Anybody checked on the cost of having them put on for you at a bike shop, that's where I'm headed, but thank you for showing me that if you younger guys struggled getting them on, then us old timers haven't got a chance, Ha! Ha!. That's the best part of life, learning from the struggles of others in life and knowing your own limitations, not to proud to get it done for me in Arizona, thanks for the video.
Reminds me of many years ago, it was a Sunday around 1700hrs and i was preparing for starting a new job on Monday morning, as it was going to be a 4.am start i went out to check the car, i could not believe i had a flat tyre, so i rooted in the boot only to find the spare was also flat, in those days there was nothing open on a Sunday so i set too with a handfull of screwdrivers and the like to fix the puncture, it took over two hours to get the tyre off, i fixed the puncture and attempted to put the tyre back on, after nearly giving up several times, no skin on my knuckles i finally got the tyre back on at 2300 hrs, i then realised i could not inflate the tyre as i had no pump, so off i toddled just over a mile and a half carrying the wheel to the nearest petrol station with an airline, inflated the tyre and set off home, after 30 minutes trying to explain to the police that the wheel was not stolen, they kindly gave me a lift home where i was able to prove my predicament, it was around 1.15 am when i climbed into bed. never again it nearly killed me.
Nice one Tim, I have just returned from my second morning ride on my trike, with three bright new yellow Tannus tyres. They seem to be bedding in very well and look fantastic. The ride is perceptibly harsher than it was on the Swalbe racers but no fear of punctures ! Fitting the three 16” tyres in the one day nearly killed me, arms are still sore. Like you I warmed the tyres and used cable ties. I noticed you did not use the plier like tool for forcing the clips into final position. I did not have that tool but feel it would have made life much easier. Enjoy your first ride on the new tyre and thanks for the great vlog.
HI John. Glad to hear you're enjoying your new tyres. The "p" tool was useless for pushing the pins in. The only use I found for it was levering the tyre on.
Morning Tim, I recently bought Tannus Armmor insert, I would strongly recommend contacting Tannus to check Tyre selection with there Armour options to ensure the correct size is bought. Installation is relatively easy, once the Tannus Armmor is removed from the package, wipe the outside and inside with a wipe making sure it is clean. Then work it around the inside off the tyre which is partly attached to the wheel, the pour in some talcum powder which stops the inner tube sticking to the Armour reducing puntures. Then use tyre lever to work around wheel using zip ties as the tyre is seated. The inner tube needs to be 26x1.1-1.5, tyre 26x2.0 as the Armour takes up the extra space. Then pumped up to 40psi add or decrease as required. Ride quality omg it takes the edge off all the lumps and bumps in the road surface, I would give this product 10 out of 10, it doesn't decrease my overall speed and certainly increases my comfort. Regards Iain
Hello hello Tim I was trying to put together electric bike using a car alternator because it has more torque and speed and a lot more durable not getting a flat would make it a whole lot better
Well done Tim on getting your tire on. I also use lots of tie wraps. Other than that I do it the same as you did. The only way I have got them off is to cut them off. But being careful not to damage the rim. Although I have been so pleased with mine that I've only tried it once. And that was because the tier was a light weight and thinner one (which they don't seem to make now). And it did flatten after a while of riding it.
Love to hear your comments after riding, hope they are a lot better than the solid foam type from the green tyre company I gave up on them poorer pedaling efficiency & such a harsh ride that it wrecked the wheels. The rims,spokes & hubs suffered terribly. Tim I hope these are much better than the green tyre ones I had cos those rohloffs are expensive & only have 32 spokes as mine had 36 & had the most spoke breakage on any wheel I ever had with them on.
I hope so too! The reviews online are "mixed" but thats why I wanted to try one for myself. I will be reviewing them periodically so that everyone can get my honest opinion on them. Broken spokes would be a nightmare with these tires. All I can do is keep my fingers crossed on that one.
Well done Tim! I'm glad it was you, not me, putting it on though. You made it look far easier than I'm sure it was, Getting it off will probably be a whole new experience, and I'd guess a sharp stanley knife may come in handy then? I'll stick with my Schwalbe Marathon Plus for the forseeable future.
I dont blame you for sticking with the Marra's. They're a fantastic tyre. Yes, it was very VERY difficult to get on. My hands, wrists and arms ached like **** for hours after.
Nice Rohloff Speed Hub..! I love my Rohloff. it is durable to hold up to the torque of the BBS02 750w mid-drive. All the other internal hubs snap/break when under that kind of torque.
hi There Tim interesting, be interested in what you think of it after you have done a couple of rides with it. Thank you by the way. on your video on the water platypus be concerned with mouthpiece getting dirt getting on it, that low, just a thought. I do not have the pocket in my seat so going to think of something else. Good luck with the tyre
I've yet to ride in the wet with the drinking straw Alistair, so I dont know where the dirt will land. The mouth piece has a cover on it but I'd rather that didnt get dirty either. If there is some splashing then I'll make a small waterproof pocket just forward of the magnet for it to slip into.
Tim, could use some advice!! My Hafny 'Lens' seems to have become loose/rattles. (always thought it was my trike). Have considered an adhesive bead around the lens. maybe take it apart (?) to put the adhesive inside. Am open for suggestions!! (I still Luv 'em!!) Tks!!
Hi Larry, yes I would say a touch of superglue around the edges. You could also email the company. They might stump up a new one as you havent had them very long.
I have very little space for the mechanics so yes it really helps to have an understanding with the wife 😀 Very little editing in this one as I wanted everyone to see as much of the fitting as possible. Funny but I find I naturally just dont curse when the camera is on... strange eh!?
