B1 Commander, "Halt Where are you taking them?" (Queen Amidala and her escorts) Qui-gon, "I am the ambassador for the Supreme Chancellor, and I am taking them to Coruscant." B1 Commander, "Well, why didn't you say so? Move along." B1 Unit, "Roger Roger."
Answer is a Trade Federation victory, holding Gunray hostage isn't a long term plan if your locked in a single room surrounded by droids without the resources to sustain yourself for long term. Let alone you blew up the Trade Federation's best way of giving new orders to the droids, so they'd likely be operating on the last order to rescue Gunray and/or exterminate/capture resistance. Further a young Obiwan isn't likely to take out enough droids to rescue her. . Big question would be whether or not Palpatine decides to reject any treaty Padme is forced into and sends what little Republic Army/Armada there is to liberate the planet, since he'd kind of be forced into a corner when his own reason for replacing the last Chancellor was his failure to act.
Honestly, safety wise, A kill switch for droids makes sense as a programmer and must have made a whole lot of sense to the federation at the time. The droids had little to no sentient commanders on the planet naboo. Droids don't necesarrily make good decisions all the time when people are gone and someone must of still had the moral and responsible thinking that, if left alone, they could do something to make the federation look really bad. The gungans were willing to surrender at one point, but what if the droids accepted the surrender, but without orders from the top, they just forced them to stand their until dead because they just couldn't figure out what to do with them. also, what if there was no capture.kill order and instead the droids go on a killing spree, killing everyone on the planet. The problem with droids is that programing cheap ones can be tricky and will make decisions that you told them to do until you tell them to stop, or they run out of batteries. that's why in in the clone wars we see droid commanders to help make the smarter decisions that a sentient would want them to do, which the federation didn't have yet at this time. But we should still look at droids and ensure that they always have a kill switch to prevent them from harming your primary goal.
2:20 *IF* the Naboo carry out the exact same plan. The plan to begin with was a "Hail Mary" built around the fact the droid army being centrally controlled. The first consequence of the upgrade would've been the Naboo shifting tactics.
I would actuqlly disagree with Anakin dieing. While the rest of the fighters may get killed, Anakin has the best advantage anyone in Star Wars ever had: R2-D2.
Gungangs get put in prison camps. Padme and her guard get captured. Obi-Wan and Maul get interrupted by Droids forcing Obi-Wan to flee the fight (at least I'd like to see that). Obi-Wan's mission changes into gurilla warfare and has to try to rescue Padme and her guard while avoiding Darth Maul and his droids. Anakin probably dies. The battle goes on for a month until Palpatine can gather enough military forces to go to Naboo where the Trade Federation is defeated. Naboo goes on to be militaristic in a response to the prolonged lockdown. Padme doesn't reject her re-election as Queen and decides to focus inwards to Naboo instead of being a senator. Naboo ends up developing their military against the Republic's laws and seeks out alliances with the Separatist movement, having used its Plasma rich resources to fund its new military as leverage. From there anything could happen and Naboo may depending on how strong it is by Episode may even be able to demand the Trade Federation out of the alliance or demand the heads of Nute Gunray.
demands heads of nute gunray, Dooku obliges against the wishes of sidious and replaces them with more competant leader who the naboo like. dooku betrays sidious and doesn't sabatage separatists in a bid for power himself (and keeps the clone army for himself) clone and droids beat jedi together and then murder palpatine.
A dark thought: I have me a feeling if the Gungans were marched into a prison camp via capture, and the Trade Federation felt like it - depending on the tastes of the species behind the Colicoid Creation Nest - The Trade Federation would suddenly have a whole lot more Droidekas to go around in their private defence force...if you catch my drift.....
Star wars taught me that if you have a name, your either going to live through everything, or you're going to die suddenly. I think we all know how it went for me....
What if the droids were able to kill Jar Jar? Did you ever hear the tale of _Darth Plageus the resurrected?_ How would Palpatine losing the clandestine help of his former master affect his plans.
I love the angle from “What if Episode One Were Good” which is “why the f- would you send a child to a war zone when they clearly established the Jedi had a training academy…”
Making the droids dependant on the control ship was a safety measure: too many droid rebellions had happened, and the Trade Federation was smart enough to make sure that if it happened with THEIR battle droids they could shut it down at the press of a button... But not experienced enough to do so in a way to not cripple their army. They worked out the issues by the time of the Clone Wars.
🤔 . . . With the control ship out, I do agree that there Might be a pause in the Battledroids. Personally prefer, at the very least, a Brief shutdown that is long enough for the Naboo Starfighters to go back home, but then as they enter Naboo’s atmosphere, the Vulture droids pounce, they shoot down the N1s one by one, & Anakin makes a crash landing & is forced to survive that Naboo wilds until he is found…
I like this theory. Here are a few other ideas to throw out there. The gungans get wiped or enslaved, possibly both. I admit it has been a long time since I watched the prequels, so I may have some details wrong. If the droids never shut down, Neut still has a number of functional droids with him. Would Padme be able to capture him? The Trade Federation now has Padme and Naboo. The Republic has to get their 'military' together to liberate Naboo mean while gungan slaves mine plasma for the Federation. The prompt to visit Kamino doesn't happen for a few more years so they do not have access to the Clone Army. Padme survives but has to live with survivor's guilt. The gungans are dead or slaves, her pilots got wrecked and Qui-gon is dead. Operating alone against the TF Army, Obi-Wan has to retreat or die trying to rescue Padme. Since Padme ran off to fight on her own, how much power does the Republic have to intervene?
Any Army that is Controlled by a Central planner will lose to an army that is not. I will explain. A centrally controlled army will act as the leader will order. No initiative - no forward-thinking - no individual thinking - no out of the box tactics. A non-centrally thinking army - initiative - forward-thinking - individual thinking and tactics reflect this. The droid army (centrally controlled) was basically an assault force that was designed to overwhelm the adversary. It was. If it had free thinking, it would have run over the Republic, captured all the systems, and won the war. When the Clones activated their chips, they lost all the combat advantages they had prior to activation. They became humanoid robot droids for the Empire. Storm Troopers hated the Clones (because the clones had superior combat capabilities - but had said capabilities limited due to the chip's activation). The sad thing is that the clones knew it and recognized their superiority over the Storm Troopers. This infuriated the Storm Troopers to no end. Thus, the hatred between the Troopers and clones only magnified. The Empire wanted human droids. The empire wanted absolute obedience (instead of creative combat capabilities). If the Droids were able to think independently of the Controller, battle tactics would be different. The Republic would have lost and lost in all the major battles.
