In our local Junior Fire Brigade there was a boy who was just like this. Setting fire to something and then acting like he's first on the scene to put it out. When his supervisor found out he locked him into the ice cold firewater tank for several minutes before sending him home to his parents, banned from the fire department forever.
It's noteworthy that walking into a burning building is easier (and perhaps also more glamorous) than helping a homeless person or a struggling family.
Psychological disorder where someone is holding you at gunpoint and then you get rescued because the man holding you at gunpoint is delivering an exceedingly long monologue
There was a cadaver dog trainer in the states who did something similar. She planted human bone fragments for her animal to "find". Law enforcement and dog training circles were fooled...for a long while.
Problem..... Reaction.... Solution is the way Nazti Globalist types rule the world... All major governments suffer from Hero Syndrome - or rather, they rule and we suffer.
True story. At Norfolk international airport in Norfolk Virginia (USA) the police put training explosives under a car. The owner drove off before the dogs found it and the local 6:30 p.m. news had to alert the public hoping the car was still in the area. America is a great place. The best stories come from Florida.
In Australia, in the 90's, a new recruit to the rural volunteer fire-fighters was killed by the fire he set. It surrounded him and closed in on him. First there was public mourning for him and then the truth came out.
I'm surprised that Jo Brand didn't know the syndrome in question, she was still a practising mental health nurse in 1993 when Beverley Allit was found to have caused cardiac arrests in babies on he neonatal unit where she worked so that she could be the hero doing the cardiac arrest procedure (US version 'Code Blue').
Backdraft was about a fireman killing politicians and executives who were manipulating data so that they could close fire stations and buy the land the fire stations were on and subsequently develop the land for huge profits.
@@nocalsteve is that supposed to be an argument against the comment you replied to? You literally just said that the film in question is about a fireman committing arson to propagate himself as a hero
@@nintendopet114 He wasn’t trying to be a hero, he was a murderer who was trying not to get caught though he thought his vindictiveness and vengeance was justified.
Hero syndrome is really common in my area in northern Germany. There are a bunch of houses with thatched roofs here which catch on fire really easily and in many of the smaller villages, more than half of the people living there are members of the voluntary fire brigade.
Do you have any idea how many men see themselves ''saving the day?" What almost all men think about is that heroic moment of quick action. What is truly liberating is putting that aside, and getting on with life.
Our original building superintendent was a small step away from having this personality issue. He was such an admirer of Firemen and Policemen that he construed every possible excuse short of starting a fire to have them attend our condo tower. In fact, we were very close to being surcharged by the Fire Service for exceeding the tolerable number of false alarm call-outs per year and they notified the property management company to that effect. There was/is a YT channel guy whose video footage of firefighting scenes has a firefighter referring to him on camera to a colleague as just a "Cindy" which several of the commenters deciphered (burning cinders > Cindy) to mean he was the Fireman equivalent of a rodeo cowboys' Buckle Bunny or a hockey players' Puck Bunny. They knew and recognized him from stalking them at work for a prolonged time with his video camera.
Munchausen by proxy is even sadder, because it does not bestow glory on the initiator; he or she simply revels in the misery of the one that is harmed, and their association with that one.
@@Protector0ne Not the way it was explained to me. The mother gains praise for being such a good mother caring for such a sick child, people simply are unaware that she is the one making them sick. It is very much about that praise, according to every article and paper on it I have read.
@@PtolemyJones Not necessarily as much about praise and glory as the feeling of being needed, but that could also apply to firefighters planting fires.
Yes, and I was sure Stephen explained it after telling the fact, but either it was cut from this clip or they had the topic again in a later episode. This clip had me very confused waiting for the line about how they get paid for actually putting out fires. I think we can hear him attempting to elaborate on this right after giving the answer (starting something like „that is because“), but getting cut off.
But then there's still an error, since the description also lists Alan Davies, Jo Brand, Jimmy Carr and Jack Dee, which only appeared in the so called intro.
Case in point see "John Leonard Orr" - a fire fighter and arson investigator in California that was convicted of 20-some counts of arson and a couple of related murder charges. The FBI thought that he was really responsible for 2,000 fires of various sizes throughout his life though.
I'm under the impression that many of these incidents are done by VOLUNTEER firefighters. When I started this reply I couldn't think whether or not The U.K. had V.F.D.s. As I was typing, I remembered James Acaster on Would I Lie to You, a couple of years ago. The "This is my..." person turned out to be from his local V.F.D.
