The historical aspect cannot be understated. with almost each episode I learn something about a business or a state that I wouldn't have known before. This is my favorite UA-cam.
Karen Heyou Of course the poor Hawaiin people haven’t benefited at all By becoming a state. The influx of all that tourist money along with the military personnel pouring money into your economy is the last thing they wanted. Know doubt they would be happy living in the 19th century. How much fatter has the dreaded rich white mans money made your pay packet ?????
Yes, in those days there were only three television networks and this program was seen by a substantial percentage of the nation's population. It was bound to have had a big impact on public opinion.
Whatever part public opinion played in Hawaii becoming a state, the most important thing to get it through Congress is that it was believed that Hawaii would politically balance Alaska in Congress. By admitting both, neither party would gain an advantage over the other. And that's what happened although opposite of the way it was expected. It was believed that Hawaii would tilt Republican and Alaska Democratic, but it turned out in reverse over the years.
Intersting reference by Arlene Francis to the nightclub of Lou Walters, (the Latin Quarter), father of tv anchor Barbara Walters. Another great ep. Thanks.
I learned of the addition of Hawaii and Alaska the next day from Mrs. Jackson, my 2nd grade teacher. Equal to the wonder of having 50 states that day, was the first time Mrs. Jackson ever looked pleasant. (She was very short-tempered and wielded a mean yardstick!) A wondrous and unforgettable day for we 7-year-olds all around! 😲🥳🎉
In the 1960's, Dorothy Lamour had great success on Broadway as Dolly Levy. She was one of the stars who replaced Carol Channing when she ended her run in "Hello Dolly!". Obviously Miss Lamour could sing as the role required lots of singing.
According to the Internet Broadway Database, she never played Dolly on Broadway. She may well have toured in the show. Sadly, her stint in _Oh, Captain!_ opposite Tony Randall and replacing, of all people, Abbe Lane, lasted all of four performances and the show closed. I don't think it was because Ms. Lamour arrived. She had four solos or duets in the musical. Lane must have left the cast suddenly, because she was first replaced by an understudy for ten performances, i.e. the switch to Lamour was not planned for a long time (or else she would have had a long time to learn the part). Too bad. She never performed on Broadway again. She did make a few more movies and had numerous guest starring appearances on TV until she was 75.
So glad to see Martin Gabel ( a remarkable stage and character film actor) in the last seat. Whenever he’s there a certain insightful questioning is enjoyable. Bennett can’t match his polish demeanor. Everyone else is fantastic. Kudos to John Daily.
I liked Bennett Cerf (I liked Martin also). He wasn't even entertainer. He was a publisher, but he had this incredible whit. Also, the banter between him and Mr. Daly was priceless.
@@rodericgray5202 Cerf had a different role. Even though everyone knew he was married to Phyllis Cerf, Bennett got to do the all but leering old guy bit. That was the bit that his predecessor Hal Block did too, when he occupied Seat #4, though Block was much younger. I have no idea if Cerf was that way in real life, but that was part of his shtick (along with the puns -- "make a hog of himself," indeed, John!) on WML. Sexism was acceptable in those days. I always wished John would ask a man if he was "Mr. or Mr. Schlurfenhoofer," (assuming his surname was Schlurfenhoofer, of course) just to give equal treatment to male contestants, and see how they'd react. It's so much easier and fairer having "Ms." available.
I live a few miles from Vacaville and, until recently, it was well named because it really was a cow town. I was surprised when the contestant said he was from there. It’s now best known for having factory outlet stores.
Michael Danello - But the definition of Vacaville was "cow town," with vaca being Spanish for cow and ville being French for city or town, hence cow town. What a mash up.
Stage actors tend to make the transition to movie acting a lot easier than movie actors make the transition to acting on stage. That's why it has always been seen as something of an act of bravery to step out on the Broadway stage from Hollywood. Some actors have pulled it off rather successfully, other like Lamour, not so much.
@@sstavsky Nominated for five Tonys, but won none and ran only 192 performances in total. That would have made it a big hit in the 1920's, but not the 1950's.
At times I wish they would have gotten rid of the conferences. When they say a persons name or mention a particular line, just in conversation, the audience reacts and the games over.
