Better Call Saul - 4x3 Something Beautiful - Group Reaction
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2020
- Nacho gets it bad, Jimmy's making questionable decisions, and vacuum cleaners make the best gifts in Season 4 Episode 3 of Better Call Saul! The Normies discuss and review the episode after the reaction!
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Chuck’s last words to Jimmy were, “You’ve never mattered all that much to me”, invalidating everything that was written in that letter since it was written prior to that. That is why Jimmy seems so nonchalant about his brother’s death.
@Mr.Anonymous I don't want to go into spoilers but yeah it's definitely a defense mechanism. The shoe box he lugs around actually has old family photos in it so he's definitely still thinking of his family if he thought to swipe those on his way out of town. He even kept the shoebox hidden better than his actual money.
Mr.Anonymous well I think it’s both, it’s a defense mechanism and he’s justifying it to himself based on the last thing Chuck said.
@Mr.Anonymous why would Jimmy apologize to chuck. I think Jimmy should not apologize to as what I like to call him chuck the fuck
These guys are just forgetting the last words Chuck ever said to Jimmy. Nothing in this letter said meant anything to him because of Chuck's final words to him.
"You never really mattered all that much to me."
I feel like it’s becoming a common theme for people to just shit all over the protagonist because it’s an aesthetic of Breaking Bad. These characters were never meant to be perfect, but we can still empathize with them without condoning their actions.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Chuck also said to him that he shouldn't show that much emotion or just something along those lines. And Jimmy took that to heart too
Chuck already hurt Jimmy so deeply with his last words, and there's no penance that Jimmy could ever offer to get any love back. Plus when Howard was saying, "It never occurred to me that I could hurt [Chuck], he always seemed so strong," it's like it should've been Jimmy who said that stuff, except for what came between them.
@@burstingturtle Even if his actions are THAT questionables?
Socђi No, it literally means that not everything the dude does is the work of the fucking devil. Fans keep turning Vince Gilligan’s work into a dumb people show by always assuming the main character has malicious intent and how people like Chuck and GUS FUCKING FRING are completely free of sin.
Chuck's last words to Jimmy was "truth is, you've never matterd all that much to me" so no surprise that Jimmy does not care about this letter.
Chuck said that after he was really angry at Jimmy, so he might not have been serious. Chuck wrote the letter long before the trial, so Chuck's letter could invalidate his last words.
@@checkmate5338 Either way it’s still fucked up that he said that after everything Jimmy did for his older brother
@@checkmate5338 I don’t give a shit. When I’m angry at someone I care about, the last thing I’m going to tell someone is that they never mattered to me. Chuck is a bonafide piece of garbage.
@@checkmate5338 also adding to that Chuck did try and sabotage Jimmy's career so the last line "not only as your brother but someone who is always at your corner" really has no meaning to Jimmy at all
@@checkmate5338 Did Chuck say "You're just a chimp with a machine gun" to Jimmy when he was angry? So only Chuck's feelings matter and not Jimmy's?
The letter was likely written some time after Jimmy got out of jail and started his job in the mail room. At that point everything Chuck wrote was probably true. It was when Jimmy aspired to be more, to dabble in what Chuck considered sacred, that all the trouble started. In Chuck's eyes Jimmy was good enough for the mail room, but not good enough for the law. Chuck likely simply never bothered to update the letter.
exactly. and Jimmy knew this, which is probably why he wasn't at all emotional about the letter because why would he be emotional about a letter that Chuck never bothered to update after all those years?
He also chose not to tell Jimmy that his mother called for him before she died. That had to be on his mind when he wrote this. It takes some deep hate to not tell the truth in a letter like that.
The guy you guys thought looked familiar was in Breaking Bad, he was Ira, the owner of Vamonos Pest
shit I never made the connection
yeah Saul also mentioned that they were thieves
Correct.
That guy that Jimmy saved from being caught was one of the exterminators from Breaking Bad. Todd worked for him.
