Great find guys. I posted a link to a video clip I made when I worked on these NG15's, showing the loco you were exploring around time frame 11 min 30 seconds to 13 minutesua-cam.com/video/2QtzZ8wu-tw/v-deo.html.
Quoting from another forum: "I was contacted by one of the owners of this collection and they did not have the permission to go there and several items were stolen a couple weeks after!"
The locomotive at 6:56 is actually a South African one, built in Germany! The part with the bolts holding it on is a steam dome, where the throttle valve to let steam into the cylinders usually resides. The "brake" at 12:05 is actually a screw driven reverser. It controls which direction the locomotive will travel in. 15:57 That is also a reverser, just a different design. Also, I appreciate how quiet and respectful you guys were there. All of the pieces in the collection are planned to be restored someday as time allows, so it's that none received any damage or poor treatment.
@@VacantHaven in our county (Russia) screw designed revererser was standard until 1930s when numerous huge american locomotives imported and some american ideas in locomotive design borowwed by local manufacturers such as heavy fully molded frames and cylinders (in opposition to light european style with sheets on rivets) and boosted reversers with lever (without booster it is impossible to drive large reverser without screw).
In the 50’s and 60’s my dad was the fireman ( kept the boilers at the right temperature to keep the engine going) here in Australia. I grew up with the smell of steam trains and soot. They are truly wonderful feats of engineering. All beautiful old ladies the lot of them.
You seemed to have missed the miles of laid track that ran through the edge of the fields leading to the barns as shown on the channel “A bearded explorer” who showed the same place this weekend, but not quite as well as yourself Alex and crew. 🎉🚞🚂🚂. Again thanks for taking us along on these fabulous adventures that I’ll never be able to see without you and your camera 🎥 😊Thank you very much!
The loco you lifted the tank filler cap on was a Bagnall 0-6-2 tank called "Conqueror". It was built for Bowaters at Sittingbourne in Kent. It ended up at Whipsnade Zoo where I drove it for a couple of years in the late 1970's. A powerful engine,it hauled the official opening train conveying HRH Princess Margaret. It looks a bit the worse for wear now...
23:42, 25:32 and 26:19 it says 1918 under the name on the plate! Good guess Ned!😁 That was quite a nice find, thanks Eddie! Thank you Alex for taking us back in time again!👍😎 My grandad used to work on the railroad up in Michigan and all along the northern USA back in the 50's!😲 Trains are so awesome!
How wonderful to find these. Hopefully someone will take care of restoring as it would be a horrible shame to just let them rust and fall apart. Absolutely amazing!
For years Peter has banged on how his collection was secure, safe, and under constant restoration, this, and the auctions following his death has shown he was not much but a hoarder with no intention to restore a single item despite near pleas from societies to release specific items valuable to them (usually with direct links) half of which will now be saved as they are beyond salvage.
@@zaklex3165 disagree, most groups and trusts will be priced out of the restoration, heritage groups struggle to get donations for well known standard gauge locomotives, let alone narrow Gauge, see Bala only getting like £25k for its quarter million extension plans
National Railway Museum in York might take some stock for static display, perhaps? First headache will be transporting them. I know of a company that could do it (they have transported other old locomotives) but the cost, added to the purchase price will be prohibitive
"I was contacted by one of the owners of this collection and they did not have the permission to go there and several items were stolen a couple weeks after!" quote from another forum re this video.
This is my first time catching a release on time! These old trains are very hard to find, glad you did. Thank you, Alex, Ned, and Ed! I've been binge-watching all your videos, great work! It seems the powers that be are all trying to cover up and hide our past. Glad you're giving it some light. Safe journeys.
I was amazed to see one of the locomotives that was use on the narrow gauge line in South Africa, the nr 121 written on the cab side,a class NG15. They were first used in South West Africa on the 2' gauge. Later in the late 50's they were sent to work on the Port Elizabeth to Avontuur line in the Lankkloof untill the last one was retired in the early 90's. In the book by CP Lewis from the 80's. -The Great Steam Trek. - you will find a photo of this loco were it was hit by a bus on a crossing near the Chelsea siding. My railway carreer started on these class NG15's. Thanks for posting.
Great video and well found. There are plans for the locos to be restored and moved to the Vale of Rheidol Railway in Wales, some of the collection is already there, these locos will move there in due course.
One of the domes on top of the boiler chassis was used for sand storage. To be used in low traction situations, released through tubes to trickle out onto the tracks in front of the drive wheels, the engineer controlled the release of the sand.
The large loco climbed over early on is a South African Railways 2' gauge NG15 2-8-2; there are two on the Welsh Highland Railway (one presently being restored to working order) and some are preserved in their home country. They were built between the 1930s and 1950s. The frame parked outside looks as if it could also have been from an NG15 - the Welsh Highland's looked very much like it when it was stripped down for re-building. The one with sold to Brecon Mountain Railway painted on the back looks like an Indian 2' gauge 0-6-4T. What I found most interesting was when you poked the camera over the wall into the part where you couldn't access; in the background was the front of a South African Beyer-Garratt 2-6-2+2-6-2 of either NGG13 or NGG16. To see one there was a great surprise - I didn't know that the Rampton collection included one. Thanks for sharing
What an amazing collection, shame the guy didn't live long enough to restore them. They would of made great museum pieces, Great video Alex thank you. I'm lucky coz I was young enough to be able to travel, on steam trains. I remember the smell at the stations and the sounds of them as they came into the stations....loved it. Cheers Alex xx
This is the first time I've heard of Collection X. Some of these locomotives and cars have began to be claimed by various railway museums such as the Vale of Rheidol where Rampton was involved in.
