The legendary handgun hunter, Elmer Keith, found by experience that hard cast bullets are most effective on big game. He had many years of practical experience and knew that they did the job.
Hey Gentlemen, I first started watching you all when I needed some tips on restoring my newly purchased Mosin 91/30. You guys ALWAYS teach me something new and keep me laughing in the process! Thanks for another fun day in class. Grace & Peace
those 340 grain hard cast bullets are freaking runaway freight trains especially at +p+ pressures. I was shooting some jugs full of water with different bullets with my Ruger Redhawk and the JSP and HP were impressive as they exploded the jugs. The hard cast 340 gr. just punched a hole through the jug but left a huge hole in the ground behind the jug. Awesome videos like always.
Awesome video! I got to meet Eric and Chad this year at the NRA convention! Two of the nicest most down to earth guys you could ever meet! Eric gave me a patch for my jacket and a Velcro patch he pulled off his own backpack! I was greatful and glad I got my pic made with these two UA-cam ledgends :-D
Polly Archer the fbi standard comes from a 9mm fired in the 1987 miami shooting hitting the heart of a perp but just bouncing off and not penetrating. Before reaching the heart it went through the perpatrators denim jacket, into his arm, back through two more layers of denim, and then into his torso and right up to his heart, but again not having velocity to penetrate it. So in that shootout the denim jacket kept the perpetrator alive for a few more minutes during which he killed several fbi agents
I can remember as a kid,( in the 70’s) my dad was always jumping out of the truck at intersections picking up tire weights to melt them down and cast bullets for the .44 and .38. The .44 was always my favorite (original Ruger super Blackhawk) because the mold was a conical armor piercing one and he loaded a bit hot but the fun levels were off the charts. Cool video.
You failed to mention that the lead has to be hard enough to withstand velocities over 1100 fps. When I was young and stupid (over 55 years ago) I started to reload. I reloaded some 38 Special wadcutter bullets that might have been cast or swedged. Swedged bullets are much softer than hard cast. After firing one cylinder, I noticed that the bullets were key-holing. Upon inspecting the barrel, I noticed that the lands and grooves were GONE! Actually, they were still there but because I loaded the rounds faster than 1100 fps, the bullets just skid across the lands and grooves and filled them with lead. A serious lesson was learned.
I’ve cast thousands in 357mag 44 mag 45/70 and in pa.where I lived I had Honor of Guys from several gun clubs taught me tons of reloading and casting with linotype or printers lead, it hardens lead for serious fps in all calibers thanks for teaching youngens some good info
When my wifes mother died I helped clean out her home. Her deceased husband had been a police officer for many years. His reloading bench was like a time capsule from 1968. He had hundreds of cast bullets, mostly in .38. His go to round seemed to be semi wad cutter hollow points. We still have his J frame back up gun. It was loaded with them when we found it. I also found several boxes of handloaded wadcutters, about half of which were turned around backwards in the cases. Thats an old school hollow point for ya....
Actually work quite well if not driven too fast. At 38 Spl velocities, it expands well and has decent penetration. At 357 Mag velocities, they are virtually explosive and have very poor penetration. Not a bad choice, loaded near max for 38 Spl, especially in a snub nose.
@ Stoned................you're wrong. It's quite common to reverse a hollow base wadcutter and load it base out for a large hollowpoint. Quit trying to play expert when you clearly are wet behind the ears and in no way an expert.
Some 38 cal wad cutters had hollow bases to increase the bearing surface of the bullet. Some had an identical top and bottom. So the people talking about turning them upside down are talking about the hollow base ones.
By far this is the best video I have seen in a while! You guys rock, I love the fact that your content is unique, haven't seen too much on this. Keep these ballistic vids coming, stay safe stay healthy, wish you all the best!
Very well done. Excellent testing. Watching you from the beginning Mosin Nagant days til' now, it's a relief to see this level of analysis and testing being done opposed to what everyone else is doing. It's lifestyle and passion opposed to attempting a half assed video to add to what we've already seen. Fantastic!
Fantastic shooting and scary impacts from those "old" cast rounds! Imagine the (final) surprise of someone underestimating them in a home/self defense situation? you'd be cleaning bits of intruder out of your walls for days!
The accuracy difference between a semi wadcutter cast and a jacketed hollow point or Flat Point would be interesting. Plus I would have like to seen if there was a difference of performance between jacketed and the cast lead bullets in the ballistic gel.
On lower velocity bullets like 38 special you can use soft cast. You get leading if you go faster than 900 fps. I use hard cast wad cutters in my j- frame even though I’m only doing 750 to 800. No problems with penetration even with a 380. I love these videos, because of my age I can no longer take the recoil from my old Colt Python with +p loads. Keep up the good work
Back in the day, in England, a lot of us used “Linotype” hard cast lead for performance rounds in .45ACP, 9mm and .38 Special (+ others). Linotype was used in newspaper printing and could cast quite fine detail. Used them in UKPSA comps for Major rounds. Best, Pete.
In Zimbabwe when they were working on allowing handgun hunting, some of the Game Warden guys there took hardcast bullet with core of hard metal. That proved very good on Elephant, zipped through, buffalo, and also for terrorist stopping. The .41 Mag and .44 Mag were the guns chosen to be test weapons for the trials. Trials went well and it is allowed there.
