Slo4Sho 2.3L Turbo Mustang Build
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Just a few of the build combo details.
Stock iron block with stock crank
Diamond Pistons 0.020 over
Crower Sportsman 5.5 Rods
FelPro 1035 Headgasket
ARP standard head studs (not undercut) with thread modification
Stock iron D-Port head with stock size replacement valves (ported by Steve Schlodes)
Schneider camshaft
Esslinger water pump
Garrett GTX3583R Turbocharger with Tial 1.03 A/R housing
Tial 38mm wastegate
Injector Dynamics ID2000
FuelLab inline fuel pump -8 feed and -6 return
MS3Pro
IGN1A Ignition Coils
NGK BR7EF Spark Plugs
C4 Transmission with 8 inch Coan Converter (manual valvebody with transbrake)
Reactor 135 tooth flexplate
Quicktime Bellhousing
Mickey Thompson 275/60/15 drag radials
4.10 rear gear
Intake, Header, Intercooler, Intercooler Water Tank, Crankcase Tank, Alternator Bracket, 8.8 rear and Fuel Tank made by svojon and/or svojohn
#turbo #dragracing #gtx3582r #slo4sho #ms3pro #mustang #turbomustang #foxbody
As one of the people that helped pioneer running & building 2.3 turbo engines in non-SVO Mustangs back in the 90s... This makes me happy to see. People thought I was crazy swapping T-Bird engines into Mustangs & writing schematics to wire them in, until they saw some of the things we were doing made these things spank V8 cars. Glad to see other people carried it on even further.
I just got one of these cars and I have no idea where to start on how to get it back to running, no fuel pressure at the rail but I already diagnosed that, the wiring in the engine bay looks like a nightmare to a novice like me
Can I make a ford transit connect motor push a little more power , it's my project
@@chrisacrylics_ or drive it directly to the junkyard
@@chrisacrylics_ hell yeah just whole different genre of cars search for “full bolt on with tune” modern cars ez
I'm soon to build a '79 2.3 turbo pace car. I want to re route the original draw-thru carb setup and move towards blow thru careb or efi. Given your experience, what is your recommendation for this particular engine? Its important to keep in consideration that the car lives in Ecuador and stays most of its time at around 9 000 feet above sea level, so a dedicated carb seems as expensive as efi at this point.
Awesome job, I'm at 80% build 1985 SVO, Tall Deck, Esslinger SVO head, 67MM turbo, this is a tribute car to my late friend Kevin Hill, he passed away before he put it together. The engine is 3.1 liters, should be a handful when finished. Love your fab work !!!
God bless, hope it's running well, may he rest in peace, sorry for your loss
This my friends is the definition of a sleeper in pure form. Well done sir, well done.
Thanks!
I learned in my youth in the early 90s, a proper built 2.3 will leave you embarrassed
Holy moly!!!! this! This is finally 2.3 justice! I would love to join this club.
It's a very small club! :(
I love the ecotec scene, I hope the LNF/LSJ blocks start getting more love and attention from everyone!
@@kindbud that's not a ecotec.
@@svojon Man I'm about to buy my first car, its a 79' pace car with a 2.3 Turbo from the factory, can't wait to build it
@@kindbud lol
Gotta give credit where credit is due Great build señor
Thanks!
That is some serious work summed up in 10 minutes 😮
Thanks for noticing.
Totally awesome job and results, man! Thanx for sharing. I'm from Brazil and I'm a Limas engine builder, love them, but even here, where it was made for so many years( at Taubaté ford powerplant) and we don´t have 1/100 of v8s you got on USA, there's no market for the limas either, build 1 or 2 a year like you. Big respect to your job!
Thanks marcosnhard! I've seen some really nice builds from Brazil. Much respect!
What horse power is a stock block good for
My very first car, motor combo. I spent every single dollar on it and insurance. Top ramen was a treat back then... Haha. I had a notch tho. Now I have a 89 Saleen hatch with a proper motor, but my love for the fox was born with this little Lima beast
Awesome build showing the small details and incredible results. I'm still running the shortblock and intake manifold you built back in 2013.
Thanks! Haven't heard from you in a long time. Nice to know you're still around and using that shortblock and intake manifold. Awesome!
