NJ's parents are okay with MHJ calling their daughters "pig / fat / brainless" (which are clearly printed) but got mad about an alleged "ignore her" remark which MAY or MAY NOT happen. Really weird parents.
reminds me of the saying that bad publicity is still good publicity, and that the worst thing is not being talked about at all. maybe in their heads it doesn't matter how openly rude or strict mhj is to the girls, as long as they remain the center of attention and people talk. its worse to not be acknowledged at all. creepy and destructive as hell of them indeed.
There are parents out there more interested in the paycheck than their children's welfare. And in this case, these parents are going after the only source of funding since MHJ doesn't have it without Hybe and the group is locked into their contract. Unless they get Hybe to pay them, they have no more income from the girls.
Security images are deleted after a while because there won't be enough memory to store images for a very long period. I read that in Korea it is a law that they are deleted within a short period of time for privacy reasons. MHJ, as always, is diabolically trying to buy time and for everyone to forget the harassment case that the former ADOR employee suffered, and reported to the former CEO and she covered it up. Harassment is a crime and no one says anything anymore.
@@mobr51 and also if the “bullying” happened while MHJ was CEO then she should have handled it especially since NJ is so precious to her. But of course the incident wasn’t reported because it didn’t happen.
“Ignore her” for your own safety. Even if the manager did say it, she was protecting one of her own charges, because of the fear that anything that was said to her would be reported back to Min to use against them. I have a feeling these little madams are probably bullies themselves. These people have over rated self importance, thinking their children should be treated better than they treat others.
I bet Nj ignored other artists as well as if they are busy or unaware💀💀. If that's the case, other artists might complain about how they are being ignored by other artists as well but that didn't happened because other artist aren't dirty minded story teller, they are proffesional not like Nj. It's only Nj who are paranoid & delus1onals. The fact that they brought that case on national assembly is so 😂😂😂.
I've read a similar comment by a Knetizen in the comment section of a video addressing the parents demanding a photo of that manager. I can't wait for NJ and anything related to them to become a vaguely remembered footnote in K-Pop history.
As a Korean-American, I agree. Those NJ parents going batshit crazy over their kids facing any type of hardship in the industry gives me that type of vibe. Their unhinged behavior is also starting to make me think the NJ girls HAVE been spoiled/entitled, which is...not great.
When dealing with criminals who often lie and manipulate, there is one thing to remember: IF A STORY CONTINUES TO CHANGE it is a lie. The bullying theme is consisted because it grievance is a legal requirement to break contract without paying the $400 millions penalties. But the target kept moving. Whenever they can’t find proof they move the target. From the chairman of HYBE, to manager, to security guard, to ILLIT, whoever whatever as long as they can get to what they want. Disgusting.
@@HailToTheMeep i still think the dirty dark side of corruption is now becoming visuable on the surface, and the players in this. That means the backlash will be on SK if they loose. The lawmakers showing their face of no neutral intent and giving false statements - copy page- just saying anything for clickbaits as their media. Will it be justice that rules or injustice as justice because of their mediaplay. International it has become already a joke in a way how far the can go with their manipulation. Even KBS gives airtime to somebody who has betrayed a compagny. Not once multiple times. The hype of SK will be over by all this. BTS stays but SK is falling globally in a disgrace. That means their economic will gonna fall. The way they are doing it now is like the 60-80 period of SK. In the end only SK will loose. Assembly bullying Kids? What does that say over SK and welcome perputrators. The beauty BTS showed the world versus the dark side NJ and Team shows is globally seen. Especially what they have done to Suga, versus the r@pist Taeil NCT SM says enough. Hybe if possible should totally move out of the country. So they have no income from them aswell. ( sorry workers while working so hard these days) So they have their own big 3 to depend on. Samsung is not going good, Kakao gets worse, SM not even mentionable with their scandals but pride of SK?, their controversy and bully and hate culture is what people in the end will remember.
I've said this before, just let MHJ, the parents, and the members keep opening their mouths and running to the news. They can just incriminate and discredit themselves each time they open that little mouth of theirs. So, by all means ladies, keep going. Dig yourself a deeper and deeper pit
Politicians should have common sense to know the difference between ignore n bullying . The childishness of feeling hurt because of being ignored is ridiculous.
I think the parents are not involved because they want “justice” for their children, but because they’ve been promised some financial gain. We’ve fallen into a pit of narcissists!
They have adopted MHJ's contempt for the multi label concept that they agreed to, in order to enrich themselves quickly. They have become Lone Wolves willing to eliminate all perceived competition using any means they can.
At this point I wouldn't blame the companies after this 😢...they might even take in less foreigners if it gets too bad...SM, JYP and YG learning from the sidelines
@@svkuch1974SM not taking any notes cuz it's the SM backing of MHJ that has got her this far. She was a plant by SM into hybe. It's clear from how the shaman talks about SM in their chats. She said that MHJ should not fail like SM did while trying to destroy BTS. SM planted MHJ into hybe so that MHJ could destroy hybe and BTS
@@svkuch1974 Vietnamese, Australian maybe but not Japanese for sure there's many japanese kpop idols but i haven't heard(as far as i know) anyone problematic or arrogant either with members or their company.
At this point MHJ, NWJ, and their families are the real bullies for exposing everyone in the K-pop space to their toxic behavior and entitled perspectives. Hats off to you sir for keeping your sanity despite having to be exposed to all this negative data. Hearing about their shenanigans really tires me out, but not knowing what's going is now even more scary to me, guess I'll have to keep watching your videos heh heh. Keep up the good work!
NJ deserves to be completely ignored by every other girl group in that company that they’ve publicly accused of wrongdoing and bullying! At this point, the shame and embarrassment is on the Korean gp if they don’t see that the only bullies here are NJ and MHJ! This whole ‘drama’ over Hanni being ‘snubbed’ is nothing more than a distraction to MHJ’s criminal and narcissistic behaviour. Hybe needs to deal with MHJ and her criminality and SHELVE NJ indefinitely. They are ruining themselves.
Not just girl group. Boy group as well. I feel like, every one, artists, trainees and staffs are trying to avoid them. If they have to encounter them, they probably just smile, greet, then just keep silent. Cuz at this point, if they say anything, it will use to against them. If they don't say anything, they will claim to be ignoring them. I think all the artists will start using the common lift instead of the special artist lift.
@@ky_sharkB True; they attacked BTS too…indirectly through MHJ. It’s a wonder if ANYONE would want to touch them with a ten foot pole! They want as far away from them as possible; I’d be so pi$$ed off with them if it were me. Of course, they conveniently leave out the fact that their fandom has been vile to Illit (and Le Serrafim too?).
True. Poor Le Sserafim and Illit girls, they are suffering from hate trains because of that entitled, ungrateful, playing-victim and rude girl group and their CEO mama. And poor BTS, they have been dragged and accused (chart manipulation, cvlt, sasaegi and more) because of that disgusting, manipulative and evil CEO.
True. Poor Le Sserafim and Illit girls, they are suffering from hate trains because of that entitled, ungrateful, playing-victim and rude girl group and their CEO mama. And poor BTS, they have been dragged and accused (chart manipulation, cvlt, sasaegi and more) because of that disgusting, manipulative and evil CEO NJ mama.
True. Poor Le Sserafim and Illit girls, they are suffering from hate trains because of that entitled, ungrateful, playing-victim and rude girl group and their CEO mama. And poor BTS, they have been dragged and accused (chart manipulation, cvlt, sasaegi and more) because of the disgusting, manipulative and evil CEO NJ mama.
11:15 To me, the bullies are the parents and NewJeans. And shame on the National Assembly using one sided complain and taking action. Also, the National Assembly saying they are defending young idols, but then showing a compilation, edited video of Illit choreography and bring up plagiarism is just disgusting, who are they protecting? the NewJeans girls or young idols? Illit are younger than NewJeans.
They are encouraging bullying and its not like NewJeans didn't steal all their choreography from others in the first place...why didn't they show the clips of NewJeans stealing choreography and music?
In Korea, they're just ready to do anything if they're paid. So how can anybody expect to get REAL JUSTICE. They're definitely paid by MHJ or the NJ & so ignoring the other facts completely & being baised
I like New Jeans, but the parents lashing out for a second time has completely turned me off. It's starting to reflect really badly on the girls themselves because it's showing how truly coddled they've been. It even has me retroactively seeing their abrupt livestream as them having an entitled tantrum, not naive victims asking for answers.
If MHJ, NJ & their parents are so dissatisfied with Hybe, feel free to buy out your contract & take a hike. Nobody wants or needs your toxic whinging & whining. You are causing harm to your own & Korea's reputation. You should be prosecuted for bringing Korea's reputation into disrepute.
Korea certainly does not need this to discredit itself. What about the congressman who summoned Hanni to testify before the national assembly as a foreign worker who was bullied at work? As I read, they are willing to do anything if you give them some money. Someone should throw a nickel in front of this congressman's seat. (Not that the others are clean.)
Where is the backlash to the rudeness New Jeans displayed during their live video recently demanding Min Hee Jin’s return. The parents should be ashamed their daughters spoke with no respect!
I’ve never seen these girls perform but I find it very hard to believe that they are that good that any company would want to pay millions in exit fees for them. Their reputation is ruined and they seem to be more trouble than they are worth.
Yeah ofc,,what they achieved can't be said that was for their hard work only coz MHJ was the reason for that. She used unfair means to get those positions for those girls. And in HYBE there's so many other groups who are trying desperately to make some record and they're definitely way more deserving than them i think but those won't understand that as they got everything automatically
They are extremely average performers with zero charishma and stage presence, there are loads of better idols than them in the industry, they only got famous because of their catchy songs.
They were awarded Artist of the Year in 2023. Someone probably Lee Soo-man would take them & MHJ. I'm not defending NJ, just stating the unfortunate reality that someone would be greedy enough to sign them.
@@bulletproofajimae391Lee would not want to pay hundreds of millions to take these declining Lone Wolves on. His real goal is to motivate MHJ to think that he would pair with her to take Ador and most importantly, to use her to undermine Hybe, thereby eliminating his competition. NJ sales, streams & productivity have declined this last 2 quarters, directly due to NJ's Svengali-like attachment to MHJ. We Internationals will not forget. True success depends upon fans outside of So Korea, which has mercilessly declined. Let's see how dedicated a partner Lee and MHJ are to each other in the long run. Something tells me that he may be even even more of a Lone Wolf than she...but more seasoned, more perceptive and more cunning. I believe that MHJ tried something similar at SM in the past but NDAs and newer plots and plans are being acted out now within Hybe. Review the Shaman K talk convos that insinuate this. Or maybe I'm writing my own version of Red Swan in my mind.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER I actually think MHJ's plan is to reunite them under another label with a slightly changed name. As for the songs, I doubt they will be a huge hit, they are just ordinary girls with no talent above the average Korean gg. It all depends on what their branding power will be.