He has the left patch of HV-02 (Oslo og Akershus) and seeing that it is the new patch i would guess the jacket is surplus but the patches are probably sent/traded to him. i'm originally from norway, but moved to the US last year and a lot of american veterans/soldiers trade patches with soldiers overseas and on the internet especially TMBN patches :)
That hard cast lead 44 mag bullet would make a great brush round. When I was a kid my Father and I would go to the tire shop and pick up all the old tire weights we could get and that is what we would cast our bullets with. They made great bullets. We used them for shooting targets and for hunting. We would buy some Speer bullets every once in a while for the large calibers for deer hunting but used the casts for target shooting still. You can run the in the Garand or the M1 carbine fine also. They make great slugs also.
***** There is a counter argument though. Likelihood of engagement versus the time spend with those rounds equipped. And if they're not equipped and ready to go, what's the point of having then stored since they won't be used when needed most.
***** There's nothing better than depleted uranium for projectiles. I don't think you can buy any for rifles though. There mustn't exist any ammo for handheld weaponry for a multitude of reasons including legal, environmental and security ones. Such ammo is used in cannons, 30mm and above I'd imagine
I have a mold for the .44 mag. It’s an RCBS 315 gr gas check SWC. When I sort them by weight it will shoot sub 2 inch groups at 100 yards from my Scoped Ruger Super Redhawk. It’s a mild load compared to my full house jacketed loads. Easier on the ears.
That big, flat meplat on the.429 inch pill is another reason to love it for use on big game. The edge on it will do a lot of schearing on its way through a critter.
That captured 340gr that went through the gel and boards should have had a Mack Truck logo on the front of it lol. I still have 90% of a box of BTB 330gr WFNGC waiting on me to try them in my new Ruger M77/44. They were bought years ago for a 444 Marlin.
The direction of the flag actually has a deeper meaning than that. It is a symbol of the soldier walking head on in headwind and difficulties, and that he does not take the path of lesser resistance :)
Eric when you shot the 44 magnum this actually brought tears to my eyes I used to have the s&w mod. 29 I had to hand it in in 1997 in the uk when handguns were banned brought back some nice memories. Although I am back into shooting again with all the uk restrictions I’m looking for a 357 chiappa rhino now. I also have a marlin 1894 44 magnum so not all bad.
It would be nice to do a side by side comparison of the heavy hard cast loads with the Underwood Extreme Penetrator ammo. I'm wondering how the wound channel and penetration would compare.
I enjoy seeing the Golden Boy's getting some love from the IV8888 crew of late. That 44 is a hand cannon. Literally. Also, give the Underwood 38 Special +P 158 Grain HCK a try. You'll have a new found respect for what the old 38 is capable of. Great video guys!
Awesome vid. Good to see you enjoy this sort of thing. With all the talk of penetration, inches, loads...sometimes I wonder how you keep a straight face through it all....
After trying various jacketed bullets in my 30-30 I eventually switched to a gas checked hard cast 180 gr FP bullet which I have used for the last 16 yrs for bushpig and warthog. At bushveld / woodland distances and weight class of game a 30-30 is used for, the cast bullets out perform any jacketed soft points in terms of penetration, reliability and and reduced meat damage. At 1900 ft/s they deliver the same penetration as a 270 gr Barnes X from my 375 H&H mag,
Cast hollow points are my go to loads for .38 special and .357 magnum. The only negative to cast lead is you really have to get in there and scrub out the barrel with a good solvent after shooting.
Are you aware that those 340 gr Underwood loads are way over max for that Model 29? I wouldn't want you to loosen up or wear out a nice handgun. For that matter they may not be safe in the Henry either. Great video otherwise.
Eric have a cast bullet that settled your country, the Girandoni air rifle .46 cal gravity fed mag 20 balls effective range 125 yards,and kept Lewis and Clarke safe with all the natives they encountered thru their expedition,each rifle came with 2 pressurized bottles in a handy carry bag circa 1779.
I heard the old soft lead balls from the revolutionary War shattered bone and made gaping holes. Plus the primitive medical practices meant a flesh wound was probably fatal.
They sell a cap and ball pistol kit at Cabelas for under $300 and I was thinking it would be a good Saturday killer to screw around with one. You don't have to go through any background checks or nothing! Just like buying a loaf of bread. And the power those things have. Loud, smoky, fire breathing beast. So much fun.
I am just watching this again, no doubt I posted a comment when this came out. I look forward to seeing some more videos about casting and reloading from you. There are many of us who live in areas where ammo is still scarce and just starting to hit shelves with some more regularity. Components are also scarce here in Northern Maine. Thanks for what you do!
1. It is not a Heimevernet [HV] (Home Guard) jacket - it's a standard Norwegian military jacket with a Home Guard velcro patch on it. 2. I do also want to know how he got that!
Cast bullets are great fun to shoot. They more fun to hand cast myself. I have a peaceful time going over them, inspecting them for deformities, grain weight, etc. and find it a pleasant way to pass the afternoon. We have a local shop that is a full service gun shop, and reclaimed lead from there is really cheap. It fluxes easily, and make the ingots we need for large scale casting quickly.
I agree cast bullets are viable but you don’t want hard cast as your defense choice. Maybe for use on coyotes and unwanted feral critters but you need expansion to limit risk of over penetration. I like a soft SWC or TC bullet moving fast enough to deform.
