Bayonetta Lore: Her Story

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  • Опубліковано 28 лис 2024

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  • @werewolfgamer5651
    @werewolfgamer5651 5 років тому +127

    I just love how the two witches just choose to switch hair lengths

    • @bruhed1117
      @bruhed1117 4 роки тому +12

      I know but bayonetta 2 Jeanne IS SO HOT

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 3 роки тому +4

      they are so cute with eachother ^^

  • @odette5031
    @odette5031 5 років тому +119

    The umbra witches kept Chereza alive because she held the left eye of darkness, a valued and powerful treasure of the Umbra.

    • @marauderpride927
      @marauderpride927 3 роки тому +1

      Who gave cereza the left eye?

    • @odette5031
      @odette5031 3 роки тому +8

      @@marauderpride927 she was born with it

    • @IsaiahWong8
      @IsaiahWong8 3 роки тому +2

      @@marauderpride927 there’s been many left eye before her since the first elders held it but she’s the most powerful due to her heritage

  • @lepidlover0557
    @lepidlover0557 5 років тому +51

    At least Jeanne wasn't TRULY alone. She had Madama Styx to fight alongside her. Remember that when you are fighting a witch, it's not one person you're against, but TWO. The witch and their pact partner.
    Those fists and heels you summon are portals for the demon to deliver a blow.
    So, just remember that anytime you use a wicked weave, the witch's contracted demon is on the other side throwing those kicks and punches alongside her.

  • @Dayviono
    @Dayviono 6 років тому +87

    Jeanne has a history of fighting armies of enemies, even though Bayonetta is more powerful since she’s A mixture of light and dark (left eye and such) Jeanne being fully umbra (dark) surprisingly keeps up all on her own. Eve though she is second to bayo Jeanne has held it down for her “more or less” Umbran sister !

    • @tovi3280
      @tovi3280 5 років тому +17

      Dayvon Harris But... technically (in gameplay) she is much stronger, and she literally handicapped herself on purpose because she thought herself to be more powerful. But yeah, lore-wise she is.

    • @Platinum_Stars
      @Platinum_Stars 3 роки тому +3

      Jeanne is stronger for some reason...

    • @Dayviono
      @Dayviono 3 роки тому +1

      @@Platinum_Stars Quite peculiar indeed.

  • @camgeorge6222
    @camgeorge6222 5 років тому +29

    Jubielius still had enough power to destroy the universe all 3 despite being at half power.

  • @derekhogan9685
    @derekhogan9685 5 років тому +14

    They didn’t kill Bayonetta because she was the latest holder of the Left Eye.

  • @novadselir1068
    @novadselir1068 6 років тому +17

    Ahh Cereza your world is strange even by my standards.

  • @amalfi5000
    @amalfi5000 6 років тому +17

    Thanks for accepting Bayonetta. WIsh there would be a DMCxBayonetta crossover someday.
    Are you guys experts in fighting games? How about...
    - Killer Instinct
    - Bloody Roar
    - Darkstalkers
    - Mortal Kombat
    - Tekken
    - Soulcalibur
    - Street Fighter
    - Dead or Alive

    • @Mustafa_9628
      @Mustafa_9628 6 років тому +2

      My dream corssover is
      Dante and bayonetta game with them maybe having a child and the story is about him

  • @SebasTian58323
    @SebasTian58323 4 роки тому +5

    I think in a tweet, the creator said Bayonetta created an alternate timeline, but the changes affected her anyway or something. I found the quote "Kamiya: Well, another axis of time has been created so we have parallel worlds going on. So Bayo's world is Bayo's world, separate from this new world. The Eyes of the World are probably the only ones affected by both worlds." Bayonetta created another timeline in which that version of her didn't give up, but because she's one of the eyes of the world she gained the memories of that version of Bayonetta, is my interpretation of the tweet

  • @UnseelieFaelass
    @UnseelieFaelass 6 років тому +41

    Thanks for clearing this up. I was confused myself at the story. Course another game that confuses me is Pathologic. I don't understand the story no matter how many times I watch playthroughs or explanations. Maybe I'm just dumb or something?

    • @IsaacClodfelter
      @IsaacClodfelter 5 років тому

      Pathalogic is basically a prank of a story. They have you play their long game to unravel the story only the pull the rug out underneath you by flatout saying the agency and story freedom you were looking for was silly to begin with because you go in knowing everything is part of a written story with a planned ending. At least that is what I got out of it... I think. Pathalogic is werid.

