CUMMINS N14 CELECT PLUS: CRANK NO START. TROUBLESHOOTING & REPAIR (Western Star 4964)

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  • @michaeldunagan8268
    @michaeldunagan8268 3 роки тому +6

    I'm giving you a thumbs up because you showed me that my fan clutch is inoperable: it turns the fan even when cranking for the first time in the morning.
    @6.25
    I think you are overcomplicating things. The first thing you need to check in my opinion is if there is any electrical poles getting to the injectors.
    Ed KRON from heavy duty powertrain says to get a "noid" light which will allow to see if electricity is making it to the fuel injector. If the noise light flashes, move it to the other five cylinders / injectors. If each cylinder is injector fires you know there is no problem with the electricity and you can roll out the ignition switch, the ECM, and the fuel solenoid.
    This method with electricity getting to the injectors allows you to jump straight to a testing of the fuel system starting with a fuel pressure gauge hooked to the fuel pump or somewhere in line thereof.
    If the fuel pressure is within specifications then it is quite likely a mechanical fault within the injector (s).

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +2

      Good point Michael! You are right. I will pin your comment up, make sure other viewers can read it as well. Cheers!

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 3 роки тому

      @@PistonShack we have the same problem sir so we n14 I just replaced the engine sensor doesn't want to work now

    • @curtbengal7910
      @curtbengal7910 Рік тому

      @@PistonShack Hello sir... I have the exact same engine... My problem is I just replace the wiring harness and sent the ECM OFF to have it rebuilt... ECM had been off the truck maybe 6-8 months prior to me sending it off for rebuild... Well once got it back put the ecm and wire harness on... It cranks no start... I'm getting no fire or voltage from the wire that runs from the ecm to the fuel solenoid.. Please let me know what would u suggest my next step should be...Again the wire that runs from the ECM and plugs into the top of the solenoid has no reading of voltage... thanks in advance for any feed back..

    • @curtbengal7910
      @curtbengal7910 Рік тому

      @@PistonShack Hello piston shack... Any advice on the question I asked about the fuel solenoid not getting any fire through the wire that connects to it from the ecm??

    • @andrewarmstrong9194
      @andrewarmstrong9194 5 місяців тому

      @@curtbengal7910 this is probably a little late but we had a cat 3126 ecm go bad, we sent it off got it back and same problem, we sent it back 3 times for the same issue, they repair shop never fixed it. We had to end up buying one from caterpillar, it runs like a new one now

  • @thecrackpotfarmer9488
    @thecrackpotfarmer9488 5 місяців тому +3

    Thanks! 98 Freightliner no start after sitting all winter. I didn't get as deep into checking voltages but I had no click at the fuel solenoid. Turns out I had a bad ground in the battery box. Up and running in less than half an hour. Much appreciated!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  5 місяців тому +2

      That's awesome, buddy! Thanks for your kind feedback!

  • @jxp2212
    @jxp2212 4 роки тому +13

    Interesting to know more info about the n14 Cummins, nice work on this fix!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  4 роки тому +3

      Big Brotha Cummins) Not 5.9)

  • @Hitekkleotruckings
    @Hitekkleotruckings 3 роки тому +5

    these are jamaica most favourite truck engine we love them in jamaica

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +2

      That's cool! I didn't know that. We like them in Canada as well)
      Thanks for watching brotha!
      Let me know if you have any questions.
      Drive Safely!

  • @redtoprich
    @redtoprich 3 роки тому +3

    I have 1999 Volvo with n14 that had been sitting for 5 years and I’m going to use this to help me get it started!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +3

      Sounds good Richard! Let me know how everything is going) Cheers!

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 3 роки тому

      we have the same problem sir so does n14 I just changed the engine sensor it doesn't work

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 3 роки тому

      we have the same problem sir so we n14 I just replaced the engine sensor doesn't want to work now

  • @williamkaono1239
    @williamkaono1239 8 місяців тому

    Very informative tutorial. I’ve got an N14 on my T800 that has so far not given me any trouble. But in the event if it should have this type of problem I’ll be sure to know what to look for. Thanks so much for the valuable information. Great job.