Hanni's not the victim here. Hanni will be fine with her $5M and Gucci and One Hannam. That poor manager though, what's gonna happen to them? They need this job to eat and pay bills like the rest of us. If they did say anything (and there's zero proof this happened BTW except miss hanni's vague memory) to protect the illit member, that was THEIR first duty, not miss hanni's feelings. That's the person who's being dragged here. That's the person miss hanni and her clique and their moms and their scary mhj and team bernies and the national assembly are TARGETING. Does that seem fair to anyone at all???? Shame on hanni, the mothers, new jeans.
Just Imagine, Jk was younger yet on national television they bullied him,ignored him,humiliated hima yet when he got famous he went there, behaved like a gentleman. Never complained( though he had all the rights to) and there's a brat acting victim cause a manager told other girls to ignore her inside their own building 😂😂😂😂😂
I agree with you. Even if it happened, the manager just do her job to protect the group, undertandably considering after what MHJ accuse them of & dragged them to the mess.
Not saying hi is different to “ignore her”. Are you a minor that has never worked in an office environment before? If that happened to my kid, I would teach her to stick up for herself rather than suck it up and say nothing and allowing the bullying to worsen. Good luck to you and your future kids against bullies.
@amyw1715 too bold of you to assume AMY. Sounds like you have just copied and pasted your argument from your fandom, who is screaming the same damn thing. Calling a company a bully but supporting a bigger bully looks like stirring a pot to get the attention away from the main issue that their mother just tried to steal from the company. Good luck to your future kids if this is the kind of logic their parent is going to have.
It didn't work out for them accusing Bang PD first, so now this. Dude, if you raised your child to be so delicate and sensitive she can't take not being acknowledged in the building for a hello, wtf are you even doing in the entertainment industry????? And the assembly thing, who did MHJ bribe there?? How on earth do you oversee a tragedy like the 23 workers that died over this kind of BS??? Put them in with KBS for being so sold... how disgraceful...
The worst problem in South Korea right now is not bullying. It's the weaponization of bullying to harm the image of other people or gain the upper hand on other issues. This is only the last case of missuse among all those we've seen in the last years since careers began to get ruined by false or malicious accusations.
I'm astonished by how their government operates. Hanni's allegations of bullying is now being addressed in the National Assembly, yet, shockingly, such severe bullying cases faced by some Korean citizens weren't being acknowledged in these discussions. Additionally, I can't fathom why the parents of these girls aren't taking action to help them navigate these challenges. This makes me wonder if Hanni's actions are part of a strategy to exit their contract with HYBE without paying the fee?
Don't wonder. It's all part of their plan. But what I wonder about. Their first option is leaving Hybe without paying money. Their second option is never too leave Hybe because there's the money and profitable contracts. When option one fails, how will their narrative be. There are some signs. Hope that Hybe never go for option two. Too much damage and hurt already done.
Teens in Korea get beaten up, sometimes even tortued, leading to suicide(or murder) at school... and nobody bats an eye! But Hanni didnt get greeted than one time! How could that ever happen! Defo a case worth for national assembly! 🙄
Go back to the kakao chat between mhj and former Ador's VP that was exposed by TV Daily months ago. You wil see that this "no greeting" is part of the plan. Looks like, everything that has happened since her 1st PC a few months ago, is part of the plan. How did mhj manage to make us forget about the notes (on the steps to be made in order to leave HYBE or to take over HYBE) made by that ex-VP?
Typical bullies playing the victim card to manipulate, and it's not even a good card to play. Pretending to have been hurt or harmed by some petty non-incident that may, or more probable may not, have happened while NJs were under Min Hee Jin's watch, no less. It actually goes to show their sense of spoilage and entitlement more than it does any kind of bullying. Their parents reek of greed and it all reeks of desperation. How dare the National Assembly entertain this kind of nonsense,. One has to wonder what is really going on there? Meanwhile you've hit the nails right on their pretty little heads here, Sean. It does appear MHJ is doing everything she can to distract from her incompetence, her impending legal issues, her missing Shaman, her missing morals and ethics, and last but not least, her missing laptop.
It is amazing to me that the case of not saying hello is thst big of a deal in S Korea with NJ and HYBE. Like it is so surreal to me. Not to mention your story about your boss and that intern. That culture is so flawed.
To the rest of the world, that Korean government is looking real petty, unprofessional and ridiculous that they would waste their time and hold a hearing over a spoiled idol whining that she was snubbed by another idol from a girl group - a group who has had hellfire rained down on THEM from NJ, MHJ and their equally ridiculous fandom. Does that government not have anything important to worry about????
They do, but they are ignoring it in favor of New Jeans and its really not sitting well with every day working people. Especially the families of the workers who died in a fire due to unsafe work conditions. It is so insulting to give what Hanni went through, more attention and more respect, then families of people who died. What example is that setting? On top of that. NO ONE in that building is doing any of their own homework. Not even calling HYBE to see if what Hanni is saying is even true! Are these government workers so stupid to think people don't lie? I am so disgusted by these supposed adults not doing their freaking jobs. What the hell is wrong with that freaking country? They look like a laughing stock to the world with how corrupt and lazy they constantly are. The Ferry, the Mall collapses. Halloween event. All they do is ignore their own people and don't care when wrong things happen to them. Even death. They only love attention and fame and that means latching onto lying little 20 year olds who are going to bring them nothing but hell when the truth finally all comes out.
@@GrumpyKay I agree 💯. And not to mention BTS held a FREE concert to help the government in some bid to host a hige athletic event in 2030 (?). They had to pay for everything, right down to the security. How disgusting they are for allowing this entire mess become a circus! That woman needs to be indicted, convicted and sent to prison. NJ needs to be shelved for a few months and their parents should be publicly reprimanded for THEIR behaviour. I lost all respect for NJ. I don’t care if they never perform again. If hope to hell they are not allowed to break their contract without paying the penalty; and I hope if they leave, they stripped of their brand.
I am not surprised at all these girls are acting the way they are, it's because their mothers are acting this way and they are being lead by this woman named mhj. I just hope Hybe continue to activate their good talents and artists and perform different activities that will drown the negativity being spread by this mhj. Please do not allow this woman destroy the excellent talents of Hybe. Go Katseye, Illit, Le Serafim and everbody not named nj, soar high!!!
Just think that one greedy woman orchestrated this whole mess and she's not going to stop until she gets what she wants. I'm still at a loss as to why her laptop hasn't been handed in. Only reason is because she has a lot to hide - it's obvious as daylight. GUILTY!!! Master Manipulator!!
From an international perspective, this all looks absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe MHJ, the NJ girls, and their parents are getting away with being such horrible bullies to ILLIT and other Hybe staff. How is it that nobody can do anything to curb their abuse? It's infuriating to witness.
The bullies are crying that they are being bullied… and using the weakest excuse ever. “Just ignore her” is not bullying. It’s saying don’t pick a fight. Are the NJ members and parents so delusional that they think they can throw so much shade at Illit and other girls groups and those groups would want to chat it up with them?! “Ignore her” is the nicest thing the manager could have said (if indeed it was even said). It’s just saying not to engage with the NJ members even though they have been bullying you.
I don’t understand why it’s belift’s responsibility to find the incriminating incident. If MHJ and NJ are claiming it happened, why didn’t they dig through a month’s worth of videos to find it? Why put it on belift to look for it, then get upset b/c they didn’t find it?
@@amyw1715 ador is a label under hybe just like belift and they all share the building. So why didn’t ador ask for all of the footage to support their claim earlier, before the 30 day retention policy expired?
Yes. I want to know Why no one is talking about the laptop, the leaked agreement, MHJ insulting her own girl group, MHJ covering up sexual harassment etc etc.
SK is just a mess. Why Hybe doesn’t just bankrupt Ador! Is beyond me. No funds no contract nothing. Those parents are the issue! Status grabbing parents who are just after money money. Time to take measure to protect the main entity. Time to “embarrass” the parents publically.
I'm Korean and we're controlled by the media. Hybe is a startup company and has been under countless attacks since BTS' debut. Can't beat the power of Kakao right now. MHJ is astonished that it has taken root in politics as well. Her commentary unit is systematically covering up the mouths of the general public of SK.
@@ENHA_illiesI appreciate your 1st hand observations. Please, continue to enlighten us. As an international fan from US, I find this entire mess unfathomable.
Hani is not good at Korean. She made errors in Korean twice, even in her message that she would go to the National Assembly. But did she get what the manager said correctly? It's just that they are using every means to get out of Hybe without paying..
I really hope you're right. I keep waiting for the tides to turn against Min Hee Jin and the parents. Hanni is testify on music industry bullying? Since when is saying "ignore her" bullying? This is getting more ridiculous. I fear that MHJ is going to come out a winner. She's evil and nothing seems to stick to her.
It just makes me sad because I feel like she got invited to testify cause she's considered high profile. Like where are the Omega X members or even LSF/Illit for experiencing all of this cyber bullying? Since they invited her to testify, that decreases the committee's credibility as well....
Especially with the context. There's a BeLift case over Min Heejin's treatment of Illit. It's actually recommended that people avoid each other in cases like theirs to avoid more accusations.
People act like because NJ are victims of Min that they themselves can do no wrong despite being bullies themselves who enjoy hinging behind the infantilization inflicted upon them by fans. Being a victim of someone doesn’t mean you cant victimize others. NJ members could’ve said something to defend the other groups and chose not to, and it’s not because they don’t know what’s happening because they do check social media. Those they victimized have every right not to interact with them if they so chose not to.
i used to like these girls when they debuted. but now... i just cant. i stopped watching them even before all these MHJ issue came out..i think it was when Cookie came out. and then i watched one of their Live performance. its underwhelming. for me anyways. and then these issues..one after the other...their impromptu live was the last straw.
It's hypocritical that Min Hee Jin's Kakao talk bullying messages are not taken seriously but this "ignoring" at the office by a team you and Mom are attacking is taken to the national assembly, Pity!
The thing is the real australian citizens are being affected by these immigrants.No offense but mostly of australians trouble makers are the immigrants.Clashes of cultures needs a lot of struggles on how you adapt it(foreign)how you maintain (native) and how you remain equal(both).Like in the case of Danielle and Hanni,The parenting styles influenced a lot.We accept it or not for others,there is some kind of superiority and entitlement as if it was applicable in all of the countries that they will go.