Great build here Gratz..!!!! Just reminiscent of the late 70s out of the Detroit area remember Tom Ryders 85 SVO Tbird ,Rich burns 86 merkur XR4TI which was land speed record holder at Bonneville with a 2 way AVG of 208 mph and yep all them XE parts that came out of Southfield that made our little pintos drag 1 V8 after another down the dam highway...gosh the memories was a great time to be around!!!!
I'm pretty sure Burns was using the Esslinger aluminum cylinder head and the Ford tall deck racing block, correct? Our combo still uses the stock block and stock iron head.
@@svojon hey ya Jon well at that time my father who worked at the experimental machine shop in Allen Park did 2 iron 2.3L heads which 1 went on burns car his motor was stock configuration at Bonneville hence holding land speed record for 2.3L but only for 1 year as the chevy ecotec turbo 2.3L surpassed it the following year
@@DRO0GGGG Do you know how fast he went with the stock configuration?
@@svojon at Bonneville during speed week his 2 way average was 208 mph from what I can remember that was many years ago...
@@DRO0GGGG That's pretty amazing!
Great build. I rebuilt one of these and swapped it into 71 Triumph Tr6. With T5 trans and r200 rear diff.. great motor.
What does a 71 Triumph Tr6 weigh?
@@svojon 2500lbs
@@svojon engine and clutch together about 400 lbs
In 1986 I bought a new Merkur XR4Ti 2.3L Turbo 5-spd. It would outrun almost anything on the road at that time. On Interstate 10 I would outrun Vettes and motorcycles on the top end. My wife’s uncle had a hotrod SWB C10 with a 396 and l blew his doors off, he got super pissed! I miss that car!
Spanked EVERYBODY! Haha, absolutely gnarly Turbo Ford. So sick! 😎
I used to run a 1598cc Ford Kent draw through turbo in 78 Ford Fiesta,
had a Turbonetics waste gate, adjustable boost, I would often see 20 psi
on cool night, no knocking, pinging, 5.0 Mustangs were lunch in the mid
80's for a car that weighed 1580lbs....
Not sure if I could handle going fast in a Fiesta. The short wheel base has to be scary at speed. The car in the video weighs 2850 with the driver. Would be awesome if we could shave 1000 pounds off it. lol!
@@svojon Love your work, keep it up, plenty of us fellow gear heads out there. Side note in High School the early Fox body cars were one of my favorites, especially the SVO car. I have a original drawing/trace of the SVO drafting class as they had plenty of clear tracing paper to make images, then to blue print paper, something that's not used much anymore actual blue prints from tracings. Awesome your inspiring me to keep up with few more projects I have going. Fabrication is something I have yet to fully test, I've done few small repair panels all hand made for 70 BMW E9 we have here, but never any tig welding yet.
@@svojon I sold the MK1 Fiesta, but before I sold it I went to dual carbs, high compression set up seen in these photos...www.race-cars.com/carsold/ford/1087557734/1087557734pa.htm
Nice!
The first time I seen an SVO was in a magazine during my high school years. Never thought I would ever own one or become one of the svo gurus on how to make them perform better. My background is in audio and had nothing to do with engines or welding. Would love to put out more content but 2020 has been a big kick in the balls.
really nice craftsmanship, and the results speak for themselves.
@9:43 Those gauges linked real-time back to the car during the shot, that's really cool stuff. Suggest throwing fuel pressure up there.
We do log fuel pressure but didn't see any reason to add it to the video.
damn, i just want my SVO to corner decent and put down sub 14's lol, also would like a front facing intake plenum instead of the standard 90
There’s an SVO 2.3 in Midland, Tx that runs 8’s and is street legal....and this was 20 years ago...
I assume you're referring to JDB? Never seen it run in the 8's but did see low 9's. Also that wasn't a 2.3L. He was using a non-production tall deck block with a 3.0L crankshaft. The cylinder head was an aluminum Esslinger SVO head.
Our block, crank and cylinder head is the stock cast iron stuff that anyone can easily get. Nothing special.
