a Non-Contractual Marvel Rivals review

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  • @TheSpaceCowboy06
    @TheSpaceCowboy06 4 місяці тому +5684

    I'm glad they went for a more pvz garden warfare style
    Those games are underrated as hell

    • @mrblaze-xv6fv
      @mrblaze-xv6fv 4 місяці тому +100

      So true

    • @MorbyLol
      @MorbyLol 4 місяці тому +125

      holy shit its axl low

    • @calmsquirrel7124
      @calmsquirrel7124 4 місяці тому +4

      Ong

    • @paperluigi6132
      @paperluigi6132 4 місяці тому +22

      @@MorbyLoltime to bust out the HC.

    • @MasterMemo
      @MasterMemo 4 місяці тому +34

      Bro, I wish I would have played that game more. Conker's Bad Fur Day remake (Conker Live and Reloaded) had a mode like that and it was so fun

  • @thengamer88
    @thengamer88 4 місяці тому +9882

    Can’t be an “overwatch killer” if overwatch is already dead

    • @A-0-K-GAMER
      @A-0-K-GAMER 4 місяці тому

      Shut the F up to you we all know Overwatch is already dead. If you want a better game, go play team fortress two and shut your mouth and go play Fortnite.

    • @anthonybarnes7667
      @anthonybarnes7667 4 місяці тому +644

      Overwatch Killer = Blizzard

    • @dragonstormx
      @dragonstormx 4 місяці тому +92

      Then will it be the Overwatch replacement?

    • @MasterMemo
      @MasterMemo 4 місяці тому +222

      It's not dead as much as people want it to be...maybe on life support...but it's not dead.

    • @derangedfreackingtwistedps5048
      @derangedfreackingtwistedps5048 4 місяці тому +57

      "TF2 grave robber" perhaps

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 4 місяці тому +1764

    As a game designer, that team-up mechanic is extremely fascinating to me. It has the potential to create some crazy gameplay variety, but at the cost of some huge risks: players feeling like they can only play a hero if the team-up is available, players getting mad at teammates for not picking a hero that creates a team-up, team-ups being generally extremely hard to balance because they can't be easily accounted for, etc.
    The only solution I can think of is to create a truly insane number of team-ups so you're usually benefiting from one, then ensuring each and every one is balanced enough to feel viable. Much easier said than done!
    As cool as the mechanic is, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing gets scrapped before release.

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +305

      If they have enough characters and keep making them it would be sick and make the game super complex and fun, we shall see though

    • @Zeromaru42
      @Zeromaru42 4 місяці тому +152

      I think it could be really awesome if the game encouraged people to run Teams of Characters associated with each other. Like imagine if every character is apart of the Mainline Avengers. Instead of just two characters getting a buff, it's everyone on that team and they just get a smaller one to compensate. Hulk and Wolverine getting the Fastball Special together seems like a no brainer. A Hulk being able to just use a Wolverine player as a high damaging projectile that enables them to also close the distance could be devastating. Venom potentially buffing Spider-Man with the Black Suit would be awesome too. I think that would go a long way in making every character Viable at least on the Casual Level, iff they had thematical partners for them.
      To this end, fuck Role Queue all my Homies hate Role Queue. If you let everyone play what they want to play and give incentives for synergy, you'll have more True Team Variety than you ever will with a system like Role Queue.

    • @sizedoesntmeaneverything4157
      @sizedoesntmeaneverything4157 4 місяці тому +39

      @@Zeromaru42 I actually never thought about team synergies being a nice buffer for the shitty role queue. I am in the camp that thinks they need to do something about the team ups because it will get worse if they just let it be as it is.

    • @iknowwhereyoulive618
      @iknowwhereyoulive618 4 місяці тому +8

      @@Zeromaru42 my issue with this is that it potentially limits comp variance

    • @yeowch419
      @yeowch419 4 місяці тому +6

      I hope that they keep it as other games do map destruction better so it wouldnt have its own unique thing therefore very unlikely it goes anywhere I see it as having great potential for e sports even more so than OW as imagine seeing 6 perfectly crafted teamups in one game

  • @MishapYoutub
    @MishapYoutub 4 місяці тому +5358

    what if instead of marvel rivals it was called marvel freaks and instead of shooting webs spider-man ate ass

    • @quandaledingle4170
      @quandaledingle4170 4 місяці тому +371

      Cookin 👀

    • @kriioflame2249
      @kriioflame2249 4 місяці тому +131

      @@Jriniscoolno it isn’t

    • @_s.o.l_
      @_s.o.l_ 4 місяці тому +72

      Bro said "no it isnt"😂😂😂

    • @MeroFuruyaSankarea
      @MeroFuruyaSankarea 4 місяці тому +94

      I'm promoting you to head chef

    • @Jriniscool
      @Jriniscool 4 місяці тому +2

      @@kriioflame2249 it’s been used to death for the past month lol

  • @Xynbra
    @Xynbra 4 місяці тому +2456

    Honestly just saying that the characters feel like GW characters is enough to get me interested in trying it when it releases

    • @Xedlord
      @Xedlord 4 місяці тому +81

      Yeah that game's a classic

    • @TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt
      @TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt 4 місяці тому +81

      GW3 will probably never happen so if it really does feel like GW I hope it's a good replacement

    • @plugboijohnny
      @plugboijohnny 4 місяці тому +12

      Facts! The way the UI is it looks like neighborville

    • @carlos8361
      @carlos8361 4 місяці тому +3

      Respectfully, I have many hours in GW and this game felt nothing like that to me. Maybe it'll be different for your though. Either way I do think it is a fun game

