youtube.com/@jeunese I don't know if you know this person but she seems to be reposting a lot of your stuff on her channel. I just thought you should be aware.
NJ-Types: "There are just two things in this world, being and not-being." Every other person: "What does this even mean?!" NJ-Types: "It means that we can lay back and relax."
17:06 17:06 17:06 17:06 what is this box in the corner and why am I in incognito again you hackers. Also, give me back all my art and writings I finally had time to do something with you plagiarising thieves
Frank, your child is ridiculously cute! (The 1.25 speed version of you felt weird, but I gladly listen to you at normal speed, because I'm being entertained and I also learn something new. Totally worth 17 minutes of my life.)
As an INTJ, one of my earliest memories of me realising that i think differently than others, is my constant need to get an overview on things in order to understand the details. i swear it made me feel stupid at times not understanding simple things everyone around me understands.
I study pharmacology. When we were in the first semester, we had a subject about the basics of biology and I couldn’t understand anything even though everyone around me seemed to find it easy. I mean, I could memorize every concept thrown at us, but if I didn’t understand were the connection was I would just erase the information. I started to love biology when we got to anatomy and I could finally see how all the organs and systems in the body relate to each other -INTJ
Same! I started loving law only after a few years when I could finally get an overview of the whole normative system, the different ways of interpreting texts and the political implications of it all. That is, after years of feeling dumb amongst an army of xSTJs being loud and conservative and thinking everyone should be like them...
I’m INTP and my coworker who I suspect is ISFJ, creates extremely detailed, step by step tutorials for work. I can work off them, but it doesn’t “click” for me until I zoom out and see why these steps are important and how they connect (which they don’t include). It’s a perfect example of our differences, even though we really mesh, personally
I have to understand how something is connected or it's purpose to be able to absorb the information. If not, mind just puts it aside. Like when I was in 4th grade and my teacher was trying to use the big 12 basketball thingy 😅, to teach something (I forgot the point). She wanted me to pick a random team, I couldn't pick one. I have never watched a basketball game of my own volition. I didn't know the stats of the teams or what their good qualities were, so my brain couldn't pick one. That frustrated the teacher so much. lol If I have nothing to connect information to, then my mind can't sort it and tosses it out. -sleepy INTP.
@@natashadavis2959 I’d be the same way, also knowing nothing about basketball. Do I just pick the tallest kids? Do certain positions need better runners? I hate not having the big picture and inadvertently fucking up
This is me too. I literally have my dream job… except when I have to assemble a visio about an unsolved problem. For me, being able to put together a flowchart is the epitome of complete and total understanding, not a step in the process. I tell people I don’t think linearly. My thought process is like throwing a cup of rocks into a pool- the create ripples, they create drops that create ripples, the ripples intersect and disrupt each other, some sink where they land, some roll around a little, some displace other rocks previously tossed in…. People don’t always see this about me because I’ve learned to keep my mouth shut until I can at least track the trajectory.
I can relate to that. At my workplace we have a lot of step by step guides, but no macro vision (where some activity fits in the whole work process); in the beginning I had a lot of trouble because I couldn't even start an activity if I didn't know why it was important. But I found out that many coworkers have the same problem, so at least I'm not alone 😅 ~INFP
@khiroe When I used to work in a grocery store, I'd train new bookkeepers on how to do the different tasks, but I'd also tell them *why* they were doing it and why some things had to be done a specific way. I feel like people learn better if they know the why as well as the what.
As an XNXP type I so often find myself starting from point A skipping to point E continuing on to a completely different topic only to lead it back to the original point A. Most people in my life are left without any clue what the heck am I talking about. With the exception of ENFPs and other INFPs, then the conversation flows pretty much naturally 😅
Same, honestly for a friend that barely understands how to traverse the sheer amount of abstract connections I make it’s more harmful than helpful so I’ve been ultimately simplifying what I try to explain or say even if it makes me feel like I haven’t 100% expressed what I mean
I wonder if this is why I find it so difficult to talk with most people except when I talk with my eldest sister and we constantly jump through dozens of topics with seemingly no end. I think my biggest problem with normal conversations is I see the different branching paths the conversation could take and want to do them all, but since that tends to make people lose interest I usually just don't talk at all. The other common problem being when someone says something and you immediately go though a few layers of association in your had and talk about subject F and they look at you like you are crazy, unfortunately walking through A, B, C, D and E before talking about F also exasperates people.
@KarlJeager Oh, I guess I am not the only one who does this one too 😁 In college,'random' was my second name. It wasn't random for me, but it seemed like it was for everybody else.
Your baby screen time is a pleasant surprise. So happy to see the baby! ☺️☺️ At first i thought this is a comedy sketch, turns out 16 personalities talka time. Very informative. Thank you for the video
You don't speak slow. When explaining abstract stuff it's important to use the right terminology to be clear, concise and avoid misunderstandings. That takes some brain power to formulate in a comprehensive way. What's the rush anyway? We are here to learn. Interesting topic today. More like this! 😊
As an INTJ i think of ever moment of music as a point in a multidimensional space and a piece of music in it’s entirety is the summation of the qualities of those points as well as the synergy between them (with points at beginning and end getting biased interest due to our perception). I have my preferences about certain properties i like in music (probably not the actual axis of the spectrum of music but more some kind of abstraction on top of them similar to a hidden layer of a neural network). These preferences are of course based on my skill as a musician and all of my life existences and beliefs. How much I like a piece of music is a continuous spectrum which is based on how much of the combinations align with the ones i like in the hidden layers (i say much rather than many because I feel it is a continuous spectrum not a bunch of discreet connections which the word connection slightly loses)…. Do i need help?? 😂
This explains to me why this history teacher was so popular in the sense that people thought he was a good teacher that made the stories interesting by giving loads of concrete examples and details.. As what I understood, most people are sensors. And I kinda lost my interest in it that year as I just didn't get the time period context anymore and the big overview of the significance of all these seperate happenings.. Which made it feel boring and harder to remember as an intuitive. Where I used to not even have to study for it in other years as for me the information I was told or had to read was easy to remember like remembering a fairytale that has a beginning and ending and a moral of the story.