Cast is all I shoot. I cast my own and it allows me to practice a lot. My hog load last year was .44 magnum was a 305 grain WFN cast from Lyman number 2 traveling at 1235 fps. Very decisive on a couple of good size pigs.
Nice video - I just upgraded my woods gun to .44 mag and this makes me feel 100% more comfortable walking anywhere in the lower 48. I've currently got fmj flat nosed in 240 grain but seriously thinking of using this load while hiking the back country. Of course bear bones are tougher than the ribs you put up but considering everything else it went through, it should pen even large black bears (what I may encounter) no problem. Thank you.
Thanks for all the effort you went to (making the ballistics gel/giving us the speeds/using various shooting platforms). I especially appreciate your revisiting what some people consider an 'un-sexy' bullet--high end hardened lead, with gas-checks. Modern enough for me! Thanks from one of the 500,000 who were in Desert Storm.
I carry 310 gr. Laser cast in Grizz country with full confidence I can make one sit down and behave if I have to but now I'm going to have to get some of those 340 gr. Underwoods...that was impressive.
Not that it matters now 5 years later but just thought I should throw it out there that both underwood and buffalo bore recommend that the 340 grain +p+ loads are not fired out of a smith model 29 due to their much weaker actions compared to a Ruger Redhawk, super Redhawk, black hawk, dan Wesson m44, etc.. not hating on the 29 I have two vintage 29-2s that I love. Just warning anyone watching that both of these ammo manufactures say that the 340 grain +p+ hard cast is technically not safe in the smith model 29/629. Stay safe, shoot on.
+AlexanderSuperTramp no the ceramic plates are a two piece design. Ceramic layer breaks up bullet and the composite layer catches the fragments. But if you turn it around and shoot the backside it will be the composite layer in front and ceramic behind
+Captain Patchwork As long as you are not adding anything which would change the properties of the gel, or mixing different batches of gel together, it should not be an issue. It just seems incredibly wasteful to throw away the ballistics gelatin, just because it has some particulate in it, and I'm sure that reusing the blocks over and over again during shoots would affect the ballistics gelatin more than melting it down and re-pouring it into blocks.
That is one damn good idea, if it works. That ballistics gel is NOT cheap. With ease, you could skim, screen, and filter out almost all impurities when its melted. I wonder if it has to reach a specific temperature to set up with the same/correct firmness again? As long as it gels up at all, even if it isn't perfect quality, you would have a very valuable target. Might lose a little bit each usage, from the bullet damage, but why not recycle the gel into another awesomely dynamic target block! I bet you could make a machine that automatically melted down and reset your gel blocks.
+James Warner As long as you keep the gel under 250 degrees Fahrenheit, it should melt with ease, but it will take some time to get it fully melted. All you would have to do is cut the main block into smaller chunks, place it in a large stainless steel container like a big cooking pan, and set it in the oven at about 200 to 220 degrees, and just let it all sit in there until it fully melts, all the particulate would sink to the bottom, then all that would be left is once all the bubbles are gone, and it is fully melted, you could leave it in the container you are melting it in, let it cool completely, then once it is unmolded, take a piece of wire and just cut off the bottom part that contains all the particulate.
Eric is a busy man, it probably does not make financial sense for him to spend the time cleaning up and recasting the gel block. Probably easier for him to just huck it in the trash and wait for a sponsor to donate another block to the channel.
One San Antonio PD officer loaded cast hollowpoint bullets for duty ammo, but he filled the cavity with black powder and then a pistol primer into the bullet nose facing to the rear. The bullet cavity was then sealed. It was said that the wound channels were quite phenomenal.
the old vaquero is a heavy frame revolver also was chambered in 44 mag ,i load a 300 gr xtp with a heavy charge of w296 mag powder into starline brass, chorngraph at 1180 fps it is well within the pressure range of a safe load but not for the new vaquero
I use 3 parts wheel weight with 1 part linotype. My bullets are gas checked 255gr keith for the .44 from rcbs. Deadly round. Decent expantion and very good penetration. Works good on Deer, Elk, Bear, and Pig. Load is hot 20.5 gr of Win 296 shot through a 7 1/2" Super Blackhawk.
I...........cannot.imagine, being in battle, trying to get a piece of "rope" to light, lol Uh, Hold on enemy solider. the winds blowing too hard at the moment", haha
Hi Eric. Now you are showing what i shoot and hunt with. I have a brass big boy 44, and a Ruger super Blackhawk hunter 44. . I hand load a 240 grn hardcast gas checked .sized.430.from Montana bullet works. Imr 4227 full load. I shot several deer here in Pennsylvania. A nice 6 point at about 60 yds. The bullet went in front right should and came out left rear hind quarter. They do not expand. But the flat on front acts like an expanded soft point. Hand loading brings the cost way down.and my rifle and revolver are very accurate. God bless awsome video. Merry Christmas 😊
XA company called War Wolf Ordnance makes a 12 gauge load called Hog Balls that features TWO 70 caliber hardcast balls. That thing does some damage. I believe they have a 3.5 inch liad with three in it now but from I understand recoil is quite harsh because they are loaded hot designed for large, heavy, dangerous animals.
