Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga - 14 Years Later.
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2017
- Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, is one of my personal favorite games of all time. A couple of weeks ago the remake Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser’s Minions was released. I thought this would be a good time to take a look back at the original Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, and to find out whether the game is still fun to play, fourteen years after its release.
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------Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga OST
Teehee Valley
Stardust Field
Bean-Bean Town
Professor Egadd
------Holfix
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HolFix - Beyond the Kingdom
• [Free Music] HolFix - ...
HolFix - Victory
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"Adventure Meme", “Alchemists Tower”
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I think it's the rolling of the 'R' in *"THUNDER"*
Thundarrrr!
Yup.
No it the Italian
Is the emphasis on "THUN"
And then there’s Mario’s “FIYAR!”
'Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga' actually has good world building.
The worldbuilding is amazing. Beanbean feels as detailed as, if not more detailed than, Mushroom Kingdom.
You should make your smm1 and smm2 levels like this{but not the find the beanstar pieces part if you are not making a puzzle level}.
2 years on, and I am still feeling especially thunderr
Almost 3 years now and still feeling especially "THUNDERRR"
5 years later, still feeling especially thunderrrr
I like how the Bro Attacks work. They basically come up with the attack, and once done enough you can do an Advanced Bro. Attacks.
I fell especially THUNDER today, what about you?
EDIT : It seems that 20 people fell especially THUNDER today, glad to know ;D
THUNDER
I am feeling a bit light-n-ing today
I do feel especially HAMMER today.
THUNDER
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I really loved Bowsers Inside Story.
I played a little bit
Cannon cart play more
Milan Vissers I don't have Nintendo hand held any more
I loved the long & challenging minigames
And I'm addicted to destroying everything with green shell and fire flower
Thunderrr
Thunderrr
Now it’s officially impossible for me to not play this game.
Same goes for me.
...The problem is, each time I try to play it, eventually my emulator crashes my computer.
@@theHatted go get the 3ds one then
Or virtual console
@@cyanryann64 ...
Same,
except i just change my mind when i start it!
THUNDERRRR
THUNDERRRR
FIIIIEAH!
FIRE!
Hammar
HIIGH
The Mario and Luigi games?
*Nostalgia overload*
thebahooplamaster did you see that bullet bill with the super scope
THUNDER
For me its BiS
@@62049 ik im late to the party but i just wanna say, my first mario & luigi game was Dream Team.
Superstar Saga was my First Mario game, so yeah....
"You can move toad in 4 directions"
Diagonal controls: "Am I a joke to you?"
3:14 "...that the player probably wants to bang Mario's head against..." FOR THE LAST TIME, CEAVE, MARIO PUNCHES THE BLOCKS!
it seems like he ignores comments when he is busy making another video because he seems to not have learned yet.
Fritz R how about you suck on some salt
Leffe Monette what does that even mean
@@daimienbickerton1480 “suck on some salt” yeah I’ll be taking that line for later use lol!
32:57
> I think a good solution is an optional completely over-the-top final boss
Me: _Rages over the Blood-stained Sanctuary and Ballos_
"personal favorite" Mine too.
"many things better" Yup, especially the Bros. Attacks.
Probably your best video yet. I love your deep analysis of these games... always gives me something new to think about when it comes to game design. Thanks, Ceave.
Ah, so now I finally understand why Luigi says "Thunder!" in every Ceave video he appears in. I've always enjoyed the little voice clips in SS when switching abilities, to the point that I sometimes supply them myself when playing a newer game which doesn't have them. Funnily enough, the "Thunder!" one was also my favorite.
I love the Mario and Luigi games. They have plots that are both funny and sometimes quite epic in scope, the locations are unique for Mario games, and the gameplay is always engaging. My favorite was always Bowser's Inside Story, although I'm not sure if that's just nostalgia or not, since it was my first RPG. Nowadays, it's probably a tie between Inside Story and Partners in Time. The only one I don't unconditionally love is Paper Jam, because it feels incredibly rushed, is not particularly funny, misses the opportunity to capitalize on its theme of crossing over with the Paper Mario games, and every location in it is practically ripped from the New Super Mario Bros. games.