Hi Tim lm thinking of fitting tannus tyres. I note that you fitted 20x1.75. The tyres l currently have are 20x1.50. I'm confused which size tannus is best suited to my ice adventure trike. Could you please offer your opinion. Regards Steve
Hi Stephen. I fitted the 20x1.50 to the front of my trike... only because I couldn't find a supplier of any other size. For what its worth I like them a lot.
Nice color you went for. As people didn't see you, they will now. I use tires with reflector stops on it. I am getting front tires with it. That works very good. What a work to put it on. Not my thing to do. Are you going yo put them also on the front wheels or aren't they available in 20inch? I think that for off-road that they will slip. I think that the profile is to smooth. I don't know if it is something gor me. You have suspension but I haven't and I use air pressure to smoothen my ride. You need to change it as it wears out just like other tires. It will be slicks, but as you remove them, I would just cut them off. Is easier than trying to get them off. I am interested if you notice a difference in riding. Today I got new jeans for on my Trike and a second shirt. Maybe the jeans are a bit hot in the summer, but riding went great with it. I can always get shorts if needed. I am now from top to bottom in one brand. I noticed that today when I was paying. All Rogelli even my shoes. Also did a nice ride today. I must change the route a bit so I can make it a smoother ride and more interesting ad the start. Sadly my battery died soon after I left. Forgot to charge it. So the best part wasn't recorded. Where you love to go off road, I love those narrow roads with lots of corners in it. On a Trike going trough a corner on high speed is just great. Especially as they are close to each other.
Tim, Our Boris (PM) wants to make cycling better in Britain - so my question if you had his ear for a short while what would you ask of him and tell him about Cycling UK? Good Video.
Hope they are worth the effort. Interesting to get your opinions on how it affects the ride, if at all. Looking forward to seeing how it looks on Trinny.
Hi Neil, yes I'll be giving plenty of feedback on them. Tyres are pretty important things to get right. I'll make sure everyone gets my honest opinion.
Morning Tim, I would love to hear your views on the ride quality off the Tannus tyre. I'm fitting the Tannus Armour on my rear tyre today. I'll give you my thoughts on this set up once I've got some miles under my belt. Regards Iain
Tim, Somehow I missed this episode back on the 6th, so I went back to watch. Intriguing tire. I wonder if soapy water might have made it easier to slip on? Or..did they discourage that method? It will be interesting to see how these hold on with high speed cornering on a good down hill stretch. Did they give instructions on removing it if needed (like if your rim cracks or something like that)..? Another question I had on the tread was grip on wet asphalt roads, and/or snow covered roads (Colorado)?? Be well and stay safe, bf
They gave very few instructions on fitting... other than levering it onto the rim as I did. They did suggest just the one zip tie but it was easier to use more. There are also instructions on removing it and that doesn't look easy either. Hope fully it wont come to that though. I cant say about wet/cold conditions just yet though I will continue to report on the tire as we go along. Reviews online suggest it is comparable to other pneumatic tires but I'd rather find out for myself before recommending them to anyone.
I fitted one of these tyres before I found to make it quicker was a bag of cable ties . Place the tyre into the rim as far as you can then cable tie the tyre to the rim contine on and get a bit more in , cable tie again and cut the previous cable and repeat this technique till tyre in fully on ,the cable ties prevent the tyre from popping out all the time . These tyres drastically slow the bike down I ran it for few weeks and it's like cycling with the brake on and a hard ride but brilliant if the road has a lot of stones which causes punctures. I had to take it off I'd rather get the puncture and fix at side of the road than use this tyre and get no puncture
Some online reviews speak of these lasting between 6000 and 10000 miles. I cant vouch for any of those reviews but I will be giving you my honest opinion on them over the coming days, weeks and months.
Did the instructions say, "You'll need a torch..! " LOL. I have heard these are very tight and difficult to put on. I looked into these, (eXpensive..!). You could also use a hairdryer to warm the tire before starting. I'm looking at going tubeless instead. Reason: smoothest ride you will every have. I have the Schwalbe BigBen PLUS that is virtually puncture/flat proof. This combined with the tubeless will be a winning combo.
The hairdryer would probably work but you might just make hot spots and then the tire would stretch unevenly. It was far easier to pop it in the airing cupboard and go have a coffee for an hour.
@@TimsTrikeTrips Tim... I take it back... I talked to my bike mechanic, he said "you have to have a tubeless ready tire and bike rim". he also said, "they work well until you get a puncture that is too big to seal instantly (that doesn't take much). And when they fail, they are a complete mess, spraying gross white sealant everywhere." Please let me know how you like this new Tannus Tire...? Does it provide any shock absorbing..? I do think, if your careful, you can use a hairdryer on low setting at about 6" would be safe. Just heat it evenly before you begin. I wouldn't hold it on just one spot for too long. I do this with my Schwalbe tires because that makes it easier to install them, and the warm tire also helps my hands not to cramp up.
Hi Tim, great video. Can you answer a question please? Where did you get your Tannus airless tyres from? I can't seem to find any supply source in the UK. Grateful if you could tell. Cheers
Congratulations on trying the Tannus tire! You may recall I mentioned in your previous vlog I ride with Tannus tires. I look forward to hearing your experience of riding with it. Nice color. Nice installation demonstration. I'm impressed you got the tire on without using the P-tool to set the pins. Curious if you tried the P-tool to install any pins off camera? Did you get a chance to weigh the old tire, inner tube, and liner to do a weight comparison? For me, the Tannus tires weigh less than the tire/tube I used previously. The ride experience is important. I don't look forward to removing the tires when the time comes. Note- last week I avoided 2 flats thanks to the tires. -Gary
I must remember to mention these things in another vlog. The tyre & tube I removed weighed 580g. The tannus weighes just 460g. I tried using the p tool and almost damaged the tyre with it. I found that I couldnt get he angle right for it to work so gave up with it almost straight away.
