"WITH A TREMENDOUS ROAR !": 1963 Indy 500 NOVI succesful qual. attempt.
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- I am assured that the microphone did not do an excellent job...as this power plant' actually had a very high-pitched shrill, scream. Extremely Loud & almost irritating !
8,200 rpm was achieved on the long straights. The engine's crowd-pleasing sound was caused by its gear-driven centrifugal supercharger, which turned at more than five (5.35) times the crankshaft speed (43,870 RPM) , giving it a scream at full power. The engine's four camshafts and oversized-valve design also contributed to resultant sound.
The famous quote of Denis Jenkinson, made at Monza on 1957...where he first saw the NOVI run. It went like: "I'm shaken ! That was the greatest sight & sound that I have EVER experienced at a racing venue...or on any occasion ! Unbelievably magnificent. Almost frightening."
This 1963 event's START: • Hurtubise vs. Jones......
The audio is actually very good (for 1963), and captures the sound of the Novi as I remember from sitting in those very grandstands. There were two microphones, sitting on the north pit wall, pointed 180 degrees to each other, so they could capture the stereo sound of the car coming and going away. Fabulous!
yeah...amazing hand made engines from the Detroit 'burb...Unser, Russo, Hurtubise...jeeze; always the attraction...I lived off Ind 431...miles from the track...wind from the west back then...that windup on the backstretch..."hey, that's Russo..."
Many's the fine memory that you have, mon cheri ! 💋
Saw Duke Nalon put the #9 front drive in the field for the last time in 1953; we were sitting in the grandstand inside Turn 3!
NEAT, mon ami !
Wish I'd been there. Born in 58 but we lived not even a mile east of IMS off Tibbs & Lafayette road. I'm sure I heard the roadsters while outside playing. We moved in 61 about 2 miles n/north east of IMS. Can still hearem today. Probably can right now practice for tomorrow's Grand Prix
I remember the radio announcer for the race described the sounds of Indianapolis, "The whine of the Fords and Chevys, the high-pitched scream of the Novis, and the familiar low growl of the Offenhausers."
I love the recording technique they used to capture the car going around the track. I remember as a kid in the '70's listening to the Offy engines roaring down the back stretch. The doppler effect is amazing! Ear buds/head phones are a must!
Those Offys SCREAMED
Was there for the 1963 Indy 500; saw Hurtubisd take the lead over Parnelli Jones (right in front of us) to win Lap 1.
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My CHANNEL is named after this car.
Right you are, mon cheri, it is ! Wise man... 💋
Beautiful sound
Indeed!
I grew up in Indianapolis and actually watched this qualifying attempt LIVE in 1963. I was 11 years old.....
You are to be applauded...for your good fortune, mon ami ! Stay healthy.
You may have heard this also ?: ua-cam.com/video/KP7gGnHkzus/v-deo.html
Holy smokes!
My dad took me for last two days of practice and first day of qualifying in 64 when I was 10. Always in middle of turn 4, high up.
Born and in Indy. I really learned to appreciate the 500 when I was in the Army in the 80's. Listened to it growing up while working in the garden. Nice memories. It is not the same without Tom Carnegie and Jim Nabors.
@@dallisb1047 I have a similar story. Born in the Indianapolis area, I never attended a race before I entered the military. After discharge I moved out of state, and attended my first 500 in 1984. I haven't missed one since (with the exception of 2020) and moved "Back home again" in 2016 after I retired.
HERK, Bobby's team mate was our hometown hero back in buffalo NY
I love to think that he, and Jane, were quite the dancers at the Polka Bars of that region.
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Loved Herk in the #56 Frito- Lay roadster
I always wanted to hear a Novi. Thanks for sharing this little bit of racing history.
Glad you enjoyed it
The greatest sound in racing history!Beautiful!
The late Denis Jenkinson, British Racing author, said the same after he first heard its engine-note in Italy, 1957. "Race of Two Worlds."
Guys like Hurtubise would often pass everybody in the straights but they were a handful around the curves enough to get passed back. If you got killed in one without help from anybody else's mistake it was probably from fighting that beast through the curves to keep the lead it gave you down the straight. That centrifugal blower was huge. If they rnade 'em with much compression I can see why the stress on everything from motor running gear out to the wheels. Stouter parts make weight that's going to affect handling those through the curves. The Novis that had front wheel drive and four wheel drive were even heavier and didn't seem to compensate. Novi shoes that led 'until they broke, crashed or came in fourth must've been pushing their luck with some intensity. And they were still my favorite cars just to follow from afar.