For self-defense, I re-form 255 grain soft-lead .45 colt cowboy bullets, using a large ball bearing to create a full-wadcutter hollow-point. They cut a .45 caliber hole and expand to about .58-.60 caliber in water, and penetrate over 20 inches. That'll dump a lot of energy in meat and bone...
is it true that wheel weights have 5 percent tin in them? I have thought about using them for casting fishing sinkers and bullets. I have read that in certain guns like black powder guns for example- the wheel weights are too hard and can negatively effect rifling. What is your experience with them?
This guy is good and knowledgeable and puts on a professional presentation. I enjoyed watching this as a shooter and agree with what he has to say. And I have personally have had great success with the hard cast, gas check 240 gr bullets in a Deerfield 44 Ruger on hogs,
Seeing as to how the bloodiest war in our national history was fought with pure lead bullets and here and there, buckshot, I have never been one to go overboard for jacketed bullets. It still kills as well as it ever did. Pure lead is the best transmitter of shock, with or without expansion. I keep autoloaders for when the crap hits the fan blades and maybe the only kind of ammo around is jacketed. Practice revolver ammo is harder cast to shoot cleaner and cheaper (range lead, wheelweights, etc.) But for serious purposes the sheet lead say, from the walls around the X-ray department, etc. is what I need for the best hitting power. Plenty of time to clean the gun after the cops give it back, unless they run it through the chop saw after the inquest.
The legendary handgun hunter, Elmer Keith, found by experience that hard cast bullets are most effective on big game. He had many years of practical experience and knew that they did the job.
Keith 429421 ,44 at 267grains in front of 18 grains of 2400 lit off by CCI 350 primer. Took my first elk with one of them.
I love the fact that you guys not just rely on ballistics gel, but actually use something that simulates a real body. Really, really nice!
Hey Gentlemen, I first started watching you all when I needed some tips on restoring my newly purchased Mosin 91/30. You guys ALWAYS teach me something new and keep me laughing in the process! Thanks for another fun day in class. Grace & Peace
those 340 grain hard cast bullets are freaking runaway freight trains especially at +p+ pressures. I was shooting some jugs full of water with different bullets with my Ruger Redhawk and the JSP and HP were impressive as they exploded the jugs. The hard cast 340 gr. just punched a hole through the jug but left a huge hole in the ground behind the jug. Awesome videos like always.
“That’s what she said”LOL.
Awesome video! I got to meet Eric and Chad this year at the NRA convention! Two of the nicest most down to earth guys you could ever meet! Eric gave me a patch for my jacket and a Velcro patch he pulled off his own backpack! I was greatful and glad I got my pic made with these two UA-cam ledgends :-D
really though UA-cam legends fit definitely going to remember the whole Iraqveteran8888 crew
Oh, hold on, are you telling me that I've been strutting around wearing layers of denim and I was as vulnerable as everyone else?
Polly Archer the fbi standard comes from a 9mm fired in the 1987 miami shooting hitting the heart of a perp but just bouncing off and not penetrating. Before reaching the heart it went through the perpatrators denim jacket, into his arm, back through two more layers of denim, and then into his torso and right up to his heart, but again not having velocity to penetrate it.
So in that shootout the denim jacket kept the perpetrator alive for a few more minutes during which he killed several fbi agents
Ignorant swine
😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@andreahighsides7756 Shit, that's good news! We need way less tyrants.
R6Mute Main do a wheelie
I can remember as a kid,( in the 70’s) my dad was always jumping out of the truck at intersections picking up tire weights to melt them down and cast bullets for the .44 and .38. The .44 was always my favorite (original Ruger super Blackhawk) because the mold was a conical armor piercing one and he loaded a bit hot but the fun levels were off the charts. Cool video.
You failed to mention that the lead has to be hard enough to withstand velocities over 1100 fps. When I was young and stupid (over 55 years ago) I started to reload. I reloaded some 38 Special wadcutter bullets that might have been cast or swedged. Swedged bullets are much softer than hard cast. After firing one cylinder, I noticed that the bullets were key-holing. Upon inspecting the barrel, I noticed that the lands and grooves were GONE! Actually, they were still there but because I loaded the rounds faster than 1100 fps, the bullets just skid across the lands and grooves and filled them with lead. A serious lesson was learned.
true
what i love about this guy, is he's kind of a country bumpkin, but he speaks so well and with confidence . its hard not to like this guy
Jacob McKay Don't judge the book by it's cover. He's way smarter than many wanna be firearms experts.
He is also a combat veteran
Does being country, make you not speak well?
@Dj d I live in the country too. There's a cornfield right next to my house, everyone around here is well spoken, with an accent.
@Dj d living in a rural area doesn't make you illiterate, being illiterate makes you illiterate.
I’ve cast thousands in 357mag 44 mag 45/70 and in pa.where I lived I had Honor of Guys from several gun clubs taught me tons of reloading and casting with linotype or printers lead, it hardens lead for serious fps in all calibers thanks for teaching youngens some good info
When my wifes mother died I helped clean out her home. Her deceased husband had been a police officer for many years. His reloading bench was like a time capsule from 1968. He had hundreds of cast bullets, mostly in .38. His go to round seemed to be semi wad cutter hollow points. We still have his J frame back up gun. It was loaded with them when we found it. I also found several boxes of handloaded wadcutters, about half of which were turned around backwards in the cases. Thats an old school hollow point for ya....