Sorry the p-tool didn't work for you. It really makes that step easier - when one has it figured out. Now that you mention it, there is a certain way to get it set to the tyre. There seems to be many "tricks" to getting the tyres installed "easily." Don't see a video on using the p-tool. Darn.
Hi Tim, I hope things are going well with you and you beloved ones. Just wondering since you haven’t posted any new video in awhile. So fingers crossed we hear from you again real soon. 😊 Another great video, many thanks for sharing! 👍🏻 Would be great if you share some feedback on the performance of your new tires (e.g durability, grip on gravel...). My wife and I ride the Marathon Plus MTB on our Scorpions due to better grip on gravel road, especially when going uphill. So far we‘re very happy with it, the only downside is the issue of getting a puncture while touring. Especially since we have the Go SwissDrive in the back which makes the change/repair quite tricky. So the Tannus tires might be a good alternative. 🤔 All the best, Phil
Hi Tim is this tyre a non puncture and if so who supplies it ? I was wondering if your trike was a lot of money or is the more you want on your trike cost more then a standard one ? Have you ever thought about going to Norfolk of a ride and camping? Yours Nigel.
Hi Nigel, the tyre was supplied by Tannus themselves on their webpage and cost £60. My trike is quite pricey and I had a few additional extras added to it when I bought her. I will be going to Norfolk and camping at some point.
I know this is an old episode, but I thought it would be a good place to surprise you with a comment on "tyres." My Marathon Plus trio arrived today, and not a moment too soon. I went to my garage last night, and lo and behold my rear tire is flat. So, I now have a right front with a slow leak and a rear that's totally pancaked. Now I know why my ride yesterday morning was so hard. I rode with my earbuds blasting "Yessongs," so I didn't hear the pfft of air. I'll change all 3 tires between tonight and tomorrow....
@@TimsTrikeTrips Having some pain issues due to bending over for the tire install (also had to tweak my mud guards a bit-- the fatter tires were rubbing). Just couldn't go today as planned. It's okay... disability teaches patience 😉
You know Daniel... I have absolutely no idea. Its just what the instruction state. Im sure theres a good reason though, besides theres no reason to leave it on anyway.
New triker here. To my cynical mind, "Tannus reckon the tyre takes 60 to 100 miles to "bed in" indicates that, over a short amount of time, these tires will certainly deform. So, it is no surprise to me that some have reported flattening, even though these are "solid" tires. I await your results with great interest. Happy Trails!
Actually its a weight loss for me Debbie. The tyre and tube that I removed weighed 120 grammes more than the Tannus. If I eventually decide to change the front tyres too then I'll also gain from not carrying spare tubes, repair kit and pump too. So that leaves us with ride quality... thats the biggy isn't it. Well lets wait and see. Tannus reckon the tyre takes 60 to 100 miles to "bed in" but I'll be letting everyone know how I'm getting on with them you can be sure.
When I got my Tannus tire's I put tire up to Rim "pre" Zip-Tied "spaced" Pegs about every 4 Peg's slowly work tire around just pull Zip-tie & on to the NEXT.! but make sure You have plenty of Zip-tie's..! have a home welding/shop & already had plenty of container's full of sizes shapes of Zip-Ties, Hope this Help's ones having problems. WelderX
Hi tim great video, i was struggling to fit my tannus then watch this and the zip tie idea really helped, when you rode on this tyre did it make your steering twitchy ?
Glad it helpe. My steering is all through the front wheels so no twitchiness there but the tannus did take a good 60 to 70 miles to settle down. It had the sensation of rolling on marbles for a while.
When I worked as a cycle mechanic for Royal mail, we trialed solid tyres, made by ,I think Green speed, they were difficult to mount, and most felt they were slower, harsher to ride and in the wet soaked up the water, also ,because of the profile of the tyres, were prone to tramlining , I.e hard to steer. They also ruined wheels, making the spokes go slack, all in not a successful trial, but this was 30 years ago! Maybe the tech had improved, but I can't say I would fit them.
I've read some horror stories about solid tyres through the ages. Hopefully these are "new tech" and will actually work, but thats why I'm trialling them so people can see how I get on. I'm not sponsored by Tannus and paid full price for the tyre. If its no good then I'll be telling everyone for sure.
Frankly never heard of Tannus Tires. It would be great to have puncture proof tires but after watching you labor over installation & being a rather lazy guy, I might think twice. Another concern is grip on wet pavement. Wonder as well if available in the. US. Good installation video, Tim.
Grip is one of my major concerns too Dave. I'll be making sure that everyone gets to see and hear how I get on. They are available in the US. Thanks my friend.
I am surprised you thanked the viewer who suggested these. !! Just too much work. Looking forward to your review and feedback. Most of us can change a tube in 5 minutes with no effort. ...probably for a lot less money too. What is the cost of the tire? Good luck!
I thanked Paul for his help and advice but he didnt suggest the tyre. Yes it was tough but it is "fit & forget"? If (Big IF) these work them its complete peace of mind. No need to pump them up, no need to carry repair kits, pumps etc. They cost £60 which is more than twice the cost of a Schwalbe Marathon. I'm very much just testing these out at the moment. If they dont work for me then, dont worry, everyone will know about it 😉. Lets wait and see...
Tims Trike Trips good luck with them. Very pricey and a lot of work! Keep us posted. I am pretty quick now with the tire and tube repairs when needed ...although it never happens in a convenient place.
Like it doesnt matter what society or the bike community says abt this tire, this tire serves its purpose being durable, reliable and stress free. without worrying abt flats
I'm looking forward to seeing some video and commentary on how that feels. My bike is burnt orange for the same reason that tire is red. A good pair of leather gloves would have served you well.
Regarding the amount of work putting on the tire - The good part is you don't have to take it off, put it on again until it's worn out. No more effort really for each 'flat tire' event. No pumping up the tire to the proper pressure.
