Mike Mangini Talks Playing Mike Portnoy's Parts on the Images and Words Tour (Rockstars In Cars)
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2018
- Mike Mangini talks about playing Mike Portnoy's parts on the Dream Theater Images and Words tour.
Mike Mangini: Rockstars In Cars (visiting Cosmo Music) Web Series,
Episode 6 of 13.
We picked up drum legend Mike Mangini of Steve Vai, Annihilator, Extreme, and Dream Theater fame from his hotel downtown and drove him up to Cosmo Music. We talked a whole lot of drums, feuded over hockey, and had a surprise street-side moment on the way.
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Mike Mangini (front passenger)
Mark Hebert, CEO Cosmo Music (driver)
Paul Luis, Cosmo Music (back behind front passenger)
Neil Shukla, Cosmo Music (back behind driver)
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Recorded en route to Cosmo Music on November 11, 2017.
ABOUT MIKE MANGINI
Before his time with Dream Theater, Mike Mangini has built up quite the impressive drummer's resume. Mike was a former faculty member at the Berklee College of Music, has also played for bands and artists such as Steve Vai, Annihilator, Extreme, and James LaBrie, and has set five World's Fastest Drummer records.
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Been a DT fan since MP days, and I saw their Images and Words tour with MM. I'm amazed at his playing to be honest. You should go check them out live if you haven't.
It's a simple process...first get my hair to look like Cher's...then get to the music :). Mike Mangini has a very procedural and methodical approach to music that makes him the best teacher of drums I've ever found when it comes to demystifying things but that also takes all the mystery away, and with it, the fun. Thanks to him I was able to play 3 over 2 in 1/2 hour. Total opposite of Portnoy. The ultimate technician , completely set to serve the rest of the band....as an employee, or that's the impression. If you watched the documentary Hired Gun...that's the situation he's in. He makes sure he transmits that in what he says every time he talks about DT.
Yeah, this man is a hired mercenary with a very compatible personality to Dream Theater's current comfort. Portnoy brought them that slight unfamiliarity and uncomfort that would help them work and break through their own mundane shells.
Jason Davila , you are so right
nah. every dream theater album sounds likes too mechanical, and the same. i just bought the first album with Mangini (tho drums were already laid for him). The album after...and the rest sounds the same.
What this man has done since joining DT is absolutely amazing imo...Portnoy is 1 of the GOAT's and Mangini just flawlessly stepped right in and performed like a BOSS. Serious chops, serious talent that imo is unmatched in the prog world. Thank you Mike for continuing the Dream!!
Love this guy
I instantly love listening to a person when he starts using onomatopeic words. Pshh! kahh! Tss!
I heard no such thing, probably due to Mangini's head being so lodged up his ass if he thinks he's even a quarter notes worth of talented in comparison to MP
@@td0ubl3ccornwallis8 Wow. So many things wrong with that comment
An adhd drummer influence lol..amazing guy..very systematic and analytical thinking. Love it
Two legends of music. Two fantastic drummers.
GigiTB Drummer Mike Portnoy is A mix of technical and Feel in his drumming and Mike Mangini is more of a technical drummer.
I agree. I don't play drums but both sound fantastic to me.
Exactly.
@@Vulkanzed-117 - Mangini has a different feel. He's not so behind the beat. He changes it according to the music. No one seems to hear the slower songs he did on ADOTE where he's playing so beautifully.
It is interesting to hear his thoughts on where HE chooses to change things (I get the band asking him to change things is not his decision)
Interesting to hear him taking about trying to dig into the concept of "feel" over the last few years. His biggest criticism from DT fans is that he sounds too robotic, so I'm glad he's trying to correct that.
- That's an ad hominem Portnoy fanboys use as a strawman to take a swing at Mangini, because they can't factually argue that Portnoy is "better".
It's a disgrace. Mangini doesn't deserve that.
@@danlc95 I agree somewhat. Mangini had just as good of a feel as Portnoy when he started with DT. But his feel does sound better on the newer DT albums. So it's true that Portnoy fanboys were wrong, but it's also true that Mangini was weak in that department and that he improved, and hopefully continues to improve.
Mangini has been having the time of his life, and is a super nice guy. He's part of Berklee's faculty. Yet tons of people say he sucks.
Humanity is just so kind.
Go cry over your keyboard and in your practice space, simply because you're butthurt...still. These guys (both Mangini and Portnoy) make the music. You don't. Cry some more.
Ben Bond I don’t get why people say that. Why can’t people just enjoy Mangini- and if they don’t, find another band to listen to. It just seems weird to me that “Portnoy fans” comment on all new dream theater saying Mangini is bad.