But yeah, that one gripe aside, an amazing series in practically every way. I hope that after the new remake of Bowser's Inside Story, they go on to make a new installment that lives up to the legacy of its past.
Collecting Beanstar Pieces in Superstar Saga: *2-3 hours*
Collecting Ultibed Parts in Dream Team:
*6-7 hours*
Oh my god. This was one of my favorite games. This video made me realize I never played the second act. I just defeated cackletta and stopped, thinking I had beaten the game.
33:28 THUNDERRR (X2)
This reached into the deepest recesses of my mind and pulled out this game that I've forgotten everything about for over 10 years but remember loving.
Mario and Lugi holds a special place in my heart along with the first 3 Paper Mario games. I'm taking a lot of inspiration from them for my next game. Videos about the Mario RPGs and your more general game design videos are super helpful and interesting.
This was really well done. I'd love to see you analyze the other games in the series!
I remember playing bowsers inside story as a kid and i loved it so much. When i replayed it years later i still loved it but i was bother by the amount of unskippable dialogue
I found your channel a couple of day ago and I binged almost all of your videos. I'm definitely subscribing. I can't wait to see what content you post next. Looking forward to it. Cheers!
"boss fight against the wigger"
"if the wigger is attacked it becomes defensive and dangerous"
lmao
"popper" "Cackletter"
ok
Nice video, I liked your explanations about all the unique mechanics in the game. That's a neat theory about the possible cut areas and re-structuring of the game, I hadn't thought about that before, but it makes quite a bit of sense.
I also grew up with this game, and I absolutely love it also! you mentioned that the gameplay is extremely varied, and yes, this is part of what makes it so good, but even within that variation, it's incredibly internally consistent. Everything is about jumping at first, but also about the a button being mario's button and the b button being luigi's. This is true in the battles, attacking, defending, the overworld, and most of the minigames. (for the most part, there are parts where luigi takes the lead and has to be leader and solo leader, so I guess you could say it's about timing the relevant button, which is technically more correct, but less intuitively true, and less the core concept)it's taking the concept to the wonderful extreme and keeps it extremely consistent wthin just about the entirety of the game. That consistency reduces confusion ultimately and keeps you able to do those varied tasks without too much trouble. In addition, great sprites, amazing music, really tight controls, charming world and characters, and interesting bosses, good amounts of exploration and secrets and lots of other contexts where the controls are used in that consistent way. Also, yeah, it's really nice to see the quality of the brotherhood between the two, it displays the actual brotherly love between the two very well pretty much always through dialogue and sprites.
Yeah, upgrading only pow does make it significantly more difficult, especially because of the diminishing returns. It's not too terrible if you have a balanced approach. Except for the final boss, that one's insanely difficult no matter what - well, unless you have a mush badge.
There are some problems that I think are present in this game, but overall, I still love it.
THIS IS A FANTASTIC REVIEW!!!!!!! I love how you talk about the solo parts, and how they're important to make you feel 'empowered' when the brothers are back together. That shows real insight into game design, even after you baited out the boring tutorial bit we all know has to happen, and that it's boring, but that it teaches you. Like, a review shouldn't have to teach us proper tutorial etiquette, but you did it in a way to make it easy to appreciate a tutorial, because the game does the tutorial in a hands-on way.
I’m actually playing through this game right now. I think that it is amazing and charming and that Nintendo could make a Mario and Luigi game but it could be completely 3D. So the overworld could be like a true 3D Mario game, and have HD graphics. Just imagine a Super Mario Odyssey-like game where you play as Mario and Luigi at the same time, and an enemy will battle you. Now, the battles could be the same, but it can be 3D, so you can make Mario and Luigi move left and right while the enemy is attacking you. I really hope that Nintendo does this.
By the way, can you do Zelda videos?
Approaching the halfway point of my quest to watch every single video uploaded by Ceave
28:05. What could have *BEAN* ? Is that just your accent?
Probably because of his german accent.
Im not sure, he also likes puns
Ceave back then: "Shiny coins."