Because you'd know, you're an insider with ALL the facts, yeah? You listen to this peddler of gossip and take it as actual fact. Truth is we have all seen only a glimpse of the real truth. Wake up and grow up.
As always thank you Sean for an in depth review of this crazy situation. MHJ, NJ, and NJ's parents need to all just leave. I'm so sick of all the drama that THEY themselves are causing. Gawd... Just STOP MHJ, NJ and NJ's parents. Y'all's crazy is really showing.
Yes! Tell Hybe to let them go instead of making minors and their families pay 300 billion won in compensation to break contract. Hybe was the one that started this mess and made it public, but they are trying to hang onto them, it’s sickening.
These parents are not looking loving and caring. They are creating the problem. They are just adding another nail to the coffin. This is the daughters' careers they are messing up, and let's be real, their future paycheck. No other company will want to work with them because they don't want to bring that mess into their walls. Love Hybe just sitting back quietly and watching the downward spiral.
People should see this coming, MHJ turns her vs HYBE into NJ vs HYBE, and ILLIT comeback is around the corner and look at the hate and bullying they got, it's unfair.
they already ignore real issues and serious bullying, they're now going to use her case as an example of idols and such lying and/or exaggerating which in turn does nothing but hurt more victims in the future
Let’s see how long NJ lasts in the industry. The consumers will have the last word when all said and done. We are so done…at least I am. I would not support anything they do from those spoiled brats.
This matter is definitely a non issue that should have been discussed and settled internally in the company. The girls who are now adults are certainly acting so entitled and it reflect clearly what kind of mindset they have. Very similar to their parents and MHJ who is a narcissist and psychopath. What a shame!
I'm so exhausted by the ongoing chaos surrounding NJ and MHJ. At this point, I genuinely believe that ever since Min Hee-jin started working for SM, she has been trying to orchestrate the downfall of HYBE and BigHit Music after the downfall of SM. I recall a few years back when SM and BigHit had some disagreements. What makes this situation even worse is that MHJ seems to have influenced some parents to support this agenda, and now young girls in NJ are following their example. They're even making false accusations about being bullied at HYBE. If anyone should be looked at for bullying, it’s Min Hee-jin.
Imagine having the gull, the gumption, the chops, THE MOXY to be parents of idols in this situation, screaming about justice for your girls....while you BLATANTLY ignored all the other ALLEGED mistreatment that YOUR CHILDREN HAVE BEEN FACING SINCE THE BEGINNING. People saying we shouldn't call NJ parents what THEY HAVE BEEN ACTING LIKE, money hungry and delusional, can miss me with all that "their naive" nonsense tell that to Britney Spears parents. I'm sorry but the hate, the ridicule, THE STRAIGHT disrespect that your children's manager not only OPENLY INCOURAGED, but CONTINUES TO FUEL towards EVERY other group??? Unmatched, and all completely one sided. Absolutely not you're completely right how NJs are acting ISN'T just a product of MHJ *(after all we have to look at it from the way of hmm maybe the reason she was able to really GET IN with the parents is because THEY THE SAME TYPE)* 😐, but hey let's completely ignore all of the shady behavior from their whole end and scream "Hybe Bad, BElift worse"😂
Hanni raising the bar of bullying so high. "Ignore her" Even the minority party in assembly wanted some attention by siding with her but he sucked-up by accusing Illit as the bullies.Misinformations seems to be rampant in the national assembly poor koreans,their taxes just goes to waste because the foreign worker got some tantrums.
I just watched Omega X press conference after Hanni's hearing. The face of the real victims are totally different. Those guys were severely bullied, but their case wasn't investigated like this.
I have mentioned the OMEGA X incident which is based on facts, on several different forums!!! HYBE needs to resolve this by looking at the contract with New Jeans and finding the clauses where the group has damaged the company's reputation. Then terminate the contract and recoup any financial losses they have incurred.
Someone should totally ask the parents why it’s okay for MHJ to talk bad about their Hildrew, but not okay for a manager to tell his wards to ignore! They need to be confronted with some uncomfortable and inconvenient truths!
I am waiting for that 1 person who will expose all the conversations these people are involved in and we will finally get MHJ and the people responsible for this with accountability. This is going crazy, this is not right and there are far more important matter than this. This is pure stupidity and GREED. I hate these kind of people.
I truly hope this is their last show of arrogance and pettiness. The tides truly have to turn now, I hope in the hearing today that common sense prevails. P.S. “No one wants to be the last fool in the room” the wise words of @SeouliteTV
Yeahhhhh, let's be real. That ain't gonna happen 🤣. I'm just curious which one will be next, MHJ, the parents again, or the members again, or maybe another surprise figure will enter the mix.
Well, at the end of this month, in 3 LONG weeks, MHJ will be gone from Ador and Hybe!!!! Sure, she can work in the background, but her actual voice in real time at the workplace is null and void!!!! If NJ brings her in anyway, could they be in breach of their contract?
The best weapon humanity has against lunatics, narcissists, and brats, is indifference. For these kinds of people, any attention is good attention, shouting the loudest makes things you say become true, etc. Ignoring/being indifferent to them is the one thing that really, reeeaaaally harms their mental state. They cannot cope with it. They don't understand it, and they don't know how to handle it (as demonstrated by NJ's themselves! Someone's indifference led to this mess, folks 😂), and it's hilarious to watch the progression... The minute you are indifferent too/you ignore them, the wheels start turning as their faces turn to confusion, you can see the cogs whirring in their brains as they panic-search for an explanation/solution where there is none, they generally then try and throw out some wild accusations because they're a victim of something stupid (victim card, activate! 👊🏼😎😂), then they tend to have a tantrum because it's their go to move when things don't go their way, and when that still fails, they've no option left but to eventually tuck tail and leave 🤷🏼♀️😂
I agree with everything you wrote except the last part. Narcissists are incapable of tucking tail and running because in their minds they must always come out as the winner. Instead, they will seek vengeance at all costs (and I believe MHJ has a powerful backer).
@@sharonlahaye5803 I lumped a broad range of people into one general behaviour progression, there are always some super delusionals that will never walk away, but not everyone is a MHJ. For a lot, they would rather start the cycle again somewhere else to get the attention etc they crave. My ex took a long time to get the message after I left him, but after 7 years of indifference to him turning up on my doorstep shouting abuse, making threats, tantrums etc, he had no choice but to finally understand I am gone, I had been gone for 7 years... 🤦🏼♀️ I've now had almost 3 years of peace and quiet again! 😁😂
Watch this girl Hanni crumble under scrutiny as lawmakers will ask tough questions..These poor lawmakers will be so embarrassed by her lies it’s will be a car crash
And now supposedly there's a former SK judge on their side, manipulating the sk legal system as SM has been doing since their beginning. So many things that are beautiful and good about sk! But not this, not NJ, MHJ, or any of their minions. They are a stain
As a NZ BTS Army and K Drama lover .I understood the seriousness of a contract when the actor Lee Sun-Kyun sadly took his life , he literally had no choice . That doesn't make the contract right but it's an absolutely the sad truth . The K Drama Doona with Bae Suzy is based around the power of money in a contract and the difficulties of getting out of the contract . So it's so surprising the Korean parents are involved . Sometimes I feel there is someone else behind this ...like another 'big co.' ? My daughters best friend is Korean, meaning born and bred in Korea , she has said the lack of 'respect' is shocking ....but she also says that there is a 'new wave of 'women rights'...which is great but MHJ is using this to her advantage so HYBE are having to be very careful . Which they seem to be doing their best navigating this never-ending drama .
Yes, Kakao's Chinese parent company is her non-Korean investor, as is SM!!!!! Remember, SM and Kakao are caught up in a criminal conspiracy of stock manipulation with last year's Hybe bid to buyout SM!!!!!!! So yeah, MHJ has locked arms with Hybe haters wanting to take over Hybe and BTS!!!!!
@@nataliacoggins6769 right well there u go so stressful. I wonder if ‘they ‘ understand that Korea is airing its ‘dirty laundry’ … presumably they don’t care and that explains why MHJ is so dam confident. BTS have been so good at promoting Korea it’s a shame . Can’t wait for Hobi at least , Jin goes traveling looking a little overwhelmed but trying his best .
I would tell my kids to do the same thing and ignore the problem girls. They are self entitled by their parents and crazy lady. If I were illit parents I would sue the girls and their parents not the company for defamation of character. I would avoid the problem girls. Is like being forced to be nice to the drama they cause. It's mind blowing.
Thank you so much..I think the parents and NJ are so far into this. That they can not tell what is truth or not.. With all this going on, I would think HYBE has the right to cancel NJ contract. No money...And NJ not coming to HYBE for any work, that there would be a bye-bye. NJ parents should have stayed out of this at the beginning. If anyone is betrayed here, it is HYBE, the one who trusted these people. Gave NJ a chance of a lifetime. If NJ is wanting money and a life style like BTS, then they have to REALLY WORK FOR IT... And for some reason NJ stays at HYBE, then NJ needs to relearned from the start. Do the beginning like BTS...
Why would any good parent let their kid live in a "cockroach infested" or terrible dorm. The problem with the parents is not how nj is treated but now they are not getting as much money, and probably a very shaky future in the industry.
Don't you rather prefer to be ignored? Like bullies do not even need a reason to notice you, so how is ignoring now qualify as bullying? Far as I know, bullies are the ones who WANT ATTENTION, right?
At this point it is just a HUGE embarrassment to NJ, their parents, MHJ, the Korean media, public and government. Seriously? Over smt as trivial as a hello/goodbye? I definitely believe this was strategically constructed for a hidden agenda MHJ has.
Why js Ador allowing these people to do what they want - working offsite???? Why is Hybe allowing this? Where the hell is Bang Sihyuk and why is he putting up with THAT?! Don’t tell me Hybe/Ador are financing this remote location the girls are working at? Are they still living up in their castle? How is a huge conglomerate that has access to top tier lawyers and a lot of money, not tying this woman up in Court and pushing forward these criminal accusations? Why does it take the Police and prosecutor so long to bring a finding of indictment or otherwise, against that woman?? How does ONE woman manage to control everything that’s going on! From an international (western) perspective, this whole thing is so outrageous and would be unheard of or simply not tolerated in our legal systems. It’s insanity!
