One of the reasons I enjoy watching other folks cut trees, is to “experience” the scenarios without worrying about the dangers. Thanks for showing your mistakes - we can all learn from them. You have to do a lot of chainsaw work to see all the potential situations. This is accelerated learning!
Good to be a neighbor. Someone will stay warm this winter and someone will get some good lumber from the saw logs. Also, great to spend some time with Dad and enjoy the coffee together. The 500i is a beast.
Thank you Nathan. I used to spend days out in my trees thinning, cutting dead stands for firewood and cleaning up after storms. I enjoyed it immensely and wore myself out in the process. Now I watch videos of folks doing it, relive some of the fun and remember the satisfaction when it's done. You may be living MY best life.
I was going to ask about why you only used the one side of the log splitter, glad you cleared it up at the end. Good to see you and your dad out getting stuff done together! Take care!
Trees under tension like that I like to make a bottom cut 1st, minimizes the splitting. Dangerous situation for sure. Was too much weight on the right (top) so it split. Still got your limbs & are above room temperature, so you're OK Nathan, because you were vigilant & observant.
I been running into the same thing. We are in the next county over in Russell co. And its a mess. I been using the bobcat with grapple to hold the logs to keep from splitting them. Works pretty slick.
Great to see you and your dad working together! I was wondering why he didn't use both sides of the log splitter but you explained it at the end. Too bad that you don't have other volunteers to help out. Maybe that will come in later episodes.
It is awesome how close you and your dad are. My dad is my best friend. When I was 17, if you would have told me that, I would have called you a liar. But the older I get, the smarter he gets. I guess he's learned a bit as he got older.
Ethan, I do not think you made a mistake. It is the saws fault. Lucky you, I am willing to let you ship it to me (at your expense of course) and take a look. Figure I could get it diagnosed, repaired and sent back in a few years or decade. I know, awful generous offer from me. But hey, just trying to help where I can! Love how you redecorated the office! About time for an update on Bruno's clock collection. Thanks for the video and great of you to help some folks out there. Say hey to the Mamma Cat and the Rooster for me.
We never cut any logs out but my dad always started in the top of the tree after bringing the tree down. We started at the top in the limbs get all them cut up and then start cutting up the log
Really wish I could help my dad and I cut up a lot of wood and would give it to people who needed it. It feels good to help people who can't do for themselves anymore for whatever the reason is Most people were disabled or just too old to safely do it
When I cut a log like that, I will cut up from the bottom about 4". That gives me a relief cut and you have enough wood to prevent it from pinching. Then cut from the top. You can also do a plunge cut before you cut from the top. Good luck and stay safe.
I was watching you start that cut thinking "you need to undercut it first!",and sure enough that happened. I usually start under coming up at least a quarter of the way before down cutting.
@Nathan my experience on a leaner like that. Cut from underneath. On my side pull the base of the bar to make a 30°cut. Drive a wedge, then cut from the top down. Reason for the wedge. It helps push the log away as it falls away from the final cut. Works about 50% of the time. ( btw can I have 500i back please😅)
Interesting goggles. I imagine that the mesh would be virtually unnoticeable that close up to the eyeballs. That split on the oak was nearly inevitable; that much tension on a long, heavy trunk so far up in the air.
Nathan, don't beat yourself up about the cantilevered split log. I am sure that you have learned a lesson from this. Truth be told, most projects of this nature, provide at least a couple of lessons before it's over. One really good thing I noticed is that you kept your self clear of the falling cantilever. You are doing just fine, considering you are working on a slope. Stay safe, young man.
I would have just done a match cut on the red oak and not a bore cut. Come up from underneath first and cut it a little bit but don't let it pinch your bar then go directly above it from the top and cut it off. You are right though things can always happen and i wasn't there looking at it in person. You never know how much pressure is on something either. Also in a situation like this one i have been known now and then to cut a small notch from the under side just like you would do on standing timber then come down from the top. Often times it will go down kind of gradual that way and slower. Be safe Nthan and happy cutting.
Hey neighbor, whenever you use different words or mess up your dialogue, I'm right there with you. We all do it😂 we just got to straighten back up and go forward 🤔👍
Had you done an under cute. Then full throttle cut down above undercut. Your saw is cutting real good you shouldn't have any problems. Red oak splits vary easy so always do an under cut to relieve any tension.
Sorry Nathan, what does bucking mean in Tennessee, Means something entirely different in Texas. Bucking here is riding a farm animal, or installing a drill stem cage on a rotating piece of drill stem pipe.
