Ralph Houk " the Iron Major" was a Yankees catcher in the 40's and 50's but had the misfortune of playing behind Yogi Berra, he then lead the Yankees to world series titles in 1961 and 1962
I had the good fortune of meeting Ralph Houk when he was asked to manage a much tougher task than the Yankees. In 1974, while editing the sports pages of the Ypsilanti (MI) Press, Ralph managed a rebuilding Detroit Tigers team. The Tigers had two straight last place teams, but he accepted his assignment with grace and, usually, good humor. In 1976, Ralph managed one of the great folk legends of MLB, Mark (The Bird) Fidrych. Two years later, Ralph retired after breaking in two Hall of Famers (Jack Morris and Alan Trammell) and one (Lou Whitaker) who SHOULD be in the Hall of Fame. Ralph was a brave WWII hero and a heckuva manager.
Interesting. There were two former Yankees in the '60's who were military veterans and managed WS winners: Houk with the Yanks and Hank Baur with the Orioles
I am so hooked on these wonderful episodes; especially loved this one! I’d have liked to know the endearing, witty & marvelous panelists too/ Dorothy was adorable with the lady who developed the back scratcher for cows, Arlene so pretty too & charming, as they all were. Such a refreshing contrast compared to most of today’s programs. ☺️👏🏻🐄😉
@@shirleyrombough8173 Yes. That’s what my weak memory and strong google skills says. Speaking of weak memory “Rombough,” more likely spelled Rumbough,” reminds me of a colleague at INS / DOJ in Virginia. Any relation?
@@m.e.d.7997 Beauty is subjective, but if you worked for a talent agency and were tasked to recruit a “beautiful “ woman and returned with Dorothy, be thankful for unemployment insurance. On her best day, Dorothy is plain. On the other hand, Arlene.
@@gregengel1616 You said "Dorothy was in a spring chicken." ? :) anyway, I agree with you and many others, Dorothy was lovely! Maybe not the regular, "same-old" same appearance but extremely appealing. Not to mention the fact of her high intelligence, professional accomplishments and humour.
@@aileen694 Oops, I should really have my reading glasses on when I send these. Thank you for pointing out that she was no spring chicken. With everything else she had going for her, she was obviously beautiful in both of our eyes.
This episode was broadcast 10 days after the Yankees lost the 1960 World Series to the Pittsburgh Pirates in 7 games. It was the last game in which Casey Stengel managed the Yankees. The Yankees were a much better team and scored many more runs, but lost the World Series in Game 7. Mickey Mantle said several times that it was the most painful loss of his career. Ralph Houk replaced Casey Stengel and won the World Series in 1961 and 1962.
Katarzyna Kopeć Reminds me of Dorothy's "leading man" comment ("the fellow who gets the girl in the end") that got Sal Mineo and everyone else laughing on the June 30, 1957 episode. In that case, a subtle matter of emphasis in phrasing made it seem that Dorothy was suggesting something bawdier than she would have intended.
Janet Leigh is so bloody talented and beautiful......I've read the biographies and it never ceases to amaze me that Tony Curtis could treat this "Babe" so shabilly. If you've never seen "Holiday Affair" with Janet and Robert Mitchum - shes never been More gorgeous....Such a beautiful Actress , right up there with Marilyn...
One of the differences between today’s so-called celebrities and Yesterday’s true celebrities is that many of the celebrities of yesteryear served in the military, many of them in dangerous and historic battles.
We've used the cow scratcher for years, put the fly powder on it and they love it! WOW! Janet Leigh was definitely a babe. I'm in love! again Of course she was best known for the shower/chop-chop scene in Psycho(1960) Filming that scene convinced her to NEVER take another shower and she didn't!!!
Ralph Houk was a patriot and an excellent manager. His criticism was that anybody could win with Mantle, Maris. Ford, Stafford, Howard, Berra, Boyer, Richarson, Kubek on your team but dealing with all those stars is not easy. Janet Leigh is great. Thanks for the video.
This aired October 23, 1960. Casey Stengel had just been fired from the Yankees, after more than a decade of service. At the time, Leigh was married to actor Tony Curtis, a marriage that would end in divorce two years later. Leigh remarried to businessman Robert Brandt, a union that lasted until her death in 2004.
Thanks for sharing the episode with us. "Psycho Lady".. unforgettable witty woman, somewhat connected with the Rat Pack folks, as far as I remember, correct me if I am wrong, please. Sure I am, as usual... never mind. Cheers, guys !
What always got me is that if the panel doesn't figure out what the guest does, John won't let the contestant describe what they do, he always has to do if for them, and he is not always right.
