this, i hated Pete Rose. Every time he came up to bat i couldn't stand him., At 48 years old, Pete Rose was the best ball player i ever saw.
The truth is that after Harrelson threw the ball to first, he turned back to Pete and called him a 'no good mot-herf-cker' .... and Pete responded by hitting him .... true story
@groofoot: Yeah, and from what Bud said, I guess Pete had knocked Bud unconscious with a shot to Bud's eye!
same with me at 6.every rose card from a pack of baseball cards i got from mr.softee,i put in my spokes..lol
And for those that don't know. It took the Phillies to acquire Pete Rose to lead them to their only World Series Championship in their history till recent years.
Pete is the greatest baseball competitor of all time. Charlie Hustle
Ken Arthur~Jim Abbott rates better than Rose. Just sayin.
Pete was not used to a player standing up to his "hustle". When pete got the best of others, they weren't looking and/or didn't expect it. When the smaller Harrelson stood up to him, Pete didn't know what to do.
pete rose put everything he had into the game! the greatest ball player ive ever seen! matsui is a weasel! be serious!
Nick Viola hey fuck you and rose he doesn't deserve to get in the baseball hall of fame fuck him that mommy fucking bitch
Anyone who had played the game knows that these are common things among some players. Besides that was Pete Rose's style, the guy was a little nuts.
Who the hell do you think Rose was, Dave Winfield? Rose is a short guy, too, compared to a helluva lot of guys in the league. And Harrelson is a man, so he has to take it like a man. If he was big enough to play the game, he was big enough to take a licking. And both guys are listed at 5' 11". Pete was just a bit stouter. It's not like we're talking Jose Canseco and Rod Carew.
Moral of the story here is, don't talk shyt about your opponent and you won't be targeted. End of Story...
Buahhhhh ...yup and the Mets beat the punks.
This was known as “ putting up your dukes “ back then
Well, I would have Billy Martin as the manager. He would kick the crap out of Pete Rose if Rose got stupid with Billy. Then, a guy like Joe Torre to be the in between and keep things cool. But, believe me, Rose would run from Billy!
Rose was a scrapper, would never run from a fight.
The fight that blew the Mideast war off the front pages of the NY Times.
Rose is lucky that George " the Stork" Theodore did not come to Buddy's rescue. Between the stork & rusty Pete would have had such a scolding....
lol I remember that guy George Theodore wow wasn't he sorta a goon player ?
He was not a goon player. He was very thin and tall. He was a bit of an oddball in a fun sort of way.
So the Reds got mad at a comment by Bud Harrelson? My aren't we testy?
after the fight every year when ever his team comes to mets to play we booed him and throw stuff at him
Yes, I remember. He definitely deserved it.
Rose is still a piece of shit.
you don't remember shit, you pansy !
Well that was a dumb thing to do.You should not throw stuff at anyone.You should of had a little more class.
Met fans cheered him the night at Shea when he set the NL modern day hitting streak record in 1978 at 38 games. It was his 2nd AB in the game.
......I suppose Rose could have found a smaller player to go after......no probably not....
He had 10 thousand on the fight.
Don't bet against Charlie Hustle!....no pun intended!
pete rose is a winner
He knew how to win that's what made him so great.
Man, and that was nothing compared to what Hal McRae was doing to guys.
I read that the only reason Pete hit Bud was because Bud called him a C%^*sucker. He said,Bud's sunglasses are what cut him, not a punch by Rose! Pete was playing like he always did, with everything he had!
Rose is a liar and a disgrace……….God bless you Buddy
Bud Harrelson=badass
Rose was a fighter and a competitor for the Reds, but he also had a short fuse. I think he got frustrated with all the double plays Harrelson was turning and went off the edge. I remember, as a Reds fan, being embarrassed by the needless altercation, since Harrelson was just playing solid, defensive baseball.
AGREE -- ROSE WAS A GREAT PLAYER BUT HE WAS ALSO A CUCKOO DIPSHIT -- SPACE CADET ON DRUGS MUCH OF THE TIME -- PRETTY LOW IQ ACTUALLY
Rose was always trying to prove he was macho. Pick on real tough guys like Eddie mathews, Mike Shannon, or Hank Bauer , back in the day
Just three of many.
Say what you want about Rose, but nobody played harder than Charlie Hustle
Tim Holt fuck him
Bud harrelson ate baseballs before games
Got Pete Go!
I'm here because Joey Diaz told a story
See alot of those guys did ya ?
I was at that game with my dad .Saw the whole thing...When the Reds took the field people were throwing stuff at Pete Rose.. sore loser..He tried to knock Bud Harrelson down so he couldn't make the play ..Bad sportsmanship ..
Yes, I was there too and saw it exactly the same way.
He slid to take him out at second base, wake up and smell the napalm, dipshit. its done thousands of times before and since, quit cryin !
I was there and Bud got his ass beat
chris the vancura are you kidding me?
You were at that game?
That was back in 1974!,,I remember that also we lived near Shea stadium.
I was 12 years old!