@@jenniferyorgan4215 Dorothy was right. She asked just that the contestant's answer be repeated to her and John was already launched into one of his interpretations and refused to do so. All she wanted to know was what the guest had said. It would have been clear to her that Paar was joking. Sometimes John interfered in the process way too much. Dorothy was a fine crime reporter and like Joe Friday of TV fame wanted, "the facts, just the facts." She stuck to her guns. In any other situation, I'm certain she would have said to the guest, "Please repeat to me exactly what you said." And she'd have told John she did not need an interpretation. But she knew it was a game show and meant to be entertaining, so backed off. John was not as smart as she was. You may notice when he speaks to guests he speaks only in terms of his life or friends or what show biz has awarded them and does not seem to have much knowledge of the content of their writing or acting or painting, etc. He has all the airs and manners of the well-educated who know how to get ahead, but he does not seem to be a truly cultured man. I have to admit I love it when John answers too much for a guest and Dorothy asks, "Well, doesn't s/he know what they do?"
@@philippapay4352 But I do love when they get into an argument whether it be John and Dorothy;Arlene and John; or Bennett and John( mostly John and Dorothy because I think she wins most the time while with the others John usually wins) but it always makes me laugh and shade is throw 😂
@@philippapay4352 You are right, but why make it so important? Killgallen was a bit of a killjoy. She was concerned more about winning and competing instead of trying to please the viewers. She never got what it was all about for some reason, while her colleagues did.
@@WintersWar I was just noting what I had viewed when they were first on TV and now on UA-cam, lo these many years later. Dorothy was insecure and rigid in the extreme and had an inferiority complex that manifested itself in what appeared to be a superiority complex. She had to know she was right and could not relinquish any control and live in a mystery. Some of that was her upbringing and some was her crime reporter training to get to the bottom of things with facts. She is dead and she was talented and I prefer to elucidate something of the whole person and not diminish them inside one unfortunately displayed characteristic. Plus her feud with John could be funny. She probably worried about his influence.
Regarding the argument at 9:13, Dorothy and John were both right. Bob did specifically ask if he worked for the federal government at 5:37. But John basically told him to ask another question, and never provided a definite answer. So Dorothy was right that the question had been posed, but John was right that it had not been officially posed and answered.
Nobody mentioned on the program that guest panelist Bob Crosby was the younger brother of Bing Crosby, who appeared with mystery guest Dorthy Lamour in the "Road" pictures.
@John Richards Exactly. Though obviously not as successful as his brother, Bob Crosby was a bandleader and crooner in his own right. In fact he played himself in the Glenn Miller Story movie starring Jimmy Stewart.
It may have been a sore spot with Lamour as well. Her last movie before this appearance was Road to Bali, which had come out 6 years earlier. It wouldn't be very polite to say, "Do you remember working with my brother in those great films you made when you were more successful?" She appeared in 48 films in 16 years but then nothing from 1953 to 1961.
John Daly at times gave some huge hints! Also the audience laughing was a huge hint. I don't think they should have revealed the person's activity until after the end of the time frame.
Dorothy makes such a hard job of round 1. Perhaps she thought she was in a court of Law cross-examining a witness. Maybe Daly ended the round out of frustration rather than time.
Dorothy Lamour had not made in a film in five years when she appeared on this episode of What's My Line. Although she responded to one of the questions by the panelists in the affirmative that her principal occupation was a leading lady in films, her leading lady days in film were over. As Miss Lamour stated in her autobiography, when the Hollywood executives who ran the studios were finished with you they were finished with you. Miss Lamour wrote that could not even get a call past the secretaries of the film executives by this time. That is how Hollywood treated the majority of its female movie stars who reached 40 years old. Hedy Lamarr wrote that she never got over how she was discarded from Hollywood when she turned 40.
Just seen Martin Gabel almost unrecognisable, in the film Lady in Cement starring Frank Sinatra. Think I’ve seen postings from the Bird Imitator on Twitter! Didn’t Dorothy Lamour have a big hit with the song: Sarong, it’s Been Good to Know Ya?
I keep hearing words pronounced differently on this show then I am used to. funny how language evolves. they pronounced "aloha" as "AL low ha" I always heard it as " AH low ha".