Ceave now: "Deadly coins."
Ceave now (again) Shiny yet deadly coins
The way you feel about the guy saying thunder is how I feel about Sophia saying thunder rings from battle arena toshinden oh, it's just so hypnotizing for some reason LOL
Man I freaking love this game, gotta go play it again. Thanks for reminding of my favourite game of all time!
I also love the *THUNDER* even made a small video of that SE XD
THUNDER
Love this vid, Superstar Saga is one of my favorite games of all time
Awesome video
You gotta make a video on Mario & Luigi Bowser's inside story
14:50 interesting, I would call HooHoo University and Bowser's Castle my favorite areas in the game just due to the amount of enemys. I found the combat system in this game to be amazingly fun.
the way mario just walks out of the shower like "oh hi toad"
You got that pfp from chadtronic?
@@AceTechn0 no i got it from this ua-cam.com/video/MG_e_PSBknA/v-deo.html
I am so lucky to have played this game when I was 8-10 years old. This is one of my all-time favorite video games, and I was very sad when I could no longer find my cartridge.
Watching this video made me realize that this game from 2003 has held up extremely well to this day. I also absolutely loved the music in this game. While I didn't pay close attention to the story, as an adult now, i can appreciate the well crafted story.
This video makes me want to play the game even more!
So I never played the Mario & Luigi games, but I've always wanted to play Superstar Saga. A lot of the points that you made in this video are what make me love Paper Mario so much.
The first Mario and Luigi game I played is Mario and Luigi: paper jam
Mine was Dream Team.
Inside Story for me
Partners In Time is where I’m at
I still play this game all the time on my phone with an emulator. I love whipping it out when I need wait for a bus or something.
I never see anyone mentionning the fact that the music in this game's Bowser Castle is AMAZING, seriously am I the only one who loves it?
25:54 "around Peach's castle" Are you sure about that ? ;p
Loved that analyse, man. Could you please do the other games? That would be awesomely awesome :D
Nice vid :D, the only thing i missed is what they changed/added in the remake
Good job Ceave this vid must have taken forever to make
@Leffe Monette same
I am 20 right now and I’m not super into gaming, but every 5 years or so(only 3 times so far), I will come back to this game. The funny thing is, I just finally beat this game for the first time on an emulator this year :). I told my older sister and we shared great memories of playing this together all night.
I grew up pretty broke and was lucky enough to receive a gba with this game at a yard sale when I turned 5. This is the only game that can really make me cry just due to straight up nostalgia.
When i played superstar saga i fought EVERY ENEMY intentionally for the exp
6:00
Maybe I see badly, but what's wrong with that counter?
oh .......yeah
When I was a kid when I got to the parts were Luigi was separated from mario I always used to take that opportunity to grind luigi way to a much higher level than mario just because I loved luigi so much.
Excellent analysis! it's such a great game, and I was thinking I should analyse it myself, but it turns out you've covered most of it! Then again, there is so much to the game that I can probably find something.
Ah, so that's why you had such low health all the time. Also, did you use the mush badges? they're monstrously OP.
Do you know what the differences the "plus bowser's minions" version that just came out are? I haven't wanted to play it because the art style in the trailers just doesn't look nearly as good as the sprite art to me personally. And I'd have to buy it.
I cant believe i hadnt found this video yet this is my favourite game ever
And i havent even completed it yet. Stuck on last boss :(
I'm feeling very THUNDERrr today!
Every game since Bowser’s Inside Story did have an option boss, and in Bowser’s Inside Story and Paper Jam they were both very challenging. Not to mention that Paper Jam had some pretty tough fights in general. Inside Story even had a second, Super nostalgia based optional boss that give the brothers a new special attack.
I remember playing this as a kid! I don't think I ever finished the game but I defiantly had lots of fun!
Bro I remember the days in 1st grade when it's after school and my mom picks me up and never forgets to bring the gameboy. I played this after school on the ride home and was repeatedly trying to beat bowletta. This and pokemon were my childhood games.
20 years later and Luigi's thunderrr is still amazing
I love this game so much played and beat it multiple times
Can we have this sort of videos also for Paper Mario, Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Bros. 3?
