@erikwens, I've used a hammer quite a lot in my life; in fact, I meant to mention the hammer in the video. That old hammer is a prized possession; it was my dad's hammer that he used for many decades. It was always there handy in the tool box. It's my duty to keep it swinging now and then.
I got one of those from my grandpa. The handle is finally falling apart after years of use and abuse. I'm going to try to find someone to help match the wood and restore it for the generations to come.
@hellstudios, That was railroad track I cut out! Geez, so the train derailment over on that end of my county last year was MY fault? I feel really bad about that now and certainly hope nobody with CSX Railroad watches shooting videos.
Not well enforced, but it’s illegal to take/ have railroad property to include spikes. The full 20’ rails are expensive and would get someone in trouble with the law if they have full rails. Rail road rails are not for sale nor available to anyone but railroads. They can tell what RR company any rail belongs to…
Not sure about the accuracy of Anthony's reply above. But if he's right then I guess I have storage fees coming to me for the 200 yd of tracks that were on my property when I bought it 40 years ago. This is an old Long since abandoned spur line and the tracks have long since been pulled up from their side of it. Is pulled up the rest of it is anybody's guess. And I'm curious about the 2 abandoned box cars that are on there as well. In the meantime they make for great storage with a wooden loading dock attached.
The section of rail track has been used in many shops, farms sheds, barns and by at least one horseshoer I know. Makes a great anvil as you mentioned. Thanks for sharing your decades of experience.
I have a section of rail track that I have used for very rudimentary blacksmith work. I bought it in an antique shop decades ago after taking a blacksmithing course at my local Community College. I has served me well.
@wayneuber, Actually, for plinking and shooting steel, a person generally just uses whatever quality bullet can be found at a decent price. Hard cast bullets are about the best for all-around bullet target shooting and such in a revolver, and with some slower velocity rifle rounds. For most semi-auto pistols, people use jacketed or plated bullets, but not all. The 1911 .45 ACP does very well with cast bullets. I've shot a million of them through 1911s.
Back in the late 70's I cast 250 grain Keith type .429 caliber bullets for my Ruger Super Blackhawk. I would cast them out of pure linotype and what a beautiful bullet it made. I found many of them, spent down range, that would shatter on impact with anything hard. It wasn't unusual at all to find the nose split down the middle with absolutely no obturation of the lead. I ended up getting some very soft plumbers lead and mixed it 50/50 with the linotype which ended up giving me a perfect batch of #2 Lyman alloy. I guess it did, anyway. I guess this because every bullet I cast came out exactly the weight Lyman called out in their Cast Bullet Handbook. God I wish I had all that lead, my molds and sizer! I finally quit casting because I could buy lead bullets so cheap that I didn't figure my time was worth it. Boy was I wrong. Those bullets I case were some of the best bullets I've ever loaded. And, I could control the mix to give me expansion if I desired with the 45 acp or 44magnum. Casing bullets is an art, I sure do miss it.
I miss my bullet casting and cartridge reloading gear too. Preferred mixing wheel weights with linotype for a good blend for hollow point projectiles. Always had feed issues with my AMT Hardballer Long Slide .45 ACP due to the ramp and shape of the magazine feed lips. Should of had a 1911 gun smith specialist work on it rather than trade it off decades ago. Those pistols are collectors items today. Really enjoyed the results I would get with Keith style Semi Wad Cutters from my .38 caliber and .44 caliber revolvers. Ah those were my 'salad' days as a gun enthusiast.
I believe 50/50 is way harder than #2 Lyman alloy. I use 01/20 for my hard cast bullets in 44-40, 45 Colt, and 45-70 with smokeless powder. Pure lead with black powder.
I'm an experienced reloader and shooter, but seeing this demo reminded me of a few things. The visualisation of how hardcast vs regular lead deforms was great. Cheers!
I love how Hickok teaches people with dignity. He remembers what it was like learning these things years ago, and he speaks to us with respect in lieu of speaking AT us as so many people do today. Hickok, your knowledge and your demeanor are incredibly valuable to the generations after you. God bless.
I'm impressed that you were able to consistantly miss your soft cast fingers with that hardcast hamner. Your accuracy isn't only in firearms. My Dad, for the longest time, swaged his own bullets. Then I think he got tired of cleaning lead out of the barrels and he started to buy bullets for reloading.
I have always heard the terms hard and soft cast I guess I never bothered to really learn what they meant, thanks for teaching me something I didn't actually know I wanted to learn.
Lee’s reloading book is quite extensive about pressure and cast bullet hardness. He gives tables to equate velocity with lead hardness. Using his information, you can load proper expanding lead to a desired velocity. He also explains leading barrels and obturation
Well I mean if it’s a fixed handle and you register it as an assault hammer AND you strike it no more than 10 repetitions per purchased hammer then it’s all good. BUT he can’t take it outside the shed without a concealed hammer permit as per the Thor Control legislation.
Dear Mr 45, Yeah everybody knows that your anvil is a piece of railroad track. But it doesn't appear that anyone can tell you how the rail was used. I think this may be what Hickok is really asking. I believe your anvil is a piece of light to medium 90-100 lb/yard rail judging from its size, meant for slower speeds and smaller freight trains in days gone by. Of course I can't be sure unless I knew the actual measurements from the profile. All of the sizes come into play when calculating the strength and purpose of any particular rail. IE the width of the base, the height, the top width, the web, etc... Even though passenger trains are from an era long gone, heavier freight train will be with us for a while to come due to the volume they can handle and the return on fuel. My point? Your anvil truly is rocket science! You ask how do he know this thing? Ordinarily I wouldn't have any of this pointless and useless information. During my career as a machinist I helped invent measuring tools for a certain Rail Road to measure the amount of wear on the tracts to record data of wear vs usage. Never thought I would be posting this to UA-cam. Enjoyed you video and learned a little more about cast bullets today. CS
G Wubllu Hick if your going to cut some more, try cutting across the head all the way, into the neck just a little as your crossing. With it propped up before the cut. Wack it with a sledge hammer. Should snap right off and save your torch fuel and time and energy, or the blades on your cut off saw. Any bars holding the rail together, just cut through one side of each nut, and rap them with the hammer, then knock the bolts out. I'm surprised you couldn't deduce what they were/are. You can see how the tops are mushroomed from use.... Speaking of metallurgy. Iv'e seen some very poor rail with a very short life span were the heads mushroomed very quickly.