Dorothy likely did have several million-selling recordings but she'd have no way of knowing at the time this show appeared. As the L.P. and then C.D. eras come in she sold a lot of music worldwide and probably had little idea of just how great sales were. As anyone in the record business can tell you, the best seller charts, the sales figures and the gold records were questionable at best.
Frank Weltner Did you ever get my message through Facebook? It seldom works for me. Contact me directly at wbrasle@ucls.uchicago.edu. I have faithfully followed you through the years and never forgotten you, nor for that matter anyone in Hadley-Major. I am still very connected with Mizzou and will be going there this summer to take people at the Journalism School to lunch. Being a totally nothing student there, not to mention total mess at all times, it is a big surprise since to have received several alumni honors and the School of Journalism Gold Medal, one of the few to ever go to a high school educator. I also publish a major publication for Normandy; if you've never heard of it or seen it I will send you the latest issue and Historic Edition I did. I am in St. Louis about every two or three weeks. I have been by your house just for old times sake. I have so many fun memories of you, Larry, Ray Ebert, Mike Miner, Al Word and your brother-in-law Winston (I always loved the fact you two ended up relatives; he was one of the most important people to me in college). To everyone else reading this, eat your heart out if YOUR college years weren't this much fun.
+Wayne Brasler She may have sold some records, but I doubt if they were in the millions. That high figure was only achieved by the likes of Sinatra, Doris Day, Crosby, Rosemary Clooney and a few others at that time.
+Many million sellers for the Andrews Sisters, Peggy Lee, Dick Haymes, and Billie Holiday, who had a bigger audience than people realize because she sold big to both black and white audiences (and anyone else with good taste).
All United States of America Territories have governors, and despite what John Daly said, they work for the National Government. Territorial Governors are appointed by the President of the United States.
Sometimes I think Dorothy Kilgallen would forget that it's just a game show. I'm noting here that she was getting her knots in a short in trying to figure out what was going on with the governor of Hawaii's general job description, as she was experiencing the apparent conflicting or contradictory aspects to what he did for a living. Each panelist has had his/her dramatic moments during a given episode, and, of course, this is part of the charm of the show; but, at times, I think they take it a little bit too seriously.
As far as the bay show and the cast album etc The 3 1/2 major labels Columbia, RCA, Decca (british owned to my memory) and Mercury sort was the 1/2, often all had stifling control of their artists and material. And they kept on with their control freak nonsense giving the public endless rehashed of increasing drid material as the public became more and more jaded and they were tone deaf to the rumbling from down south and some inner city neighborhoods and one day a unknown stepped front of a microphone in an (to them) obscure studio in Memphis and the age of the Brill building and Mitch Miller owning the world was in a flash over.....
The show didn't do well and was not doing well when Dottie was pushed into. Almost everything connected with it was a problem, including the original cast album and a spinoff album by Rosie Clooney.
+epaddon I never knew that! As I remember there was a Rosemary Clooney and Jose Ferrer album on M-G-M Records. The big labels in the 1950s had the peculiar habit of getting in the way of original cast albums, most notably and most horribly "White Christmas," where Mitch Miller would not let Rosemary Clooney participate on the film cast album on Decca, so Peggy Lee had to step in and Rosie recorded her own album (which is fabulous) on Columbia. This went on all the time and it was nuts. But so much was nuts in the record business in the 1940s and 1950s; I know, I was there.
+Wayne Brasler I should add that Abbe Lane, a nice Jewish girl from the New York City area, was doing great business for RCA and all her albums for that label are outstanding.
It's a sad commentary that Fiedel Castro hijacked 🇨🇺 in 1959 because it could've been either the 49th or 50th State with Alaska and Hawaii being 50th and 51st States respectively 🇨🇺 not Hawaii would've become the hot destination for those in the Northern States who wanted to go on vacation in January and February which are the coldest months of the year
The Spanish-American War of 1898 resulted in the INDEPENDENCE of Cuba from Spain. So in 1958, Cuba was an independent country for 60 years. Castro would not affect the independence of Cuba, so your comment is blatantly wrong.
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The historical aspect cannot be understated. with almost each episode I learn something about a business or a state that I wouldn't have known before. This is my favorite UA-cam.
