Everything wrong with language learning advice

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  • @BrainInAVat7
    @BrainInAVat7 Рік тому +126

    You're an amazing creator, and even if you end up stopping, you've contributed a lot of value that you should be proud of!

    • @slaymotomami
      @slaymotomami Рік тому +1

      this.

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  Рік тому +4

      Thank you so much! 💜

    • @colorswordsandlearning
      @colorswordsandlearning Рік тому +4

      Please continue making the videos... just at your own pace... whenever you can.. not as regularly as you do now maybe.

  • @Eeveecat
    @Eeveecat Рік тому +70

    As someone who was diagnosed with generalized anxiety pretty young, and ADHD and autism as I got older, I really want to thank you for bringing that all up in this video!!! I really agreed with pretty much everything you had to say, and I think you said it in a really respectful and thoughtful way. My personal language learning journey has been interesting, because I learned Latin in school for almost 4 years, but retained next to nothing, but over the past year I've been self studying Mandarin Chinese, and I'm almost at a B1 level. So the difference in learning methods in school vs what I did for myself made a *huge* difference, and it's been a huge journey in figuring out how I learn best.
    I especially like the whole talk you had near the end about consuming content critically. I think it's super important to have media literacy in that way, and I love the way you talked about it in a way that isn't negative towards content creators but is also very serious about how we interact with their content. Thank you so much for this video, and good luck with your language journey!

    • @AriS-ym8ec
      @AriS-ym8ec Рік тому +3

      How do you study Chinese?

    • @Eeveecat
      @Eeveecat Рік тому

      @@AriS-ym8ec A lot of my methods have evolved over the past year as I've developed my skill with the language. At first, I used mostly beginner youtube videos, and the app HelloChinese. As I got better, I started to look at a few more things, but most importantly, after a few months I started using HelloTalk. I've continued to chat with exchange partners on there, and have added other resources like Journaly, Language Reactor, and just this week I started on some graded readers. Another thing that I started about a month ago is lessons on italki. I take notes on pretty much everything I do (which has been interesting to figure out a good method to do), and keep a daily journal in Chinese. My primary advice is to just try out a whole bunch of things and see what works best for you! I do recommend doing at least a month of regular self study before starting italki lessons or going on hellotalk, just so you'll get the most out of it and feel comfortable with at least the very basics. Let me know if you have any specific questions!!!

  • @kejeso8736
    @kejeso8736 Рік тому +28

    I love how original your content is.

  • @joreneelanguages
    @joreneelanguages Рік тому +48

    Tanya casually dropping a full thesis/sermon/Ted talk 👏🏼 such an amazing video

  • @DeborahRose
    @DeborahRose Рік тому +21

    I absolutely agree with everything you’ve said but I want to add something to the discussion about influencers motivating their audience when they have different motivations. When I’m in the need for inspiration, I love watching language learning and study vlogs. I might not have the time to dedicate five hours of my day to grammar and vocabulary, but after watching someone else do it, I make sure I spend thirty minutes or an hour doing a small exercise. Your success is not at my expense. It benefits me! I hope you can make this your full time job. Let me know what I can do to help you achieve that.

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  Рік тому +4

      Thank you! I'm working on starting a Patreon, and if you have any ideas on what you'd like to see there, I'm all ears 💜

    • @DeborahRose
      @DeborahRose Рік тому +4

      @tbenavente That sounds amazing! I would definitely consider joining. Off the top of my head, I would be interested in things like language challenges, study schedule templates, journal/topic prompts, and study with me videos (live or recorded or both if you're comfortable).

  • @ThatNerdyMystic
    @ThatNerdyMystic Рік тому +10

    I'm also an Autistic adult and have ADHD and C-PTSD, etc. It's so important to hear the perspectives of others with our same disabilities! And yes-- different people (even if they have the same disability!) have different ways of learning, being motivated, having energy, processing information, etc. There is no one-size-fits-all.
    "At the same time, people want you to be an expert, but also they want you to be relatable." Yes. I think this is influenced a lot by the shift from UA-cam as a social media community-focused platform to a professional-leaning platform... Now audiences expect people to be perfect and perfectly reliable like a professional (even as they don't make a lot, if any compensation for it), while also being entertaining and have a lot of glamor and high-end production (that requires a team of people behind the scenes) while being only one person... The expectations around this remind me of The Society of the Spectacle: the idea that someone who has endless energy, time, ability, perfection, to be an "influencer" to meet all those expectations could be "just like me"/ "a normal person with an average life" (i.e. relatable, accessible) is based on myths and illusions-- especially the myth and illusion of equal opportunity.