I don't know what to say about railroad track. I am not as learned as y'all are. I remember my dad used one for an anvil for years as I was growing up and I think I still have it. But at one time Some of the grandkids had toted it off and it was missing for quite some time. I had picked up two or three pieces along the way and brought a couple to my dad and ask him which one he wanted and he took a smaller one. By the way one was a lot taller and wider than the other. I had no idea what the deal was on the two sizes, I assumed the smaller one would have been for a Spur Line but I couldn't figure out how if it was you would jump down a few inches going into the yard. But now this is just an old man telling me this, what he said was that the larger one was off of a Frisco Railroad and the smaller one was off of a southern. Like I say my dad was about 65 or 70 years old when he told me that and that's been many years ago. But maybe y'all can enlighten me as to whether or not that is right. Thank you have a good day.
I'm using the anvil, complete with horn, my Grandpa Jones, a Master Machinist, made from a piece of 90# rail. He even made a J in the web of the rail. He worked almost 10 years for railroad, first for Santa Fe in Gallup, NM then D&RG in Chama, NM. His personal lathe is still in the round house in Chama. He left there to work in the mines around Silverton, CO as machinist.
Thank you, Thank you, and Thank you for this video. You have answered 99.9% of my questions about hard and soft lead bullets. I am a new shooter and never really understood the different in its use, now I do.
He knows exactly what it is. He is so kind to give us the chance to add something positive. He is a good teacher. Remember the vid about the 'magazine'.
Just as a side note, manufactures use the element antimony to make lead hard. Hard lead is generally about 3-6% antimony. Thanks for the great info Hickok!
@MockEmpire, Yes, he's right, and they actually use a .45-70 case for that. A friend of mine who worked for the railroad brought me an old box of them one time.
@ZZRgirl11, The recoil of a revolver can literally "pull" the bullets out of the case of the ones left in the chamber. Think about the physics of the force. In fact, a famous story / event last year about a guy who barely escaped getting killed by a Big Brown Bear in Alaska detailed how that happened to HIM. His .454 Casull locked up on him after two or three shots. A heavy cast bullet came loose and blocked the cylinder from turning. Fortunately, one of his shots hit the bear.
My Ruger LCR 9mm jumped the crimp when I was firing it with one-hand with my weak hand. I love the Ruger LCRs but I only carry 2 Ruger LCR 38s & one Ruger LCR 357. I use the 9mm for range work only just to be on the safe side. You don't get a second chance when you are fighting for your life.
I've read that's especially likely with a revolver chambered for auto rounds like a 9mm. They don't crimp them as aggressively as revolver rounds, since there's nothing pulling on the case in an auto. It happening with a revolver round like .454 Casull is really bad luck.
Flat hardcast lead with a small percentage of tin added has a incredible effect on large game.it really hits hard and puts alot of damage and penetration on big game.excellent on pistol hunting They make muzzle loader sabots with hardcast and those bullets have no bearings. Its flat nosed and smooth down the sides.penetration is awesome. It hits a hard bone and the bone is shattered and the bullet keeps going
This is a very information rich explanation of "hard cast" in one of its primary roles. Oh yes and they reduce leading of the barrel as well. Thanks to the producer of this video.
I realize I’m about 7 years late coming to this conversation, but part of the reason for using hard cast bullets is barrel fouling. If you are shooting subsonic ammo, pure lead is fine. But may require a bit more scrubbing to remove all lead from the barrel. But when you get into faster shooting guns, pure lead will melt, and leave lots of lead in the barrel, making cleaning more difficult. Adding tin and antimony to lead makes it harder, so they can move faster and not leave as much fouling in the barrel. Or so I’ve read in the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook.
I’ve been watching you for at least a decade but I’m currently at SDI in their associates program and I was happy to find this link attached to an assignment for Basic Ballistics.
@MrFaTaL1996, 300 Blackout round. Forgot to show it, but the recovered bullet lying next to the 300 Blackout round is a 220 grain Blackout round recovered. I meant to show it, because you rarely find center-fire, jacketed rifle bullets that are not totally destroyed. This one is subsonic, so it survived.
The first time I water quenched lead bullets for hardness, I used an 8lb sledge from 12" (for ~8 foot pounds or so) to see the difference. The air cooled were bending and deformed half way down. The water quenched (hardened) ones would only deform the top 1/4" of the bullet. That's a dramatic difference. Glad you could give folks a visual representation of lead hardness. I pour lead bullets so, it's everyday stuff. But, thanks for showing this.
Great video! I didn't see in the comments that that piece or rail is a worn piece of used rail. You can tell by the ridge on the side of the top or it. That ridge would form on the inner side of the rail from heavy use, the many wheels passing over the rail deforms it the same way that hammer deforms the bullets into a mushroom. I'm catching up on the older videos on this channel, I think they are very well made and provide information that is explained in a way to be easy to understand.
The anvil is a eight to nine inch piece of rail, from a rail track. The holes are for bolts, two four holed angle bars are used with four bolts to join the rail. High carbon is standard for rail, manganese is in the frogs. Rail road track- is the term for the rail, ties, plates, spikes ,bolts, bars, anchors, ballast, all joined together to facilitate the movement of a train.Comments are like saying if I cut one inch off my rifles barrel and show it to you, then refer to the one inch piece as a rifle.
