Motorfest Has a MASSIVE Cheating Problem... Here's How To Fix It

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  • @SidWaj
    @SidWaj  5 місяців тому +6

    A different better idea for a fix was suggested to me
    instead of a binary wheel mode, a “Steering Sensitivity Dial”
    one being controller like, ten being wheel like, that allows more nuance, and specific adjustment for players

  • @SaneU_c
    @SaneU_c 5 місяців тому +50

    The problem is that in TC2, the handling physics were already so arcady that wheelmode didn’t cause a huge disparity vs regular controller input. However, in Motorfest, since the cars have much more weight to them and feel more grounded, the disparity between wheelmode and controller input is immensely noticeable

    • @DutchBernyRides
      @DutchBernyRides 5 місяців тому +5

      100% agree, in TCM it looks silly and fake. Would never even want to use it

    • @SaneU_c
      @SaneU_c 5 місяців тому +5

      @@DutchBernyRides wheelmode in Motorfest looks like ur playing TC2 with a Hawaii reskin 😂😭

    • @SZRTIce
      @SZRTIce 5 місяців тому +1

      Well said. This exactly.

    • @SaneU_c
      @SaneU_c 5 місяців тому

      @@SZRTIcei truly think the only way to resolve this issue is for IVT to give console players setting options to get “wheelmode”. Sid was right on abt that. Until everybody has access to that feature, everyone who isn’t capable of doing good yet in TCM will have a just reason to call it a cheat. I personally don’t need it, but id like the opportunity to test it out and mess around with it. #wheelmode #GPAS (give players accessibility settings)

  • @kiw3rs
    @kiw3rs 5 місяців тому +14

    bro didn't even give credit for the Egoista input comparison 💀

    • @SidWaj
      @SidWaj  5 місяців тому +5

      the footage of the egoista was this guys 👆

  • @Sanderly1820
    @Sanderly1820 5 місяців тому +4

    Goalith talked about it saying how bad it was and wants fairplay, but carrys on using wheelmode. Wheelmode is 4-5 seconds faster overhaul in a race. You can do a Scandinavian flick with a controller. Doing that reqires you to come in close to the corner flick the stick in the opposite way then turn back into the turn with e brake and gas

  • @GarySFC
    @GarySFC 5 місяців тому +17

    The issue is there is no option for it on ps5. So you are immediately at a disadvantage to someone with access to it. It is not a skill issue to not have access to something that someone else does.
    An easy solution is to simply add the wheel mode as an option. That way. You can choose to use it and then it will be a skill issue until you have learned how to use it.
    Someone being able to make adjustments mid corner simply because they are on pc or have a wheel vs someone on controller having no option but to make sure the line is perfect before the corner is not a skill issue. It’s a clear disadvantage. You can have a much higher skill level but be incapable of recreating a cornering angle or speed which in a game with a mode such as the summit where there are limited rewards is not ok. Just because you are on ps5 you should not have to work harder than someone else to recreate a worse time. It should be the player. Not the players wallet that decides

  • @whitebeetle6010
    @whitebeetle6010 5 місяців тому +17

    9:20 Agree and disagree.
    He mentions another issue of the game and the one i more pissed about.... The reset exploit, the going missileram into a corner reset and spawning down/up the road, most of the times ramming other players that take the turn normally or gutting and send them to oblivion. That should not be allowed and easilly fixing by putting them some meters before they reset and starting from a stand point (0 speed units).
    On summits true that you can get higher score with git gud but again since TC2 time massive shortcuts where you go miles, kilometers outside the road should not be a thing and resets in Summit should be turned off (yeah there can be rewind but not straight resets)
    Wheel mode and heres a taking from a wheel player.
    "I play on pc, me and a group of pc friends we play the game legit and we despite wheelmode users. My biggest problem is how they claim is "fair" and the "same" as using the wheel. No its not, I play with a logitech g27. When I loose control of the car I cannot counter steer full 300+ degrees in 0.1 second. Its physically imposible. With wheelmode you just flick the thumbs and not even a budge. After 5 hours of game with the wheel my arms, my shoulders my leg are in pain its it's physically demanding thing to do. Wheelmode users don't get none of that. Legit controller players , wheel users hate them. And don't get me started with the resets it's either do em or loose. Ivory really needs to look into these exploits they went through great lengths to make this game "fair" just to be exploited by the lack of skill players that only cryout "get gut" when they have no other defense."
    The learning curve of wheelmode is not steap, play around with it and in 2 hours your ready to go also this can be easilly fixed by: Letting the player put the deadzone to a REAL 0
    Also not a big justify to use wheelmode just to be against Wheel users thats just the only way they have to defend the usage of if.
    I would actually accept if they just said.... I like to have more control of my vehicle.

    • @bullerkatten
      @bullerkatten 5 місяців тому +2

      As a wheel user i totally agree. On controller you could countersteer so much quicker, so they need to make it more balancing.

    • @Tesseract69
      @Tesseract69 5 місяців тому +2

      "The learning curve of wheelmode is not steap, play around with it and in 2 hours your ready to go" - Only 2 hours!?? Damn, cracked asf fr. Insane learning pace when the best comp players all roughly say it took them 40-70 hours to learn it... lol

    • @rickynotestine9963
      @rickynotestine9963 5 місяців тому

      Resets need to go.