One thing we should also remember while speculating on this scenario is that Palpatine's initial plan FAILED the moment Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi boarded the control ship: we don't know the details but it called for a soft approach and having Amidala give in to the Trade Federation and sign their treaty, presumably so that Palpatine could gain sympathy points and get himself elected as Chancellor at the next elections... And then two Jedi show up and terrify his agents almost into giving in just by being around. What we see next is him trying to get the plan back on track by forcing Amidala to sign the treaty through the invasion and then by deploying Darth Maul, and when that fails and she arrives on Coruscant he immediately comes up with a new plan that sees him elected four years early and will have him improvise later to extend his LAST term in office long enough for the Clone Wars to start and him getting the emergency powers. Anakin was not a factor until AFTER the battle, as Palpatine didn't even know of him, or at least that he had the highest Force potential on record, before being told he had blown up the control ship. But once he knew of him he incorporated him in the plan, glad that the clusterfuck that forced him to improvise that much at least dropped in his lap a future apprentice he could use. So, what would happen if the Droid Army had not been dependant on the control ship? Not sure, but Palpatine STILL comes out on top, at least for the time being, and will select someone else as Dooku's future replacement.
Taking the what if approach on the droids being smarter. But only once the proper fighting began. Not before the jedi and queen escaped in the first place. 1) I think the fighting under the gungan shield would have begun sooner. As it is the droids deployed. Waited for the shield to be up then pounded on it a while as those in orbit considered what to do. The droids on the ground, at least some would have gone under the shield sooner. 2) There were droideka with the battle droids. Staggered with the regular droids this would have wrecked the hand shielded gungans. So the deaths would have begun even sooner. 3) The space battle. Later droid fighters were much better at shooting down skilled pilots. The naboo pilots were not up to the level of later clone pilots in my opinion. So they would be shot down much sooner. And Anakin even surviving to get his lucky shot off would be far less likely. 4) The droids on the ship would be less cautious on the approach of the crashed fighter and would have shot the fighter to swiss cheese before it could get power going again. So another reason Anakin dies. 5) Gunray if he has any contact with his people in that throne room knows how the battle is going. Yes he is a coward. But Amidala's pilots are dead, the gungans are dead. The droid army still has all her people at gunpoint. Shoot him and all her people die. Hold him too long and she dies as well. And there will be another to take his place. Sure he is a coward. But one of the first things he would try is showing he is more valuable alive than dead. With his ship destroyed and his army lost. Amidala could have shot him and lost nothing. Now she has to negotiate. What does this do later on? That depends on if Palpatine can still turn the election to his favour and be Chancellor. If he can't then he has to work even more from the shadows. If he does win anyway? Naboo is damaged. The Trade Federation came out ahead so his dark block still has room to work. And could be a better take down of the Republic.
Personally I believe naboo was a dry run to see how the judicial forces and jedi would behave in the coming war. It was also a test to see how well the Droid would function against an established army then resistance movement. The results of which delayed the clone wars by a decade. As the Droids with a control ship performed better than expected against a standing army it failed against resistance movements as one lucky shot would derail any military campaign. Had the Trade Federation killed Anikin and used independent droids from the beginning order 66 might have failed as without a current member of the order as a pawn the Jedi would have scattered into the galaxy thus putting the empire at risk of being destroyed shortly after order 66.
Anyone else find it weird that in a galaxy with literally billions of professional soldiers that actually know how to fight a war, more often then not it’s either a politician or a corporate head leading troops?
I would invest in skill trees I would actually use, but everytime I do that Luke Skywalker moans at me about "Concentrating to heavily on Dark Side powers"!!! The big hypocrite, I've seen him use force choke AND force lightning!!!!!
Anakin is still fine. Those Mk1 vulture droids require a droid control ship (and were never upgraded to not need one in canon and legends). More than that, they're VERY short range and only have about 30 minutes of non combat battery life. Anakin could, literally, fly in a straight line for a while, wait for the vultures to run out of juice, and fly away - assuming they were upgraded to work without a control signal (probably something that wouldn't happen, as fears of a droid rebellion were both common and reasonable considering what happened on couruscant with the last time large scale droid armies were used).
Well if the Trade Federation no longer used a centralized Droid Army, there would be no reason to send the fighters to destroy the control ship. Those fighters could instead be used for air support for the gungans. Giving them an advantage.
Now that we finally started seeing the early days of the Empire, in the Bad Batch, how about a few videos covering what we know of cannon, and of legend, of the Empire from Order 66 until either the start of Episode 4 or even the destruction of the second Death Star?
I disagree on Little Annie dying. I think it was the will of The Fonz that Annie did what he did. He probably wouldn't have even left the hangar. I could see him blasting the droids guarding the hangar, but then getting distracted by the Mechanic's Playground he found himself in. Ben gets to the hangar twenty minutes later to find him and R2-D2 halfway through building a new Naboo Fighter from the spare parts laying around... With upgrades, like shields taken from the Droidekkas. The will of The Force!! Blasted autocorrect. No I won't change it. Edit: Beyond that, I agree with Ailius. If the Naboo and Gungans would have changed tactics in response to the upgrades to the TF's Droid Army. Probably some sort of prolonged guerilla warfare lasting months to years.
I think another aspect of Padme's known history should be considered: She did give up a captured General Grievous (captured by the Gungan's during the Clone Wars,) in exchange for a captured Anakin Skywalker (captured by Count Dooku during the same time frame.)