Ezra
@@jonontube Ira
Did they forget the last 3 season and what chuck did to jimmy especially his last words to jimmy?
i'm not saying jimmy is innocent but they're treating him like he's the devil
Yeah, all the characters in this universe are neither all good or bad.
@@MacGuffinExMachina except Walter jr. he just wants breakfast and chill
Nacho didn't poison Hector. He replaced his heart medicine with ibuprofen, and that allowed him to have a stroke.
Not sugar pills, but the same brand of capsule as Hector's medicine with ground-up Ibuprofen in them. Ibuprofen is bad for people with heart conditions.
@@2wingo not only that, if Hector had heart problems he was probably on blood thinners and once you take blood thinners you have to keep taking them for the rest of your life or you'll have major heart failure within a month more or less after you stop taking them. The Ibuprofen is just icing on the cake.
17:23 Bear in mind the context when judging Jimmy's reaction to Chuck's letter.
The letter came from a man who told Jimmy to his face that he never cared much about him.
"I gather you know where to find a Bavarian boy" - Mike Ehrmantrout.
I can understand Jimmy not caring at all about those words. at least right now, maybe in the future he could take them to heart. The fact that Jimmy noticed it wasn’t dated meant something. The last words that came out of Chucks mouth....,”To be honest, I never really cared all that much for you” Overshadows ANYHTING that Chuck could have written. Think about it, it’s like when your spouse says shit when they are drunk and then tries to deny and and talk their way out of it, however you know what they said was truly how they felt. That’s how Jimmy sees Chuck’s last words, those were his true feelings 😢
I think your right, but when it comes to if those last words were his true feelings i always get conflicted because of that last look that Chuck gives when Jimmy shuts the door.
Socђi maybe, he could have been trying to make the detachment easier in some way
That title lol
Holy shit just noticed that lol
Hahahaha
Wtf how was this typed a month ago??
@@ScooterSkillsYolo magic
@@ScooterSkillsYolo early access through patreon.
I see they put their video tags by accident in the title lol
Poor guys. Must be busy af
It’s not his way of dealing with it. He’s literally choosing not to deal with it. Don’t condescendingly assume you know how he’s feeling and that it’s just his way of grieving. He’s over Chuck entirely. He feels betrayed, and his closure was taking his brothers last words to him as advice. Stop caring, stop apologizing, just embrace that fact the you hurt people.
"Don't condescendingly assume". These are fictional characters in a tv series lol. The whole point of analysis and discussion is to talk about the characters and making inferences as to why they're acting the way they are. Sure, their analysis was wrong, but there's nothing "condescending" about it.
@@eugger3011 it was condescending in the way they were talking about. In the end it's a tv show like you said so why are they getting their panties in a bunch over it?
@@insiddious I haven't seen this video in 10 months so i don't even remember how they were acting but tv shows bring out emotions in people. The reason OP is overreacting is because he's acting as if the characters in the show are real people. If they were real people, then it would mak sense to call the Normies condescending, since you shouldn't make deep assumptions about real people like this. But they're not.
@@eugger3011are you fine dckriding the Normies tho? They're being condescending. Buncha more ons.
Horses, not zebras. If someone has a bullet in their skull maybe don't spend time looking for signs of asphyxiation
Not exactly forensics experts, the twins
The whole take on Jimmy's reaction to Chuck's death astounds me. What Chuck said to him at their last meeting completely invalidates whatever he was feeling at the time he wrote that letter. It's like you guys completely forgot that last encounter between the 2 brothers and went completely 180! WTF?
I honestly cannot make up my mind about Chuck bc he is such a complex character (like many others in BCS). On one hand I feel very bad for him because of his mental illnes and how he had to be the one saving Jimmy from all the troubles and seeing him turn into one of those scammers who ripped off their father was probably hearbreaking.