  • @fatimaallawati947
    @fatimaallawati947 Рік тому +1

    Hey Tanya, I love how calm you are and plus OMG ur ND me too!
    Finally, I found language learning advice with ND people in mind:)))

  • @kaochko
    @kaochko Рік тому +39

    thanks a million for this video. i appreciate the fact that you've shared your autism diagnosis with us. it's important to talk about it, and for some reason i felt such a relief after you talked about mental health. love everything u do!

  • @drjenburgess
    @drjenburgess Рік тому +25

    What a great video - I will never be a polyglot but I watch several channels for fun (I'm only learning Italian) and I do think you bring something different to the table. It looks hard to be a language youtuber, I see people branching out into making videos about other topics and I wonder if that's because it's hard to find that unique angle. I massively appreciate your honesty I was wondering how you can spend 1-2+ hours a day on a language, how you fit that in, and make (such high quality!) videos and you've answered my question. Congratulations on the 20k! 🎉

  • @kejeso8736
    @kejeso8736 Рік тому +5

    The best video on language learning ever🛐

  • @kirstenkateline
    @kirstenkateline Рік тому +11

    Thank you for another excellent discussion. I feel like everything you say in all of your videos is so well worded, nuanced, and honestly just a great support. A big thank you from someone who also has the special talent to turn everything she loves into something that causes her stress.😅 Cheers!

  • @JuanMoreno-wo5yb
    @JuanMoreno-wo5yb 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Tanya: I sometimes feel undiagnosed with whatever is keeping me from being anything like successful. I didn’t have the best childhood so there could be a few reasons there. I am now rather old, 70 and not in the best of health. At times I say that I only want to learn more Spanish and be more confident in speaking, reading and writing it. Well, “confident” is a big deal. Thank God for your parents who felt the need to get you started in your learning journey. I started rather late in my study of Spanish; in my mid forties. I have had ups and downs. I won’t bore anyone with the details. Just wanted to say really that you are appreciated ❤.

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much for your comment! Wish you all the best in your learning journey ❤

  • @languagetraveladoptee
    @languagetraveladoptee Рік тому +1

    Beautiful video Tanya. Yup, I also will make anything that I love stressful. Very well said that there's this divide between content creation (expert vs being relatable). Really validating as someone who is also building up a channel and trying to be more transparent while actually making a living. Really validating and amazing video!

  • @kgal1298
    @kgal1298 Рік тому +1

    I agree with you. There's nothing wrong with how people are learning we need to find ways that work for us. I also watched a bunch of the learning videos, but the truth is a lot of people in language learning do not 1. have full-time classes or 2. full-time jobs. I spent years learning Japanese and lived there and thought I retained nothing, but the truth is when I went back to using apps as a passive way to remember my studies I realized I retained a lot of it long term and decided to casually go back into learning it in a way that fits my schedule. So the rate of learning doesn't matter just make sure you don't burn yourself out trying to compete with UA-camrs or anyone else that have way more time to study.

  • @satkinson1989
    @satkinson1989 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the video, there's a lot of information out there and it can be difficult to find your own way!

  • @Seriinudesu
    @Seriinudesu Рік тому +5

    Thank you for the detailed and very interesting video. Being a language content creator myself I can relate so much to the things you said 😅

  • @LeeAnneDavisUK
    @LeeAnneDavisUK Рік тому +2

    I was thinking about this recently and then I see your video - definitely agree with what you've covered in this video. Appreciate it!

  • @belindafernandes5937
    @belindafernandes5937 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing and being so open. I find your videos very inspiring and always find a takeaway that is helpful. I think you said it all. I am currently learning Italian and have a lot of challenges with my memory and consistency so I often watch language-learning videos for a boost of motivation. I do find some videos leave me feeling bad that I haven't progressed very fast but I always step away when I feel like that. I think you do a great job of keeping things real and I appreciate that. I wish you the best in your endeavors and hope you will still be able to make videos from time to time but I understand and thank you for all that you have done.

  • @mxdavie
    @mxdavie Рік тому +1

    This video is amazingly insightful. I'm so impressed with how you were able to stand back and reflect upon yourself so objectively, almost like you were studying yourself (and others in your position) without a personal bias. Incredibly hard to do. Very well done - I learned a lot!

  • @liisukka517
    @liisukka517 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for your wise words! I selfishly hope that you can continue doing videos next year.