'Munchhausen's Syndrome' and 'Munchhausen's Syndrome by Proxy' are rare but real psychological disorders. My ex-wife was paid as an expert witness in Court Cases where Guardians purposely injured children with poisons and devices to make them ill. Unfortunately she also had my two perfectly healthy children diagnosed with multiple disabilities but I could not prove that it was due to any intervention by her.
These kind of heroes yes, also the onces that think their doing good deeds, but they're actually doing tge opposite! The road to hell is paved with good intentions!
It's American foreign policy. They sanction a country to make the local population suffer so they blame their own Government, bomb and invade the shit out of it, then they come in as heroes to "liberate" the people.
Bear in mind just how well paid the job of Fireman is in the USA ........... Terrific closed shop, you don't have family members or best buds in the trade you *don't* get in apparently.
Bullshit. My Canadian ex-pat neighbor settled here after college and he got a job as a firefighter and EMT with the city fire department. He didn't know anyone and had no family connections. It may well be possible that in some cities it's difficult to get in the door, but it's by no means universally so. Being a firefighter is like every other job in the sense that there are only so many positions, and if there's more interest than positions then there's competition for those jobs. If instead the interest roughly matches the qualified candidate pool then jobs would be relatively easy to come by.
@@TWX1138 I genuinely don't doubt what you say based on your experience. BUT My comment was based on what I've heard US Firefighters stating very much as a 'matter of fact / its obvious' sort of thing. By way of contrast, in Germany many FireFighters are volunteers (not sure whether paid a small amount or not at all). It regarded as a very positive community spirited sort of thing.
@@TaxingIsThieving Well let's see: Because they: > Enjoy the challenge of putting fires out. > Get paid (most places) & esteem in others. > Want to get trained to Paramedic standards (some places) And for folk like yourself, so they can slide down poles to get into big shiny fire appliances.
Hero...Syndrome... Pixar, you GENIUS!
Oh my god amazing 🙌
Wow... wish I could upvote again.
Makes me love them even more (if possible)!!
Yeah that’s how I about it in the first place. Very on-the-nose there Pixar.
was going to comment this myself! Very clever
In our local Junior Fire Brigade there was a boy who was just like this. Setting fire to something and then acting like he's first on the scene to put it out.
When his supervisor found out he locked him into the ice cold firewater tank for several minutes before sending him home to his parents, banned from the fire department forever.
"Hero" is the name of a sandwich where I'm from. So my waistline has been suffering from "Hero Syndrome" for about 20 years now.
You get 5 points
Been watching Gordon Ramsay with the Hero burger?
Damn, I thought they were a chocolate selection.
MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm cholcolates.
@@PianoKwanMan “It’s not a hero, it’s a zero”
What a waist of 20 years.
It's noteworthy that walking into a burning building is easier (and perhaps also more glamorous) than helping a homeless person or a struggling family.
And more risky...
Psychological disorder where someone is holding you at gunpoint and then you get rescued because the man holding you at gunpoint is delivering an exceedingly long monologue
Aka soap opera syndrome
You caught me monologuing!!
Surely that's villain syndrome
PSWS. Poor Script Writers Syndrome.
There was a cadaver dog trainer in the states who did something similar. She planted human bone fragments for her animal to "find". Law enforcement and dog training circles were fooled...for a long while.
'I'd fly with them again' 😂
Fly High
Hmm, I've watched this complete video and haven't yet received notification that QI have uploaded it. Is the YT algorithm self-isolating?
I knew someone that started a house fire and played the hero by going in. He was highly praised until he got found out by fire investigators.
Problem..... Reaction.... Solution is the way Nazti Globalist types rule the world... All major governments suffer from Hero Syndrome - or rather, they rule and we suffer.
Was he also the fire investigator?
@@muesli_snipes No
True story. At Norfolk international airport in Norfolk Virginia (USA) the police put training explosives under a car. The owner drove off before the dogs found it and the local 6:30 p.m. news had to alert the public hoping the car was still in the area.
America is a great place. The best stories come from Florida.
By "training explosive" do you mean a blank/dud? That's not nearly as bad...
@@leexabyz From the report it was a small real explosive used for training.
Might not take out a car, but very embarrassing.
Jimmys pants joke deserved more
I didn't understand it -- putting on your pants before putting on your trousers?