@andrewziegler206, Yes. Now, a good fmj bullet might do okay, too, depending on what size the dangerous game is and the specific bullet. It can get complicated, and I'm sure some hunters who know more about it will chime in.
Nice hammer grouping, looks like most were in the A zone. Too funny, you just knew they would put the slow-mo of it at the end. Always great vids hickok, please never stop. Cheers from Cananda
7 people thought these were cartridges with primer and gun powder. I'm not sure how people can not like something that is just plain informative.... Great series of vids for "basics" keep up the good work.
@TheMadMedek, The hardened steel shows no impact at all. Mild still might show a little dent. We have a video on that, too, we'll be posting soon. I'm trying to become the Professor of all things Lead and get a job teaching in the science department at Harvard. :-)
@Ionracas85, Yes, but perhaps that's not all bad. Just think about it; that person who hammers on a live cartridge is maybe less likely to meet your daughter or you, or me on the highway and cross the center line because they don't understand why some idiot painted two silly yellow lines right in the middle of the road. :-)
A real Question/comment about Hard Cast bullets.... (by now everyone know that's a piece of RR track. Hickok knew it all along- I, unlike others, have a great appreciation for his (extremely dry) sense of humor) Here's the question. Are Hard Cast bullets any less safe than other bullets when shooting STEEL? Your video emphasizes how the bullet is barely deformed on impact. I never thought twice about shooting hard cast at steel until I watched this video. Now I wonder if that bullet remains intact.... is there more danger of 'full weight' ricochet (vs typical fragmentation)?
I really like these educational/informative videos, sometimes its a nice alternative to shooting and review videos. Thanks for the reminder that life is good!
The best gun and shooting videos going. I really like your no nonsense gun views, a lot of gun people attach themselves to one type of firearm and then trash all others.
While securing a pallet with wood blocking, I missed the metal nail and hit the fingernail on my left hand ring finger. I was lucky enough to get the ring off before the finger more than doubled in size. 2 weeks later the tip is down to double it's normal size, the nail is 1/3 black and growing longer, and the purple color has faded. The bone at the tip was broken and it will take a couple months before I can fully use my left hand. PLIARS, VICEGRIPS------USE SOMETHING OTHER THAN YOUR FINGERS!
your experience brings to mind the old saying " Many conservatives are former liberals... who got mugged'' a bad experience can change ones perspective in life events.
Hickok, I'll level with you. I am kind of a cheapskate, I don't like spending a while lot of money on those fancy jacketed bullets, but I found that a $20 dollar Lee 140 grain bullet mold has paid for itself in hard cast .38 bullets. I'm getting a .30-30 Marlin from my uncle next weekend for some work, and you can bet I won't be spending a dime on pre-made jacketed ammo. I shoot hard cast bullets, they are my favorite and have the most bestest killing power! :)
Double tap has 200grain FMJ that's only 25fps less then the cast. Wouldn't this be better for stock barrel? Also what's better for auto glass and car doors, fmj or cast? In case aukmeid comes to murder people with vehicle.
When I handloaded, back in the '70s, I wanted to cast lead, but I needed the tin and antimony you mentioned. At one point, I thought of continuing with the purchased "lead" bullets I was handloading, but to melt some down in order to cast them as I'd like them to be. An example would be a 200 grain bullet for .38 Special, just to experiment. I was accepted to grad school, so between work and grad school, the time wasn't there. If I could only turn back the clock! :)
Oh by the way... There weren't any train wrecks in your neck of the woods after you acquired this anvil of yours were there? With so much of it just laying around....CS
Railway RAIL is designated partially by it's weight every 3 foot length. example: if a 3 foot length is 70 pounds it is 70 pound rail. there are lighter weights too. most common nowadays in mainline rail is 124 pond and 136 pound. your piece looks like 100 pound, which was the standard on many North American railways from the 1960's until the late 1980's.The most common rail used in steam days was 70 and 85 pound. i always enjoy your videos. Thanks.
Thank you! I learned a lot. Helping to sell my Dads inventory since his passing and yes I have my PAL...I'm learning the language and value)! Much appreciated!!!
I see alot of right answers ( rail road track ) but interestingly enough why is it so hard? Train wheels are very hot from friction and obviously they put alot of weight on wheels, now imagine whole trains going over rail for years. It's basically been forged.
Great lesson Hickok! thanks for the demonstration. That is section of train track your hammering on by the way. Those holes are at the end of each section of track are for the joint bar that spans two sections of rail. keep these videos coming!
Appreciate the very informative lesson. Man that hammer is a beauty! looks like a Hickory handled claw. I have had one like that for 45 years, had 4 new handles and 3 heads.
Thanks Hickok45 ! I just did a youtube search of whether hard cast bullets expand - now I know ! Bought my first bigger bore rifle a while back H&R 444marlin , looks like the heavy jacketed bullets would expand and hit harder on deer and pigs . Liked .
And for extremely fast loads I use a gas check which is a cooper base installed on the bottom of the bullet to seal off the hot gases preventing the lead from melting during the ignition and traveling down the barrel. Adding tin, antimony and a copper gas check to your cast bullets is easy and inexpensive process for the hand loader.
Could not tell you how many hard cast 200grSWC I have shot or loaded, they are a great bullet, little to no leading. With todays technology of plating with copper and poly coating I have not used them as much, but in 45-70 and 45 colt they are still the mainstay! Great video as always, glad you did not hit your finger! :) Keep the great vids coming!
I'm just getting into casting and hand loading and I still wasn't sure about what "hard cast" meant. Thanks for enlightening me. Keep up the good work hickock45!