What a find! Absolutely enjoyed this episode. I a huge fan of anything locomotive and Britain probably had the best and biggest production of these beauties back in the industrial age. This was a real treat to watch. Thanks for another amazing episode.
Great that there are people who collect this old technique. This often gets out of hand due to the increasing collection, the restoration then becomes more than a life's work. My old colleague once said to me, "if you want to do everything in your life that interests you, you have to live twice as long". Too bad for this owner that he couldn't get further than this. Hopefully there is family who will sell the trains to people who will restore them and show them to the public. Thanks for making this movie!
In my old pre school (in Lindisfarne, Hobart ,Tasmania) there was a cut away train carriage about the age of the first carriage you explored. Still had working slide windows, brass luggage rack and handles, and a hand wound petrol pump just below it for the children to play with (1964) Slowly it was more and more vandalised until disappearing in the early 2000's. But still have very evocative memories of playing on it.
Wow I just had to put the video on pause to say" Wow!" I love trains and this explore is amazing. Thank you for sharing it with us. What a great adventure!
Alex, that was magical. I have adored steam trains since I was a little kid. I thought they were Dragons. My grandmother would take me from Eastleigh to Portsmouth. I'm surprised now how she never had a heart attack because of how excited I would get and run away from her and stand in the steam and enjoy the roar of the Dragon. Little girls aren't supposed get sooty faces lol. That is a fantastic find. I know some young lads in South Africa who might enjoy seeing this video. They help take care of a big old steam Dragon named Wesley. Thankyou thankyou for the video 💖💖💖💖 Alex is Ned your brother ?
Cheers as always for your little stories Jackie! I used to live the Steam trains when I used to go up North as a kid, something cool about it! The guy who owned it used to film trains in South Africa, so I'm sure he's known in certain parts! As always cheers for watching a d supporting, take care, Ps Ned is my bro 😁👍
What a terrific find Ed was in his element couldn’t wait to get inside of the engine,imagine what they must have looked like when they were in full working order with passengers in the carriages, well done guys.👌🇬🇧
What I’d do with some wire wool and WD40. I love how well these have lasted. Good quality iron ore from way back when and the paint still got loads of life init. Absolute treasure. A pure pleasure to watch. 💯👍🏼
Hi Alex Ned and Eddie :) love watching you explore the engines . Branching out from bunkers , time capsule’s and millionaire mansions ;) . Love Ed’s keen eye geeking out over the old tech . Love the reading up you did Alex to add the extra tit bits of info x
Fantastic Find Guys!! One of the locos is from South Africa. The train with the overhead electric danger sign is in English and Afrikaans and has a swing out seat so that the driver could get a better view and some cool air. The locos 666 and 695 with the squiggly writing and yellow lining are probably from India. The side tank locos are made by Koppel and Henschel Germany but could have been used anywhere. Mainly in Industry, Mining and Plantation work. The 2 small tank locos are german made and used in Spain as you discovered from the Bilbao made gauge.
Loved your video. This is y he first time I watch your material. My mom loves train videos especially the ones with panoramic travel scenery. I am a mechanic hobbyist and also a professional helicopter, industrial maintenance engineer and automotive mechanic, so you can see how it would be for me to get chills just watching what most people would think of as junk. I can watch it over and over again. Thank you for the wonderful experience you bring us all. God bless you guys. 🙏.
Nice one Edgar, thanks for this comment! Glad you enjoyed the explore and apologies if I seemed clueless lol. I believe these are being rescued and will be put on display, fingers crossed 🤞
slowly working my way through your videos, thanks so much for doing this and filming it!!! im sure we will visit some of these locations, cheers guys!!
There was an entrepreneur from Pickering area who ran the Pickering Steam traction rally for many years. He braught in South African 2' Garretts for a projected line from Whitby to Robin Hoods Bay. It didn't get off the ground but wouldn't be at all surprised if it was his collection. I know the garretts got stored on a farm in the Pickering area. The garretts got disstributed around the country but i noticed one of your shots shows the front end of a garrett. The 2-8-2 NG 15 by the end of the 80's were nearly all out of use at Port Elisabeth and 121 was in the dump line. Most of the trains on the Aventuur line were being run by Class 91 diesels. Only the Apple Express and a spare loco were in service. The Electric warning sign on these locos is interesting as such there was no Electric lines in the Port Elisabeth area! However, in Natal the Port Shepstone and Umtata lines did have common interlased track where the 3' 6" line were electrified. So all locos had the sign fitted as a 2-8-2 could be transferred at any time but never happened. If locos do go to Brecon Mountain Railway they will be well looked after,
I believe the Garretts bought for the Robins Hood Bay project went to Exmoor, and two - 87 and 130 - are now on the Welsh Highland; I think Pete Waterman owns another. The two NG15s bought for the same project are also on the Welsh Highland
WoW ! What a find. How disappointing the condition they are in. Those boilers will never hold the pressure again. Hopefully, someone will try to save them. Thanks for the video
I don't believe in trespassing, but thanks guys for this video. Train enthusiasts have been trying for years to gain access to view this collection, particularly as the Phyllis Rampton Collection is a registered charity so the collection should have provided access to members of the public for educational and other purposes - why other would they have been given charity status and hence tax advantages.