My brother is an ENTP so he's got a million analogies flying around that never seem to connect, as an INTJ I always get frustrated because he over complicates things for no reason. This is a HUGE reason why we niggle each other a lot. I just never really realized its because he communicates with extraneous info and I communicate with the bare bones info.
😂as an ENTP married to an INTJ I can completely understand this. I annoy him all the freaking time with this exact quality. Lol I commonly hear “yeah, I get it” from him as an attempt to reign me in before I go too far all over the place. Also, I really appreciate his ability to concisely sum things up & will occasionally ask him to help me out with that.
@@ourcozycorner8517 LOL, I say "okay, I got it please stop now..." because if I don't it'll be a full convo about everything other than what was being discussed in the first place. I summarize what he's saying to make sure I understood him correctly, then I end the convo after that lol. He makes my head spin at times...
my best friend and I are the same except with F (i'm an ENFP and she's an INFJ) and we get this too, I'll ramble ab smth and relate it to other things and she stops me in my tracks to reduce it down to yes no simplicity and it pains me hahha, she'll think I'm overcomplicating and I'll think she's oversimplifying, or I'll be making a general broad statement/observation that she then tries to extrapolate detail/application to specific scenarios from the annoyance defo goes both ways and ik i can be a pain with my rambles too, i think from my ENFP side the crux of it is that the specific details are too zoomed in to acc represent what I'm saying, and it can easily mean she thinks I'm making a point that I'm completely not, or just thinks I'm making a point when I'm not even making a point I'm just mentioning things I've noticed our dynamic is amazing though, she's my best friend for a reason :)
As an ENTJ; I enjoy simplifying things where they can be simplified, but I also enjoy categorization where I see its value. I'm a Musicologist of Genre analysis. I love knowing what separates sounds and stylisms. Sometimes a topic or representation is so complex that the only way to simply it is by understanding it needs to have its own individual acknowledgement.
Dense and obscure. This explains why I can’t holdup a discussion unless people have an appetite for a good discussion. Videos are phenomenal, keep it up.
Premise: I am biased 😉 I love the *N*J type of communication. In order to make it as clear as I possibly can, I will use as many premises as necessary since I strive for people to understand what I mean (even the more complex topics). It doesn't always work, but I've been often told to have a great pedagogic approach😁
I prefer speaking this way to start and then once people understand what I mean, I start branching off. Talking to an ISTJ sort of made me feel like I had to simplify things in the hopes they didn't get confused by abstract topics which to NJs aren't that abstract.
My husband is an SP type and I’m an NJ. It used to drive me crazy how he would just keep giving details when I wasn’t even sure what he was talking about. Of course, people still sometimes have to ask me to clarify what I’m referring to for the opposite reason! We’ve both learned a lot from each other through, so it’s not nearly as common for us to confuse people than when we were newlyweds.
Hi Im INFJ from South Korea. Im not a native English speaker. Im glad you talk slow. So I can follow and enjoy your contents. Your contents helped me a lot to understand myself and other types of MBTI. Thank you!
NPs prefer more categorizations as opposed to less? I'd never noticed that or thought about it that way. But as an INFP, it definitely applies to me. I love delving into all of the personality subtypes like all the different combinations of MBTI and Enneagram, plus instinctual subtype, tri-type, all the different combinations of wings on all three fixes of the tri-type, etc. I don't understand people who say things like "we don't need all those categories" or "tri-type isn't important, focus on the core type," etc. I think that the more categories you can generate, the more capacity for nuance you can have.
I'm am infj and I've obssessed over music sub genres and categories more than anyone I know 😅 but it was all out of dedication and not because I love categorizing things into a 1000 categories. I have this Infp friend who do the exact same things that are mentioned in this video. Its just with him that I've found myself so obssessively bowling things down to basic categories because I really don't like that intensity of categorizing things all the time. Its like I know all the details but I always and always say the same phrase at the end of the convo: "and that's how these 100 music genres fall under this one category" So this seemed totally relatable 😅
INFJ too and I would dive deep into as many sub genres and categories as I can because of dedication , but to better gather it as larger categories after thanks to this acquired knowledge.