Proper machining tiggin and miggin right there! Absolutely beautiful work. The intake with the proper length bellmouths and the big plenum volume ❤️❤️❤️. You could sell them for a grand. I never understood those 3 inch pipe rigs they were selling back in the day. I want to do something like that using carbon because I have to pay for machining. I'll do a sendcutsend flange on both ends with carbon bellmouths and plenum. Right after I get that Blue Top head. Thinking about dual injectors, 2nd for Meth. Looks like 302 splayed main caps will bite into the meaty part towards the pan rail on small journal block followed by an align bore. I've never seen it before but it looks like a stronger part to me. When looking how the main webs tuck in under the main caps.
I tried selling the intakes. The biggest issue was everyone wants something different. Total PITA and very time consuming. Plus you have to put up with the FUD about not needing a better intake.
Wow....thats crazy stuff man. Great job! I have an SVO 2.3 turbo. Lots of fun to drive.
Thanks T JOKER! It's good to hear that you have fun driving yours.
Some awesome skills shown here.
Thanks!
I think this would be a nice fit in my 1951 Ford F3, I don't think I need that much horsepower...
The build me a 6cylinder Barra for my 1979 Ford F-100...
Just subscribed...
That would be different.
@@svojon
You want me to ship my F3 down to you first...
@@svojon
Have you seen the Ford 2.3 block with the 16 valve Volvo head swap, and what do you think of it...
Run the exhaust out the fender and slightly up- then always race from the left lane. :-) The ghost of my SVO salutes you.
We run a street class and one of the rules is the exhaust has to extend past the firewall.
Serious skills envy. Awesome work.
Thanks!
Damn son save some fab work for the rest of us
Bahahahahaha! Well said brother!!
Ok a little late but this gets me excited I’ve got a 94 ranger long box slammed to the ground and I’m just putting the finishing touches/ tuning my Lima with a 67 mm turbo, won’t be the fastest cat on the block but still gunna turn some heads
By the way just looked at the license plate on the car.. believe it or not the plate on my ranger is low4show... 😂
That 67mm is a fairly big turbo compared to our 58mm. Why so big?
Way to represent and expand on SVO's engineering! Thought it was interesting that you running a C4. Most 2.3 Turbo owners tend to go manual w/O.D.
One quick question. In the Roll Race footage: You using the 4.10 gears?? If so, that's some exceptionally impressive gapping skills! Great video. Thanks for the inspiration.
Representing SVO's and all the 2.3 Ford Turbos, his car is impressive!!
The manual transmissions are way too much money for us. Very hard on the drive train as well. The C4 has been very good to us. In fact it's been in the car over 5 years now and we haven't had to touch it. Yes the rear gear is a 4.10 and using a 28 inch tall tire.
some Ford fans invest in the C5 from the 1980's, it has better oiling than the C4 and takes a lockup torque converter. supposedly you can swap in a C4 valve body and go from there. It's the C3 that's the weak sister.
Seeing this 'Stang makes me want to take the 2.5 internals, a 2.3 Lima block, and the 2.3L Duratec DOHC cylinder head and create a way to mate it all together, and at the end, make it a turbo car, with 8-10 lbs of boost. And for a drivetrain, use a Subaru or Focus AWD driveline system.
That is the dream.
Why not just use the Duratec block? Seems like it would save you a lot of trouble. There's nothing special about the Lima block.
@@svojon : Because of the timing system being OBD-I. It has a lot easier diagnostics than OBD-II, plus I find it's a bit more forgiving with less sensors, and less computer controls.
Plus, the Duratec bottom end isn't rebuildable, as far as I know.
This is all out no money limit quality build. All wicked work. Details it's all about everything come together. You nailed it. I figure it's about 20 grand in motor alone if you did most yourself ? 30 grandd ? Either way it will smoke any new car and most race cars. Beautiful work wow it's amazing build of grey craftsmanship in the fabrication as well. Beautifull enjoy
Thanks Eddie! Actually the motor is very cheap. The turbo cost more than the entire engine. Also the entire car complete is less than 20k.
