What Does the Bible Say About Hell? (Part 2 of 2)
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Do people really burn in hell? Part two of this two-part teaching continues to dispel the doctrinal argument that sinners burn in forever in hell by clearing up difficult scriptures that have been erroneously translated to support that belief.
Verses: Matt. 25:46, 42-43; Mark 9:45, 48; 2 Pet. 2:6
Teacher: John Schoenheit
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hello, I just wanted to tell you: I love your channel! It truly speaks the truth and I have learned so much already, through a few videos. I was raised a christian and still am. But often we overlook things when we have them around us at all times. SO this really opened my eyes to a whole new prospective.
thank you :)
Thank you for this. It seems every part of Christianity I have struggled with are turning out to be false teachings. Many are simply the result of poor translations.
Mat 25:46
46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
(ESV)
these two videos are brilliant :) knowing this makes so much more sense. it just seems to click, and i feel a huge weight has been lifted when i accept it haha. im sure tons of other people will feel the same upon hearing this message. sometimes i think one of them main reasons unbelievers do not want anything to do with the bible or christ is because of this message of hell, they see it as cruel. i also do! i cannot imagine enjoying heaven whilst knowing people are in eternal torment.
The "story" of Lazarus and the rich man is a parable. Even if it is not a parable, it still does not hold much against the rest of scripture
Thank you for clearing this up!
I don't know. It's so easy to interpret scripture two different ways and in both, I see punishment either way. Either hell exists and sinners are kept there until judgement day and then thrown into a lake of fire at the very end or the doctrine of soul sleep is true. Either way, I choose life.
This is truth as much as I don't want to admit it but it's factual and biblical. Thank you
Hell is separation from God
people lie and are deceived, God's Word doesn't.
scriptures say "God mercy lasts forever"...the only thing that is eternal is God' Love..
in the new heavens "there will be no more pain"..and the "former things will not be remembered"..how can God forget the former things if there are millions suffering in some place in His creation ?
millions He died for.
hell is a lie from the enemy, many people are turned off God from believing it.
believe the scriptures before u believe people,
God Bless :)
The word Hell should be taken out completely. It never even existed as a word until recently. Keep it what it should be. Gehenna and Sheol
He's absolutely right about "unquenchable" fire. It does not mean the fire burns forever and ever. In Jeremiah 17:27 God says, "I will kindle an unquenchable fire in the gates of Jerusalem," speaking of the destruction of the city by the Babylonian army. I've been to Jerusalem and I can assure you, there is no gate that is still burning there today!
"Unquenchable" in the bible does not mean the fire burns its subject for all eternity, it means it won't be put out until it fulfills its purpose.
Lecture - Edward Fudge - The Fire That Consumes: A Biblical and Historical Study of Hell
Excellent teaching Brother
Part 1 of 2 If Revelation 20:10 is coming to your mind as an apparent contradiction to what you have heard, thats great-it should. It speaks of the Devil and a couple of his henchman being thrown in the lake of fire and being tormented day and night forever and ever. However, the Bible was not written in English, and when we dig a bit deeper, we see that forever and ever in the Greek is more accurately for ages unto ages. In keeping with Gods decree in Genesis 3:15 that...continued
We Will Never Burn In Hell Forever??.After we burn in the lake of fire it will turns into ashes and the person who burn in hell will be gone. Am I right??
You say there is no hell, I agree with you. You believe that 'unsaved' man is annihilated, I disagree. For instance, in Ezekiel 16:53-55, God clearly states that Sodom will be "returned to their former state". I would consider the idea that we will be punished based on this life, but we will also all be redeemed. BTW: check your translation for "eternal" it means 'of the age' and indicates those who will outlive 'the age', which probably means the old covenant (perhaps 70 AD).
Yes, you're right. The ones who will be thrown into Gehenna are the ones who are judged as unrighteous in the resurrection of the unjust (the second resurrection).
What about revelation that says they shall be tormented day and night
I am confused. You are saying that when we die a physical death, both our body and our soul dies? And we only live again if God resurrects us? But then, some will go into a second death in the lake of fire? Why does God resurrect those He will later annihilate? Aren't only the saved going to be resurrected? And isn't our resurrected body supposed to be immortal?
So there is no hell or eternal punishment for the wicked? Just the punishment of non-existing at the judgement day?
Cheers Bro, I am impressed by the warmth of your spirit and the grace in your words. I agree with all that you said. In Genesis 3:22 God himself prevented Adam from living forever in a fallen state, and will surely also prevent any sinner from living forever in a fallen state in hell.