So I am told, mon ami !
NOVI...what a sound! Thanks for posting this gem!
Oui, monsieur...Dennis Jenkinson said that it WAS the best race car engine note that he ever heard !
@@amelierenoncule my best friend's dad went to Indy...not sure what year...and said he would never forget the NOVI sound. You could clearly hear it among all of the others.
Imagine reliving that day with that sound and a track dog
Oui ! A century from now, some will utter a similar sentiment about this era.
Godspeed Bobby!
“Ice cold coca-cola!” in the background. What a fantastic recording. Thank you.
Oui !...and what a charming and intriguing user-name ('handle') you've chosen.
@@amelierenoncule Thank you. However, I am still looking for the ying to my yang - “oyesiwill”
Make it a woman, mon ami. i.imgur.com/On7FgMM.jpg
I miss hearing Tom Carnegie's voice.
It is part of your good fortune, mon ami, that you once did. MOST people have never done so ! i.imgur.com/rgu4D0X.png
@@amelierenoncule I heard in it person, several times! I live in Indianapolis.
I envy you for that experience.
Thanks for posting! Novi, Unser and Indy!
Oui, mon ami ! I am given to understand the it was a 'magical' period of Indy history.
Many thanks for sharing this. The NOVI's were special even though they weren't successful. I cannot imagine electric cars silently running around here, it would never be the same.
I agree with you
The lack of sound was part of the sanctioning body’s reason for putting in rules that killed the Granatelli turbines after two years. I was at both Indy 500’s in which the Granatelli turbines competed!
Quel bonheur d'écouter la voix de Tom Carnegie indissociable d'Indy 500. J'ai moi même joué du magnéto lors de mes quelques passages à Indy 500 afin de me l'écouter "les soirs d'hiver à Paris"... Merci Amélie
Merci beaucoup ! La vôtre est une histoire identique à celle de mon prêtre de village, à Kirov, Kaluzhskaya Oblast', Russie, qui était celui qui m'en a donné une copie. 💋 i.imgur.com/DGWkcCn.png
Novi had great power. Handling not so good.
Actually, mon cheri...it's downfall was poor engine reliability. It's handling was okey-dokey. ❤
This recording is priceless!
Every age has its' own peculiar scenes, and sporting events are no exception. But motor sport is a unique blend of Sight and Sound, so much so that a silent film of a racing event arouses interest in rather an academic way, whereas noise, with its' symbolism of power, evokes the strongest emotion.
You could not only hear, but “feel” the Novi go by; it actually created a concussion of sound and power. I was lucky to hear it as a teenager growing up in Indiana. It took an extremely brave driver to pilot it at IMS...
So I have been told, mon ami !
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An insane amount of courage and skill involved here. Fantastic video, thanks for posting.
Allow me to file a writ of Amicus curiae, and agree with you.
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I was there in 1963. The Novi made such beautiful noise!
Which infield corner were you near, mon ami ? i.imgur.com/cpmlS40.png
Does anybody know if there's a scale model of this car available?? Preferably a diecast with a swinging engine hood to view the engine?
Mon ami, 6 years ago I made intensive inquires and such was NOT available. The major makers said that to do so now would be too expensive a task.
BUT...: www.ebay.com/itm/1-43-BUILT-STP-Novi-ART-MALONE-Indianapolis-63-/193874653385
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@@amelierenoncule thank U for taking the time to respond.
That NOVI was a real screamer! That gorgeous sound!
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FYI: I've read that when the Granattelis took over the Novis they redesigned the blower for efficiency. The impeller was smaller, so therefor tip-speed slower, and gone was the high-pitched shriek.
Of interest, that, mon ami ! i.imgur.com/GVImUEq.png
Granatelli also used the Ferguson all-wheel drive system to try to harness the horsepower and apply it to the track.
shucks...
I was there in ‘63 when Jim Hurtubise, Bobby Under and Art Malone all qualified (on different days) and can assure you that piercing howl was there in full song. Probably why I have some of the hearing loss I enjoy today.