It's not uncommon. Reversing the wadcutter was something a lot of backup guns were loaded with ;)
semi wadcutter turned backwards.
Actually work quite well if not driven too fast. At 38 Spl velocities, it expands well and has decent penetration. At 357 Mag velocities, they are virtually explosive and have very poor penetration. Not a bad choice, loaded near max for 38 Spl, especially in a snub nose.
@ Stoned................you're wrong. It's quite common to reverse a hollow base wadcutter and load it base out for a large hollowpoint. Quit trying to play expert when you clearly are wet behind the ears and in no way an expert.
Some 38 cal wad cutters had hollow bases to increase the bearing surface of the bullet. Some had an identical top and bottom. So the people talking about turning them upside down are talking about the hollow base ones.
By far this is the best video I have seen in a while! You guys rock, I love the fact that your content is unique, haven't seen too much on this. Keep these ballistic vids coming, stay safe stay healthy, wish you all the best!
Very well done. Excellent testing. Watching you from the beginning Mosin Nagant days til' now, it's a relief to see this level of analysis and testing being done opposed to what everyone else is doing. It's lifestyle and passion opposed to attempting a half assed video to add to what we've already seen. Fantastic!
Fantastic shooting and scary impacts from those "old" cast rounds! Imagine the (final) surprise of someone underestimating them in a home/self defense situation? you'd be cleaning bits of intruder out of your walls for days!
The accuracy difference between a semi wadcutter cast and a jacketed hollow point or Flat Point would be interesting. Plus I would have like to seen if there was a difference of performance between jacketed and the cast lead bullets in the ballistic gel.
On lower velocity bullets like 38 special you can use soft cast. You get leading if you go faster than 900 fps. I use hard cast wad cutters in my j- frame even though I’m only doing 750 to 800. No problems with penetration even with a 380. I love these videos, because of my age I can no longer take the recoil from my old Colt Python with +p loads. Keep up the good work
Love your videos man, you pack them full of different tests and you keep it interesting the whole time. You've earned a loyal subscriber today.
Videos like this are the reason I stay subbed. Great job guys.
your camera work is fantastic. I really enjoyed the slow motion shot through the baffle boards. Perfect lighting.
Back in the day, in England, a lot of us used “Linotype” hard cast lead for performance rounds in .45ACP, 9mm and .38 Special (+ others). Linotype was used in newspaper printing and could cast quite fine detail. Used them in UKPSA comps for Major rounds. Best, Pete.
Love the demeanor of this guy, could listen to him talking about guns all day.
the trick would be getting him to stop talking lol
In Zimbabwe when they were working on allowing handgun hunting, some of the Game Warden guys there took hardcast bullet with core of hard metal. That proved very good on Elephant, zipped through, buffalo, and also for terrorist stopping. The .41 Mag and .44 Mag were the guns chosen to be test weapons for the trials. Trials went well and it is allowed there.
Strange to see a HV(Norwegian home guard) uniform on an American. Surplus or some story behind it Iraqveteran8888?
im actually from norway :D
Eric often wears military jackets from different countries in videos
He has the left patch of HV-02 (Oslo og Akershus) and seeing that it is the new patch i would guess the jacket is surplus but the patches are probably sent/traded to him. i'm originally from norway, but moved to the US last year and a lot of american veterans/soldiers trade patches with soldiers overseas and on the internet especially TMBN patches :)
Works out quite well, even though its not pure socialism, luckily.
We are after all in top3 countries in the world.
You can see around 6:50 that the patch is in fact a HV-09 patch (Bergenhus)
Excellent program planning, a clear aurthorative voice, and no bullshit cover music. This is one of the better firearm videos.
I would prefer a match lock over a flintlock because it has almost 100 percent chance of firing unlike a flintlock
That hard cast lead 44 mag bullet would make a great brush round. When I was a kid my Father and I would go to the tire shop and pick up all the old tire weights we could get and that is what we would cast our bullets with. They made great bullets. We used them for shooting targets and for hunting. We would buy some Speer bullets every once in a while for the large calibers for deer hunting but used the casts for target shooting still. You can run the in the Garand or the M1 carbine fine also. They make great slugs also.
depleted uranium rounds are the deadliest ammo.
MEME STAR If you're in a position where their use is needed, radiation is the least of your concerns
***** There is a counter argument though. Likelihood of engagement versus the time spend with those rounds equipped. And if they're not equipped and ready to go, what's the point of having then stored since they won't be used when needed most.
***** There's nothing better than depleted uranium for projectiles. I don't think you can buy any for rifles though. There mustn't exist any ammo for handheld weaponry for a multitude of reasons including legal, environmental and security ones. Such ammo is used in cannons, 30mm and above I'd imagine
Dustin Pardy
no. fluoroantimonic acid rounds are the deadliest.
(contained in a thin teflon projectile der)
The rounds from a plutonium 238 space modulator has the deadliest round
I have a mold for the .44 mag. It’s an RCBS 315 gr gas check SWC. When I sort them by weight it will shoot sub 2 inch groups at 100 yards from my Scoped Ruger Super Redhawk. It’s a mild load compared to my full house jacketed loads. Easier on the ears.
that mare's leg is awesome
+Fuh koogle i love penetration videos aswell.
hot
To much battlefield
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i like the smith.