The Naboo Security Forces would have figured out pretty quickly in the occupation that there was no controlling signal going to the droids on the ground. If that was the known state of affairs in the Federation Droid armies prior to hostilities, they would be looking to confirm that signal to exploit that weakness. In it's absence, they would have to take the longer, more methodical approach. They still have to hit the Lucrehulk, because with it still in orbit it's turbolaser batteries remain a grave threat. But now those orbital bombardment weapons become the primary target, and arguably and easier one. Meanwhile, the attack on the palace goes forward the same, but the ground battle is launched very differently. The Gungans would split their forces, a portion drawing the attention of the droid army as seen, but the remainder staying underwater until the bulk of the droids are out of range of Theed. Then, with the assistance of the Naboo Security Forces, Gungans would spill out of the city's waterways, much like Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Jar Jar did earlier. Combined, they overwhelm the remaining garrison, evacuate whatever civilians remain, and proceed to fortify the city. The diversionary Gungan force then makes a b-line for the city, by sea if need be, to reinforce it's defenders. From here, they can lay in wait, and force the droids either into close quarters urban combat, for which they seem rather ill suited, or a siege, for which they don't have the numbers. Assuming Anakin hasn't worked his magic, then the remaining Naboo starfighters can then withdraw, rearm, and refuel, and then launch strikes against the painfully slow column of droids still trying to track down the Gungans. The wild card here is the amount of air support the Trade Federation can muster. Much of the action on the ground is intended to take place while the space battle is raging and the droid fighters are distracted. But if that Lucrehulk carries a full compliment of fighters, there are not enough N-1s to harry the returning droid army and maintain air superiority over the city. They don't seem to have Hyena bombers in this one, but with enough time they could certainly strafe the city to rubble. In the end, it still might not be a battle they can win by force of arms alone, but they can buy time for the Chancellor to render aid, or sufficiently twist the Viceroy's arm. With a blaster to his head, and little chance of a politically clean victory, I suspect he would relent. That is why they can not fail to capture the Viceroy.
Even with the droids able to be independent it would still be serving as the best means of coordinating a large scale invasion, let alone without having to micromanage each droid the ship computer would be more likely acting as a tactical assistant to compensate for the individual droid being dumb. Thus there would be no means of telling until you destroy the command ship and the droids keep functioning.
I can definitely see the non control ship version going much the same as it did irl. Outnumbered or no, anakin is still INCREDIBLY force sensitive and the N1 is pretty good, and I can definitely see him proceeding to wipe the floor with the vulture droids, likely as the sole survivor of the fighter pilots. Padme wins the day by holding Gunray hostage, the gungans suffer terribly in the battle, and Naboo's ability to defend itself is severely mauled. This would also give a little more depth to Padme and Anakin's relationship; Anakin is wracked with survivor's guilt and Padme is burdened by the guilt that she (accidentally) employed a child soldier on what was absolutely meant to be a suicide mission. They bond over this shared experience and it gives a sort of poetic end to Padme's character arc; she sent a child to die as cannon fodder and that child eventually kills her.
Anakin as a trained pilot was still shot down a couple times, completely untrained in combat he may survive due to the force, but not wipe out vulture droids, which are more maneuverable and had more firepower and more numbers and actual combat skills.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I mean as a hypothetical scenario. In this hypothetical, these "early model" Vultures would obviously be less capable, and have that shown writ large, prompting the TF to undergo a massive upgrade program to a Vulture mk 2 which would better reflect what we see later in the movies, as sort of the next step in the arms race of droid fighters vs force sensitive pilots
I would like to see you do 'What if Palpatine dies before he could do Order 66 while General Grievous manage to escaped with the Clone Wars continues' video. That would be something.
I would disagree that Anakin would die. He got in fine enough, flying out and escaping while the Droid fighters had to reset and reorient themselves would be very plausible. If anything the only difference I can see would be that the Gungans had held as prisoners for a bit longer before Gunry calls the Droid commander and tells them to release them, and maybe the Trade Federation gets to evacuate their army as part of the peace deal.
The Naboo were never meant to win. Either the treaty was supposed to be signed or they were supposed to beat the local forces. Palpatine was going to use the invasion as a way to increase his standing by solving it one way or another. Judicial forces might have been used but they were a joke by that point so he likely would have sent in a bunch of Jedi to force an end to the invasion.
@@adventwolfbane There was no desired outcome of Naboo other than to create a situation for Palpatine to be elected and to stir up Separatist sympathy over the Republic's inability to respond to anything.
In universe the Trade Federation and others learned from the Battle of Naboo which is why the droids in the Clone Wars weren't centrally controlled but as a price for that, they became dumber.
I think you're approaching this from a flawed premise. If the droids were decentralized then there never would have been a need to attack the ship in orbit and thus the entire battle plan would have been different.
I still can't get over TPM saying that they 'mined' plasma....like did the writers even know what plasma is? They seemed to think it's some sort of liquid or ore or something....then again they also thought it was perfectly possible to travel all the way down to the core of a planet and through it which is...wow....these guys must have failed all their science classes as kids.
well, basically Naboo would have been screwed. they needed to be able to take out their entire command structure because they did not have the numbers or hardware to fight them. So you would likely get a protracted guerilla war that would devastate the planet.
As the soon to be Emperor was behind both sides of the war, why would he give one side such an advantage? He would have known that giving to much power to the Separatists in the form of better battle droids could lead their side to win against his still secret clone army. He made sure they were strong enough to carry out his long term plans instead of becoming a real threat to the Republic. This wasn't two sides fighting against each other. It was one overlord controlling two factions so that he could get what he wanted - his Galactic Empire.
I got a scenario for you that may be interesting, and scary to think about. What if that when the droids of the CIS become independent thinkers that they get sick and tired of being sent to die for the CIS decided to rebel against the entire galaxy. The premise is that the Tactical Droids analyzing the war realize they could have won easily on if they steamed roll the Republic if not due to the incompetent or cautious commanders, and later on, should have easily won if not for the tight first bureaucrats using the cheapest droids or giving them the cheapest weapons instead of the most effective mass-produce droids and weapons. And a program to win the war by any means, the Tactical Droids have all their organic commanders killed and then assume command to destroy the Republic under the new Droid Collective.
They WAS LOSING. In Space AND ESPECIALLY, arguably even more importantly, on the ground... So without this critical, all important, Achilles Heel here, that the way overconfident TF failed to adequately protect, the Gungan army as a whole either ALL get either captured or those that absolutely REFUSE to surrender all get gunned down. While crippling, if the loss of their mother ship DOESN'T stop them the fighter forces would get soon overwhelmed.. keep in mind its JUST THEM. No extra fighters or relief heavy ship an assault forces are coming. The GAR doesn't exist yet here.. the best thing an bout only thing that works is Padme an force Nute to surrender or she gets to shoot him in the head in front of everyone since it'll definitely FEEL necessary to her an hers an she just might do it.
A much better way for the Trade Federation to win the battle of Naboo would be to use Vulture Droids against the Gungans as they would not be able to destroy them.
Nailed it again as usual. I would like to think that the little Anakin, could still survive, but it still tracks, that he be out of the mix, yet another way, and be out the Syth lord's reach and influence. Perhaps crashing on the planet, an amnesiac ,but, alive wondering off to be adopted along with a collection of orphans.