Tons of people have no clue how to assess drumming, both on a technical level and aesthetically. Anyone who thinks MP is better is totally clueless, I'm sorry. It's not even a serious argument.
@@jamowiththebanger8164 The only rational explanation is that the Portnoy fans are hurt. They loved him, he represents DT in their hearts and they allow themselves to be fooled by their emotions. Total denial.
Matt Markus i get that. I miss him too, but I’d feel bad shitting on a great drummer for something out of my control
@@jamowiththebanger8164 I know, especially a nice guy. Portnoy was cocky and that always irked me, since there are so many drummers out there how far exceed his abilities.
All these replies debating Portnoy vs. Hanging are meaningless. Just enjoy the band's music for what it is. As far as these 2 guy's abilities, they are both amazing players that brought (Portnoy), and bring (Mangini) their own unique styles to Dream Theaters music.😊
But the problem is, we can't really enjoy DT like we used to man..
@@BlackAdder747 Well, You don't. Others can...
@@BlackAdder747 - Some of us enjoy it more since 2010.
Old is Gold Bro.Mangine
I could listen to Mangini talk for hours what a wizard!
I’d reeeeeeaallyy like to know which part of DEN Jordan asked him about 🤔🤔🤔🤔. I gotta hear this. Time to search!
the intro music to the video - what is this?
I think Mangini is between a rock and a hard place. Some say he sounds like a drum machine if he plays stuff verbatim but then others complain if he changes things then hes not being true to the source material. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Only fix I can think of is play with more passion and less robotic but stick to the source material when appropriate but also have some fun experimentation when applicable. I think that's how you might be able to please mostly everyone, but its a tight rope to walk.
But he doesn't sound robotic.
He should imitate portnoy. He should sing, then make introduce inconsistencies in his drumming. Act like a typical rock drummer.
I’d love to have heard that jazz gig he took.
Cool explanation
1:39 Those people in that car can’t imagine what is the subject in this car😅
Tesla Model X?
Please fix drum and snare sound
Mangini = Mammon
Portnoy = MASTER OF DRUM
Did you say ZBT?
What song is playin during the intro and outro?
"My Last Farewell" from DT's The Astonishing
Dark eternal night is perfect just the way it is thanks.....leave it!
"What i need to play lefty and righty"--that is Mike M in a nutshell based on his own system...no other drummer thinks like this...this is the negative about Mike...his SYSTEM--he is locked into which is very academic and engineer like...super bright guy...
Negative for you but not for others. He cant please all
Since I'm not a drummer I have no idea what he is talking about - Lol! But I do know he is one of the best drummers in the world!👍
What was that Rudess statement during the replacement process where he said, we've played these songs a thousand times and you can't change the songs, putting your own spin on things. B.S.
When it’s your song, it’s what ever you imagined it to be... Portnoy may have pushed his vision of the drum track a bit too hard for Rudess liking...
Hey, 3:37 Anybody knows what that song is? Please answer.
"My Last Farewell" from their latest album The Astonishing
Thanks, dude
I don't understand the complains here, Portnoy constantly changed his own parts live, and a lot, so who cares anyway? Petrucci also changes his solos constantly, and Rudess too, even more. Some people say it's bad, others say improv is cool. No one is going to be happy, well, I am,cause I like DT with or without MP, I guess it's a win for me.
a huge win
Thank you some positivity!!!
Nobody really gives a shit whether Mangini plays a part exactly like Portnoy or changes it up a bit. He should change it up really, that's half the fun of live performances. The problem is that when he does change stuff up, he doesn't do it an interesting way. His drumming has no character. IMO.
Mangini has a great attitude as well as great aptitude toward what he plays when he figures out Portnoys parts....in another words: there really is no points in being a dick about the same parts that Mangini learns from Portnoy...they are part of a partciular song and Mangini gets that....as any professional drummer would know...there is NOTHING wrong with that...
*lifts right hand*
Well it's as simple as this...Portnoy written the drums for the best album ever in
progressive metal Images&Words a pioneer ahead of his time,drums for Metropolis,Under A Glass Moon,Take The Time,Surrounded...what Mangini or any Mangini likes or dislikes is irrelevant at this time after 25 years...I would like to see Mangini and DT laying out something similar now...which is impossible their music is nowhere close to that level and it's not the technique but the "feeling and soul".A drummer sounding like a drum machine cannot bring that back to this band that's what most people don't understand.