I think that hybe/ador aren't striking back just yet to a) let mhj run her mouth and get herself into trouble or b) hybe not causing any 'harm' to them so it looks good in court. An example of this is when ador offered mhj a compromise with becoming the producer of nwjns for the next 5 years instead of the position of ceo in order to prove they(ador) had made sufficient attempts to resolve the conflict, this in turn can be used as evidence in court.
If Adore moved off site, it could be the key to violation of contract. Perhaps Min failing to educate NJ and parent ( ie not getting permission to attend general assembly, speaking to a media outlet, etc) This story needs to be a KS drama staring Lee Min Ho as CEO of Hybe, Joon Woo Sung as Judge, Jae Woo as Prosecutor and NJ to star as themselves in video snips. Te He😂
There are other forces behind this. BSH is doing what is good to protect everybody. Because they are a conglomerate. They can not act like the other party to distract and deceive.
@@elizabethbesco4758 Ador didn’t move off site (to practice) the girls and the staff supporting them did. That staff should be fired and those girls should be told to come back under Hybe’s roof! Who do they think they are - at 2 years (rookies) - calling the shots to practice elsewhere?! The entitled attitudes really angers me! Hybe needs to ‘shelve’ them for awhile.
@@mo-music9077 Not distract and deceive - use the court system to the best they can to get her into court to face the criminal allegations asap. It’s unacceptable for the police to not have done anything as of yet, though Hybe submitted the evidence to them. Her and NJ’s bull💩has gone on far too long.
28:05 If they have a place outside of HYBE and working there, then that's a 100% bridge of trust, in which HYBE can use it against Min Hee Jin and the girls. Will they really do that?
You know whom would really get nj’s parents to shut up illit parents should release a statement about the bullying that new jeans members keep trying to expose their (illit’s) children and the fact that it’s coming from grown as adults who have children.. New Jeans parents should be completely ashamed and embarrassed of themselves
Sadly I think what would work best for public opinion, isn't something HYBE wants to do. And thats illit and their parents finally speaking out about the bullying they are going through because of New Jeans, MHJ and their parents. But HYBE is trying very very hard to keep the groups out of the mess because it was never about them. Its always been about MHJ getting caught doing crimes. So, sadly, and smartly, the groups will stay out of it. What sucks is taking the high road and being mature is leaving the door open for them getting accused by the actually bullies, of so many things that they didn't do. That shows you who the real bullies are. I cant wait for the Assembly to be so embarrassed when they realized they invited the actual real bully, to speak about anti-bulling.
@@GrumpyKay Fr. It’s just funny cause even after MHJ name dropped a bunch of names in her first press conference, then hybe comes out with a statement saying don’t bring groups into this. Then when belift releases evidence against their groundless rumors, they are accused of sabotaging illit. It just blows my mind how much fans want to push the narrative they desire
love ur channel,Your channel is the only place i trust to give correct news and actual and truthful situation of Nwjns ,their parents and mhj,pls continue with ur good work of speaking truth with actual facts,which their fans are trying to cover up with their fake and obvious lies that theyre too dumb to see the truth😂😂😊❤
HYBE BOY and K-Pop Shock also give reliable info, although K-Pop Shock (Journalist Kim) doesn't go into deep-dives like this in his routine posts, only in his livestreams. Which are in Korean.
Same. They're literally mean girls who love playing-victim. I'm not a fan of other groups but they're okay for me. But NJ gave me mean girls vibes. When they debuted, I had a feeling that they would cause trouble, problems and drama and now I was right.
I feel more sorry for illit and the parents of the members. I also feel bad that this has to happened during the comeback. Like they had so much hate during debut and now the comeback. Its unfair for them to be brought into this mess again.
That society is so toxic, corrupt and I feel so sorry for all the good innocent people who have lost their lives and also those who are still living, breathing and struggling to survive. Life is truly hard and I know there isn't one country that is perfect but this, this is just too much in my opinion.
Yes, yes!! Minute 20:50 🔥 ALL the other fandoms under Hybe must come together. Because it is an issue that is affecting not only BTS but also, Seventeen, TXT, BoysNextDoor, LeSserafim, ILlit, Enhypen. Show support by streaming and buying only from official sites.
I'm ARMY but I joined ILLIT's reverse to send then a supportive fan letter. I just feel awful for them. I will be buying their album (I enjoyed their debut album! All the songs were great and I usually don't care for girl groups)
I find it funny that she's complaining about not saying hello, if you look at the run BTS episodes, there is one in which V says the same thing to bang PD. The level of feeling self-important is out of control with these people. I truly hope Hype protects these girls and hopefully we'll get them treated for the brainwashing they've received.
The more I hear the more I think that she was the instigator, the staff for the other group felt that the best way to protect their girls is to say ignore her or maybe just to remove them from this one's presence. She's the senior, she's the rich one, she's a more established artist, she's protected because of the whole drama. Reported right after the footage should have been deleted (as per privacy law) making disproving impossible. It was planned, to give them something to complain about to the public/press. The whole think has mhj manipulation stamped all over it. I was concerned for the girls but I think they've learned how to be a toxic with questionable ethics from the master and my concern is misplaced. Hybe may be stuck with them. Maybe time for hiatus, move them to a different building, and then no access by any ador employee to the hybe building or resources or artists- can't "bully" them if they are in another location. They are ador employees, its a total loss, don't allow any more debuts from this company. Wait for the contract to expire, then close ador down, the nj and mhj can be famous for the destruction of a company and jobs. As for the parents, less than ideal , and possibly not capable of seeing how this is going to harm their kids long term. Who's going to want to work with someone who'll bring the entire Korean press to any workplace in the worst way possible.
I don't if I am wrong or right, but weverse was originally going to be for TXT like Vlive was for BTS, but they developed the app more and transferred all the group into the app.
I mean, technically, if the you come across the people that are causing so much issues for you and others, wouldn't you technically want to ignore them anyway?
You had great points. I, for one, think no one speaks up for that poor elevator. I think we should send funeral reefs in protest of the elevator. 😅 All kidding aside, great segment, and always appreciate your candor.
Korea is so upside down. What's right is wrong and what's wrong is right. The longer this goes on, I'm not as optimistic as Sean even though I agree 100% with this video. I'm worried somehow MHJ, New Jeans and their parents will come out on top. There's too much corruption going on.
I'm glad the parents are out there sticking up for their kids, but where were they when they were singing that nasty cookie song when they were underage where was the level of concern then. This is a fight between mhj and hybe she decided to bring new jeans and other groups in to use them as shields. And by the way, your manager is talking shit about the other groups, and then you expect them to say hello to you when you pass them girl. Bye, I would never say anything. Just keep on walking.
NJ's parents are okay with MHJ calling their daughters "pig / fat / brainless" (which are clearly printed) but got mad about an alleged "ignore her" remark which MAY or MAY NOT happen. Really weird parents.
reminds me of the saying that bad publicity is still good publicity, and that the worst thing is not being talked about at all. maybe in their heads it doesn't matter how openly rude or strict mhj is to the girls, as long as they remain the center of attention and people talk. its worse to not be acknowledged at all. creepy and destructive as hell of them indeed.
There are parents out there more interested in the paycheck than their children's welfare. And in this case, these parents are going after the only source of funding since MHJ doesn't have it without Hybe and the group is locked into their contract. Unless they get Hybe to pay them, they have no more income from the girls.
Security images are deleted after a while because there won't be enough memory to store images for a very long period. I read that in Korea it is a law that they are deleted within a short period of time for privacy reasons.
MHJ, as always, is diabolically trying to buy time and for everyone to forget the harassment case that the former ADOR employee suffered, and reported to the former CEO and she covered it up. Harassment is a crime and no one says anything anymore.
This is all a plot to harrass Hybe
@@mobr51 and also if the “bullying” happened while MHJ was CEO then she should have handled it especially since NJ is so precious to her. But of course the incident wasn’t reported because it didn’t happen.
“Ignore her” for your own safety. Even if the manager did say it, she was protecting one of her own charges, because of the fear that anything that was said to her would be reported back to Min to use against them. I have a feeling these little madams are probably bullies themselves. These people have over rated self importance, thinking their children should be treated better than they treat others.
Right!!
I bet Nj ignored other artists as well as if they are busy or unaware💀💀. If that's the case, other artists might complain about how they are being ignored by other artists as well but that didn't happened because other artist aren't dirty minded story teller, they are proffesional not like Nj. It's only Nj who are paranoid & delus1onals. The fact that they brought that case on national assembly is so 😂😂😂.
Their parents remind me of the Korean school issue of parents bullying teachers to the point of suicide.
I've read a similar comment by a Knetizen in the comment section of a video addressing the parents demanding a photo of that manager. I can't wait for NJ and anything related to them to become a vaguely remembered footnote in K-Pop history.
That bat crazy
@via45 Yes, I know about that. Teacher are still harassed by people because they can not do anything against bad kids.
As a Korean-American, I agree. Those NJ parents going batshit crazy over their kids facing any type of hardship in the industry gives me that type of vibe. Their unhinged behavior is also starting to make me think the NJ girls HAVE been spoiled/entitled, which is...not great.
same also the glory movie
When dealing with criminals who often lie and manipulate, there is one thing to remember:
IF A STORY CONTINUES TO CHANGE it is a lie.
The bullying theme is consisted because it grievance is a legal requirement to break contract without paying the $400 millions penalties.
But the target kept moving. Whenever they can’t find proof they move the target.
From the chairman of HYBE, to manager, to security guard, to ILLIT, whoever whatever as long as they can get to what they want.
Disgusting.
feels like something they all agree on... maybe thats why they keep pointing their fingers like this
Power abuse in Korea needs to be studied. Because it is truly a special case.
Seriously
A great thesis for a doctorate for sure!
I’d read that thesis, and theses are usually very dry and boring.
@@HailToTheMeep i still think the dirty dark side of corruption is now becoming visuable on the surface, and the players in this. That means the backlash will be on SK if they loose. The lawmakers showing their face of no neutral intent and giving false statements - copy page- just saying anything for clickbaits as their media. Will it be justice that rules or injustice as justice because of their mediaplay. International it has become already a joke in a way how far the can go with their manipulation. Even KBS gives airtime to somebody who has betrayed a compagny. Not once multiple times. The hype of SK will be over by all this.
BTS stays but SK is falling globally in a disgrace. That means their economic will gonna fall. The way they are doing it now is like the 60-80 period of SK. In the end only SK will loose. Assembly bullying Kids? What does that say over SK and welcome perputrators.
The beauty BTS showed the world versus the dark side NJ and Team shows is globally seen. Especially what they have done to Suga, versus the r@pist Taeil NCT SM says enough.