Wallace Souza
was the name of the Brazilian presenter for those interested.
Thank you!
I'm expecting Netflix to do a true crime documentary any minute now.
@@jmalmsten They already have, it is called Killer Ratings.
@@Gaporigo
They're so quick they break time and space to releaae it before we hear of it.
I'm always amazed how Jimmy Car is not only a brilliant comedian with perfect timing, but also quite an intelligent person.
Two traits are linked so it isn't really that surprising
In Australia, in the 90's, a new recruit to the rural volunteer fire-fighters was killed by the fire he set. It surrounded him and closed in on him. First there was public mourning for him and then the truth came out.
This was the plot of a father brown episode, with fire as well
Same with New Tricks I believe
I'm surprised that Jo Brand didn't know the syndrome in question, she was still a practising mental health nurse in 1993 when Beverley Allit was found to have caused cardiac arrests in babies on he neonatal unit where she worked so that she could be the hero doing the cardiac arrest procedure (US version 'Code Blue').
So basically the whole plot of Ratchet & Clank 2 is extreme side effects of hero syndrome.
There's that person in Shropshire that killed anyone that appeared smarter than he was. He planned to take over QI and called himself Staphean Frie.
This is literally what the movie "Backdraft" is about
Did not know that, wow.
And the incredibles
Backdraft was about a fireman killing politicians and executives who were manipulating data so that they could close fire stations and buy the land the fire stations were on and subsequently develop the land for huge profits.
@@nocalsteve is that supposed to be an argument against the comment you replied to? You literally just said that the film in question is about a fireman committing arson to propagate himself as a hero
@@nintendopet114 He wasn’t trying to be a hero, he was a murderer who was trying not to get caught though he thought his vindictiveness and vengeance was justified.
About that sniffer dog story, I was worried for a sec that the passenger then hopped on a flight to a country like Singapore.
Hero syndrome is really common in my area in northern Germany. There are a bunch of houses with thatched roofs here which catch on fire really easily and in many of the smaller villages, more than half of the people living there are members of the voluntary fire brigade.
Do they play squirt on boxing day?
Do you have any idea how many men see themselves ''saving the day?" What almost all men think about is that heroic moment of quick action.
What is truly liberating is putting that aside, and getting on with life.
I think this is usually volunteer firemen in the US.
Our original building superintendent was a small step away from having this personality issue. He was such an admirer of Firemen and Policemen that he construed every possible excuse short of starting a fire to have them attend our condo tower. In fact, we were very close to being surcharged by the Fire Service for exceeding the tolerable number of false alarm call-outs per year and they notified the property management company to that effect.
There was/is a YT channel guy whose video footage of firefighting scenes has a firefighter referring to him on camera to a colleague as just a "Cindy" which several of the commenters deciphered (burning cinders > Cindy) to mean he was the Fireman equivalent of a rodeo cowboys' Buckle Bunny or a hockey players' Puck Bunny. They knew and recognized him from stalking them at work for a prolonged time with his video camera.
I find the mention of Muchausen By Proxy to be apt, gaining personal glory thru hurting others. Such a tragedy.
Munchausen by proxy is even sadder, because it does not bestow glory on the initiator; he or she simply revels in the misery of the one that is harmed, and their association with that one.
@@Protector0ne Not the way it was explained to me. The mother gains praise for being such a good mother caring for such a sick child, people simply are unaware that she is the one making them sick. It is very much about that praise, according to every article and paper on it I have read.
@@PtolemyJones Not necessarily as much about praise and glory as the feeling of being needed, but that could also apply to firefighters planting fires.
You can add Gaslighting to that list. Where the abusor tries and often succeeds in convincing both friends and victim that the victim is going crazy.
Jack Dee the king of deadpan
At 1:20 Jack Dee's scowl is copy-pasted in a second time
I immediately thought of Hermione saying Harry has a "saving people thing."
SAME, here I was thinking 'wow I have read the series too many times!'
But why? What does it mean?
Some fire departments are volunteer and only get compensation if there is a fire to put out.
Yes, and I was sure Stephen explained it after telling the fact, but either it was cut from this clip or they had the topic again in a later episode. This clip had me very confused waiting for the line about how they get paid for actually putting out fires. I think we can hear him attempting to elaborate on this right after giving the answer (starting something like „that is because“), but getting cut off.
Hmm, the description says that Sandi Toksvig is featured in this clip, but it's actually Stephen Fry. A small error, I presume?