  • @PulsarTECH
    @PulsarTECH 4 роки тому +6

    Awesome video! The dash looks like a big fly with many eyes! 😁

  • @sbmasson
    @sbmasson 4 роки тому +5

    Great job on a difficult case

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  4 роки тому +4

      This one was interesting and new, not like doing brakes on Honda Civic or alternator on Toyota Corolla) Thanks Bruce!

    • @randyjackson2938
      @randyjackson2938 3 роки тому +1

      @@PistonShack I'm having the same problem. I just got a 2001 international 9100i n14. I have crank but no start.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому

      Hi Randy! Have you done some troubleshooting already? I forgot a couple of things in my video: 1) Check if you have a tachometer respond when cranking, if not probably most likey engine cam sensor or wiring; 2) check engine temperature gauge when key turned to ON position if arrow points HOT, engine coolant temp sensor is faulty or wiring - could cause crank no start.

    • @randyjackson2938
      @randyjackson2938 3 роки тому +1

      @@PistonShack okay. I check the tachometer. When I turn on the computer respond to me. Do I also need to get a test light check all fuses and relays? Cause I did here some popping sounds from the fuse boxs. When I was driving it home.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      @@randyjackson2938 I would go and check the wiring harness, grounds, distribution box (fuses and relay). Look for any contact points where wires can rub against any shart metal objects as well.

  • @Square005
    @Square005 3 роки тому +2

    Great video! Definitely learned alot. I have an N14 which right now in the cold weather doesn't seem to turn on without me jump starting.. this video may help my problem.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +2

      Great to hear! If you have any questions let me know. Cheers)

    • @Square005
      @Square005 3 роки тому

      @@PistonShack thank you!

  • @toddrussell3152
    @toddrussell3152 Місяць тому +1

    Thankyou so much. That's gonna help

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  Місяць тому +1

      Awesome, I'm glad it was helpful, Todd!

  • @rafaelalvarez3542
    @rafaelalvarez3542 2 роки тому

    excellent video, I have a cummins n 14, in a 98 freightliner, the problem is that it doesn't start in the morning. already starting it has no problem during the day, but the next morning it is the same problem. I will follow the instructions what is in this video.

    • @juanrecinos6613
      @juanrecinos6613 4 місяці тому

      @@rafaelalvarez3542 did you find out what it was? I having the same problem with mine

  • @flaviuandreinechita4679
    @flaviuandreinechita4679 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this , was on the side of the road at 20 degrees untill i found this , fuel selenoid wire was coroded

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +2

      Hey Flaviu! Thanks a lot for your comment. That's huge motivation for me - to know this video helped someone) I am so glad it helped you out even right on a side of the road! Take care brotha! Drive Safely!

    • @flaviuandreinechita4679
      @flaviuandreinechita4679 3 роки тому

      @@PistonShack i appreciate you man! Thanks for taking the time to film what you do , im sure its time consuming ! Take care !

  • @faustorojas6276
    @faustorojas6276 3 роки тому +4

    Well explained!! Thanks it is helpful!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      Glad to hear that! You're so welcome) Happy New Tear Fausto!

  • @hiltonrangasammy6110
    @hiltonrangasammy6110 3 роки тому +1

    Hay like that video I have a N14 Cummins celectcranking no start

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому

      Hi Hilton! How everything is going? Did you sort it out?

    • @ronnieflorece5180
      @ronnieflorece5180 3 роки тому

      @@PistonShack we have the same problem sir so we n14 I just replaced the engine sensor doesn't want to work now

  • @BYG158
    @BYG158 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. I ended up finding that my ecm pins 20 21 22 23 didnt have any power. Truck had shut off in middle of highway. So i went back to batterries and the power to ecm had been cut by hitting the edge of the battery box.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      Nice work brother! I am so glad this short video helped you out. Thanks for your feedback. It means filming this clip wasn't for nothing. Drive safely. Greeting from Canada, British Columbia.

  • @abdoukaramdembele4017
    @abdoukaramdembele4017 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing , great info

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому

      Glad it was helpful brotha! Thanks for your feedback.

  • @McClellan71
    @McClellan71 3 роки тому +1

    Terrific video sir! Thank you

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you liked it! Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers.

  • @redtoprich
    @redtoprich 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video thank u sooooo much!!!