I could be wrong but I think some "A" frame bullets have hard cast lead. Soft up front and hard in the back. Soft up front mushrooms out and the hard that is in the back keeps driving it through. Like I said I could be wrong . I like you video Mr Hickcock 45
Your anvil is railway 🚃 track. Good stuff. When they tore up the tracks around here I retrieved many plates that held the line. Makes for great steel plate shooting. Nothing will penetrate it that I know of.
Hickock 45: Your anvil is a piece of rail from a railroad. We had a few on the farm. They work pretty good. We also used a few of those to weigh down our 14' implement disc for the field. They are heavy!
Great video good info one of the other things about cast bullets is most are a flat nose which creates a vary large shock wave when it hits enters something.
Good video...learned something new! I bought these hard cast lead bullets for .45 ACP thinking they were cheap for use in the Para-Ordnance P14-45 here, but didn't know of their quality. I'm not their spokesman or paid by them, but Oregon Trail makes some awesome laser-cast hard bullets that use Silver, in many sizes, that are great for reloading loads for defensive purposes. Thanks for having this video here Hickok45!
For those with an interest: The material for the hard cast bullets is not pure lead, but rather an alloy. Most bullets use lead with a small amount of tin in it (tenths of a %). The softer cast bullets use lead with a bit more tin in them. The most popular alloy for cast bullets is known as linotype, which is a lead / antimony / tin alloy. Linotypes can even be heat treated to produce even higher hardness. A typical commercial linotype might be 4% tin, 12% antimony and 84% lead.
Man I thought you were going to hit a finger there for a second! Good video! I didn't realize that the hard cast lead bullets were that much harder than the jacketed ones! I've been reloading hard cast lead in .45 acp for a long time now because it's about half the price of jacketed and works just as good the only problem is the lube gunks up my S&W 1911's extractor!
Points for the railroad rail anvil, I made one myself! On the hard/soft lead issue, a buddy loaded soft lead round nose for his 1911, he regretted it, for all the lead fouling those bullets left in his 1911 .45, it turned it into a smoothbore! My understanding is that any bullet fired through rifling by smokeless powder needs either a jacket or must be hard cast, or such regrets will reoccur.
Hard Cast Bullets are made up of a Lead, Tin, Antimony, Mixture, Is what gives them that not so easy to disform when hitting a solid target or Hunting Game, Using them etc Thanks for sharing As always Hickok, Great info etc.
@walnutz84, Yeah, the results of a bad flinch can be pretty unfortunate whether it's a 250 grain hard cast bullet or whether it's a 7,000 grain hammer head! :-)
@jbrain93, He's always in the vicinity. We've gotten to where we tie him up on the porch if we're doing a shooting video, but otherwise, he's just scouting around and is likely to show up in the background. Who knows where he'll be. :-)
@erikwens, I've used a hammer quite a lot in my life; in fact, I meant to mention the hammer in the video. That old hammer is a prized possession; it was my dad's hammer that he used for many decades. It was always there handy in the tool box. It's my duty to keep it swinging now and then.
I am knowing your channel just now. Amazing. Cheers from Brazil!
Nothing like dads ol tools!!
I got one of those from my grandpa. The handle is finally falling apart after years of use and abuse. I'm going to try to find someone to help match the wood and restore it for the generations to come.
That's a piece of railroad track that you're beating on. They're fairly hard. Most budget blacksmiths start out on one.
Good to see you keep Dad’s hammer swinging . Thanks for the info.
@hellstudios, That was railroad track I cut out! Geez, so the train derailment over on that end of my county last year was MY fault? I feel really bad about that now and certainly hope nobody with CSX Railroad watches shooting videos.
Not well enforced, but it’s illegal to take/ have railroad property to include spikes. The full 20’ rails are expensive and would get someone in trouble with the law if they have full rails. Rail road rails are not for sale nor available to anyone but railroads. They can tell what RR company any rail belongs to…
@@anthonyiocca5683you gonna snitch ?
@@3resFR he looks like hes about to go tell on someone right now -friday
Not sure about the accuracy of Anthony's reply above. But if he's right then I guess I have storage fees coming to me for the 200 yd of tracks that were on my property when I bought it 40 years ago. This is an old Long since abandoned spur line and the tracks have long since been pulled up from their side of it. Is pulled up the rest of it is anybody's guess. And I'm curious about the 2 abandoned box cars that are on there as well. In the meantime they make for great storage with a wooden loading dock attached.
The section of rail track has been used in many shops, farms sheds, barns and by at least one horseshoer I know. Makes a great anvil as you mentioned. Thanks for sharing your decades of experience.
I have a section of rail track that I have used for very rudimentary blacksmith work. I bought it in an antique shop decades ago after taking a blacksmithing course at my local Community College. I has served me well.
@wayneuber, Actually, for plinking and shooting steel, a person generally just uses whatever quality bullet can be found at a decent price. Hard cast bullets are about the best for all-around bullet target shooting and such in a revolver, and with some slower velocity rifle rounds. For most semi-auto pistols, people use jacketed or plated bullets, but not all. The 1911 .45 ACP does very well with cast bullets. I've shot a million of them through 1911s.
Back in the late 70's I cast 250 grain Keith type .429 caliber bullets for my Ruger Super Blackhawk. I would cast them out of pure linotype and what a beautiful bullet it made. I found many of them, spent down range, that would shatter on impact with anything hard. It wasn't unusual at all to find the nose split down the middle with absolutely no obturation of the lead.