From the other side Chuck loved (tolerated?) his own brother as long as he fitted into his own vision. He put Jimmy in the mailroom to live a quite and safe life and never believed he could amount to anything greater. Maybe Jimmy did get his degree from noname uni but he still managed to pass the bar while working full-time and Chuck for some reason could not put respect on that. He put law above his blood and for that he was wrong. He never truly gave him a chance to become someone else.
Is really hard and complex, i will never forgive my brother if he someday steal from my parents for exemple, also Chuck is the perfect boy, he is hardworker and a excellent child while Jimmy not so much however the parents and people like Jimmy more and chuck dont like that and we can understad why. Jimmy is a scam
Which is why it's brilliant. Neither side is completely right or wrong. A big reason why Jimmy is the way he is- is in fact because of the relationship with his brother. Chuck never gave Jimmy a chance to prove that he wasn't Slippin' Jimmy, he always rode him off even when he accomplished something of value while doing it the clean way. However, Jimmy had made numerous bad decisions on his own and ended up hurting Chuck more than Chuck ever did to him. Both of them are to blame for their tragic relationship. It's amazing how the writers created that storyline. If they would've been good to each other, Chuck never dies and Jimmy never becomes Saul. Amazing.
The problem with Chuck's notion of Jimmy stealing from the shop is that he doesn't seem to be aware that it was most likely pretty minor compared to how much their dad gave as handouts. Chuck also has a massive problem with thinking Jimmy can't change, but Jimmy manages to do really surprising things when he's properly motivated. Both of these problems are rooted in treating facts as stable and unchangeable things, and Chuck underestimates anything with a changeable nature. He underestimated how his insistence on a specific interpretation of the cassette recording would come off in court, he underestimated how quickly he could become unhinged when facts seemed to betray him, and fatally, he underestimated Jimmy, whose nature changes to whichever way the wind is blowing.
I know plenty of mentally ill people that can say sorry.
That's something that chuck never did for jimmy. Mental illness is not am excuse for being an a hole
Agreed, but my biggest issue with him is that I can’t see telling your brother “you never really mattered that much to me”. Especially when he took care of you while dealing with your mental illness
I swear they forget so much. Chucks final words to Jimmy was that he didn’t even care about him. So that’s helped him with the grief massively
Its hard to take everything in on first viewing.
I don't think you guys have ever experienced grief
"Group Reaction React Reacting"
Who would've thunk it?
The last thing Chuck ever said to Jimmy was you never really meant anything to me you lot have got short memories lol.
I can't believe the big debate point about this episode was the vacuum cleaner
"Who's gonna use it more?" said Pat, sitting next to a bro
Admittedly Nahid didn't make a much better case, but still
By the way, can I just say how much I appreciate that you guys refer to him as Jimmy! That's great, you finally got around on it!
You don't buy your partner a great vacuum, you buy the house a great vacuum. It doesn't count as a personal gift
It's like telling her "Go clean, woman!" How do people think that's a good gift?
Absolutely dead @ Suraj rapping Big Tymerz "Still Fly" on that shot of the twins boots lmao 🤣
A gift is something you should enjoy. Something you'd want and like. A vacuum is not that.
Some people want vacuums
@@GameGroep I want a new one, too - but it's a tool. Not something for a hobby or whatever.
kuhpunkt so what? A gift is a gift
kuhpunkt im a guy bro wtf are u on about
@@GameGroep I put quotes around the statement. Not hard to understand.
He is burying his emotions he is reading the letter like a teleprompter he's not actually thinking about what the words are. He's in denial HE IS ABSOLUTELY NOT JUST REMORSELESS. These characters are not just surface level you gotta think a little deeper
If Suraj is serious about learning Tom Lehrer's Elements Song, here's a link to a video that has the lyrics scrolling as Lehrer sings it: ua-cam.com/video/U2cfju6GTNs/v-deo.html
It's an old song -- it was written in 1959 -- so a number of elements now on the Periodic Table aren't mentioned (but that's covered by the final verse)
I’ve mentioned my amazon wishlist to my husband in the run up to the last four or five gift giving occasions. He’s not taking the hint lol
I always viewed the letter as Chuck wanting to continue to look good to everyone after death. A polite concise letter that likely had bits of truth to it. However to me Chuck's honesty was in telling Jimmy he didn't matter at all to him. To me it's Chuck just writing what he would consider a polite after death letter. If I was told I never mattered to someone to me that's fine your dead to me to. Wouldn't bat an eye at their death news.