The address has been well known, even in print, for over 40 years.!!! I have visited several times. The roadway up the middle of the site is a public right of way!!
I know it may seem controversial to some and I get that. But sometimes when you have a hunch on such a cool collection, then it's worth it. Glad you enjoyed it
A few facts about locomotives and trains, Firstly the locomotive is the engine that pulls the trains which are the engine, locomotive, and the wagons or carriages. The parts of the locomotives are the smokebox at the front with the chimney on top and a door at the front to clean out the ash etc. then the boiler which holds the water as it's heated to generate the steam. The bulge on top is the steam dome where the steam is drawn off to power the cylinders. Then the cab where the driver and fireman ride and can sit to rest, hence the seats. The controls. Hmm, the greased screw gadget is the regulator or throttle and adjusts the amount of steam going to the cylinders, also often controls the direction of travel too. The stands with what looks like a handbrake is another type of regulator. What appeared to be motorcycle handlebars are a throttle to adjust the amount of steam. You did show a brake in one shot, in the cab a column with a T shaped handle at the top which is turned to apply or release the brakes. The locomotives with the water tanks on the sides are known as side tank engines, the ones with no tanks but a truck attached at the rear are tender engines and the tender correctly holds coal and also water. So next time you will have a bit more knowledge to know what you see. A brilliant find and good explore. Many thanks. Steve
Nice one guys, what a find and a very respectful explore, I thoroughly enjoyed that. What an amazing train collection, hope someone gets a chance to restore some of those locos. All the best. Brian @ The Angels
Respectful isn't the term I'd use when you're trespassing on a dead man's private property and filming it for UA-cam content, especially when places like these attract vandalism and theft.
Just saw your comment, thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the explore. We mean no disrespect to the guy. But how many enthusiasts will pass away before this collection becomes viewable
KWAE is the depot code for Katwe Junction in West Bengal India and the last but one shed has what looks like GARRETT in it!! You have struck GOLD!! Tell the Welsh Highland Railway they have restored several. All of these locos look like they are narrow gauge.
They are locomotives , not trains , a train is a collection of railway vehicles . However , it's a wondeful find , and what I could see is eminently salvable !
There are carriages in there several which came from the Isle of Man including Cleminsons and the first two bogie coaches in the British Isles to have electric lights.
Wow great video I loved this Alex what an incredible place, what a shame it's all just left there! Hope someone does something with those trains 🚂 what a shame if there just left there! Brilliant video guys, thanks for sharing Alex great crew too 👍💖
7:02 that would be the steam dome it collects steam from the boiler and transfers it to a pipe with a valve that runs to the cylinders the valve is called the throttle or regulator and controls the amount of steam going to the cylinders allowing the engineer to operate the locomotive
Great video. Those boilers on those engines and the engines themselves are missing so many vital components. It would take a lifetime maybe two to resurrect.
These railway vehicles aren't "abandoned". They're stored awaiting a move into a purpose built museum at an already established heritage railway in Wales.
Thank you for that interesting video. The lever you thought might be the brake is in fact the reverser. The pistons drive the wheels directly, so when you want to reverse you bring the steam into the opposite end of the cylinder to move the piston in the opposite direction and thus turn the wheels backwards. This is why a steam engine can go just as fast backwards as forwards. There are 2 types of reverser, a lever and a screw. The lever is quicker to operate and is useful for a shunting engine which has to change direction frequently. The screw reverser is geared and therefore easier to operate making it more suitable for a large, and therefore heavy engine. There is a position called mid gear in which steam will not flow to either end of the cylinder and this is where you position the reverser when you leave the engine or if someone is working on it, perhaps to oil the moving parts. The effect is roughly similar to neutral in a car gearbox, although of course it is not the same mechanically speaking. Thanks again.
In my hometown, there is One of those engines, forgive me for saying it wrong, La Ferrarigan, I believe you called it..next time I go I will tryand get a picture.. I absolutely love the train..every since I seen a hobo, no disrespect to anyone, firing on one looking so free and happy..thank you..I love you guys Alex 😘, Ed and Ned..
Saw these locos years ago had a mate who worked there looking after them ,there was speculation about them back in the seventies was sworn to secretly after seeming them
Back in the 1980s I heard stories of the owner chasing people away with a shotgun. Or maybe it was just an urban legend. I was too scared to find out for myself! He was part of the wealthy Rampton family that started the Freemans catalogue business.
I did mention this in the video about the shotgun, he really didn't want people seeing these! Hopefully some folk will now get the pleasure of seeing them finally!