I ended up getting some very soft plumbers lead and mixed it 50/50 with the linotype which ended up giving me a perfect batch of #2 Lyman alloy. I guess it did, anyway. I guess this because every bullet I cast came out exactly the weight Lyman called out in their Cast Bullet Handbook. God I wish I had all that lead, my molds and sizer! I finally quit casting because I could buy lead bullets so cheap that I didn't figure my time was worth it. Boy was I wrong. Those bullets I case were some of the best bullets I've ever loaded. And, I could control the mix to give me expansion if I desired with the 45 acp or 44magnum. Casing bullets is an art, I sure do miss it.
I miss my bullet casting and cartridge reloading gear too. Preferred mixing wheel weights with linotype for a good blend for hollow point projectiles. Always had feed issues with my AMT Hardballer Long Slide .45 ACP due to the ramp and shape of the magazine feed lips. Should of had a 1911 gun smith specialist work on it rather than trade it off decades ago. Those pistols are collectors items today. Really enjoyed the results I would get with Keith style Semi Wad Cutters from my .38 caliber and .44 caliber revolvers. Ah those were my 'salad' days as a gun enthusiast.
I’m learning to cast now, thanks to the panic buying as of late. It’s a hobby all it’s own. Lot of fun.
Any tips or key notes to remember when casting 10mm an .357? Just now getting into casting since I now reload. Might as well cast too
I believe 50/50 is way harder than #2 Lyman alloy. I use 01/20 for my hard cast bullets in 44-40, 45 Colt, and 45-70 with smokeless powder. Pure lead with black powder.
Even as a long time shooter and reloader I still find myself learning a great deal from your videos. Thanks Hickok!
I'm an experienced reloader and shooter, but seeing this demo reminded me of a few things. The visualisation of how hardcast vs regular lead deforms was great. Cheers!
I love how Hickok teaches people with dignity. He remembers what it was like learning these things years ago, and he speaks to us with respect in lieu of speaking AT us as so many people do today. Hickok, your knowledge and your demeanor are incredibly valuable to the generations after you. God bless.
As someone relatively new to firearms, I find this very helpful. Thanks for posting.
@ICAUSELOTSOFANGER, Yeah, spent some time in Folsom Prison for it, too. Wasn't all that bad, though; I got a free Johnny Cash concert out of it. :-)
Hahahahaha ... lololol
Now he "shoots the line" ... hickhoks secret !
lmao, great one hickok
I'm impressed that you were able to consistantly miss your soft cast fingers with that hardcast hamner. Your accuracy isn't only in firearms. My Dad, for the longest time, swaged his own bullets. Then I think he got tired of cleaning lead out of the barrels and he started to buy bullets for reloading.
@ExtremeMorphs, I used to cast some of my own bullets. Wheel weights make pretty good bullets. They are harder to find now, though, at least for free.
good old days ...
I like that Anvil . I see that around here on occasion as well , maybe I will harvest a chunk for myself
I have always heard the terms hard and soft cast I guess I never bothered to really learn what they meant, thanks for teaching me something I didn't actually know I wanted to learn.
That is an I beam for the starship enterprize. It is made out of unobtainium... be careful with that chunk of future metal...
61 people who disliked this video were killed in a train derailment.
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Lee’s reloading book is quite extensive about pressure and cast bullet hardness. He gives tables to equate velocity with lead hardness. Using his information, you can load proper expanding lead to a desired velocity. He also explains leading barrels and obturation
Do you have a license for that assault hammer hickok45?😱
I don't think he does but I wouldn't advise trying to take it from him
Nor do I looks like he knows how to us it
"Come and take it" he says to whom ever passed what ever law bans hammers
Well I mean if it’s a fixed handle and you register it as an assault hammer AND you strike it no more than 10 repetitions per purchased hammer then it’s all good. BUT he can’t take it outside the shed without a concealed hammer permit as per the Thor Control legislation.
so if you wrap it in a towel would that be a silenced hammer???????
Dear Mr 45, Yeah everybody knows that your anvil is a piece of railroad track. But it doesn't appear that anyone can tell you how the rail was used. I think this may be what Hickok is really asking. I believe your anvil is a piece of light to medium 90-100 lb/yard rail judging from its size, meant for slower speeds and smaller freight trains in days gone by. Of course I can't be sure unless I knew the actual measurements from the profile. All of the sizes come into play when calculating the strength and purpose of any particular rail. IE the width of the base, the height, the top width, the web, etc... Even though passenger trains are from an era long gone, heavier freight train will be with us for a while to come due to the volume they can handle and the return on fuel. My point? Your anvil truly is rocket science! You ask how do he know this thing? Ordinarily I wouldn't have any of this pointless and useless information. During my career as a machinist I helped invent measuring tools for a certain Rail Road to measure the amount of wear on the tracts to record data of wear vs usage. Never thought I would be posting this to UA-cam. Enjoyed you video and learned a little more about cast bullets today. CS
Typically, if it's 100lb track it is 100lb's for every 3 feet.
G Wubllu Hick if your going to cut some more, try cutting across the head all the way, into the neck just a little as your crossing. With it propped up before the cut. Wack it with a sledge hammer. Should snap right off and save your torch fuel and time and energy, or the blades on your cut off saw.
Any bars holding the rail together, just cut through one side of each nut, and rap them with the hammer, then knock the bolts out.
I'm surprised you couldn't deduce what they were/are.
You can see how the tops are mushroomed from use....
Speaking of metallurgy. Iv'e seen some very poor rail with a very short life span were the heads mushroomed very quickly.
I don't know what to say about railroad track. I am not as learned as y'all are. I remember my dad used one for an anvil for years as I was growing up and I think I still have it. But at one time Some of the grandkids had toted it off and it was missing for quite some time. I had picked up two or three pieces along the way and brought a couple to my dad and ask him which one he wanted and he took a smaller one. By the way one was a lot taller and wider than the other. I had no idea what the deal was on the two sizes, I assumed the smaller one would have been for a Spur Line but I couldn't figure out how if it was you would jump down a few inches going into the yard. But now this is just an old man telling me this, what he said was that the larger one was off of a Frisco Railroad and the smaller one was off of a southern. Like I say my dad was about 65 or 70 years old when he told me that and that's been many years ago. But maybe y'all can enlighten me as to whether or not that is right. Thank you have a good day.