    • @prstechnic1774
      @prstechnic1774 3 місяці тому

      Wheel mode players ARE good at the game. If you havent actually USED wheel mode on controller then just stfu cuz you dont know what youre talking about. I use wheel mode and i find it interesting because i see it as a fun challenge. You might hate that but idgaf. Wheel mode doesnt instantly make you “better” the people you lost to who were using wheel mode were already better than you. Wheel mode is insanely hard to use and thats why i enjoy it, and thats also why i think it’s completely fair.

  • @dragonsoul984
    @dragonsoul984 5 місяців тому +13

    Using a third party software is anyway cheating whether you need to become good at it or not, is cheating, as per the fairplay guidelines.

    • @natha9745
      @natha9745 5 місяців тому +1

      Exactly, a lot of people seems to forget that simple statement...

    • @dragonsoul984
      @dragonsoul984 5 місяців тому

      @@natha9745 Yep because they think the argument provided against will be "you need to get used to it". IVT should just IP ban those who use it simple.

  • @evanjd_
    @evanjd_ 5 місяців тому +6

    using any kind of third party software for an unfair advantage is the definition of cheating. It is now even more difficult for normal players to reach platinum. Now someone who could only reach gold last summit can download a software and up their race time's.

    • @kingsgold
      @kingsgold 5 місяців тому +3

      no, that isnt how it works. wheelmode doesnt guarantee plat in summit; those complaining are those in the upper ranks of skill leaderboards. you CAN get plat in summits with a controller with good car controller and track knowledge. Simgii is living proof of this. doesnt use Wheelmode and easily top 1k in summits.

  • @ralphharrison6622
    @ralphharrison6622 5 місяців тому +5

    its funny how many guilty parties attempt to play it off like its super rare to race with a cheater😅

  • @bran-rr
    @bran-rr 5 місяців тому +6

    5:49 Kiwi (creator of that little clip with the egoista) actually used a wheel on this, not wheelmode

    • @SidWaj
      @SidWaj  5 місяців тому +2

      ahh right, suppose it still shows the same thing, cus wheel mode behaves the same as a wheel, but yeah my mistake on that

  • @stonebone316
    @stonebone316 5 місяців тому +3

    You're not kidding about having to get good with a wheel. I just got one and I'm absolute ass with it 😂

    • @jcurrytk3021
      @jcurrytk3021 5 місяців тому

      Practice makes perfect brother as a sim player myself you can become a grand race monster 💪🏻🔥🫡

    • @emanuelfigueroa414
      @emanuelfigueroa414 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah it takes time. Had mine for about a year and I still think I suck most times.. but it's fun and more engaging than just sitting on the couch with a controller

  • @rukasu02
    @rukasu02 5 місяців тому +5

    It is pretty simple.
    It is cheating because you have to use 3rd party software to use it and the devs obviously did not intend this to be a thing or they would have put it in the Game by themselfs.
    Also only pc players can do it and the Game has crossplay.
    Just for people that say stuff like "complaining because ur bad"
    I have 250+ hours in this game and i have won 136 Grand Races and 90% of my races i am at least in the top 3. Nothing crazy but i am defenetly not a bad player.

  • @AlexeyBeganov
    @AlexeyBeganov 5 місяців тому +10

    My take is that crossplay is the big issue. Console players don't have access to wheel mode and not everyone can afford a wheel. And getting good with a controller on wheel mode is likely easier than getting better with a wheel. Getting a sim steering option is the way to go

    • @TheSilverShadow17
      @TheSilverShadow17 5 місяців тому +1

      Then there are people that can kick ass on controller just fine. The only reason you want a wheel is to make a racing game feel more immersive, otherwise there's no reason to get a wheel.

    • @zaccwalked9544
      @zaccwalked9544 5 місяців тому

      Xbox vs Ps only fux pc players

  • @beardeddefguy
    @beardeddefguy 5 місяців тому +8

    This seems like the cronus on call of duty. I don't think we'll ever get away from cheating in games.

    • @mattmanley7118
      @mattmanley7118 5 місяців тому +1

      It is indeed

    • @miketheboss5290
      @miketheboss5290 4 дні тому +1

      Pc players period have an advantage in cod, it’s very similar to this. They have capabilities that controller players just simply don’t have. I’ve always found this very ridiculous and blame the dev’s because regardless of what hardware you’re using everyone should be on an even playing field. Now a cronus is straight up cheating

  • @lunytrickz
    @lunytrickz 5 місяців тому +3

    no IVT just has to properly recalibrate gamepad input
    like already asked soooo many times in TC2
    where ya just could not use dragspec for escapes with gamepad because no steering

  • @1TheRockOfficial
    @1TheRockOfficial 5 місяців тому +1

    The leaderboard is the biggest thing that needs to be talked about out.

  • @NSCGamemaster
    @NSCGamemaster 5 місяців тому +1

    i agree with you for what they need to do to "fix" the problem (atleast the core point of it). the problem isnt that the software exist. if they try to add in a way to detect the cheats, like you said, it will just be a game of cat and mouse of putting in detections, finding work arounds, putting in more detections, more work arounds, more detections, etc. they need to fix the core issue of why people are using the software. one of the better solutions would peobably be adding a "wheel mode" into the game

  • @Soxynos
    @Soxynos 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm a console player, so wheelmode is impossible for me.
    Even then, I can achieve platinum in summits. I can even finish 1st place in Grand Race without using any meta cars.
    BUT, things cannot stay the way they are currently. If Ubisoft really want to make the game "fair" for anyone, they should just add wheelmode in the game as an option, as it is the simplest way of making it fair, rather than "ban and workaround", like Sid said himself.
    The cheating/unfairness of wheelmode comes from the fact that this game is crossplay, so a part of the community are not able to access wheelmode even if they wanted to.
    So is it cheating? Currently, yes. If everyone were to have access to it, then no.