My mother taught in a private school founded by the granddaughter of Wm. Jennings Bryan, who raised her, Gateway School's Helen Bryan Touyarot. I never got to ask her about the Scopes trial.
And Jessica Rabbit was just drawn that way! Apparently without figure aids at this age, Janet Leigh certainly seems to have been blessed with a truly hourglass figure. Supposedly they were 37-23-35 with a C cup bra.
I don't think they hate them all. I think they just that to get a reaction from the audience (like some of US would do. Pretend we hated something just to get a reaction)
In the best possible manner I would like to note that Mrs. Morrison had the appearance, bearing and demeanor of someone who attended preparatory school in New England. She comported herself in a fashion that seemed to me the epitome of what one would hope to achieve when sending one's child to that sort of private school.
Second game: Dorothy, Arlene and Bennett played the game straight, so when they did funny things it was a bonanza. All the laughter involving Dorothy was a bonanza, but it has a serious side, especially at 17:00 when John wonders if she is all right. This and the repeated Dentistry question in this period tend to hint that she was coming off the tracks. Within a few months she was hospitalized for problems compounded by drug abuse.
The repeated questions about dentistry does NOT indicate she was coming off the tracks. It turns out a that a prominent celebrity, I believe Casey Stengel, had studied dentistry before their current career. Asking about dentistry was about as irrelevant as asking them if they sang or danced.
Mrs. Morrison and John Daly have made it awfully hard to search for the Morrison family, by dint of signing in as Boo, and never using her husband's name. I do, however, have reasonable supposition to think she was Elizabeth, married to Samuel (who died in 1973 and was a cattleman & in the cattleman's various associations.). If it is her, she was about 55 here, which fits. Died in 1989.
juliansinger - Weird isn't it that this 55 year old looks about 75 these days? Everyone assumed that by 40 one was "finished" with looking desirable. Not anymore, thank heaven.
juliansinger - Boo, as in Boo Radley? I guess my references are based on the wonderful book and movie To Kill a Mockingbird. And so it will be if anyone uses any name so associated.
Purple Capricorn -- It seems to me that Dorothy has loosened up in the 1960's due to having a few wee drinkies before going on the air. People under the influence tend to laugh more than when they're not.
@ToddSF 94109 That's true, but I think there was also more to it than that. After being on the panel for so many years, I think she eventually began to feel so comfortable and at home there that she was able to allow herself to loosen up a bit.
6:49....Casey Stengel...the man Ralph Houk replaced as N.Y.Yankee manager...would become the first manager of the N.Y.Mets....who played their first 2 seasons at the Polo Grounds...before Shea Stadium opened
Ms. Neves played in the Lenox School of Jazz Concert as a member of the Gunther Schuller Ensemble, 1958. In that concert, bandleader Herb Pomeroy anticipated one of my better puns (Who was the Lone Ranger's favorite jazz musician? Remember, his HORSE was named Silver.) Pomeroy's entry was called "LONE RANGER AND THE GREAT HORACE SILVER.": Silver was not part of the group. I've come in second before, when I thought of "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think." (one of my hetter efforts), only to discover that Dorothy Parker beat me to it. Great minds ...
Does anybody know if the intros at the beginning were off the cuff, or were they written by the program staff? Also were the outfits the ladies were their own or were they provided by the program? Also when Daly states to Houk I hope you when as many pennants as Stengel . We know the answer is no . Mr Stengel won more pennants any other Yankee manager as of 2019.
Two years later… Some of the more routine intros (e.g. what the next panelist is currently starring in) might have been written by staff, or simply read from a fact sheet. Bennett’s certainly appear to be his own, and many of the intros come across to me as being genuine expressions by the other panelists.
When the vieitor used to go before the panel, had pne of the panelists asked to examine Ms. Neves' hands, might they have detected a clue? When my first violin teacher was gigging on stand-up, and they tried to print him, the fingers of his left hand were so callused that they wouldn't take!
As a big fan of the team that had just won the 1960 World Series, hearing Dorothy's question about Ralph Houk being from Pittsburgh makes me wish there could have been a Pirate on as a guest around the time the Series was being played!
She was a darned good actress and lovely. She is so sexy here but you can see her in films with so many different "looks", especially with long dark natural hair when she was younger: so soft looking. - Anyway, for some reason, some actresses really "mug" on this show. She did every facial expression from A to Z. Well, maybe I'm jealous. ..No, I'm sure any sane lady would be.
