If we lived in a true democracy, one might make the case that a revision or update of Electoral College is necessary, but we live in a republic. Read Federalist Paper NO. 10 and 39.
@@emperorpalpatine7557 According to the founding fathers, it is a representative republic, e.g., there is a story, that upon exiting the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin was approached by a group of citizens asking what sort of government the delegates had created. His answer was: "A republic, if you can keep it." Also, the word democracy is not found in the constitution, and Article IV, Section 4 refers to a "Republican form of government."
@@emperorpalpatine7557 From Noah Webster's 1828 dictionary, republic is defined as "A commonwealth; a state in which the exercise of the sovereign power is lodged in representatives elected by the people. In modern usage, it differs from a democracy or democratic state, in which the people exercise the powers of sovereignty in person. Yet the democracies of Greece are often called republics." This seems to be in line with what you are saying. My point in the original comment was that many comments on this page seemed to be in favor of direct democracy.
Yes. That and the failure to recognize that states have rights and require equal representation under the Constitution. The job description is in the title, President of the United States. That job is to maintain the union of states and defend the union of the states.
@@TalladegaTomkeep repeating the garbage you learnt in your historical lies. State rights indeed. You folks talk like you’re a divided place and almost like states and companies have more rights than people. When they said state rights, they mean those that controlled the states. Wealthy people. The enslavers who wanted to keep their enslaving activity and worried someone else may interfere. This is the origin of your state right bs. Morons.
All you need to know from this is that the popular vote leads to that winning candidate’s states political party getting to select the people who will be the electors.
@@timrothgeb416 well constitutional scholars state we are a constitutional REPRESENTATIVE republic. Who would know better??? Here is what the liberal leftist Marxist dems dept of education kept out of high school govt currulim class. You will understand better. ua-cam.com/video/VogzExP3qhI/v-deo.htmlsi=HDzeIoM92F00COeY Oh and by the way, when the dept of education was created. The USA was 1st in the world for education. But just one generation later we became 17th in the world for education. Today we are 23rd
That's 🐂 💩 all right!!!!! It's rigged for a certain population 🤥🤥🤥😉of folks who have the protection for there pale face complexion white supremist system
0:01 The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential ticket wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
supposedly by votes, but I find that hard to believe considering it's likely just about nobody votes for electoral college voters cus nobody even knows about it.
They are usually slected by the parties in an election of party members. Each party selects a slate and the winning slate casts their vote for President in December.
This video unfortunately fails to explain why small states would be favored over denser states. The explanation that the video provides is "most states being winner-takes-all" but that is actually completely unrelated. I mean, it's bad because it indeed makes some vote count less than others, but it doesn't make votes from smaller states count less than bigger states, right ? Since electoral votes are distributed depending on the population of each state. So I don't see the logic here. Furthermore, it even seem to be the opposite : big states (at least some) are favored over small states since, as you've said yourself, the swing states are exclusively big states, that also happen to be close races. Now after some research, I learned that the distribution of electoral votes per state is not strictly proportional to the population : instead, each state receives 3 electoral votes THEN the rest of the electoral votes are distributed proportionally to each state's population. This rules indeed seems to favor states that have fewer people. But hold on, fewer people in total doesn't mean smaller population density : actually, a lot of very small states (geographically) only include one or two big cities and are highly densely populated, but the total population of the state is still not much, and yet that state gets at least 3 electoral votes. For example, Rhode Island is favored in that way compared to Ohio. So, it's not true that "rural states" are favored over "big cities"... Brilliantly explained here : ua-cam.com/video/7wC42HgLA4k/v-deo.html
As of today, Nov 14th 2024. Maricopa county, the largest county in Arizona, still has jot counted all of the ballots but the state's electoral college already voted. It appears the electoral college votes are now decided by other means
That's how a few cities determine the entire country's fate. What does a southern californian know about life in kansas? Why should they be able to determine life for them? I think all states should have the same number of votes per state no matter the population. Divvy it up by some process to be determined, but say only 5 votes per state, flat. Those electors must rep the population they are chosen to represent and cast as per.