I’m so distracted by your ADORABLE BABY!!! 😍 And by the visual craziness of orange & purple together for 17 minutes🤪🧡💜 Now it makes sense why I (ENFP) can get overwhelmed to the point of paralysis when organizing items. I see a million subcategories and don’t know what to do with them. 🤯 Hubby (ENFJ) always breaks down everything into just a few categories. We drive each other crazy 😝 but also help each other out 😊
I REALLY needed to hear this. I'm an INFJ who writes. One of my beta readers nitpicks details when I want him to respond to the big picture. I love him, but he pisses me off. I finally found out that he's an ISTJ. Just knowing this helped me understand that he sees through a different set of lens than I do. Since I was no longer seeing only my limited perspective, I could appreciate his point of view which helps me improve my novels. Seeing this youtube video helps me even more. You give a clear and detailed explanation of how each type shares, analyses, and synthesizes information. It helps me appreciate my friend's point of view. Furthermore, it helps me realize how much better we could communicate if more people understood this stuff. Thanks, Frank Your baby is adorable. He was a cute break when you were flinging some intense information.
Could you perhaps do a similar video to this going into depth the differences between the decision making functions? You explain it really well and I’d like to send these videos to friends who are just starting out in MBTI
Thank you ! That is so true: I am ESFP and often when I explain something, people are saying that I talk too quickly and I say too many things. But for me, it's pretty clear ! 😃
This is so interesting, because I'm an infj in a very caring profession- and people often say I reduce things too much! And when I give it a try not to do that, it's awful, and completely unintelligible lol. Be good to see what type you become when trying to clarify things - I feel very SJ in communication when my NJ isn't working!
INFP here. Here's the real situation happen to me. I cook some porridge-like-dessert using banana. (I don't how to explain our traditional "pengat pisang" to you guys, so hopefully you get it.) I cook it in a big pot, and i want to transfer it to several small container so that I can chill it quickly and stored in fridge. The pot is quite hot even though I'm using cloth to hold it, and I can still feel the heat. So I just quickly pour into these small container until there's like remaining soup in the insides of the pot. I called my dumb ESTJ brother to help me pick up the spatula which is on the table, and like 'scoop' the remaining soup into the container. But the way I say it is like this: Me: Hey bro, help me out here..! Bro: What?? Me: The spatula...scoop...soup...pot. He legit pick up the spatula, scoop the soup from the container, back into the pot. I'm fuming. My fingers hot from holding the side handle of the pot. It is currently a hot day and I'm alone making that dessert in the kitchen sweating like crazy. My eczema is acting up so I feel itchy all over my body and this bich dare to piss me off. So I shout, he shouted back, my mom coming scold the both of us for being noisy in the house, so I just throw the pot into the sink at run into my room.😅 And mom is the one who tidy up all my mess in the kitchen and stored all the small containers into the fridge. Like I just don't know, my mind is in jumble at the time and suddenly cannot form a full sentence. I do feel bad for my brother but sometimes he deserve to be shouted at by me, ahahaha... And yeah, sometimes I can speak eloquently, but most of the times people need to understand my 'way' of speaking because you are not the only one that are having conversation with me. There's at least 2 people that keep on talking in my brain while I'm talking to you.
Yessss this lol! I always expect people to connect the dots for me . “I need the thing you know the scoopy rubber thing….you know…utensil” hahahaaaa Also that dish sounds really good!
This could also be a female thing. Women can say, “Hey, put the thing in the thing and then put it in the thing,” and another woman is likely to understand.
@@MaraschinoPenguin31415 I guess it depends on context. That reminds me of the trope where two women are crying and talking to each other in gibberish like sounds but they understand what each person is saying lol
I guess he didn't take the time to examine what you were doing but just immediately fulfilled your request. I think the addition of the word "out" may have corrected the problem by specifying a direction of travel since otherwise it is easy to identify the pot as the destination. Unfortunately for the brother in this situation, asking clarifying questions about what is going on also tend to annoy people especially if they are holding something hot or heavy.
Same here, mate. One moment I can be as eloquent as Shakespeare was, the next my brain refuses to form a coherent sentence and I end up sounding like a fool.
This explains a lot….I am an intj and I have very poor communication with the rest my family my mother being esfj, my uncle being esfp, my grandmother being esfp, my grandfather estj, and my brother estp. I don’t understand them, even though I try ,and they especially don’t understand me, thank the lord my father is also a intj or else I would never get a break from the si/se world.
as an ENFP with adhd (oh gOD) that has gotten into many long conversations that lose sight of the main point because they got reaaaally abstract, everything you said checks out.
Omg... It's the most accurate and understandable explanation in MY WHOLE LIFE!!! My examples: 1. ISFJ (my aunt) She really do like you said. When we're talking, she give the examples-stories on a specific topic. Like, if we were talking ab dancing, she started to give example ab her nephew, who is dancing, in all details (like why, when,where) 2. ISFP(my cousin)/ESFP(she's my best friend-seatmate) They like to say something or stories just out of nowhere. Like we were talking ab something, and for example at pause at our conversation, they say the random story. Like, they just remembered the "important" thing, so they need to tell it))) 3. INFP (me:)/ENFP (my mum) Yeah, totally true. I can talk ab something, than remember something alse, what I think is related to this topic, and than I remember something alse to this theme...and so on ad infinitum) In the end, I can say like "... Wait. About what we were talking at the beginning?..." (usually its happen when I'm talking with my mum...explainable tho) 4. ENFJ (my dad) I think yes. He really "put everything in one bowl" when talk ab things:) Sooo, I want to admit, imo this chanal is the best about MBTI. Funny/smart/ and the main - understandable contant))) Tysm for videos♡♡♡
That was a great video! The SJ examples you gave vis a vis your professors is something I struggle with a lot too (INFP). There is a a great exercise used in teacher training to demonstrate why context and overview (also related to modelling and scaffolding when teaching) are important. It's called nine lines, and basically you give students specific instructions to draw nine lines that are supposed to make a house e.g. 1. draw a vertical line. 2. draw another vertical line to the right of the first one, not as tall. 3. draw a third vertical line, further to the right, as tall as the first one. What happens is that students always come up with a wide range of shapes and objects, none of them looking like a house. But, if you first show them what the house is supposed to look like and what the point of the exercise is, and then give them the same instructions, they all come up with a similar-looking house.