500I is a good rpm saw. In 70s I upgraded from from a rpm saw to a bigger hp saw. To cut big frozen hard maple. Felling a straight up tree. After knocking tree doing the back cut my new 075AV Stihl cut so fast it could cut tree off before it started to fall. Only once I cut it off and tree fell down flat on the bar. And it stood up straight. Without a wedge I actually pushed it over by hand by leaning into it. Vary dangerous do not advise.
I am certainly no expert on chain saw usage but I do have experience as a woodworker/teacher of woodworking. When that tree was knocked over a huge amount of stress was imparted into the wood. It is possible/probable that the wood was split on the inside as part of the wind event/blowdown and there wasn't any real way to cut it without the splits making themselves known. Heads up for backing away ! Safety first!!
Yup. It was that initial cut on the bore cut that was the problem. You could have just not done that, or you could have left more wood. Either probably would have worked. However, having said that, fallen trees like this have some crazy internal stresses. Many times even greater stresses that when standing.
Red oak splits, burns and heats real good but also builds up creosote in your flu real fast. Be sure to season it well before burning and also I try to burn no more than one or two sticks each stoking over a clean burning wood such as white oak. Also, your splitter is working you to death. Really enjoy your videos. Seems you and I do a lot of the same things.
I was wondering why you still couldn't use the log for boards? Do they have to be a certain length to go to your sawmill. I love woodworking but have never done what you do. I lived near Glade Hill, VA, and came real close to buying a sawmill, but we needed to move to be with family. Thank you for sharing.
Start as far up the leaner as possible. Carry a ladder with you for jobs like that. The more weight you can remove before your base cut, the less likely it is to barber chair.
Hi Nathan, greetings from England. Great project. As others have said the mistake you made was not undercutting first. That wasn't the first mistake though. I'd be wearing much more PPE (3 years felling experience) , chainsaw trousers and a helmet with visor as a minimum. I hate to see people using a chainsaw above waist height - really dangerous, so easy for the saw to drop on a leg. I would do much more processing of the tops before starting on the trunks, make the site safe and trip free. Just a quick question, when using the logging tape why not use the chainsaw to mark rather than an axe much quicker. Great that your are helping out like this BUT stay safe.
I was recently ‘gifted’ a Husqvarna 545 Mark II. One never knows what a great saw can do until you get to run one. Instead of a plunge cut why not undercut that log 25-33% and finish the cut from the top? ( I am a rookie and am thoroughly learning from and enjoying all of your videos)
Please bare with me. I don’t believe there is a god,but, you and your dad’s form of christianity is admirable. 👍👍. By the looks of the chips coming of the saw ,you like a Sharp chain
LOL! For what it's worth, every red oak I ever cut up has tried to hurt me in one way or another. In my fifty years of cutting, I have cut a lot of wood and any time I was faced with that situation with oak I usually will cut up from the bottom for two or three inches and then go from the top-down as fast as I can. The hinge will be near the bottom and less likely to split Just some food for thought. Oh, and never trust wood to do what you think it will.
Hi Nathan, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have split if you had taken the time to romance it a bit first, bit of singing, bit of chat, complementary conversation………
I’m no expert in cutting wood but I believe a fallen tree under tension like that oak should be cut 1/3 of the way on the bottom. Then come back and cut the top portion. On another note I watch every episode you put out on UA-cam and enjoy your content. It may be me but it seems like UA-cam uses your videos to mass publish ads. 😡😡 On the numerous other channels I subscribe to they have far less ads for even longer videos.
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Your pop looks triple happy. He's out working, helping people and spending time with his boy. That's a trifecta for most old timers.
One of the reasons I enjoy watching other folks cut trees, is to “experience” the scenarios without worrying about the dangers. Thanks for showing your mistakes - we can all learn from them. You have to do a lot of chainsaw work to see all the potential situations. This is accelerated learning!
Good to be a neighbor. Someone will stay warm this winter and someone will get some good lumber from the saw logs. Also, great to spend some time with Dad and enjoy the coffee together. The 500i is a beast.
Nathan it's good that you and your dad can do things together cherish these times
Thank you Nathan. I used to spend days out in my trees thinning, cutting dead stands for firewood and cleaning up after storms. I enjoyed it immensely and wore myself out in the process. Now I watch videos of folks doing it, relive some of the fun and remember the satisfaction when it's done. You may be living MY best life.
Wonderful to see your Dad out with you Nathan enjoying the day with his son. Enjoy these times.
I was going to ask about why you only used the one side of the log splitter, glad you cleared it up at the end. Good to see you and your dad out getting stuff done together! Take care!