I'll just change a tube or go tubeless LOL. That's too much like work and with a solid tire I'm sure the ride will be one of a quite abnormal feel. (yep will take some getting used to) if you didn't get that in the right direction of rotation you will be kicking yourself after getting it installed LOL.
I have tried tannus tiers on a 2 wheeler recumbent and would not recommend it as you do seem a bit unstable on certain road surfaces. But on a trike the is no difference to a pneumatic tier and I would recommend any trike owner with full suspension to try them.
Hi Richard, having now ridden a few miles on it I agree with Paul. I would feel quite unstable on two wheels with these tyres. It feels like your rolling on marbles at times. Very disconcerting. But of course on a trike it makes no difference at all. Also Tannus state that it can take 60 to 100miles for these to "bed in" so we will see a bit further down the road I guess.
Too much like work. I will stick with my Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, a Tire liner and a thorn resistant inner tube. Oh, what is the "Air Pressure" of that tire? I run my Schwalbe tires at 75 PSI.
I was also happy with my Shwalbe's James but we have to change to improve right? Seriosly, I'm just trialling this tyre so everyone else can see whether they're any good or not. If they are then I'll probably do the front wheels too. If not then you'll also see me doing a vlog where I remove it 😉👍
Tim! Please check out IHOPPOET channel on UA-cam. He put a set on his trike for a tour he did last summer of the Erie Canal. Had a few issues but overall he was impressed with them. I put Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires on my trike after getting three flats in the span of two weeks with the Marathon Racers that the trike came shod with. No problems since.
Yes, I follow IHOPPET too. Apart from his poorly manufactured one he's been doing ok with them. I'm more about just testing this tyre for now. I was also happy with my Marra's but was intrigued by the idea of a solid. Lets see how it goes.
Tim. Two things I didn't like. 1) You mention something called a P Tool, but no explanation of what it's for, where to get it etc. 2) No specification of the wheel you used. I've heard reference to hooked and hookless - maybe that applies only to tubeless tyres, but either way I'd have appreciated you at least mentioning whether there are any restrictions on using a "conventional" tubed wheel. I'm not being snarky just for the hell of it. I don't know anything about the technology and I'm trying to find out - hence I'm looking at videos like this.
I did the same ....tires now on bike ✌️😜 shit rubber tire ... extrem strong rubber ... i did it with the red plastic sticks ...after that I was ko ...😂✌️... km tire Garantie 8000 km ... May Test the next time
@@TimsTrikeTrips I've never broken a spoke with tannus tiers. It's one of the things people say because they are anti solid tiers and I've heard it before.
If you think about it . You don't need to drill the tier unless you loose the nipple. And I think that would be hard to do as the tier takes up all of the rim inside.
Anybody checked on the cost of having them put on for you at a bike shop, that's where I'm headed, but thank you for showing me that if you younger guys struggled getting them on, then us old timers haven't got a chance, Ha! Ha!. That's the best part of life, learning from the struggles of others in life and knowing your own limitations, not to proud to get it done for me in Arizona, thanks for the video.
Reminds me of many years ago, it was a Sunday around 1700hrs and i was preparing for starting a new job on Monday morning, as it was going to be a 4.am start i went out to check the car, i could not believe i had a flat tyre, so i rooted in the boot only to find the spare was also flat, in those days there was nothing open on a Sunday so i set too with a handfull of screwdrivers and the like to fix the puncture, it took over two hours to get the tyre off, i fixed the puncture and attempted to put the tyre back on, after nearly giving up several times, no skin on my knuckles i finally got the tyre back on at 2300 hrs, i then realised i could not inflate the tyre as i had no pump, so off i toddled just over a mile and a half carrying the wheel to the nearest petrol station with an airline, inflated the tyre and set off home, after 30 minutes trying to explain to the police that the wheel was not stolen, they kindly gave me a lift home where i was able to prove my predicament, it was around 1.15 am when i climbed into bed. never again it nearly killed me.
😂 Sorry Jimmy but that made me laugh. How did the new job go after all that?
Nice one Tim, I have just returned from my second morning ride on my trike, with three bright new yellow Tannus tyres. They seem to be bedding in very well and look fantastic. The ride is perceptibly harsher than it was on the Swalbe racers but no fear of punctures ! Fitting the three 16” tyres in the one day nearly killed me, arms are still sore. Like you I warmed the tyres and used cable ties. I noticed you did not use the plier like tool for forcing the clips into final position. I did not have that tool but feel it would have made life much easier. Enjoy your first ride on the new tyre and thanks for the great vlog.
HI John. Glad to hear you're enjoying your new tyres. The "p" tool was useless for pushing the pins in. The only use I found for it was levering the tyre on.
Morning Tim,
I recently bought Tannus Armmor insert, I would strongly recommend contacting Tannus to check Tyre selection with there Armour options to ensure the correct size is bought.
Installation is relatively easy, once the Tannus Armmor is removed from the package, wipe the outside and inside with a wipe making sure it is clean. Then work it around the inside off the tyre which is partly attached to the wheel, the pour in some talcum powder which stops the inner tube sticking to the Armour reducing puntures.
Then use tyre lever to work around wheel using zip ties as the tyre is seated. The inner tube needs to be 26x1.1-1.5, tyre 26x2.0 as the Armour takes up the extra space. Then pumped up to 40psi add or decrease as required.
Ride quality omg it takes the edge off all the lumps and bumps in the road surface, I would give this product 10 out of 10, it doesn't decrease my overall speed and certainly increases my comfort.
Regards Iain
Thanks for passing that on Iain. I've found that they aren't very descriptive of the different sizes on their website too.
Hello Tim! It’s good to have something different from time to time; didn’t mind it at all. Good day! Be safe!
Thanks, you too!