There needs to be just one intelligent person to join in these reactions just so whenever one of them says something asinine (which has to be at least once a minute) there’s someone to go “wtf are you talking about?” Usually Chris is the closest thing to that, but on reactions he’s not a part of there’s really no one to call out all the dumb shit that is uttered.
Yeah, some things they say are downright dumb. This group is like Twitter, shit’s an echo chamber.
I think the video tags might’ve replaced the title
The song that Gale is singing is Tom Lehrer's The Elements.
It took exactly 54 seconds before Nahid had to lay out some hard truths again lol
Chuck wrote the letter when Jimmy was still in the mail room...
I love how so many iconic moments happened this episode and the biggest topic during the discussion was whether the owner should or should not have bought his wife a vacuum 😂
Suraj singing Big Tymers LMFAO
My physics teacher loved that elements song, lol.
10:07 lmao great strategy, I'm sure the cartel HR department would sort that out real peaceful like.
You do realize what Chucks actual last words to him were that's why he is reading it like that. He told him he never meant anything to him at all.
the only thing i can think about the vacuum.... is... did he buy it from the disappearer guy?
This is the first in a series of "Something _____" titled episodes. Hold onto your butts.
I'm on Pat's side! I have Dyson vacuum at home and it's amazing, if someone gifted me that I'd be happy :D
You must love to clean
@@kokosnoot100 Haha yea I guess, I love to have everything looking neat and clean.
But honestly having a really nice portable vacuum makes you clean a bit here and there since it's so quick to take out and use, so couple minutes each day gives you pretty clean place and isn't as annoying to upkeep :D (sry for the vacuum ad)
@@Quzga haha yeah no I get it a good vacuum is really helpful. But it's not a birthday gift in my opinion
@@kokosnoot100 Haha yea I certainly wouldn't gift it to someone randomly, would be a risky move !
@@kokosnoot100 lol its still not an excuse to kick yur significant other out of the house
A thing I noticed about Nacho's fake car placement. Nacho got shot in the shoulder while looking back the same way Hank did when he was fighting the twins. Also the twins finds this fake car scene as well
Foreshadowing or is it rearshadowing
“That was a song for a very niche audience”. You’re goddamn right.
I was admiring the work ethic and talent of the actor for being able to memorize and sing that song for his one scene so far on this show.
There's no autopsies in the desert.
The worst part of the situation with the office guy in the dog house because he got his a vacuum was because he thought a big cheese wheel was a better gift. Send some flowers, jewlery dude.
Chuck wrote that letter when Jimmy was in the mailroom. It was not recent.
All them tags in the title lol.
I love Mickey’s reactions without a hat, you can see his reactions better
this title XD isn't there something where youtube resets your video's footprint if you change the title after uploading? might have to stay lmao. keep up the great work during quarantine guys!
4:50 cartoon network laugh :O
Why is there a spoiler in the title of the video?
what on earth happened with the title
What do you guys think, is it a reach to think that she rewrote the letter cuz the original one was too brutal for Saul?
I like how The Veterinarian is a GTA character.
What a title
I remember the Simpsons when Homer bought Marge a bowling ball
getting a vacuum as a gift would really suck😛
the real life south park crew here........pat is cartman
14:28 Are we gonna talk about how somebody thought Gale was Walt? I don’t even know how you’d get it confused, Gus didn’t meet Walt until BB. I know it’s a couple year old video but I don’t know how you’d get that confused.
nice title
I don't think you guys did the title correctly lol
of course rana wouldn't want a vacuum
I think the year is 2005 now.