Trees under tension like that I like to make a bottom cut 1st, minimizes the splitting. Dangerous situation for sure. Was too much weight on the right (top) so it split. Still got your limbs & are above room temperature, so you're OK Nathan, because you were vigilant & observant.
Good advice!
One of the most practical ways to help out, lumber and firewood while you clear up some of the mess, kudos to you
Thanks for the videos. Really great that you and your Dad are working together and helping people impacted by the hurricane.
Beautiful countryside you are helping out on. Wow!
I been running into the same thing. We are in the next county over in Russell co. And its a mess. I been using the bobcat with grapple to hold the logs to keep from splitting them. Works pretty slick.
Great to see you and your dad working together! I was wondering why he didn't use both sides of the log splitter but you explained it at the end. Too bad that you don't have other volunteers to help out. Maybe that will come in later episodes.
Appreciate you watching!
It is awesome how close you and your dad are. My dad is my best friend. When I was 17, if you would have told me that, I would have called you a liar. But the older I get, the smarter he gets. I guess he's learned a bit as he got older.
Thanks for bringing me along
You bet
Ethan, I do not think you made a mistake. It is the saws fault. Lucky you, I am willing to let you ship it to me (at your expense of course) and take a look. Figure I could get it diagnosed, repaired and sent back in a few years or decade. I know, awful generous offer from me. But hey, just trying to help where I can! Love how you redecorated the office! About time for an update on Bruno's clock collection. Thanks for the video and great of you to help some folks out there. Say hey to the Mamma Cat and the Rooster for me.
We never cut any logs out but my dad always started in the top of the tree after bringing the tree down. We started at the top in the limbs get all them cut up and then start cutting up the log
Good to see you glad your able to help your friend clean up after the hurricane please you guys stay safe
Appreciate that!
Really wish I could help my dad and I cut up a lot of wood and would give it to people who needed it. It feels good to help people who can't do for themselves anymore for whatever the reason is
Most people were disabled or just too old to safely do it
When I cut a log like that, I will cut up from the bottom about 4". That gives me a relief cut and you have enough wood to prevent it from pinching. Then cut from the top. You can also do a plunge cut before you cut from the top. Good luck and stay safe.
I was watching you start that cut thinking "you need to undercut it first!",and sure enough that happened. I usually start under coming up at least a quarter of the way before down cutting.
Love the splitter!
@Nathan my experience on a leaner like that. Cut from underneath. On my side pull the base of the bar to make a 30°cut. Drive a wedge, then cut from the top down. Reason for the wedge. It helps push the log away as it falls away from the final cut. Works about 50% of the time. ( btw can I have 500i back please😅)
Interesting goggles. I imagine that the mesh would be virtually unnoticeable that close up to the eyeballs. That split on the oak was nearly inevitable; that much tension on a long, heavy trunk so far up in the air.
Nathan, don't beat yourself up about the cantilevered split log. I am sure that you have learned a lesson from this. Truth be told, most projects of this nature, provide at least a couple of lessons before it's over. One really good thing I noticed is that you kept your self clear of the falling cantilever. You are doing just fine, considering you are working on a slope. Stay safe, young man.
A beautiful spot to get some work done, wow!
Thanks for watching!
Was this part of your property Nathan ? Well all I had to do is keep watching and you gave the answer to my question, thank you!
I would have just done a match cut on the red oak and not a bore cut. Come up from underneath first and cut it a little bit but don't let it pinch your bar then go directly above it from the top and cut it off. You are right though things can always happen and i wasn't there looking at it in person. You never know how much pressure is on something either. Also in a situation like this one i have been known now and then to cut a small notch from the under side just like you would do on standing timber then come down from the top. Often times it will go down kind of gradual that way and slower. Be safe Nthan and happy cutting.
Hey neighbor, whenever you use different words or mess up your dialogue, I'm right there with you. We all do it😂 we just got to straighten back up and go forward 🤔👍
GREAT VLOG
Thank you!!
hey nate , for your barber chair . I would have under bucked half way then wedge , after cut from the top until it popped off and , presto .
Had you done an under cute. Then full throttle cut down above undercut. Your saw is cutting real good you shouldn't have any problems. Red oak splits vary easy so always do an under cut to relieve any tension.
Looks like that split started when that tree fell over the log on the ground. Sort of like breaking a stick over your knee.
Ì don't think you made a mistake at all. The tree was weak in that spot and decided to split. You are doing a great job.