@@svojon wow I am clueless on these. Allways liked V8 ford and big blocks. These are mental sick fast for such small engine it's amazing. 2.3. I see lots of them at wreckers and I' want one. I was going to do a 460 pinto but not anymore. I would rather learn the tricks about these 4 bangers. What a sleeper engine really I see so many take on new vettes and new Hellcats no prob. This is fun stuff. Every engine has its own tricks and quirks to get them fast and these are so cool I can re and re myself with a chain just lift it out by hand myself practically. So light. Wicked. Thanks for share. My friend is great with ford 289 and big blocks for do them up truck so I gotta learn these 2.3 tricks myself. What a blast. Go blow by these yoppies in Benz and BMW and modern fast cars are still nothing in 1/4 mile against a tricked out 2.3. I see pinto doing 7.6 and fast times he blows away big blower Nitris V8s. This is ultimate shocker sleeper
@@eddiespagetti8395 The 2.3 is almost the same weight as the 302 so not really going to save any weight vs. the V8.
We still run the stock crank and basically you just need rods and pistons. The Crower sportsman rods are good enough for most people. We've never broken one.
You can use the stock cast iron D-port head. Just upgrade the cam, springs, lifters, etc... We still ran high 9's in the 1/4 mile with no port work to the head. Boost was around 35 to 40ish. A good port job will get another 100hp around the same boost level.
@@svojon wow really solid engine weight wise, I though oh 4 cly must be half weight ? All good because it's the power I love outta the 2.3 and sound cooler to me also. That sound from these is awesome. Thanks for your time and tips this is going to be alot of fun to tinker with. Getting it dialed in and get all bugs out is fun work for me too. Now I just gotta figure. Car to build it for and I love sleepers so a ford Fairmont or escort would be a blast. I'm not into Mustangs and popular ford styles
@@eddiespagetti8395 Fairmont would be good. It's basically the same chassis as the fox body so suspension setup will be easy to dial in.
wow , love the work very nice. my svo would love that intake lol
Thanks Anthony!
impresive work, you got great skills.
Thanks!
Built,......not bought. Sweet fab work .
Thanks!
Mad f...ing scientist I love it
This car impresses me.
Awesome "little Pinto motor"!
That thing gapped them all!!
I've got a bunch of HiPo parts for my '84 GT Turbo Mustang but cant find a machine shop/engine builder who wants to mess with a 2.3L Ford 4 cylinder engine.
I'm in the Baltimore/DC area. Do you know any shops that do quality 2.3L builds?
Unfortunately I have the same problem when it comes to machine shops and had to learn how to do it myself.
Impressive!! Well done sir!
Thank you!
That lil bad ass SVO!
Bad azzzz nuff said !!
Great work!
Thanks!
I did a lil bit of porting on my head n I thought I was the shit .man man man but this is jus a beut
Sick build!!
Smiles in esslinger
WOW
This mustang isss sick dude
Was that a homemade cutter you used to surface the head?
Yes it was.
@@svojon do you have any pics of it or prints/dimensions? I’d be interested in making one for myself
@@bpowda84 It's roughly 7.125 inches in diameter and 1 inch thick. Made from steel. Uses 2 carbide inserts. Currently don't have any pics of it to share but I can get some if needed. Just let me know.
Amazing job wtg
How much HP have that engine ? I have an 2.3 Lima on a Ford Sierra
The Wallace calculator puts it around 570 to 600hp based on the ET and MPH at the track.
I'm in the process of building a 2.3 Turbo in a 88 T-Bird. This gives me some good ideas. What are you using for Engine Management ? Turbo size ?
MS3Pro with ID2000 injectors and IGN1A ignition coils. The turbo is a Garrett GTX3582R with a Tial 1.01 turbine housing.
Great build!
Thanks!
Is there anyway you would be able to make the portion of that intake that connects to the head with the injector ports there? I'd love that part of it then I could have the rest made because I want something a bit different for what I have in mind
this is bunk,they used a pre go head,the rear two intake ports were the worst you'd ever find
Say what? I have no idea what you're talking about.
Bad Ass! Very nice build
Thanks Redwood!
The maker of this car, please give me advice on how to build the same way
I think there's 2 options. You either learn by doing things yourself or pay someone who can build it for you.
Nice build.
Thanks D B!
@@svojon it sounds amazing. Is is still a stock bottom end?
@@brokewheels5 Stock block with 1/4 fill, stock crank, Crower 5.5 Sportsman Rods and 0.020 over Diamond Pistons.