I think you’ll find the bit with Fry is just the intro, and the bit with Toksvig near the end is the feature film.
But then there's still an error, since the description also lists Alan Davies, Jo Brand, Jimmy Carr and Jack Dee, which only appeared in the so called intro.
Case in point see "John Leonard Orr" - a fire fighter and arson investigator in California that was convicted of 20-some counts of arson and a couple of related murder charges. The FBI thought that he was really responsible for 2,000 fires of various sizes throughout his life though.
Still waiting for my complimentary brick of weed with my plane ticket purchase.
It is a bit like Problem Reaction Solution.
This is different to my reason to wanna be a hero... I've got a mild death wish and quite like the idea of dieing to save another.
In what scenario?
@@TaxingIsThieving in the scenario where someone preferably a young female is about to die then I save her and die myself.
Fitting this comes out the same day as England advances to the finals of the Euros.
Quarktastic!
That last story about the sniffer dog sounded so unreal
Essentially narcissistic personality disorder with a twist.
I'm under the impression that many of these incidents are done by VOLUNTEER firefighters. When I started this reply I couldn't think whether or not The U.K. had V.F.D.s.
As I was typing, I remembered James Acaster on Would I Lie to You, a couple of years ago.
The "This is my..." person turned out to be from his local V.F.D.
Only in America.
Is there some way I can get rescued?
Sounds like someone got a ticket to fly with their ticket to fly
New way to fly high
'Munchhausen's Syndrome' and 'Munchhausen's Syndrome by Proxy' are rare but real psychological disorders. My ex-wife was paid as an expert witness in Court Cases where Guardians purposely injured children with poisons and devices to make them ill. Unfortunately she also had my two perfectly healthy children diagnosed with multiple disabilities but I could not prove that it was due to any intervention by her.
Don't forget to clap for the NHS.
Lord save us from heroes.
These kind of heroes yes, also the onces that think their doing good deeds, but they're actually doing tge opposite!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions!
@@JaneDoe-ci3gj Including all lockdowners.
They’re arsonists first and obsessed with fire. There’s plenty of fires to put out, so they could just do that alone if that’s what it was.
Booking flight to Japan as we speak.
Usually me in traffic
Dog, you had one job!!!
I saw a guy in an Environment Agency van throw a crisp packet out the window. Does that count?
Only if he then stopped the van and picked the crisp packet back up afterwards, when there was a crowd watching to praise him for it.
Asking, "Why did Dick Trickle have a hole in his helmet?" on every Qi video until James gets what he wants.
QI really needs to bring people who are a bit more restrained next time. Jack Dee was practically climbing the walls!
You make something terrible happen and then you look like a hero LMAO
damn, i would Love to be the guy who got a free bag of weed and didnt get sniffed-out...
Fahrenheit 451
Exactly what came to my mind as well.
Oh...I thought it was what Americans call "patriotism"...
It's American foreign policy. They sanction a country to make the local population suffer so they blame their own Government, bomb and invade the shit out of it, then they come in as heroes to "liberate" the people.
Bear in mind just how well paid the job of Fireman is in the USA ...........
Terrific closed shop, you don't have family members or best buds in the trade you *don't* get in apparently.
Bullshit. My Canadian ex-pat neighbor settled here after college and he got a job as a firefighter and EMT with the city fire department. He didn't know anyone and had no family connections. It may well be possible that in some cities it's difficult to get in the door, but it's by no means universally so.
Being a firefighter is like every other job in the sense that there are only so many positions, and if there's more interest than positions then there's competition for those jobs. If instead the interest roughly matches the qualified candidate pool then jobs would be relatively easy to come by.
@@TWX1138 I genuinely don't doubt what you say based on your experience.
BUT
My comment was based on what I've heard US Firefighters stating very much as a 'matter of fact / its obvious' sort of thing.
By way of contrast, in Germany many FireFighters are volunteers (not sure whether paid a small amount or not at all). It regarded as a very positive community spirited sort of thing.
Why would anyone want to be a firefighter?
@@TaxingIsThieving Well let's see:
Because they:
> Enjoy the challenge of putting fires out.
> Get paid (most places) & esteem in others.
> Want to get trained to Paramedic standards (some places)
And for folk like yourself, so they can slide down poles to get into big shiny fire appliances.
to an American, trousers and pants are synonymous
To Liverpudlians as well.
#luvsandiouttro