The Coach F6 was one of the IMR Pairs coaches (made by mounting two 4 wheel coach bodies on a bogie underframe) the two in the separate shed which are in bad condition are the ex MNR Cleminson coaches which had 6 wheel underframes, to be fair they sat outside St Johns carriage shed for most of their lives, am amazed the MNR numbers and the stickers from Ramsey are still there. The two Hurst Nelson bogie coaches which were in the collection have already been returned to the Island.
Not a train guy, but I am a boiler guy. What the one fellow identified as "where the steam goes through" were actually "fire tubes". The hot gasses from the fire box are directed though them to boil the water. All the water/steam is on the other side of those tubes. The big blister on top is called a "steam dome". It helps remove droplets of water as they can do damage in a number of ways. The train at 15:18 is missing all of the fire tubes in the boiler. There should be steel tubes running between the holes in those sheets. At 29:00, that's definitely a small boiler. Likely coal or wood fired. What it's from, I have no idea. If I had to guess, based solely on this video I'd say it's likely to be the power source for the steam powered crane outside at the start of the video. The pipe coming out of the chimney at 31:20 is probably an economizer possibly a super heater. One would preheat the feed water headed into the boiler. The other would add extra heat to steam that had already left the boiler. You want a rabbit hole to fall down, read up on super heated steam, super heat it enough you can set stuff on fire. Honestly, there may be both in there. Again, not a train guy, but I'm pretty sure the stripped frame at the end still had it's engine, part of it anyway. It was missing the boiler, water tanks, and cabin. I'm pretty sure the big hunk of steel you focus on right as he's talking about it is 2 pistons of a triple expansion steam engine. 42:38 That's all I got for ya.
Yup! The railway preservation movement across the globe is massive atm, we can't let them rust.. I'm going to forward that to quite a few of my mates a la porthmadog, Tywyn, amonst others.. I'd consider adopting One, myself.. or putting a bid. The DHR in India would like that One back.. Bless. Well done you!!😜👍❤️❤️❤️🚂😎K
that's the steam dome its where the steam pressure inside the boiler collects after being made from boiling water. that Handle is the main steam valve which sends the steam pressure to the pistons which turns the driving wheels
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Great find guys. I posted a link to a video clip I made when I worked on these NG15's, showing the loco you were exploring around time frame 11 min 30 seconds to 13 minutesua-cam.com/video/2QtzZ8wu-tw/v-deo.html.
Thanks for that Mark, I've just watched the clip and truly amazing to see it in action!
Let’s hope the collection is moved somewhere safe before the vandals and scrap merchants invade and the engines and carriages are lost!
Quoting from another forum: "I was contacted by one of the owners of this collection and they did not have the permission to go there and several items were stolen a couple weeks after!"
The locomotive at 6:56 is actually a South African one, built in Germany! The part with the bolts holding it on is a steam dome, where the throttle valve to let steam into the cylinders usually resides.
The "brake" at 12:05 is actually a screw driven reverser. It controls which direction the locomotive will travel in.
15:57 That is also a reverser, just a different design.
Also, I appreciate how quiet and respectful you guys were there. All of the pieces in the collection are planned to be restored someday as time allows, so it's that none received any damage or poor treatment.
Nice one! Thank you for the information, I must have seemed a bit clueless!
Very interesting stuff and glad you enjoyed the video.
@@VacantHaven in our county (Russia) screw designed revererser was standard until 1930s when numerous huge american locomotives imported and some american ideas in locomotive design borowwed by local manufacturers such as heavy fully molded frames and cylinders (in opposition to light european style with sheets on rivets) and boosted reversers with lever (without booster it is impossible to drive large reverser without screw).
In the 50’s and 60’s my dad was the fireman ( kept the boilers at the right temperature to keep the engine going) here in Australia. I grew up with the smell of steam trains and soot. They are truly wonderful feats of engineering. All beautiful old ladies the lot of them.
You seemed to have missed the miles of laid track that ran through the edge of the fields leading to the barns as shown on the channel “A bearded explorer” who showed the same place this weekend, but not quite as well as yourself Alex and crew. 🎉🚞🚂🚂. Again thanks for taking us along on these fabulous adventures that I’ll never be able to see without you and your camera 🎥 😊Thank you very much!
The loco you lifted the tank filler cap on was a Bagnall 0-6-2 tank called "Conqueror".
It was built for Bowaters at Sittingbourne in Kent.
It ended up at Whipsnade Zoo where I drove it for a couple of years in the late 1970's.
A powerful engine,it hauled the official opening train conveying HRH Princess Margaret.
It looks a bit the worse for wear now...
Wow! Cheers for the info Rod, very interesting!
you must have so much nostalgia seeing it again.
23:42, 25:32 and 26:19 it says 1918 under the name on the plate! Good guess Ned!😁
That was quite a nice find, thanks Eddie! Thank you Alex for taking us back in time again!👍😎
My grandad used to work on the railroad up in Michigan and all along the northern USA back in the 50's!😲 Trains are so awesome!
How wonderful to find these. Hopefully someone will take care of restoring as it would be a horrible shame to just let them rust and fall apart. Absolutely amazing!