    • @DeezNuts-hf2xm
      @DeezNuts-hf2xm 4 роки тому

      @@IsaacClodfelter ima be honest...i have no idea what you just said or what it means lmao.

    • @IsaacClodfelter
      @IsaacClodfelter 4 роки тому

      @@DeezNuts-hf2xm exactly!

  • @TheIvyBlade
    @TheIvyBlade 5 років тому +8

    Great explanations. Love how it switches between the two of you, the different voices keep it more entertaining, less likely to lose focus, lol. Unfortunately, I came here to understand why Bayonetta had guns on her shoes and why she acts so seductive in smash, this helped with neither haha. Very cool nonetheless

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  5 років тому +9

      If it helps: The "seductive" nature of her moves and personality just seems to mostly be her general character, and the guns on the shoes are a standard part of the Umbra Witch combat style, Jeanne, her mother and all the other Umbra Witches we see in combat, sport similar weapon loadouts.

  • @inmei2414
    @inmei2414 3 роки тому +2

    Probably the best explanation I’ve seen

  • @TuxedAaron
    @TuxedAaron 3 роки тому +1

    First of all, let me just say, VERY GOOD. I am all levels of impressed. You not only untangled the twists and turns of Bayonetta's story, but you clearly and concisely laid it out for anyone who might have played the games, but gotten lost along along the way. And believe me when I tell you, not everyone gets it right. Or at the very least, they don't present it anywhere nearly as succinctly as you did.
    If you don't mind, though, I think I might be able to fill in the blanks on a couple of questions you still had, regarding the story. The big one being, how was Bayonetta trained as an Umbra Witch when it was forbidden by the Clan? Well, there actually IS an answer to this, it's just only very subtly hinted at. When we go back to the first cutscene of "Chapter II - Vigrid: City of Deja Vu", in the first game, Bayonetta has a memory flashback to Jeanne's initiation into the Umbra Witch Clan. The Elder allows her to challenge any member to the Ceremonial Combat, but Jeanne shocks everyone in the room by challenging Cereza/Bayonetta instead. The Elder objects, since Cereza was fathered by a Lumen Sage and thus, was forbidden to be trained in the Umbran arts. But Jeanne stuns everyone still further when she announces, "This would not be the first time we have faced each other". Of course, this doesn't make a lot of sense at first, until later on, when it's revealed that Cereza and Jeanne were not rivals, but in fact, had been best friends since childhood. So when we read between the lines, the truth becomes apparent. JEANNE trained Cereza while they were growing up together. That's why their fighting styles are similar and why most of their Demon Summons are the same.
    I mean, it just makes sense. When Jeanne began her training and saw that Cereza wasn't included, well, think like you would when you were little. If you saw that your friend was being left out of something, you wouldn't think that was fair, would you? I'm sure that plenty of members of the clan tried to warn Jeanne, but being a little girl, she was far too young to understand what they were talking about. So, with a child's desire to be a good friend, every time she learned something new, she immediately turned around and taught it to Cereza.
    It's also why Jeanne specifically challenged Cereza to the Ceremonial Combat. The night was SUPPOSED to be all about Jeanne's induction into the Umbra Witch Clan. But Jeanne saw an opportunity and decided to flip the script, making the night CEREZA'S induction as well...to show everyone that this woman, who they all thought was so beneath them, was just as good as the best of them, if not better. Again, Jeanne didn't make the challenge out of rivalry, but out of friendship.
    That was really the main plot hole I wanted to fill. But there are a couple lesser ones I wanted to discuss as well. The first one being the question of how the timeline isn't altered, toward the end of the first game, despite crucial changes having been apparently made to the timeline...most notably Cereza being sealed away for 500 years.
    First of all, I'm just going to say, your account of Jeanne sealing Cereza away...you totally NAILED that. Of all the plot points in Bayonetta that people tend to get wrong, that's a BIG one. But you saw through it. Jeanne didn't seal Cereza out of jealousy or fear or even responsibility to the Clan. The truth is, in a really twisted way...she did it out of love. Because in her mind, she was thinking, "If anyone's going to sacrifice my best friend to save her soul, it's gonna be ME".
    That being said, let's move on to what I WANTED to talk about. But first, a bit of a disclaimer. Unlike the first point I discussed here, regarding Bayonetta's training, I have no evidence, directly or indirectly, that supports anything I'm about to say. It remains my own personal theory. But it's a theory that, for all intents and purposes, would appear to suit the available facts.
    Now, when the timeline shifts and Cereza ends up not being sealed away by Jeanne, basically, there are two interpretations for this event, both revolving around the fact that the Eyes of the World are the Overseers of History, so they can peer into time. One is that Balder brought Cereza forward in time to interact with her older self because that's what he saw happen and that interaction was essential for Bayonetta to remember what truly happened that night. Because she encountered her future self, it gave her the confidence to move forward and fight on after her mother was killed. So the initial flashback of Jeanne sealing her away that night was just a distorted memory and the final flashback with her and Jeanne standing together to fight off the invasion was her TRUE memory coming to the surface at last. The other interpretation is that Jeanne truly DID seal Cereza that night and Balder had her younger self interact with Bayonetta in order to give her the confidence boost that allowed her change her own history.
    Personally, my heart wants to believe that the former is the true interpretation, but my head keeps telling me that it's most likely the latter. In any case, both roads lead to the same destination, which is that Cereza wasn't Sealed at that precise moment, and that she and Jeanne escaped from the Angels' raid, which would seem to track with the events of the introductory cutscene, at the very start of the game. But in the aftermath, a new problem has arisen. Because Cereza had awakened to her power as an Overseer, she understood that her Sealing was a fixed point in history and something that still had to happen in order for the timeline to unfold as it should (damn those pesky predestination paradoxes). So even though they'd narrowly avoided catastrophe, Jeanne had to Seal her anyway. Something which we can imagine must have been truly heartbreaking for Jeanne. After all, it was one thing to do it in the heat of the moment. She could have done it then. But to do it later, to have to look her in the eye, maybe even have Cereza give her a loving smile right before the knife was plunged into her heart. The emotional devastation must have been almost unbearable*.
    (*That also explains a lot, regarding Jeanne's actions in the first game, because it wasn't just her memories being manipulated, but her emotions as well. All this rage she had against Bayonetta, yet at the same time, all this nurturing guidance...it all basically stemmed from the same feelings...a woman who, after 500 years of loneliness, just really, Really, REALLY wanted her best friend back.)
    That's pretty much everything I wanted to bring up, regarding plot holes in the first game. I mean, I could also talk about that point, before Jeanne's brainwashing, when she was in Japan, working as an English teacher, while at night, using her Umbran Witch powers to battle evil as the super hero, Cutie J. But I have no doubt that since your research was this thorough, you already came across it. And while it's really little more than a humorous little aside, I just thought I'd suggest that it would explain how Balder had managed to track Jeanne down, after 500 years. Just sayin'.
    Anyway, that brings me to the end of this long discussion. I hope you found it interesting and even insightful. Thanks for listening. ^_^