Now if only Loudwire would have the balls to say what you just did...…………..well said
Indeed, very well said
They just may have.
I thought Rob Halford behind there with Mangini.
mm is an amazing Drummer but mike portnoy is the best drummer in metal rock prog etc.love em both
Both amazing in their own right!
Phenomenal drummer, composer and all around great guy. He just talks too much and over explains everything.
No Bobby Blotzer = no Dream Theater.
alguém legenda isso pra mim
Melhor não, dá raiva escutar esse cara
Portnoy is superiour.
😆
He’s so analytical he forgets to actually feel the music. Portnoy was spontaneous and creative because he got out of his own head. Mangini should give that a shot.
Brandon Hagler: Mike plays and has kept this gig. That speaks volumes.
Nick Costa the last two albums speak volumes about how shitty the band has gotten without Portnoy...
Brandon Hagler : If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Or better yet, go out and do something better yourself.
Nick Costa good advice! Maybe I should even have my Dream Theater tattoo removed? Any other advice? 😂
A craniorectotomy might help.
"too doo poo poo caas"
This guy is a great drummer, in every aspect - just as a prosthetic leg might be even more efficient in some aspects than the real thing, you know where I am going, JUST A DRUMMER... Portnoy was not only a part of DT, he was in big part what made Dream Theater, well... Dream Theater - from song writing production etc... such a f*&^% shame man. I stopped buying albums after Black Clouds... we can't expect DT to come up ever agian with something like Octavarium, Metro I or Scenes..
BTW, did I misunderstood or he just said some MP's fills feel rushed? Is Mangini talking feeling? LMAO
It's been so many years... If you put all those feelings aside (which literally all of us have had), and try and appreciate their new stuff for what it is, it is possible and it's really good stuff...
@Wednesday Funny how my comment is a year old, and after Distance Over Time I came to appreciate Mangini a lot more, he is an amazing drummer, yet I do stand behind the fact that Portnoy added other things to DT in general - he is a different type of musician altogether. It is great to see how John P. and Jordan R. are still playing with Mike Portnoy in very awesome side projects like Terminal Velocity and the new LTE iteration.
@@fergeraci - Give A View From The Top Of The World a listen. He's on fire!
Why do I get a Tommy Wisseau vibe
How can you not like a guy like that?
Not dislike him personally. His drumming just sounds bad.
@@DrummerRF - He sounds fantastic.
Rudess fixing what Portnoy broke after his exit is funny... lol... “I have always heard this when I wrote my song.... could you maybe try that instead please?... “
Nuno-Bettencourt... the feel master... telling Mangini how to feel his fills... no wonder Mss as Mangini doesn’t go fill crazy most times
translate to Indonesian please....
lefty righty. mp did something righty with winery dogs. simple kit, no thinking just playing. too many options will kill the spontanity ....
ZBT hi-hats? Why is Mangini playing Zildjian's bottom of the barrel cymbals?
He wanted a brighter tone. They are brighter than the B20 stuff from the A and K lines.
Is this a Tesla?
Mike be like :I like to play my own and thus completely butcher the "Hell's Kitchen" song.
Is that a Tesla?
Robo Mike Here ... yay
And suddenly the comment section is filled by drum experts...
I noticed that almost all criticisms in this video are posted by nobody that good at nothing. I don't even see nothing on their youtube channel.
Your mean opinions represent your actual level... Try make something that everybody likes
Yes Tesla detected
Perhaps he should stop worrying about playing lefty or righty or tone and just play the parts as they were meant to be played, which is what the audience identifies with and wants to hear.
So many people says if mike mangini play with technic...and mike portnoy play with heart...
ROCKSTAR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROGSTAR
The sad part is that IAW has the worst drum sound. The snare has the stupid booming effect. Compared to albums from that time from Rush or Pantera that had pristine drum tracks.
To me, SDOIT has one of the best drum productions. Every instrument sounds crystal clear
it sounds awful, but at the same time I wonder if it would just sound really weird to me if Prater hadn't used triggers on Mike's set. According to Prater Mike snare sounded like absolute crap, so that's why he put the triggers in. It effed with the dynamics majorly though.
I remember Portnoy saying in an interview that he hated the trigger on that snare from I&W. Notice on Awake how tight and crispy it is?
Portnoy since then has had consistently great drum tones. Always loved his tom sounds - especially when he uses Pinstripes.
what is the point of playing smth with left hand other thing with right if you loose groove and feel this way??? That is for a drum machine to do not for musician.