  • @toddalper3243
    @toddalper3243 Рік тому +1

    Excellent!!!

  • @venanciotavares1636
    @venanciotavares1636 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent job. Thanks

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      My pleasure brotha! What's wrong with you n14?

  • @cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813
    @cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813 2 роки тому +1

    Very good master

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 роки тому

      I am so glad this video helped you out Cesar!

  • @dunstangoraiye1351
    @dunstangoraiye1351 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome man!

  • @Sensei22Tv
    @Sensei22Tv 9 місяців тому

    I have a 97 Fld 120 Freightliner and it cranks up and starts but it takes a some time. But when it starts up it running great for about an hour, but if I come out of gear at a high speed it sputters and cuts off. but it cranks back up again

  • @Info-Tech-
    @Info-Tech- 2 роки тому +1

    Very perfect diagnosed

  • @jaimiethomas6847
    @jaimiethomas6847 5 місяців тому

    can he camshaft sensor causes the truck to misfire after the engine is hot

  • @Lik9523
    @Lik9523 Рік тому

    Got a n14. Starts but it cranks for a long time before it starts. Then when it finally starts it’s a little rough. What’s the problem?

  • @pottnah6152
    @pottnah6152 Рік тому +1

    Good vid

  • @codybenton1869
    @codybenton1869 Рік тому

    I need HELP! my celect plus will crank but no start. I can spray starting fluid and it fires up and will idle like normal. I can shut it off and try to crank again immediately it just cranks but no start.

  • @lezaalayon2046
    @lezaalayon2046 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you your vedio sir

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +2

      Most welcome Leza!

    • @lezaalayon2046
      @lezaalayon2046 3 роки тому

      Hi sir, do you have lop top scanner? Can you help me how to buy scanner I'm in the Phelipinse.

    • @robertozenil5709
      @robertozenil5709 3 роки тому +1

      You can a make video fault the ckeck of disel in the Module please

    • @robertozenil5709
      @robertozenil5709 3 роки тому +1

      Excuse me my english no is very good I am mexican I want a learn english sorry

    • @robertozenil5709
      @robertozenil5709 3 роки тому +1

      Excuse me my english no is very good I am mexican I want a learn english sorry

  • @IslandZaddy
    @IslandZaddy Рік тому

    That program what u used for the pins is called brake king ?

  • @saulaleman6438
    @saulaleman6438 2 роки тому +1

    I have an n14 but it cracks forever then it starts I changed the check valve nd Injectors too Wht could it be

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 роки тому

      Most likely you have air sucked into the fuel system. Check all connections for any leaks first. Before cranking crack one of the lines at the pump to verify the fuel.

  • @jontravolta1591
    @jontravolta1591 3 роки тому +1

    I have no voltage at pin 16, can you tell me if there is a fuse on the line.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому

      Sorry Jon for the late reply. I cannot tell you, we sold that truck out. Ii don't have wiring diagram.

  • @CeAaronPlummer
    @CeAaronPlummer Рік тому

    I have a n14 that’s saying no data link on the dash. What could be my problem?

  • @ryangarcia852
    @ryangarcia852 2 роки тому

    I have a 1994 Freightliner fld120 n14 Cummins crank no start the cam sensor has no power at all I traced the wire to the ecm and tested it no power any ideas

  • @sportster88
    @sportster88 2 роки тому

    I've got an N-14 in a bus that wouldn't start. I charged it for 6 hours with the ignition switch turned on and then it started. Now it won't start again and it's leaking fuel from somewhere on the fuel pump.

  • @arnoldlopez302
    @arnoldlopez302 3 роки тому +1

    I have a problem with number 16 pin not getting any power

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      Check wiring down to the pin for short and open.

  • @kennethdorsey1155
    @kennethdorsey1155 3 роки тому +1

    My N14 stop running and Im not getting power to the fuel silonoid nor the injectors no power is coming thru terminal C at all.

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +2

      Have you tried to feed 12V to the fuel shut off solenoid directry?

    • @anthonycary947
      @anthonycary947 Рік тому +1

      So on mine there is one wire running to fuel shutoff, just take wire off and run a jumper straight to battery and see if it fires?