  • @Mustafa_9628
    @Mustafa_9628 6 років тому +8

    And i thought the lore of darksider was a mess
    Bayonetta said: hold my beer issac and tarren

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  6 років тому +3

      Lol. Kinda. :P

    • @Mustafa_9628
      @Mustafa_9628 6 років тому +1

      @@TrueMastersandMorons
      But thank you so much for your efforts
      Your lore videos are the best in youtube
      Cant wait for live gameplay of darksiders😂

  • @AuthoressPluto
    @AuthoressPluto 6 років тому +7

    Great job on the Bayo lore guys, I absolutely love the games but dear God the PLOT HOLES! How about some lore on Rodin? He's pretty cool and needs some time in the spotlight.

  • @tsukinoke7379
    @tsukinoke7379 4 роки тому +3

    I love these games but i never got the full story, so this was amazing.

  • @whip1720
    @whip1720 6 років тому +11

    I hope In the next bayonetta since she is half and half is able to make a pact with the angels too so she can summon both that makes perfect since
    And would add to her arsenal 💯💯

    • @dashi-musashi351
      @dashi-musashi351 5 років тому +7

      I doubt the angels of Paradiso would make a deal with one of the people responsible for permanently ridding the world of Jubelius. Also who would she fight?

  • @Sockpoppet
    @Sockpoppet 3 роки тому +1

    This is the first time I picked up this game. Reading through the found notes is hiding a rich and fascinating history of magic, witches and manipulation of reality. It goes into greater detail in-game, but I appreciate the summarized version presented in this video.💖

  • @ultknight3135
    @ultknight3135 6 років тому +4

    About time nice work guys

  • @GameLoot
    @GameLoot 6 років тому +5

    Thanks for this. Never played Bayonetta and then with the whole exclusive thing later on I kinda gave up on ever being able to (also while I like Hack and Slash I dislike ones that require too much skill or super high skill combos to play well... this is why I like the medium paced combat of Dakrsiders so much).