Always proves nothing is new..hemi head, 4 valve per, overhead cam, supercharged, some even had 4 wheel drive.. those guys were so smart..as also been said..”no one told them it wouldn’t work”
Thanks for this, been searching for the sound of one for ages. You can hear how loud they are over the other cars on the '63 start video you posted too. The 10" centrifugal supercharger the novi ran is massive, different tech but current prochargers with a similar 10.5 volute are rated between 1300-1600hp. Not surprised the microphone didnt have the frequency response at that frequency to pick it up... I definitely wish i was around to at least watch motorsport in the 60's. '67 is my favorite.
Mon ami, my God-father, 'The Ancient One', i.imgur.com/DRupJ7T.png
DID experience the Sight & Sound of this machine. And is in full agreement with your statement 'bout its' sound. He too says that it was more of a 'ear-splitting' shriek.
BTW, Dennis Jenkinson (RIP), claimed that, after hearing it in '57 at Monza, it was the most thrilling, greatest, motor car sound that he ever heard...or would hear.
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He's a lucky man, another car the 1.5 BRM v16 would be one to hear too. Also centrifugal supercharged, in this clip ua-cam.com/video/rRNoRlLlsD8/v-deo.html you can hear the changes in note depending on the direction of the car towards the mic. Can only imagine what this monster sounded like, just wish someone would run a novi powered car hard today and be recorded with a modern mic. The note from the exhaust of the novi sounds a lot like some of the big power (12-1500whp) k & f-series turbo hondas in america.
I can't say I was there but I lived in Chicago and watched it on TV Probably as close as I wanted to get.
I'm given to understand that the motorcar trip to the event...and then, back again, can be half the fun. OR, lead to a week in jail !
that was awesome! what a sound and how brave those men were!
Oui, mon ami. However THEY would exclaim, in a likewise fashion about entering the turns, now at Indy, at over 200 mph.
The Novi really deserved to win Indy , it would have been something
You utter the truth, mon ami ... and the sentiments of many !
You don't have to apologize for anything! It's so fun. I remember hearing stories about the Novi......
Not an apology, cheri...merely a descriptive explanation, meant to clarify.
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RIP Bobby Unser
RIP Tom Carnegie
Yayyyyyyyy for Noviiiii !
RIGHT, mon ami ! BTW, in you thumb nail pic, you are wearing a Cossack, landowner's top coat ?: i.imgur.com/8AgKYBL.png
Wonderful!! Thank you so much for posting. They were the crowd favorite, but never won the Indy 500. I remember them from the late 50's and early 60's. My favorite Indy car. I had post cards and pictures of the drivers and the cars - Ralph Hepburn, Duke Nalon, Paul Russon, Tony Bettenhausen, Jim Hurtubise, Bobby Unser, and the others.
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Merci, mon amour !
The START:
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My dad's favorite Indy car, too. I've got a black & white 8 x 10 he took of a late 50's Novi going backward/ spinning. I became a fan, too, especially of the aerodynamics of the Winged One. In '73, I was a Cub Scout and it was time for the annual Pinewood Derby. Dad showed me a post card of the Novi- you know, the blue one- and we made one of our own. It was a red #16 Novi Special and it very soundly beat a field of 30 - 40 cars. Absolutely DOMINATED that year! In '74, I was a Weblo and decided on another Novi, lower profile hood and wing, a metal flake green #1. Dad had already thought ahead and brought the red #16, trophy, newspaper article, etc from last year, so when I was accused of simply repainting last year's car, he supplied the evidence. So, just to rub their faces in it, I took the trophy that year as well! Novi aerodynamics, baby! That was the only difference between some 60 - 80 cars over two years. Almost, but not quite the trouncing they took the year before, but I was an unpopular loner and winning the Pinewood Derby the only two years I entered was priceless! Hats off to the body design team! They helped make a cheerful memory in my life. Too bad they never got the chassis/ drive train right, because they were spot- on with the body and engine.
Went to Dinner twice with Hurtubise, he was a riot, could put away some Miller High Life
....and Art Malone too.
In 1964, he started 30th, and finished 11th. He did a fantastic job!
@@thevmanvj Yes, Art Malone did a great job. He was originally a drag racer. In 1963 his Novi was from the previous (mid 1950's) generation.