For years Peter has banged on how his collection was secure, safe, and under constant restoration, this, and the auctions following his death has shown he was not much but a hoarder with no intention to restore a single item despite near pleas from societies to release specific items valuable to them (usually with direct links) half of which will now be saved as they are beyond salvage.
Very unfortunate
Nothing is beyond salvage...
@@zaklex3165 disagree, most groups and trusts will be priced out of the restoration, heritage groups struggle to get donations for well known standard gauge locomotives, let alone narrow Gauge, see Bala only getting like £25k for its quarter million extension plans
National Railway Museum in York might take some stock for static display, perhaps?
First headache will be transporting them. I know of a company that could do it (they have transported other old locomotives) but the cost, added to the purchase price will be prohibitive
"I was contacted by one of the owners of this collection and they did not have the permission to go there and several items were stolen a couple weeks after!" quote from another forum re this video.
This is my first time catching a release on time! These old trains are very hard to find, glad you did. Thank you, Alex, Ned, and Ed! I've been binge-watching all your videos, great work!
It seems the powers that be are all trying to cover up and hide our past. Glad you're giving it some light. Safe journeys.
I was amazed to see one of the locomotives that was use on the narrow gauge line in South Africa, the nr 121 written on the cab side,a class NG15. They were first used in South West Africa on the 2' gauge. Later in the late 50's they were sent to work on the Port Elizabeth to Avontuur line in the Lankkloof untill the last one was retired in the early 90's. In the book by CP Lewis from the 80's. -The Great Steam Trek. - you will find a photo of this loco were it was hit by a bus on a crossing near the Chelsea siding. My railway carreer started on these class NG15's. Thanks for posting.
You're welcome Gary, cheers for very interesting info too.
Great video and well found. There are plans for the locos to be restored and moved to the Vale of Rheidol Railway in Wales, some of the collection is already there, these locos will move there in due course.
Good news
Awesome, thanks for the info 👍
Great they’ve been saved for preservation use
@@alantunbridge8919 The locos are destined for the museum at Aber.
@@alantunbridge8919 what is museum name
One of the domes on top of the boiler chassis was used for sand storage. To be used in low traction situations, released through tubes to trickle out onto the tracks in front of the drive wheels, the engineer controlled the release of the sand.
The large loco climbed over early on is a South African Railways 2' gauge NG15 2-8-2; there are two on the Welsh Highland Railway (one presently being restored to working order) and some are preserved in their home country. They were built between the 1930s and 1950s. The frame parked outside looks as if it could also have been from an NG15 - the Welsh Highland's looked very much like it when it was stripped down for re-building. The one with sold to Brecon Mountain Railway painted on the back looks like an Indian 2' gauge 0-6-4T.
What I found most interesting was when you poked the camera over the wall into the part where you couldn't access; in the background was the front of a South African Beyer-Garratt 2-6-2+2-6-2 of either NGG13 or NGG16. To see one there was a great surprise - I didn't know that the Rampton collection included one.
Thanks for sharing
A garratts?! Now that's something
According to Wikipedia the Garratt is NGG 13 No. 82.
What an amazing collection, shame the guy didn't live long enough to restore them. They would of made great museum pieces, Great video Alex thank you. I'm lucky coz I was young enough to be able to travel, on steam trains. I remember the smell at the stations and the sounds of them as they came into the stations....loved it. Cheers Alex xx
i really hope most of these pieces of railway history are given restoration, they look fantastic!
This is the first time I've heard of Collection X. Some of these locomotives and cars have began to be claimed by various railway museums such as the Vale of Rheidol where Rampton was involved in.
What a find! Absolutely enjoyed this episode. I a huge fan of anything locomotive and Britain probably had the best and biggest production of these beauties back in the industrial age. This was a real treat to watch. Thanks for another amazing episode.
You've done a great service to the heritage steam industry by bringing this collection "out into the open" and to our attention..... thanks very much!
Great that there are people who collect this old technique.
This often gets out of hand due to the increasing collection, the restoration then becomes more than a life's work.
My old colleague once said to me, "if you want to do everything in your life that interests you, you have to live twice as long".
Too bad for this owner that he couldn't get further than this.
Hopefully there is family who will sell the trains to people who will restore them and show them to the public.
Thanks for making this movie!
You're welcome Hein, glad you enjoyed seeing these locomotives,
Cheers for the comment 👍
In my old pre school (in Lindisfarne, Hobart ,Tasmania) there was a cut away train carriage about the age of the first carriage you explored. Still had working slide windows, brass luggage rack and handles, and a hand wound petrol pump just below it for the children to play with (1964) Slowly it was more and more vandalised until disappearing in the early 2000's. But still have very evocative memories of playing on it.
Wow just wow! I really enjoyed this. You truly can not get better than this one. What a find. Well done Alex and team 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I thought it was such a cool find, glad you liked Maz, hopefully they get looked after.
Cheers as always 😁👍
Wow I just had to put the video on pause to say" Wow!" I love trains and this explore is amazing. Thank you for sharing it with us. What a great adventure!
3:45 never seen Pompeye so nimble & quick 😂. Quality video guys 👍🏻.