By this point in watching the series, I've read several observations in the comments of different episodes about Dorothy's possible impairment. I must say I've always expected not to be able to tell, in that if I looked for it, I'd no doubt find it. Thus, I couldn't know if it were real or if it were my imagination. Someone with more experience or greater discernment than I would be able to tell, no doubt, but I wouldn't. However, this episode it really did seem to be clearly demonstrated: Dorothy's slurred speech (particularly the way she pronounces "Mrs. Morrison" at 10:06 and 13:04), her fumbling for words, her swaying (or rocking) from side to side in closeup, John Daly's asking her at 17:01, "Dorothy, you feeling well?", her apparently confused behavior when questioning Janet Leigh, and her seeming to have trouble taking her blindfold off (20:03). For the first time, I'm pretty much convinced.
+Robert Melson I have also been reading the comments, wondering how much the observations are based on knowing things in hindsight. What occurred to me is that it never reached a level where Goodson/Todman felt that they had to fire her. In fact, it would appear that neither Fates in his book or Cerf in his interviews ever mentions that it was even threatened.
One or two seasons prior to this, she inexplicably began to giggle a lot and I wondered if she was feeling no pain. However, she seemed as sharp as ever, following trains of thought and effectively playing the game. We'll see how this progresses as I continue to watch these all in chronological order. I adore Dorothy and I mourn her, though she died when I was 6.
John Daly: Let’s begin with Miss Kilgallen Dorothy Kilgallen: You are self-employed and provide a service? Mystery Guest: Yes Dorothy Kilgallen: Are you Jesus of Nazareth? Mystery Guest: Yes!
I know him best as the Red Sox's manager, since his teams were when I first started paying attention. I only found out he'd been a Yankees stalwart via Ball Four. (I was all betrayed.)
+soulierinvestments Ralph Houk managed the Yankees initially from 1961-63, winning the AL pennant all three years. In his first two years, he also won the World Series. The Yankees were swept by the Dodgers in 1963 (a glorious Series from my point of view). Houk didn't leave the Yankees at that point. He became their General Manager and Yogi Berra managed the team into the World Series against the Cardinals. Both teams looked like they were not going to win the pennant, so the Yankees had made the decision to fire Berra after one season and the Cardinals had decided to fire Johnny Keane. The Yankees then hired Keane to manage for 1965 and that was when they began an 11 season stretch without winning any pennants. Keane was fired after 22 games of the 1966 season with the Yankees in last place. Houk returned to the dugout as team manager and stepped down as General Manager. Although the team responded to Houk and played better, they had started so poorly that they couldn't get out of the cellar. Houk managed the Yankees through the 1973 season and the best finish he attained was 2nd place in the East Division in 1970. Then he managed the Tigers from 1974 to 1978 and the Red Sox from 1981 to 1984. His best finish during those seasons was 3rd in the East.
George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees in 1973 and all rational thought was lost after that. The managers cycled through, players came and went, and at one point their best pitcher was a reliever who liked to sit on chocolate cakes. (Or at least he claimed he liked to sit on chocolate cakes). The Red Sox were perennial losers until 2003, when they broke the curse. Not even Ralph Houk could help them.
And that's when the Yankees were known as the Bronx Zoo. As Graig Nettles said, as a child he had two aspirations: to play major league baseball and to join the circus. When he was traded to the Yankees, he fulfilled both. But he also played some amazing defense at third base against the Dodgers in the World Series. They hit some rockets in his direction but couldn't get them past him.
Funny that Mr. Daily would make the comment I have always made. He never understood and neither did I on why did they get upset when the first thing on the show is to blindfold themselves.
Noticed when the blindfolds come off they wipe their eyes. Probably hot under there, what with the stage and TV lights, or maybe their fake eyelashes got smooshed. IMO
I wondered for the previous season or two if she was getting a little loopy, but she always follows trains of thought and plays the game well. If she has a problem, she's still coping. For now.
Something that I've noticed is when actresses walk to shake hands with the panel, they walk in a very graceful way, as if they have practiced, compared to the women who are ordinary on the show.
They didn't know in 1960 that Psycho would be be a movie that any teenager in 2019 would have heard of unlike this wonderful game show. The future for all of us is a dark and foggy thing. If we could see 2079 it might be more than we could handle.
@Karl Schwinbarger. In re your Psycho comment: That, plus the fact that most teenager/young adults I have asked, think that the original is much better than the remake. Then impact of that one movie is phenomenal.
Never knew about the eating disorder. Agree The beautiful Janet did not age well. She dies in 2004. At that time she was suffering from a rare skin disorder as well.
@@m.e.d.7997 If I remember correctly Jamie Lee mentioned something about it in a magazine interview. Yes,I believe it was vasculitis. I've heard it is a very painful condition.
The body's very forgiving when young. If you're still smoking and abusing substances at about age 45, the damage becomes permanent and potentially lethal. Both my brothers stroked at age 52 and subsequently died from smoking related causes.