@@NopeOnARope_ the intent seems noble but tell me how someone with the majority(popular) vote can still lose an election due to having less electoral votes from the election
I'm gonna have to disagree. He got the main reason for the establishment of the EC wrong. The main reason it was established is because the Founders did not trust the general public to select a good president. They felt the public was too dumb and uninformed, and could be mislead by a conman. They wanted the choice to be made by a small number of persons.
As a Belgian, I'm trying to understand how the electoral college works. The electoral college votes are influenced by the majority of people's votes per state. Interesting setup due to a lot of historical politics.
Philadelphia, basically, and maybe a few additional places. It's similar in Maryland; Baltimore City and like 2-3 counties are BLUE and the rest of the state is RED, but the blue areas have higher populations.
I agree that the electoral college is archaic and needs to go the way of the dodo, but I don't think it's fair to say that you vote doesn't count; doing so spreads despondency thus causing LESS people to vote than do now. In the last presidential election (2020), about 66% of eligible voters went to the polls - imagine if the other third did, too? It could have drastically changed the electoral map. As it would if LESS people voted. You are making a bad problem worse.
For creating a system that no other democracy uses? A divisive one where the votes of 7 swing states matter more than all others and republican votes in California and Democrats in Wyoming don’t matter? Sure, good job on them. The rule of the minority. They should be proud👏🏻
Those old, whyte men...SMH The constitution needs to be totally rewritten. The electoral college needs to go away. Everyone's vote should be counted. The 13th amendment needs to be replaced with something relevant. The US constitution is ridiculous and obsolete 😮
I agree! They encourage to vote that each vote counts, but not when negated by this so called electoral college that simply snuffs out the popular votes. It should be one man one vote, simply like that!!
Actually, the electoral college, the point of it, is to ensure there’s no tyranny. You can actually watch some thing from Prager University on the electoral college and why the founders thought this was the best way to elect a president. It is completely unbiased unlike this video.
@@LATrueStorieshard to imagine how it protects against tyranny when it feels like a system that could be abused by a tyrant in order to put themself into power
@@LATrueStories I watched that video and it only lists the benefits of the EC and why we need it. It’s just as biased in the opposite direction as this video.
They need to get rid of the electoral college needs to go away. Everyone's vote should be counted. The whole constitution needs to be amended. It is totally outdated. These old whyte men would write are obsolete. Check out the 13th amendment. 😮
Try it this way: the electoral college has the same number of votes as the Senate plus the House of Representatives. These bodies mean we are a Republic, not a Democracy. We are a union of republican states, and thats how we run our elections. We are not a democracy, because a democracy can vote to ignore individual citizens rights, if they can get 51% to agree. As in England, Canada, the whole EU, and other countries with a parliament but no written constitution.
If you win a state by even one vote you win more winning votes, so if you were to win about one third of the states you could win the election because of the electoral college. Ofcourse this is unlikely so it's more like winning 2 swing states and you win.
The Electoral college outdated. Why use un-elected electors with opinions as intermediarys? Do it by hand count and/or or electronically, bypass electors wanting their own outcome, and send the count straight to congress...or the popular vote.
Thank you for taking the time to explain "how" the Electoral College works, and "why" it works that way. Although the constituation was set forth by the founding fathers, I think with time should come change. However, I can somewhat imagine why it hasn't been changed. If one part of the constitution is amended, another would most likely have to be as well. Additionally, before long, everything about it would be changed. Nevertheless, the way it's done now doesn't seem as though it's the "peoples' votes" that matter the most. Then again, if I understood correctly, a state that gets the majority of the overall votes is the state that automatically receives the electoral votes for that state, right? If that be the case, there's still a signicant downside to that method, since some states will always have the Republican majority and vice versa; so in that aspect, it doesn't give each presidential candidate an equal opportunity to win that particular state. Of course, that's just one person's opinion.
I've never voted but was going to this year till I started looking into it. I'm disabled and can't drive so there's really no point in me having to get a ride to go vote because I live in NC. This system is screwed up really what's the point in voting if it doesn't count. The county needs trump so bad right now. I pray he wins.
That's why mail in vote is another option if you can't drive unless your Trump supporter like you are. It's only fair when your vote counts if you live in the red state and if Trump win, right?