Please explain Revelations 20:10 please
In the end they get cast into "The Lake of Fire and Brimstone" A Pastors dirty little secret is that the Lake Of Fire in the Greek means Lake of Divine Purification!
Gods fire is a refiners fire! He never changes, and he is not a Liar!
Malachi 3:2
New International Version (NIV)
2 " But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap "
Hell is a pagan myth!
@Spirit &Truth
What's the point of God ressurecting the dead who were unsaved if they would just be destroyed again in the end? Isn't God just wasting his time bringing back to life those whom he reserved for destruction? Why bother resurrecting the ungodly if they had been sentenced to perish? And how can Satan be tormented or made to pay for his sins if he is a spirit? Can a spirit taste punishment through burning in fire? And what about those who were just deceived by the devil and by the false prophets? Is it justice that they perish together with the truly evil when in fact they also want to serve and worrship God, albeit they were offered the Trinity which is a falsse God whom they believed to be the true one?
This is something I feel that God has been trying to tell me for a long time,but my mind keeps going back to the bible and misunderstanding it,let alone the preachers preaching.,but if this is true then why are they so many people who say they have died and went to hell or heaven. And then you have all the people who keep saying that the Holy Spirit has a message for them to tell people,then they go into talking about going hell if they dont cahnge and what will happen to them. Just wondering.
Matthew 12:32 says "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." Doesn't this imply that this age will end but the next one does not? It seems that's what it's saying because speaking against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven.
Is not being destroyed and gone an eternal(forever) punishment?! Gone eternally?!
I believe so. No I know so.
Sound's like ur saying that all Sinner's get the Same Punishment! Adulter vs Serial killer vs Theft vs Tax evader!?? I don't think we'll get off that Easy.... I thought God said we'll be Judged by what we've Done!?? And Where does our Soul Go Then?
Dude I doubt hitler and the like would have a quick death as a simple unbeliever. God is a just judge, we can trust He will make the right decisions and the right sentencing.
They'd all get the same punishment if hell was eternal too. In fact, someone could commit a worse sin and get LESS punishment if he lived and died later in history than another sinner.
I B leave If we know Love and Shear it That is what he want's us to pass on LOVE of Us and what he gave Us the world :)
Like I posted in the first part of this video. Isn't your soul eternal, I've read where it said in hell , they will long for death but death will elude them. So what does that mean?
@MegaNorthMemphis
That story is a parable to explain the importance of not being selfish or greedy. That could also include selfishness with truth. You see some people are rich with Godly wisdom but do not take the time to share with the spiritually poor. They hoard the wisdom for themselves when they could be teaching somebody else about the love of God. Either way we can find comfort knowing that God has not established an eternal torture chamber. God is Love
Logically this makes sense. How can you be eternally happy in heaven with the full knowledge that those you loved might be experiencing eternal torment forever? Yet, what about the rich man and Lazarus? I don't think it was a parable. He wasn't being consumed. I believe that Sheol might be a temporary place for those who are destined for gehenna, in this case the rich man was not in gehenna, but Sheol - a different location. In Sheol, you might be awaiting your destiny of being consumed as part of the judgement of God and be in utter pain and torment, but you are not being destroyed. And paradise (where Lazarus and Abraham were residing), isn't heaven. Sheol = jail, gehenna = prison. In Sheol you have been sentenced; in Gehenna, prison, the sentence is carried out and that is eternal destruction.
Jeffrey Guse I believe that Lazarus and the rich man was a parable, you could check it out on www.helltruth.com, they also talk about the punishment of death and not eternal torment. In Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 you might find an answer about Sheol. There is no conscience in the grave and the grave is a translation of the word Sheol. Maybe I find some more bible verses about that topic. God bless you
So what about all the civilisations in the past who had no idea who Christ was. For example: the Native Americans that existed before the early settlers who never knew Christ. Would they be punished into eternal death for simply not ever knowing Christ? What about tribes that exist on the planet who are so secluded that they have no idea who Christ is. Will they be destroyed because they didn't learn anything about God's word. Or what about people with such horrible mental disorders that it's impossible to know anything? Will they get everlasting death? Or will they be judged fairly?
Thanks for your question!
The answer to your question can be found in the REV commentary on Romans 2:14 which you can find here: www.revisedenglishversion.com/Romans/chapter2/14
God bless!