Who says you lose feel and groove that way? I can play both ways, and I don't feel like I lose anything when I switch. It's not like the left hand only expresses itself on the snare and has no feel on the hi hat LOL! Hopefully you feel the groove with your whole body so it doesn't really matter what hand plays what aside from logistics.
Why?
He has different sounds on the right than from the left. He always plays with groove and feel. You guys just like to make up strawman fallacies in attempt to malign him. Lame.
🤖
This guy plays and thinks like a robot, explains a lot.
Did Mangini just say he had a friggin ZBT hi hat on his kit???? AKA the worst hi hat ever made???? $30k kit, and he has a $60 pair of hi hats???
Portnoy es mas creativo
Off course u cannot play like him, do not make excuses
robotic player
Those ZBT hats he's talking about sound like absolute shit. ZBT's are hideous. I respect the hell out of Mangini but combining his extremely robotic style of drumming with these awful cymbals makes him sound even more MIDI. Dramatic Turn of Events is my personal favorite DT album w/ Mangini, and I cringe constantly listening to it. Sounds like a beginner in their bedroom cymbal, like with the bunk beds and all.
Ryanem Probably didn’t help that the album was written and recorded without Mangini, and they sent him demos with the drum parts already programmed. He just learned the parts and added touches here and there.
I thought the same thing, but then I figured, there is a sound that he must like to use from those beginner hi hats. Effects or something. The dude is too talented and knows sounds too well, to use those ZBTs blinded. He has them there for a reason.
Because he has poor taste in cymbals^.. and drum sounds lol. He needs to just change everything, except his octabons.
I disagree with your statement. I have been playing drums for around 50 years and getting a good sound out of drum shells is the hardest thing ever. As far as cymbals go, I, like everybody else used to use Zildjians because that was about all we had, until Paiste came on the scene. Then I used those until Sabians came out and now I am still with Sabian. I hav a pair of ZBT hi hats that came with a used set of drums that I bought about two years ago. I kept the cymbals that came with it, and donated the drum set after restoring them to a small home missions church. I never use the ZBts, but I will keep them for maybe some trashy sounds later on when I layer them with something else.
MM just sounds like a robot. no feel.
TOOL.
Mike mangini u are better off playing with Justin Bieber
Mike portnoy is better.
Maginis put on a bit of weight
Too much of a good life with DT lmfao...
According to this man not being perfectly on the metronome bit is an error. This is where all the boring and feelless element of his drumming comes out.
Shiii, let genius talk
He never said that. He play as with a ton of feel and power.
Dream theater sucks ass now it sounds like europe with roch voisine melodies mixed mickael bolton
so happy that dt refused mp comeback.. mike mangini is 100x better..
Please just play what’s on the album. I love this guy but he changes up parts too much
Dan Davidson he can't.
Have you heard him live?
I've, only DT concert ever.
Dan Davidson He literally just said that the band makes him change things up. Also he should be able to switch some fills around for his own style.
Portnoy wrote/ writes seminal drum parts. The same way Petrucci writes seminal guitar parts. Mangini just plays what he's told most of the time. New DT music lacks personality in the rhythm section as a consequence, and so the music suffers too. For Mangini to remove a big chunk of what made these songs great in the first place is a bizarre decision. Both on his side and on the band's too.
God Mangini.... Dude looks like a lady :)
metaldownm he looks like snape
I hate to say... no... it hurts my heart to say... I can no longer listen to Dream Theater. By THIS interview... they have successfully erased Mike Portnoy from the band. Jordan wrote Dark??? Come on... who are you fooling. Portnoy WAS Dream Theater... and as much as i adore Mangini, and as much hope as I had, Dream Theater is no more for me. But then again, I am simply one man... just my heart talking.
Michael Reynolds totally agree with you. I’ve tried my best to keep listening new dream theater songs with the same enthusiasm, but it just something doesn’t feel right. And It’s not about mangini, it’s just the whole concept of the band, it’s not the same without portnoy.
are you still listening to their songs?
Jordan wrote the bridge after the 2nd corus John wrote the lyrics and Portnoy wrote the whole last riff. I agree with you this DT is bad but please do your research befor you comment Jordan has been writing parts of songs for years Like the end of In the name of God for instance
Kevin Moore was Dream Theater...
Not the same without portnoy
So that's how he trashes all the songs
portnoy is boring ..............
mangini is boring .............
Just checked and apparently Mike Manigina is in fact still the most irritating human being in music.
Reality says otherwise
2:20 What Jordan always wanted. I bet Mike Portnoy was such a prick. Like a dictator type guy. This guy is 100000X better than him anyway so the band really won huge.