  • @Nightmareof94
    @Nightmareof94 5 місяців тому +2

    This is why i don’t bother with grand races or even bothering to try on summits i just play the game to chill and cruise

    • @dragonildreamy161
      @dragonildreamy161 5 місяців тому

      Same here i wish there was more stuff for us "casuals" to do

    • @dragonildreamy161
      @dragonildreamy161 5 місяців тому

      For this reason and annoying metas i mainly just do multiplayer cruising or demo royale

  • @eddieru
    @eddieru 4 місяці тому

    i played a grand race for the first time. did 5 of them yesterday and only once did a console player make podium in those 5 races

  • @Wertical21
    @Wertical21 5 місяців тому +9

    I've been using wheel mode for a little over a week now and it has genuinely made the game way more fun to play.
    I'm not good enough to take advantage of it competitively, but it does allow me to recover from slides and collisions better. Mostly, it just fixes many issues I've had with the handling in this game. I can finally countersteer properly, I can adjust my line mid-corner, I can change directions and go through chicanes properly. It just feels so good to use the analog sticks like analog sticks, instead of just left and right buttons.
    I really hope IVT allows us to play around with the steering settings to emulate that experience. If the steering sensitivity was maybe at like 70% of wheel mode and we had a tiny bit of speed bias, it would be perfect for my liking. Just give us the tools to tailor the steering to our preferences.

    • @Attackplaya
      @Attackplaya 5 місяців тому

      does the driving feel more realistic with wheelmode or more arcady?

    • @madelineariah
      @madelineariah 5 місяців тому

      Options -> Controls -> Steering and Options -> Controls -> Throttle.

    • @Wertical21
      @Wertical21 5 місяців тому

      @@Attackplaya feels more arcady, because the steering filters present in the game try to emulate a more "realistic" steering behavior. But that's precisely why the ability to adjust things to your liking is necessary.

    • @Tesseract69
      @Tesseract69 5 місяців тому

      This is the main reason why I've disliked the steering filter and was looking for a solution to fix the steering issues since noticing them within the first 3 days of the game being out. Everything you've mentioned is precisely the same things I found myself as well. I wish IVT would let players have more control over how they want their steering to feel. And the hard capped deadzone of ~25% which still exists after setting in-game deadzone to 0 is a very poor and overlooked design choice.

  • @theexoticduo9029
    @theexoticduo9029 5 місяців тому +1

    I thought sid would never talk about this

  • @ShaqFuGuru
    @ShaqFuGuru 5 місяців тому +8

    Everyone isn’t cheating, PC players are.
    PC players can use external tools for an advantage, that’s cheating. TC2 was split by platform so it didn’t matter if you were on console like most of the players are.

    • @theoneandonlygus1
      @theoneandonlygus1 4 місяці тому

      It seems to be the case now its more the PC players with the added application to give them a advantage but I'm unsure split platforms are any better in reality,
      I'm sure if you looked hard enough on the internet you may find a cheat engine or some other application for consoles just like you still can for a original Crew game,
      I still see people racing on that game cheating in lobby's even though not many now play in the Crew lobby's.
      My opinion for what it's worth,
      If some 3rd party application not part of a game but needs to be added to help you gain a advantage over other players and thats not available to all game players is cheating.

  • @finalphoenix3985
    @finalphoenix3985 5 місяців тому

    Agreed, if they just made controller comparable to wheel (or wheel mode in game) so we can compete. I tried to use wheel mode but the last steps didn't work. lol. fun fun.

  • @kannonfps
    @kannonfps 5 місяців тому +2

    i see a lot of people saying that a wheel player will be better than controller, but like you said you have to get REAL good with a wheel first in order to gain said advantage, therefore only affect top 10% MAX of the player base if not less people... i'm not saying that it's not bad for theses players but we need to be real for a second here.
    the thing with wheel mode that makes it a "cheat" imo even tho it's also super hard to play withis the fact that you don't have to deal with a wheel, pedals and all that shit, everything is in your hands and that's it.
    i played with normal controller, wheel mode and wheel, wheel is BY FAR the hardest to play with. in less than 5h with wheel mode i was already crushing my best times on normal controller, with the wheel tho... 5h is nowhere near to be enough for that to happen. I guess you could lower your wheel rotation which could potentially make it "easier" but it is still far harder than controller.
    Yes the easy fix is to make wheelmode part of the game again, but they won't do that, they haven't done that for tc2 and they won't for Motorfest

  • @yourvenparianen5390
    @yourvenparianen5390 5 місяців тому +2

    all i see are cheaters making excuses , whether it's an "exploit" or a bug, purposefully abusing it to get ahead of players in a PvP setting is unnacceptable. remove that shit so that its actually fairplay.