That's because the instructions you outlined were crappy and not specific enough. If you specified sufficiently clear instructions, such as, for example, "draw a straight line (potentially specify the length of the line with a standardized measuring unit like centimeters or establish an acceptable range for it) horizontally, then from the left end of the line, draw a straight line upwards in a manner that starts but in which the second line still connects from its beginning to the left end of the first line, then...". That way, you could optimize and attain the precise result you wanted as long person followed instructions. You could even allow multiple differing possibilities by giving a range of acceptable parameters and even communicating instructions in the form of a flowchart (a more complex one could allow many differing results that would still be considered acceptable as long as a specific path on such a complex flowchart is followed).
@@nagatouzumaki3492 that’s partly the point though - if you give this type of instruction the level of precise detail needed is high. An overview, context and example can be more efficient at a student level.
@@laron2239 Not necessarily, and depending on what you mean by that the level of precise detail needed is high. The amount of detail required to convey will vary depending on the degree of complexity of what you're intending to instruct the person to do. If, as you pointed out, you seek to draw fairly simple approximations of houses that amount to several straight lines, then instructions while requiring more detail than you provided would still be fairly small and would require more proper articulation than a lot of detail. However, if you intended to draw a more sophisticated drawing, then there would be a lot of instructions and a lot of details resembling more accurate depictions of houses (be they specific or in general concept of houses) to take care of to arrive at a specific result (or their range) that is acceptable; however, the result as noted would be far more accurate to what's desired conclusion than relying on a vague concept of houses. The problem with lack of detail is that oftentimes I've noticed it leads to struggling with concepts, especially complex ones, and correctly identifying things as belonging to a specific category. If you break concepts (or the thing that concepts refer to) into their components (details), then you can communicate with high accuracy the things you're saying (at least as long as you establish common definitions of words that have such precisely defined concepts that refer to particular things). Problem with intuitive: they are a lot of times sloppy even with concepts (both intuitive and sensors will rely on concepts, but sensors will attempt to root those in physical, and in the case of Si, to do so very precisely), while intuitive rely more on intuition, making concepts more vague and, I would say, fuzzy (for example, the concept or definition of heap, which fails to establish boundaries as to when grains of X (sand, rice, etc.) stack on one another and become heap). This is even an issue in academic environments, where fair amounts of academic struggle to define the concept of women in a coherent way and collapse when one asks a seemingly simple question like "What is a woman?" lacking a coherent concept of woman defined by a set of criteria necessary for a thing to be a woman, thus preventing, in any sense, being able to effectively categorize things. Now, mind you, this is not a problem with intuitives only, because sensors will also struggle with that unless a sufficient amount of time is dedicated to the intellectual sphere (as this seems to be the issue of the majority of people). However, even if you do dedicate a lot time to the intellectual sphere it will simply reduce issue of precision than eliminate it completely and even then there is gap between struggle with precision in natural languages as they practically develop and implementing more precise formal language for people to use (which would help to reduce a lot of confusion and misunderstanding in communication). So overall issue is that such imprecision in understanding of concept of house leads to problems down the line (and even outright when you want accuracy and avoid/reduce misunderstandings in communication). For example if I asked someone to draw me a house, someone could intuit it as couple of lines as you noted, when I wanted them to draw sophisticated representation of a house or vice versa.
Sounds to me like extraverted intuition is the language of the gurmans. The chocolate has a taste of nuts, cherries and coconut... No boy, tastes like chocolate to me. A really good one to be exact 😅 - an INFJ
As a person who uses Ne often, I must say that I understand more what Se and Si are talking about, rather than Ni... and you summed it up really well in this video.
As an Ni dominant (Se inferior) I personally find myself irritated by the way sensors aren't more abstract in their thinking/commutation. It's overly simplified, I always prefer intuitive people.
@@alivc2458 Well, yes, I communicate the best with other Ne, but Ni is another kettle of fish. At least the S are direct and therefore understandable most of the time, whereas Ni are generally not understandable, because they most of the time think in abstract, but are "unable to put it into words" or so they say. I'm sorry Vanessa, this is of course nothing personal since I don't know you. I am talking in general.
As an infp woman i sent this to my estj husband for him to understand 👍🏻 we usually watch your videos on infp and estj's 😁 thank you so much for explaining it so well 🫶💜 your kid is adorable btw 😍😍
I'm intj. I work closely with an estj. To me his analogies are so factually close the actual situation - comparing a work team with a soccer team. I'm like 'why bother with an analogy!'