@@GenerationTech Thanks guys. I'm glad I could ruin your grammar and spelling skills just a bit more. Actually, I am certain I have seen it spelled that way in print before, but, not sure where the h... it was. But that just means that there is more than one way to spell it.
Nah, the second-in-command of the Trade Federation would just throw Gunray under the bus- "He's compromised so disregard anything he says. I'm in charge now, raze the palace to the ground."
Maybe God Palpatine did this all? I doubt that a security force of this size would really have zero backup control, so perhaps he manipulated the events to make sure Anakin destroyed that ship, then shut down the droids himself? There's a fews of holes in this that could be explained easily I think.
For the pilots they actually wouldn't die after the control ship was destroyed. The droid starfighters were never meant or built to operate independently from their ships. Unlike the ground droids which could be modified for independent operation the fighters couldn't. They also had a very short operating time from their ships 30 minutes only. They also shut down when they got too far from their ships. So the pilots and Anakin would still survive. And if they got the call that the droid army on the ground was still fighting they likely would have gone to help. They may have been killed then though or they could have surrendered when Padme got caught again by the rest of the droids in the capital.
I have a few slight differences. Not sure if this was included or intended but what about the droid star fighters. Would they be upgraded to. Or still be independent. If the former than I can believe that,in the first few minutes of destruction of the ship a few pilots could survive. Perhaps, however only slight, Anakin would survive. But with Padme. I think she would survive most definitely. She would capture Gunray. And I’m willing to bet that even if Gungans were offered as a prisoner swap, she would never accept a deal without a agreement to leave Naboo. They could try storming the room. But it leave a strong chance for Gunray to be killed. That’s leaves them with two options. Who ever is left in charge is cut throat and would order them to storm the room which kills Gunray. Or he is to spineless and negotiates a withdrawal.
Realistically Gunray would win hands down: The Gungans are transported to a POW camp and used as cheap labor by TF. The pilots are slaughtered in space (they probably won't even make it to the capital ship) and the survivors will be captured by the droid forces once they land on the ground (Anakin will surely be one of those pilots captured thanks to the will of the force, most will be sent to POW camps as well, but Palpatine may have an interest in freeing and adopting young Skywalker). Padme and her men are surrounded, they have their entire army and people held hostage and I doubt they have the cold blood to shoot two unarmed individuals, so they would have no choice but to surrender, after that Padme will finally sign the treaty that legalizes the occupation of Naboo and then Padme is sent to a maximum security prison indefinitely ... And Obi wan, most likely, will end up dying trying to rescue Padme or fleeing the planet, but I doubt that he will succeed in any of those things because the atmosphere The planet will be full of surveillance by the TF and Obi wan is definitely not going to defeat an entire army of droids by himself, so basically Gunray wins, although without anyone knowing it in reality Palpatine wins.
If I an been a Disney writer I would reboot Bedknobs and Broomsticks with the Miss Eglantine Price, a cunning witch-in-training, decides to use her supernatural powers to defeat the Nazi menace is the living descendent of Jedi Ezra bridger that crashed on earth
Pretty much as that was Palpatine's grand plan to take over. Either force the Republic to grant him so many emergency powers indefinitely he can become a dictator or if the don't let the CIS win and he takes over as Sideous.
This is basically "what if other Lucrehulks didn't disappear during the Naboo's blockade". Which is a massive plot hole within the movie. Viceroy was so scared shitless of Sidious that I doubt he would openly give up if he had knowledge of space & land victory of his forces. Padme also wouldn't have the balls to just openly execute an unarmed, harmless civilian basically, it would jeopardize her whole political career. It would end up looking very nasty, and if the Republic interveened it would fuel the Separatist movement even more, especially since Jedi were involved. No one would save Obi Wan in time on Geonosis, Jedi order wouldn't risk it for 1 jedi knight. With no battle of geonosis the Republic would be too late to react to the clone Wars. And Palpatine would be able to corrupt Jedi Bob to become his new apprentice. With Darth Bob on his side he would be truly unstoppable.
B1 Commander, "Halt Where are you taking them?" (Queen Amidala and her escorts)
Qui-gon, "I am the ambassador for the Supreme Chancellor, and I am taking them to Coruscant."
B1 Commander, "Well, why didn't you say so? Move along."
B1 Unit, "Roger Roger."
Answer is a Trade Federation victory, holding Gunray hostage isn't a long term plan if your locked in a single room surrounded by droids without the resources to sustain yourself for long term. Let alone you blew up the Trade Federation's best way of giving new orders to the droids, so they'd likely be operating on the last order to rescue Gunray and/or exterminate/capture resistance. Further a young Obiwan isn't likely to take out enough droids to rescue her.
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Big question would be whether or not Palpatine decides to reject any treaty Padme is forced into and sends what little Republic Army/Armada there is to liberate the planet, since he'd kind of be forced into a corner when his own reason for replacing the last Chancellor was his failure to act.
Honestly, safety wise, A kill switch for droids makes sense as a programmer and must have made a whole lot of sense to the federation at the time. The droids had little to no sentient commanders on the planet naboo. Droids don't necesarrily make good decisions all the time when people are gone and someone must of still had the moral and responsible thinking that, if left alone, they could do something to make the federation look really bad. The gungans were willing to surrender at one point, but what if the droids accepted the surrender, but without orders from the top, they just forced them to stand their until dead because they just couldn't figure out what to do with them. also, what if there was no capture.kill order and instead the droids go on a killing spree, killing everyone on the planet. The problem with droids is that programing cheap ones can be tricky and will make decisions that you told them to do until you tell them to stop, or they run out of batteries. that's why in in the clone wars we see droid commanders to help make the smarter decisions that a sentient would want them to do, which the federation didn't have yet at this time. But we should still look at droids and ensure that they always have a kill switch to prevent them from harming your primary goal.
Legend has it the last transmission received from naboo was "They're sending in the supers, watch those wrist rock(explosion)......"
2:20 *IF* the Naboo carry out the exact same plan. The plan to begin with was a "Hail Mary" built around the fact the droid army being centrally controlled. The first consequence of the upgrade would've been the Naboo shifting tactics.
expect the upgrade was said to be secret in the video. pay attention.
I would actuqlly disagree with Anakin dieing. While the rest of the fighters may get killed, Anakin has the best advantage anyone in Star Wars ever had: R2-D2.
He can’t die sadly, he would get the extra+ plot armor
@Overwatch_Elite3650 I mean, it's R2-D2 telling the story, lol. He has unlimited plot armor.