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Janet Leigh is stunning. Absolutely gorgeous!
Merrida100 Janet Leigh according to Jamie lee Curtis always had a eating disorder.
@@nadiazahroon6573 Never knew that but she was always very thin except for her full bustline always.
Jamie Leigh looks so much like her
Janet Leigh was truly one of the best looking actresses in Hollywood and very very talented as well.
She looked anorexic and sickly all through the 70s, 80s and 90s. @@nadiazahroon6573
OMG, how I love this woman, as great an actress as she was she is equally as lovely a person.
"Who's SHE? The cat?" my Grandma would have asked you.
WOW, Janet looks awesome here!!!
Leigh was just beautiful…
I like how John warns all the cities Bennett is going to😄
🤣
Janet Leigh is so stunningly beautiful! 🥰👏
Ralph Houk " the Iron Major" was a Yankees catcher in the 40's and 50's but had the misfortune of playing behind Yogi Berra, he then lead the Yankees to world series titles in 1961 and 1962
I had the good fortune of meeting Ralph Houk when he was asked to manage a much tougher task than the Yankees. In 1974, while editing the sports pages of the Ypsilanti (MI) Press, Ralph managed a rebuilding Detroit Tigers team. The Tigers had two straight last place teams, but he accepted his assignment with grace and, usually, good humor. In 1976, Ralph managed one of the great folk legends of MLB, Mark (The Bird) Fidrych. Two years later, Ralph retired after breaking in two Hall of Famers (Jack Morris and Alan Trammell) and one (Lou Whitaker) who SHOULD be in the Hall of Fame. Ralph was a brave WWII hero and a heckuva manager.
I didn't know about his war record......much respect to him
Interesting. There were two former Yankees in the '60's who were military veterans and managed WS winners: Houk with the Yanks and Hank Baur with the Orioles
He managed the Red Sox in the early eighties.
I am so hooked on these wonderful episodes; especially loved this one! I’d have liked to know the endearing, witty & marvelous panelists too/ Dorothy was adorable with the lady who developed the back scratcher for cows, Arlene so pretty too & charming, as they all were. Such a refreshing contrast compared to most of today’s programs. ☺️👏🏻🐄😉
Yes, and also refreshing contrast to most of the programs of the 1950s and 60s
@@igkoigko9950- Was it a man named Gil Fates who developed What's My Line?
@@shirleyrombough8173 Yes. That’s what my weak memory and strong google skills says. Speaking of weak memory “Rombough,” more likely spelled Rumbough,” reminds me of a colleague at INS / DOJ in Virginia. Any relation?
I just love Dorothy's laugh!
I like Dorothy's hair style in this episode. It is very becoming on her, unlike some of the others she'd been sporting in previous weeks.
She looks beautiful in this episode.
@@m.e.d.7997 Beauty is subjective, but if you worked for a talent agency and were tasked to recruit a “beautiful “ woman and returned with Dorothy, be thankful for unemployment insurance. On her best day, Dorothy is plain. On the other hand, Arlene.
Wow! Janet Leigh picked the right dress to wear that night
Did anyone notice that she literally limped off the stage?
Arlene looks beautiful here. Dorothy too.
Yes, they do. And Janet Leigh and the bass player, as well. Glad I tuned in! 😍
Arlene, Janet, bass player beautiful, but Dorothy’s many good qualities do not include beauty
@@igkoigko9950 beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, let alone Dorothy was in a spring chicken.
@@gregengel1616 You said "Dorothy was in a spring chicken." ? :) anyway, I agree with you and many others, Dorothy was lovely! Maybe not the regular, "same-old" same appearance but extremely appealing. Not to mention the fact of her high intelligence, professional accomplishments and humour.
@@aileen694 Oops, I should really have my reading glasses on when I send these. Thank you for pointing out that she was no spring chicken. With everything else she had going for her, she was obviously beautiful in both of our eyes.
This episode was broadcast 10 days after the Yankees lost the 1960 World Series to the Pittsburgh Pirates in 7 games. It was the last game in which Casey Stengel managed the Yankees. The Yankees were a much better team and scored many more runs, but lost the World Series in Game 7. Mickey Mantle said several times that it was the most painful loss of his career. Ralph Houk replaced Casey Stengel and won the World Series in 1961 and 1962.
Dorothy. Such a smart lady
Dorothy and Arlene were magic on this show.
I can see where Jamie Lee Curtis gets some of her facial expressions!