INFP here with an INTJ mom, and two ISTJ sisters. As much as i may butt heads with my mom, she understands me far better than my sisters. We also believe that we all are on the autism spectrum, so that definitely affects communication as well. My abstract connections wow other people because they would never think to put such thoughts or ideas together. My mom can be pretty abstract too, which is why i think we communicate better. Whereas my younger (by 16 years) ISTJ sister who shows very very strong tendency to autism is so literal and has to speak about what is exactly happening in front of her, which gets on my nerves sometimes, lol. My other ISTJ sister is also pretty blunt and straightforward, but i think she understands me a little better simply because we are only 4 years apart and grew up together. My dad i believe is either ISTP or ISFP or maybe ISFJ, but i think he might be more P just because of how he talks. It's not like my two sisters, nor like my mom, nor like me. And he is definitely introverted. Our communication isnt the greatest, but it is more because we just dont talk. When we do, he definitely is an S, and our conversations don't go very far because of how strongly I am on the abstract and he is on the non abstract.
I'm an INFP and I'm pretty sure my dad was an ISTP as well. We hardly ever spoke to each other either. But when he did try to teach me stuff it would be way too much information with all the jargon you don't learn until you're a specialist. He was a heavy equipment mechanic instructor in the military. So I would mostly nod along as though I understood any of the words he was saying 😂 I also grew up with all sisters (there was four of us) so I get how crazy it can be. I had two extroverts in my family so I can't imagine what it would be like to grow up with all introverts. Mom is definitely an ENTP, and my sisters are INFJ, INTP, and I think ESTP but I'm not sure haha. I didn't get along with my INTP sister until we grew up, and I got along well with my ESTP sister until we grew up. So, that's weird.
yeah i'm an enfp, moms isfp so we don't talk very long either, and my enfj dad can definitely condense things and situations like when we get in trouble that i don't think apply's enough, to try and be fair with seeing faults in more than one of us when getting in trouble and feeling like it's on the same playing field when it isn't to over correct not playing favorites
infp too and my younger sister is istj. i couldnt figure out why we find a hard time getting along until i found out she was an istj. a week ago i was trying to help her come up with ideas on her art project and she had such a hard time understanding how my ideas fit into her prompt when they weren't literal representations of it. she often looks at me like im crazy lol. then she especially disses me when im doing something and very easily identifies whenever im doing it the hard way. and somehow im always doing it the hard way and i never notice. to be honest i dont even care as long as i get it done but she thinks i just purposely make my life harder for myself for no reason. at least we are both super introverted so we are at peace with keeping to ourselves lol
Aw Gawd, the SP info dumps 😅 now I know why I struggled so hard on my thesis, my mind was going all “NOT ENOUGH DETAIL” even when my supervisor’s face was saying “maybe you could streamline this, it doesn’t make sense as is” -ISTP
I'm an ISTJ, and as much as I love the details, I learned to whittle them down to what's necessary because my ENTJ father was always very irritated by them. "What's the bottom line?" he always says.
That's probably because he needed to hear the why first. But sometimes it's hard to get to the why first when you're still working that out. Some people don't have the patience to understand that some people need to think out loud or are open to revising their thoughts as they receive feedback simultaneously.
@@olive4naito He likes a one-sentence summary of everything. Once he has that, he's done, and his eyes glaze over. He won't even hear the details that follow. If you give him details first with no context, he gets very flustered and a little angry. He ALWAYS hates the details (Si blind spot).
Thanks FJ for helping us understanding the differences between sensing and Intuitive types. Oh didn't expect to see the cutie pie that is you baby. omg so cute hehe
That was cool! I like that you went into specific details about abstract vs. concrete. Helping out the people! 😆 This is helpful for understanding types other than your own, and seeing how they communicate. I will save this for future reference. I just have one question: Who was your handsome young co-star? Hehe. Nice to see he's growing and healthy! Thanks for everything, Frank!☺️✌️
As an ESFJ (SJ type), yes I look for Si details and you will find me expressing in Si details. I've done interviews on UA-cam as an ESFJ, and I always use concrete examples and analogies to prove my points. Especially when trying to explain Fe. Sometimes someone will ask me a simple question like, "Is he coming?". Instead of me answering either yes or no, I give paragraphs of details why or why not lol
To be honest, his speaking speed is perfect for someone who is learning English like me. In addition, it's blessing that he has prepared substitle for every video. Awesome!
Yes! My dad does the SJ type things so much (he is ISTJ). He gives me a bunch of stuff and info and when I ask “…why?” he’ll get impatient and tell me to just “trust him”. I ask “why” a lot without knowing and sometimes he just resorts to saying “no why”. I’m like, okay if theres no reason then what’s the point?
As an INTP, when presenting a report in front of the class, I always get the main idea of the topics and rephrase it in a way that is it shorter than the ones in the sources. After reporting, my teacher will be like "So where is the detail of this topic?". And I was like "I summarized them all, ma'am. The idea is that blah blah blah..." But then she said "It will appear on the tests. It needs to be there." I got a low score on that report.