If we lived in a true democracy, one might make the case that a revision or update of Electoral College is necessary, but we live in a republic. Read Federalist Paper NO. 10 and 39.
We are a constitutional Republic. The term democracy gets tossed around without a full understanding of the difference between the two concepts.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
After watching the video and reading many of the comments, I am even happier that the United States is not a democracy.
Its a representative democracy my friend
@@emperorpalpatine7557 According to the founding fathers, it is a representative republic, e.g., there is a story, that upon exiting the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin was approached by a group of citizens asking what sort of government the delegates had created. His answer was: "A republic, if you can keep it." Also, the word democracy is not found in the constitution, and Article IV, Section 4 refers to a "Republican form of government."
a republic is a representative democracy my brother
@@emperorpalpatine7557 From Noah Webster's 1828 dictionary, republic is defined as "A commonwealth; a state in which the exercise of the sovereign power is lodged in representatives elected by the people. In modern usage, it differs from a democracy or democratic state, in which the people exercise the powers of sovereignty in person. Yet the democracies of Greece are often called republics." This seems to be in line with what you are saying. My point in the original comment was that many comments on this page seemed to be in favor of direct democracy.
I stopped watching when you started entering your opinions on the system, instead of just explaining it.
Yes.
That and the failure to recognize that states have rights and require equal representation under the Constitution.
The job description is in the title, President of the United States. That job is to maintain the union of states and defend the union of the states.
@@TalladegaTomkeep repeating the garbage you learnt in your historical lies. State rights indeed. You folks talk like you’re a divided place and almost like states and companies have more rights than people. When they said state rights, they mean those that controlled the states. Wealthy people. The enslavers who wanted to keep their enslaving activity and worried someone else may interfere. This is the origin of your state right bs. Morons.
We're not a democracy, were a "Republic"!!
All you need to know from this is that the popular vote leads to that winning candidate’s states political party getting to select the people who will be the electors.
Well we are not a democracy nor a democratic republic. We are a constitutional REPRESENTATIVE republic.
We are a Democratic Constitutional Republic according to the US House of Representatives. But we are governed like an oligarchy.
@@timrothgeb416 well constitutional scholars state we are a constitutional REPRESENTATIVE republic.
Who would know better???
Here is what the liberal leftist Marxist dems dept of education kept out of high school govt currulim class. You will understand better.
ua-cam.com/video/VogzExP3qhI/v-deo.htmlsi=HDzeIoM92F00COeY
Oh and by the way, when the dept of education was created. The USA was 1st in the world for education. But just one generation later we became 17th in the world for education. Today we are 23rd
@@timrothgeb416 definitely seems more like a plutocracy since the few that control the country are wealthy beyond our wildest dreams.
This method needs to GO! So really 538 people decide who wins? Please.
That's 🐂 💩 all right!!!!! It's rigged for a certain population 🤥🤥🤥😉of folks who have the protection for there pale face complexion white supremist system
0:01 The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential ticket wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
That's stupid.
How are the electors selected?
supposedly by votes, but I find that hard to believe considering it's likely just about nobody votes for electoral college voters cus nobody even knows about it.
They are usually slected by the parties in an election of party members. Each party selects a slate and the winning slate casts their vote for President in December.
Honest question as I am unfamiliar in this subject. Are the electoral college voters chosen at random or appointed by someone?
appointed by your govt, ''they'' are the house of delegates and Congress members that vote for an American election.
So it's a problem if your candidate doesn't win.
It’s a problem when the candidate with the majority of popular votes looses….
Two hundred years it's been working. Obviously you don't understand it.
@@CP-sy9cd Because the popular vote couldn't possibly be wrong...
This video unfortunately fails to explain why small states would be favored over denser states. The explanation that the video provides is "most states being winner-takes-all" but that is actually completely unrelated. I mean, it's bad because it indeed makes some vote count less than others, but it doesn't make votes from smaller states count less than bigger states, right ? Since electoral votes are distributed depending on the population of each state. So I don't see the logic here. Furthermore, it even seem to be the opposite : big states (at least some) are favored over small states since, as you've said yourself, the swing states are exclusively big states, that also happen to be close races.