I was probably there, since my family usually went to all 4 days of qualifications. Notice how it took about half a lap for the lap speed to be reported. The Novi "scream" gave a lot of race fans goosebumps, including me.
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Those memories are to be coveted and held dear, mon amour !
My God-father says that one could stand about (sit ?) in the infield, and follow those beasts, lap-after-lap...with their ears ! When no longer were they heard, it was presumed that they were pitting...or had 'blown-up' [SIGH].
@@amelierenoncule as I watched this today, I was thinking that I should post something about being there as a you guy. The comments I posted 6 years ago are exactly what I was thinking when I watched this again.
This recording is so good its like I am actually there.
Albeit, I am assured that the microphone did not do an excellent job...as this power plant' actually had a very high-pitched scream. Extremely Loud & almost irritating !
BTW...how do you acquire 16 subscribers with zero content? Do you also post on Google+ ?
Its in stereo too! Moves from speaker to speaker
So the micophone distorts the car's sound and not Tom Carnagie's voice?
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As I gather, mon cheri, the upper range of the audio scale it failed to secure & replicate faithfully...so I have been assured. And the 'ole farts' who heard the engine's scream, in full-song, agree !
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I'm one of those old farts and I completely don't agree... You are thinking of the turbo-charged novi... Bobby's car in this recording was not turbocharged - I was there that day this was recorded, sitting in the stands and this is EXACTLY how it sounded... non turbo-charged. I suggest you find better resources in the future.
I remember that sound/... No, not the Novi-- Which is a shame, it's that other sound I recognize - that of a record player, which I guess was the form factor of choice for recording sound in them days. I guess it has a little scratch! Thanks so much for posting.!
Oui, the 'vinyl-scratches' add a sort of nostalgic ambiance. I could have negated them, but chose not to for that reason.
@@amelierenoncule Oui, how you say - I couldn't agree more but future listeners may not recognize it if they are life long digital listeners. This artifact will tell them what they are hearing. Merci Mon Ami.
@@GregBrownsWorldORacing Future events and reactions are not for us to be concerned about...except in an intra-spatial sense.
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This is from an album of the 1963 Indianapolis 500. My Dad had it and my brother and I loved it. It had the race plus this qualification attempt.
Oui, mon amour !
A Russian-priest friend, who was a huge 'Indy fan' (go figure), gifted me with a cassette-tape copy of his. In Russia we two would listen to the event on the American AFRTS network.
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I’m grateful for this posting, because even if the sound wasn’t replicated with 100% realism, dangit, we now know pretty much how a Novi sounded. Even if one runs again, it’ll never be run to full angry mode. And I also know how to pronounce “Hurtubise”. Bonus!
Dang it, mon ami, you ARE right !
Did you also view & listen to this one ?: ua-cam.com/video/KP7gGnHkzus/v-deo.html
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I'd say Bobby got all there was to get out of the car.
And vice-versa !...mon ami.
The ringtone on my cellphone is the NOVI engine screaming it's loudest and proudest. I get some strange looks from people who have no idea what it is.
You are to be lauded, monsieur ! BTM (But Tell Me), what is the source of the audio... & any crackling ?
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I found it on CompuServer about 20 years ago. I don't hear any crackling. I sounds just like I remember it being when I was at the Speedway in the 60's.
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Can you produce a short-video (HD), using it as the audio? Nothing elaborate, as the audio solely interest me.
I'll see if I can find the original wave file.
I've been using it as my text tone for about a year now- yeah, that does confuse people!
Wonderful car! Look at the different sizes of the tires. The rear tires seem to have larger radius than the fronts. The left front tire seems to be larger than the right front tire, too.
Thank you, mon ami, for your input. Re. the various tyre sizes, I am given to believe that that (I just love the American "that that"!), was a common-place arrangement for the speedway cars of that era. i.imgur.com/On7FgMM.jpg
It was a way to " stagger " the chassis. Centrifugal forces would try to push the cars to the outside of the track, this was done to counteract those forces . If the tires had caught up with the Novi's potential a few years sooner.....
stagger...still works
I have this LP in both mono and stereo. Sounds awesome on my stereo system.
Hi TheScarab1975,
I'm working on a documentary in which someone mentions the sound of the Novi and we want to include it in the film but we can't find a good recording. Being that the sound of the Novi is the first or second thing people mention when they talk or write about it, you'd think SOMEONE would have thought to record it. Although this 1963 recording doesn't seem to do justice to what it actually sounded like, it's the only isolated one we've found. Unfortunately the LP recording is very dirty.