  • @etharsanhory1522
    @etharsanhory1522 Рік тому

    You’re so down to earth, this is the first video I watch and i loved it

  • @mekelaspence2092
    @mekelaspence2092 Рік тому +2

    Honestly so happy to have found your channel

  • @olgap3101
    @olgap3101 Рік тому +13

    Теперь я знаю как называть свою способность "превращать в стресс все, что мне нравится" 😂 Очень искреннее и полезное видео, вообще тема личного эмоционального опыта в изучении языка очень свежая, не только с т.з. интересности контента, но и как дающая возможность глубже взглянуть внутрь себя. Очень классная идея, спасибо.

  • @Bodanomet
    @Bodanomet Рік тому

    Recently have discivered your videos and find them very useful to reflect on strategies and tools on language learning. Keep it up!

  • @Shuai_718
    @Shuai_718 Рік тому +1

    This video is really helpful for me to re-establish my own language journey, and I really feel relatable about a lot of topics what you just said, and some advise you gave are things I've been thinking and doing lately. thank you for making this video!!!

  • @nuraynurgazy5857
    @nuraynurgazy5857 Рік тому

    you talked about language learning, but I found so many answers to my life questions in your words. Thankyou!

  • @LeroyJenkinsya
    @LeroyJenkinsya Рік тому +3

    Спасибо большое за такое видео!
    Скажу со своей стороны, мне ближе видео НЕ экспертов, даже если это одно видео раз в несколько месяцев. Элементы влога, "реальной жизни" - заходят на ура. Я такими видео всегда вдохновляюсь и нет мыслей, что это "контент ради контента". Сложно объяснить:)

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  Рік тому +2

      Да, я понимаю, о чем речь :) Моя проблема еще в том, что чем реже я выпускаю видео, тем больше стресса испытываю, работая над каждым отдельным видео, и тем больше начинаю пытаться сделать каждое видео шедевром (логика такая, что если выпускаю видео раз в квартал, надо чтобы это был уровень Оскара) 🙃 Видимо, being laid-back вообще не про меня просто 😅

  • @user-eo9lj6wt7f
    @user-eo9lj6wt7f Рік тому +1

    Я не знала , что у Вас теперь другой канал . Но это даже плюс для меня , ведь я учу английский ( и турецкий ) . Здорово ❤. Подписываюсь

  • @aleksandramierzwa6444
    @aleksandramierzwa6444 Рік тому

    Helpful video! And you are so right. I am a walking example of a person studying using all the wrong methods haha but it works for me so I am gonna stick to it! I love putting just words (not whole sentences) on flashcards, I love studying grammar, I love making notes and I do not wanna listen to some podcast for HOURS, I am done after 15 minutes but I enjoy studying grammar so everything, not the right way but who cares, at least I am still studying :)

  • @juparula
    @juparula 9 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for sharing these genuine thoughts!

  • @pearlywong
    @pearlywong Рік тому

    I learned so much from this video! thank you so much Tanya for sharing your thoughts on these important topics!

  • @Bruh-qy1zq
    @Bruh-qy1zq Рік тому +6

    your content is so inspiring and has really helped me to tackle learning Japanese without feeling like giving up!

  • @user-xc2ey6yd3d
    @user-xc2ey6yd3d Рік тому

    Hey Tanya, thank you for sharing your experience. I've been procratinating with one work task for a week. After watching your video I somehow can find the will to start working on that. Regarding your recomendation of the book "Laziness does not exist", tbh I think it does exist and I am a lazy person. And this assumption of mine is a very good reason to add the book to my reading list (and then procrastinate and do not read it lol). But jokes aside, I am sure I can benefit from it. And thank you for being so open about your diagnosis.
    Going back to my work task, or i will change my mind, procrastinate for one more week and get myself fired!

  • @aleksandraszymborska7664
    @aleksandraszymborska7664 6 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for this video! ❤

  • @lostinstardust4228
    @lostinstardust4228 Рік тому

    Advice in general can be either good or bad depending on how it’s presented from one person to another. What I have personally learned is that any advice even in language learning is to take it with a grain of salt because the advice could be beneficial for that particular person but may not be beneficial for you.

  • @30C_30C
    @30C_30C Рік тому

    I've been trying to learn English since last year (I only speak Spanish) and I've been feeling very guilty for not starting earlier because I've been comparing myself with people who have a different context. This video encourages me to continue on my journey.

    • @30C_30C
      @30C_30C Рік тому

      If someone see this comment, please I really appreciate if you recommend me youtubers like Tanya (in english)

    • @luca_the_linguist
      @luca_the_linguist Рік тому

      @@30C_30C Hi! So cool you're learning English! I'm currently learning Spanish myself :) My favourite youtubers next to Tanya are: Elysse Speaks, İclal, and Lindie Botes! Some other interesting creators are: languagejones, Luca Lampariello, Steve Kauffman and Olly Richards, but these have a different style video, while the first 3 are similar in vibe to Tanya! Have fun learning!