Alex, that was magical. I have adored steam trains since I was a little kid. I thought they were Dragons. My grandmother would take me from Eastleigh to Portsmouth. I'm surprised now how she never had a heart attack because of how excited I would get and run away from her and stand in the steam and enjoy the roar of the Dragon. Little girls aren't supposed get sooty faces lol. That is a fantastic find. I know some young lads in South Africa who might enjoy seeing this video. They help take care of a big old steam Dragon named Wesley.
Thankyou thankyou for the video 💖💖💖💖 Alex is Ned your brother ?
Cheers as always for your little stories Jackie!
I used to live the Steam trains when I used to go up North as a kid, something cool about it!
The guy who owned it used to film trains in South Africa, so I'm sure he's known in certain parts!
As always cheers for watching a d supporting, take care,
Ps Ned is my bro 😁👍
That was quite something to behold Alex. Out of the norm too. Great stuff. Loved every minute. 🤗💙
You're welcome, I like finding different things from the deep bunkers to the top of clock towers!
Cheers as always Nanny 👍
What a terrific find Ed was in his element couldn’t wait to get inside of the engine,imagine what they must have looked like when they were in full working order with passengers in the carriages, well done guys.👌🇬🇧
What I’d do with some wire wool and WD40. I love how well these have lasted. Good quality iron ore from way back when and the paint still got loads of life init.
Absolute treasure. A pure pleasure to watch. 💯👍🏼
Hi Alex Ned and Eddie :) love watching you explore the engines . Branching out from bunkers , time capsule’s and millionaire mansions ;) . Love Ed’s keen eye geeking out over the old tech . Love the reading up you did Alex to add the extra tit bits of info x
Let's hope the restoration continues what a fantastic find well done
Fantastic Find Guys!! One of the locos is from South Africa. The train with the overhead electric danger sign is in English and Afrikaans and has a swing out seat so that the driver could get a better view and some cool air. The locos 666 and 695 with the squiggly writing and yellow lining are probably from India. The side tank locos are made by Koppel and Henschel Germany but could have been used anywhere. Mainly in Industry, Mining and Plantation work. The 2 small tank locos are german made and used in Spain as you discovered from the Bilbao made gauge.
Thanks for the comment and information Malcom.
Very interesting!
Loved your video. This is y he first time I watch your material. My mom loves train videos especially the ones with panoramic travel scenery. I am a mechanic hobbyist and also a professional helicopter, industrial maintenance engineer and automotive mechanic, so you can see how it would be for me to get chills just watching what most people would think of as junk. I can watch it over and over again. Thank you for the wonderful experience you bring us all. God bless you guys. 🙏.
Nice one Edgar, thanks for this comment!
Glad you enjoyed the explore and apologies if I seemed clueless lol.
I believe these are being rescued and will be put on display, fingers crossed 🤞
slowly working my way through your videos, thanks so much for doing this and filming it!!! im sure we will visit some of these locations, cheers guys!!
There was an entrepreneur from Pickering area who ran the Pickering Steam traction rally for many years. He braught in South African 2' Garretts for a projected line from Whitby to Robin Hoods Bay. It didn't get off the ground but wouldn't be at all surprised if it was his collection. I know the garretts got stored on a farm in the Pickering area. The garretts got disstributed around the country but i noticed one of your shots shows the front end of a garrett. The 2-8-2 NG 15 by the end of the 80's were nearly all out of use at Port Elisabeth and 121 was in the dump line. Most of the trains on the Aventuur line were being run by Class 91 diesels. Only the Apple Express and a spare loco were in service. The Electric warning sign on these locos is interesting as such there was no Electric lines in the Port Elisabeth area! However, in Natal the Port Shepstone and Umtata lines did have common interlased track where the 3' 6" line were electrified. So all locos had the sign fitted as a 2-8-2 could be transferred at any time but never happened. If locos do go to Brecon Mountain Railway they will be well looked after,
I believe the Garretts bought for the Robins Hood Bay project went to Exmoor, and two - 87 and 130 - are now on the Welsh Highland; I think Pete Waterman owns another. The two NG15s bought for the same project are also on the Welsh Highland
WoW ! What a find. How disappointing the condition they are in. Those boilers will never hold the pressure again. Hopefully, someone will try to save them. Thanks for the video
Awesome explore 👌 great to see old steam trains
Cheers Kev 👍
Hello Alex and Pompeye and Ned! Great explore. Thanks for sharing!😊❤
That was A. Mazing guys!!! Thank you SO much!
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed that
I don't believe in trespassing, but thanks guys for this video. Train enthusiasts have been trying for years to gain access to view this collection, particularly as the Phyllis Rampton Collection is a registered charity so the collection should have provided access to members of the public for educational and other purposes - why other would they have been given charity status and hence tax advantages.
The address has been well known, even in print, for over 40 years.!!! I have visited several times. The roadway up the middle of the site is a public right of way!!
I know it may seem controversial to some and I get that. But sometimes when you have a hunch on such a cool collection, then it's worth it.
Glad you enjoyed it
Where do I find said charity?