    • @bzibubabbzibubab420
      @bzibubabbzibubab420 4 місяці тому

      what is gw

  • @Toxic_Rain88
    @Toxic_Rain88 4 місяці тому +569

    One like I like about the 3rd person is if you choose to buy skins you will actually be able to see them instead of just seeing there hand/weapons like overwatch

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +82

      This is very true

    • @S0UPIE
      @S0UPIE 4 місяці тому +26

      Maybe in just too competitive but regardless of if its 3rd, 1st or even platformer, I am not looking at my character when I'm playing. That's honestly why I prefer first person. You get more screen real estate and you don't get any crosshair perspective fuckery. The most important part about my skin is what is shows to other people.

    • @Toxic_Rain88
      @Toxic_Rain88 4 місяці тому

      Depends on how u play I liked the pvz games so Im fine with this ​@@S0UPIE

    • @thatginger6839
      @thatginger6839 4 місяці тому +71

      ​@@S0UPIEim the opposite haha, my skin is for me and me alone, I have more fun playing if I can see myself playing in it

    • @hayond656
      @hayond656 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@thatginger6839 Same

  • @animegx45
    @animegx45 4 місяці тому +1224

    "Overwatch Killer" is just an alternate name to "Hero Shooter".
    I also love how this game has flying heroes that, and this is a first amongst any game I've seen, that have infinite flight. I love that.

    • @Papa-Truck-Kun
      @Papa-Truck-Kun 4 місяці тому +107

      That's something incredibly well worth mentioning, so kudos on that. I think a lot of games want to limit the player (rightfully so as part of gameplay for all videogames is the strengths + limitations of whomever you're playing) by only giving limited flight, but fail to recognize that unlimited flight adds new dynamics to the game while still ultimately being a limitation. Always flying means there's certain covers and escapes you can never take, and also that you'll often be a decently easy target.

    • @oranberry
      @oranberry 4 місяці тому +52

      yeah that's the internet for you. most people are too brainrotted to know what a "genre" is and think every game is just copying. every new platform fighter is a "smash killer", every hero shooter is an "overwatch killer", etc. etc. its just stupid and people need to fix their shit

    • @truthseeker7815
      @truthseeker7815 4 місяці тому +9

      @@oranberry, to be fair, if DC suddenly starts developing a hero shooter it would look suspicious

    • @pixavier9746
      @pixavier9746 4 місяці тому +8

      ​​@@truthseeker7815is just competency, its clear that if Marvel is trying to make a hero shooter, genre that is in absolute decline with the state of it's two biggest contenders (OW and Paladins), and the cancelation/abandonment of many other games (battleborn, GW, Splitgate...) that *could* be succesful, DC will also try to make their own Game... It's the same as in the movies, DC has been trying to make an extended DC cinematic universe that could rival with Marvel's, falling nonstop for the past years

    • @georgeandfriendsadventures5073
      @georgeandfriendsadventures5073 4 місяці тому

      Yeah it’s not like Pharah where I’m struggling to stay in the air

  • @Rath2049
    @Rath2049 4 місяці тому +1775

    1:19 Those contracts are illegal outside of China, which is where the company is based around

    • @Zagrash
      @Zagrash 4 місяці тому +148

      NetEase doing NetEase things :)

    • @darkcat6530
      @darkcat6530 4 місяці тому +35

      i mean thats kinda like saying, "it's not possible that guy could've stollen, stealing is illegal"

    • @maximusperez5607
      @maximusperez5607 4 місяці тому +150

      @@darkcat6530 No, this means that that aspect of the contract would not hold up in court, rendering it meaningless

    • @ravinous
      @ravinous 4 місяці тому

      No they are not, what are you talking about? NDA's and requirements for those NDA's exist. Also, net ease being net ease, they can also be round about in telling youtubers to *WINK*WINK* say your not under and NDA or Contract so you seem more legitimate. And then tell them that "your under no obligation to say nice things" *Wink Wink*
      I mean really, it's fucking Net Ease. But hey, it's not like the internet hasn't become a pit of Misinformation, Trolling, and Lies, no no. Who would lie on the internet?

    • @roguerex292
      @roguerex292 4 місяці тому +18

      Has anyone anywhere actually confirmed the contracts in America or if it was intentional? I only seen second hand images or people saying it

  • @BrandonCrAzYyt
    @BrandonCrAzYyt 4 місяці тому +716

    Didn't know about the team up mechanic. it sounds pretty cool. I hope if they add Venom they give him a team up with Spiderman that he'll give him the black suit for him to crazy with.

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +164

      It would be an insanely missed opportunity if they didn't

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 4 місяці тому +15

      That would be SOOO DOPE💯

    • @oryionterrell6498
      @oryionterrell6498 4 місяці тому +54

      The future roster got leaked and venom is confirmed if everything goes to plan

    • @alexanderticonuwu7591
      @alexanderticonuwu7591 4 місяці тому +31

      ​@@oryionterrell6498 I heard his Team Up is to give the symbiote to Peni and Peter. Hope it's true. That'll be awesome

    • @CalebTheUncool
      @CalebTheUncool 4 місяці тому +4

      great pfp

  • @spicytuna78
    @spicytuna78 4 місяці тому +569

    The "no role queue" argument seems to be weird to me because that was genuine problem in overwatch; you literally have to sit in queue for like 10 minutes because you wanted to play a specific role.