  • @xnotasweatx
    @xnotasweatx 4 місяці тому +1

    Militia says he isn’t cheating whenusing this, because a “wheel is already a third party software so why not” as if that’s the same thing as downloading something onto a handheld controller

    • @SidWaj
      @SidWaj  4 місяці тому +1

      That logic doesn't make much sense imo

  • @SZRTIce
    @SZRTIce 5 місяців тому +2

    Wheelmode =/= steering wheel.
    Wheel users need to actually rotate the wheel to cornering angle, and back to straight. Catching traction loss requires precision inputs to pedals and steering angle. Simply keeping a car straight requires constant input. Getting instant max steering and instant straightline with taps on an anolog stick, max throttle, and with no instability issues, is way more of an advantage than just playing on a wheel.
    And the flicks/Scandinavian flicks refill nitrous with the drifty Legend Points as well, so you're also faster in Summits due to having a larger pool of nitrous throughout a course.

    • @Tesseract69
      @Tesseract69 5 місяців тому

      I always find it ironic that the people with the most confident 'opinions' on things have the least actual real world use experience and familiarity with the thing they ‘pretend’ to have factually correct information and knowledge of how it works… Just making spewing biased assumptions and throwing out random wild guesses, thinking they know what they are talking about…

    • @SZRTIce
      @SZRTIce 5 місяців тому

      @@Tesseract69 I have a wheel, and I know how wheel mode works. So what am I saying that's a wild guess? Wheel mode reduces Steering Linearity to 0. Allowing instant max steering left and right, even at max speeds. Typically, steering on a controller is mitigated by speed. So pushing max steering at 0mph will give you 70○ rotation, but at 200mph you're reduced to say 35○ of rotation, since a person wouldn't typically want to actually over-rotate car at speed when driving. And the movement speed is limited to what they presume is the average time it take a person to turn a steering wheel and back. But with wheel mode, you can get 70○ rotation at 0mph or 200mph, and with much quicker turning speed. And in the middle of a turn, you can max steer 70○, return to 0○ straght, and then max steer again multiple times. Thus creating sustainable oversteer and easy mid-corner corrections. And with the game rewarding nitrous for drifting, you also get nitro bonuses for doing so in Summit events. So tell me, where am I wrong?

    • @Tesseract69
      @Tesseract69 5 місяців тому

      @@SZRTIce Nope, still incorrect.
      You're clearly just 'guessing how it works'. People believing they know things, when they don't actually know.. It's just ridiculous.

    • @SZRTIce
      @SZRTIce 5 місяців тому

      @Tesseract69 Right... You keep saying I'm incorrect without explaining how. So why don't you tell me how I'm incorrect or what is correct? Because you're ironically sounding hypocritical right now. As your comments are baseless so far.

    • @Tesseract69
      @Tesseract69 5 місяців тому

      @@SZRTIce No point trying to correct delusional misinformation. The mere fact you think wheelmode gives an advantage with flicking into drifts to earn more nos from legend points, is the most ridiculous thing I've read by any commenter thus far... Gripping is faster than drifting in almost all aspects of the game. Even in rally raid. Wiggling your car to earn nos is some NFS Unbound type of logic...

  • @McLovin_710
    @McLovin_710 4 місяці тому

    I got motorfest because i enjoyed the feel on my wheel and didnt realize how much easier it was until i switched to a controller to drive motorcycles since i cant turn on it with a wheel.
    This exploit or whatever you want to call this seems like its easier then even using a wheel , have to rotate 900° compared to just flicking the stick
    I think they should allow more customization for controllers because there is a difference in what you can do for example how far you can turn

  • @lennykljun2051
    @lennykljun2051 4 місяці тому +1

    Easiest way to fix this is to keep controller and ppl using wheelss seperate!! Solves all problems

  • @Rogersslike
    @Rogersslike 5 місяців тому +2

    Touching things in the game to drive better because otherwise they can't do it well, shame on those "players" :(

    • @rynotheraccoon
      @rynotheraccoon 5 місяців тому

      roger i got no problem with u bro but u cant say that. almost everyone with wheelmode were already top players. its sad to see someone like u say something like that.

    • @Rogersslike
      @Rogersslike 5 місяців тому +1

      It is my opinion and you should respect it, what you and the other wheelmoders are doing is wrong and you only look for justifications where there are none... You ruin the gaming experience of thousands of people just by wanting to try to be the best when you have a clear advantage above all the others... Don't call yourself a pro player if you use 3rd party software in your game! I invite you to use a real steering wheel in your streaming and not a remote control configured to show how "good" you are at driving.@@rynotheraccoon

    • @davidhebson1262
      @davidhebson1262 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Rogersslike I agree 100% with this. They try to justify it but it is CHEATING. Ryno said to me " Try and be open minded about it " No way will i be open minded. They are using a Mod. They were on Alex cornut stream and trying to justify on there.
      And that Pro player nonsense or skill issue they like to say also is a disgrace.
      I used to be a Bricklayer and that is a skill, Not cheating on a game and playing 9/10 hours a day and be a self proclaimed pro player. They should go and get a proper job and get some freh air in the lungs.