Hybe if possible should totally move out of the country. So they have no income from them aswell. ( sorry workers while working so hard these days) So they have their own big 3 to depend on. Samsung is not going good, Kakao gets worse, SM not even mentionable with their scandals but pride of SK?, their controversy and bully and hate culture is what people in the end will remember.
Not really, it is such a clasic move of autoritarism...
I've said this before, just let MHJ, the parents, and the members keep opening their mouths and running to the news. They can just incriminate and discredit themselves each time they open that little mouth of theirs. So, by all means ladies, keep going. Dig yourself a deeper and deeper pit
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Politicians should have common sense to know the difference between ignore n bullying . The childishness of feeling hurt because of being ignored is ridiculous.
If the politicians also did it. They wouldn't be able to differentiate it.
It’s workplace harassment, that’s why politicians are calling hanni to court
I think the parents are not involved because they want “justice” for their children, but because they’ve been promised some financial gain. We’ve fallen into a pit of narcissists!
They are all in for the greed
They have adopted MHJ's contempt for the multi label concept that they agreed to, in order to enrich themselves quickly. They have become Lone Wolves willing to eliminate all perceived competition using any means they can.
Here we call them a pit of snakes. Or a nest of vipers.
@@belaytriks Yes a very large nest of vipers.
They just don’t want the financial penalty, not the gain! 300 billion won if they break contract early, read the news! What gain!
Idol contracts now gonna have parental clauses lol
At this point I wouldn't blame the companies after this 😢...they might even take in less foreigners if it gets too bad...SM, JYP and YG learning from the sidelines
@@svkuch1974SM not taking any notes cuz it's the SM backing of MHJ that has got her this far. She was a plant by SM into hybe. It's clear from how the shaman talks about SM in their chats. She said that MHJ should not fail like SM did while trying to destroy BTS. SM planted MHJ into hybe so that MHJ could destroy hybe and BTS
@@svkuch1974 Vietnamese, Australian maybe but not Japanese for sure there's many japanese kpop idols but i haven't heard(as far as i know) anyone problematic or arrogant either with members or their company.
Why bullying everybody else is okay, as long as it’s not them.. 😢
At this point MHJ, NWJ, and their families are the real bullies for exposing everyone in the K-pop space to their toxic behavior and entitled perspectives. Hats off to you sir for keeping your sanity despite having to be exposed to all this negative data. Hearing about their shenanigans really tires me out, but not knowing what's going is now even more scary to me, guess I'll have to keep watching your videos heh heh. Keep up the good work!
This whole bit is absolutely unserious. “They ignored me!” does NOT equate to workplace harassment.
NJ deserves to be completely ignored by every other girl group in that company that they’ve publicly accused of wrongdoing and bullying! At this point, the shame and embarrassment is on the Korean gp if they don’t see that the only bullies here are NJ and MHJ!
This whole ‘drama’ over Hanni being ‘snubbed’ is nothing more than a distraction to MHJ’s criminal and narcissistic behaviour.
Hybe needs to deal with MHJ and her criminality and SHELVE NJ indefinitely. They are ruining themselves.
Not just girl group. Boy group as well. I feel like, every one, artists, trainees and staffs are trying to avoid them. If they have to encounter them, they probably just smile, greet, then just keep silent. Cuz at this point, if they say anything, it will use to against them. If they don't say anything, they will claim to be ignoring them.
I think all the artists will start using the common lift instead of the special artist lift.
@@ky_sharkB True; they attacked BTS too…indirectly through MHJ. It’s a wonder if ANYONE would want to touch them with a ten foot pole! They want as far away from them as possible; I’d be so pi$$ed off with them if it were me. Of course, they conveniently leave out the fact that their fandom has been vile to Illit (and Le Serrafim too?).
True. Poor Le Sserafim and Illit girls, they are suffering from hate trains because of that entitled, ungrateful, playing-victim and rude girl group and their CEO mama. And poor BTS, they have been dragged and accused (chart manipulation, cvlt, sasaegi and more) because of that disgusting, manipulative and evil CEO.
True. Poor Le Sserafim and Illit girls, they are suffering from hate trains because of that entitled, ungrateful, playing-victim and rude girl group and their CEO mama. And poor BTS, they have been dragged and accused (chart manipulation, cvlt, sasaegi and more) because of that disgusting, manipulative and evil CEO NJ mama.
True. Poor Le Sserafim and Illit girls, they are suffering from hate trains because of that entitled, ungrateful, playing-victim and rude girl group and their CEO mama. And poor BTS, they have been dragged and accused (chart manipulation, cvlt, sasaegi and more) because of the disgusting, manipulative and evil CEO NJ mama.
11:15
To me, the bullies are the parents and NewJeans.
And shame on the National Assembly using one sided complain and taking action. Also, the National Assembly saying they are defending young idols, but then showing a compilation, edited video of Illit choreography and bring up plagiarism is just disgusting, who are they protecting? the NewJeans girls or young idols? Illit are younger than NewJeans.
I think they probably are tied to MHJ
They are encouraging bullying and its not like NewJeans didn't steal all their choreography from others in the first place...why didn't they show the clips of NewJeans stealing choreography and music?
@@kanohanesame question
In Korea, they're just ready to do anything if they're paid. So how can anybody expect to get REAL JUSTICE. They're definitely paid by MHJ or the NJ & so ignoring the other facts completely & being baised
@@dark-m00n_b-altso true it seems like that
I can’t wait for MHJ and New Jeans to be gone. I don’t feel sorry for those girls anymore.
@@rockyrhodes5964 same. The hate they have towards ILLit is since they became a group.
Amin 🤲🏻
Same!
Hallelujah.
I like New Jeans, but the parents lashing out for a second time has completely turned me off. It's starting to reflect really badly on the girls themselves because it's showing how truly coddled they've been. It even has me retroactively seeing their abrupt livestream as them having an entitled tantrum, not naive victims asking for answers.
If MHJ, NJ & their parents are so dissatisfied with Hybe, feel free to buy out your contract & take a hike.
Nobody wants or needs your toxic whinging & whining. You are causing harm to your own & Korea's reputation. You should be prosecuted for bringing Korea's reputation into disrepute.
Korea certainly does not need this to discredit itself. What about the congressman who summoned Hanni to testify before the national assembly as a foreign worker who was bullied at work? As I read, they are willing to do anything if you give them some money. Someone should throw a nickel in front of this congressman's seat. (Not that the others are clean.)
Where is the backlash to the rudeness New Jeans displayed during their live video recently demanding Min Hee Jin’s return. The parents should be ashamed their daughters spoke with no respect!
Being ashamed is not in their vocabulary nor part of their strategy. They are greedy Lone Wolves targeting a quick payday as promised to them by MHJ.
@@TurboTurd713 weren’t the parents enabling it?
Would you respect people that disrespect you?
@amyw1715 exactly so why expect ILLIT manager members and staff to respect 👖 and thier associates
@@GulItret20 so they should all just be nasty and disrespectful then right?
I’ve never seen these girls perform but I find it very hard to believe that they are that good that any company would want to pay millions in exit fees for them. Their reputation is ruined and they seem to be more trouble than they are worth.
Yeah ofc,,what they achieved can't be said that was for their hard work only coz MHJ was the reason for that. She used unfair means to get those positions for those girls. And in HYBE there's so many other groups who are trying desperately to make some record and they're definitely way more deserving than them i think but those won't understand that as they got everything automatically
They are extremely average performers with zero charishma and stage presence, there are loads of better idols than them in the industry, they only got famous because of their catchy songs.
They were awarded Artist of the Year in 2023. Someone probably Lee Soo-man would take them & MHJ. I'm not defending NJ, just stating the unfortunate reality that someone would be greedy enough to sign them.
@@bulletproofajimae391Lee would not want to pay hundreds of millions to take these declining Lone Wolves on. His real goal is to motivate MHJ to think that he would pair with her to take Ador and most importantly, to use her to undermine Hybe, thereby eliminating his competition. NJ sales, streams & productivity have declined this last 2 quarters, directly due to NJ's Svengali-like attachment to MHJ. We Internationals will not forget. True success depends upon fans outside of So Korea, which has mercilessly declined. Let's see how dedicated a partner Lee and MHJ are to each other in the long run. Something tells me that he may be even even more of a Lone Wolf than she...but more seasoned, more perceptive and more cunning. I believe that MHJ tried something similar at SM in the past but NDAs and newer plots and plans are being acted out now within Hybe. Review the Shaman K talk convos that insinuate this. Or maybe I'm writing my own version of Red Swan in my mind.
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER I actually think MHJ's plan is to reunite them under another label with a slightly changed name. As for the songs, I doubt they will be a huge hit, they are just ordinary girls with no talent above the average Korean gg. It all depends on what their branding power will be.
They are digging a deeper hole for their kids… Feeling too entitled will not bring them back in the saddle!!!!
Hanni's not the victim here. Hanni will be fine with her $5M and Gucci and One Hannam.
That poor manager though, what's gonna happen to them? They need this job to eat and pay bills like the rest of us. If they did say anything (and there's zero proof this happened BTW except miss hanni's vague memory) to protect the illit member, that was THEIR first duty, not miss hanni's feelings.
That's the person who's being dragged here. That's the person miss hanni and her clique and their moms and their scary mhj and team bernies and the national assembly are TARGETING.
Does that seem fair to anyone at all???? Shame on hanni, the mothers, new jeans.
Just Imagine, Jk was younger yet on national television they bullied him,ignored him,humiliated hima yet when he got famous he went there, behaved like a gentleman. Never complained( though he had all the rights to) and there's a brat acting victim cause a manager told other girls to ignore her inside their own building 😂😂😂😂😂
@@cookliet8444 According to the evidence, the incident didn't happen!
I agree with you. Even if it happened, the manager just do her job to protect the group, undertandably considering after what MHJ accuse them of & dragged them to the mess.
@@emilylee9894 no
@@emilylee9894And according to the other 6 persons involved in all this.
Horrible incident: "they didn't say hi to me." Lmao, I want to feel bad for these kids, but oh, they're just being spoiled brats.
They probably have superior complex, they can’t stand their ego being scratched and immediately play victim
Stop feeling bad for them! They're not babies. They are bullies too. Why should they get away with everything
Not saying hi is different to “ignore her”. Are you a minor that has never worked in an office environment before? If that happened to my kid, I would teach her to stick up for herself rather than suck it up and say nothing and allowing the bullying to worsen. Good luck to you and your future kids against bullies.