It's also mindblowing to think that this was one year before Hawaii became a state. Hence the "No" response to whether he worked in state government.
I’m a cultural historian and I still learn lots from these programs!
Such class & respect. Great show.
My Dorothy was a true beauty. I saw so many of those road pictures lol
What a pleasure & joy to watch this show. Thank you.
I remember this show when I a youngster and I so glad to see this again for so many reasons.
Really interesting to see the discussion about Hawaii wanting to become a state! A good episode.
+cassiemoira Agreed!
Governor of Alaska also appeared some months ago
The rich, white minority of businessmen who overthrew the Hawaiian monarchy wanted it to be a state. The Hawaiian people did not.
Karen Heyou Of course the poor Hawaiin people haven’t benefited at all By becoming a state. The influx of all that tourist money along with the military personnel pouring money into your economy is the last thing they wanted. Know doubt they would be happy living in the 19th century. How much fatter has the dreaded rich white mans money made your pay packet ?????
@@michaelnaisbitt1639 that's fine if money is your measure of happiness
Looking on this now. This episode may very well have swayed the popular opinion, at the time, of making Hawaii our 50th State. Amazing.
Yes, in those days there were only three television networks and this program was seen by a substantial percentage of the nation's population. It was bound to have had a big impact on public opinion.
Whatever part public opinion played in Hawaii becoming a state, the most important thing to get it through Congress is that it was believed that Hawaii would politically balance Alaska in Congress. By admitting both, neither party would gain an advantage over the other. And that's what happened although opposite of the way it was expected. It was believed that Hawaii would tilt Republican and Alaska Democratic, but it turned out in reverse over the years.
@@loissimmons6558 thank God for the great State of Alaska.
Intersting reference by Arlene Francis to the nightclub of Lou Walters, (the Latin Quarter), father of tv anchor Barbara Walters. Another great ep. Thanks.
I learned of the addition of Hawaii and Alaska the next day from Mrs. Jackson, my 2nd grade teacher. Equal to the wonder of having 50 states that day, was the first time Mrs. Jackson ever looked pleasant. (She was very short-tempered and wielded a mean yardstick!) A wondrous and unforgettable day for we 7-year-olds all around! 😲🥳🎉
Dorothy Lamour made the Sarong famous
The women always dressed nicely and the men very smart. Loved how John held the chair for the ladies
Dorothy Lamour was a lovely singer and entertainer.
I was born in the wrong era. God I love this show.
this show was a class act.......
interesting show and guests.
Never to be matched
I liked when ladies wore white gloves. This show always makes me smile 😊
I remember my mom having white gloves in the 60s…but I think she wore them more in the 50s.
yes, now the ladies need tattoos and torn jeans to be trendy. i'm glad i enjoyed the 60's in uk
History, politics,culture, and Dorothy gets pissed....I love this show !!
JAY TERRY - It all made the program a delight.
@@shirleyrombough8173 And don't forget Arlene's lovely jokes
Sydney Cogan - Absolutely!
Dorothy is so cute when she argues with Daily.
About 1 year after this broadcast Hawaii did become a state. Aug 21, 1959.
In the 1960's, Dorothy Lamour had great success on Broadway as Dolly Levy. She was one of the stars who replaced Carol Channing when she ended her run in "Hello Dolly!". Obviously Miss Lamour could sing as the role required lots of singing.
According to the Internet Broadway Database, she never played Dolly on Broadway. She may well have toured in the show. Sadly, her stint in _Oh, Captain!_ opposite Tony Randall and replacing, of all people, Abbe Lane, lasted all of four performances and the show closed. I don't think it was because Ms. Lamour arrived. She had four solos or duets in the musical. Lane must have left the cast suddenly, because she was first replaced by an understudy for ten performances, i.e. the switch to Lamour was not planned for a long time (or else she would have had a long time to learn the part). Too bad. She never performed on Broadway again. She did make a few more movies and had numerous guest starring appearances on TV until she was 75.
Well, by the sixties, she sounded like Carol Channing after all her smoking!
Hawaii Governor William F. Quinn lived from 1919 until 2006 and in 1965 became president of the Dole Pineapple Company until 1972.
I wonder what sordid stories follow him
Not part of the contiguous/ tangential United States
So glad to see Martin Gabel ( a remarkable stage and character film actor) in the last seat.