    • @dashi-musashi351
      @dashi-musashi351 5 років тому +3

      Eh, Bayonetta doesn’t require that much skill.

    • @satyrnmiller6305
      @satyrnmiller6305 4 роки тому

      Josh. If you’re a button masher, combat is still deep as hell, just like dmc.

  • @Mustafa_9628
    @Mustafa_9628 6 років тому +12

    Damn son
    Best lore video ever😂🤘

  • @FEKana
    @FEKana 3 роки тому +1

    I was always confused by the awakening of her eye. I didn't realize it was implied that her actions in the past had changed her current situation in Bayo 1. I'm a bit of a dumbass so thanks for clearing that shit up for me

  • @aureliodeprimus8018
    @aureliodeprimus8018 6 років тому +5

    Since you commented, that you enjoyed the Overlord series, how about a Lore lesson on the Overlord series?^^ Also, very nice video, always got a little confused when it comes to Bayonettas story.

  • @leahkoontz392
    @leahkoontz392 5 років тому +4

    So let me get this straight.... when Bayonetta returned to her own time, she had her memories of awaking and what previously occurred throughout the game BUT ALSO the memories of Cereza’s past reality?
    Please... any help would be vastly appreciated. I know it said Jeanne remembers her being sealed away so....
    😅

    • @TrueMastersandMorons
      @TrueMastersandMorons  5 років тому +1

      Full disclosure, you're not crazy, or missing something. As far as we can tell that's EXACTLY what happened. No it doesn't make sense... but that's what seems to have happened. It is exactly as confusing as you think it is, lol

    • @leahkoontz392
      @leahkoontz392 5 років тому +1

      @@TrueMastersandMorons Thank you very very much ;^-^

    • @lepidlover0557
      @lepidlover0557 5 років тому +1

      Maybe because her younger self ALSO had memories of being in the present, this protected Bayonettas memories of before what happened after the time switch.

    • @alraunedee8973
      @alraunedee8973 4 роки тому +3

      From what i understand:
      Bayonetta taught Cereza to keep what she loved close to her, this was her Umbran Watch, the symbol of a witches identity. When Cereza grew up, she kept that in mind. And kept her identity as a witch separate to her identity as a daughter. This meant that Rosa’s death did not affect her as badly as it once did. When Jeanne tries to seal her memories through the sacred dagger, the Umbran Watch protecting her heart had stopped her. Instead, the two remaining Umbran Sisters fought against the radiance of God.

  • @nathandotson7551
    @nathandotson7551 5 років тому +13

    Why the angels from Bayonetta look like demons?

    • @madkilla707
      @madkilla707 4 роки тому +4

      But they are actually demons

    • @oh.hey.2045
      @oh.hey.2045 4 роки тому +16

      That’s actually what angels in the Bible look like

    • @ladmclad673
      @ladmclad673 4 роки тому +17

      Modern day perceptions would have you think angels are just pretty people with wings, but biblical depictions had them appearing as some really eldritch shit. A mass of light with swarming wings protruding from it, a collection of constantly rotating flaming wheels covered in eyes, people with heads made of the faces of a bunch of different animals all together, etc.
      There’s a real damn good reason they say “Be not afraid” when they appear

    • @dantemiles689
      @dantemiles689 3 роки тому +1

      @@oh.hey.2045 You are only half right. Human angels are biblically accurate and they are the angels we humans would deal with.

    • @dantemiles689
      @dantemiles689 3 роки тому +1

      @@ladmclad673 You are only half right. Biblically accurate Angel's do look like pretty humans and those are the Angel's we as humans would deal with, the crazy ones your describing shouldn't deal with humans, some do and some occassions call for it but because of that fear factor and other reasons the lower tier Angel's deal with Earth and humanity this game just made them look evil so you wouldn't feel bad killing angels

  • @requiem7290
    @requiem7290 4 роки тому +4

    Guys i just beat hard mode, I'm gonna try to get to temprance on inf.climax

  • @fireflyer97
    @fireflyer97 3 роки тому

    I think that evil Baldur from the first game used the left eye present in young Cereza to essentially recreate the power of the right eye within himself. It would explain why he absorbed into his body Cereza in his boss fight.

  • @jimdotbeep
    @jimdotbeep 2 роки тому

    Why do so many people have the impression that Little Creza grew up to more confident than the player character and never went to sleep for 500 years. Where in either of the games did it ever say that? When the left eye awoke wasn't that because she had through practice and recovered memory regained her full power?