    • @DBTHEPLUG
      @DBTHEPLUG 4 місяці тому +63

      Which has nothing to do with role queue, but the fact that the game's player count is low.
      Role queue is necessary. Before OW added role queue, everyone picked DPS while no one picked support.
      Play games like Valorant, and you'll see everyone picking duelists at lower ranks instead of communicating and forming an actual well-rounded team.
      Because of these NPCs, role queue is a necessity.

    • @emmanuelfuentes01
      @emmanuelfuentes01 4 місяці тому +15

      I personally think the way OW2 works now is how the game should *launch*. Obviously this is an alpha so I don't expect all those things, but as a suggestion it should absolutely be looked at. You can easily have a role queue and an open queue and be fine. Both are populated in OW for those players

    • @miguelcamacho105
      @miguelcamacho105 4 місяці тому +35

      Role queue 🤮

    • @S0UPIE
      @S0UPIE 4 місяці тому +10

      We're asking for role LOCK not role queue. In overwatch how it worked was that if 2 of any role was filled then nobody else could play that role. Role queue is where you select a role before queue and can only play that role for the match. And also there is not a low player count in overwatch, outside of comp most people 1-6 min queues

    • @orio_edible
      @orio_edible 4 місяці тому +43

      ​@@DBTHEPLUG One of the main reasons nobody played support is that there were like six support characters, and only about three were viable at any given time.

  • @Sigh-Clops
    @Sigh-Clops 4 місяці тому +446

    He did what no dad has ever achieved, he came back WITH THE MILK

  • @Vikumax
    @Vikumax 4 місяці тому +44

    Imagine coming up with one of the sickest artstyles for a marvel thing in a while and then people be like "I wanna see them less in my screen"
    Im SUPER glad this is third person

    • @moleedaboi
      @moleedaboi Місяць тому +1

      Game looks like actual doodoo imo

    • @Shutupmoth
      @Shutupmoth Місяць тому

      @@moleedaboicounter point, your opinion fucking sucks

    • @OfficialEdwardNewgate
      @OfficialEdwardNewgate Місяць тому +3

      @@moleedaboi crazy

  • @marcusgabriel8365
    @marcusgabriel8365 4 місяці тому +162

    This is by far the most unbiased review I’ve seen for this game, pretty nice. I really hope this game will give OW it’s run for its money because I crave a shooter with a similar style that can be a competitor to it, doesn’t really have to be popular but just fun for what it is

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +36

      Not enough games on the market nowadays just trying to be fun instead of esports, I love what this game is going for right now and I think it's got masssive potential

  • @Masthegreatest08
    @Masthegreatest08 4 місяці тому +283

    to the complaints about third person, they could just do the starwars battlefront thing and have both first and third person

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +63

      That might just work

    • @Bolt451
      @Bolt451 4 місяці тому +47

      yea but first person in BF2 sucks and only exists on base classes I say that as someone who religiously uses fps in BF2

    • @lawfulgoodnun1646
      @lawfulgoodnun1646 4 місяці тому +44

      They could but 1st person players would whine that 3rd person players have an advantage and remove it. (Paladins moment)

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +17

      @@lawfulgoodnun1646 if they are bringing the overwatch community over, for sure

    • @little_error295
      @little_error295 4 місяці тому +10

      @@lawfulgoodnun1646not even close to a paladins moment first person existed for years before 3rd person and not only that 3rd person mode was disabled in ranked it got removed because it was so buggy they couldn’t be asked to fix the hundreds of bugs that came with it

  • @Garagelab164
    @Garagelab164 4 місяці тому +139

    5:05 Spider-Man isn’t a nuisance, his
    A MENACE! A VIGILANTE!

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 3 місяці тому +3

      I WANT SPIDER-MAAAAN!!

  • @dislikebutton8979
    @dislikebutton8979 4 місяці тому +58

    Thumbnail had me worried. Well you successfully baited me into clicking on the video 🗿

  • @Vindictive-_-
    @Vindictive-_- 4 місяці тому +43

    The Spider-Man and Black Panther balancing is solely down to being skill diffed if you watch people like Necros play as those characters you can see that they are completely viable picks, its just that they're really hard characters to play well

    • @megamecha100
      @megamecha100 4 місяці тому +4

      Which at the end of the day I think is fine because they are incredibly mobile and fun

    • @elmaionesosexo
      @elmaionesosexo 4 місяці тому +6

      Spider-Man is also really difficult to use in the MvC games, playing Spider-Man makes you feel like Spidey since you always gotta work harder against fucking magic users

    • @sbravati.
      @sbravati. 3 місяці тому

      necros my goat🙏🙏 hes a genji otp tho of course he plays the weak but fun characters (i know genji is not that bad this season but still) and i say that because i also play genji and those two are the ones i want to play lol

  • @gnice42
    @gnice42 4 місяці тому +215

    Bro you had my "like and subscribe" at telling people to "please STFU"🙏🙊

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +38

      We like to keep it real here

    • @LCyte88
      @LCyte88 4 місяці тому +3

      Likewise lol

  • @penguin6775
    @penguin6775 4 місяці тому +85

    the only guy I can trust with reviews for games. Got both hollow knight and Cuphead and maxed them both out, looking foward to this game and yours.