I'm using the anvil, complete with horn, my Grandpa Jones, a Master Machinist, made from a piece of 90# rail. He even made a J in the web of the rail. He worked almost 10 years for railroad, first for Santa Fe in Gallup, NM then D&RG in Chama, NM. His personal lathe is still in the round house in Chama. He left there to work in the mines around Silverton, CO as machinist.
Thank you, Thank you, and Thank you for this video. You have answered 99.9% of my questions about hard and soft lead bullets. I am a new shooter and never really understood the different in its use, now I do.
Excuse me, I believe you have my railroad track, you took it off my desk when I was not looking.
I have a piece Great to Have!
He knows exactly what it is. He is so kind to give us the chance to add something positive. He is a good teacher. Remember the vid about the 'magazine'.
Just as a side note, manufactures use the element antimony to make lead hard. Hard lead is generally about 3-6% antimony. Thanks for the great info Hickok!
@MockEmpire, Yes, he's right, and they actually use a .45-70 case for that. A friend of mine who worked for the railroad brought me an old box of them one time.
@ZZRgirl11, The recoil of a revolver can literally "pull" the bullets out of the case of the ones left in the chamber. Think about the physics of the force. In fact, a famous story / event last year about a guy who barely escaped getting killed by a Big Brown Bear in Alaska detailed how that happened to HIM. His .454 Casull locked up on him after two or three shots. A heavy cast bullet came loose and blocked the cylinder from turning. Fortunately, one of his shots hit the bear.
My Ruger LCR 9mm jumped the crimp when I was firing it with one-hand with my weak hand. I love the Ruger LCRs but I only carry 2 Ruger LCR 38s & one Ruger LCR 357. I use the 9mm for range work only just to be on the safe side. You don't get a second chance when you are fighting for your life.
I've read that's especially likely with a revolver chambered for auto rounds like a 9mm. They don't crimp them as aggressively as revolver rounds, since there's nothing pulling on the case in an auto. It happening with a revolver round like .454 Casull is really bad luck.
Sounds like a reload.
That's a railroad rail your banging on. My dad worked for the railroad for 45 years I saw a lot of those
Yep
Flat hardcast lead with a small percentage of tin added has a incredible effect on large game.it really hits hard and puts alot of damage and penetration on big game.excellent on pistol hunting
They make muzzle loader sabots with hardcast and those bullets have no bearings. Its flat nosed and smooth down the sides.penetration is awesome. It hits a hard bone and the bone is shattered and the bullet keeps going
This is a very information rich explanation of "hard cast" in one of its primary roles. Oh yes and they reduce leading of the barrel as well. Thanks to the producer of this video.
I realize I’m about 7 years late coming to this conversation, but part of the reason for using hard cast bullets is barrel fouling. If you are shooting subsonic ammo, pure lead is fine. But may require a bit more scrubbing to remove all lead from the barrel. But when you get into faster shooting guns, pure lead will melt, and leave lots of lead in the barrel, making cleaning more difficult. Adding tin and antimony to lead makes it harder, so they can move faster and not leave as much fouling in the barrel. Or so I’ve read in the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook.
I'm 12 yrs late 😂
I’ve been watching you for at least a decade but I’m currently at SDI in their associates program and I was happy to find this link attached to an assignment for Basic Ballistics.
@Knight-Sgt. Reyes yeah that program is definitely not short on reading and writing that’s for damn sure.
@MrFaTaL1996, 300 Blackout round. Forgot to show it, but the recovered bullet lying next to the 300 Blackout round is a 220 grain Blackout round recovered. I meant to show it, because you rarely find center-fire, jacketed rifle bullets that are not totally destroyed. This one is subsonic, so it survived.
The first time I water quenched lead bullets for hardness, I used an 8lb sledge from 12" (for ~8 foot pounds or so) to see the difference. The air cooled were bending and deformed half way down. The water quenched (hardened) ones would only deform the top 1/4" of the bullet. That's a dramatic difference. Glad you could give folks a visual representation of lead hardness. I pour lead bullets so, it's everyday stuff. But, thanks for showing this.
ping ping ping...
there is just something joyous about the sound of a hammer on an anvil that always brings a smile to my face.
and similarly, lead on steel!
way better than the sound after hitting a thumb
Great video! I didn't see in the comments that that piece or rail is a worn piece of used rail. You can tell by the ridge on the side of the top or it. That ridge would form on the inner side of the rail from heavy use, the many wheels passing over the rail deforms it the same way that hammer deforms the bullets into a mushroom. I'm catching up on the older videos on this channel, I think they are very well made and provide information that is explained in a way to be easy to understand.
Looks like a chunk of railroad track. Thanks for the demo. I always thought hard cast was slightly harder I didn't know it was that hard.
I love your sense of humor hickok. Miles of that stuff just laying around......just cut a chunk out.
Golden.
The anvil is a eight to nine inch piece of rail, from a rail track. The holes are for bolts, two four holed angle bars are used with four bolts to join the rail. High carbon is standard for rail, manganese is in the frogs. Rail road track- is the term for the rail, ties, plates, spikes ,bolts, bars, anchors, ballast, all joined together to facilitate the movement of a train.Comments are like saying if I cut one inch off my rifles barrel and show it to you, then refer to the one inch piece as a rifle.
+Snooks Palmer After all this time, I'm still amazed that people thought I was serious. :-)
+hickok45 lol...the only reason I scrolled down to read the comments was to see how many people actually answered
+Scarce Logic Same here.