Gungangs get put in prison camps.
Padme and her guard get captured.
Obi-Wan and Maul get interrupted by Droids forcing Obi-Wan to flee the fight (at least I'd like to see that).
Obi-Wan's mission changes into gurilla warfare and has to try to rescue Padme and her guard while avoiding Darth Maul and his droids.
Anakin probably dies.
The battle goes on for a month until Palpatine can gather enough military forces to go to Naboo where the Trade Federation is defeated.
Naboo goes on to be militaristic in a response to the prolonged lockdown.
Padme doesn't reject her re-election as Queen and decides to focus inwards to Naboo instead of being a senator.
Naboo ends up developing their military against the Republic's laws and seeks out alliances with the Separatist movement, having used its Plasma rich resources to fund its new military as leverage.
From there anything could happen and Naboo may depending on how strong it is by Episode may even be able to demand the Trade Federation out of the alliance or demand the heads of Nute Gunray.
demands heads of nute gunray, Dooku obliges against the wishes of sidious and replaces them with more competant leader who the naboo like.
dooku betrays sidious and doesn't sabatage separatists in a bid for power himself (and keeps the clone army for himself) clone and droids beat jedi together and then murder palpatine.
Very detailed theories! 😁👍
You're ignoring that Palpatine would need to get the plan back on track. The whole point of Naboo was to get him to power.
@@LordVader1094 Palpatine gets in power no matter how Naboo turns out. The crisis alone is what caused the vote of no confidence.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 beautiful. I like droids murdering palpatine part
A dark thought: I have me a feeling if the Gungans were marched into a prison camp via capture, and the Trade Federation felt like it - depending on the tastes of the species behind the Colicoid Creation Nest - The Trade Federation would suddenly have a whole lot more Droidekas to go around in their private defence force...if you catch my drift.....
WHO WOULD WIN?
A loser with plot armor
OR?
900,000 death stars without the plot armor.
Your saying Anakin is a loser?
That’s why I believe in the butterfly effect, a little change to the droids computer and you got this
I love "if there were no plot armor" vids.
The strongest power in the galaxy is not the force, it is the power of plot convenience.
Which is a force power
Star wars taught me that if you have a name, your either going to live through everything, or you're going to die suddenly. I think we all know how it went for me....
That is called the Force.
@@CT5555_ Rip my boi Fives. You were the last hope to save the republic and Jedi.
What if the droids were able to kill Jar Jar?
Did you ever hear the tale of _Darth Plageus the resurrected?_
How would Palpatine losing the clandestine help of his former master affect his plans.
I like the theory that jar jar was just puppet of plageus. He's always been in the perfect place at the perfect time.
I thought you were going to say, millions of voices cried out at once, as if it sheer ecstasy! 😀
JarJar was the secret sith lord. Basically Palpatine and Plaguises puppet masters
I love the angle from “What if Episode One Were Good” which is “why the f- would you send a child to a war zone when they clearly established the Jedi had a training academy…”
This changes everything! And I like it for some reasons!
Spinning is a neat trick
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If the droids were independent on Naboo, then it would have looked much more like the Theed and battlefront 2...
The clones get annihilated trying to grab ion weapons and then massacre the droids defending the doors and the throne room?
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Using slugs specificly against force users any reflects might just ricochet especialy on more thicker droids
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Making the droids dependant on the control ship was a safety measure: too many droid rebellions had happened, and the Trade Federation was smart enough to make sure that if it happened with THEIR battle droids they could shut it down at the press of a button... But not experienced enough to do so in a way to not cripple their army.
They worked out the issues by the time of the Clone Wars.
🤔 . . . With the control ship out, I do agree that there Might be a pause in the Battledroids. Personally prefer, at the very least, a Brief shutdown that is long enough for the Naboo Starfighters to go back home, but then as they enter Naboo’s atmosphere, the Vulture droids pounce, they shoot down the N1s one by one, & Anakin makes a crash landing & is forced to survive that Naboo wilds until he is found…
I like this theory. Here are a few other ideas to throw out there. The gungans get wiped or enslaved, possibly both. I admit it has been a long time since I watched the prequels, so I may have some details wrong. If the droids never shut down, Neut still has a number of functional droids with him. Would Padme be able to capture him? The Trade Federation now has Padme and Naboo. The Republic has to get their 'military' together to liberate Naboo mean while gungan slaves mine plasma for the Federation. The prompt to visit Kamino doesn't happen for a few more years so they do not have access to the Clone Army.
Padme survives but has to live with survivor's guilt. The gungans are dead or slaves, her pilots got wrecked and Qui-gon is dead. Operating alone against the TF Army, Obi-Wan has to retreat or die trying to rescue Padme. Since Padme ran off to fight on her own, how much power does the Republic have to intervene?
Well Naboo and the Gungans would basically be doomed.
Any Army that is Controlled by a Central planner will lose to an army that is not. I will explain.
A centrally controlled army will act as the leader will order. No initiative - no forward-thinking - no individual thinking - no out of the box tactics.
A non-centrally thinking army - initiative - forward-thinking - individual thinking and tactics reflect this.
The droid army (centrally controlled) was basically an assault force that was designed to overwhelm the adversary. It was.
If it had free thinking, it would have run over the Republic, captured all the systems, and won the war.
When the Clones activated their chips, they lost all the combat advantages they had prior to activation. They became humanoid robot droids for the Empire.
Storm Troopers hated the Clones (because the clones had superior combat capabilities - but had said capabilities limited due to the chip's activation).
The sad thing is that the clones knew it and recognized their superiority over the Storm Troopers. This infuriated the Storm Troopers to no end. Thus, the hatred between the Troopers and clones only magnified.
The Empire wanted human droids. The empire wanted absolute obedience (instead of creative combat capabilities).
If the Droids were able to think independently of the Controller, battle tactics would be different. The Republic would have lost and lost in all the major battles.
One thing we should also remember while speculating on this scenario is that Palpatine's initial plan FAILED the moment Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi boarded the control ship: we don't know the details but it called for a soft approach and having Amidala give in to the Trade Federation and sign their treaty, presumably so that Palpatine could gain sympathy points and get himself elected as Chancellor at the next elections... And then two Jedi show up and terrify his agents almost into giving in just by being around.