13.47 - Arlene: "What were you thinking of, a bull? lol The whole situation is so funny ;-)
Katarzyna Kopeć Reminds me of Dorothy's "leading man" comment ("the fellow who gets the girl in the end") that got Sal Mineo and everyone else laughing on the June 30, 1957 episode. In that case, a subtle matter of emphasis in phrasing made it seem that Dorothy was suggesting something bawdier than she would have intended.
@@hetmanjz Thanks for the tip, albeit 6 years ago. Will make a point of finding that one!
Janet Leigh is so bloody talented and beautiful......I've read the biographies and it never ceases to amaze me that Tony Curtis could treat this "Babe" so shabilly. If you've never seen "Holiday Affair" with Janet and Robert Mitchum - shes never been More gorgeous....Such a beautiful Actress , right up there with Marilyn...
Psycho had just come out and the World hadn't realized it was a 'game-changer'. in the world of pure cinema.
Not mentioning the movie too much at all except for Martin.
Wasn't she married to Tony Curtis?
I just love this program.
One of the differences between today’s so-called celebrities and Yesterday’s true celebrities is that many of the celebrities of yesteryear served in the military, many of them in dangerous and historic battles.
What a woman. Pure vixen.
Does it touch the cow? I had the funniest thought. What were you thinking of, a bull? One of the best banters between Arlene and Dorothy 😂
We've used the cow scratcher for years, put the fly powder on it and they love it!
WOW! Janet Leigh was definitely a babe. I'm in love! again
Of course she was best known for the shower/chop-chop scene in Psycho(1960)
Filming that scene convinced her to NEVER take another shower and she didn't!!!
I am still not convinced that Dorothy used any substances. Her success as a panelist belies any impairment.
Janet Leigh was so adorable and beautiful. I would have hugged the hell out of her if I lived back then.
Ralph Houk was a patriot and an excellent manager. His criticism was that anybody could win with Mantle, Maris. Ford, Stafford, Howard, Berra, Boyer, Richarson, Kubek on your team but dealing with all those stars is not easy. Janet Leigh is great. Thanks for the video.
This aired October 23, 1960. Casey Stengel had just been fired from the Yankees, after more than a decade of service.
At the time, Leigh was married to actor Tony Curtis, a marriage that would end in divorce two years later. Leigh remarried to businessman Robert Brandt, a union that lasted until her death in 2004.
So funny how the audience groans at Bennett's puns
Those 'cow scratchers' really caught on, too.
It's plain where Jamie Lee got the body.
Janet Leigh was a babe
Agree great singing voice and actress too.
Big Time, very sexy.
Indeed!
Natural Beauty.
J. Leigh is a dream here ✨️
Janet Leigh is scorching.
Thanks for sharing the episode with us.
"Psycho Lady".. unforgettable witty woman, somewhat connected with the Rat Pack folks, as far as I remember, correct me if I am wrong, please.
Sure I am, as usual... never mind.
Cheers, guys !
She was friends with Frank. Tony was suppose to do the Manchurian Candidate but because of his affair he lost the role to Lawrence Harvey.
What affair?
@@YOGI-yl4ff Laurence Harvey was much better at sinister, strange, odd, creepy, unforgettable.
Mona Neves is a serious contestant for best looking bass player ever.
Jamie Lee Curtis has Janet Leigh's eyes.
She better! Jamie is Janet Leigh's daughter via Tony Curtis.
@@JROrg2009 Janet Leigh is so much better looking than Jamie Lee Curtis. Although Jamie Lee Curtis was attractive and with a great figure.
And Tony's smile.
I think Jaime Lee is a blend of both parents and really doesn’t favor one over the other.
Were they removable?
What always got me is that if the panel doesn't figure out what the guest does, John won't let the contestant describe what they
do, he always has to do if for them, and he is not always right.
When Eamon hosted, he let the contestants describe their own lines. It was a refreshing change.
He loved to talk 😊
It would seem that making a gadget for animals will get you on the show
one of the cutest snd funniest women of all time 🥰🥰
Wish we have a time machine----- whats my line is so enjoyable today oct 2021- as yesterday---- loved every one of the panel----R-I-P----THANKS
Absolutely stunning
My mother taught in a private school founded by the granddaughter of Wm. Jennings Bryan, who raised her, Gateway School's Helen Bryan Touyarot. I never got to ask her about the Scopes trial.
Janet Leigh's figure looks like Jessica Rabbit!!
And Jessica Rabbit was just drawn that way!
Apparently without figure aids at this age, Janet Leigh certainly seems to have been blessed with a truly hourglass figure. Supposedly they were 37-23-35 with a C cup bra.
Very nice.
Arlene looks the best as a blond
They sure hate those blindfolds.
Steven Chappell they only groaned when the blindfolds went on for the first guest. They don't seem to mind them at the end.