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +7

      I appreciate you penguin6775 ❤️

  • @thehappyonion7044
    @thehappyonion7044 4 місяці тому +95

    5:07 i could just hear J Jonah Jameson’s voice here xd

  • @TMinuZ
    @TMinuZ 4 місяці тому +55

    This game is dope as hell, especially the team up boosts, I never even heard about it before this video

  • @eucalypti1075
    @eucalypti1075 4 місяці тому +101

    venom is 100% gonna be a beta or full launch character
    that mf is literally the most hype character

    • @hagos9939
      @hagos9939 4 місяці тому +4

      Well he and a lot of characters were leaked

    • @PinkFriess
      @PinkFriess 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@hagos9939did venom leak? Must've missed it i hope we see rogue, jubilee and some more x-men on my side psylocke and wolverine are cool but i want more

    • @totomen666
      @totomen666 4 місяці тому +2

      Wolverine/Deadpool/Captain Falcon?

    • @marcosrangel2988
      @marcosrangel2988 4 місяці тому +1

      @@totomen666Captain flacon?? I’m pretty sure that’s only for the MCU, however I hope they do add Captain America,

    • @HeliosSol183
      @HeliosSol183 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@marcosrangel2988 sam as cap is a big part of the comics, not just the mcu

  • @lucasbaptista6696
    @lucasbaptista6696 Місяць тому +3

    I love how the devs really tried hard to make the character don't fell like a character from overwatch, the skill set from each character are either a mix from abilities that are similar to abilities from different characters from overwatch or are totally original

  • @panshakes
    @panshakes 4 місяці тому +6

    When you said “reminded me of garden-warfare” that got me SOLD

  • @Superspooks.
    @Superspooks. 4 місяці тому +53

    I feel like some people don’t compare it to overwatch because they think it’s a clone, they do it because it’s just easier to compare things that already exist, just a Humanity Thing

  • @kierraellis6570
    @kierraellis6570 4 місяці тому +95

    The people who complain about role que literally were not there for the first couple of years Overwatch was out. That's what Overwatch's foundation was literally built on was being able to change to whatever you or your team needed to counter and win.

    • @InsomniacUN
      @InsomniacUN 4 місяці тому +29

      OW2 players trying to ruin a good game before it becomes its primary competitor lol.

    • @shroomer3867
      @shroomer3867 4 місяці тому +13

      Yeah, like, you weren't even there for Overwatch and now you want to bring the worst thing about it here? Nah, get out of here.

    • @DBTHEPLUG
      @DBTHEPLUG 4 місяці тому

      I was there since May 2016 and role queue definitely was a great change, as was 5v5. Besides that, they f'ed the game up, so I don't even play that crap anymore.

    • @Tatercon
      @Tatercon 4 місяці тому +2

      Untill people find the goats equivalent and people beg for role que

    • @InsomniacUN
      @InsomniacUN 4 місяці тому +8

      @@Tatercon Believe it or not, GOATS was balanceable before taking the nuclear option of forcing role queue.
      But as demonstrated with the format change to 5v5, the OW balance team has a knack for taking the nuclear option over just nerfing the characters that enable the problematic comps in the first place.

  • @Monio.
    @Monio. 4 місяці тому +11

    It's all the games I loved:
    -PvZ garden warfare 2 I loved playing
    -Overwatch I wanted
    I just hope they do it right.

  • @faniskouklas
    @faniskouklas 4 місяці тому +139

    Clickbaiting with that thumbnail is really annoying lol, next time don't mislead people like that, you're driving engagement for this game down
    Edit: Seems like the Creator changed the thumbnail to 5 stars instead of 1, based move since it's now accurate on their beliefs! Got a new subscriber now

    • @moronicamon
      @moronicamon 4 місяці тому +16

      So fucking true

    • @Swuh
      @Swuh 4 місяці тому +11

      omega clickbait though it was a good review

    • @faniskouklas
      @faniskouklas 4 місяці тому +16

      @@Swuh Yeah, I loved the video! It's just that the clickbait is leaving a wrong impression on people's mouths. It's very bad for the game and it can legitimately impact the people's view before it comes out.

    • @wackyvtubermoments
      @wackyvtubermoments 4 місяці тому +2

      Lol cope, you just want the game to be bad

    • @SunDry_Marchy
      @SunDry_Marchy 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@wackyvtubermoment you might have to give learning English another go
      Unless it's your second language, don't bother in such a case

  • @3tap
    @3tap 4 місяці тому +6

    i love how you said a character isn't like pharah, so you just described echo instead lmao

  • @muriloalves8703
    @muriloalves8703 4 місяці тому +17

    Third person is good for melee combat, i like it.

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +5

      Definitely, just wish some of the melee guys were a bit better

  • @sunken3840
    @sunken3840 3 місяці тому +4

    not surprised at all at the weakness of melee character. The voerwatch devs wanted genji to be primarily melee but it was too hard to balance, so they gave him his ult and shurikens

  • @FatelAgony
    @FatelAgony 3 місяці тому +7

    **Add Venom to the game** that aged well.

  • @imranicanovic1154
    @imranicanovic1154 4 місяці тому +5

    I remembwr when hero/class shooters were called Tema Fortress 2 killers. Surprising that theyre now Overwatch killers, when Overwatch kept doing everything in its power to kill itself since game 1.

  • @kronos200
    @kronos200 4 місяці тому +5

    1:40 I for one, like the ability to see the whole skin that I got for a character, instead of just the gun part of the skin.