Idk if you guys read the comment section but there's this you can react to (it's short though): ua-cam.com/video/KSOzeeoVQOY/v-deo.html
Does no one remember Chuck and Jimmy's last conversation? Does no one remember Chuck telling Jimmy that he never meant that much to him? Jimmy didn't have any emotions for Chuck's words in part because he didn't believe them and because Jimmy is just done with Chuck in every way. He just wants to put Chuck and his relationship to him behind him completely and be done with Chuck. Chuck always had a strong impact on Jimmy so when Chuck said Jimmy didn't mean that much to him Jimmy decided to feel the same way for Chuck.
The guy who robbed the office is the guy who ran the exterminator/break in crew in Breaking Bad.
Stop assuming you know what's going to happen.
That letter and that money meant about as much as paying off that card. Who knows when Chuck wrote that, but what we know for certain is that Chuck hated everything about Jimmy and went out of his way to tear him and the people around him down for the sake of his own principles despite everything Jimmy has done for him. He didnt want Jimmy to be part of the Sandpiper trial, he didnt want Kim to get Mesa Verde. He did them dirty but within legal bounds, so he thinks hes the good guy.
jimmy does take corners and plays with the law. that’s why he’s where he’s at post breaking bad, so ultimately chuck was right lmao
If Chuck’s dumbass didn’t push Jimmy away none of this would’ve happened. It was a monster of his own making.
Suraj is something beautiful
The fuck is up with that video title yo!
The point here is that even if the relationship between him and his brother was fucked up, and Chuck told him before killing himself '' you never mattered all that much to me'', a letter like that should make Jimmy a little emotional, every normal person should be a little sorry for what happened. But Jimmy shows zero emotion, zero compassion, and if you think about it everyone shows compassion in this episode, everyone except Jimmy. Mike shows compassion (I'm sorry about your brother), Kevin of Mesa Verde shows compassion towards Chuck and Jimmy talking to Kim, even the cousins show compassion to Nacho saving him and giving him blood. But not Jimmy, and this shows he's changed a lot:before Chuck's death everybody, Chuck included, described Jimmy as a person with a very good heart, that couldn't help but doing wrong things, thinking he is doing it for good reasons. But now he shows no emotion, no remorse, and Kim doesn't recognize him anymore, that is why she broke up.
I'm guessing they're going to bring back Hannah for season 5 reactions.
I think Kim wrote the letter and kept the real one, that is part of the reason why she is crying.
I think she's crying because she empathizes with Jimmy a lot. Not for any other particular reason
No one can read minds. Never mind how long you know one, you can't read minds. No one should expect anyone to read minds or to know what one knows. Also the more personal a gift is, the more personal it is. A vacuum as a gift is incredibly unpersonal and may imply that vacuuming is solely the job of the recipient. Also the woman acted butthurt, didn't communicate at all and threw him out. Also he let that happen.
Wrongs on both sides due to a lack of communication I'd claim.
Would've loved to hear the rest of your slightly heated discussion :)
I think Jimmy just didn't believe a word of the letter. Like, if you really felt that way, Chuck, why didn't you let me know when you were alive? I think he's just done. Also, "I'll pay off my Mastercard" was saying that he knew he wasn't gonna be left anything worthwhile, and the amount, like Kim said in a previous episode, was what you leave someone when you don't want to leave someone anything, but you don't want it contested. He's far from perfect, but I think you guys are being hard on Jimmy. Just my 2¢
🧹 a gift for Rana with love.
If I had to pick , Mickys hair is the suspect
Bruh chuck wrote bullshit in that letter lmao. It’s like you forgot what chuck has been doing to jimmy and what chucks last words to him were.
I guess the Bavarian Boy is not the only German in this series😏
Micky looking like Jesus
Reading these comments, and it seems like everyone seems to think Chuck wrote this letter.