@amyw1715 too bold of you to assume AMY. Sounds like you have just copied and pasted your argument from your fandom, who is screaming the same damn thing. Calling a company a bully but supporting a bigger bully looks like stirring a pot to get the attention away from the main issue that their mother just tried to steal from the company. Good luck to your future kids if this is the kind of logic their parent is going to have.
@@doughyneedit good luck to your kids who just have to put up with bullying or else be labeled as spoiled brats for speaking up
It didn't work out for them accusing Bang PD first, so now this. Dude, if you raised your child to be so delicate and sensitive she can't take not being acknowledged in the building for a hello, wtf are you even doing in the entertainment industry?????
And the assembly thing, who did MHJ bribe there?? How on earth do you oversee a tragedy like the 23 workers that died over this kind of BS??? Put them in with KBS for being so sold... how disgraceful...
@@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER It's just sickening.
So hard to believe how out of hand this “bully” incident has gotten! Thank you for another good video!
The worst problem in South Korea right now is not bullying. It's the weaponization of bullying to harm the image of other people or gain the upper hand on other issues. This is only the last case of missuse among all those we've seen in the last years since careers began to get ruined by false or malicious accusations.
THIS!!! I hate it so much! It's a spit in the face to people who actually faced mistreatment and bullying and get ignored.
I'm astonished by how their government operates. Hanni's allegations of bullying is now being addressed in the National Assembly, yet, shockingly, such severe bullying cases faced by some Korean citizens weren't being acknowledged in these discussions. Additionally, I can't fathom why the parents of these girls aren't taking action to help them navigate these challenges. This makes me wonder if Hanni's actions are part of a strategy to exit their contract with HYBE without paying the fee?
I feel samething
Don't wonder. It's all part of their plan. But what I wonder about. Their first option is leaving Hybe without paying money. Their second option is never too leave Hybe because there's the money and profitable contracts. When option one fails, how will their narrative be. There are some signs. Hope that Hybe never go for option two. Too much damage and hurt already done.
Teens in Korea get beaten up, sometimes even tortued, leading to suicide(or murder) at school... and nobody bats an eye! But Hanni didnt get greeted than one time! How could that ever happen! Defo a case worth for national assembly! 🙄
@@matiisme after watching Rotten Mango podcast about office harrassments, this seems very petty to be discussed and be brought up in National Assembly
Go back to the kakao chat between mhj and former Ador's VP that was exposed by TV Daily months ago. You wil see that this "no greeting" is part of the plan. Looks like, everything that has happened since her 1st PC a few months ago, is part of the plan.
How did mhj manage to make us forget about the notes (on the steps to be made in order to leave HYBE or to take over HYBE) made by that ex-VP?
They are following their plan but the fans of the groups they are insoulting are defending the group instead of siding whit them.
Typical bullies playing the victim card to manipulate, and it's not even a good card to play. Pretending to have been hurt or harmed by some petty non-incident that may, or more probable may not, have happened while NJs were under Min Hee Jin's watch, no less. It actually goes to show their sense of spoilage and entitlement more than it does any kind of bullying. Their parents reek of greed and it all reeks of desperation. How dare the National Assembly entertain this kind of nonsense,. One has to wonder what is really going on there?
Meanwhile you've hit the nails right on their pretty little heads here, Sean. It does appear MHJ is doing everything she can to distract from her incompetence, her impending legal issues, her missing Shaman, her missing morals and ethics, and last but not least, her missing laptop.
The laptop isn't missing. I bet 100% she knows exactly where it is. Or it's destroyed. Better be on the safe side 😊.
are the content of her laptop not being saved in a cloud? usually corporations do that back up, therefor not the same laptop is needed.
It is amazing to me that the case of not saying hello is thst big of a deal in S Korea with NJ and HYBE. Like it is so surreal to me. Not to mention your story about your boss and that intern. That culture is so flawed.
Part of their powerplay to influence the court decision
With parents like this and MHJ controlling every move they make I’m not even surprised NJ turned out the way they did
Bully culture in S. Korea are on another level
real life is worser than Kdramas
To the rest of the world, that Korean government is looking real petty, unprofessional and ridiculous that they would waste their time and hold a hearing over a spoiled idol whining that she was snubbed by another idol from a girl group - a group who has had hellfire rained down on THEM from NJ, MHJ and their equally ridiculous fandom.
Does that government not have anything important to worry about????
Oh, you mean like the 23 women that recently died in their workplace???? They weren't idols, so the politicians don't care!!!!!
I can’t believe they would lean on someone who isn’t citizen of Korea rather focusing real important issues
They do, but they are ignoring it in favor of New Jeans and its really not sitting well with every day working people. Especially the families of the workers who died in a fire due to unsafe work conditions. It is so insulting to give what Hanni went through, more attention and more respect, then families of people who died. What example is that setting? On top of that. NO ONE in that building is doing any of their own homework. Not even calling HYBE to see if what Hanni is saying is even true! Are these government workers so stupid to think people don't lie? I am so disgusted by these supposed adults not doing their freaking jobs. What the hell is wrong with that freaking country? They look like a laughing stock to the world with how corrupt and lazy they constantly are. The Ferry, the Mall collapses. Halloween event. All they do is ignore their own people and don't care when wrong things happen to them. Even death. They only love attention and fame and that means latching onto lying little 20 year olds who are going to bring them nothing but hell when the truth finally all comes out.
@@GrumpyKay I agree 💯. And not to mention BTS held a FREE concert to help the government in some bid to host a hige athletic event in 2030 (?). They had to pay for everything, right down to the security. How disgusting they are for allowing this entire mess become a circus! That woman needs to be indicted, convicted and sent to prison. NJ needs to be shelved for a few months and their parents should be publicly reprimanded for THEIR behaviour. I lost all respect for NJ. I don’t care if they never perform again. If hope to hell they are not allowed to break their contract without paying the penalty; and I hope if they leave, they stripped of their brand.
No because they were too busy bashing on poor Suga for falling off a scooter in front of his own house
I am not surprised at all these girls are acting the way they are, it's because their mothers are acting this way and they are being lead by this woman named mhj. I just hope Hybe continue to activate their good talents and artists and perform different activities that will drown the negativity being spread by this mhj. Please do not allow this woman destroy the excellent talents of Hybe. Go Katseye, Illit, Le Serafim and everbody not named nj, soar high!!!
Promis_9 too, they are a girl group under hybe.
Promis_9 too. They are a girl group under hybe.
Well off you go then ,bye
Just think that one greedy woman orchestrated this whole mess and she's not going to stop until she gets what she wants. I'm still at a loss as to why her laptop hasn't been handed in. Only reason is because she has a lot to hide - it's obvious as daylight. GUILTY!!! Master Manipulator!!
From an international perspective, this all looks absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe MHJ, the NJ girls, and their parents are getting away with being such horrible bullies to ILLIT and other Hybe staff. How is it that nobody can do anything to curb their abuse? It's infuriating to witness.
The bullies are crying that they are being bullied… and using the weakest excuse ever. “Just ignore her” is not bullying. It’s saying don’t pick a fight. Are the NJ members and parents so delusional that they think they can throw so much shade at Illit and other girls groups and those groups would want to chat it up with them?! “Ignore her” is the nicest thing the manager could have said (if indeed it was even said). It’s just saying not to engage with the NJ members even though they have been bullying you.
Karma will get all of them n they will regret terribly
I don’t understand why it’s belift’s responsibility to find the incriminating incident. If MHJ and NJ are claiming it happened, why didn’t they dig through a month’s worth of videos to find it? Why put it on belift to look for it, then get upset b/c they didn’t find it?
tactics to destroy HYBE, its part of her plans, based on her published KAKAO chats
Now it's destroying Hanny's life, but she just couldn't remember the exact date.
Because Hybe has the footage, and as NJ side said, they deleted it
@@amyw1715 do they have proof for that? no… just another empty accusation
@@amyw1715 ador is a label under hybe just like belift and they all share the building. So why didn’t ador ask for all of the footage to support their claim earlier, before the 30 day retention policy expired?
Yes. I want to know Why no one is talking about the laptop, the leaked agreement, MHJ insulting her own girl group, MHJ covering up sexual harassment etc etc.
SK is just a mess. Why Hybe doesn’t just bankrupt Ador! Is beyond me. No funds no contract nothing. Those parents are the issue! Status grabbing parents who are just after money money. Time to take measure to protect the main entity. Time to “embarrass” the parents publically.
They are starting on doing this. Hybe already removed ador ang nj from their financial records starting this month. 😂
I'm Korean and we're controlled by the media. Hybe is a startup company and has been under countless attacks since BTS' debut. Can't beat the power of Kakao right now. MHJ is astonished that it has taken root in politics as well. Her commentary unit is systematically covering up the mouths of the general public of SK.
Its HYBE's company.....no point in bankrupting it...
@@ENHA_illiesI appreciate your 1st hand observations. Please, continue to enlighten us. As an international fan from US, I find this entire mess unfathomable.
I wish it was that easy honestly but what about those people who would lose their jobs coz of NJ and MHJ😢
What a way to distort what bullying REALLY is. Why don't they deal with actual bullying instead of imaginary bullying?? 🙄
Hani is not good at Korean. She made errors in Korean twice, even in her message that she would go to the National Assembly. But did she get what the manager said correctly? It's just that they are using every means to get out of Hybe without paying..
@IamJerry_0802Right. Why is she obsessed with Korean bow culture? She's just busy demonizing Hybe.
@@ENHA_illies you are sick, seek help
You're right. Out of all members, the non Korean one is the most offended one, how is that even possible?
I really hope you're right. I keep waiting for the tides to turn against Min Hee Jin and the parents. Hanni is testify on music industry bullying? Since when is saying "ignore her" bullying? This is getting more ridiculous. I fear that MHJ is going to come out a winner. She's evil and nothing seems to stick to her.
It just makes me sad because I feel like she got invited to testify cause she's considered high profile. Like where are the Omega X members or even LSF/Illit for experiencing all of this cyber bullying? Since they invited her to testify, that decreases the committee's credibility as well....
@@josiegordon7397Yes, 💯
@@josiegordon7397it is all staged and planned.
Same...
Especially with the context. There's a BeLift case over Min Heejin's treatment of Illit. It's actually recommended that people avoid each other in cases like theirs to avoid more accusations.