@@svojon it's impressive, good work
How can i build my 2wd 86 ranger with the 2.3 Lima EFI non turbo into something that gets close to or around 200hp, without sacrificing MPGs. I know turbos can increase efficiency. What about ethano? Propane?
You need a cylinder head that can flow at least 200 cfm on the intake. Use a cam that will give it more upper rpm range. Up the compression ratio. A tuned intake and exhaust manifold will help. MPGs depend on your foot control and tire pressures :)
@svojon excellent, thank you. I plan on porting the head myself, and have a welding machine to fab my own exhaust manifold. Shooting for a muffled lope. Any recommendation for clutch/stall/trans and rear end? I wanna go wild eventually and fab a tubbed dually. Any advice is appreciated
Man! Where can I get that ITB from you?!
Unfortunately it's just a custom one off part.
Curious if you used anything from esslinger? I'm thinking about doing a fox build myself.
Using the Esslinger water pump and cam pulleys. The solid lifters are the larger diameter version found on the Esslinger aluminum heads. Had to make the lifter inserts myself as nobody makes them for the iron head.
Absolutely amazing work! Are you going to start selling that intake and intercooler setup?
Thanks! No I don't think there's a market for these engines. Building 1 or 2 a year isn't worth anyone's time.
@@svojon idk man theres a huge turbo 4banger ford following. Im planning on building one of mine up soon. A modern style i4 intake would sell like crazy in the 2.3/2.5 market id buy one for sure
svojon Nah man I’d definitely buy one those are beautiful.
Thanks Jim! Maybe I'll try to come up with something and test the waters to see what happens.
@@svojon please do! Look at the turbo ford page on facebook... still alot of turbo 2.3s running around and people looking to turbo but lack of decent parts kind of sucks
Looking to do this to my mazda b2300
I think i´m in love....
Please tell me how much you paid to make the turbo possible and how hard it was I got an 84 Ford ranger with a 2.3 I need more power out of
It's fairly easy to find the cast iron turbo manifolds to bolt on a turbo for the 2.3L engine. You can also easily find the OEM turbo ecus to add the extra fuel for boost.
How did the whole build cost to built engine an everything
I’m way late to the party but I’ve gone through the comments and haven’t found an answer. Are you using stock turbo 2.3 rods and pistons? If not what is your combo? Thanks!
Also what cam are you using?
I'm pretty sure the engine combo is in the description. The pistons are from Diamond and the rods are Crower 5.5 sportsman. Still using the stock crank.
@@cyode123434 Camshaft is a custom grind from Schneider Cams. Intake is 255 @ 0.050 with 0.620 lift, Exhaust is 245 @ 0.050 with 0.610 lift, LSA = 115.
You are fuckin fantastic!
What alternator bracket are you running? I cant find any that allows that lower passenger location
I made it. I'd show pictures but I don't know how to post it here.
svojon are you a member of the turbo ford group on Facebook?
@@mattmantooth931 Yes
So... what did it put down on the dyno?
How much would it cost me to get my hands on one of those intakes u make
Hey Jon, Just wanted to get your advice on a cam for my esslinger SVO head. Its bare at the moment, I do have oversized valves and some old crane cams dual valve springs(99838-16) is the part number but I only have 8 or at least thats the box it came in haha. . I bought all this years ago and I have forgot some of the info. I am not sure if these are even compatible with this head? When it comes to heads and which cam etc, it gets confusing pretty fast for me. I am wanting to get this head assembled but I still need to pick a cam , any suggestions? Its just a nasty street/strip combo im putting together.
Cams for the Esslinger SVO head need to have oil holes drilled into the journal area as the head itself doesn't supply oil to the cam through the 2,3,4 cam towers. Four holes are drilled and a single groove is usually the method used on 2,3,4 camshaft journals.
For the springs (99838-16), you need to measure the installed height of your head. Crane recommends 1.65 inches for those springs. The SVO heads I have are 1.85 inches so those springs won't work. You need to know many more specs before you purchase the right springs.
Picking the "right cam" depends on everything else about your combo (turbo, rear gear, trans type, etc...). You don't need anything aggressive if it's mostly for street use.