Based on the conveyance of the scene and Kim's emotional reaction where it seems to me she's reacting out of guilt, it _always_ read to me as Kim forging the letter to spare Jimmy of the _real_ final blow letter that Howard handed her. She said explicitly that she couldn't do that to Jimmy, so I always took it that she chose to lie to Jimmy rather than have him be hurt by the truth and let Chuck get one last win beyond the grave.
There are very few points in which Chuck would write those exact words in earnest, and I just don't buy that it was him.
Especially in later episodes where the letter comes up again, and Kim looks explicitly concerned, I always thought it meant that she forged it herself.
Am I completely crazy here?
I think the only reason I think this isn't the case is that I would put this past Kim. I don't think Kim would forge a letter to save Jimmy from Chuck's final blow. She broke down because she just empathizes with Jimmy a lot.
Am I missing something? As far as I remember, Nacho was shot once in the shoulder, and once in the gut. Yet, when he's getting operated on by the vet, there's a bullet in his shoulder, one in his gut, and another on his side near the one in his gut.
Exit wound from the second shot
Where is Death Note reaction ?
Look a vacuum is a shitty gift, but it ain't worth kicking him out of his house, lmao.
And we don't even know if it was like a random gift, or for her birthday, or for their anniversary, or whatever. If it was just like a random gift I feel like it's lame but really not a big deal. If it was a special occasion then yeah it's pretty pathetic but come on, doesn't justify kicking someone out.
LMAO, what's up with that title
so he is not allowed to pay of his mastercard? what should he say? that he should get the normies some film class lessons?
He can have no reaction to the letter because he already knew it was bullshit.
Chuck never appreaciated jimmy in real and said things in letter after he was gone.... m sorry but that does not count because that only shows that chuck took his life for nothing but he was me tally not ok... he had not shown any respect for jimmy and always judged him....
Wtf is that title hahah
Chuck didn't write that letter.
You can't assume that Chuck's last words to Jimmy represented the way he actually felt. I think he was distancing himself from his brother,knowing what he was planning on doing to himself. Just my opinion of course :)
Chuck didn't start relapsing until after his conversation with Jimmy.
LOL What is with this title?
When u faced the real shit sweet words don't matter....in time ur heart became stone cold...sometimes even for the persons u loved most and they continuously betray it....so i am here supporting jimmy....But there is another thing, most of the times chuck is definitely right about jimmy....But some action of him during that last 5-10 years of periods wrt the response or action towards his achievements were not even bad(its worst)....But chuck is a fucking brilliant character of this show
Ok, so I see many comments hanging onto the last words of Chuck to explain why Saul doesnt care about the letter...well first off we should all know what he said wasnt really true. Chuck was just done with the whole slippin Jimmy thing at this point and said something that as the audience we absolutely know was a lie because of how he regressed in his condition after he said it, and Jimmy should have realized too. Especially after killing himself shortly after, would you continue to take seriously something someone said to you shortly before they kill themself when you find out they were obviously in some kind of emotional distress at the time they said it. On top of that, finding out that very emotional distress which lead to his brothers death was caused by the insurance scheme Jimmy cooked up himself. Pretty cold to know your brother was sick and you helped push him over the edge in the end to his death and have no emotions over it.
Everyone is quoting one line from Chuck's final words, but are forgetting the final lesson Chuck gave Jimmy (which he took very much to heart):
"I don't doubt your emotions are real. But what's the point of all the sad faces and the gnashing of teeth? If you're not going to change your behavior, and you won't...[w]hy don't you skip the whole exercise? In the end, you're going to hurt everyone around you. You can't help it. So stop apologizing and accept it. Embrace it. Frankly, I'd have more respect for you if you did."
Chuck’s letter seems to have been written a couple of years ago, and a lot of shit has happened between the brothers in that time. So, I get why Jimmy gave zero fucks about its content.
Do these guys forget past seasons and episodes? Do they not remember the LAST THING CHUCK SAID TO JIMMY??!?!?!?!?!?!?
The letter means nothing because it was insincere, the words in the letter do not match the actions Chuck took while he was alive.
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