That big, flat meplat on the.429 inch pill is another reason to love it for use on big game. The edge on it will do a lot of schearing on its way through a critter.
Really good content you have here. I thoroughly enjoyed the video thank you for your time and effort and everyone else that was involved.
That captured 340gr that went through the gel and boards should have had a Mack Truck logo on the front of it lol.
I still have 90% of a box of BTB 330gr WFNGC waiting on me to try them in my new Ruger M77/44. They were bought years ago for a 444 Marlin.
Well, “that was an interesting result”! Also, “there is no free lunch in physics”.
The direction of the flag actually has a deeper meaning than that. It is a symbol of the soldier walking head on in headwind and difficulties, and that he does not take the path of lesser resistance :)
Norwegian HV light jacket? Representing my brothers to the north.
Eric when you shot the 44 magnum this actually brought tears to my eyes I used to have the s&w mod. 29 I had to hand it in in 1997 in the uk when handguns were banned brought back some nice memories. Although I am back into shooting again with all the uk restrictions I’m looking for a 357 chiappa rhino now. I also have a marlin 1894 44 magnum so not all bad.
Step one is gtfo of uk
It would be nice to do a side by side comparison of the heavy hard cast loads with the Underwood Extreme Penetrator ammo. I'm wondering how the wound channel and penetration would compare.
I enjoy seeing the Golden Boy's getting some love from the IV8888 crew of late. That 44 is a hand cannon. Literally. Also, give the Underwood 38 Special +P 158 Grain HCK a try. You'll have a new found respect for what the old 38 is capable of. Great video guys!
Awesome vid. Good to see you enjoy this sort of thing. With all the talk of penetration, inches, loads...sometimes I wonder how you keep a straight face through it all....
You said load! Hehehe.. :-D
Nice BT profile pic bro
After trying various jacketed bullets in my 30-30 I eventually switched to a gas checked hard cast 180 gr FP bullet which I have used for the last 16 yrs for bushpig and warthog. At bushveld / woodland distances and weight class of game a 30-30 is used for, the cast bullets out perform any jacketed soft points in terms of penetration, reliability and and reduced meat damage. At 1900 ft/s they deliver the same penetration as a 270 gr Barnes X from my 375 H&H mag,
Nice Norwegian HM jacket:D
or Heimevernet (home guard) jacket:D
M02 jakke
was it a copy?
Wimp McGrump probably a sub sent it to him
Yes, probably, but I think it's a copy. It should've a zipper.
Cast hollow points are my go to loads for .38 special and .357 magnum. The only negative to cast lead is you really have to get in there and scrub out the barrel with a good solvent after shooting.
You should have stepped up to 45-70 Govt. major mistake. Buffalo/Indian killer how in the hell could you not have had that bullet in this video?
agreed
Of a 44-40 because of how common it was
love the vids on the older tech of firearms... its old technology, but its constantly evolving :)
Are you aware that those 340 gr Underwood loads are way over max for that Model 29? I wouldn't want you to loosen up or wear out a nice handgun. For that matter they may not be safe in the Henry either. Great video otherwise.
Over max? A steady diet would be unadvisedle, but in a hunting or defensive situation life will go on
+Iraqveteran8888 whats unadvisedle?
No inadvisable. Thats what he meant but awesome upload. WE need more of this quality of content.
Glad that detail got addressed...
+Desertfox2020
I was happy to find your comment, I wanted to write exactly the same. This load is NOT for the Smith&Wesson.
Eric have a cast bullet that settled your country, the Girandoni air rifle .46 cal gravity fed mag 20 balls effective range 125 yards,and kept Lewis and Clarke safe with all the natives they encountered thru their expedition,each rifle came with 2 pressurized bottles in a handy carry bag circa 1779.
Take a shot every time he says "penetrate" 😆
M - Dub19 or when he says, "I tell ya what"
Rob Banta Georgia speak is great "more times than you can shake a stick at it."
We want a drinking game, not alcohol poisoning!
M - Dub19 I'd be swacked two minutes in!
I heard the old soft lead balls from the revolutionary War shattered bone and made gaping holes. Plus the primitive medical practices meant a flesh wound was probably fatal.
Barry approves this video.
They sell a cap and ball pistol kit at Cabelas for under $300 and I was thinking it would be a good Saturday killer to screw around with one. You don't have to go through any background checks or nothing! Just like buying a loaf of bread. And the power those things have. Loud, smoky, fire breathing beast. So much fun.
Would have been nice to see all this with a .357 Magnum thrown in for comparison.
357 is already known to be awesome. He’s trying to awesome the rest of those cartridges.
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I am just watching this again, no doubt I posted a comment when this came out. I look forward to seeing some more videos about casting and reloading from you. There are many of us who live in areas where ammo is still scarce and just starting to hit shelves with some more regularity. Components are also scarce here in Northern Maine. Thanks for what you do!
Aha, I see someone else is starting to use the 'meat target' ;)
4:41 - Man!! A blast from the past, litterally! That musket means business. Gotta love this channel :)
Where did you get a norwegian Heimvernet jacket?
Gesundheit!
+d lol was?
1. It is not a Heimevernet [HV] (Home Guard) jacket - it's a standard Norwegian military jacket with a Home Guard velcro patch on it.