Hey Judi,
We actually have a video titled "What does the Bible say about Suffering?" If you go to our page you can search our channel and find it. I hope it helps you with this topic.
God bless you!
-Truth
Ok.. so I understood this. Now.. I dont wna mix purgatory with gehena.. I dont rly understand the difrents. But what abou the brown scapular from mary? She says she will save all who are committed on every Saturday? I know purgatory is a word created by the ppl and isnt in the bible but can someone explain this 2 me?
very cool. I think you should run this video under a different title so it will pop up in different searches about hell. I have been made aware of this truth about two years ago, through my studies of the scriptures.(praise Jesus). since that time we have lost all fellowship. Its amazing how much people want to hold on to this wrong doctrine. Its the definition of death that most people try to change to mean separation and not "to end".
hello, can you please send me a link or tell me where I can find the truth of God? I want the honest scripture, and many bibles online are falsely written
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IS A UNITARIAN BIBLE
It's where this guy John
Is from ...
God bless you ...🙏🙏🙏
If you need any help with the Bible ask me
I might be able to help you
I know this is an old video but your audio was way too low and your music was way too high! I need my ears to hear, you know? LoL! :)
Please make a video on the parable of lazarious
So, if he is right, to perish means to cease to exist. What is so horriying about that?
Edwin Holcombe Many people take this attitude, and my first response would be: "Who says it has to be horrible?" , but my second response would be: To be snuffed out like a candle when you could live forever, perhaps with your loved ones all around you and be part of an exciting new future? Can you not see why Yeshua would warn us to avoid that ? Imagine your loved ones going on to a shiny new future, but you having to tell them: "I can't share this future with you. I rejected salvation and must cease to exist".
The horrifying thing is that all the person who are lost will see the people who trusted God before the throne and they will notice they will have everlasting life without pain, suffering and all the bad things and the unsaved will have there place in the lake of fire which is the second death and there last activity forever, so there will be walling and gnashing there Teeth, for not accepting Jesus and putting there faith in him in their life and now seing all the persons who did. I want to be the person who knows that my life now is just really starting in heaven instead of ending
Its not just cease to exist in his explanation. It is also dying a horrible death in fire
I agree with your message, I teach and believe the same thing. also Satan is not in a place under the ground torturing the unsaved, he is in the air the prince of the air.
that is brilliant ..i never thought about it that way
Part 2 of 2 ...Jesus would eventually crush the head of the Devil (that is, destroy him), Ezekiel 28:18 declares that the Devil will be brought to ashes. Apparently, as a fitting recompense for his monstrous evil, this will take a long time.
TruthOrTradition I am surprised that you didn't bring out revelation 20:10 hell was never mentioned Satan and his demons will be tortured forever in sulfur and fire
That would of been a point to get across
@TruthOrTradition What about the rich man and Lazarus? Lazarus was with Abraham in Heaven and the rich man was in hell asking for a drop of water. Please explain. Thanks in advance.
But why did god require such a sacrifice for salvation
hey thanx for these video's! What do you think of Revelations where it says the demons and the devil will be tortured forever and people are thrown into the same fire?
Good work.
what is eternal life do i come back as a new person when i die over and over again until he end of time?
and if so do i keep my memory of my past life?
Well this doctrine is certainly more moral. One question I'd have it why can't an almighty, omnipresent God write a book in which people through all ages would be able to clearly understand?
The fact that your having to do a video series in itself speaks volumes to the clarity of the bible. I say this as a disillusioned Christian.
Why can't a loving God just forgive? Why all the prerequisites?
Because He is Holy.
Ok. We just die? Then why does he create people who don't believe in God? He knows everything right? And he knows whether or not, in the future, if we're going to die. So why does he create the people who are going to die and not be saved?
Believing is a choice
This is said using only sacred scripture? Am i right? But we must also use sacred tradition in our faith, for that is the right way of the Catholic Faith. Please help me, I can't really decided whether to believe this or not.
I'm an Evangelical Catholic.
Hell as told by the Catholic Church is not the eternal flames, rather it is a place of reflection for a last chance to choose the 2nd Life before being thrown into Gehenna at the end of the world.
Thanks man. Was afraid that I was listening to something that wasn't apart of my religion.
@DramaticuhL Would you have died and suffered the punishment for the worst evil 1so that he could be free?
Christ died for us while we were His enemies:
Rom 5:7,8 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Eternal life is a gift offered to you and me. Ask God to help you receive The Lord Jesus while you still have time.