What we see next is him trying to get the plan back on track by forcing Amidala to sign the treaty through the invasion and then by deploying Darth Maul, and when that fails and she arrives on Coruscant he immediately comes up with a new plan that sees him elected four years early and will have him improvise later to extend his LAST term in office long enough for the Clone Wars to start and him getting the emergency powers. Anakin was not a factor until AFTER the battle, as Palpatine didn't even know of him, or at least that he had the highest Force potential on record, before being told he had blown up the control ship. But once he knew of him he incorporated him in the plan, glad that the clusterfuck that forced him to improvise that much at least dropped in his lap a future apprentice he could use.
So, what would happen if the Droid Army had not been dependant on the control ship? Not sure, but Palpatine STILL comes out on top, at least for the time being, and will select someone else as Dooku's future replacement.
I do love alternate realities.
Taking the what if approach on the droids being smarter. But only once the proper fighting began. Not before the jedi and queen escaped in the first place.
1) I think the fighting under the gungan shield would have begun sooner. As it is the droids deployed. Waited for the shield to be up then pounded on it a while as those in orbit considered what to do. The droids on the ground, at least some would have gone under the shield sooner.
2) There were droideka with the battle droids. Staggered with the regular droids this would have wrecked the hand shielded gungans. So the deaths would have begun even sooner.
3) The space battle. Later droid fighters were much better at shooting down skilled pilots. The naboo pilots were not up to the level of later clone pilots in my opinion. So they would be shot down much sooner. And Anakin even surviving to get his lucky shot off would be far less likely.
4) The droids on the ship would be less cautious on the approach of the crashed fighter and would have shot the fighter to swiss cheese before it could get power going again. So another reason Anakin dies.
5) Gunray if he has any contact with his people in that throne room knows how the battle is going. Yes he is a coward. But Amidala's pilots are dead, the gungans are dead. The droid army still has all her people at gunpoint. Shoot him and all her people die. Hold him too long and she dies as well. And there will be another to take his place. Sure he is a coward. But one of the first things he would try is showing he is more valuable alive than dead. With his ship destroyed and his army lost. Amidala could have shot him and lost nothing. Now she has to negotiate.
What does this do later on? That depends on if Palpatine can still turn the election to his favour and be Chancellor. If he can't then he has to work even more from the shadows. If he does win anyway? Naboo is damaged. The Trade Federation came out ahead so his dark block still has room to work. And could be a better take down of the Republic.
Personally I believe naboo was a dry run to see how the judicial forces and jedi would behave in the coming war. It was also a test to see how well the Droid would function against an established army then resistance movement.
The results of which delayed the clone wars by a decade. As the Droids with a control ship performed better than expected against a standing army it failed against resistance movements as one lucky shot would derail any military campaign.
Had the Trade Federation killed Anikin and used independent droids from the beginning order 66 might have failed as without a current member of the order as a pawn the Jedi would have scattered into the galaxy thus putting the empire at risk of being destroyed shortly after order 66.
Anyone else find it weird that in a galaxy with literally billions of professional soldiers that actually know how to fight a war, more often then not it’s either a politician or a corporate head leading troops?
I would invest in skill trees I would actually use, but everytime I do that Luke Skywalker moans at me about "Concentrating to heavily on Dark Side powers"!!! The big hypocrite, I've seen him use force choke AND force lightning!!!!!
Anakin is still fine. Those Mk1 vulture droids require a droid control ship (and were never upgraded to not need one in canon and legends). More than that, they're VERY short range and only have about 30 minutes of non combat battery life. Anakin could, literally, fly in a straight line for a while, wait for the vultures to run out of juice, and fly away - assuming they were upgraded to work without a control signal (probably something that wouldn't happen, as fears of a droid rebellion were both common and reasonable considering what happened on couruscant with the last time large scale droid armies were used).
And THIS is why Star Wars: What If needs to happen
Well if the Trade Federation no longer used a centralized Droid Army, there would be no reason to send the fighters to destroy the control ship. Those fighters could instead be used for air support for the gungans. Giving them an advantage.
Now that we finally started seeing the early days of the Empire, in the Bad Batch, how about a few videos covering what we know of cannon, and of legend, of the Empire from Order 66 until either the start of Episode 4 or even the destruction of the second Death Star?
Even the most solid part of Padme’s plan was rather flimsy. Only 10 year old ignoring orders kept her from being obliterated by Droidekas.
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I disagree on Little Annie dying. I think it was the will of The Fonz that Annie did what he did. He probably wouldn't have even left the hangar.
I could see him blasting the droids guarding the hangar, but then getting distracted by the Mechanic's Playground he found himself in. Ben gets to the hangar twenty minutes later to find him and R2-D2 halfway through building a new Naboo Fighter from the spare parts laying around... With upgrades, like shields taken from the Droidekkas.
The will of The Force!! Blasted autocorrect. No I won't change it.
Edit: Beyond that, I agree with Ailius. If the Naboo and Gungans would have changed tactics in response to the upgrades to the TF's Droid Army. Probably some sort of prolonged guerilla warfare lasting months to years.
I still love the battle of Naboo.
I think another aspect of Padme's known history should be considered: She did give up a captured General Grievous (captured by the Gungan's during the Clone Wars,) in exchange for a captured Anakin Skywalker (captured by Count Dooku during the same time frame.)
I love how the Naboo thought electing a teenager would be a good idea, they're lucky she actually had some common sense.
EP II she said they wanted to amend the constitution to allow her to serve after her two terms were up....
The Naboo Security Forces would have figured out pretty quickly in the occupation that there was no controlling signal going to the droids on the ground. If that was the known state of affairs in the Federation Droid armies prior to hostilities, they would be looking to confirm that signal to exploit that weakness. In it's absence, they would have to take the longer, more methodical approach. They still have to hit the Lucrehulk, because with it still in orbit it's turbolaser batteries remain a grave threat. But now those orbital bombardment weapons become the primary target, and arguably and easier one. Meanwhile, the attack on the palace goes forward the same, but the ground battle is launched very differently.
The Gungans would split their forces, a portion drawing the attention of the droid army as seen, but the remainder staying underwater until the bulk of the droids are out of range of Theed. Then, with the assistance of the Naboo Security Forces, Gungans would spill out of the city's waterways, much like Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Jar Jar did earlier. Combined, they overwhelm the remaining garrison, evacuate whatever civilians remain, and proceed to fortify the city. The diversionary Gungan force then makes a b-line for the city, by sea if need be, to reinforce it's defenders. From here, they can lay in wait, and force the droids either into close quarters urban combat, for which they seem rather ill suited, or a siege, for which they don't have the numbers.