Hello hello Tim I was trying to put together electric bike using a car alternator because it has more torque and speed and a lot more durable not getting a flat would make it a whole lot better
Well done Tim on getting your tire on. I also use lots of tie wraps. Other than that I do it the same as you did. The only way I have got them off is to cut them off. But being careful not to damage the rim. Although I have been so pleased with mine that I've only tried it once. And that was because the tier was a light weight and thinner one (which they don't seem to make now). And it did flatten after a while of riding it.
Yes, its not something I'd want to take off in a hurry to be fair. Thankyou for your help & advice too.
Whew, you wore me out LOL 😆. Hope you enjoy the ride. Happy Trails 🤠
I hope so too... we will see.
Thanks for sharing. You make it look easy to install. How do we remove the tire? Is cut the tire into two?
just brought these tires saw you video and the using cable ties idea was good
Those clicks make a very satisfying sound that doth please mine ears.
Love to hear your comments after riding, hope they are a lot better than the solid foam type from the green tyre company I gave up on them poorer pedaling efficiency & such a harsh ride that it wrecked the wheels. The rims,spokes & hubs suffered terribly. Tim I hope these are much better than the green tyre ones I had cos those rohloffs are expensive & only have 32 spokes as mine had 36 & had the most spoke breakage on any wheel I ever had with them on.
I hope so too! The reviews online are "mixed" but thats why I wanted to try one for myself. I will be reviewing them periodically so that everyone can get my honest opinion on them. Broken spokes would be a nightmare with these tires. All I can do is keep my fingers crossed on that one.
really liked this video, is there one showing how to take the tire off if you need to?
Hacksaw! 🤣
Well done vlog. Rather you than me. Hope it works well for you. Will look forward to see how you get on. Stay safe.
Fingers crossed eh Ord?! Only time will tell.
Well done Tim! I'm glad it was you, not me, putting it on though. You made it look far easier than I'm sure it was, Getting it off will probably be a whole new experience, and I'd guess a sharp stanley knife may come in handy then? I'll stick with my Schwalbe Marathon Plus for the forseeable future.
I dont blame you for sticking with the Marra's. They're a fantastic tyre. Yes, it was very VERY difficult to get on. My hands, wrists and arms ached like **** for hours after.
Nice Rohloff Speed Hub..! I love my Rohloff. it is durable to hold up to the torque of the BBS02 750w mid-drive. All the other internal hubs snap/break when under that kind of torque.
yes, I'm also very happy with the Rohloff. Its a quality item.
Well done Tim. We had ours fitted at Smile Bikes - for free mind you. Now well over a 1,300 miles and still looking good.
Thats good to hear. I like fitting these things myself. Knowing how the trike is put together is good for my own peace of mind.
Think you could use a heat gun to heat the tyre up ?
Thats a good idea 👍
Very helpful. Do you guys think this would be ok on an ebike 30 mph off road of course many thanks T.
hi There Tim interesting, be interested in what you think of it after you have done a couple of rides with it. Thank you by the way. on your video on the water platypus be concerned with mouthpiece getting dirt getting on it, that low, just a thought. I do not have the pocket in my seat so going to think of something else.
Good luck with the tyre
I've yet to ride in the wet with the drinking straw Alistair, so I dont know where the dirt will land. The mouth piece has a cover on it but I'd rather that didnt get dirty either. If there is some splashing then I'll make a small waterproof pocket just forward of the magnet for it to slip into.
nice background music very calming
Tim, could use some advice!! My Hafny 'Lens' seems to have become loose/rattles. (always thought it was my trike). Have considered an adhesive bead around the lens. maybe take it apart (?) to put the adhesive inside. Am open for suggestions!! (I still Luv 'em!!) Tks!!
Had a mirrcycle lens rattle. Used a tiny tube of super around the edge. Glue is so viscous that it went in and out of sight. It did the trick.
Hi Larry, yes I would say a touch of superglue around the edges. You could also email the company. They might stump up a new one as you havent had them very long.
Top of the day Tim. Hope things are good with you.
have missed getting updated on your adventures. Hope to see an update soon.
All that and no cursing (or did that get edited out?) ... and your missus allows you to do trike mechanics in her dining room? Absolutely marvelous.
I have very little space for the mechanics so yes it really helps to have an understanding with the wife 😀
Very little editing in this one as I wanted everyone to see as much of the fitting as possible. Funny but I find I naturally just dont curse when the camera is on... strange eh!?
Hi Tim lm thinking of fitting tannus tyres. I note that you fitted 20x1.75. The tyres l currently have are 20x1.50. I'm confused which size tannus is best suited to my ice adventure trike. Could you please offer your opinion. Regards Steve
Hi Stephen. I fitted the 20x1.50 to the front of my trike... only because I couldn't find a supplier of any other size. For what its worth I like them a lot.
Nice color you went for. As people didn't see you, they will now.
I use tires with reflector stops on it. I am getting front tires with it. That works very good.
What a work to put it on. Not my thing to do. Are you going yo put them also on the front wheels or aren't they available in 20inch?
I think that for off-road that they will slip. I think that the profile is to smooth.
I don't know if it is something gor me. You have suspension but I haven't and I use air pressure to smoothen my ride.
You need to change it as it wears out just like other tires. It will be slicks, but as you remove them, I would just cut them off. Is easier than trying to get them off.
I am interested if you notice a difference in riding.
Today I got new jeans for on my Trike and a second shirt. Maybe the jeans are a bit hot in the summer, but riding went great with it. I can always get shorts if needed.
I am now from top to bottom in one brand. I noticed that today when I was paying. All Rogelli even my shoes.
Also did a nice ride today. I must change the route a bit so I can make it a smoother ride and more interesting ad the start. Sadly my battery died soon after I left. Forgot to charge it. So the best part wasn't recorded. Where you love to go off road, I love those narrow roads with lots of corners in it. On a Trike going trough a corner on high speed is just great. Especially as they are close to each other.