  • @sixsam154
    @sixsam154 4 місяці тому +47

    He needs to watch Necro( aka the genji main) playes spider man. He found how to do like a near oneshot combo with spider without the ult

    • @Grizzy6122
      @Grizzy6122 4 місяці тому

      knowing Necros you probably need ridiculous mechanics to even make it viable though

    • @hee_hee9964
      @hee_hee9964 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Grizzy6122 he basically shoots them with a web, string them closer, uppercut and melee one or two times for lower health characters and get out with the web swing, wait for cooldowns to disapear and do it again

    • @sbravati.
      @sbravati. 3 місяці тому

      i mean necros is a genji otp, hes used to play characters like that lol

    • @sbravati.
      @sbravati. 3 місяці тому

      @@Grizzy6122he plays spider man pretty similar to genji ngl, you hit the webs, “dash” to them, upercut melee and they die, which is basically the genji combo

  • @JumpsOw
    @JumpsOw 3 місяці тому +5

    I think a good way to buff all the melee heroes is increasing the base movement by 20% .

  • @nyeonii
    @nyeonii 4 місяці тому +4

    As a veteran Overwatch player, I’m looking forward to trying this game and I welcome more competition in the industry. Both of the dev teams can learn things from each others’ mistakes and will try to outdo each other to get more players. Kinda like how Apex’s pinging system was adopted by every other shooting game afterward. More competition in the industry will always benefit the consumers

  • @Camaro-dy4tj
    @Camaro-dy4tj 4 місяці тому +15

    4:35 I will say I’ve seen some pro genji’s getting the hang of spiderman and absolutely deleting people, and some hulks learning how to dive effectively and really pressure people. But bp seems a little weak for sure. And the melee’s have a surprisingly high skill floor

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 3 місяці тому +1

      It's the usual Doomfist, Genji, Hammond, etc.. these kind of dynamics, characters who are super demanding, but they can delete people. However, as a Doomfist masochist, it's frustrating how you have to work twice as hard to generate the same numbers of a Orisa. Same goes for this game it seems, you have Spiderman moving around like a thunderbolt and maybe killing one or two opponents, at the same time you have the Punisher just firing a machine gun and killing the same two opponents, lol it's a messed up concept, it will never be truly balanced, people only keep playing with super demanding characters like these because they enjoy the unusual gameplay, but the game itself does not reward their efforts, Overwatch "2" is all about rewarding low skill, most likely this Marvel Rivals will be the same thing... I think this is a defective design, but they have to attract new players somehow, so we will have plenty of people struggling with Spiderman, while Scarlet Witch just kills everyone with auto-aim like Moira, same bullshit, different game

    • @sbravati.
      @sbravati. 3 місяці тому

      its necros, he found a one shot combo on spider man which is pretty similar to genjis one shot
      and ngl as an genji player he’s pretty similar to black panther and spider man or at least you can play them like you would play genji
      and at the end of the day genji players are already used to playing characters like that, high mobility, fun, but weak characters, that’s also why doom players would probably also find a way to make them work

  • @josesosa3337
    @josesosa3337 4 місяці тому +12

    I would like for there to be a random heroes mode like in overwatch.

  • @Steveo_j8
    @Steveo_j8 Місяць тому +1

    "Adding role queue would take away the creative freedom-"
    *The same 5 Brawlers on my team EVERY damn game with like a singular teamup.*

  • @raymalik5171
    @raymalik5171 3 місяці тому +4

    9:54 your wish was granted

  • @sabe97
    @sabe97 4 місяці тому +2

    I felt like this one of the first review were I felt no inherent bias one way or another. You spoke about how you felt but acknowledged that it has room for improvement like an alpha should. I'll be back to watch the beta review if you drop one.

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +1

      If i get a code and they change enough will be sure to review it

  • @jettdominick3878
    @jettdominick3878 4 місяці тому +17

    I got clickbaited

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +8

      We like to do a little trickery around here

  • @JustusScheetz
    @JustusScheetz 2 місяці тому +1

    "add venom to the game" you'll never guess what happened today...

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 4 місяці тому +8

    Galacta showing up in a relatively large role in a game after 14 years was NOT something I expected.

    • @kaankarcan558
      @kaankarcan558 4 місяці тому

      Was she in other games as well? Or was she created 14 years ago?

    • @shroomer3867
      @shroomer3867 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@kaankarcan558 She is, as far as I know, Galactus' daughter and according to Fandom:
      "Galacta first appeared in Marvel Assistant-Sized Spectacular #2 in June 2009, in a story written by Adam Warren."
      Also there are a lot of people who never knew about her and think it's some sjw genderbent shenanigans when in fact it's just ignorance on their part (Asmongold)

    • @kaankarcan558
      @kaankarcan558 4 місяці тому +1

      @@shroomer3867 I mean I cant blame them, she literally looks like popular art where people made anything into cute anime girls.