    • @Rogersslike
      @Rogersslike 5 місяців тому +1

      I completely agree with you, these guys use third party software in their game and claim to be the professional players of the game when the advantage they have over others is obvious... I have already told ryno and many other wheelmoders, and The only thing they answer is "That's part of the game!" Hahaha... They have no solid arguments.@@davidhebson1262

    • @davidhebson1262
      @davidhebson1262 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Rogersslike They always try to justify the cheating way they play. Ive suspected from TC2 days that there is a lot of folk using mods. And its always them same names. And they are all in a little gang together all knowing what exploits to use. I blame Ubisoft/IVT also, As if they would grow some balls and ban them who are using exploits/cheats etc.
      What they dont realise is that a lot of casual players will soon see who these players are, And will leave the game. Its the same in Grand race. Ive got same car and side my side certain players and then the shoot away from me everytime. And normally the same CHEAT name players win over and over. For some reason they disapear in rally and rally raid events. So maybe the exploit does not work as well.
      Anyway ive took a huge step back from playing because of this and do summit and then leave. Its strange how lots of the players switched from xbox/psn to now play PC. I wonder why !!!! ha ha ha
      Thanks for the reply ​ @Rogersslike Keep well my friend.

  • @clebimtane
    @clebimtane 4 місяці тому

    I do not own a steering wheel, but I am insanely good at driving at high speeds. I noticed that people cannot turn for shit.

  • @RLPlayer1
    @RLPlayer1 5 місяців тому

    cant you just change the steering angle to like 90 degrees in settings on the wheel

  • @thegforce522
    @thegforce522 5 місяців тому +4

    i dont really understand the point of the unnamed individuals comment. you're using 3rd party software to alter your inputs, thats cheating. you can try and justify it whichever way you like, but it is cheating. the fact that "the people who call it out are slow" is completely irrelevant. the fact that wheel players have this sort of steering is somewhat relevant, but not related to if using external software to gain an advantage yourself is cheating or not. that said the fact that wheel has an advantage has always been incredibly dumb and should have been adressed years ago. the need to resort to 3rd party software cause the game by default is hurting your pace is just terrible game design.
    Wheelmode was added in tc1 because people like myself complained about the advantage wheel had, it wasnt there from the start. the problem with a toggle is that a vast majority of casual players wont be able to get used to such insanely sensitive steering. on top of that it isnt usable on keyboard, so keyboard players would still be left out. the true solution would be a sensitivity slider of sorts that can fade between these modes, so everyone can adjust the level of sensitivity they want to play with.

    • @davidhebson1262
      @davidhebson1262 5 місяців тому

      The Unnamed individual who i think i know who it is. They are trying to convince themselves its not cheating. But anyone using a 3rd party program are CHEATS. In grand race you get the same name players win over and over. I was up with them for a little while. But me being on normal controller could not compete. I watched them corner much easier. You dont see the cheats as much in rally raid/Rally. Not sure if its harder for them to use exploit in them Grand races.

    • @cbennefeld03
      @cbennefeld03 5 місяців тому

      Basedforce as usual

  • @Openthrottlerc
    @Openthrottlerc 3 місяці тому

    Seeing this i can easily pin point who uses it on grand races lol

  • @General_Madness
    @General_Madness 5 місяців тому

    I got a logitech g29 for around $300, so no, brand-new, even with entry level wheels, 100 pounds isnt enough. And just to show how much money $300 is, I bought a PS4 brand-new for around the same price, actually slightly less.

  • @joeldepps5414
    @joeldepps5414 5 місяців тому +1

    Surely adding wheel mode to controller is like adding aim assist to kbm on cod, wheel mode exists for wheel specifically just like aim assist exists for controller? If I were to third party a sticky aim software onto cod for when I play kbm isn’t it the same principle here or am I missing something

    • @prstechnic1774
      @prstechnic1774 3 місяці тому

      No its not what? 😂 go use wheel mode for a few grand races and then edit your comment.

    • @joeldepps5414
      @joeldepps5414 3 місяці тому

      @@prstechnic1774 oh no it’s nothing to do with the effect of adding a mechanic to another input, it’s the premise of doing it, the integrity of choosing to play as the input is intended

  • @Angeltozooted
    @Angeltozooted 5 місяців тому

    Shi i never even noticed ppl with wheel mode I haven’t seen it at all tbh but from what I’ve seen from other UA-camr the shi does give you more of a advantage

  • @eduardoantoniogomez1468
    @eduardoantoniogomez1468 4 місяці тому

    Basically an online-only game is a scam. Think about it. They don’t care, they just sell their shit and that’s all. Vanities *a decoration * are priced up to 7 dollars, so don’t expect honesty from a band of thieves 😂

  • @jamiller83
    @jamiller83 5 місяців тому +1

    Not everyone... And I have almost 200 wins. No wheelmode. No resets. I do use just about every cut though.

  • @Am3sti
    @Am3sti 5 місяців тому

    carx ahh turning

  • @rondadon420
    @rondadon420 5 місяців тому +2

    Damn so I’ve been playing the game wrong since launch… #fairplay

  • @jskiillzent.9985
    @jskiillzent.9985 5 місяців тому +1

    Big difference

  • @natha9745
    @natha9745 5 місяців тому +1

    Overall, nerfing wheels would be better, like why in the world does it steer further on wheel, it makes no sense. Nerf the wheel angle and nerf the dead zone for the wheel, that's it

    • @Batman-qd1sr
      @Batman-qd1sr 5 місяців тому +3

      Nerfing wheel would be dumb asf. Just allow more controller adjustments.

    • @natha9745
      @natha9745 5 місяців тому

      @@Batman-qd1sr the purpose of the wheel is to be more precise, not to be overpowered. Just nerf it

    • @cbennefeld03
      @cbennefeld03 5 місяців тому +1

      Agree. The wheel mode/wheel physics are goofy. Like the flicking just looks so lame. Would definitely be a significant downgrade in handling more back to how TC2 felt where you never brake.