People act like because NJ are victims of Min that they themselves can do no wrong despite being bullies themselves who enjoy hinging behind the infantilization inflicted upon them by fans. Being a victim of someone doesn’t mean you cant victimize others. NJ members could’ve said something to defend the other groups and chose not to, and it’s not because they don’t know what’s happening because they do check social media. Those they victimized have every right not to interact with them if they so chose not to.
i used to like these girls when they debuted. but now... i just cant. i stopped watching them even before all these MHJ issue came out..i think it was when Cookie came out. and then i watched one of their Live performance. its underwhelming. for me anyways. and then these issues..one after the other...their impromptu live was the last straw.
It's hypocritical that Min Hee Jin's Kakao talk bullying messages are not taken seriously but this "ignoring" at the office by a team you and Mom are attacking is taken to the national assembly, Pity!
I'm embarrassed to be Australian, due to a certain girl whom thinks she is entitled. :\
The thing is the real australian citizens are being affected by these immigrants.No offense but mostly of australians trouble makers are the immigrants.Clashes of cultures needs a lot of struggles on how you adapt it(foreign)how you maintain (native) and how you remain equal(both).Like in the case of Danielle and Hanni,The parenting styles influenced a lot.We accept it or not for others,there is some kind of superiority and entitlement as if it was applicable in all of the countries that they will go.
Me too. I am Australian and Army. I cringe thinking about their connection to Australia. It is embarrassing.
@@KimWatson-s8y GFY
Because you'd know, you're an insider with ALL the facts, yeah? You listen to this peddler of gossip and take it as actual fact. Truth is we have all seen only a glimpse of the real truth. Wake up and grow up.
no need to be overdramatic bc you sound now just like them who made a scandal out of not being greeted in the elevator
As always thank you Sean for an in depth review of this crazy situation.
MHJ, NJ, and NJ's parents need to all just leave. I'm so sick of all the drama that THEY themselves are causing.
Gawd... Just STOP MHJ, NJ and NJ's parents. Y'all's crazy is really showing.
100% agreed. Super tired
Yes! Tell Hybe to let them go instead of making minors and their families pay 300 billion won in compensation to break contract. Hybe was the one that started this mess and made it public, but they are trying to hang onto them, it’s sickening.
@@amyw1715 your crazy is showing. 🙄🙄😳😳
These parents are not looking loving and caring. They are creating the problem. They are just adding another nail to the coffin. This is the daughters' careers they are messing up, and let's be real, their future paycheck. No other company will want to work with them because they don't want to bring that mess into their walls. Love Hybe just sitting back quietly and watching the downward spiral.
They are betting on foreign investors. Some Middle Eastern investors are interested in getting into the K-pop market.
Can I sue NJ parents for bad parenting🙄🙄 or drag them to the national assembly for bullying my brains🤦🏼♀️because they ignored my peace🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I cannot wait for conclusion of this whole drama...
People should see this coming, MHJ turns her vs HYBE into NJ vs HYBE, and ILLIT comeback is around the corner and look at the hate and bullying they got, it's unfair.
they already ignore real issues and serious bullying, they're now going to use her case as an example of idols and such lying and/or exaggerating which in turn does nothing but hurt more victims in the future
We’ll never know if the behavior of “ our daughter” was of the nature that you can’t do nothing but to ignore 🤷🏻♀️
Let’s see how long NJ lasts in the industry. The consumers will have the last word when all said and done. We are so done…at least I am. I would not support anything they do from those spoiled brats.
Yes. I blocked them also. It's easy.
This matter is definitely a non issue that should have been discussed and settled internally in the company. The girls who are now adults are certainly acting so entitled and it reflect clearly what kind of mindset they have. Very similar to their parents and MHJ who is a narcissist and psychopath. What a shame!
Thanks for sharing this 💜
I'm so exhausted by the ongoing chaos surrounding NJ and MHJ. At this point, I genuinely believe that ever since Min Hee-jin started working for SM, she has been trying to orchestrate the downfall of HYBE and BigHit Music after the downfall of SM. I recall a few years back when SM and BigHit had some disagreements. What makes this situation even worse is that MHJ seems to have influenced some parents to support this agenda, and now young girls in NJ are following their example. They're even making false accusations about being bullied at HYBE. If anyone should be looked at for bullying, it’s Min Hee-jin.
I feel so disgusted by NJ parents, NJ and their bunnies, they are done!
A non Korean Citizen speaking in a Korean National Assembly....... Wow!!!!!
Imagine having the gull, the gumption, the chops, THE MOXY to be parents of idols in this situation, screaming about justice for your girls....while you BLATANTLY ignored all the other ALLEGED mistreatment that YOUR CHILDREN HAVE BEEN FACING SINCE THE BEGINNING. People saying we shouldn't call NJ parents what THEY HAVE BEEN ACTING LIKE, money hungry and delusional, can miss me with all that "their naive" nonsense tell that to Britney Spears parents. I'm sorry but the hate, the ridicule, THE STRAIGHT disrespect that your children's manager not only OPENLY INCOURAGED, but CONTINUES TO FUEL towards EVERY other group??? Unmatched, and all completely one sided. Absolutely not you're completely right how NJs are acting ISN'T just a product of MHJ *(after all we have to look at it from the way of hmm maybe the reason she was able to really GET IN with the parents is because THEY THE SAME TYPE)* 😐, but hey let's completely ignore all of the shady behavior from their whole end and scream "Hybe Bad, BElift worse"😂
Did NJ's parents showed their faces? I don't even see their names mentioned anywhere. They give interviews as faceless and anonymous "NJ's parents"?
As always thanks for your wonderful work. I really appreciated your explanations .
Hanni raising the bar of bullying so high.
"Ignore her"
Even the minority party in assembly wanted some attention by siding with her but he sucked-up by accusing Illit as the bullies.Misinformations seems to be rampant in the national assembly poor koreans,their taxes just goes to waste because the foreign worker got some tantrums.
The more i hear about hanni n mhj.. i get so angry. Njeans n mhj just need to go away.. the most toxic group n so called 'mother".. 😡😡
I just watched Omega X press conference after Hanni's hearing. The face of the real victims are totally different. Those guys were severely bullied, but their case wasn't investigated like this.
I have mentioned the OMEGA X incident which is based on facts, on several different forums!!! HYBE needs to resolve this by looking at the contract with New Jeans and finding the clauses where the group has damaged the company's reputation. Then terminate the contract and recoup any financial losses they have incurred.
I’m so over them
Someone should totally ask the parents why it’s okay for MHJ to talk bad about their Hildrew, but not okay for a manager to tell his wards to ignore! They need to be confronted with some uncomfortable and inconvenient truths!
I am waiting for that 1 person who will expose all the conversations these people are involved in and we will finally get MHJ and the people responsible for this with accountability. This is going crazy, this is not right and there are far more important matter than this. This is pure stupidity and GREED. I hate these kind of people.
I truly hope this is their last show of arrogance and pettiness. The tides truly have to turn now, I hope in the hearing today that common sense prevails.
P.S. “No one wants to be the last fool in the room” the wise words of @SeouliteTV
Yeahhhhh, let's be real. That ain't gonna happen 🤣. I'm just curious which one will be next, MHJ, the parents again, or the members again, or maybe another surprise figure will enter the mix.
@@josiegordon7397 if she is re-elected CEO then justice must truly be a facade.
@@destineespoetry Amen to that, but it's SK so I wouldn't put anything past them
Well, at the end of this month, in 3 LONG weeks, MHJ will be gone from Ador and Hybe!!!! Sure, she can work in the background, but her actual voice in real time at the workplace is null and void!!!! If NJ brings her in anyway, could they be in breach of their contract?
@@nataliacoggins6769 They already in breach of contract so probably xD
"what about the elevator's parents" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The best weapon humanity has against lunatics, narcissists, and brats, is indifference. For these kinds of people, any attention is good attention, shouting the loudest makes things you say become true, etc. Ignoring/being indifferent to them is the one thing that really, reeeaaaally harms their mental state. They cannot cope with it. They don't understand it, and they don't know how to handle it (as demonstrated by NJ's themselves! Someone's indifference led to this mess, folks 😂), and it's hilarious to watch the progression... The minute you are indifferent too/you ignore them, the wheels start turning as their faces turn to confusion, you can see the cogs whirring in their brains as they panic-search for an explanation/solution where there is none, they generally then try and throw out some wild accusations because they're a victim of something stupid (victim card, activate! 👊🏼😎😂), then they tend to have a tantrum because it's their go to move when things don't go their way, and when that still fails, they've no option left but to eventually tuck tail and leave 🤷🏼♀️😂
I agree with everything you wrote except the last part. Narcissists are incapable of tucking tail and running because in their minds they must always come out as the winner. Instead, they will seek vengeance at all costs (and I believe MHJ has a powerful backer).
@@sharonlahaye5803 I lumped a broad range of people into one general behaviour progression, there are always some super delusionals that will never walk away, but not everyone is a MHJ. For a lot, they would rather start the cycle again somewhere else to get the attention etc they crave.
My ex took a long time to get the message after I left him, but after 7 years of indifference to him turning up on my doorstep shouting abuse, making threats, tantrums etc, he had no choice but to finally understand I am gone, I had been gone for 7 years... 🤦🏼♀️ I've now had almost 3 years of peace and quiet again! 😁😂
Watch this girl Hanni crumble under scrutiny as lawmakers will ask tough questions..These poor lawmakers will be so embarrassed by her lies it’s will be a car crash
And now supposedly there's a former SK judge on their side, manipulating the sk legal system as SM has been doing since their beginning. So many things that are beautiful and good about sk! But not this, not NJ, MHJ, or any of their minions. They are a stain
If New Jeans behave like little children they should be treated like little children. They aren't grown up enough to be professionals.
IF you want to support ILLIT in a tangible way, you can VOTE for them on the EMAs. They are nominated for Best Asian Act.
As a NZ BTS Army and K Drama lover .I understood the seriousness of a contract when the actor Lee Sun-Kyun sadly took his life , he literally had no choice . That doesn't make the contract right but it's an absolutely the sad truth . The K Drama Doona with Bae Suzy is based around the power of money in a contract and the difficulties of getting out of the contract . So it's so surprising the Korean parents are involved . Sometimes I feel there is someone else behind this ...like another 'big co.' ? My daughters best friend is Korean, meaning born and bred in Korea , she has said the lack of 'respect' is shocking ....but she also says that there is a 'new wave of 'women rights'...which is great but MHJ is using this to her advantage so HYBE are having to be very careful . Which they seem to be doing their best navigating this never-ending drama .
Yes, Kakao's Chinese parent company is her non-Korean investor, as is SM!!!!! Remember, SM and Kakao are caught up in a criminal conspiracy of stock manipulation with last year's Hybe bid to buyout SM!!!!!!! So yeah, MHJ has locked arms with Hybe haters wanting to take over Hybe and BTS!!!!!