  • @imortalized3d
    @imortalized3d 3 місяці тому +1

    I love that you changed the thumbnail from 1 star to 5 star didn't see it till now

  • @Kh088
    @Kh088 4 місяці тому +6

    That first person vs 3rd person rant just got a sub out of me lol
    I told so many moba people stfu with the same reasoning back when smite was first announced and they lost their shit over it not being birds eye view

  • @chazzerine7650
    @chazzerine7650 2 місяці тому +2

    "Add Venom to the game" aged like wine

  • @applelover2294
    @applelover2294 4 місяці тому +8

    The team up mechanic reminds me of marvel contest of champions synergy and that made the game much more complex so I’m excited to see how it goes

    • @profxssnappedneck2822
      @profxssnappedneck2822 4 місяці тому

      Team-Ups go all the way back to Ultimate Alliance, interesting that it keeps popping in other Marvel games tho

  • @RRRRRRRRR33
    @RRRRRRRRR33 3 місяці тому +1

    Your take about role queue is fair enough, I give you that. The initial footage looked so chaotic, as a traumatized Overwatch player, I immediately reached the conclusion that lack of role queue is the reason why the game is so unbalanced and crazy looking. And hell, even with role queue Overwatch "2" is a goddamn abomination anyway... but yes, it's a fair point, the game is on alpha, people are going to test stuff, play all the characters they want, etc.. but I hope when the game is close to release (a shame it will take at least 6 months or so), the devs apply role queue and balance the game accordingly. There's many reasons why Overwatch died and the lack of balance and horrendous matchmaking were at the top the list, if this Marvel game somehow mitigates those issues at release, offering a enjoyable 6v6 experience for all kinds of audiences, this game is going to become a popular phenom

  • @Deathy75
    @Deathy75 4 місяці тому +7

    0:34 that's all I had to hear, wrap it up boys

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +1

      Listen, dbd mobile got better features than the main game, all I'm sayin

    • @Deathy75
      @Deathy75 4 місяці тому +2

      @@MilkManSteve what worries me is the fact that netease is working on this
      And we all know their reputation at making mobile games 💀

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +2

      @@Deathy75 fair enough

  • @jadencrawford2772
    @jadencrawford2772 4 місяці тому +2

    The art style is super cool and eye catching with the colors and distinct designs of the outfits

  • @pinuninu
    @pinuninu 4 місяці тому +11

    MILKMAN YOU ARE BACK!!!

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому

      I was working on a long ass video but figured I'd upload this real quick in the meantime

  • @AnotherPhred
    @AnotherPhred 2 місяці тому +1

    Day 1 of waiting for marvel rivals GOATS comp

  • @KindofBradAtThis
    @KindofBradAtThis 4 місяці тому +22

    Role queue should only be ranked for these type of game, if at all TBH

    • @DBTHEPLUG
      @DBTHEPLUG 4 місяці тому +3

      It should be the entire game. They could add in an arcade mode for the worthless casuals that want to play without building an actual well-rounded team.

    • @manicbeyond
      @manicbeyond 4 місяці тому +11

      ​@@DBTHEPLUG The way I see it, the normal mode of a game is for the casual players, so they can just have fun with the game they want to play. Ranked, literally the mode for people who give a shit about their k/d ratio and dumb shit like that, is where the role queue should reside, because that's where a balanced team matters. The normal mode, nobody should be giving a shit, most people just wanna have fun in the game. Are stupid team decisions gonna get made, probably. That's why it'd not be in ranked. Doing it for the entire game is stupid though, a lot of characters that people like are gonna be put in the same class, a lot of people are gonna want to be strikers and defenders. Probably not supports nearly as much. There's a reason both usually exist, one is for the people who want to fuck around, the other is for people who just want to win and that's it.

    • @KindofBradAtThis
      @KindofBradAtThis 4 місяці тому +10

      @@DBTHEPLUG yea see this attitude is why competitive games die

    • @DBTHEPLUG
      @DBTHEPLUG 4 місяці тому +1

      @manicbeyond Nope. Casual game mode is for people who want the ranked experience without them having to worry about losing their ranks. Imagine not wanting to play ranked, but the casual game mode isn't the same as ranked and is more like a party mode...

    • @KindofBradAtThis
      @KindofBradAtThis 4 місяці тому +6

      @@DBTHEPLUG nope that’s what ranked is for, if you want to practice scrims, there’s custom games for that

  • @weebthatlifts5750
    @weebthatlifts5750 4 місяці тому +1

    I love the thumbnail switch from 1 to 5 stars

  • @grangerdanger9089
    @grangerdanger9089 4 місяці тому +4

    THE THUMBNAIL CHANGED LMAOOO

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +2

      The original idea was to swap between the two thumbnails intermitently as a funny bit, turns out people do not like funny bits and wanted my blood, so it will remain for the forseeable future

    • @utkarshmenonkoottunkal8566
      @utkarshmenonkoottunkal8566 3 місяці тому

      wait what was the thumbnail before galactica?

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  3 місяці тому

      @@utkarshmenonkoottunkal8566 same thumbnail, different star count

    • @grangerdanger9089
      @grangerdanger9089 Місяць тому

      @@MilkManSteve I actually thought it was goddamn hilarious😭😭 (i just noticed this btw, and great vid!)

  • @yarogblack1909
    @yarogblack1909 4 місяці тому +1

    Lmao the thumbnail change, yeah idk what you expected the reaction would be from the original one

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому

      I always had the two thumbnails and thought it would be a funny bit to change between them, turns out people found one of them much less funny than I did

  • @fatpony5029
    @fatpony5029 4 місяці тому +3

    Iron man is echo not phara, people are comparing to the wrong characters

  • @kaankarcan558
    @kaankarcan558 4 місяці тому +1

    You love it when you discover a new channel that you share your opinions with and not out to get disappointed with a new game right after it is announced

  • @littlequaintfellow
    @littlequaintfellow 4 місяці тому +3

    Idk if this is just me but I feel like people are automatically hating on this game cause of how bad marvels record has been recently.