  • @celiahamilton8637
    @celiahamilton8637 3 роки тому +1

    I'm having problem with my 1995 Volvo it's a N14 cummins engine it's been sitting for 2 yrs I would start it every 2 week till in August I changed the oil pump after it just won't start.

  • @tinacastro2641
    @tinacastro2641 3 роки тому +1

    Should I have power to my engine sensor?

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому

      One wire should read voltage, ground and wave form switched signal. Thanks for watching Tina.

  • @mohamedee
    @mohamedee 2 місяці тому

    Have the same issue and I ran some test there is no power getting to the fuel pump or ecm And I need a good mechanic in Wisconsin please if anybody no good person that knows how to diagnostic. In Wisconsin I wish you were here.

  • @pinata-whacker4635
    @pinata-whacker4635 3 роки тому +1

    Ok that a crazy prob- truck would only start with either- runs perfect but couldn’t start on its own- ohm crank pos sensor with volt meter- anything under 38.xx it’s bad- even tho truck run perfect with either start- ran 300+ after either start- but let me tell u changed the crank pos sensor- turn on perfect no issues

  • @Go4BrokeOffroad
    @Go4BrokeOffroad 3 роки тому

    I'm starting a n14 change over into and old bus. Thanks for that pin out info sir. Have you gotten one of these to fire up outside of a chassis?

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому

      Hey brotha! No I didn't fired up N14 Cumming when engine is removed but you need power and ground to the ECU wiring, starter feed and fuel then it should crank and fire up. Let me know how is your project.

    • @mikerau158
      @mikerau158 3 роки тому

      I have take like 5 wire just needs the constant hots and grounds and one keyed hot

    • @prevost8686
      @prevost8686 Рік тому

      What kind of old bus?

  • @gilbertodiaz5620
    @gilbertodiaz5620 2 роки тому

    Hello sir I have Cummins isx I have problem with my truck shuts off when I’m driving Shuts off. Every other day. Any ideas thanks

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 роки тому +1

      Any luck with your Cummins? I would check intermittent crank signal lost and fuel shut of solenoid operation first. Do you have any DTCs present?

    • @gilbertodiaz5620
      @gilbertodiaz5620 2 роки тому

      @PistonShack I. Change crack timing sensor.. it looks like it’s running good now 2 day with out shutting off .. thanks

  • @ss_Qua
    @ss_Qua 2 роки тому

    Have a n14 will crank only if I spray with starting fluid and it’ll only stay running if I hold on the gas

  • @develonmania
    @develonmania 3 роки тому +1

    How to fix fuel shut off stuck open

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      Do you have power to the solenoid when key is ON? Most likely your fuel shut off solenoid is worn out.

  • @ss_Qua
    @ss_Qua 2 роки тому

    I’m not getting power to my engine position sensor

  • @jondavis8571
    @jondavis8571 2 роки тому +2

    fucking badass video bro

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  2 роки тому +1

      I hope this short video helped you out!

  • @Juan11021979
    @Juan11021979 10 місяців тому +1

    Share ESN #
    MY N 14 DON'T FOUND IT

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  10 місяців тому +1

      Sorry, Juan! We don't have that truck any longer.

    • @Juan11021979
      @Juan11021979 10 місяців тому

      Ok , Thanks

    • @Juan11021979
      @Juan11021979 10 місяців тому

      I have a 2007 columbia freightliner...and cummins n14,, adapted

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  10 місяців тому

      Interesting, swap. What's wrong with your N14?

  • @mariocontrerasmartinez484
    @mariocontrerasmartinez484 3 роки тому +1

    Nunca encendió!!

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +1

      Hey Mario. You're so welcome!

  • @rafaelalvarez3542
    @rafaelalvarez3542 2 роки тому

    excellent video, I have a cummins n 14, in a 98 freightliner, the problem is that it doesn't start in the morning. already starting it has no problem during the day, but the next morning it is the same problem. I will follow the instructions what is in this video.

    • @jonathanbradtke860
      @jonathanbradtke860 2 роки тому

      Did you find your issue? Mine has the same or similar issue.

  • @chriswilliams8484
    @chriswilliams8484 3 роки тому +1

    Great information

    • @PistonShack
      @PistonShack  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks Chris! Glad it was helpful!