Would you be willing to send us a transfer of your stereo version if your LP is cleaner? Though I can't promise it'll make you famous, you'd get a 'thank you' credit at the end for sure.
'RIP' the audio and upload it to your UA-cam channel...for all to hear !
Most of the folks who followed Indianapolis type car racing for many decades will admit that the unique NOVI powered cars were fun to listen to and admire in body design. My first year of actually seeing any inside the famous I.M.S. track was in 1963. It was the first day of time trials and my parents and I were in the small grandstand between turns three and four. I was about 13 then and throughly enjoyed that day watch many of open wheel auto racing's great legends. Jimmy Clark became my favorite from that day onward to even now. But...New York state driver, Jim Hurtibise was a sensation to watch along with Parnelli Jones. They did their qualifications into the low 150's. Bobby Unser may have tried that day...at least the next day of that first weekend of trials. Anyway...his car was a beauty. It was quite sad to see that only a few times a NOVI powered car made the finish of that or any Indy style race in the years those cars raced.
As you, mon ami, are most knowledgeable about this race car, then you are probably aware of the famous quote of Denis Jenkinson, made at Monza on 1957...where he first saw the NOVI run. It went like: "I'm shaken ! That was the greatest sight & sound that I have EVER experienced at a racing venue...or on any occasion ! Unbelievably magnificent. Almost frightening."
Glorious noise
You are SO correct, mon ami ! Here is another example of same:
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Ta Ta ! 💋
R.I.P. Tom Carnagie... God that sounds good...Thanks..
He was the master. I like Calabro but he is irritating. Jenkins far better.
Leave off “attempt” in caption. Bobbie Unser in #6 Novi qualified successfully for the 1963 Indy 500 as shown/heard in/on this video!
The English language is not my primary one, mon ami.
greatest indy video here.....what a find
Mon amour: The event's START:
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Rest in peace Bobby Unser.
Oui, mon ami...and may that for which he hoped be given him, according to the great kindness of our bountiful God, Who asks for little and bestows great things upon those who truly love Him.
Don't forget that the track was driven much different than today. Today the corner speed are so high . An old saying " 2 mph increase in the corner adds up to 10 mph on the straights" The NOVI was an animal on the straights , but chassis design & those narrow tires of that day would not allow high corner speeds. Brave drivers .
“ I had a lot of fun with the Novis, but my luck was very bad.”
- Bobby Unser -
At the time he crashed the car, his skill was quite poor.
@@amelierenoncule Now that's a helluva thing for you to say to me. -- Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer) to Wyatt (Kurt Russell), Tombstone 1993.
I am assuming your true response was lost in translation, you know as well as anyone that like his brethren, Bobby very rarely, if ever, made mistakes and his skillset was beyond reproach. He was a better driver than the Novi was a car. I grew up 8000 ft from the IMS backstretch and was there ALL.THE.TIME thru the 1960s.
Your assessment of the sound systems' inability to capture the Novi song is accurate but the supercharger was but one small section in that symphony.
@@stoichiometric-1184 Well, mon ami, I just "calls 'em, as I sees 'em"... and knowing the amounts of the separate reactants, I then calculated the amount & variety of the product-outcome.
Somewhat like: Mg(OH)2 + 2HNO3 → Mg(NO3)2 + 2H2O.
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And anyway, Kurt Russell, is not all that cute...as he once was.
I was just a kid back then you’re one of my favorite drivers I still remember getting goosebumps the stands vibrating as you went bye that’s something you just can’t forget some of my fondest memories thanks Bobby
I would say in 1964 his luck was very good he could of easily been killed with Sachs & McDonald.
I believe it has a lot to do with where exactly the microphone is positioned. In 1964 we were sitting in the infield grandstand about a quarter of the length of the pit road from the pit entrance. We were about two thirds of up in the stands and the Novi's sounded much louder and much higher pitched. I would best describe as a "schreik" type sound so loud that it would drown the noise of the Offy's when the Novi would be among them! You did not have to be looking at the track to know when a Novi was accelerating. This recording does not catch the distinctive Novi sound and really sounds rather similar to other cars. This is in part due to amount of other sounds being picked such wind noise, echo effect from the race track and the "valley" created by the inner and outer grandstands indicating microphone placement somewhere high, probably in the Pagoda close to or at the same level as the announcers. Thus the sound heard here is very similar to what was heard over the radio broadcast. Having listened to the broadcast every year that I could recall (dad ALWAYS had the race broadcast on). I was totally amazed at how different cars, especially the Novi's sounded at the track. Don't get wrong, they all sounded good but that very distinctive Novi sound did not come through like it did at track side.