  • @dokutah7374
    @dokutah7374 3 місяці тому

    This is fiendish on Alpha GP lol

  • @janvtic7767
    @janvtic7767 5 місяців тому +1

    and keyboard? no way

  • @Sayure719
    @Sayure719 5 місяців тому

    Is there no way to take off that annoying radar ping for random treasure?

  • @eddyalvaross2195
    @eddyalvaross2195 4 місяці тому

    Wheel mode is unrealistic.

  • @KG_Grandpa
    @KG_Grandpa 5 місяців тому +2

    Let them fix the game first, so many times that i was first and the game gave me a lag spike to 7fps and then you drop to 20 ya nice

  • @DRIVER--242
    @DRIVER--242 5 місяців тому +1

    Yes, absolutely SidWaj. New hash tag #AddWheelMode 👍 The only other logical option is to get rid of the 35% Dead Zone for controllers but in essence they are the same thing. PLEASE IVORY TOWER? Listen to the community.. and do the right thing? Don't just Nerf the 3rd party software, That's just Lazy!

  • @wrightsgaming
    @wrightsgaming 5 місяців тому +1

    If anyone is smart they can actually adjust the handling in performance but you have to play around with the adjusting though but people that have to get cheats has no brains lol

  • @rehaan013
    @rehaan013 5 місяців тому

    I have a ps4 wheel but i have a ps5 and I need a ps4 controller for the wheel so I Use the ps4 controller whilst it’s connected to the wheel and I can use the exploid

  • @nikkidavis8056
    @nikkidavis8056 5 місяців тому

    PS5 can’t turn on wheel mode 😢

  • @deathamdx6
    @deathamdx6 5 місяців тому +1

    why then you guys playing on pc with controller? cause ez way to cornering right ....

  • @gtodad7311
    @gtodad7311 5 місяців тому

    Resets are a bigger issue in the game. Whether you call it a cheat or an exploit, it is just dumb and hopefully is patched because it promotes slamming into things which causes general meyham in every tight and hairpin section unless you're way behind or way in front. Nothing is more annoying than having a race ruined by 14 people in one corner trying to bounce and reset while they take out the other half of the field. Tha't not a skill based problem; that is a gameplay problem that has allowed a behaviour to fester and become "the norm".

  • @qklwiddy
    @qklwiddy 5 місяців тому +5

    Real wheel players are impressive. Nothing impressive about exploiting. No way winning an arcade racer is so serious to the point we need 3rd party apps.

  • @user-tb1bp3tz3s
    @user-tb1bp3tz3s 5 місяців тому

    How the hell this dude already has that much bucks man wthhh smh 🤦🏻

  • @KrakenMLT
    @KrakenMLT 5 місяців тому +7

    Don't forget the no traffic glitch which only few people know about

    • @Arachonz
      @Arachonz 5 місяців тому

      its random

    • @KrakenMLT
      @KrakenMLT 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Arachonz Not random at all. I've seen Summit Contest "Professionals" that don't have a single car in the way during feats

    • @VAPEEED
      @VAPEEED 5 місяців тому

      yup its not something u can control

    • @KrakenMLT
      @KrakenMLT 5 місяців тому +3

      @@VAPEEED There's people that know about it but don't want to leak it so it doesn't get patched.

    • @VAPEEED
      @VAPEEED 5 місяців тому

      @@KrakenMLT no.

  • @zaccwalked9544
    @zaccwalked9544 5 місяців тому +1

    Pc players hav an extreme advantage n Summits & Grand races over xbox players fux what u sayin ..skill my azz..i been dealing with crashing & crazy frame drops with an extreme lag when using audio signatures like rumble tumble n GR's ..idk about wheel mode would be cool to have tho ..i won gr's without meta carz & been gettin platinum n summit fix the random crashing & freezing been happening since launch

  • @Tempzy
    @Tempzy 5 місяців тому +1

    i only use wheelmode on offline events

  • @mattmanley7118
    @mattmanley7118 5 місяців тому +1

    And this is why Xbox in particular is going scorched earth on non licensed accessories!! Not sure if they’ve changed their course.
    Even ones that might help disabled gamers in the FGC.
    It’s unfortunate but this makes me not want to play this game. COD has the same devices for cheating.

  • @NazakoFND
    @NazakoFND 5 місяців тому

    is wheel mode pn ps5?
    or a pc only

  • @Boss_3A5
    @Boss_3A5 5 місяців тому

    You can do that flick normally on controller. I do it during grand races. The way you do it is going off road

  • @therealzeus7650
    @therealzeus7650 5 місяців тому

    o this feels just like how the the crew feels this should feel like this by default with wheel mode