Whenever he’s there a certain insightful questioning is enjoyable. Bennett can’t match his polish demeanor. Everyone else is fantastic. Kudos to John Daily.
I liked Bennett Cerf (I liked Martin also). He wasn't even entertainer. He was a publisher, but he had this incredible whit. Also, the banter between him and Mr. Daly was priceless.
@@rodericgray5202 Cerf had a different role. Even though everyone knew he was married to Phyllis Cerf, Bennett got to do the all but leering old guy bit. That was the bit that his predecessor Hal Block did too, when he occupied Seat #4, though Block was much younger. I have no idea if Cerf was that way in real life, but that was part of his shtick (along with the puns -- "make a hog of himself," indeed, John!) on WML. Sexism was acceptable in those days. I always wished John would ask a man if he was "Mr. or Mr. Schlurfenhoofer," (assuming his surname was Schlurfenhoofer, of course) just to give equal treatment to male contestants, and see how they'd react. It's so much easier and fairer having "Ms." available.
The panel participants don't foster competition between themselves. Why do some commenters try to compare to the extreme?
Arlene and Martin were real soul mates, same sense of humor, always so warm among them.
They can have each other. I detested both of them!
@@roberttelarket4934 eewwww! You are a misfit to the classy representation of a fine Production. Your comment adds nothing, BTW.
@@larnakeane8940: Shut up you high grade moron! You have no taste! Further you don’t know they were "foreigners"!
A perfect pair!
Marin Gabel reminds me of my brother-in -law. He was always well-spoken, polite, and smart.
Vacaville, California! What a peculiar combination of Spanish and French to avoid calling the placd "cow-town".
Michael Danello - Well the name was "Cow Town," Vaca is cow in Spanish and Ville is French for town.
I live a few miles from Vacaville and, until recently, it was well named because it really was a cow town. I was surprised when the contestant said he was from there. It’s now best known for having factory outlet stores.
Michael Danello - But the definition of Vacaville was "cow town," with vaca being Spanish for cow and ville being French for city or town, hence cow town. What a mash up.
3/17/21 Wow! I live 25 miles away from Vacaville, CA in Vallejo, CA. I never knew it stood for "Cow Town" 🐮🐄🤠. Love this show! 🤗👍🏾
@@kimjohnson4558 - from Napa here. Didn’t know that either. 👍🏻
Dorothy's nervousness about taking over from Abbe Lane in "Oh Captain!" was justified. The show closed a week after she took over the part.
Was that mainly because of her, or was the show already winding down when she took over?
It was her.
Stage actors tend to make the transition to movie acting a lot easier than movie actors make the transition to acting on stage. That's why it has always been seen as something of an act of bravery to step out on the Broadway stage from Hollywood. Some actors have pulled it off rather successfully, other like Lamour, not so much.
@@MikkoHere The show's reviews when it came out were actually quite mixed.
@@sstavsky Nominated for five Tonys, but won none and ran only 192 performances in total. That would have made it a big hit in the 1920's, but not the 1950's.
Interesting how probably most of the USA think that Hawaii has been a state since 1800.Thanks for the video. Arlene is great. Thanks for the video.
At times I wish they would have gotten rid of the conferences. When they say a persons name or mention a particular line, just in conversation, the audience reacts and the games over.
Charming Dorothy Lamour 💖
The Birdman of Vacaville had a pretty interesting little career in radio, TV, and film with his bird and animal imitations.
Arlene is amazing at guessing the special guest.
Arlene and Dorothy made it a point to know who was in New York that week and where.
Stand-Up Watch: Arlene did her half-stand for Governor Quinn. Dorothy didn't. (And I loved Dorothy's almost-argument with John during that session.)
"Check the kinescope John"
Dorothy was certainly being feisty.