  • @youngsinatra2645
    @youngsinatra2645 3 роки тому +2

    titular character indeed

  • @jacobo6652
    @jacobo6652 4 роки тому +3

    If bayo 3 releases please make a plot explained of that

  • @casey1346
    @casey1346 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah we need a UA-cam video to know the game after playing the game

  • @NATEDOG
    @NATEDOG 6 років тому +3

    Please do a lore video on the infernal demons!

  • @brandonsnopeck1027
    @brandonsnopeck1027 4 роки тому +2

    Hey the sages have souls

  • @Zenabean69
    @Zenabean69 4 роки тому +1

    POV: its 2020 and still no bayo 3

  • @ramos6947
    @ramos6947 5 років тому +3

    Jeanne please

  • @0MujaKina0
    @0MujaKina0 6 років тому +9

    ( @True Masters and Morons )
    now let's talk about Bayonetta 3!
    the purple ghost in the trailer is Balder. you know guys!
    ( Asier The God Of Chaos/Loptr )
    In the present his soul wants to revenge against Bayonetta.
    Soo... some how he go back in time in the first game and later he kill Bayonetta!
    the weaker version of Bayonetta!
    but HEY! that was a theory! OF GAME THEORY!!!
    with Nurse Muja Kina!

  • @nokiaiamredvelvetofficial2692
    @nokiaiamredvelvetofficial2692 5 років тому +2

    i wonder is bayonetta could ever summon a angel

    • @lepidlover0557
      @lepidlover0557 5 років тому +2

      Because she's a witch. Her power is suited for summoning demons.

    • @im_learning_bicth
      @im_learning_bicth 4 роки тому +4

      @@lepidlover0557 true, but she’s technically a seraphim (I think that’s the right word?). Her Dad’s the Angel side while her Mom’s the Demon side, maybe she’s just not train in the Lumen ways that’s why she can’t do so

    • @MirandaWeaver
      @MirandaWeaver 3 роки тому +1

      @@im_learning_bicth I think it's nephilem

  • @Venixian
    @Venixian 3 роки тому

    5:35 wrong. Witches have left eye

  • @ninjammer726
    @ninjammer726 6 років тому +1

    please do a lore video on scorpion from mortal kombat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @animelovetothemax3854
    @animelovetothemax3854 3 роки тому

    So who did the eyes really belong to jubileus or lobtr who did the eyes really belong to

  • @subhankarsingh8611
    @subhankarsingh8611 5 років тому +2

    Bro what actually Eyes of the world do or capable of?

    • @alraunedee8973
      @alraunedee8973 4 роки тому +3

      Each clan possessed an Eye; together The Eyes of The World wielded the power of creation. Cereza, whom the umbran witches cared for, possessed the powers of the treasured Left Eye. When the two Eyes are brought together, the creator, Jubileus, will be resurrected and a new world will be born. It is both Heaven’s will and order that Jubileus should be come incarnate once more. Being on the side of Heaven, the Sages desired that this should come to pass, but the witches were against them, resulting in a conflict over the treasured left Eye.

  • @Mustafa_9628
    @Mustafa_9628 6 років тому +3

    I would say do a lore video about prince of persia but i know everything about that dude so i would pick....
    Ninja gaiden
    He is cool enough to do a lore video for him

  • @lucasAA927
    @lucasAA927 4 роки тому

    Hearing words in Spanish/Portuguese (People from the US pronounce they the same) is really weird, like, you don't need to say it's hell, inferno is hell

  • @AJ-kt5zo
    @AJ-kt5zo 6 років тому +1

    ❤💙💙💛

  • @werewolfgamer5651
    @werewolfgamer5651 6 років тому +1

    Why not do Rodin

    • @Dayviono
      @Dayviono 6 років тому +3

      Rodin gave ceraza her stage name Bayonetta

  • @Venixian
    @Venixian 3 роки тому +1

    Paradiso. 4 syllables. Not paradisio

  • @TheItsGab
    @TheItsGab 4 роки тому +1

    "Paradisio"

  • @dantemiles689
    @dantemiles689 3 роки тому

    I'll be honest didn't get the story in the game so much so I think that's a poor aspect of the game and the plot itself is filled with plot holes and other BS that makes me not like it. Atleast the gameplay is really good

  • @ryandavid1277
    @ryandavid1277 3 роки тому

    Thank God this game is about the combat, because the lore is awful lol