I don't think they hate them all. I think they just that to get a reaction from the audience (like some of US would do. Pretend we hated something just to get a reaction)
IMO Janet had a look ahead of her time here.
In the best possible manner I would like to note that Mrs. Morrison had the appearance, bearing and demeanor of someone who attended preparatory school in New England. She comported herself in a fashion that seemed to me the epitome of what one would hope to achieve when sending one's child to that sort of private school.
For a period of time when the Game Show Network Showed What's My Line, this episode was probably the most broadcasted WML episode.
Second game: Dorothy, Arlene and Bennett played the game straight, so when they did funny things it was a bonanza. All the laughter involving Dorothy was a bonanza, but it has a serious side, especially at 17:00 when John wonders if she is all right. This and the repeated Dentistry question in this period tend to hint that she was coming off the tracks. Within a few months she was hospitalized for problems compounded by drug abuse.
It was nothing
The repeated questions about dentistry does NOT indicate she was coming off the tracks. It turns out a that a prominent celebrity, I believe Casey Stengel, had studied dentistry before their current career. Asking about dentistry was about as irrelevant as asking them if they sang or danced.
@@JLionelWaller You are correct, and thank you for correcting the original post.
She acted a bit drunk in this episode.
Mrs. Morrison smiles just like my Grandmother did. 💕
I hope ol’ Perkins ain’t a lurking anywhere … or his Mommy.
Mrs. Morrison and John Daly have made it awfully hard to search for the Morrison family, by dint of signing in as Boo, and never using her husband's name. I do, however, have reasonable supposition to think she was Elizabeth, married to Samuel (who died in 1973 and was a cattleman & in the cattleman's various associations.). If it is her, she was about 55 here, which fits. Died in 1989.
juliansinger - Weird isn't it that this 55 year old looks about 75 these days? Everyone assumed that by 40 one was "finished" with looking desirable. Not anymore, thank heaven.
juliansinger - Boo, as in Boo Radley? I guess my references are based on the wonderful book and movie To Kill a Mockingbird. And so it will be if anyone uses any name so associated.
Dorothy has loosened up considerable since the beginning of the show. she is always laughing vs in the 60s she was sooo serious.
Correction, She was serious in the '50s
Purple Capricorn -- It seems to me that Dorothy has loosened up in the 1960's due to having a few wee drinkies before going on the air. People under the influence tend to laugh more than when they're not.
@ToddSF 94109 That's true, but I think there was also more to it than that. After being on the panel for so many years, I think she eventually began to feel so comfortable and at home there that she was able to allow herself to loosen up a bit.
Buzzed
6:49....Casey Stengel...the man Ralph Houk replaced as N.Y.Yankee manager...would become the first manager of the N.Y.Mets....who played their first 2 seasons at the Polo Grounds...before Shea Stadium opened
Some how Bennett cerf rubs me the wrong way
Quite understandable. He could be remarkably irritating at times.
Had a chance to take a shower with Janet. Actually same city and it was raining.
Hope you are not in the mood of playing Norman Bates of Psycho. Jokes apart you are lucky.
Ms. Neves played in the Lenox School of Jazz Concert as a member of the Gunther Schuller Ensemble, 1958.
In that concert, bandleader Herb Pomeroy anticipated one of my better puns (Who was the Lone Ranger's favorite jazz musician? Remember, his HORSE was named Silver.) Pomeroy's entry was called "LONE RANGER AND THE GREAT HORACE SILVER.": Silver was not part of the group.
I've come in second before, when I thought of "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think." (one of my hetter efforts), only to discover that Dorothy Parker beat me to it. Great minds ...
That was a "viol" pun. I should have seen it coming. When it came to punsters, Cerf could "stand-up" to the bassed of them!
18:50 Bennett already knew who it was, she has an unmistakable voice.
Janet did not have to sing some answers, or use a real voice. Martin must have recognized the voice ... guessed Janet too soon.
The cow part was hilarious 😂
I've Always found it Interesting (Definitely Subjective) the.. Seeming Hurried Propensity with which Martin Gabel (always?) removed his mask
That was the year Psycho came out.
Wonder how many people know who Ralph Houk was!!??
Does anybody know if the intros at the beginning were off the cuff, or were they written by the program staff? Also were the outfits the ladies were their own or were they provided by the program? Also when Daly states to Houk I hope you when as many pennants as Stengel . We know the answer is no . Mr Stengel won more pennants any other Yankee manager as of 2019.
Two years later… Some of the more routine intros (e.g. what the next panelist is currently starring in) might have been written by staff, or simply read from a fact sheet. Bennett’s certainly appear to be his own, and many of the intros come across to me as being genuine expressions by the other panelists.