@@jenniferyorgan4215 Dorothy was right. She asked just that the contestant's answer be repeated to her and John was already launched into one of his interpretations and refused to do so. All she wanted to know was what the guest had said. It would have been clear to her that Paar was joking. Sometimes John interfered in the process way too much. Dorothy was a fine crime reporter and like Joe Friday of TV fame wanted, "the facts, just the facts." She stuck to her guns. In any other situation, I'm certain she would have said to the guest, "Please repeat to me exactly what you said." And she'd have told John she did not need an interpretation. But she knew it was a game show and meant to be entertaining, so backed off. John was not as smart as she was. You may notice when he speaks to guests he speaks only in terms of his life or friends or what show biz has awarded them and does not seem to have much knowledge of the content of their writing or acting or painting, etc. He has all the airs and manners of the well-educated who know how to get ahead, but he does not seem to be a truly cultured man. I have to admit I love it when John answers too much for a guest and Dorothy asks, "Well, doesn't s/he know what they do?"
@@philippapay4352 But I do love when they get into an argument whether it be John and Dorothy;Arlene and John; or Bennett and John( mostly John and Dorothy because I think she wins most the time while with the others John usually wins) but it always makes me laugh and shade is throw 😂
@@philippapay4352 You are right, but why make it so important? Killgallen was a bit of a killjoy. She was concerned more about winning and competing instead of trying to please the viewers. She never got what it was all about for some reason, while her colleagues did.
@@WintersWar I was just noting what I had viewed when they were first on TV and now on UA-cam, lo these many years later. Dorothy was insecure and rigid in the extreme and had an inferiority complex that manifested itself in what appeared to be a superiority complex. She had to know she was right and could not relinquish any control and live in a mystery. Some of that was her upbringing and some was her crime reporter training to get to the bottom of things with facts. She is dead and she was talented and I prefer to elucidate something of the whole person and not diminish them inside one unfortunately displayed characteristic. Plus her feud with John could be funny. She probably worried about his influence.
Regarding the argument at 9:13, Dorothy and John were both right. Bob did specifically ask if he worked for the federal government at 5:37. But John basically told him to ask another question, and never provided a definite answer. So Dorothy was right that the question had been posed, but John was right that it had not been officially posed and answered.
I'm gonna do a bad Bennett pun in his honor at 23:20 - "Two sarongs don't make a right!"
Not many will agree with me, but I like the shows in which Bennett Cerf is on vacation, and Martin Gabel is filling in.
I disagree, I did like Bennett and Martin Almost the same, Bennett a little more
I have grown to love B. Cerf after watching these. He is quite playful on top of very smart.
They are all great... fun... smart and enjoyed. 2023
We all have our preferences, likes and opinions. However my guess is no one connected with the Show would welcome any extreme favoritism.
Agreed
Bird guy was good!
Yes, he must have been popular with the chicks!
Yes he really was interesting.
Sometimes, as Dr. Horatio Q. Birdbath, he did bird calls for Spike Jones.
Nobody mentioned on the program that guest panelist Bob Crosby was the younger brother of Bing Crosby, who appeared with mystery guest Dorthy Lamour in the "Road" pictures.
@John Richards Exactly. Though obviously not as successful as his brother, Bob Crosby was a bandleader and crooner in his own right. In fact he played himself in the Glenn Miller Story movie starring Jimmy Stewart.
It may have been a sore spot with Lamour as well. Her last movie before this appearance was Road to Bali, which had come out 6 years earlier.
It wouldn't be very polite to say, "Do you remember working with my brother in those great films you made when you were more successful?"
She appeared in 48 films in 16 years but then nothing from 1953 to 1961.
Terri henricks - Maybe everyone knew Bob Crosby was Bing's brother.
@socal rocks He didn't need them, but I think they tended to drag him down, instead.
@@shirleyrombough8173 he certainly looked like his brother.
John Daly at times gave some huge hints! Also the audience laughing was a huge hint. I don't think they should have revealed the person's activity until after the end of the time frame.
interesting collection of side partings
The bird man. One of the few times a guest is allowed to demonstrate their ability.
Mr. Pullen aka Dr. Horatio Q. Birdbath did a lot of bird calls for Spike Jones’s band.
Letterman used to have people doing birdcalls -- not at this chap's level
Arlene constantly badgers the contestants to perform AND tries to force the MGs to perform all the time.
Dorothy makes such a hard job of round 1.
Perhaps she thought she was in a court of Law cross-examining a witness. Maybe Daly ended the round out of frustration rather than time.
Bob Crosby was better looking than his brother Bing..