The different colored marker coloring did help! Oh my gosh. That poor horse in that analogy. Never gonna complain about my bicycle seat again. Also, ok, it's more than likely I'm not having a Tyler Durden-esque break from reality with these edited in short scenes since while 2 times a pattern does not make, this is the 3rd time you've shown your little angel and all 3 times I read the comments to make sure people were seeing what I was seeing. Hope you, your wife, and awwwesome son are well! This is perfect. Please keep this orange background clear, concise, sincere style (since with how my comments usually go, you'll see why I admire it!). My favorite lesson was the "Iceberg" because it was helpful heads up in general for going too deep in fandom recognizing the health and social repercussions with going to far in any hobby, but for MBTI lessons, well, the current thing on my mind tends to be my favorite while processing it, so, this....and the last one are my favorites since I couldn't remember what horror movies you were talking about. haha I just remembered after seeing this video's thumbnail, I gave "Lost in Translation" a 10/10 back when I had a different criteria on a quality film when younger, and it might have been even one I liked for myself instead trying to impartially think what others might like, but I can't tell you a single thing about it other than Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson were in it. Which, not anymore, I have a list of greatest films, but somehow connects to giving "Almost Famous" a 10/10 as well and was trying to remember what that had to do with you (maybe you were wondering too!), and then I remembered because I just saw "Zoolander" for the first time and discovered where you got your "I'm not your brah" ESTP segment, wait, hang on, earlier I wrote a Harry Potter length novel...never mind, that's not fair making a comparison to a good book haha...I want to re-read those because people were bashing them but it might be more of the symbol they represented at the time politically, and previously I could understand if real spells were used and parents were concerned but remembered a criticism about the kids being against authority when, at least from my memory of the movie, one of the kids who was presented as being on the heroic side Neville was rewarded for his obedience, and the heroes were reprimanded for their breaking rules, and I don't know if people were thinking there was a metaphor for ends justifying the means theme or going so logical missing certain details for context...but I went to the midnight release for the final 7th book and I loved reading them back then. Need to re-read Lord of the Rings first but every time I tried to read it as an adult, I struggled because of all the detail, and even when I was a kid considering it my favorite book thought there was too much. Wait, no Stinky Cheese man was...I mean, I just looked up the imdb of "Almost Famous" and can't remember the movie but I'm guessing the connection with Zoolander is that it might have been a commentary on celebrity culture, and thinking about how too much examination within certain contexts can lead to nihilism (that might have been a concern about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood but I really liked it) which I was thinking about with your poll regarding changing the past and how technically use of time travel is nihilistic but if the narrator presents it in a certain way where the audience is directed toward focusing on something like friends fighting to save their village and order their hearts in a heroic direction after a fall from grace, as long as the characters are well developed and creators don't make it out like they are arbiters of virtue and there's stunning visuals, performances, music, camera work, so the time travel is just a fun narrative device to mix things up....or if the there's plenty of other science fiction stories to balance it such as, the first, Frankenstein, being elevated in the culture for showing there's actual repercussions for prideful playing God scientific pursuits... Ok, after, happily, listening to your video at normal speed, don't think I'm naturally comfortable like an Ni type since I tend to go off the rails, and that might be a bit why, besides lack of time, appreciate listening at higher speeds since my mind goes all over the place so if I listen to something at 3.5x speed, easier to focus. But, here, you brought the visuals and your information pacing was excellent! Just have to process it. Watched some of it with my friend before we had to go, but my friend told me to pause your video even before that point to say that were were both "N"s. But need to finish! Hope you and your family have a great day!
as an infj i can confirm. sometimes when people come to me for an advice i give them the idea of how simple the problem actually is. for me people are often just trying to think of many details of the issue, which isnt really helping them
😭😭 same as an IN(T), i like more understanding the bone structure but i hate when i do not focus on details, which at the same time, i also hate focusing on details, which sucks sometimes
Yes, I love the details and understand them, but sometimes I sweat them and make things difficult for me, so a conversation with my friend from infj often solves the problem 😁
SJ type married to NP type. You’ve just described my entire marriage. It’s been fun. He feels like I take forever to get to the point, and I get frustrated that he leaves out so many details. 🤣
wow this video is so informative Frank! I am ENFP and it makes sense why I do easily get bored of my Sensor friends (I love them, but they tire me with details.)
This is accurate, I’m an intj and my friend is an isfp. Most of our disagreements come from our different studying methods. Making school projects together isn’t my favorite thing to do, to say the least
I'm an ISFJ and my friend is ESFP. Every time she tells a story or explains something I'm like “What?”. She always leaves out important details and context. So I let her tell the story as she likes and then make her tell it again, but I'm guiding it and ask for the details I feel are missing. When I tell the story she usually does other things at the same time. 😅
I think you talked about the single versions of the types. I'd like to see the in-relationship versions of the type, as well. How each type will be as a partner theoretically? What they can provide for you, for example... What they can't, and many other things.
Everyone's different, not sure if that kind of video is possible. For example I'm ISTP, supposedly. Me, fixing things? Yeah, no... maybe if I had normal childhood or when I start living alone. Max I can do is PCs. Communication part, true what he said, I give information, but too randomly not structured. Thus I even avoid giving any information or asking questions. Recently made a PC build for a customer, haven't done that for a looooong time. Oh god I had so hard time to get courage to call and try to explain PCs current state or what changes we should do and then here I go rebuilding again :/
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 That's why I add the word "theoretically" in between my words. As you said above, making a detailed video in this case is impossible, but as Frank did in these series (for example, how each type act when they like someone), a general idea wouldn't hurt, not that it could be the solid truth for everyone in the type :)
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 Also, no, just because you're an ISTP, you're not supposed to fix things, mate. Stereotypes usually work for a great number of people in a system. Still, you're a human being, designed way more complicated than those systems.
Awesome video Frank! What you discussed here is perfect when looking for ways to apply MBTI to our everyday life. Could you do another one like this for Thinking vs Feeling ?
