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North East Steam workings from West Hartlepool shed.

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • This video has been re uploaded after making some corrections to the image quality.
    Hope this makes for better viewing.
    The content was filmed by me on an 8mm Bolex clockwork cine camera and most of the soundtrack was also recorded at the time of filming.
    Locations include in and around West Hartlepool including the engine sheds, Billingham old station, Norton , Stockton, Bowesfield Junction, Thornaby, Eaglescliffe and Yarm.
    The West Hartlepool shed was home to Q6, K1, 4MT 2-6-0, and WD 2-8-0 locomotives and the predominant traffic was goods and minerals, particularly coal.
    There are shots of coal traffic on the inland route north of Hartlepool via Heselden bank which connected with several collieries in South Durham.
    For variety I have included a couple of shots of rail tours which passed through this region.

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  • @tankmicr00man
    @tankmicr00man 14 днів тому +2

    That's one of the best steam videos around - the quality is superb, a gift to all steam and railway modelling buffs. Thanks so much.

  • @KevinMorrison-xj2bt
    @KevinMorrison-xj2bt Місяць тому +2

    This brought back some memories. I did a tour of the steam sheds in the area in 1966, and Sunderland/West Hartlepool MPD's still had plenty of steam. Those old Q6's WD's and J27's were robust powerful locomotives and would still be running today. So glad Q6 63395 survived. Great footage thanks for uploading.

  • @johndinsdale4471
    @johndinsdale4471 Місяць тому +3

    Just when you think this steam collection couldn’t get any better you watch another and it does! Thanks again for sharing these treasures of our past.

  • @tomellis4750
    @tomellis4750 Місяць тому +1

    At 5.00 minutes in is Billingham Staion, now demolished, with its tall signal box. I used to stand on the crossing gates at night, as a boy, and not run away as the thundering dragons of Q6's left ICI. There was a bad joint, and I could count the axles going over it from my bed a mile away. Thank you for this.

    • @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv
      @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv  Місяць тому

      Hello Tom,
      Glad you enjoyed my film.
      I also remember Billingham old station and the coal workings to ICI . Access to the works was from the Haverton Hill branch which had a south facing connection to the main line. Coal trains came from the north hauled by engines from West Hartlepool and Sunderland and ran through the station and into a long goods loop on the up side which stretched as for as Norton signal box. The engine would then run round through the station and back onto the opposite end of it's train.
      When there was a clear path the train would run "wrong line" through the station then onto the branch.
      The same arrangement was repeated for the empties returning north and because of the potential delays this could cause to other traffic and adverse gradients the engines worked very hard through the station.
      This made for spectacular sights and sounds.
      Happy memories.
      Peter.

  • @melvynwoodman5787
    @melvynwoodman5787 2 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for sharing. It started out good and steadily improved throughout. It sometimes seems like I imagined this whole world as everything is so different now and it’s great to see it looking so real.

  • @richardjoyce3612
    @richardjoyce3612 2 місяці тому +4

    Brilliant vid, many thanks, the good old days of steam eh....

  • @johndinsdale4471
    @johndinsdale4471 2 місяці тому +3

    Wonderfully nostalgic sights and sounds of the era and place I grew up in. Good of you to make it come alive for us all again. Many thanks.

  • @XxBec3509
    @XxBec3509 2 місяці тому +2

    Lovely old film, thanks for sharing.

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye 2 місяці тому +3

    Outstanding! Image and sound quality are still very good after the years. I checked some of the locomotives allocations on BR database and after extracting a time snapshot it suggested that this must be filmed around 1966? Some J27s in the film which were of another shed, you know which one?
    Surprising number of WD/8s still around, we had them in the Netherlands after the war too and despite not being the strongest 4 coupled locomotive in the fleet regarding tractive effort they were known to be very free steaming, never exhausted of steam even on heavy coal trains in the province of Limburg where there were hills and steep inclines in the coal mining area. One of the Dutch locomotives, WD79257, NS4464 and then sold to Sweden numbered SJ1932 ended up preserved at the K&WVR as 90733.

    • @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv
      @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv  2 місяці тому +4

      Hello
      I shot this film in 1966/7
      The J27 65833 was from Sunderland shed and visits this far south i.e. to Tees Yard were not common. They did regularly bring coal down to the north bank of the Tees on to the Haverton Hill branch at Billingham I believe for use in a power station.
      Interesting history you provided on the WD 2-8-0s coincidentally I have taken video of 90733 on the Worth Valley railway.
      These engines on BR were not the most popular with photographers here but handled the jobs they were given well.
      Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @thestocktonflyer4059
    @thestocktonflyer4059 Місяць тому +2

    I grew up in Stockton. And worked at the ICI amazing place amazing people. And an excellent video. Thank you 😊

  • @steveatkins2564
    @steveatkins2564 27 днів тому

    Many thanks for uploading. Absolutely perfect.

  • @Blade1310
    @Blade1310 Місяць тому

    33:06 - walked along there just yesterday. Seaton Carew into town. Lovely!

  • @christhompson2126
    @christhompson2126 9 днів тому

    Never got a cine camera until I think 1970 (far too late, but I had a tape recorder by 1965!), but as West Hartlepool was on the BR Thornaby Area (on which I worked as a 'Junior'), I was taken north many times to assist in track, etc. surveys. The footage of Yarm Viaduct was clearly taken from a spot close to Egglescliffe junior school I attended in the 1950s. I also knew a school friend who lived in Cranbourne Terrace, close to where the Hartburn Curve joins the Leeds Northern. I also made some good recordings of'Q6s' and 'WDs' blasting away up Stockton Bank, where once a nasty-minded old woman threatened to throw a bucket of water over us... (We did have lineside permits by then, of course.) One Sunday, I and several others at work on Yarm viaduct were almost mown down by a passing 'Deltic' - very clearly, its driver had ignored the 20MPH temporary speed restriction by a very wide margin!