You are on the money!
Dorothy Lamour had not made in a film in five years when she appeared on this episode of What's My Line. Although she responded to one of the questions by the panelists in the affirmative that her principal occupation was a leading lady in films, her leading lady days in film were over. As Miss Lamour stated in her autobiography, when the Hollywood executives who ran the studios were finished with you they were finished with you. Miss Lamour wrote that could not even get a call past the secretaries of the film executives by this time. That is how Hollywood treated the majority of its female movie stars who reached 40 years old. Hedy Lamarr wrote that she never got over how she was discarded from Hollywood when she turned 40.
Ironic that big modern companies are now quietly moving individuals 45 and older out for social media kids who still at home
oh please, cut that feministic shit, maybe she didn't get the job, because she was not talented
JACK ANTHONY - Miss Lamour was beautiful. Too bad Hollywood was so mired in the unproductive general sexism of the world, still with us.
@@sg-yq8pm that's dignifying it!
@@sg-yq8pm that's dignitying it!
Too bad we don't have politicians like Bill Quinn today. He would straighten out the mess in Washington DC today.
WILLIAM FRANCIS QUINN, the first contestant was Hawaii’s first governor.
Dorothy Lamour joined the cast of “Oh, Captain!” On 16 July 1958, and the show closed on 19 July 1958... oh no!
Just seen Martin Gabel almost unrecognisable, in the film Lady in Cement starring Frank Sinatra.
Think I’ve seen postings from the Bird Imitator on Twitter!
Didn’t Dorothy Lamour have a big hit with the song: Sarong, it’s Been Good to Know Ya?
I keep hearing words pronounced differently on this show then I am used to.
funny how language evolves.
they pronounced "aloha" as "AL low ha" I always heard it as " AH low ha".
Hawaii wasn't a state yet, I dont think they, or many Americans, were that familiar with the greeting.
That's right, your sarong!
Dorothy likely did have several million-selling recordings but she'd have no way of knowing at the time this show appeared. As the L.P. and then C.D. eras come in she sold a lot of music worldwide and probably had little idea of just how great sales were. As anyone in the record business can tell you, the best seller charts, the sales figures and the gold records were questionable at best.
Seems like a Major House reunion in here.
Frank Weltner Did you ever get my message through Facebook? It seldom works for me. Contact me directly at wbrasle@ucls.uchicago.edu. I have faithfully followed you through the years and never forgotten you, nor for that matter anyone in Hadley-Major. I am still very connected with Mizzou and will be going there this summer to take people at the Journalism School to lunch. Being a totally nothing student there, not to mention total mess at all times, it is a big surprise since to have received several alumni honors and the School of Journalism Gold Medal, one of the few to ever go to a high school educator. I also publish a major publication for Normandy; if you've never heard of it or seen it I will send you the latest issue and Historic Edition I did. I am in St. Louis about every two or three weeks. I have been by your house just for old times sake. I have so many fun memories of you, Larry, Ray Ebert, Mike Miner, Al Word and your brother-in-law Winston (I always loved the fact you two ended up relatives; he was one of the most important people to me in college). To everyone else reading this, eat your heart out if YOUR college years weren't this much fun.
+Wayne Brasler She may have sold some records, but I doubt if they were in the millions. That high figure was only achieved by the likes of Sinatra, Doris Day, Crosby, Rosemary Clooney and a few others at that time.
+Many million sellers for the Andrews Sisters, Peggy Lee, Dick Haymes, and Billie Holiday, who had a bigger audience than people realize because she sold big to both black and white audiences (and anyone else with good taste).
Hawaii was not yet a state in 1958.
March 1959.
August 21, 1959.
Miss Lamour's "schtick" reminds me of Irene Dunne's 1953 appearance as mystery guest. Miss Dunne did it much better!
Hawaii had a governor before it became a state.
All United States of America Territories have governors, and despite what John Daly said, they work for the National Government. Territorial Governors are appointed by the President of the United States.
Some branch of state? No. Huh? Governor of state.Ok, so old Hawaii was not yet a state!
This would be the first time I’ve ever seen Arlene dress like a flowerbed. Minus weeds
Hawaii and Alaska.. made a complete pig's ear out of the song "Let's Get Away From It ALL!"