Btw pretty fantastic work!
Grabbing the yoshi fruits to me is great but it would be better earlier in the game or as a side quest. What I mean by earlier in the game is either just before you get the bros hammer moves then once you do get the moves you're like hey when I was collecting those fruits there were a lot of areas I couldn't go maybe now I can. this would also work if the quest happened just before receiving bros hand moves. This quest could also easily fit right after the hooniversity.
I think that the points in this video were mostly spot on. I think that this was the first Mario game I played that shaped my future a lot. I'm sad that I only got to see a small piece of this game but that covers up for the next Mario rpg game that I would play and that is Mario and Luigi: bowsers inside story. that as an amazing game I really hope that he will make a video on that game. one so I can relate to the things that he would say and mostly because I just cant get past the final boss so I'm hoping that if he dose make a video on it he can give a few tips as well. Mario and Luigi games are a huge staple in the Mario franchise relating to the name of the game: super Mario BROS. its incredible how much detail Nintendo puts into there games and I'm really happy that I have something like Mario in my life because if not, then I would be a completely different person. I think that all the Mario games are a huge impact on millions of people and really happy about all of it. that's why I love Mario so much. I better get an A on this because my fingers are tired. ok I'm done now. =] by the way, I played my Mario and Luigi games on my DSI XL. what did you play on? have a nice day. or night. I'm not judging.
"Cackletter" lol
"Superstar Sager"
It's just his accent :P
Lol >.
"Poppers"
I'm dying right now
When ever I replay a Mario and Luigi game, I always make a challenge, and I usually try to defeat ever enemy I see and I can’t run away.
Thanx Ceave
This doesn't even have 1k likes? What the hell, this is a great video, why?
Just re downloaded it for my 3DS still one of my favorites
yeah i used to flip that on and off while walking because of how great that sound effect was.
Ceave, the second reason you were weak at the end of the game. The game rewards you for varying your stats by giving you higher possible rolls, while the ones you roll a lot stay low. Just so you know
Also I agree this is an amazing and underrated game.
I felt incredibly Thunder today, so I hit the subscribe button 😍😜
it's possible to get some really high stat distribution by VARYING what you give bonuses to on level up. choosing the same one over and over shows nothing but 1's and 2's, but by choosing others, you can get 3's, 4's, and even 5's. the final boss was way harder than normal because SO MANY of your stats were lacking. sure, your attack stat was higher than it otherwise would be, but you could have gotten 4 or 5, maybe even all 6 stats nearly as high. not to mention going out and finding beans to use at the coffee shop in order to boost your stats further.
In fairness to the other games, the mechanics take longer to introduce because of the fact that there are more playable characters, most likely. Well, besides Dream Team, but you could treat the Dream Worlds as different as well. In Bowser's Inside Story especially, one of the characters is completely different to the others. Partners in Time gives you 4 total characters which are split into pairs a lot, and Paper Jam's 3rd character creates several other moves, including special attacks. All of this needs learning, and the learning wouldn't happen all at once either. It's bound to take longer. Dream Team still happens to be my favourite despite this.
I'm so glad to see other people who love this game
Tell jaiden animations to review it
FIRE
I never felt like the cut content (if so) in the main story of Superstar Saga is missing. But Bowser's Minions part in the remake I did get that feeling. Despite the feeling, I could see why they had it the way it is in that mode.
I like the little bit of implicit story at the beginning where they introduce the player to the game mechanics. The idea that toads cant jump, while it doesnt remain true in lots of games, is a neat little idea. The thing that makes mario special, that allows him to go on great adventures and save the kingdom over and over, is his mere ability to jump lol. It's so fitting with the game franchise in general
I never played this game, but I'm tempted to go back and do so. Their solution to how boring turn based RPG's can get is brilliant and well crafted, it's a solution on par with the historical importance of games like Chrono Trigger, and should be implemented everwhere it can
M&L SS holds a strong part in my heart, since I only found out about it back 2011,and that's when I got M&L BIS,which I didn't complete,but I spoiled myself everything about it and I don't care,no matter what..All M&L games will still be special in my heart,sure I haven't played M&L PIT,PJ,DT,but I still don't care,these games will hold a VERY special role in my heart no matter if I'm old,young,or teen,it'll still be fun non the less-Metal Lord..