  • @Backwardlooking
    @Backwardlooking 2 місяці тому +2

    Used to watch the locomotives at Rosegrove Shed Burnley and the W.D.2-8-0’s hauling similar coal trains from the local pits. Another world.

  • @gainsbourg66
    @gainsbourg66 2 місяці тому +1

    Every so often a really good film comes along. Steam captured as it truly was.

  • @nigelterry9299
    @nigelterry9299 Місяць тому +1

    Fabulous thanks! More tender 1st working than you'd think.

  • @philipeldridge7346
    @philipeldridge7346 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for capturing these memories!

  • @derekferguson385
    @derekferguson385 2 місяці тому +2

    Love the sounds as they move along. 😊

  • @larx4074
    @larx4074 2 місяці тому +2

    Absolutely marvellous!! Oh to be able to see it all again.... now where is that time machine....??

  • @johndrew3202
    @johndrew3202 2 місяці тому +1

    Superb cine film, especially with the authentic sound! How the area has changed in 50 years, how did we live in those days? Real memories which were fading.

  • @jimmyjam4371
    @jimmyjam4371 Місяць тому

    So many tender engines travelling tender first!

  • @davidpage6470
    @davidpage6470 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent.

  • @johnbill9201
    @johnbill9201 Місяць тому

    Great video thanks for sharing love the tender first running, proper railways from in the day, J

  • @ianthomsonnewman4048
    @ianthomsonnewman4048 Місяць тому

    Working in the cab of a tender-first J27 hauling coal in md-winter on a windswept Northumberland moorland makes me shudder even more than I am right now at 900 meters up towards the Andes in early July..

  • @johnrees
    @johnrees 2 місяці тому +1

    Happy Days ......... just as i remember Hartlepool shed

  • @rorymacve
    @rorymacve 2 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic video of a unique part of British railway history! :D
    I was just wondering, would it be possible for me to use this footage as part of an upcoming documentary I'm creating about the history of the WD Austerity 2-8-0 and 2-10-0?

    • @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv
      @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv  2 місяці тому

      Hello , Glad you liked my video.
      I posted this and others on you tube in order to share my experience of filming different locations, subjects and variety of steam locomotives to be found. It was not my intention to pass these on to others in part or as a whole and therefor regretfully I cannot help you.
      Peter.

    • @rorymacve
      @rorymacve 2 місяці тому

      @@PeterHutchinson-jc6wv Hi Peter,
      Thank you for your response and I understand completely. Thanks again for sharing your videos regardless, as my dad is from Tyneside this footage strikes a particular chord with me. :)
      All the best, Ruairidh

  • @Michelle-fy7vj
    @Michelle-fy7vj Місяць тому

    Wow what an amazing video thanks so much for sharing.

  • @johnbristow8099
    @johnbristow8099 2 місяці тому

    Great video with lovely sound.

  • @davidblurton7158
    @davidblurton7158 2 місяці тому

    very good,,,,

  • @modeltrainsandtracks
    @modeltrainsandtracks 2 місяці тому

    Watching the locos around the old shed was classic - I'm guessing the WD 2-8-0s and similar 'modern' locos would get through those doors? I can understand the NER design as Winters can be harsh up there and I'm guessing the shed design helped!

    • @modeltrainsandtracks
      @modeltrainsandtracks 2 місяці тому

      Ooops - that was "wouldn't get through those doors"....

    • @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv
      @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv  2 місяці тому

      Hi,
      Thanks for your comments.
      The Q6 is seen emerging from the roundhouse which by design had a turntable to turn the engines as required.
      There was no provision to do this in the shed yard.
      I only ever saw Q6 engines in the roundhouse but if the turntable was long enough I see no reason other types could not use it.
      The straight shed was semi derelict and would not be a safe environment to work in and most engines seemed to be stabled outside. Which begs the question where was the maintenance done?

  • @tanker1425
    @tanker1425 2 місяці тому +1

    this locomotive looks very rusty

    • @cathybrind2381
      @cathybrind2381 2 місяці тому +2

      By the end of steam most locos in the UK looked dirty and rusty . That's how it was. Please don't imagine that those nice clean examples you see on preserved railways are anything like the reality of the i960s. That's why various model railway mags and websites talk so much about the need for weathering to get a better look.

    • @tanker1425
      @tanker1425 2 місяці тому

      @@cathybrind2381 that's sad though why didn't they repaint them

    • @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv
      @PeterHutchinson-jc6wv  2 місяці тому +3

      Hi,
      Just to add to the previous comment, by the 1960's steam was on the way out and the railways were needing to make cost savings. Keeping these locos clean is very labour intensive and therefor costly. Also repainting was only done when the engines went into the workshops for overhaul. and by 1965 there was only one workshop carrying out steam repairs and this was at Darlington. This closed the following year so most of the engines in service up to the end of steam had not received general overhaul for many years. In fact it was remarkable that they kept going for so long.
      As a footnote towards the end of steam in was not unusual to see some clean locos and this was thanks to groups of photographers who with the co operation of shed staff did the cleaning themselves in order to get that perfect shot.

    • @tanker1425
      @tanker1425 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PeterHutchinson-jc6wv Thanks that's very interesting!

  • @christophersheward9266
    @christophersheward9266 2 місяці тому

    Those Q6 engines were powerfull but boring if you where a train spotter !

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 Місяць тому

      Not anymore since theres only now 1 left.