+hickok45 gave me a good laugh!
Snooks Palmer they work really well for the purpose. real cheap at your local scrapers
@andrewziegler206, Yes. Now, a good fmj bullet might do okay, too, depending on what size the dangerous game is and the specific bullet. It can get complicated, and I'm sure some hunters who know more about it will chime in.
Nice hammer grouping, looks like most were in the A zone. Too funny, you just knew they would put the slow-mo of it at the end. Always great vids hickok, please never stop. Cheers from Cananda
I learn something new every time I watch Mr. Hickok 45!
Once again you have educated me sir! I'm a subscriber. Keep these videos coming! Thank you.
7 people thought these were cartridges with primer and gun powder.
I'm not sure how people can not like something that is just plain informative....
Great series of vids for "basics" keep up the good work.
Oh dear God some of you are simple. He was JOKING about his "anvil".
+cavediverjc Yeah, at MY age, I don't know railroad track when I see it, or actually own it? :-) Funny.
@TheMadMedek, The hardened steel shows no impact at all. Mild still might show a little dent. We have a video on that, too, we'll be posting soon. I'm trying to become the Professor of all things Lead and get a job teaching in the science department at Harvard. :-)
@Ionracas85, Yes, but perhaps that's not all bad. Just think about it; that person who hammers on a live cartridge is maybe less likely to meet your daughter or you, or me on the highway and cross the center line because they don't understand why some idiot painted two silly yellow lines right in the middle of the road. :-)
love the slow mo at the end! Thanks you Hickok i learned something tonight. i did not know the difference and the difference in use.
7:32 "here ill use my pointer" what a badass
He is right about the metal hardness, because I work at a metal recycling plant. Keep up the good work good video.
A real Question/comment about Hard Cast bullets.... (by now everyone know that's a piece of RR track. Hickok knew it all along- I, unlike others, have a great appreciation for his (extremely dry) sense of humor)
Here's the question. Are Hard Cast bullets any less safe than other bullets when shooting STEEL? Your video emphasizes how the bullet is barely deformed on impact. I never thought twice about shooting hard cast at steel until I watched this video. Now I wonder if that bullet remains intact.... is there more danger of 'full weight' ricochet (vs typical fragmentation)?
I really like these educational/informative videos, sometimes its a nice alternative to shooting and review videos. Thanks for the reminder that life is good!
that's why i like hickok45 channel.... i learn things. that's why. thanks again.
The best gun and shooting videos going. I really like your no nonsense gun views, a lot of gun people attach themselves to one type of firearm and then trash all others.
While securing a pallet with wood blocking, I missed the metal nail and hit the fingernail on my left hand ring finger.
I was lucky enough to get the ring off before the finger more than doubled in size.
2 weeks later the tip is down to double it's normal size, the nail is 1/3 black and growing longer, and the purple color has faded.
The bone at the tip was broken and it will take a couple months before I can fully use my left hand.
PLIARS, VICEGRIPS------USE SOMETHING OTHER THAN YOUR FINGERS!
your experience brings to mind the old saying " Many conservatives are former liberals... who got mugged'' a bad experience can change ones perspective in life events.
Another engineer huh. Real men learn to swing a hammer by 1st grade. My son learned by age 5. I learned at six but I'm not as smart as the lad.
Well all I can say is that must have been a hell of a lick! Because the bone in the end of the finger is rather pliable.
the only video on youtube that is permitted to show slow motion hammering
Hickok, I'll level with you. I am kind of a cheapskate, I don't like spending a while lot of money on those fancy jacketed bullets, but I found that a $20 dollar Lee 140 grain bullet mold has paid for itself in hard cast .38 bullets. I'm getting a .30-30 Marlin from my uncle next weekend for some work, and you can bet I won't be spending a dime on pre-made jacketed ammo. I shoot hard cast bullets, they are my favorite and have the most bestest killing power! :)
Yep, they make great anvils for beginner blacksmiths. Also the base plates they use for rail road tracks are pretty good candidates for targets.
Hollow Point JHP = Hunting Mice //
Full Metal Jacket = Hunting Humans //
Hard Cast = Hunting Elephants //
Depleted Uranium Core = Hunting Dinosaurs //
Kryptonite Bullets = Hunting Superman //
lmao.
Double tap has 200grain FMJ that's only 25fps less then the cast. Wouldn't this be better for stock barrel? Also what's better for auto glass and car doors, fmj or cast? In case aukmeid comes to murder people with vehicle.
Lifter015 hard cast and jacketed will both cut through a car door like butter
When I handloaded, back in the '70s, I wanted to cast lead, but I needed the tin and antimony you mentioned. At one point, I thought of continuing with the purchased "lead" bullets I was handloading, but to melt some down in order to cast them as I'd like them to be. An example would be a 200 grain bullet for .38 Special, just to experiment. I was accepted to grad school, so between work and grad school, the time wasn't there. If I could only turn back the clock! :)
Oh by the way... There weren't any train wrecks in your neck of the woods after you acquired this anvil of yours were there? With so much of it just laying around....CS
Railway RAIL is designated partially by it's weight every 3 foot length. example: if a 3 foot length is 70 pounds it is 70 pound rail. there are lighter weights too. most common nowadays in mainline rail is 124 pond and 136 pound. your piece looks like 100 pound, which was the standard on many North American railways from the 1960's until the late 1980's.The most common rail used in steam days was 70 and 85 pound.
i always enjoy your videos. Thanks.
it smaller than a train track, it looks like tracks for mining.
Thank you! I learned a lot. Helping to sell my Dads inventory since his passing and yes I have my PAL...I'm learning the language and value)! Much appreciated!!!
looks like a railroad track to me.