@@svojon Hmm that is interesting. I have never heard of the extra holes needing to be drilled. The car isnt a full race car by any means. This is just another engine I am building on the side of the one I have right now.
Currently have a bo port stage 3(or so i was told) with a 2.5 cam, bo port header and hx35 with a T5 tranny and a pimp.
Eventually I will go with a nice C4 trans and shoot for 9's with the new head, shortblock and turbo set up. I am just looking for recommendations on a cam and springs for the SVO head so I can send it off to be assembled.
Do you have the cylinder head in front of you? Look at the cam towers, do you see any oil feed holes in them? I'm going to guess NO. That's why the cam needs to be drilled. Doesn't matter if it's for race or street, still needs them either way.
Who are you sending the head to for assembly?
@@svojon I'll be damned, you are correct. I bought this head 5 years ago because I never see them come up so I jumped on it. Just never heard of that one and when i contacted esslinger for a cam a couple years ago they never mentioned that either.
You know I am not really sure where I am going to send the head, If I was going to have to done somewhere local or maybe talk to schlodes. Any reccomendations?
Esslinger "if you don't ask they don't tell". Where about are you located?
What's your 1/4 mile time though? 1/8 mile time... etc.
What's the point?
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What's the point of what?
That's fast!!
@svojon I hav a 2.3 duel spark motor in my 93. I was thinking about building it out. Have you had any problems and is it reliable.
Problems with our engine?
@@svojon Have you had any problems?
@@brett4368 Had some head gasket issues early on but figured that out. For an engine that has been running high 9's for the last 5 years or so... it's been very good. Nothing to complain about on my end.
@@svojon what do you tune the car on?
I'm assuming you're asking about the fuel being used? It's VP110. The ecu is an MS3Pro with 4 Injector Dynamics 2000cc injectors. Spark plugs are NGK BR7EF gaped at 0.019.
How much would you charge me for a intake manifold. I have the 2.3 non turbo in my boat (89 bayliner capri) Iam in the process of switching it over to fuel injection from carb, and will turbo it. Iam in miami. let me know.
It doesnt need to be super fancy, just something simple that works.
Is this the Lima engine that goes guys talk about?
I don't know. I guess that depends on what the talk is about. :)
What's the power numbers?
Hey man I’m looking to build my 4 banger fox got anymore build details?
Read the description below the video for more details. If you have a specific question feel free to ask.
svojon thanks man I’ll let you know
svojon stock block turbo coupe motor?
@@kovidka1 Ours is from an SVO but yes the turbo coupe block is the same.
What kind of power is it making?
I would be just guessing. It was on the dyno many years ago. Made 424 rwhp.
That is really incredible! How much power is it making?
I'd guess 600 at the crank.
I have so many questions
Okay. Go ahead and ask.
How much horsepower did it make?
Probably much lower than you're thinking. Haha!
svojon I’m guessing around 480hp
@@flyingpancake7790 Much lower. lol!
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Can you build me one
Call out Cooper from Cleetus McFarland UA-cam channel he is building a 2j Camaro.
I watch their videos and I've never seen anything about them building a 2j Camaro.
Bro All that time and money to build a 2.3 when you could have just LS or 5.0 coyote swaped it
Not sure about the money part. The turbo cost more than the complete engine. I'd recommend everyone to start with a small cubic inch motor. It'll make you much better at the how.
my phone changed FI to go
f#ckers. :-P I gotta get better tig aluminum skills. You guys are killing it.
Lmfao. V8 killer
Car was cool Until you did the F & F roll racing crap....
Life is too short for complaining. Have fun while you can.
Seeing this 'Stang makes me want to take the 2.5 internals, a 2.3 Lima block, and the 2.3L Duratec cylinder head and create a way to mate it all together, and at the end, make it a turbo car, with 8-10 lbs of boost. And for a drivetrain, use a Subaru or Focus AWD driveline system.
That is the dream.
Build a 2.5 folvo with the Volvo head like a pro four engine they make close to 400hp without a turbo with twin cams and quad valves
@@79huddy : That may be true.
But that is also an interference engine, whereas the Ford 2.3 and 2.5 were non-interference engines.