Sorry Nathan, what does bucking mean in Tennessee, Means something entirely different in Texas. Bucking here is riding a farm animal, or installing a drill stem cage on a rotating piece of drill stem pipe.
500I is a good rpm saw. In 70s I upgraded from from a rpm saw to a bigger hp saw. To cut big frozen hard maple. Felling a straight up tree. After knocking tree doing the back cut my new 075AV Stihl cut so fast it could cut tree off before it started to fall. Only once I cut it off and tree fell down flat on the bar. And it stood up straight. Without a wedge I actually pushed it over by hand by leaning into it. Vary dangerous do not advise.
You always cut the compression side first when a log is under tension
That was a scary sound...
Black Angus ribeye steaks are the best! 33 days aged.
I am certainly no expert on chain saw usage but I do have experience as a woodworker/teacher of woodworking. When that tree was knocked over a huge amount of stress was imparted into the wood. It is possible/probable that the wood was split on the inside as part of the wind event/blowdown and there wasn't any real way to cut it without the splits making themselves known. Heads up for backing away ! Safety first!!
Yup. It was that initial cut on the bore cut that was the problem. You could have just not done that, or you could have left more wood. Either probably would have worked. However, having said that, fallen trees like this have some crazy internal stresses. Many times even greater stresses that when standing.
Acute "V" undercut just shy of pinching. Then cut from top.
You normally cut 16" rounds but these look longer, are they? If so, why?
dad got a little crazy with the saw.
Red oak splits, burns and heats real good but also builds up creosote in your flu real fast. Be sure to season it well before burning and also I try to burn no more than one or two sticks each stoking over a clean burning wood such as white oak. Also, your splitter is working you to death. Really enjoy your videos. Seems you and I do a lot of the same things.
I was wondering why you still couldn't use the log for boards? Do they have to be a certain length to go to your sawmill. I love woodworking but have never done what you do. I lived near Glade Hill, VA, and came real close to buying a sawmill, but we needed to move to be with family. Thank you for sharing.
Start as far up the leaner as possible. Carry a ladder with you for jobs like that. The more weight you can remove before your base cut, the less likely it is to barber chair.
Hi Nathan, greetings from England. Great project. As others have said the mistake you made was not undercutting first. That wasn't the first mistake though. I'd be wearing much more PPE (3 years felling experience) , chainsaw trousers and a helmet with visor as a minimum. I hate to see people using a chainsaw above waist height - really dangerous, so easy for the saw to drop on a leg. I would do much more processing of the tops before starting on the trunks, make the site safe and trip free. Just a quick question, when using the logging tape why not use the chainsaw to mark rather than an axe much quicker. Great that your are helping out like this BUT stay safe.
To me, it simply looks like you didn't leave enough up there to hold the rest, so it broke.
Did your dad out work you. My dad use to. I'm 58 years old now and my uncle is in his late 70's and he can still out work me
I was recently ‘gifted’ a Husqvarna 545 Mark II. One never knows what a great saw can do until you get to run one. Instead of a plunge cut why not undercut that log 25-33% and finish the cut from the top? ( I am a rookie and am thoroughly learning from and enjoying all of your videos)
What ran across the background at 11.44?
Why did yall leave the split wood?
Please bare with me. I don’t believe there is a god,but, you and your dad’s form of christianity is admirable. 👍👍. By the looks of the chips coming of the saw ,you like a Sharp chain
LOL! For what it's worth, every red oak I ever cut up has tried to hurt me in one way or another. In my fifty years of cutting, I have cut a lot of wood and any time I was faced with that situation with oak I usually will cut up from the bottom for two or three inches and then go from the top-down as fast as I can. The hinge will be near the bottom and less likely to split Just some food for thought. Oh, and never trust wood to do what you think it will.
My theory on the split tree. Is 💩happen’s sometimes with out doing anything wrong.
as i was watching i said make a bottom cut
Dad’s a worker
Too bad you didn't have a wagon under the out feed of the splitter.
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Your bore cut was too high !
Hi Nathan, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have split if you had taken the time to romance it a bit first, bit of singing, bit of chat, complementary conversation………
I’m no expert in cutting wood but I believe a fallen tree under tension like that oak should be cut 1/3 of the way on the bottom. Then come back and cut the top portion.
On another note I watch every episode you put out on UA-cam and enjoy your content. It may be me but it seems like UA-cam uses your videos to mass publish ads. 😡😡
On the numerous other channels I subscribe to they have far less ads for even longer videos.
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Don't worry about the wood split 🪓 you know that you did it wrong when you are being cut out of it.