  • @MuuToo
    @MuuToo 4 місяці тому +1

    I find it so nuts that way back any team based hero shooter would have been a Team Fortress 2 killer. Heck, even Overwatch was labeled that at one point. And now, with so much time having passed (and TF2 being in a state of neglect), now they're called Overwatch killers.

  • @pablo.gonzales945
    @pablo.gonzales945 4 місяці тому +3

    Who is complaining about no role queue?? Role queue sucks

    • @sbravati.
      @sbravati. 3 місяці тому

      we have ptsd because of goats, and trust me, especially if marvel rivals devs are anywhere close to blizzard people will start begging for role queue as soon as they find an equivalent to goats

  • @aquila1154
    @aquila1154 3 місяці тому +1

    to the comment about role queue, that was literally invented to prevent overwatch from killing itself.
    if the game can actually function without forcing players into a set of roles, I’d call that an upgrade

  • @Morbius-Tension
    @Morbius-Tension 4 місяці тому +3

    5:05 never heard a more accurate description of spider-man 💀

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 3 місяці тому

      Which is awesome, lol Dr. Octopus mechanical arms are way stronger than Spiderman, but he moves around like a pest, so it doesn't matter. I am super curious to see how they are going to design Wolverine, translating his ferocity to a game like this. Overwatch was able to do something similar with Doomfist, this character can hit you really damn hard, maybe Wolverine will be like that, maybe Colossus, etc.. lot of potential for cool stuff

  • @brendolbreadwar2671
    @brendolbreadwar2671 4 місяці тому +2

    This game cherry-picked the best aspect from the best shooters/melee games to create the best possible version of the genre. You can see influence from Overwatch, Paladins, Borderlands 3, PVZ Warefare, etc. They did NOT hold back. Every single character feels as if they could be staring in their own campaign game and i really really like that.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 3 місяці тому

      It's awesome, the fact you can swing around with Spiderman, the animations looks similar to the PS4 game in a hero shooter, lol that's crazy, hope the engine is robust enough to allow Spiderman to wall ride sideways (he can already run in straight lines), you can literally reenact the PS4 game, swinging, wall riding, but instead of punching random thugs, you will punch goddamn Magneto

  • @Nopal_ku
    @Nopal_ku 4 місяці тому +4

    I hate role queue removes player expression just for dumb eSports balance

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 3 місяці тому

      People don't play games like these in a "free flowing" way (that would be great, but sadly it's not the reality), they are going to find loopholes and abuse the system. It's not fun when you face the same exact teams over and over again, no role queue actually incentivizes stagnancy. Most likely this game will have a "free for all" mode, but the main "competitive" modes will feature role queue

  • @tyrantking2322
    @tyrantking2322 4 місяці тому +2

    They gave up calling it a TF2 killer for two reasons: 1. The game is still more fun than what this is gonna bring. 2. Its already a corpse of a game since it has no official updates like at all

    • @xman9354
      @xman9354 4 місяці тому

      I think its because its literally too far of a stretch to compare the two. Like minecraft to tetris

    • @tyrantking2322
      @tyrantking2322 4 місяці тому

      @xman9354 I'd digress since back in 2016, OW was constantly being called the tf2 killer since its was more so called a class based shooter than hero shooter

    • @xman9354
      @xman9354 4 місяці тому

      @@tyrantking2322 I can see the comparison between overwatch and tf2 but the jump from tf2 to marvel rivals is literally to big of a bridge to gap

  • @RocketShark
    @RocketShark 4 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for making a proper review. This is fantastic.

  • @coreyspeers1651
    @coreyspeers1651 4 місяці тому +1

    Man love how honest you are. You've put my fears for the game to rest, liked and subscribed🎉

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому

      I've got high hopes, heres hoping they deliver

  • @kirrb-dot-exe
    @kirrb-dot-exe 4 місяці тому +3

    0:38 omg i used to be obsessed with that yokai game from netease on the bottom right there

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah I did that one for a while too.

  • @frogwithaflaregun4792
    @frogwithaflaregun4792 3 місяці тому +2

    I hate that no one is talking about the thumbnail

  • @dehydratedwater0000
    @dehydratedwater0000 4 місяці тому +39

    So Iron Man is basically Echo?

    • @penguin6775
      @penguin6775 4 місяці тому +1

      yes

    • @Toon_Lucario
      @Toon_Lucario 4 місяці тому +3

      Yes but better

    • @tamas8950
      @tamas8950 4 місяці тому +7

      It makes the whole point about not being a phara ripoff kinda stupid ngl

    • @peregrine3400
      @peregrine3400 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@tamas8950I think it's meant to highlight that the devs are very willing to explore the fun mechanics that every character can bring to the game as opposed to making one dimensional and easy to balance kits.

    • @jj4cx423
      @jj4cx423 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@tamas8950do OW players just not realize that most of their heroes straight up came from these heroes themselves that have existed for decades

  • @isaac.h6918
    @isaac.h6918 Місяць тому

    One good way to buff All of the melee brawlers, is giving melee’s a kind of Cc, or minor stun (for spider-man) when they damage on their main attack. This should help the non tanks dodge easier, and hopefully be much more viable, especially team wise as any kind of stun is MASSIVE

  • @TCGproductions1
    @TCGproductions1 4 місяці тому +7

    he’s back :)

  • @LibertyBridgeProductions
    @LibertyBridgeProductions 3 місяці тому +1

    If they add a fantastic four character, Daredevil and silver surfer we got all the big marvel characters

  • @goofygoober4205
    @goofygoober4205 4 місяці тому +3

    WAIT THEY GOT THE MOTHERFUCKING PUNISHER IN THIS GAME??? I GOTTA GET IT

    • @jahrusalem3658
      @jahrusalem3658 4 місяці тому

      Punisher looks like Marcus Fenix and I can't unsee it.