  • @ElenaL.-xy1im
    @ElenaL.-xy1im Рік тому

    Таня,спасибо за видео 😊 Мне очень нравится твоя подача, ты делишься своим опытом, не навязывая советы и решения и не утверждая, что твои путь единственно правильный - и без дисклеймеров это послание прекрасно считывается ❤ У тебя лчень интересная судьба, ты планируешь рассказать про себя в отдельном видео? Хотелось бы просмотреть на твой другой канал, как он называется?

  • @Zainabzekria-h5k
    @Zainabzekria-h5k 10 місяців тому

    Your video always make me inspired ❤

  • @bzylarisa
    @bzylarisa Рік тому +1

    I admire you so much🙏🏻✨

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  Рік тому +2

      Oh my god, thank you so much! 💜

    • @bzylarisa
      @bzylarisa Рік тому +1

      You're very welcome😁@@tbenavente

  • @Daviddaze
    @Daviddaze Рік тому

    In the menu, captions, autotranslate are 16 languages to read along to video

  • @lucasolinto
    @lucasolinto Рік тому

    I feel smarter when listening to you, thanks.

  • @alguien908
    @alguien908 Рік тому

    Acabo de encontrar tu canal y llevo un buen rato mirando tus vídeos, creo que es lo que me hacía falta.
    I consider myself bilingual in Spanish and English, albeit I want to learn more languages, after not doing any new language learning in college for a really long while I picked up Mandarin Chinese, and while I'm far from my goal I felt like I'm progressing? But something is wrong with how most people approach language learning, I watched in your other videos how you don't consider speaking a goal in some languages (I also don't really, I want to be able to use my language in an emergency or if I ever travel to China but that's not why I'm learning), as well as how we just need to take it chill. I'm autistic and even though I like doing this I find like some neurotypical advice I see doesn't really apply to me.
    Recientemente he podido desarrollar mi propia metodología, sobre todo me gusta usar input, leer y escuchar, pero también debería de adaptarse al idioma, hay varios idiomas que me gustaría aprender. Recientemente he podido desarrollar un plan para estudiar euskera, un idioma que me resultaría útil en mis circumstancias pero no he sabido como afrontar, de momento voy a seguir con mi Chino un poco más pero cuando sienta que tengo un nivel en el cual sea más fácil mantenerlo empezaré con el euskera, si no llego tan lejos como me gustaría no es muy importante ya que ahora mismo no necesito realmente aprender ninguno de los dos idiomas, pero es un buen hobby para sentir que estoy haciendo algo con mi vida mientras que me lo paso bien, si por lo que sea me piden euskera en un trabajo (vivo en una región donde es hablado) o acabo en China viajando, por trabajo o por cualquier motivo, entonces sí me plantearé estudiarlos para obtener un muy buen nivel de acorde a lo que necesite, pero si me acabo agobiando no pasa nada

  • @bayanforoozan9843
    @bayanforoozan9843 2 місяці тому

    Best language advice ever!

  • @Celestina0
    @Celestina0 Рік тому

    So glad to find another autistic person with languages as a special interest!! How do people learn languages without an element of obsession or the need for repetitive routine?

  • @josefinacarrazza6205
    @josefinacarrazza6205 10 місяців тому

    gracias por tanta motivación!!!! 😍

  • @user-eo9lj6wt7f
    @user-eo9lj6wt7f Рік тому

    Hello. Please make a video about all the language learning apps You use They were in Your video Shorts❤

  • @fersay777
    @fersay777 Рік тому

    Hi there. Love your channel.

  • @WilliamDunBroch
    @WilliamDunBroch Рік тому

    im autistic and a language learner too ahhhh 😭😭😭😭🫂🫂🫂🫂

  • @josemm2
    @josemm2 Рік тому

    u should do a goodnotes tour

  • @Ballykeith
    @Ballykeith Рік тому +1

    From what I'd seen of your content I did assume you were a perfect 💯 but that never came across as annoying. Now I learn that you're not 😲 you're relatability has shot up. All the best for whatever course in life you decide to go with next.

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! And yeah, I'm very far from being perfect 😅

  • @火災のアイスクリーム
    @火災のアイスクリーム 10 місяців тому

    There is just one fact about language learning: all advices are subjective because language learning itself is subjective

  • @sheeliekittie9298
    @sheeliekittie9298 Рік тому

    Hi Tanya, lately I feel overwhelmed with my language learning and feel I'm getting nowhere. Is it a mistake, you think, to try and fit in a lot of language studies all in one day? And moreover, do you feel it's best to focus on one language at a time until achieving some level proficiency before moving on to the next? Also, how do you keep track of your hours spent studying, or how do you log this if you do at all? Thank you!!