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Oui, mon cheri ! EVERYTHING you say is confirmed by my ancient God-father, "Hollywood Ronnie"...who began spectating there in 1947.
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full of shit
around the '60s Dad used to have Hi-Fi (or 78RPM?) vinyl/shellac records of race cars. Would love to hear good microphones picking up that Novi shriek!
But then again I could be out with THX sound equipment trying to record the sweet noise the vintage Shadow Can-Am cars make at Kettle Bottoms, Elkhart Lake WI....
Oui monsieur, I am given to understand that in America, in that era, race car recording were plentiful.
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Bobby Q'd 12th fastest in a very tight field. Dangerous Dick (not Jim) Rathman made yet another over-aggressive move on the third lap in front of Bobby, causing him to lose control and crash. Hurtubise fell out on lap 102 with an oil leak. So far as I know, Indy "super" veterans Ralph Hepburn, Herb Ardinger, Duke Nalon and Paul Russo were the only drivers who drove the beast the distance to a top five finish. Hepburn later died in one; and Nalon came close.
Thank you, mon ami, for this comment !
I would ask you about that 'naughty' part of your name...but shall await your telling of that story. And you had better make it GOOD. I was a French Marine for almost 6 years. i.imgur.com/8femfZq.jpg
Chet Miller was killed in the NOVI in 1953
@@davidstout8604 Such is the plight of all men...to die, I mean.
Does anyone know what RPM the Novi was doing on the straight?
Mon ami... 8,200 rpm was achieved on the straights. The engine's crowd-pleasing sound was caused by its gear-driven centrifugal supercharger, which turned at more than five (5.35) times the crankshaft speed (43,870 RPM), giving it a scream at full power. The engine's four camshafts and oversized-valve design also contributed to resultant sound. i.imgur.com/HL6ifgn.jpg
@@amelierenoncule Thank you, That's really singing, I know the Novi was not big on displacement but made tremendous power, quite the beast and a lot of technology for the time
This record album of the 1963 Indy 500 had a small color picture inside of the album of each car in the starting 33 car field...
A Right & Proper inclusion, mon cheri !
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BTW, some years past, when I was detached with 3e Régiment d'Infanterie de Marine, 3e RIMa (3rd French Marine Infantry Regiment), and in No. Africa, I saw a "Joe Shmoe" written upon a wall in the restroom...was that you ?
You could hear these all the way around the track
So I'm told, mon ami ! They must have been the favourite of the blind fans. 💋
@@amelierenoncule pretty stupid remark, I was there during the 60 s, and I can see just fine thank you
How exactly, HOW you have come to believe that the blind-reference was directed personally at you is obtuse & puzzling. It was a generalized observation of a varied fandom.
And IF you think that there are not blind racing fans, I shall escort you, along with my husband, to many such European events, especially Le Mans, where there can be found many. 💋
@@amelierenoncule I do apologize, I did take it personally, I've been going to Indy for 56 years, 30 of those with my brother who was blinded in 2002 and refused to go back, it hurt me but it was his decision and I had to respect it, again I am sorry for being so sensitive.
You ARE a person of honour and integrity, mon amour ! A pleasure knowing you.
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The Indy 500 cars have been getting progressively less interesting since these great 60's USAC years.
Yeah they were just as good under CART for a few years......
But the show is merely a shadow of its former self nowadays with all there identical Dallara crap wagons.
These kids don't know what they are missing.
Oui, mon ami. I be terribly fond of the '30's & '40's when those buggies were called "Specials"...most being home-made, in a backyard garage...by astute, amateur mechanicians.
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@@amelierenoncule Yes Amelie. Me too. The 60's and 70's were the best years. When Indy cars became all identical Dallara cars, built in a factory in Italy, I stopped watching.