A bass viol is a very diffferent thing from a bass.
One is a fish.
… and a defunct U.K. brewery.
@@LANCSKIDThe brewery is defunct, but it seems you can still get the beer, even on draught.
Sneaky Martin was staring down Janet's dress, lol.
How can one resist? I was looking when she came in and sat down next to John!
When the vieitor used to go before the panel, had pne of the panelists asked to examine Ms. Neves' hands, might they have detected a clue? When my first violin teacher was gigging on stand-up, and they tried to print him, the fingers of his left hand were so callused that they wouldn't take!
Martin nailed it.."The Major" Ralph Houk!!
Dorothy is sharp as a tack.
As a big fan of the team that had just won the 1960 World Series, hearing Dorothy's question about Ralph Houk being from Pittsburgh makes me wish there could have been a Pirate on as a guest around the time the Series was being played!
There should have been. BUT, this show's from NY. Not Pittsburgh. Ralph was from Kansas.
13:44 - Arlene and Dorothy just being women 😘
Arlene Francis was my crush.
She was a fun person
She was a darned good actress and lovely. She is so sexy here but you can see her in films with so many different "looks", especially with long dark natural hair when she was younger: so soft looking. - Anyway, for some reason, some actresses really "mug" on this show. She did every facial expression from A to Z. Well, maybe I'm jealous. ..No, I'm sure any sane lady would be.
Janet Leigh: Gorgeous and charming...Martin Gabel and Bennet Cerf: two major jackoffs
Is the Jackoff any relation to the Jackass?
By this point in watching the series, I've read several observations in the comments of different episodes about Dorothy's possible impairment. I must say I've always expected not to be able to tell, in that if I looked for it, I'd no doubt find it. Thus, I couldn't know if it were real or if it were my imagination. Someone with more experience or greater discernment than I would be able to tell, no doubt, but I wouldn't. However, this episode it really did seem to be clearly demonstrated: Dorothy's slurred speech (particularly the way she pronounces "Mrs. Morrison" at 10:06 and 13:04), her fumbling for words, her swaying (or rocking) from side to side in closeup, John Daly's asking her at 17:01, "Dorothy, you feeling well?", her apparently confused behavior when questioning Janet Leigh, and her seeming to have trouble taking her blindfold off (20:03). For the first time, I'm pretty much convinced.
+Robert Melson
I have also been reading the comments, wondering how much the observations are based on knowing things in hindsight. What occurred to me is that it never reached a level where Goodson/Todman felt that they had to fire her. In fact, it would appear that neither Fates in his book or Cerf in his interviews ever mentions that it was even threatened.
One or two seasons prior to this, she inexplicably began to giggle a lot and I wondered if she was feeling no pain. However, she seemed as sharp as ever, following trains of thought and effectively playing the game. We'll see how this progresses as I continue to watch these all in chronological order. I adore Dorothy and I mourn her, though she died when I was 6.
You have given me a heads up, and I agree. Her death was a tragedy.
ARLENE FRANCIS WAS HOT
Listening to 1960's people talking about small world in 2021!!
Mona Neves was very attractive as was Dorothy and Arlene. Mrs. Morrsion was great.
Agreed for 2/3. Even 3/4 were you to include Janet. But Dorothy’s attractiveness is clearly not physical.
Miss Neves is gorgeous.
YES !!
Scorchio!
Lord...Janet Leigh's waist😦
Iwas looking for this comment. Wow it was so cinched and tiny!
Are you appearing...pictures... Broadway...show business? Early guess.☹️
Mona Neves. What can you say, except thank you God. Thank you.
RALPH HOUK (NEW MANAGER OF N.Y. YANKEES)
MAKES BACK SCRATCHERS FOR COWS
PROFESSIONAL BASS PLAYER
All that booze was making Dorothy bloated and puffy.
John Daly: Let’s begin with Miss Kilgallen
Dorothy Kilgallen: You are self-employed and provide a service?
Mystery Guest: Yes
Dorothy Kilgallen: Are you Jesus of Nazareth?
Mystery Guest: Yes!
RE: the first contestant. Amazingly literate program. Houk, however, stayed with the Yankees for only a coupla three years.
I know him best as the Red Sox's manager, since his teams were when I first started paying attention. I only found out he'd been a Yankees stalwart via Ball Four. (I was all betrayed.)
+soulierinvestments
Ralph Houk managed the Yankees initially from 1961-63, winning the AL pennant all three years. In his first two years, he also won the World Series. The Yankees were swept by the Dodgers in 1963 (a glorious Series from my point of view).