Assuming Anakin hasn't worked his magic, then the remaining Naboo starfighters can then withdraw, rearm, and refuel, and then launch strikes against the painfully slow column of droids still trying to track down the Gungans. The wild card here is the amount of air support the Trade Federation can muster. Much of the action on the ground is intended to take place while the space battle is raging and the droid fighters are distracted. But if that Lucrehulk carries a full compliment of fighters, there are not enough N-1s to harry the returning droid army and maintain air superiority over the city. They don't seem to have Hyena bombers in this one, but with enough time they could certainly strafe the city to rubble. In the end, it still might not be a battle they can win by force of arms alone, but they can buy time for the Chancellor to render aid, or sufficiently twist the Viceroy's arm. With a blaster to his head, and little chance of a politically clean victory, I suspect he would relent.
That is why they can not fail to capture the Viceroy.
Even with the droids able to be independent it would still be serving as the best means of coordinating a large scale invasion, let alone without having to micromanage each droid the ship computer would be more likely acting as a tactical assistant to compensate for the individual droid being dumb. Thus there would be no means of telling until you destroy the command ship and the droids keep functioning.
8:20 I felt blue-balled when you didn't segue into a Skillshare sponsored segment!
Would anyone ever discover than spinning is a good trick…?
Didn't seem to help him on Mustufar.
I can definitely see the non control ship version going much the same as it did irl. Outnumbered or no, anakin is still INCREDIBLY force sensitive and the N1 is pretty good, and I can definitely see him proceeding to wipe the floor with the vulture droids, likely as the sole survivor of the fighter pilots. Padme wins the day by holding Gunray hostage, the gungans suffer terribly in the battle, and Naboo's ability to defend itself is severely mauled. This would also give a little more depth to Padme and Anakin's relationship; Anakin is wracked with survivor's guilt and Padme is burdened by the guilt that she (accidentally) employed a child soldier on what was absolutely meant to be a suicide mission. They bond over this shared experience and it gives a sort of poetic end to Padme's character arc; she sent a child to die as cannon fodder and that child eventually kills her.
Anakin as a trained pilot was still shot down a couple times, completely untrained in combat he may survive due to the force, but not wipe out vulture droids, which are more maneuverable and had more firepower and more numbers and actual combat skills.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 I mean as a hypothetical scenario. In this hypothetical, these "early model" Vultures would obviously be less capable, and have that shown writ large, prompting the TF to undergo a massive upgrade program to a Vulture mk 2 which would better reflect what we see later in the movies, as sort of the next step in the arms race of droid fighters vs force sensitive pilots
I would like to see you do 'What if Palpatine dies before he could do Order 66 while General Grievous manage to escaped with the Clone Wars continues' video. That would be something.
I would disagree that Anakin would die. He got in fine enough, flying out and escaping while the Droid fighters had to reset and reorient themselves would be very plausible.
If anything the only difference I can see would be that the Gungans had held as prisoners for a bit longer before Gunry calls the Droid commander and tells them to release them, and maybe the Trade Federation gets to evacuate their army as part of the peace deal.
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what if admiral radus survived the battle of scarif
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Imagine if someone remembered, or weren't sith controlled, to close the hangar doors 🤣
If the Trade Federation had actually won, would Palpatine have send Judicial forces against them?
He would have had to and doing so would feed into his plan as it would stir up the separatist movement.
The Naboo were never meant to win. Either the treaty was supposed to be signed or they were supposed to beat the local forces. Palpatine was going to use the invasion as a way to increase his standing by solving it one way or another. Judicial forces might have been used but they were a joke by that point so he likely would have sent in a bunch of Jedi to force an end to the invasion.
@@adventwolfbane There was no desired outcome of Naboo other than to create a situation for Palpatine to be elected and to stir up Separatist sympathy over the Republic's inability to respond to anything.
What if Crosshair never joined the Empire!
In universe the Trade Federation and others learned from the Battle of Naboo which is why the droids in the Clone Wars weren't centrally controlled but as a price for that, they became dumber.
2:36 They'll make their prisoners apply lotion in exchange for AutoTrader magazines
What if's? in Star Wars always make it more interesting.
I think you're approaching this from a flawed premise. If the droids were decentralized then there never would have been a need to attack the ship in orbit and thus the entire battle plan would have been different.
I still can't get over TPM saying that they 'mined' plasma....like did the writers even know what plasma is? They seemed to think it's some sort of liquid or ore or something....then again they also thought it was perfectly possible to travel all the way down to the core of a planet and through it which is...wow....these guys must have failed all their science classes as kids.
They were probably thinking lava or something hehe
well, basically Naboo would have been screwed. they needed to be able to take out their entire command structure because they did not have the numbers or hardware to fight them. So you would likely get a protracted guerilla war that would devastate the planet.
As the soon to be Emperor was behind both sides of the war, why would he give one side such an advantage? He would have known that giving to much power to the Separatists in the form of better battle droids could lead their side to win against his still secret clone army. He made sure they were strong enough to carry out his long term plans instead of becoming a real threat to the Republic.
This wasn't two sides fighting against each other. It was one overlord controlling two factions so that he could get what he wanted - his Galactic Empire.
5:07 that poor dragonfly looks like it's infested with mites.
I love Your video! Just as good.
I got a scenario for you that may be interesting, and scary to think about. What if that when the droids of the CIS become independent thinkers that they get sick and tired of being sent to die for the CIS decided to rebel against the entire galaxy. The premise is that the Tactical Droids analyzing the war realize they could have won easily on if they steamed roll the Republic if not due to the incompetent or cautious commanders, and later on, should have easily won if not for the tight first bureaucrats using the cheapest droids or giving them the cheapest weapons instead of the most effective mass-produce droids and weapons. And a program to win the war by any means, the Tactical Droids have all their organic commanders killed and then assume command to destroy the Republic under the new Droid Collective.
They WAS LOSING. In Space AND ESPECIALLY, arguably even more importantly, on the ground...
So without this critical, all important, Achilles Heel here, that the way overconfident TF failed to adequately protect, the Gungan army as a whole either ALL get either captured or those that absolutely REFUSE to surrender all get gunned down. While crippling, if the loss of their mother ship DOESN'T stop them the fighter forces would get soon overwhelmed.. keep in mind its JUST THEM. No extra fighters or relief heavy ship an assault forces are coming. The GAR doesn't exist yet here.. the best thing an bout only thing that works is Padme an force Nute to surrender or she gets to shoot him in the head in front of everyone since it'll definitely FEEL necessary to her an hers an she just might do it.