  • @rytwa9980
    @rytwa9980 5 місяців тому

    how to back on trac kwithout rewindind

    • @hennyx12
      @hennyx12 5 місяців тому

      Turn rewind off in difficulty settings

  • @nebulousram674
    @nebulousram674 5 місяців тому +1

    Mmmm this take is sketchy. I'm sorry but I know a lot of the Crew 2 tracks and I was the best at racing games of my friends in the two different neighborhoods I lived in growing up. I beat more GT3, beat, Midnight Club 3 Dub, and even though it doesn't matter for the sake of difficulty beat NFSU2/Underground on hard mode. (NFS series isn't difficult) I couldn't beat anyone onle in Crew 2, and I could see when my oppoenents turning tigher. I never knew why until now. I don't say cheaters, but I will say that people are right to be angry at their disadvanage especially when people are always shitting on controller players. Why are we even talking pickup and play no game is pick up and play. It takes time to get used to physics in a game. It takes some time to get used to the tool, but the point everyone is making is advantage state. Which is the elephant glaring at you and saying yeah, you were at a obvious and large disadvantage. Esspecailly when you take into account flicking! Third elephant in room is you pooping on controller players by calling wheel players better. Say the best controller is unaware of software and the disadvantage state. ( Now he downloads it and after getting confident with the tool starts eating wheel players for breakfest. You can't just go making crazy exclaimations pooping on the controller player to justify this point. No this is a disadvantage state nobody was aware of and controller players had a right to be angry. Now if your unwilling to use the tool because you think it is a exploit. ( OK you've got even more reason to be angry but knowly being angry about a disadvantage state you can fix.... isn't everbody elses fault )

    • @nebulousram674
      @nebulousram674 5 місяців тому

      I see your point, but I think your defending it poorly. Point is you as a controller player are at a disvantage why ban the tool when you can use it. The answer is don't ban it or whine until ubisoft fxes your problem. Remove your own disadvantage state. The only reason controller plays the way it does it to make it feel more natural given what your used to as a consumer of arcade racing games on controller. They want to appeal to the standard player, so if they remove the tool you'll probably just be left out of option that evens playing ground. I don't see you as the bigger gamer if you aren't making use of what is avaliable, know your disadvantage state, loose, complain, and don't do anything about it. Don't ban a guy for leveling the playing feild against the try hard meta gamer. It is annoying enough that we have meta gamers that don't give a hoot about anything but the W by any means necessary. It is refreshing that we have some people out the that recongnize your at disadvantage state and did something about it by making software you can use to close the gap.

  • @natha9745
    @natha9745 5 місяців тому +2

    Mark my words : allowing wheelmode as an official option will make more mess in the community and will make the game more unbalanced

    • @Ultra-Lightning
      @Ultra-Lightning 5 місяців тому

      How so? If everyone has access to it instead of just one platform, shouldnt it be more fair?

    • @natha9745
      @natha9745 5 місяців тому

      @@Ultra-Lightning Not at all sadly. The purpose of a game is to attract everyone, casuals and tryharders.
      If you add an option that litterally change the physics of the game in a better way, all tryharders will switch to that option and use it for Grand Race. One of the principal key to attract casuals is the GR.
      But if they see that every tryhards strangely gets better turns because of that option, casuals will be frustrated and try this option. The big issue of wheelmode is that it is extremely hard to control your car, and casuals will just be even more frustrated and quit the game entirely
      Add an option specifically for tryharders is a bad game design overall. This will create a scission in the community and unbalance the entire game to the point of losing a lot of players. The best way to nerf wheelmode is to nerf wheel.

  • @lordvalmar1
    @lordvalmar1 4 місяці тому

    and those who use wheel mode and with programs are bad at driving games and those things bother ubisoft should ban those who use wheel mode with cheat programs for life

  • @Lukas-lp2fz
    @Lukas-lp2fz 5 місяців тому +7

    i use wheelmode. Not my fault they forced that horrible steering filter with dead zone that u cant turn off on controller players.

    • @qklwiddy
      @qklwiddy 5 місяців тому +6

      But it will be your fault if you get banned for exploiting…

    • @bran-rr
      @bran-rr 5 місяців тому +2

      @@qklwiddygood luck telling the difference between a top player with wheel and a top player with wheelmode 😁
      Can’t even “ban” wheelmode anyways because it uses a built in windows driver

    • @jordanwalker3617
      @jordanwalker3617 5 місяців тому

      Tbf i have no issue beating wheel/wheelmode users in summits and grand races if they were already the type of people i could beat when they used controller

    • @qklwiddy
      @qklwiddy 5 місяців тому +1

      @@bran-rr it’s a third party exploit and anti-cheat can identify it. 🤣.

    • @davidhebson1262
      @davidhebson1262 5 місяців тому +1

      It is your fault, Beacause you are using it as an advantage. The sooner Ubisoft/IVt grow some balls and BAN them from game that includes your IP so you cant play again Ubisoft products.

  • @ScheefferPedro
    @ScheefferPedro 5 місяців тому +1

    Of course its cheating. Its an exploit, you’ve said it yourself, you need an external tool in order to enable wheelmode, if it was allowed, you’d be able to toggle the wheelmode on/off inside of the game configuration. There’s no arguing with that, Its cheating, end of story. What we need to know is how ubisoft will manage this problem and the cheaters.
    Also, of course that a WHEEL is FASTER than a controller, this is a racing game, it’s meant to play on a wheel, just like gran turismo/assetto corsa/ iRacing and every other racing game. Its not pay to win, just how it’s supposed to be, Wheel will always be faster than a controller if you know how to play it.

  • @user-nn6ow3xt5o
    @user-nn6ow3xt5o 5 місяців тому

    Fuck UA-cam and the censorship

  • @VAPEEED
    @VAPEEED 5 місяців тому

    such a good video bro

  • @drewboi.
    @drewboi. 5 місяців тому

    only chads play with keyboard

    • @Masekoppen
      @Masekoppen 5 місяців тому

      If u call urself a chad you aint a chad 🎉🎉🎉

    • @drewboi.
      @drewboi. 5 місяців тому

      @@Masekoppen no u

    • @GarySFC
      @GarySFC 5 місяців тому

      Respect. I couldn’t use a keyboard even if I was on pc 😂

  • @venomousx8964
    @venomousx8964 5 місяців тому

    Shit I have a wheel but I find it hard to play this game with it .. they are better for sim racing ..