Man every time you swung the hammer I was like - omg that would hurt if you hit your fingers! Great video!!
I see alot of right answers ( rail road track ) but interestingly enough why is it so hard? Train wheels are very hot from friction and obviously they put alot of weight on wheels, now imagine whole trains going over rail for years. It's basically been forged.
They're forged long before they're laid. It's just very high carbon steel.
Great lesson Hickok! thanks for the demonstration.
That is section of train track your hammering on by the way. Those holes are at the end of each section of track are for the joint bar that spans two sections of rail.
keep these videos coming!
railroad track !!!!!
Appreciate the very informative lesson. Man that hammer is a beauty! looks like a Hickory handled claw. I have had one like that for 45 years, had 4 new handles and 3 heads.
Railroad track
Good old rail track has made more backyard anvils than anything. I'm not surprised Hickock has one!
railroad
Thanks Hickok45 !
I just did a youtube search of whether hard cast bullets expand - now I know !
Bought my first bigger bore rifle a while back H&R 444marlin , looks like the heavy jacketed bullets would expand and hit harder on deer and pigs .
Liked .
its a rail road track cant you tell
+Randy Tory Gullibility is a wonderful thing. :-)
get rekt
Randy Tory yep definitely a piece of rail track. I think he knows that he was just trying to boost the comments LOL
LOL!
Interesting. Good topic. Thanks for not forgetting the slo-mo at the end.
And for extremely fast loads I use a gas check which is a cooper base installed on the bottom of the bullet to seal off the hot gases preventing the lead from melting during the ignition and traveling down the barrel. Adding tin, antimony and a copper gas check to your cast bullets is easy and inexpensive process for the hand loader.
Could not tell you how many hard cast 200grSWC I have shot or loaded, they are a great bullet, little to no leading. With todays technology of plating with copper and poly coating I have not used them as much, but in 45-70 and 45 colt they are still the mainstay! Great video as always, glad you did not hit your finger! :) Keep the great vids coming!
I wish you would do more of these type videos. They are great
I loved the slow mo hammer strikes at the end lol
I'm just getting into casting and hand loading and I still wasn't sure about what "hard cast" meant. Thanks for enlightening me. Keep up the good work hickock45!
thanks for all you do hickok, i hope long after your gone i hope these videos still live on, your a great man god bless you and god bless america
I didn’t read other comments but I’m sure they told you that a railroad piece of steel. Great content always
I could be wrong but I think some "A" frame bullets have hard cast lead. Soft up front and hard in the back.
Soft up front mushrooms out and the hard that is in the back keeps driving it through.
Like I said I could be wrong .
I like you video Mr Hickcock 45
Your anvil is railway 🚃 track. Good stuff. When they tore up the tracks around here I retrieved many plates that held the line. Makes for great steel plate shooting. Nothing will penetrate it that I know of.
@friedmeat, YES, and it was in the same area where I found those two long rails of this stuff that I cut from! :-)
Thanks for this video. There is always something new to learn. You are a good teacher.
Hickock 45: Your anvil is a piece of rail from a railroad. We had a few on the farm. They work pretty good. We also used a few of those to weigh down our 14' implement disc for the field. They are heavy!
Great video good info one of the other things about cast bullets is most are a flat nose which creates a vary large shock wave when it hits enters something.
Railroad track makes wonderful boat anchors as well.
Hickock, This was very informative to me. Thanks for taking the time to make the video and explain the concept. Best, Dan
@wanted83, I use the same method that all the Civil War battle sites around the country use.
I always enjoy your reviews, but I really love when you teach.
Good video...learned something new! I bought these hard cast lead bullets for .45 ACP thinking they were cheap for use in the Para-Ordnance P14-45 here, but didn't know of their quality.
I'm not their spokesman or paid by them, but Oregon Trail makes some awesome laser-cast hard bullets that use Silver, in many sizes, that are great for reloading loads for defensive purposes.
Thanks for having this video here Hickok45!
For those with an interest: The material for the hard cast bullets is not pure lead, but rather an alloy. Most bullets use lead with a small amount of tin in it (tenths of a %). The softer cast bullets use lead with a bit more tin in them. The most popular alloy for cast bullets is known as linotype, which is a lead / antimony / tin alloy. Linotypes can even be heat treated to produce even higher hardness. A typical commercial linotype might be 4% tin, 12% antimony and 84% lead.
Man I thought you were going to hit a finger there for a second! Good video! I didn't realize that the hard cast lead bullets were that much harder than the jacketed ones! I've been reloading hard cast lead in .45 acp for a long time now because it's about half the price of jacketed and works just as good the only problem is the lube gunks up my S&W 1911's extractor!
Points for the railroad rail anvil, I made one myself!
On the hard/soft lead issue, a buddy loaded soft lead round nose for his 1911, he regretted it, for all the lead fouling those bullets left in his 1911 .45, it turned it into a smoothbore! My understanding is that any bullet fired through rifling by smokeless powder needs either a jacket or must be hard cast, or such regrets will reoccur.
@BestoinkDooly, I use exactly the same approach all the Civil War battle sights around the country use.
Hard Cast Bullets are made up of a Lead, Tin, Antimony, Mixture, Is what gives them that not so easy to disform when hitting a solid target or Hunting Game, Using them etc Thanks for sharing As always Hickok, Great info etc.
I watch a ton of your videos. The slow-motion hammering at the end was very humorous. Lol.
@walnutz84, Yeah, the results of a bad flinch can be pretty unfortunate whether it's a 250 grain hard cast bullet or whether it's a 7,000 grain hammer head! :-)
@jbrain93, He's always in the vicinity. We've gotten to where we tie him up on the porch if we're doing a shooting video, but otherwise, he's just scouting around and is likely to show up in the background. Who knows where he'll be. :-)