@@Johnnearcfonwhats the address
Hello From Alabama USA,. Thousands of Hours of Operation, before we Were all Born, WOW. What a Great Find
Brilliant video nice to come along with you , fairplay to you 👍👍👍👍👍
Ramsey is in the Isle of Man and the numbers 1,2,3 represented the 1st, 2nd and 3rd class for the passengers.
A few facts about locomotives and trains, Firstly the locomotive is the engine that pulls the trains which are the engine, locomotive, and the wagons or carriages. The parts of the locomotives are the smokebox at the front with the chimney on top and a door at the front to clean out the ash etc. then the boiler which holds the water as it's heated to generate the steam. The bulge on top is the steam dome where the steam is drawn off to power the cylinders. Then the cab where the driver and fireman ride and can sit to rest, hence the seats. The controls. Hmm, the greased screw gadget is the regulator or throttle and adjusts the amount of steam going to the cylinders, also often controls the direction of travel too. The stands with what looks like a handbrake is another type of regulator. What appeared to be motorcycle handlebars are a throttle to adjust the amount of steam. You did show a brake in one shot, in the cab a column with a T shaped handle at the top which is turned to apply or release the brakes. The locomotives with the water tanks on the sides are known as side tank engines, the ones with no tanks but a truck attached at the rear are tender engines and the tender correctly holds coal and also water. So next time you will have a bit more knowledge to know what you see.
A brilliant find and good explore. Many thanks.
Steve
old song.. "I can dream, can't I " lol great video. What i would love to see, is the insides of your homes, lol
Yet another great video from you all I love watching your videos as its entertainment & history all in one thanks lads
You're welcome cheers for watching 👍
Nice one guys, what a find and a very respectful explore, I thoroughly enjoyed that. What an amazing train collection, hope someone gets a chance to restore some of those locos. All the best. Brian @ The Angels
Respectful isn't the term I'd use when you're trespassing on a dead man's private property and filming it for UA-cam content, especially when places like these attract vandalism and theft.
@@_molls that's pretty much what every urban explorer does, be hard to do it when they're living. Pointless comment tbh.
Just saw your comment, thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the explore. We mean no disrespect to the guy.
But how many enthusiasts will pass away before this collection becomes viewable
KWAE is the depot code for Katwe Junction in West Bengal India and the last but one shed has what looks like GARRETT in it!! You have struck GOLD!! Tell the Welsh Highland Railway they have restored several. All of these locos look like they are narrow gauge.
They are locomotives , not trains , a train is a collection of railway vehicles . However , it's a wondeful find , and what I could see is eminently salvable !
There are carriages in there several which came from the Isle of Man including Cleminsons and the first two bogie coaches in the British Isles to have electric lights.
The bearded explorer had but this place on yesterday as it's got a train track all round the field but good to see it again
It was great. I love it. Keep up the good work,Alex. 👍👍👍😍😍😍
I will try Sharon! Thanks 😁👍👍
Wow great video I loved this Alex what an incredible place, what a shame it's all just left there! Hope someone does something with those trains 🚂 what a shame if there just left there! Brilliant video guys, thanks for sharing Alex great crew too 👍💖
Hopefully someone will take on this massive task, he loved trains too much I think!
Cheers as always 👍
Nice find Alex you can't beat a steam train or two ✌ love this one shared to fb as per
Enjoyed this One, thanks ed ned and alex
You're welcome Grapes! Cheers as always 👍
@@VacantHaven thanks guy's much appreciated
I really want to know more about the person who went out of his way to collect all of these steam engines. There has to be a really good story there.
Oh there is, you'll have to keep your eyes peeled for that VERY special video 👍
Great video, fascinating, That carriage was definltly from the Isle of Man with the reference to Ramsey.
Wow, now that's some history there. thanks for sharing!
7:02 that would be the steam dome it collects steam from the boiler and transfers it to a pipe with a valve that runs to the cylinders the valve is called the throttle or regulator and controls the amount of steam going to the cylinders allowing the engineer to operate the locomotive
Wow so great to see the old trains great video thanks again for your video love watching all
Cracking vid , great vibes you three
What a awesome find this was really cool. Thanks guy’s much love to you all❤😊
Wow fantastic find beautiful old trains carriages i really hope they save the trains part of are history
Great video. Those boilers on those engines and the engines themselves are missing so many vital components. It would take a lifetime maybe two to resurrect.
The boilers are there.. the tubes are missing.. mid re-tubing.
This would make a good train- ing video 😂 , great find guys 👌
These railway vehicles aren't "abandoned". They're stored awaiting a move into a purpose built museum at an already established heritage railway in Wales.
Legally, they are a trust asset that got "sold" between Peter and his wife every few years to avoid tax.
Thank you for that interesting video. The lever you thought might be the brake is in fact the reverser. The pistons drive the wheels directly, so when you want to reverse you bring the steam into the opposite end of the cylinder to move the piston in the opposite direction and thus turn the wheels backwards. This is why a steam engine can go just as fast backwards as forwards. There are 2 types of reverser, a lever and a screw. The lever is quicker to operate and is useful for a shunting engine which has to change direction frequently. The screw reverser is geared and therefore easier to operate making it more suitable for a large, and therefore heavy engine. There is a position called mid gear in which steam will not flow to either end of the cylinder and this is where you position the reverser when you leave the engine or if someone is working on it, perhaps to oil the moving parts. The effect is roughly similar to neutral in a car gearbox, although of course it is not the same mechanically speaking. Thanks again.