I am the most hardcore intuitive while my bf is hardcore sensing. The beginning of our relationship was very aggressive and stressful and mindnumbing for both of us because we couldnt go 3 seconds without losing our shit over constant frustrating misunderstandings. Then I spotted and developed an understanding of what was going on, but being an intuitive type i really couldnt explain it to him well and he didnt believe/understand anything i was saying at first. But over time we both learned to come over to the others side a bit more, and once i was able to communicate the sensing/intuition thing, our interactions over time became totally effortless (with a lot of work). The fact we are both highly empathetic people with a dedicated sense of altruism is the only way it could have worked though.
As an XNXP type, I now understand why my friends who are very likely not XNXP types do not understand the connections I try to make with what they are telling me so they often say "You're getting out of topic" when i'm not, I just make abstract connections.
To the other INFJs here: I struggle with communicating my ideas to other people. It's often too dense and complex and people tend to not be able to follow. To those of you who have stuggled with this as well. How are you overcoming this? Do you have any advice for me?
You can get a friend with a different communication style, and have them help you? I’m an ISTP, but one of my best friends is an INFJ, and I know she sometimes has me listen to her entire take on something, and then give her a greatly shortened version of her perspective. In general, I can only assume you communicate like my INFJ friend, so I can suggest that usually, you are greatly overestimating the amount of context required to convey your point. If left to her own devices, my INFJ friend will start to answer a question with context for her answer, and then start to provide context for her context, and 30 minutes later, I’m not sure how she still hasn’t answered a yes/no question. 😅
I'm an INFJ who struggles with a similar thing. There is no one in the world who understands all my thoughts or opinions, so sometimes I feel lonely. But I've learned that communicating at least part of your idea with people close to you helps. Yes, sometimes it is disappointing to be misunderstood, but at least you will not feel alone, cause at least you can talk to someone and sometimes you will feel that your loved ones do understand and support you (of course, if they are willing to really listen to you from the beginning).
It is a common struggle for us INFJs I have learned to either break it down into steps to describe or to explain the main point and then go back in to clarify later
This kind of breakdown video is always so fun cuz I can think of real people I know and type them as SJ/SP/NJ/NP (for the most obvious cases) Most of my teachers are clearly SP but I can think of one teacher who seems A LOT like an SJ. I'm an NP and that checks out. But I don't know that many NJs (or at least beyond surface level).
His little face taking everything in 🥰 really sweet 😄😊 I really appreciate the slower videos! 😅 felt a sense of calm as soon as you said at the beginning lol! Loved the structure! Really easy to understand! And enjoyable, it felt effortless to watch 😊 Also, the bit about building the scenes and only being told each step 🙈 I really wouldn't have enjoyed that lol! I had that feeling a lot going through Uni 😅 it pains me to think how much less stressed I could have been with a little more overview 🙈
If you're looking for an example on how intuitive types mess up their communication (generalities, overviews) - just look at FJ's educational vids from 1-2 years ago 💀 very few ejemplos.
I'm from the deep south and I greatly appreciate that you speak slowly. 😊 You're baby is adorable by the way!! I'm INFJ and I was horrible at analogies in school. No matter how hard I tried I always got them wrong. Any other INFJ have that problem?
That's so funny, I was actually just explaining to my mother this morning the difference between N and S types. Thanks for this video! I will make sure to share it with her.
This honestly really helped me confirm I'm a high Si user. I've been studying MBTI for quite a while now, but never have I understood the exact difference between the concrete and the abstract. Finally someone who explains it by using examples, makes me understand it a lot better! I can definitely relate to the 'Si users use personal details while explaining a lengthy, detailed story', people usually get distracted when I talk lol
Yeah, as an ISTJ I always feel like I need to give out all of the details when asked about how my day went and even feel a sort of pressure that I might not remember all of them and tiredness to list them all while my mum is like “but you dont need to, just give me the important bits” and I say “but you need the context to understand the important bits” Hell, sometimes what even is important? A lot of events in a typical day dont matter more than as minor data point on the humans involved and for the concrete execution of the task at hand or whatever. As FJ said, we really trust the facts but leave people to come to their own conclusion about their meaning, maybe as a way to check ourselves as well, especially socially where the lack of Fe in my case can really make people tough to predict
when you were talking about building sets. it reminded me of an exercise in elementary school- we had to explain to our teacher how to draw a box. And you would say draw a line and she would just draw a very long, messy line…. It was just teaching us how to be more specific in our words I suppose. I find , if I’m thinking about too much at once I will start explaining something to someone but start in the middle of my thought and confuse the heck out of everyone. I am an intuitive, so maybe we are all like that? Your little guy is getting so big!!!! He Is too cute for words. When he was looking at himself, it reminded me of how we used to do mirror time for my niece, and she would just get so excited to see her reflection. She would try to give the mirror a hug…
OMG that red hair! So adorable. I was laughing with the examples. As an INFP, that Ne description is spot on! I've learned to clarify and reduce, but if I'm passionate about a subject, it's overload time. 😂
Fantastic content! This video shed so much light on how to bridge the communication gap with some of the people around me. This content is GOLD. Keep up the good work!
Your son is super cute 😍 I am like a game of charades. I give clues as to what I'm talking about when I can't remember the actual name. My kids are really good at it ❤
The sensors telling you details of what to do but you not understanding is so relatable to me as my mother is an ESFJ in an intuitive family,she tells us exactly what to do but we still just stand confused(I am an ENFP,my brother is INTJ,my father is ENFJ)
While listening to you talk I was wondering about your son and how big he could be now, seconds after you gave me the answer 😄 Hope you are all doing well, thanks for the video!