Yes, imagine Trade Fed's other leaders answer to such a request: "Sorry Nute, we've just appointed your successor!"
A much better way for the Trade Federation to win the battle of Naboo would be to use Vulture Droids against the Gungans as they would not be able to destroy them.
The yuuzhanvong invaded during the clone wars
Didn't invad, only sent a scout ship
The droids on Naboo were the OOM droids and needed the control ship. B1 droids were the more independent upgrade.
How would the battle of Mon Cala played out? Would the Gunguns still have helped the Republic?
Lol the Joe Dirt scene.
What if Obi wan had the high ground in a new hope?
Nailed it again as usual.
I would like to think that the little Anakin, could still survive, but it still tracks, that he be out of the mix, yet another way, and be out the Syth lord's reach and influence.
Perhaps crashing on the planet, an amnesiac ,but, alive wondering off to be adopted along with a collection of orphans.
Spelling the sith “syth” is my new my favorite thing
@@GenerationTech Thanks guys. I'm glad I could ruin your grammar and spelling skills just a bit more.
Actually, I am certain I have seen it spelled that way in print before, but, not sure where the h... it was. But that just means that there is more than one way to spell it.
Nah, the second-in-command of the Trade Federation would just throw Gunray under the bus- "He's compromised so disregard anything he says. I'm in charge now, raze the palace to the ground."
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Maybe God Palpatine did this all? I doubt that a security force of this size would really have zero backup control, so perhaps he manipulated the events to make sure Anakin destroyed that ship, then shut down the droids himself? There's a fews of holes in this that could be explained easily I think.
For the pilots they actually wouldn't die after the control ship was destroyed. The droid starfighters were never meant or built to operate independently from their ships. Unlike the ground droids which could be modified for independent operation the fighters couldn't. They also had a very short operating time from their ships 30 minutes only. They also shut down when they got too far from their ships. So the pilots and Anakin would still survive. And if they got the call that the droid army on the ground was still fighting they likely would have gone to help. They may have been killed then though or they could have surrendered when Padme got caught again by the rest of the droids in the capital.
4:05 "Outnumbered 40:1"
YOUR FORCE WILL SOON BE UNDONE
"should me make the droids independent?" nahh I dont think it would make a diffrent
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What if a number of them joined the Jedi Order or the Sith?
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I would like to see Disney do a what if Series of starwars, be interesting to see, image Asoka taking Annakins place
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I have a few slight differences. Not sure if this was included or intended but what about the droid star fighters. Would they be upgraded to. Or still be independent. If the former than I can believe that,in the first few minutes of destruction of the ship a few pilots could survive. Perhaps, however only slight, Anakin would survive. But with Padme. I think she would survive most definitely. She would capture Gunray. And I’m willing to bet that even if Gungans were offered as a prisoner swap, she would never accept a deal without a agreement to leave Naboo. They could try storming the room. But it leave a strong chance for Gunray to be killed. That’s leaves them with two options. Who ever is left in charge is cut throat and would order them to storm the room which kills Gunray. Or he is to spineless and negotiates a withdrawal.
Are we just ignoring that Jar Jar is the *true* sith-master?
I feel the geth of mass effect since geth at networked to each other with an making a hive mind out can take out the b1 battle droids
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We must get the starship back into space
Realistically Gunray would win hands down: The Gungans are transported to a POW camp and used as cheap labor by TF. The pilots are slaughtered in space (they probably won't even make it to the capital ship) and the survivors will be captured by the droid forces once they land on the ground (Anakin will surely be one of those pilots captured thanks to the will of the force, most will be sent to POW camps as well, but Palpatine may have an interest in freeing and adopting young Skywalker). Padme and her men are surrounded, they have their entire army and people held hostage and I doubt they have the cold blood to shoot two unarmed individuals, so they would have no choice but to surrender, after that Padme will finally sign the treaty that legalizes the occupation of Naboo and then Padme is sent to a maximum security prison indefinitely ... And Obi wan, most likely, will end up dying trying to rescue Padme or fleeing the planet, but I doubt that he will succeed in any of those things because the atmosphere The planet will be full of surveillance by the TF and Obi wan is definitely not going to defeat an entire army of droids by himself, so basically Gunray wins, although without anyone knowing it in reality Palpatine wins.
can you plz continue the sepratist alliance vs earth series plz
Or Jar Jar would have showed his true nature and taken over as a Sith Lord should.
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What if Naboo repaired & reprogrammed the battle droids left behind?
Machines would rule the universe.
Dang I haven't seen a video in my suggestion in awhile
What happened to Mace Windu’s lightsaber after he was disarmed by Anakin?
What if the CIS outphased manufacturing the b1 battledroid with mass manufacturing the commando droids for combat
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If I an been a Disney writer I would reboot Bedknobs and Broomsticks with the Miss Eglantine Price, a cunning witch-in-training, decides to use her supernatural powers to defeat the Nazi menace is the living descendent of Jedi Ezra bridger that crashed on earth
it puts the lotion on it skin
it would be enough if they left more than one there if you look at the beginning
Anakin wouldn't die... to big of a plot armor.
So I guess the Clone Wars would still happen, but without a sand hating boy with attachment issues
Pretty much as that was Palpatine's grand plan to take over. Either force the Republic to grant him so many emergency powers indefinitely he can become a dictator or if the don't let the CIS win and he takes over as Sideous.
This is basically "what if other Lucrehulks didn't disappear during the Naboo's blockade". Which is a massive plot hole within the movie.
Viceroy was so scared shitless of Sidious that I doubt he would openly give up if he had knowledge of space & land victory of his forces. Padme also wouldn't have the balls to just openly execute an unarmed, harmless civilian basically, it would jeopardize her whole political career.
It would end up looking very nasty, and if the Republic interveened it would fuel the Separatist movement even more, especially since Jedi were involved. No one would save Obi Wan in time on Geonosis, Jedi order wouldn't risk it for 1 jedi knight. With no battle of geonosis the Republic would be too late to react to the clone Wars.
And Palpatine would be able to corrupt Jedi Bob to become his new apprentice. With Darth Bob on his side he would be truly unstoppable.
Ok this is new fair enough👍
Only thing that matters is qui gon falls...
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So, was that one lucrehulk the only control ship?
The other lucrehulks couldn't also control droids?
Ok, just found out the others left, how convenient, when their actions we deemed legal.