Something rhyming with "nifty" might be a clue!
Sometimes I think Dorothy Kilgallen would forget that it's just a game show. I'm noting here that she was getting her knots in a short in trying to figure out what was going on with the governor of Hawaii's general job description, as she was experiencing the apparent conflicting or contradictory aspects to what he did for a living. Each panelist has had his/her dramatic moments during a given episode, and, of course, this is part of the charm of the show; but, at times, I think they take it a little bit too seriously.
*_Governor of Hawaii_*
*_Professional Bird Imitator_*
When will you become a State?: the following year🎩
Alaska in January 1959
Hawai'i in August 1959
Lamour put some weight on here, but it didn't deter from her sexuality imo. sexy, smart and funny.
An enjoyable episode due to the absence of boring, stuffy Bennett.
18:44 Sounded Like Iguana
how do they not know he's the governor?
Who is the current Governor of Alabama? What does he look like?
… i didn’t think so.
He actually was the territorial governor since Hawai'i was not officially a state until May 1959.
There was an actor named Bill Quinn. This is not he, though.
Well I just listened to Dorothy Lamour for the first time and now I know why she didn't have a gold record. Yuk!
Dorothy had a good voice, just listen to some of the Road Pictures she sang in!
She was a very good singer.
sometimes i skip johns conferences
Plenty of Hawaiians in the past or now don't want Hawaii to be a U.S. state!
Really a moot point
I don't want you to be here, but it's a moot point.
As far as the bay show and the cast album etc The 3 1/2 major labels Columbia, RCA, Decca (british owned to my memory) and Mercury sort was the 1/2, often all had stifling control of their artists and material. And they kept on with their control freak nonsense giving the public endless rehashed of increasing drid material as the public became more and more jaded and they were tone deaf to the rumbling from down south and some inner city neighborhoods and one day a unknown stepped front of a microphone in an (to them) obscure studio in Memphis and the age of the Brill building and Mitch Miller owning the world was in a flash over.....
The bird imitator was excellent but I prefer the woman who sings like a chicken on I Love Lucy!
The show didn't do well and was not doing well when Dottie was pushed into. Almost everything connected with it was a problem, including the original cast album and a spinoff album by Rosie Clooney.
+Wayne Brasler Yes, the problem with the cast album being that Abbe Lane wasn't allowed to do it because of her own record contract.
+epaddon I never knew that! As I remember there was a Rosemary Clooney and Jose Ferrer album on M-G-M Records. The big labels in the 1950s had the peculiar habit of getting in the way of original cast albums, most notably and most horribly "White Christmas," where Mitch Miller would not let Rosemary Clooney participate on the film cast album on Decca, so Peggy Lee had to step in and Rosie recorded her own album (which is fabulous) on Columbia. This went on all the time and it was nuts. But so much was nuts in the record business in the 1940s and 1950s; I know, I was there.
+Wayne Brasler I should add that Abbe Lane, a nice Jewish girl from the New York City area, was doing great business for RCA and all her albums for that label are outstanding.
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It's a sad commentary that Fiedel Castro hijacked 🇨🇺 in 1959 because it could've been either the 49th or 50th State with Alaska and Hawaii being 50th and 51st States respectively 🇨🇺 not Hawaii would've become the hot destination for those in the Northern States who wanted to go on vacation in January and February which are the coldest months of the year
The Spanish-American War of 1898 resulted in the INDEPENDENCE of Cuba from Spain. So in 1958, Cuba was an independent country for 60 years. Castro would not affect the independence of Cuba, so your comment is blatantly wrong.
I wonder if women in the 50s liked wearing gloves? Seems like they would be a pain...
Dorothy looks a wee bit chubby here: but loved her: not a person who attracted negative gossip: like Dinah Shore
It’s clear that she was getting older but that happens. Still wearing the sexy halter dress did not help but she had class!
@@gilliankew yes.
I like Bennet better than Martit
Bob Crosby was about as useful on the panel as teats on a bull.
It is hard to believe that he is the brother of Bing Crosby.
Miss Lamour looks chubby here
Allot of us do as we age!
This is fixed. Arlene spouts out the name without any more clues.
What purpose would that serve? As it is, they had time they had to kill.