TT DE NADA ABBA it was 1973. I was at that game.
Ichiro was a better match for Rose, Ichiro likely would have surpassed Rose's hits record IF he had been able to be drafted or signed to MLB after HS.
That's Right! Ichiro now has over 100 More Hits Lifetime than Pete Rose if you add his years in Japan to his MLB Stats. Also in his 9 years in Japan Ichiro has won 7 Gold Gloves. IMPRESSIVE!
Jerry Grote would've been the matchup for Pete
Pete woulda lost too much money on that one.
Pete for Life!
@0:30 look at that cloud of dust man , Pete Rose was a fucking Bull ................
Dust up
enough of bud, let's se the brawl, y'all
Matsui is one of the GREATEST hitters of All-Time, and a great all round baseball player. Counting his hits in MLB in Japan+ his stateside hits he clocked out with 3,980 regular season hits. 'GODZILLA' is one of the most under-rated guys to play in the big leaugues EVER because no one in the USA pays attention to the Japanese leagues. The Japanese leagues are just as competitive and the pitchers also throw 95 MPH.
I guess that's why they won back-to-back world series in 75' and 76'. Your right - terrible!
Never liked Pete Rose after this. Going after the smallest player. Like a school yard bully 😡
Lets have a talk son. ;-P
Pete is from the west side of Cincinnati, enough said if you're from this area, which I take it you aren't. He would have beat the piss out of either Staub or Jerry. Really, he would have, trust me on this.
Pete rose was the best dirty player there was both on and off the field. But he still belongs in the HOF
Ty Cobb just entered the chat...
Martin and Rose probably would have been on the same page gamewise. But they would have done their drinking in different bars. Martin was absolutely the best game time manager as far as I'm concerned. An excellent teacher of fundamental baseball as well. Billy's problem was he just couldn't keep it there. And yep, his move on Jackson in '77 was EXACTLY what he should have done. RIP Billy Martin, beloved by millions.
Bud and Pete were the same height but Pete weighed more. Bud was little bit like Larry Bowa who was smaller than him but a pain. I didn't see any sympathy for him.
Not too brave for Rose to take on a little guy like Harrelson. Not too smart of Harrelson to throw that 1st punch at Rose.
What you NIMRODS don't understand and will NEVER understand is that Pete Rose was a LION. Can you imagine if Pete Rose and Ty Cobb were on the SAME TEAM/SAME ERA?? Every game would have been FOUGHT TO THE DEATH!! 👊
Boy pete hates the Mets
For being a" singles hitter with a long career"? WTF!! REALLY??
I say his 746 doubles 130 triples 160 homeruns proves YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!! Over 1,000 extra base hits must not count... BTW LONGEVITY IS THE RAREST ABILITY IN ANY SPORT, The longer the career the more difficult it becomes to maintain career averages.
.303 lifetime batting average for a VERY LONG CAREER, and you say everyone on the LIST is BETTER THAN CHARLIE HUSTLE? You should be arrested.lol
+Albert Archer Roughly 75% of his hits were singles. If that doesn't make him a "singles hitter" than I have no clue what the fuck does.
+wyssmaster Your right about not having a clue....ROUGHLY 90% of ALL HITS ARE SINGLES. So 75% is 15% BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE....HOWS THAT FOR A CLUE EINSTEIN?
Albert Archer
Hmm, that doesn't sound true. I wonder where you did your research?
Just last year, there were roughly 14,000 extra base hits in baseball, out of a total ~42,000 hits. That's roughly 1/3 or 33% of all hits in baseball, which would mean that 66% of all hits last year were singles. That's a far cry from 90%!
baseball-reference has stats going back to the 1870s, going over all of the professional leagues. According to them, there have been a total of 1,049,901 extra base hits over the history of professional baseball, out of a total 3,752,103 base hits. This doesn't account for the way the game has changed since the Dead Ball Era, but since baseball has been played professionally, roughly 28% of all base hits have been extra base hits, meaning that ~72% of all base hits have been singles.
Now, does this mean that the average hitter hits singles 72% of the time? Of course not! There are plenty of slap-hitters who make their living by inflating their batting averages with loads of singles, and plenty of hitters who couldn't give less of a shit about doing anything but trying to park one in the seats each and every plate appearance. The simple fact, though, is that you literally did no research and just threw some bullshit out to try to disprove me. Job well done!
Pete could be a bully with the best of them.
As a Red's fan, he was my baseball hero and idol, as he was with just about any Cincinnati kid back in the day. Pete didn't go around starting fights, if something like that ever happened on the diamond, you can bet there was a good reason. I agree with your last sentence also, there will never be another one like him and I feel incredibly lucky to have watched him throughout his career.
Oh give me a break. He did that to harrelson because bud said that the Mets piching made the big red machine look like he was hitting. Heck he jokingly put his own self down. Let's be real Pete is a bully. A great ball player but a bully nonetheless. Harrelson comment was harmless
@@jackcarona313 Yes, Pete was a big bully looking like the Hulk with his Buster Brown haircut.