I absolutely adore this game, it is so damn good. One of the biggest appeals for me is the Bros. progression as it's a lot less random than in the other games. Especially the elemental powers, that shit is so cool. While the hammer upgrades may not be the most interesting thing ever, I like them a good deal because they show a visual progression throughout the game: going from shoddy stone hammers to shiny metal ones to finally even shinier gold ones.
I also really dig how the game's story feels like two games with a short period in-between. It's real cool how they basically fit what easily could've been Cackletta's sequel ghost revenge plot into this game. Also I personally don't agree with your theory on the Beanstar pieces:
- The game pretty neatly splits into the two evenly sized Cackletta and Bowletta arcs with the Vacation arc in-between being half that length. I'd say if you split her two arcs in half, the game neatly splits into 5 roughly even sized chunks as well. Having more large sections in the Beanstar pieces quest would bloat that section of the game.
- Joke's End as a Beanstar piece area doesn't make a ton of sense to me as without this area as the penultimate area, Bowser's Castle doesn't make a whole lot of sense story-wise. I'd say the reason they used Jojora is because at this point you're technically working with Cackletta, she has no reason to put obstacles in your way so they needed someone else unaffiliated with her.
Good video, I enjoyed it a great deal!
'Dream Team' had the chance of having the same fluid world as 'SuperStar Saga' did but it is constantly interrupted and breaks pace with the amount of text (this game has the most out of all) and unskippable tutorial, the Dream Worlds also play a part but they're a nice addition so I can't really complain about them. When you look through all of that in my opinion, it's the best out of em' all.
32:24 tip: if cackletta looks up, her arms will as well. if she looks down, JUMP! another tip: 25:59 i know they are easy to find but i read a book in a house in the beanbean castle town, which said that the ground reacts strangely if small people are standing above a yoshi fruit... so make mario small and go look!
(yes, there is actually a house there with four books in the middle of it.)
I felt especially THUNDERRRRR today
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (the original Mario RPG) did feature an insanely tough optional boss, the Final Fantasy inspired Culex. Overall Superstar Saga has always seemed very reminiscent of SMRPG to me.
I finished that game 3 times and that nostalgied me
This and Paper Mario: TTYD are my all-time favourite games. We need more Mario RPGs (with proper stories, good battle systems, memorable characters, etc). But since I love the original so much (and still have it), I've no need for the remake, especially with my fondness for the aesthetically-pleasing old sprites.
This is the video were the voice of Ceave himself, has changed. Hes completed diferent from the 2020 voice!
I miss this voice type... 😌
Mario doesn’t hit his head on the question blocks, he punches them with his fist when he jumps (he isn’t just jumping enthusiastically, his fist goes up for reason)
I just beat this game recently and holy hecc
whilst I tried to have balanced stats for most of the game, the final cackletta fight had me boost ATK as much as possible using everything in my disposal (pins, coffee, dungarees...)
The background song that ceave uses in all his videos is from this game too
Just liked the video!
Ceave, I was just wondering how you liked Paper Mario Color Splash when compared to it's predecessors. Keep up the good work!
Also, am i the only one to know how to dodge Cackletta's arm attack? The hint is the eyes, if the right eye is looking up the right arm is up and if the left eye is looking down the left arm is down
Jumping, Hammering, and Magical Gloving
Thunder!
Ok I'll see myself out
The Mario sprite... Where have I seen that before....?
That's right! Super Mario 63!!!!
Lvl 21... Partners in Time final boss took me literally half a year to beat... Good ol' times!
Luigi saying "Thunder"? You forgot the best sound effect: Mario jumping off a barrel.
HOOHOOHOO
I loved those voice clips. It's a shame AlphaDream didn't keep that.
Mario & LUIGI was the best video games series !
FST TV still is :)
Wilson Rea
Oh, sorry i'm French Thank