@@nataliacoggins6769 right well there u go so stressful. I wonder if ‘they ‘ understand that Korea is airing its ‘dirty laundry’ … presumably they don’t care and that explains why MHJ is so dam confident.
BTS have been so good at promoting Korea it’s a shame . Can’t wait for Hobi at least , Jin goes traveling looking a little overwhelmed but trying his best .
They do not support her because the set back she gave in her talk and unproffesional behaviour
@@mo-music9077 well somebody is
I would tell my kids to do the same thing and ignore the problem girls. They are self entitled by their parents and crazy lady. If I were illit parents I would sue the girls and their parents not the company for defamation of character. I would avoid the problem girls. Is like being forced to be nice to the drama they cause. It's mind blowing.
Thank you so much..I think the parents and NJ are so far into this. That they can not tell what is truth or not.. With all this going on, I would think HYBE has the right to cancel NJ contract. No money...And NJ not coming to HYBE for any work, that there would be a bye-bye. NJ parents should have stayed out of this at the beginning. If anyone is betrayed here, it is HYBE, the one who trusted these people. Gave NJ a chance of a lifetime. If NJ is wanting money and a life style like BTS, then they have to REALLY WORK FOR IT... And for some reason NJ stays at HYBE, then NJ needs to relearned from the start. Do the beginning like BTS...
Why would any good parent let their kid live in a "cockroach infested" or terrible dorm.
The problem with the parents is not how nj is treated but now they are not getting as much money, and probably a very shaky future in the industry.
All the negativities they are in right now it's dragging them down.
This bat crazy. Send min heejin , minions, narcissistic parents, brainwashed members to be disciplined.
Don't you rather prefer to be ignored? Like bullies do not even need a reason to notice you, so how is ignoring now qualify as bullying?
Far as I know, bullies are the ones who WANT ATTENTION, right?
At this point it is just a HUGE embarrassment to NJ, their parents, MHJ, the Korean media, public and government. Seriously? Over smt as trivial as a hello/goodbye? I definitely believe this was strategically constructed for a hidden agenda MHJ has.
Why js Ador allowing these people to do what they want - working offsite???? Why is Hybe allowing this? Where the hell is Bang Sihyuk and why is he putting up with THAT?! Don’t tell me Hybe/Ador are financing this remote location the girls are working at? Are they still living up in their castle?
How is a huge conglomerate that has access to top tier lawyers and a lot of money, not tying this woman up in Court and pushing forward these criminal accusations? Why does it take the Police and prosecutor so long to bring a finding of indictment or otherwise, against that woman?? How does ONE woman manage to control everything that’s going on! From an international (western) perspective, this whole thing is so outrageous and would be unheard of or simply not tolerated in our legal systems. It’s insanity!
I think that hybe/ador aren't striking back just yet to a) let mhj run her mouth and get herself into trouble or b) hybe not causing any 'harm' to them so it looks good in court.
An example of this is when ador offered mhj a compromise with becoming the producer of nwjns for the next 5 years instead of the position of ceo in order to prove they(ador) had made sufficient attempts to resolve the conflict, this in turn can be used as evidence in court.
If Adore moved off site, it could be the key to violation of contract. Perhaps Min failing to educate NJ and parent ( ie not getting permission to attend general assembly, speaking to a media outlet, etc) This story needs to be a KS drama staring Lee Min Ho as CEO of Hybe, Joon Woo Sung as Judge, Jae Woo as Prosecutor and NJ to star as themselves in video snips. Te He😂
There are other forces behind this. BSH is doing what is good to protect everybody. Because they are a conglomerate. They can not act like the other party to distract and deceive.
@@elizabethbesco4758 Ador didn’t move off site (to practice) the girls and the staff supporting them did. That staff should be fired and those girls should be told to come back under Hybe’s roof! Who do they think they are - at 2 years (rookies) - calling the shots to practice elsewhere?! The entitled attitudes really angers me! Hybe needs to ‘shelve’ them for awhile.
@@mo-music9077 Not distract and deceive - use the court system to the best they can to get her into court to face the criminal allegations asap. It’s unacceptable for the police to not have done anything as of yet, though Hybe submitted the evidence to them. Her and NJ’s bull💩has gone on far too long.
28:05
If they have a place outside of HYBE and working there, then that's a 100% bridge of trust, in which HYBE can use it against Min Hee Jin and the girls. Will they really do that?
they'll argue because of the workplace mistreatment / bullying ?? why don't they leave HYBE already .... sooo tired of their drama ..
You know whom would really get nj’s parents to shut up illit parents should release a statement about the bullying that new jeans members keep trying to expose their (illit’s) children and the fact that it’s coming from grown as adults who have children.. New Jeans parents should be completely ashamed and embarrassed of themselves
Sadly I think what would work best for public opinion, isn't something HYBE wants to do. And thats illit and their parents finally speaking out about the bullying they are going through because of New Jeans, MHJ and their parents. But HYBE is trying very very hard to keep the groups out of the mess because it was never about them. Its always been about MHJ getting caught doing crimes. So, sadly, and smartly, the groups will stay out of it. What sucks is taking the high road and being mature is leaving the door open for them getting accused by the actually bullies, of so many things that they didn't do. That shows you who the real bullies are. I cant wait for the Assembly to be so embarrassed when they realized they invited the actual real bully, to speak about anti-bulling.
@@GrumpyKay Fr. It’s just funny cause even after MHJ name dropped a bunch of names in her first press conference, then hybe comes out with a statement saying don’t bring groups into this. Then when belift releases evidence against their groundless rumors, they are accused of sabotaging illit. It just blows my mind how much fans want to push the narrative they desire
love ur channel,Your channel is the only place i trust to give correct news and actual and truthful situation of Nwjns ,their parents and mhj,pls continue with ur good work of speaking truth with actual facts,which their fans are trying to cover up with their fake and obvious lies that theyre too dumb to see the truth😂😂😊❤
HYBE BOY and K-Pop Shock also give reliable info, although K-Pop Shock (Journalist Kim) doesn't go into deep-dives like this in his routine posts, only in his livestreams. Which are in Korean.
Hybe boy went back to the kakao talk messages between her & her VP & having the parents make a complaint was brought up as a strategy in april
Those NJ girls look like bullies. Trying to hide behind those fake innocent faces. Never liked them to begin with.
Same. They're literally mean girls who love playing-victim. I'm not a fan of other groups but they're okay for me. But NJ gave me mean girls vibes. When they debuted, I had a feeling that they would cause trouble, problems and drama and now I was right.
I feel more sorry for illit and the parents of the members. I also feel bad that this has to happened during the comeback. Like they had so much hate during debut and now the comeback. Its unfair for them to be brought into this mess again.
That society is so toxic, corrupt and I feel so sorry for all the good innocent people who have lost their lives and also those who are still living, breathing and struggling to survive. Life is truly hard and I know there isn't one country that is perfect but this, this is just too much in my opinion.
Yes, yes!! Minute 20:50 🔥 ALL the other fandoms under Hybe must come together. Because it is an issue that is affecting not only BTS but also, Seventeen, TXT, BoysNextDoor, LeSserafim, ILlit, Enhypen. Show support by streaming and buying only from official sites.
As an ARMY I support this (go listen to the new Super Tuna Jin released, everyone)
I'm ARMY but I joined ILLIT's reverse to send then a supportive fan letter. I just feel awful for them. I will be buying their album (I enjoyed their debut album! All the songs were great and I usually don't care for girl groups)
@@AstraSystem hi fellow armyyyy 💜 Hobi will be back soon and Jimin’s birthday is coming up
I really appreciate you going into the cultural background of how specific aspects are perceived within the context of Korean public, thank you
Yes, all this is trying to get them out of their contract without paying the fine.
I find it funny that she's complaining about not saying hello, if you look at the run BTS episodes, there is one in which V says the same thing to bang PD. The level of feeling self-important is out of control with these people. I truly hope Hype protects these girls and hopefully we'll get them treated for the brainwashing they've received.
The more I hear the more I think that she was the instigator, the staff for the other group felt that the best way to protect their girls is to say ignore her or maybe just to remove them from this one's presence. She's the senior, she's the rich one, she's a more established artist, she's protected because of the whole drama. Reported right after the footage should have been deleted (as per privacy law) making disproving impossible. It was planned, to give them something to complain about to the public/press. The whole think has mhj manipulation stamped all over it. I was concerned for the girls but I think they've learned how to be a toxic with questionable ethics from the master and my concern is misplaced. Hybe may be stuck with them. Maybe time for hiatus, move them to a different building, and then no access by any ador employee to the hybe building or resources or artists- can't "bully" them if they are in another location. They are ador employees, its a total loss, don't allow any more debuts from this company. Wait for the contract to expire, then close ador down, the nj and mhj can be famous for the destruction of a company and jobs. As for the parents, less than ideal , and possibly not capable of seeing how this is going to harm their kids long term. Who's going to want to work with someone who'll bring the entire Korean press to any workplace in the worst way possible.
When all HYBE groups use Weverse, why did they let NJ created their own app "phoning" ???
Because that is what MHJ requested, as part of its way of differentiating itself from Hybe.
@@apartheid84 shouldn't be allowed from the start ..
Yes. That was a huge mistake from Hitman Bang. Also shows how dangerous MHJ is. Surely he regrets it hugely by now.
I don't if I am wrong or right, but weverse was originally going to be for TXT like Vlive was for BTS, but they developed the app more and transferred all the group into the app.
I mean, technically, if the you come across the people that are causing so much issues for you and others, wouldn't you technically want to ignore them anyway?
You had great points. I, for one, think no one speaks up for that poor elevator. I think we should send funeral reefs in protest of the elevator. 😅 All kidding aside, great segment, and always appreciate your candor.
Korea is so upside down. What's right is wrong and what's wrong is right. The longer this goes on, I'm not as optimistic as Sean even though I agree 100% with this video. I'm worried somehow MHJ, New Jeans and their parents will come out on top. There's too much corruption going on.
I'm glad the parents are out there sticking up for their kids, but where were they when they were singing that nasty cookie song when they were underage where was the level of concern then. This is a fight between mhj and hybe she decided to bring new jeans and other groups in to use them as shields. And by the way, your manager is talking shit about the other groups, and then you expect them to say hello to you when you pass them girl. Bye, I would never say anything. Just keep on walking.
Entitled and spoilt parents. don't blame the girls if these parents are their role models