  • @atagor6812
    @atagor6812 2 місяці тому +2

    7:18 Role que is what killed Overwatch

  • @themushroom2652
    @themushroom2652 4 місяці тому +21

    Ah finally, the real overwatch 2😌

  • @ImpishFemboy
    @ImpishFemboy Місяць тому +1

    I'll take every PvZ Garden Warfare reference that I can. Those games is too underrated on the internet.

  • @DragonShinobi
    @DragonShinobi 3 місяці тому +4

    I don't care if this wins, I just need overwatch to lose.

  • @sultanrowa1567
    @sultanrowa1567 4 місяці тому

    Spider man fr became that assassin that CAN'T DO ANYTHING without his ult

  • @jaysick3868
    @jaysick3868 4 місяці тому +1

    The game isn’t even close to coming out yet… to be honest I wouldn’t want people trashing my game before it’s out too

  • @JoaoVitor-ge4le
    @JoaoVitor-ge4le 3 місяці тому

    Asking for role queue on a game that's in alpha is crazy, the thing didn't even come out yet and some people are already asking for the game to put the players on boxes

  • @sirrobin7078
    @sirrobin7078 3 місяці тому +1

    unlimited flying is going to be so fun to play but beyond toxic and annoying to play against.

  • @leviathan8282
    @leviathan8282 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm always happy to see people make videos about this game just because it gives it exposure no matter in what way

  • @thekingofcookies4877
    @thekingofcookies4877 4 місяці тому

    Love that you point out the issues and say "it's an alpha"
    because for some reason people aren't treating this game like it's in alpha...

  • @JaqlynDandy
    @JaqlynDandy 4 місяці тому +1

    The Team Up mechanic seems like it will likely cause problems in the future. It significantly limits design space in what they can put into it, and it heavily restricts team comps by forcing certain pairs. Team sizes being 6 does mean you have 5 chances to get your other half, but as the roster expands this will likely get harder and harder to manage. Then there becomes the problem of team up abilities make or breaking characters, if a character is unplayable without it then its completely reliant on someone else picking the other half to even have a chance of seeing play, essentially making character decency dependent on another.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 3 місяці тому +1

      It's tricky, but I think this feature will remain a thing because team ups is one of the most popular comic book gimmicks. Buffs and nerfs all the way, until the character feels fun to play regardless. I think Spiderman is already a positive example, because he functions well by himself (if you are a masochist, in other words, Doomfist players, Genji, Hammond, etc), but he will have team up abilities with Venom, Peni Parker, most likely Spider-Gwen will show up, etc that spices up his "kit" a little bit more, but the character remains a valid pick if there's no other Spider people around (there's also some surprising dynamics, Mantis of all characters, she has good synergy with Spiderman)

  • @zechariahcaraballo8765
    @zechariahcaraballo8765 4 місяці тому +1

    I dont think the amount of hero shooters out rn is a problem and the games genre should not be a point against it, but other than that I agree with the rest of the review it talks about everything really accurately and is well made

  • @medicgaming5204
    @medicgaming5204 4 місяці тому +1

    The good thing about third person is that you can see the skin you bought

  • @MystiNebula
    @MystiNebula 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey now hold on a second, I could've sworn this video had a slightly/VERY different thumbnail. Either you changed it, or I need to get better medication, and the voices seem to incline towards the former.

    • @MilkManSteve
      @MilkManSteve  4 місяці тому +3

      I have no idea what youre talking about

    • @SquidJustice
      @SquidJustice 4 місяці тому

      ​@@MilkManStevethe cap of the century, we remember...

  • @RandomDumGuy
    @RandomDumGuy 4 місяці тому

    I like how when describing how groot is nearly impossible to kill you described the oak from pvz battle for neighborville, except that one usually has 3 healers strapped to it

  • @whitefangs69
    @whitefangs69 4 місяці тому

    Im sorry the starlord's reload animation just triggers tracers voicelines for me. "Your to slow" "ive got something for yaa"

  • @Ganvy
    @Ganvy 4 місяці тому

    Saying a game is an overwatch killer is like saying this cup of water has water in it, when talking about a cup with water

  •  4 місяці тому +1

    The team up mechanic sounds fun, but will for sure end up in more toxic people. Now they will complain if you don't pick the team up of their main

  • @Axion97Player
    @Axion97Player 4 місяці тому

    It would make perfect sense for them to sell a game in which you control incredible Marvel heroes and play in first person, not seeing the hero you are.

  • @sarastagnitto3159
    @sarastagnitto3159 4 місяці тому +1

    You know at first I was interested but after seeing this video I might check on it every now and again

  • @martinduebner
    @martinduebner 3 місяці тому +1

    There was no Overwatch killer. It was suicide xD

  • @therevman5940
    @therevman5940 4 місяці тому +1

    bro-the-programming-behind-the-dr-strange-portal-is-literally-alien-technology

  • @TheNathon11
    @TheNathon11 4 місяці тому

    The third person aspect is the best part I think of Marvel Rivals, imagine playing Hulk in first person it just wouldn't feel right, there are other characters as well but my main point is I want to see these heroes/villains in third person it just makes sense.