You've found the mysterious Rampton Collection
Alex you make a good camera man. Thanks for posting these 😊
Awesome... Thanks fellas 💖
You're welcome 👍
In my hometown, there is One of those engines, forgive me for saying it wrong, La Ferrarigan, I believe you called it..next time I go I will tryand get a picture.. I absolutely love the train..every since I seen a hobo, no disrespect to anyone, firing on one looking so free and happy..thank you..I love you guys Alex 😘, Ed and Ned..
Please, please do a follow up video of who owns them now and what plans they have for them.
Marvellous video guys greetings from 🇳🇱
Saw these locos years ago had a mate who worked there looking after them ,there was speculation about them back in the seventies was sworn to secretly after seeming them
Oh really!? How were the condition of the loco's then?
Shame that real enthusiasts have not got to see them.
@6:57, That certainly holds water, but in gaseous form. As steam collects in the dome, it is sent, via the superheater, to the cylinders.
Back in the 1980s I heard stories of the owner chasing people away with a shotgun. Or maybe it was just an urban legend. I was too scared to find out for myself! He was part of the wealthy Rampton family that started the Freemans catalogue business.
I did mention this in the video about the shotgun, he really didn't want people seeing these!
Hopefully some folk will now get the pleasure of seeing them finally!
One loco looks like an South African Railways NGG15 (the one next to the red and cream carriage) 2-8-2 wheel arrangement.
The Coach F6 was one of the IMR Pairs coaches (made by mounting two 4 wheel coach bodies on a bogie underframe) the two in the separate shed which are in bad condition are the ex MNR Cleminson coaches which had 6 wheel underframes, to be fair they sat outside St Johns carriage shed for most of their lives, am amazed the MNR numbers and the stickers from Ramsey are still there. The two Hurst Nelson bogie coaches which were in the collection have already been returned to the Island.
Not a train guy, but I am a boiler guy. What the one fellow identified as "where the steam goes through" were actually "fire tubes". The hot gasses from the fire box are directed though them to boil the water. All the water/steam is on the other side of those tubes.
The big blister on top is called a "steam dome". It helps remove droplets of water as they can do damage in a number of ways.
The train at 15:18 is missing all of the fire tubes in the boiler. There should be steel tubes running between the holes in those sheets.
At 29:00, that's definitely a small boiler. Likely coal or wood fired. What it's from, I have no idea. If I had to guess, based solely on this video I'd say it's likely to be the power source for the steam powered crane outside at the start of the video.
The pipe coming out of the chimney at 31:20 is probably an economizer possibly a super heater. One would preheat the feed water headed into the boiler. The other would add extra heat to steam that had already left the boiler. You want a rabbit hole to fall down, read up on super heated steam, super heat it enough you can set stuff on fire. Honestly, there may be both in there.
Again, not a train guy, but I'm pretty sure the stripped frame at the end still had it's engine, part of it anyway. It was missing the boiler, water tanks, and cabin. I'm pretty sure the big hunk of steel you focus on right as he's talking about it is 2 pistons of a triple expansion steam engine. 42:38
That's all I got for ya.
Wow this was awsome well done guys .keep up great work
Btw there locomotives. Its only classed as a train when the coaches or wagons are behind 👍🏻
Wow is all I can say ❤ absolutely amazing
Choo Choo 🚂😂 These should be in a Museum ✨️🤩✨️ Can't believe these are left to Rot 🤯
The locomotive at 22:56 is a German 0-4-4-0 Mallet from the Hartz Mountain RR. Several of those are still running.
The thing at 7:00 is called a steam dome, dome for short, it holds the steam in, and its take off when needing repairs
Have you thought about looking around a disused lighthouse? I think it would be very interesting and unusual.
Yeah I want to see more trains on this youtube channel!!!!❤
these need to be preserved
Great video ! 👍
Yup! The railway preservation movement across the globe is massive atm, we can't let them rust.. I'm going to forward that to quite a few of my mates a la porthmadog, Tywyn, amonst others.. I'd consider adopting One, myself.. or putting a bid. The DHR in India would like that One back.. Bless. Well done you!!😜👍❤️❤️❤️🚂😎K
the steam age is just so cool
wow absolutely fantastic and interesting.
The dome also gives a dryer steam to the cylinders
37:23 Katwa Railway Station(station code - KWAE) is well-connected to all major Indian cities
If I remember correctly, one of those NG15s was bought by the F&WHR for restoration!
The boiler setting on floor is probably a replacement for one of the two tank engines….
This is better video of collection! Mike from Missouri
Glad you enjoyed that Charles! Greetings from the UK 👍
Love it!
that's the steam dome its where the steam pressure inside the boiler collects after being made from boiling water. that Handle is the main steam valve which sends the steam pressure to the pistons which turns the driving wheels
it all needs to be restored and placed back into service....!
beautiful collection looks like there might have been a garret in that last room
What a great find 👍
Glad you enjoyed, and cheers for watching 👍