Yup, I like the colour. They do make a 20" but just now I'm unsure of the tyre width for that size. I will have to speak with the company.
Tim, Our Boris (PM) wants to make cycling better in Britain - so my question if you had his ear for a short while what would you ask of him and tell him about Cycling UK? Good Video.
Wow, thats a doozy Mark. I'll have to have a long hard think about that. Thanks for the topic though.
Whats better tannus or nexo? They both make airless tires..
I cant answer that one Mustafa. I've never tried nexo.
@@TimsTrikeTrips just got tannus😅👌 posted on my vid too👌👌😅
Hope they are worth the effort. Interesting to get your opinions on how it affects the ride, if at all. Looking forward to seeing how it looks on Trinny.
Hi Neil, yes I'll be giving plenty of feedback on them. Tyres are pretty important things to get right. I'll make sure everyone gets my honest opinion.
Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to your next vlog showing the tyre in action on Trinny
Morning Tim,
I would love to hear your views on the ride quality off the Tannus tyre.
I'm fitting the Tannus Armour on my rear tyre today. I'll give you my thoughts on this set up once I've got some miles under my belt.
Regards Iain
Hi Iain, first impressions posted in an hour or so... Good luck with the Armour.
Interesting ... can you share the source info on the tire.
Maybe add the link to the web site.
I look forward to your review of it.
As you live in the USA see this .... ua-cam.com/video/xJ5TUxBgWxM/v-deo.html
Well I see Pauls already helped you there Chis. Let me know if you have any further questions?
Paul ... Thanks
@@ChisWest I've downloaded ALL your video's and will watch them later.
I do hope you did them enjoyable.
Tim,
Somehow I missed this episode back on the 6th, so I went back to watch. Intriguing tire. I wonder if soapy water might have made it easier to slip on? Or..did they discourage that method? It will be interesting to see how these hold on with high speed cornering on a good down hill stretch. Did they give instructions on removing it if needed (like if your rim cracks or something like that)..?
Another question I had on the tread was grip on wet asphalt roads, and/or snow covered roads (Colorado)??
Be well and stay safe,
bf
They gave very few instructions on fitting... other than levering it onto the rim as I did. They did suggest just the one zip tie but it was easier to use more. There are also instructions on removing it and that doesn't look easy either. Hope fully it wont come to that though.
I cant say about wet/cold conditions just yet though I will continue to report on the tire as we go along. Reviews online suggest it is comparable to other pneumatic tires but I'd rather find out for myself before recommending them to anyone.
I fitted one of these tyres before I found to make it quicker was a bag of cable ties . Place the tyre into the rim as far as you can then cable tie the tyre to the rim contine on and get a bit more in , cable tie again and cut the previous cable and repeat this technique till tyre in fully on ,the cable ties prevent the tyre from popping out all the time . These tyres drastically slow the bike down I ran it for few weeks and it's like cycling with the brake on and a hard ride but brilliant if the road has a lot of stones which causes punctures. I had to take it off I'd rather get the puncture and fix at side of the road than use this tyre and get no puncture
Hi, Tim, hope you're okay miss your post. Hope to see more soon. Thank you for your post.
So these tires should last... forever? Considering the amount of work it took. Can’t wait to learn your opinion of them.
Some online reviews speak of these lasting between 6000 and 10000 miles. I cant vouch for any of those reviews but I will be giving you my honest opinion on them over the coming days, weeks and months.
Wow, that's a neat thing! I really want to hear they work.
Fingers crossed! I'll be letting everyone know how good/bad they are as the year progresses. Time will tell eh! Cheers Matt
soo, how do they perform over the years, im thinking to go for them on electric bike?
Did the instructions say, "You'll need a torch..! " LOL. I have heard these are very tight and difficult to put on. I looked into these, (eXpensive..!). You could also use a hairdryer to warm the tire before starting. I'm looking at going tubeless instead. Reason: smoothest ride you will every have. I have the Schwalbe BigBen PLUS that is virtually puncture/flat proof. This combined with the tubeless will be a winning combo.
The hairdryer would probably work but you might just make hot spots and then the tire would stretch unevenly. It was far easier to pop it in the airing cupboard and go have a coffee for an hour.
@@TimsTrikeTrips Tim... I take it back... I talked to my bike mechanic, he said "you have to have a tubeless ready tire and bike rim". he also said, "they work well until you get a puncture that is too big to seal instantly (that doesn't take much). And when they fail, they are a complete mess, spraying gross white sealant everywhere."
Please let me know how you like this new Tannus Tire...? Does it provide any shock absorbing..? I do think, if your careful, you can use a hairdryer on low setting at about 6" would be safe. Just heat it evenly before you begin. I wouldn't hold it on just one spot for too long. I do this with my Schwalbe tires because that makes it easier to install them, and the warm tire also helps my hands not to cramp up.
Tim, do you have updated opinion of your Tania Tyre?
Hi Tim, great video. Can you answer a question please? Where did you get your Tannus airless tyres from? I can't seem to find any supply source in the UK. Grateful if you could tell. Cheers
Congratulations on trying the Tannus tire! You may recall I mentioned in your previous vlog I ride with Tannus tires. I look forward to hearing your experience of riding with it. Nice color. Nice installation demonstration. I'm impressed you got the tire on without using the P-tool to set the pins. Curious if you tried the P-tool to install any pins off camera? Did you get a chance to weigh the old tire, inner tube, and liner to do a weight comparison? For me, the Tannus tires weigh less than the tire/tube I used previously. The ride experience is important. I don't look forward to removing the tires when the time comes. Note- last week I avoided 2 flats thanks to the tires. -Gary
I must remember to mention these things in another vlog. The tyre & tube I removed weighed 580g. The tannus weighes just 460g.