I watched these video's and I have a question. if hell is not real. then how come there's a verse In the bible that says, many will say to me on that day lord lord did we not do good things in ur name, and he will say to them on that day, depart from me worker of iniquity prepared 4 the the devil and his demons
Some people would like this! Man decides to kill people then dies and just stops existing after God judges him and destroys him. This would most likely "be a way out" for sinners. The same way people who go to jail would ask for the death penalty. So they do not have to face their Just sentence.
pachecoking100 remember we will all stand before Him to give an account of our lives at the white throne judgment so no he will not get away with it.
pachecoking100 I don't see anything wrong with that. What good can probably come out from tormenting a criminal forever? What's the point?
God bless everyone and I wish to contribute to a conversation that leaves to clear understanding in all things with a Christian like spirit. For me and my walk, I need there to be an eternal punishment. because if I believe I will just not exist after judgement it makes me feel prideful and entitled to do whatever I please because I just will feel nothing eventually. but to know I will live forever being punished makes me cling to God's word so that I wouldn't stray. And makes his eternal love important and the reason Jesus died for our sins to save us from this punishment.
I really like this one :D
Is there a video that address Jesus's story about the rich man?
i thought lazarus gave an eyewitness acount of hell when he died. that's a metaphor?
Good video but I couldn't find one talking about the sabbath day being saturday, please look into this.
The sabbath is Jesus
+pachecoking100 amen..he is the rest from the law and sin
well it doesn't say the next one wont end
amen
yes, I always wondered how are we going to enjoy eternity if we are aware of people and demons being tormented in fire forever, yuck.
Nikola Sekuloski not people in general the false prophets and Satan an his demons only
he will wipe away you're tears and memory of them.
I've always held the view that whatever Jesus says goes. He is the man, and everything he says is true correct? Explain to me the story of Lazarus and the Rich man please. ( The Ref. i Luke 16:19 onward ). If you follow Jesus but do not take his words literally you aren't really following are you? I dont think that makes sense at all. To pick and choose what you like simply because it makes you feel good isn't a good idea. If Jesus didn't mean what he said, how can we trust him elsewhere?
Sam Barger So, in Yeshua's parable of the sower, the seed that is received in to believer's hearts are literal seeds and the bird's who pick those seeds out are literal birds?
Parable it's a parable
I don't think is true. Then what would be the point of God's JUDGMENT? We get judged according to our deeds. If it is all up to us then that wouldn't make any sense. We have a choice, yes, between life or death, but God is the judge of our choices. So no matter what we think the bible says, leave it up to God. Further, many people would rather die then live, even for eternity, so that doesn't make sense either. Hell IS real, it is to absent from the presence of God, source of all life and love.!
Luke 16 is using "Hades" for hell Not Gehenna! so you have no problem there! Great Job!
Hades in the original Greek, along with the word Sheol means the 'grave.' The place where the dead sleep.
yes i know, you brought up that luke 16, Lazarus and the rich man, verse was difficult to understand but that was a parable of hades and sheol. it was an accurate description Jesus gave of that word. Gehenna is a Totally different thing which you accurately described, according to the scriptures, in your video! thats why i congradulated you! (:
Great Job!
MrPickles Channel i believe Lazarus and the rich man was a parable and not relay taking about a kind of an afterlife in Sheol or hades because the translation of Sheol is grave and in Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 it states that there is no conscience... I would like to share a webside with you www.helltruth.com there is also an explanation about Lazarus and the rich man and about the punishment of death. I think it’s really hard nowadays to find what is really the truth in the Bible because there are so many doctrines it’s unbelievableand many of them can’t be true. I mean there are people who pray to angels, they believe in purification or universalism, which is in my opinion not true but this is not so important I think. We have all the same foundation which is in Christ, this really matters, everything just helps us to understand the glory and the goodness of God and I don’t believe that we have an eternal soul that is able to live without God, because in Roman 11:36 states that nothing exist without his presence or without his will. When God separates himself from us I believe that we will not exist anymore so the penalty of death in the lake of fire is rightous in my eyes. The Bible states that the wages of sin is death. God bless you
He will forgive, if u want to be forgiven...ive talked to people and they just don't want God's Salvation, they love their sin....their proud of their wickedness...God offers us forgiveness of all things through Christ but we have to chose to take it.
its a bad time to be disillusioned!...Jesus is coming for His bride, those who truly believe and are Born Again, we are at the door of the great tribulation!
worry about u and Jesus, drop everything else!
God Bless :)