2. I do also want to know how he got that!
thankyou MrObvious ;) let me refrain my question. Where did you get a standard norwegian miitary jacket and a HV patch. Better?
No, your original question was not obvious for the general public Holmes. A reply from the man himself is unlikely.
Cast bullets are great fun to shoot. They more fun to hand cast myself. I have a peaceful time going over them, inspecting them for deformities, grain weight, etc. and find it a pleasant way to pass the afternoon. We have a local shop that is a full service gun shop, and reclaimed lead from there is really cheap. It fluxes easily, and make the ingots we need for large scale casting quickly.
I'm interested in a video on casting. :)
I agree cast bullets are viable but you don’t want hard cast as your defense choice. Maybe for use on coyotes and unwanted feral critters but you need expansion to limit risk of over penetration. I like a soft SWC or TC bullet moving fast enough to deform.
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Cast is all I shoot. I cast my own and it allows me to practice a lot. My hog load last year was .44 magnum was a 305 grain WFN cast from Lyman number 2 traveling at 1235 fps. Very decisive on a couple of good size pigs.
Love videos like this.
Nice video - I just upgraded my woods gun to .44 mag and this makes me feel 100% more comfortable walking anywhere in the lower 48. I've currently got fmj flat nosed in 240 grain but seriously thinking of using this load while hiking the back country. Of course bear bones are tougher than the ribs you put up but considering everything else it went through, it should pen even large black bears (what I may encounter) no problem. Thank you.
Nothing beats a pommel
Thanks for all the effort you went to (making the ballistics gel/giving us the speeds/using various shooting platforms). I especially appreciate your revisiting what some people consider an 'un-sexy' bullet--high end hardened lead, with gas-checks. Modern enough for me! Thanks from one of the 500,000 who were in Desert Storm.
That .44 bullet sounds like a great 'hog-gun' round.
in a ruger Deerfield it is awesome
I carry 310 gr. Laser cast in Grizz country with full confidence I can make one sit down and behave if I have to but now I'm going to have to get some of those 340 gr. Underwoods...that was impressive.
in a marlin 1894 its the bees knees.
Not that it matters now 5 years later but just thought I should throw it out there that both underwood and buffalo bore recommend that the 340 grain +p+ loads are not fired out of a smith model 29 due to their much weaker actions compared to a Ruger Redhawk, super Redhawk, black hawk, dan Wesson m44, etc.. not hating on the 29 I have two vintage 29-2s that I love. Just warning anyone watching that both of these ammo manufactures say that the 340 grain +p+ hard cast is technically not safe in the smith model 29/629. Stay safe, shoot on.
Hey would you guys mind shooting ar500 level 4 ceramic body armour backwards. I think it would be a cool test as they are a 2 piece design.
I wanna see that. both ceramic and metal. lvl 4 body armor
Why? We all know it's gonna stop the bullet, why not just ask him for a video of shooting it into the dirt? Actually that might kill the earth.
i believe the demo ranch did that.
+AlexanderSuperTramp no the ceramic plates are a two piece design. Ceramic layer breaks up bullet and the composite layer catches the fragments. But if you turn it around and shoot the backside it will be the composite layer in front and ceramic behind
+Vladimir kurylenko no I just checked his uploads.
Damn, I like how that Vaquero looks.
Why throw away that ballistic gel dummy?
Why not melt it down, skim all the crap out of it, and recast it into a block for future use?
Questionable quality, which makes any results gained from testing with it unreliable.
+Captain Patchwork
As long as you are not adding anything which would change the properties of the gel, or mixing different batches of gel together, it should not be an issue.
It just seems incredibly wasteful to throw away the ballistics gelatin, just because it has some particulate in it, and I'm sure that reusing the blocks over and over again during shoots would affect the ballistics gelatin more than melting it down and re-pouring it into blocks.
That is one damn good idea, if it works. That ballistics gel is NOT cheap. With ease, you could skim, screen, and filter out almost all impurities when its melted. I wonder if it has to reach a specific temperature to set up with the same/correct firmness again? As long as it gels up at all, even if it isn't perfect quality, you would have a very valuable target. Might lose a little bit each usage, from the bullet damage, but why not recycle the gel into another awesomely dynamic target block! I bet you could make a machine that automatically melted down and reset your gel blocks.
+James Warner
As long as you keep the gel under 250 degrees Fahrenheit, it should melt with ease, but it will take some time to get it fully melted.
All you would have to do is cut the main block into smaller chunks, place it in a large stainless steel container like a big cooking pan, and set it in the oven at about 200 to 220 degrees, and just let it all sit in there until it fully melts, all the particulate would sink to the bottom, then all that would be left is once all the bubbles are gone, and it is fully melted, you could leave it in the container you are melting it in, let it cool completely, then once it is unmolded, take a piece of wire and just cut off the bottom part that contains all the particulate.
Eric is a busy man, it probably does not make financial sense for him to spend the time cleaning up and recasting the gel block. Probably easier for him to just huck it in the trash and wait for a sponsor to donate another block to the channel.
What are the most common calibers available in Lead cast ammo, 45-70, 30-30, 45 Colt, .50 Ball...etc?
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One San Antonio PD officer loaded cast hollowpoint bullets for duty ammo, but he filled the cavity with black powder and then a pistol primer into the bullet nose facing to the rear. The bullet cavity was then sealed. It was said that the wound channels were quite phenomenal.