I tried using the p tool and almost damaged the tyre with it. I found that I couldnt get he angle right for it to work so gave up with it almost straight away.
Sorry the p-tool didn't work for you. It really makes that step easier - when one has it figured out. Now that you mention it, there is a certain way to get it set to the tyre. There seems to be many "tricks" to getting the tyres installed "easily." Don't see a video on using the p-tool. Darn.
How did they hold up????????
Hi Tim,
I hope things are going well with you and you beloved ones. Just wondering since you haven’t posted any new video in awhile. So fingers crossed we hear from you again real soon. 😊
Another great video, many thanks for sharing! 👍🏻
Would be great if you share some feedback on the performance of your new tires (e.g durability, grip on gravel...).
My wife and I ride the Marathon Plus MTB on our Scorpions due to better grip on gravel road, especially when going uphill. So far we‘re very happy with it, the only downside is the issue of getting a puncture while touring. Especially since we have the Go SwissDrive in the back which makes the change/repair quite tricky. So the Tannus tires might be a good alternative. 🤔
All the best,
Phil
Bro how can i purchase like this product.Pls share link.
Hi Tim is this tyre a non puncture and if so who supplies it ? I was wondering if your trike was a lot of money or is the more you want on your trike cost more then a standard one ? Have you ever thought about going to Norfolk of a ride and camping? Yours Nigel.
Hi Nigel, the tyre was supplied by Tannus themselves on their webpage and cost £60. My trike is quite pricey and I had a few additional extras added to it when I bought her. I will be going to Norfolk and camping at some point.
I know this is an old episode, but I thought it would be a good place to surprise you with a comment on "tyres." My Marathon Plus trio arrived today, and not a moment too soon.
I went to my garage last night, and lo and behold my rear tire is flat. So, I now have a right front with a slow leak and a rear that's totally pancaked.
Now I know why my ride yesterday morning was so hard. I rode with my earbuds blasting "Yessongs," so I didn't hear the pfft of air.
I'll change all 3 tires between tonight and tomorrow....
Good news then. I hope you had a good birthday too?
@@TimsTrikeTrips Actually it's tomorrow...
@@themilehightriker8500 lol, sorry buddy. Have a great one anyway 👍
@@TimsTrikeTrips Having some pain issues due to bending over for the tire install (also had to tweak my mud guards a bit-- the fatter tires were rubbing). Just couldn't go today as planned. It's okay... disability teaches patience 😉
why do you have to take off the tape?
You know Daniel... I have absolutely no idea. Its just what the instruction state. Im sure theres a good reason though, besides theres no reason to leave it on anyway.
You made me sweat watching you putting it together and I really admire you patience and dedication 🤗
😊 thank you
New triker here. To my cynical mind, "Tannus reckon the tyre takes 60 to 100 miles to "bed in" indicates that, over a short amount of time, these tires will certainly deform. So, it is no surprise to me that some have reported flattening, even though these are "solid" tires. I await your results with great interest. Happy Trails!
how expensive are one of rubber tires?
What do you call that plastic chips ?
That's a ton of work. I'm curious about the excess weight and ride quality? We'll see tomorrow. Try a tubeless application next!!😁😂
Actually its a weight loss for me Debbie. The tyre and tube that I removed weighed 120 grammes more than the Tannus. If I eventually decide to change the front tyres too then I'll also gain from not carrying spare tubes, repair kit and pump too. So that leaves us with ride quality... thats the biggy isn't it. Well lets wait and see. Tannus reckon the tyre takes 60 to 100 miles to "bed in" but I'll be letting everyone know how I'm getting on with them you can be sure.
@@TimsTrikeTrips thats a significant weight loss. Can't wait to hear the ride quality verdict
How do they ride? softer or harder?
One tip for you once you have seated the clips put just a little Vaseline on the lip it helps them slip in so easily 👍
When I got my Tannus tire's I put tire up to Rim "pre" Zip-Tied "spaced" Pegs about every 4 Peg's slowly work tire around just pull Zip-tie & on to the NEXT.! but make sure You have plenty of Zip-tie's..! have a home welding/shop & already had plenty of container's full of sizes shapes of Zip-Ties, Hope this Help's ones having problems. WelderX
Hi tim great video, i was struggling to fit my tannus then watch this and the zip tie idea really helped, when you rode on this tyre did it make your steering twitchy ?
Glad it helpe. My steering is all through the front wheels so no twitchiness there but the tannus did take a good 60 to 70 miles to settle down. It had the sensation of rolling on marbles for a while.
When I worked as a cycle mechanic for Royal mail, we trialed solid tyres, made by ,I think Green speed, they were difficult to mount, and most felt they were slower, harsher to ride and in the wet soaked up the water, also ,because of the profile of the tyres, were prone to tramlining , I.e hard to steer.
They also ruined wheels, making the spokes go slack, all in not a successful trial, but this was 30 years ago! Maybe the tech had improved, but I can't say I would fit them.
I've read some horror stories about solid tyres through the ages. Hopefully these are "new tech" and will actually work, but thats why I'm trialling them so people can see how I get on. I'm not sponsored by Tannus and paid full price for the tyre. If its no good then I'll be telling everyone for sure.
Very interesting.
Cheers
Glad you think so! Cheers Tim.
Frankly never heard of Tannus Tires. It would be great to have puncture proof tires but after watching you labor over installation & being a rather lazy guy, I might think twice. Another concern is grip on wet pavement. Wonder as well if available in the. US. Good installation video, Tim.
Grip is one of my major concerns too Dave. I'll be making sure that everyone gets to see and hear how I get on. They are available in the US. Thanks my friend.
WELL DONE MATE.