Houk didn't leave the Yankees at that point. He became their General Manager and Yogi Berra managed the team into the World Series against the Cardinals. Both teams looked like they were not going to win the pennant, so the Yankees had made the decision to fire Berra after one season and the Cardinals had decided to fire Johnny Keane. The Yankees then hired Keane to manage for 1965 and that was when they began an 11 season stretch without winning any pennants. Keane was fired after 22 games of the 1966 season with the Yankees in last place. Houk returned to the dugout as team manager and stepped down as General Manager.
Although the team responded to Houk and played better, they had started so poorly that they couldn't get out of the cellar. Houk managed the Yankees through the 1973 season and the best finish he attained was 2nd place in the East Division in 1970. Then he managed the Tigers from 1974 to 1978 and the Red Sox from 1981 to 1984. His best finish during those seasons was 3rd in the East.
George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees in 1973 and all rational thought was lost after that. The managers cycled through, players came and went, and at one point their best pitcher was a reliever who liked to sit on chocolate cakes. (Or at least he claimed he liked to sit on chocolate cakes).
The Red Sox were perennial losers until 2003, when they broke the curse. Not even Ralph Houk could help them.
And that's when the Yankees were known as the Bronx Zoo. As Graig Nettles said, as a child he had two aspirations: to play major league baseball and to join the circus. When he was traded to the Yankees, he fulfilled both. But he also played some amazing defense at third base against the Dodgers in the World Series. They hit some rockets in his direction but couldn't get them past him.
@@loissimmons6558 Yes, Nettles was an amazing 3rd baseman. Also, a good hitter.
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Bennett was way off bass with his final remark to John Daly.
Lois Simmons - Very good. Love the pun. Thanks. See the word play is catching.
The tenor of his remark was certainly clear.
It was nothing to fret about…
Was his instrument flat?
Or did you miss the base?
Gavel was right. Hitchcock, instead of salary, took a portion of profits from Psycho, and could have easily retired on that deal then and there.
Message to uploader..Please TURN THE VOLUMN UP ! ?
Funny that Mr. Daily would make the comment I have always made. He never understood and neither did I on why did they get upset when the first thing on the show is to blindfold themselves.
Noticed when the blindfolds come off they wipe their eyes. Probably hot under there, what with the stage and TV lights, or maybe their fake eyelashes got smooshed. IMO
Also, messy hair?
As opposed to Boo Radley. (Sorry)
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Dorothy is slurring her words ...
No she's not.
Actually later in the year, She is hospitalized and off the show for several weeks for treatment of a substance abuse disorder.
She had problems with alcohol and pills and that’s why she’s goofy
I wondered for the previous season or two if she was getting a little loopy, but she always follows trains of thought and plays the game well. If she has a problem, she's still coping. For now.
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Something that I've noticed is when actresses walk to shake hands with the panel, they walk in a very graceful way, as if they have practiced, compared to the women who are ordinary on the show.
They didn't know in 1960 that Psycho would be be a movie that any teenager in 2019 would have heard of unlike this wonderful game show. The future for all of us is a dark and foggy thing. If we could see 2079 it might be more than we could handle.
Karl Schwinbarger - I agree - Who knows what the world will be like, if it even survives. It is scary.
@Karl Schwinbarger.
In re your Psycho comment:
That, plus the fact that most teenager/young adults I have asked, think that the original is much better than the remake.
Then impact of that one movie is phenomenal.
Not vegetarians. Yes, cowbells 😂
Oh wonderful .another episode of Cheaters row..aka..celebrity what's my line
Where the questioning ‘goes round clockwise’ … ie, in a straight line.
Janet Leigh - the reason I hated Tony Curtis. Here, she does not do enough to disguise her real voice. Easy pickings.
Jamie Lee Curtis is the clone of her mother.!
No, not at all. Jamie has a masculine face. The sister is prettier. Kelly.
Not really. I would describe Janet as attractive and Jamie as average at best.
Janet Leigh 😍😍
Sadly she didn't age well because of an eating disorder and heavy smoking. 😞
Never knew about the eating disorder. Agree The beautiful Janet did not age well. She dies in 2004. At that time she was suffering from a rare skin disorder as well.
@@m.e.d.7997 If I remember correctly Jamie Lee mentioned something about it in a magazine interview. Yes,I believe it was vasculitis. I've heard it is a very painful condition.
She was also an alcoholic and abused prescription drugs plus dealing with Tony before and after the divorce.
Her and Jamie both have dry, old skin. Didn’t know she smoked but most did
The body's very forgiving when young. If you're still smoking and abusing substances at about age 45, the damage becomes permanent and potentially lethal. Both my brothers stroked at age 52 and subsequently died from smoking related causes.
Remember when women actually had waists like that?
Mine still do.