Now after some research, I learned that the distribution of electoral votes per state is not strictly proportional to the population : instead, each state receives 3 electoral votes THEN the rest of the electoral votes are distributed proportionally to each state's population. This rules indeed seems to favor states that have fewer people. But hold on, fewer people in total doesn't mean smaller population density : actually, a lot of very small states (geographically) only include one or two big cities and are highly densely populated, but the total population of the state is still not much, and yet that state gets at least 3 electoral votes. For example, Rhode Island is favored in that way compared to Ohio. So, it's not true that "rural states" are favored over "big cities"...
Brilliantly explained here : ua-cam.com/video/7wC42HgLA4k/v-deo.html
As of today, Nov 14th 2024. Maricopa county, the largest county in Arizona, still has jot counted all of the ballots but the state's electoral college already voted. It appears the electoral college votes are now decided by other means
Watches explainer video. Still confused. 😂
Popular votes seems more simple and straightforward
that's cuz it is, but all the people in power are old, like the age of my grandfather old and they don't want us to take the power away from them
That's how a few cities determine the entire country's fate. What does a southern californian know about life in kansas? Why should they be able to determine life for them? I think all states should have the same number of votes per state no matter the population. Divvy it up by some process to be determined, but say only 5 votes per state, flat. Those electors must rep the population they are chosen to represent and cast as per.
@@NopeOnARope_ the intent seems noble but tell me how someone with the majority(popular) vote can still lose an election due to having less electoral votes from the election
Watch the one by Prager University instead it actually is easier to understand and doesn’t have any bias in it.
@@LATrueStories thank you. That was a lot more understandable ☺️
So our votes only count if they fall on the same side our electoral representative wants it to, otherwise they just vote the way they want.
No. Don’t be silly. You don’t really think the College Reps ever vote against the State vote do you?
No, you got it wrong.
@@dmanson4649 Only the ones who are beholden to fuhrer tRump. Just watch. There's already been fake electors from the GOP side.
The best explanation found on UA-cam!!!
I'm gonna have to disagree. He got the main reason for the establishment of the EC wrong. The main reason it was established is because the Founders did not trust the general public to select a good president. They felt the public was too dumb and uninformed, and could be mislead by a conman. They wanted the choice to be made by a small number of persons.
So glad our founders created a Constitutional Republic instead of the Democracy explained in this video. FYI-every vote does count!
As a Belgian, I'm trying to understand how the electoral college works.
The electoral college votes are influenced by the majority of people's votes per state.
Interesting setup due to a lot of historical politics.
We are a republic !
Why is Rhode Island dark on the map at 1:20. Like it's so small it's doesn't exist.
The music is very distracting.
So why pensylvania became blue even if their was majority of red
Philadelphia, basically, and maybe a few additional places.
It's similar in Maryland; Baltimore City and like 2-3 counties are BLUE and the rest of the state is RED, but the blue areas have higher populations.
I agree that the electoral college is archaic and needs to go the way of the dodo, but I don't think it's fair to say that you vote doesn't count; doing so spreads despondency thus causing LESS people to vote than do now. In the last presidential election (2020), about 66% of eligible voters went to the polls - imagine if the other third did, too? It could have drastically changed the electoral map. As it would if LESS people voted. You are making a bad problem worse.
Maintain a balance of between states? Yeah right, not even close why it exist.
The Founders don’t get enough credit for this foresight and genius. 🇺🇸
For creating a system that no other democracy uses? A divisive one where the votes of 7 swing states matter more than all others and republican votes in California and Democrats in Wyoming don’t matter? Sure, good job on them. The rule of the minority. They should be proud👏🏻
Are you kidding?
Those old, whyte men...SMH The constitution needs to be totally rewritten. The electoral college needs to go away. Everyone's vote should be counted. The 13th amendment needs to be replaced with something relevant. The US constitution is ridiculous and obsolete 😮
I agree! They encourage to vote that each vote counts, but not when negated by this so called electoral college that simply snuffs out the popular votes. It should be one man one vote, simply like that!!
it's funny how India counts their votes by hand despite having 2 billion people but the US can't.