Be very very careful, I think the +p+ ammo is not safe to fire out of that revolver!
its fine
the old vaquero is a heavy frame revolver also was chambered in 44 mag ,i load a 300 gr xtp with a heavy charge of w296 mag powder into starline brass, chorngraph at 1180 fps it is well within the pressure range of a safe load but not for the new vaquero
Needs to get a Ruger Super Redhawk :) for that +p+ ammo
Super Blackhawk should handle anything that starts to rupture brass without a sweat.
Correct. The SW frames are not built to take a steady diet of +p or +p+
Wow!
That matchlock is unbelievable!
pls do a video about casting
Afanios melt lead add tin pour in mold
I actually cast my own 9 mm 124 grn just with cleaned scrap lead I keep them for SHTF .
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I use 3 parts wheel weight with 1 part linotype. My bullets are gas checked 255gr keith for the .44 from rcbs. Deadly round. Decent expantion and very good penetration. Works good on Deer, Elk, Bear, and Pig. Load is hot 20.5 gr of Win 296 shot through a 7 1/2" Super Blackhawk.
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I use tyre waits for my cast amo and they are very great .
I...........cannot.imagine, being in battle, trying to get a piece of "rope" to light, lol
Uh, Hold on enemy solider. the winds blowing too hard at the moment", haha
Hi Eric. Now you are showing what i shoot and hunt with. I have a brass big boy 44, and a Ruger super Blackhawk hunter 44. . I hand load a 240 grn hardcast gas checked .sized.430.from Montana bullet works. Imr 4227 full load. I shot several deer here in Pennsylvania. A nice 6 point at about 60 yds. The bullet went in front right should and came out left rear hind quarter. They do not expand. But the flat on front acts like an expanded soft point. Hand loading brings the cost way down.and my rifle and revolver are very accurate. God bless awsome video. Merry Christmas 😊
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Heimevernet!
I am 36 in line for the symbolic king of Norway, my family traces back and and goes way back to when Norway was founded. So pretty cool I guess
+Alexander Morrison everyone with European ancestry has royal relatives, (they had a ton of illegitimate children)
The flag is turned the wrong way. :( Hope it is not sown on like that.
I use 360gr. Buffalo Bore Heavy .454 in my Alaskan Revolver, absolutely love it.
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XA company called War Wolf Ordnance makes a 12 gauge load called Hog Balls that features TWO 70 caliber hardcast balls. That thing does some damage. I believe they have a 3.5 inch liad with three in it now but from I understand recoil is quite harsh because they are loaded hot designed for large, heavy, dangerous animals.
damn cliffhangers!
The cliffhanger video is coming tomorrow. 🙊
+Iraqveteran8888 has anyone ever experimented with kirksite round's?
+Iraqveteran8888 why would you use full coke bottles?.. all that soaked into the ground..
as he said in an earlier video, he is against Coke and sorts of them.
He's preventing childhood diabetes, one round at a time.
For self-defense, I re-form 255 grain soft-lead .45 colt cowboy bullets, using a large ball bearing to create a full-wadcutter hollow-point. They cut a .45 caliber hole and expand to about .58-.60 caliber in water, and penetrate over 20 inches. That'll dump a lot of energy in meat and bone...
+P+ is a hot fucken load! ... but the Model 29 should handle that with no problems.
Yes. I have cast wheel weights for 30 years. I would love a video on hard lead casting.
is it true that wheel weights have 5 percent tin in them? I have thought about using them for casting fishing sinkers and bullets. I have read that in certain guns like black powder guns for example- the wheel weights are too hard and can negatively effect rifling. What is your experience with them?
So much uptalk, it's crazy? It's like every sentence is a question?
This channel truly is a priceless resource. Much gratitude...
What a waste. There are starving children in Africa who could have eaten those bullets.
I’ve always been impressed with round balls. Especially the initial impact.
This guy is good and knowledgeable and puts on a professional presentation. I enjoyed watching this as a shooter and agree with what he has to say. And I have personally have had great success with the hard cast, gas check 240 gr bullets in a Deerfield 44 Ruger on hogs,
Seeing as to how the bloodiest war in our national history was fought with pure lead bullets and here and there, buckshot, I have never been one to go overboard for jacketed bullets. It still kills as well as it ever did. Pure lead is the best transmitter of shock, with or without expansion. I keep autoloaders for when the crap hits the fan blades and maybe the only kind of ammo around is jacketed. Practice revolver ammo is harder cast to shoot cleaner and cheaper (range lead, wheelweights, etc.) But for serious purposes the sheet lead say, from the walls around the X-ray department, etc. is what I need for the best hitting power. Plenty of time to clean the gun after the cops give it back, unless they run it through the chop saw after the inquest.
The basic 45 caliber 300 grain hardened lead with sabot for muzzle loaders do incredible damage and penetration on big game
With Buffalo Bore 9x18 "+P 115gr hard cast" loads in my CZ-82 I get 9x19 ballistics. It's incredible.
Shot some out of my Super Blackhawk those 340 grain Underwood are just plain awesome ! They will do what ever you want and then some.
Elmer Keith did a lot of research on hard cast bullets back in the 60s..... pretty much wrote the book on the subject...