  • @Mapomino.
    @Mapomino. 5 місяців тому +1

    easy-to-use... crossGaming off... end of Diskussion...
    ps. 4 g29 user's.. try all to set "0" force feedback, damp an vibration...
    pls, thx have a nice day

    • @oTheGriMReaPeR
      @oTheGriMReaPeR 5 місяців тому

      Except you're only queued with people who have that option on. Which is no where close to even getting the GR started LMAO

  • @DjangoGroen
    @DjangoGroen 5 місяців тому +2

    It’s just cheating, if you want wheel advantage get a wheel. 100 dollars is not that much money 🤷🏻‍♂️ this wheel mode is even better than wheel since you don’t don’t gave to turn the wheel so much.

  • @hamdann.
    @hamdann. 5 місяців тому

    I was included in the editing of this video 😎😎

  • @lacsmx888
    @lacsmx888 5 місяців тому +1

    Yeah sure!! Skill issue
    Ok stay on grand races for a least 2 hrs uninterrupted and take first place on every single GR and i also expect you to not to have any problems racing among META-DEPENDIENTS and IDIOTS

    • @SidWaj
      @SidWaj  5 місяців тому +1

      now having to depend on Meta and the plague of everyone using Meta… THATS an issue

  • @JustEdek
    @JustEdek 5 місяців тому

    waj

  • @XDR_Goose
    @XDR_Goose 5 місяців тому

    I saw you in tcm but you were afk😢

  • @prstechnic1774
    @prstechnic1774 3 місяці тому

    Ima be honest, i use wheelmode. Not because it gives me an advantage or anything, i like it cuz it makes the game super challenging for me and it helps me experience a new type of racing. Its honestly really fun and im not gonna stop until i master it.

  • @davidhebson1262
    @davidhebson1262 5 місяців тому +1

    thanks for video. In this video at the beginning ua-cam.com/video/AyZchZAxHZ4/v-deo.html you said people using 3rd party and mods is cheating.
    And the bottom line is, anyone using a program it is CHEATING.
    And that is why they scuttled away like a RAT from PSN and Xbox to PC so they can exploit. They know exactly what they are doing and using to gain advantage. I dont take this crap that im a top player etc. Its a game and its meant to be a fair game for all.

  • @TheEpicBear851
    @TheEpicBear851 5 місяців тому

    Hello :)

  • @alexcornnut
    @alexcornnut 5 місяців тому +6

    Wheel Mod is a ScapeGoat for people's Skill Issue.

    • @Squidward1912
      @Squidward1912 5 місяців тому

      Agreed!!! GET GOOD NOOOOOBS

    • @davidhebson1262
      @davidhebson1262 5 місяців тому +2

      What a load of rubbish, Its not a skill issue for some who use controller fairly. But using a Mod to gain advantage is a CHEAT as it makes it much harder for the fair players.. As a God fearing man, I will not be cheating on a stupid game for an advantage. If you choose to do it, Well shame on you. Are people really that desperate to be top of leaderboards in a daft game. More things in the world to worry about.

    • @alexcornnut
      @alexcornnut 5 місяців тому +2

      @@davidhebson1262 I did a deep dive video on this subject. At the end of the day this mod is for people trying to compete with Wheel players.

    • @davidhebson1262
      @davidhebson1262 5 місяців тому +2

      @@alexcornnut I am sorry my friend, But i also did a look into this. I watched your video thank you. And if people feel the need to use a MOD on game it is cheating. Like i said i cant understand why some folk are so desperate to be Top Dog. But to cheat in Grand race is a disgrace, And has nothing to do with Skill Issue. I am okay player and win a few Grand races. But cant compete with the exploiters as seen it first hand. Also Ive seen people crashing along side me and reseting ahead of me. And some have a glitch for max power. Anyway it is what it is. I wish you the best in your content creating work. Keep well and may God bless you.

    • @prstechnic1774
      @prstechnic1774 3 місяці тому

      Go use it then and tell me how many GR’s you win.

  • @Rs_ArGoX2170
    @Rs_ArGoX2170 5 місяців тому +1

    Bro lets be real the number of wheelmode players is so low thats no excuse for summits..
    And the people who do use it Where already the BEST players !
    So even tho i have some top 10 leaderboards and 200+grand race wins.. Me losing to one of them isnt purely because of wheelmode

  • @madelineariah
    @madelineariah 5 місяців тому

    Are people really this bad at the game? So bad they have to accuse people of being better simply by changing inputs? Spoiler: If you are on controller, and a car is not turning well, you can fix it easily in Pro Tuning for that car by decreasing camber and adjusting the sway bars. Furthermore, turning in Motorfest is actually dictated primarily by throttle response. If you hold the right trigger down about 40-50%, that will often throw your car into a drift. If you hold it 100% down, then your car will go more in a straight line which causes your understeer. Honestly, affixes are more "cheating" in Motorfest and that's simply because most people using them farmed them with a macro rather than spending the hours upon hours grinding for them.
    Ugh... Gamers...

  • @daviscory1980
    @daviscory1980 5 місяців тому

    #fairplaytcm #addwheelmose