The popular vote should really be all that counts in the Presidential election, the Electoral College is a ridiculous and unfair system.
Actually, the electoral college, the point of it, is to ensure there’s no tyranny. You can actually watch some thing from Prager University on the electoral college and why the founders thought this was the best way to elect a president. It is completely unbiased unlike this video.
The Electoral College only becomes ridiculous when the "winner takes all" comes into play, even if the difference is only one vote.
@@LATrueStorieshard to imagine how it protects against tyranny when it feels like a system that could be abused by a tyrant in order to put themself into power
@@LATrueStories I watched that video and it only lists the benefits of the EC and why we need it. It’s just as biased in the opposite direction as this video.
No it shouldn’t. Every state counts and should have equal representation. If not, states with more people can dictate what all other states can do
Electoral college needs to go
3:18 I still don't get it!!!! He lost me along time ago.
They need to get rid of the electoral college needs to go away. Everyone's vote should be counted. The whole constitution needs to be amended. It is totally outdated. These old whyte men would write are obsolete. Check out the 13th amendment. 😮
Try it this way: the electoral college has the same number of votes as the Senate plus the House of Representatives. These bodies mean we are a Republic, not a Democracy. We are a union of republican states, and thats how we run our elections.
We are not a democracy, because a democracy can vote to ignore individual citizens rights, if they can get 51% to agree.
As in England, Canada, the whole EU, and other countries with a parliament but no written constitution.
If you win a state by even one vote you win more winning votes, so if you were to win about one third of the states you could win the election because of the electoral college. Ofcourse this is unlikely so it's more like winning 2 swing states and you win.
@@bobbarclay316 They cant ignore rights, though.
@@ZeYoX-mw7sh In a Democracy, rights are what the majority say they are. Another reason we are a Republic.
The Electoral college outdated. Why use un-elected electors with opinions as intermediarys? Do it by hand count and/or or electronically, bypass electors wanting their own outcome, and send the count straight to congress...or the popular vote.
Video was pretty good until the personal opinion entered smh
Affirmative action states
Thank you for taking the time to explain "how" the Electoral College works, and "why" it works that way. Although the constituation was set forth by the founding fathers, I think with time should come change. However, I can somewhat imagine why it hasn't been changed. If one part of the constitution is amended, another would most likely have to be as well. Additionally, before long, everything about it would be changed. Nevertheless, the way it's done now doesn't seem as though it's the "peoples' votes" that matter the most. Then again, if I understood correctly, a state that gets the majority of the overall votes is the state that automatically receives the electoral votes for that state, right? If that be the case, there's still a signicant downside to that method, since some states will always have the Republican majority and vice versa; so in that aspect, it doesn't give each presidential candidate an equal opportunity to win that particular state. Of course, that's just one person's opinion.
You spoke lots of gibber jabber and less about important stuff
It should be only popular vote
No it shouldn’t bud. If there was only popular vote it will go to one party forever.
@@marcusreacts285 "It shouldn't be by popular vote because the other party is more liked than the other" is a WILD admittance.
@@TraceyIsTired: So you’re in favour of Taxation Without Representation? That caused a bit of trouble a while back if I recall…
@@dmanson4649 chat does he know what a "congress" is?
@@dmanson4649 Ah yes because red states certainly don't exist and the office of the president is the only office.
I've never voted but was going to this year till I started looking into it. I'm disabled and can't drive so there's really no point in me having to get a ride to go vote because I live in NC. This system is screwed up really what's the point in voting if it doesn't count. The county needs trump so bad right now. I pray he wins.
That's why mail in vote is another option if you can't drive unless your Trump supporter like you are. It's only fair when your vote counts if you live in the red state and if Trump win, right?
you can do both, pray then Vote
In my State, you could vote even if you were dead. That vote would go to Harris though. No negotiations.
This is why Trump before even running for president used to say the elections were rigged.
How you like them apples?
As usual, his accusations are confessions, as he plans to rig it his way, when he loses, through the use of corrupt electors and judges.
The electoral college no longer works due to advanced communications today