  • @eliz_sk
    @eliz_sk Рік тому +1

    Спасибо ❤

  • @adapienkowska2605
    @adapienkowska2605 Рік тому +4

    One of the less useful pieces of advice is the Internet obsessed with input. It seems to be great for false debutants, people who had classes in school and know something about the structure of the language or are learning a language from the same language family (like I understand a lot of Ukrainians without putting even half the effort I put into Chinese).
    Also, you are the first language UA-camr who doesn't focus as much on speaking and much more on content consumption.

  • @TempestPhaedra
    @TempestPhaedra 5 місяців тому

    Nothing will make you decide language learning advice is context dependent than learning a language that is not popular to learn and having different priorities than most learners. I enjoy language learning content just for the feeling of being part of some community. I don't expect to get anything useful out of it. I had that expectation when I first started trying to learn a language and I wasted half a year as a result, just from trying to make that advice fit. I'm of the opinion that at this point everything that can be said about how to learn a language has been said and any further discussion is coming from people procrastinating their own studying or trying to make a buck. So, while I still enjoy that kind of content, I don't take it seriously.

  • @pablo_snps
    @pablo_snps Рік тому

    Hiiiii ! I just subcribed to your channel some days ago. So, I'm writing to you cause I would really like you to post a complete video of how you learn greek. I started learning greek 2 months ago for LOVE 💖 ans I would really appreciate you to help me 🙂
    PS : sorry if there is any orthograph errors english isn't my first language. Bye, Pablo 😜

  • @yang7536
    @yang7536 Рік тому

    타냐! 한국어를 배우다니 멋있어요!

  • @johnibat
    @johnibat Рік тому

    Thanks...🙏

  • @MrGurkanify
    @MrGurkanify Рік тому

    hello at 6:46 what is the reina roja ?

  • @nevamarsden9196
    @nevamarsden9196 Рік тому

    Me when I see a fellow Slovak in a foreign video (5:35): "THATS MY GIRL!!"

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  Рік тому +1

      Oh yeah, Lýdia stan here, for sure!

  • @federica4829
    @federica4829 Рік тому

    Hi! 😊 Can anyone tell me who is the youtuber she's watching at 2:54? Thanks!

  • @kejeso8736
    @kejeso8736 Рік тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ТатьянаСергеевна-э9ю

    Можно для ясности узнать, будете ли вы продолжать вести свой канал на русском языке?

    • @tbenavente
      @tbenavente  Рік тому

      Да, как только/если появятся свободные деньги на монтажера

    • @ТатьянаСергеевна-э9ю
      @ТатьянаСергеевна-э9ю Рік тому

      @@tbenavente Спасибо большое за ответ)💚

  • @EnglishwithJoe
    @EnglishwithJoe 5 місяців тому

    You are falling for the same trap that many language learning videos do. There is only one way to acquire a language...listen

  • @mrpakocool
    @mrpakocool Рік тому +1

    As someone with a degree in Language Teaching and a Master’s Degree in Modern Languages (as well as Generalized Anxiety Disorder):
    All language learning advice on UA-cam is BAD

    • @mrpakocool
      @mrpakocool Рік тому

      Sadly, that includes this channel as well

    • @TheFryedIScream
      @TheFryedIScream Рік тому

      !! i’m interested to know what exactly is bad

    • @mrpakocool
      @mrpakocool Рік тому +1

      @@TheFryedIScream I’m generalizing a bit but it’s fair considering all language learning videos have the same problems:
      -there are decades worth of research when it comes to language learning/acquisition and these people either ignore it (and give advice based only on their very limited experience) or find an article/author that resonates with their way of learning and use it to promote a very specific technique that won’t be beneficial for the rest.
      Similarly, when they DO use research to back up what they are saying in their videos, they do it in the most poor way possible. Guess what? To actually know the best way for people to learn something as complex as a language you need to be trained in such field.
      Language teachers struggle to find the right way to teach within their classrooms because there is no “right way” to teach a language all the time, it’s about their needs, their motivations, their backgrounds and a thousand other factors, and these people online just compile a list of 7 tips and share it like that’s super useful

    • @sandrad3346
      @sandrad3346 Рік тому +1

      I think that Tanya made a point in this video of saying that most people making language-learning content videos are not experts and that we should not take their advice as gospel, and that they are giving advice that works for them and not necessarily for everyone else. @@mrpakocool