I am surprised you thanked the viewer who suggested these. !! Just too much work. Looking forward to your review and feedback. Most of us can change a tube in 5 minutes with no effort. ...probably for a lot less money too. What is the cost of the tire? Good luck!
I thanked Paul for his help and advice but he didnt suggest the tyre. Yes it was tough but it is "fit & forget"? If (Big IF) these work them its complete peace of mind. No need to pump them up, no need to carry repair kits, pumps etc. They cost £60 which is more than twice the cost of a Schwalbe Marathon. I'm very much just testing these out at the moment. If they dont work for me then, dont worry, everyone will know about it 😉. Lets wait and see...
Tims Trike Trips good luck with them. Very pricey and a lot of work! Keep us posted. I am pretty quick now with the tire and tube repairs when needed ...although it never happens in a convenient place.
Like it doesnt matter what society or the bike community says abt this tire, this tire serves its purpose being durable, reliable and stress free. without worrying abt flats
Great video but u forgot one thing after u got the tire half way on the P-Tool u showed it but u didn't use it on finally getting the clips to seat.
If you have to replace a spoke 😳can you make a video of that 😏😏
I'm looking forward to seeing some video and commentary on how that feels. My bike is burnt orange for the same reason that tire is red. A good pair of leather gloves would have served you well.
Oh if only I'd thought of gloves! I still think my arms would've ached though. Plenty of feedback coming in future vlogs I assure you.
thank you really good video.
Regarding the amount of work putting on the tire - The good part is you don't have to take it off, put it on again until it's worn out. No more effort really for each 'flat tire' event. No pumping up the tire to the proper pressure.
The savings are many, but only if the tyre does what they say it will. We will se eh!? 😉👍
Yes! I look forward to hearing and seeing how it works for you.
I'll just change a tube or go tubeless LOL. That's too much like work and with a solid tire I'm sure the ride will be one of a quite abnormal feel. (yep will take some getting used to) if you didn't get that in the right direction of rotation you will be kicking yourself after getting it installed LOL.
I have tried tannus tiers on a 2 wheeler recumbent and would not recommend it as you do seem a bit unstable on certain road surfaces. But on a trike the is no difference to a pneumatic tier and I would recommend any trike owner with full suspension to try them.
Hi Richard, having now ridden a few miles on it I agree with Paul. I would feel quite unstable on two wheels with these tyres. It feels like your rolling on marbles at times. Very disconcerting. But of course on a trike it makes no difference at all. Also Tannus state that it can take 60 to 100miles for these to "bed in" so we will see a bit further down the road I guess.
What is the website address
Too much like work. I will stick with my Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires, a Tire liner and a thorn resistant inner tube. Oh, what is the "Air Pressure" of that tire? I run my Schwalbe tires at 75 PSI.
90 psi
I'm a Schwalbe fan myself haven't had a flat yet 🧐
@@recumbenttriker6218 What's a flat. It's not in my mind at all.
I was also happy with my Shwalbe's James but we have to change to improve right? Seriosly, I'm just trialling this tyre so everyone else can see whether they're any good or not. If they are then I'll probably do the front wheels too. If not then you'll also see me doing a vlog where I remove it 😉👍
Nice video, Goog advice.! WelderX
Tim! Please check out IHOPPOET channel on UA-cam. He put a set on his trike for a tour he did last summer of the Erie Canal. Had a few issues but overall he was impressed with them. I put Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires on my trike after getting three flats in the span of two weeks with the Marathon Racers that the trike came shod with. No problems since.
Yes, I follow IHOPPET too. Apart from his poorly manufactured one he's been doing ok with them. I'm more about just testing this tyre for now. I was also happy with my Marra's but was intrigued by the idea of a solid. Lets see how it goes.
Tims Trike Trips ok. Good to know.
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you can get the rim specs online 😏
Yup, probably but I'd still want to measure it to be certain anyway.
I don't know about this 😟
Me either. Thats why I'm trying it out and showing everyone an honest opinion on it. 👍😉
I tried Tannus on my 700c Titan Tech Matrix rims....TOTAL FREAKIN' FAILURE!!!!!!!! THEY NEVER "SAT" AND MOST OF THE PINS NEVER HELD. DANGEROUS!!!!!!
Tim. Two things I didn't like.
1) You mention something called a P Tool, but no explanation of what it's for, where to get it etc.
2) No specification of the wheel you used. I've heard reference to hooked and hookless - maybe that applies only to tubeless tyres, but either way I'd have appreciated you at least mentioning whether there are any restrictions on using a "conventional" tubed wheel.
I'm not being snarky just for the hell of it. I don't know anything about the technology and I'm trying to find out - hence I'm looking at videos like this.
Haha. You were not so careful with your golden tools. I was biting my teeth on your behalve, in case a tirelever slip!!!
Thankfully all the force was pointing away from the crown jewels but... could have looked a bit scary I agree ha ha.
I did the same ....tires now on bike ✌️😜 shit rubber tire ... extrem strong rubber ... i did it with the red plastic sticks ...after that I was ko ...😂✌️... km tire Garantie 8000 km ... May Test the next time
Great video but you better get that wheel off your wife’s pillow😀
Red? It's just not right!
Hope you never break a spoke.
You can drill through the rubber to get to the spoke. ha ha
Drill through the rubber or not... I'd still rather not break a spoke 🙄
@@TimsTrikeTrips I've never broken a spoke with tannus tiers. It's one of the things people say because they are anti solid tiers and I've heard it before.
If you think about it . You don't need to drill the tier unless you loose the nipple. And I think that would be hard to do as the tier takes up all of the rim inside.
Super glue
Holy shit that is not easy. I will stick with my 5 min slime fix. I was out in no where 3 weeks ago with flat fixed in 5 on my way.
Woody
Tim, do you have updated opinion of your Tania Tyre?