Amelie where did you get this recording? I remember the Novis. I was at the 500 in 1963. Breaking the 150 mph barrier was a big deal!
A Russian-priest friend, who was a huge 'Indy fan' (go figure), gifted me with a cassette-tape copy of his. In Russia we two would listen to the event on the American AFRTS network.
You, mon amour, may also find interest in this one:
ua-cam.com/video/KP7gGnHkzus/v-deo.html
imgur.com/3h3leks
Do you realize what you have here? For Indy nutcases like us this recording is simply incredible.
Thank you, cheri !
i.imgur.com/eG7zIGz.jpg
BTW...do you compete at Farmer city raceway ?
One of my Rally efforts: ua-cam.com/video/iBlC7PIJdNI/v-deo.html
Oui...
Hotel Tropicana
...Special.
I wonder if that Unser kid ever amounted to anything...
That said, I love today's Indy car racing, but can't help missing the innovation and the variety of engines, chassis and home-built creations that would come to the track. That's not just the case in Indy car racing, but pretty much ALL top-level racing has lost that. Sure, the racing is closer, and thankfully a lot safer, but the rule books have pretty much eliminated thinking outside the box.
And the crowd says, AMEN !
I just wonder if any of these engines still run?
These people have the only known one, mon ami:
ua-cam.com/video/FBHBmq7bnHs/v-deo.html
ALSO: ua-cam.com/video/wkEX3l-IWa8/v-deo.html
This is so cool. I think I read that Unser was paid $1500.00 to drive this race.
About the 2 min. & 40 sec. mark of:
ua-cam.com/video/zN2EDQvAv6M/v-deo.html
Scott B $2000
I used to play the Indy 500 Legends game on Wii. It is extremely hard to drive it. I crashed it a lot of times and I mean a lot
Oui, mon ami, that 'game' was horrible ! Even the updated one for the XBOX 360,
'Indy 500 Evolution' (by the same company), was a turd.
Never happen of course, but think how cool it would be if all of a sudden it was mandated that all IndyCars had to run a Novi?
A SYMPHONY of sorts...mon ami !
Okay, mes amis ! Who were the 22 bozos' who disliked this...where they expecting a church-social ? A tedious, WOKECAR (nascar) event ? 💋
Just looking at the headers,, weird. They cannot flow very well. And by this time there was no real secret in exhausts
Do you reference, mon ami, the '4 into 1'...or the lengths ?
The Novi V8 had a flat 180-degree crankshaft and both sides act like separate 4 cylinders & can’t benefit as much exhaust scavenging tuning.
I bet they scavenge plenty at 8000 rpm though.
Unlike the Ford GT40, with a naturally aspirated cross plane crank & dual plane intake, the engine benefits greatly from the iconic “bundle of snakes” type headers.
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9_Boillot
André Boillot. Marcenac was one of the mecanics...amongs else...
Here in France, mon ami, they were referred to as 'mechanicians'. An early, vis a vie motorcars, term that was used....and still is, somewhat.
i.imgur.com/AequljL.jpg
DGSE ? ouah ! the french CIA !!!
Sorry ! so , mechanicians...jean Marsenac was born in france in 1895. he come to indy in 1920. with the Ballot team. Later setting in America, Marcenac was the crew chief for Indy winner in 1927, 1929 1930 and 1932. He took over technical responsability for the Novis after Bud Winfield's death in a road accident in november 1950.
What is not generally known,even among his fans, was that he was a noticeably great athlete. After coming to your country, and seeing his first baseball game, he himself, almost instantly, became a player great enough to have been a professional player...if he chose to be, which he did not. Girls & Cars !: "Ah, ze Women !", as he would often say.
1min 50secs
I got legit scared
YOU, mon ami, should have been there ! It would have been-a-sight to see you during a panic attack.
BTW, how do you feel that you would react to a mortar/artillery attack ?: ua-cam.com/video/JiHn5kqBkVg/v-deo.html
Boillot , Peugeot, were as good as Bugatti....
Twin overhead camshaft and so on...they have understood everything except the chassis...
And here is a 'P-car' that I competed with. It employed a stiff & acceptable chassis...although they did over-steer:
ua-cam.com/video/iBlC7PIJdNI/v-deo.html
new subscriber....a girl..??? I think I'm infatuated....thank you ❤️❤️
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Merci, mon amour !
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