This is the first time I haven’t had to slow down a video to understand you😀. This was helpful, so NP complicate ideas and NJ simplify ideas. I’m an SP, I do throw out random info, then use short analogies when I think I’m not being understood. It would make more sense to use A for abstract, C for concrete, V for values, L for logic, and O for open ended .That would make me a ICVO! Introverted, concrete, Values oriented, Open, rather than ISFP
In fact, the most difficult thing for me is to understand people with prevailing thinking. And in turn, it is difficult for such people to understand me, with prevailing feelings. Why do I react so emotionally to many events? Why do I give in to emotions in the first place instead of solving problems? And why is it so hard for them to understand that their actions and words can upset me, even if they do it for my well-being? Although I understand that all people have feelings, I often face miscommunication in this regard. INFJ
My younger brother is an ESTP and constantly communicates in these detailed but seemingly unconnected snippets. He'll ask for rides places and just leave it at, "Can you take me to [ ] at [ ] time?" As an INTJ my immediate knee jerk reaction is almost always, "Why are you going? Who are you meeting? What are you doing? Etc." Without the ability to categorize what he's trying to accomplish in any meaningful way, I am at a complete loss, haha
8:04 I feel so called out 😂 that's exactly what happened, my friend (who was also the wedding decorator) wanted to know the theme, colours, which flower I wanted in the altar, which fabric for the runner, and I was like "nothing fancy, just pretty" 😅 she still says my wedding was one of the hardest for her to plan because I wouldn't give her any specifics (I'm INFP and I think she's ESFJ)
I’m an ENFP with two ESFJ parents and we completely miss each other all the time. They’re confused with what I’m saying because it’s too broad, and I’m confused or zoned out when they’re talking, because half of the details in their stories aren’t relevant to the point they’re making
This video explains intuition v sensing in a way that I’ve never been able to conceptualize myself thank you so much 😪 Ive driven myself crazy trying to explain it to people so many times lmfao. Honestly THE best example I’ve seen hands down
hey frank, good video!! ok gotta work backwards here......as an infp, when u said how many music genres are there i immediately felt my brain go 😲😲😲 and how the crap does one answer that ginormous question?! lol, so, spot on there. then, buggie is getting so big!! good to see him......super adorable!! ❤❤❤ then, i have two sisters, an isfj and esfj. i sent them a pic of a new airport bathrm with a fire alarm up on the wall behind the toilet saying it wld scare the crap outta me if it went off....me being my infp hypothetical self. isfj sis says where's the toilet?? (it was slightly out of frame but clearly reflected on back wall) and esfj sis says why is there a fire alarm in the bathroom?? both solidly sensor type responses. lol. so funny to see the different interpretations, and in agreement with the info you presented. 😁💯
I love watching your informational videos! Could you do one on how the different thinking and feeling types miscommunicate or maybe one on how IP EP EJ and IJ types think differently!
I think you did a great job at explaining how NJ types process informations. It's actually not that hard to understand when you get that's the contrary to NP types. Very scattered versus very focused.
I love that you're giving me concrete words to talk about all this. It's hard to explain these things more concretely so that everyone understands. #Nissues Also 15:10 so is how I think as an ENFP hahahaha
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Great information. I was just thinking last night that intuition is the function that accesses the subconscious. What do you think?
Just curious what personality type are you?
@@INFPGingerbread Who, Me? Can you guess my type using Science? lol
Really helpful! Thank you
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I don't know if you know this person but she seems to be reposting a lot of your stuff on her channel. I just thought you should be aware.
NJ-Types: "There are just two things in this world, being and not-being."
Every other person: "What does this even mean?!"
NJ-Types: "It means that we can lay back and relax."
free therapy for chronically overwhelmed NPs
@@SirenSunshine That's why you guys go for us
😆That is the question! 💀
INFJ here. That strangely spoke to me....
17:06 17:06 17:06 17:06 what is this box in the corner and why am I in incognito again you hackers. Also, give me back all my art and writings I finally had time to do something with you plagiarising thieves
Frank, your child is ridiculously cute! (The 1.25 speed version of you felt weird, but I gladly listen to you at normal speed, because I'm being entertained and I also learn something new. Totally worth 17 minutes of my life.)
I always skip sensors and was lowkey puzzled what baby are people mentioning in the comments. 😀
As an INTJ, one of my earliest memories of me realising that i think differently than others, is my constant need to get an overview on things in order to understand the details. i swear it made me feel stupid at times not understanding simple things everyone around me understands.
I study pharmacology. When we were in the first semester, we had a subject about the basics of biology and I couldn’t understand anything even though everyone around me seemed to find it easy. I mean, I could memorize every concept thrown at us, but if I didn’t understand were the connection was I would just erase the information. I started to love biology when we got to anatomy and I could finally see how all the organs and systems in the body relate to each other
-INTJ
@@david34nl96 Exactly , i feel relieved to know why i was like that and also find out others relate to that too.
Same! I started loving law only after a few years when I could finally get an overview of the whole normative system, the different ways of interpreting texts and the political implications of it all.
That is, after years of feeling dumb amongst an army of xSTJs being loud and conservative and thinking everyone should be like them...
Exactly!
Bro I am your opposite entj myself
Woah, it does sound better at 1.5x, like seriously, it doesn’t even sound weird at all.
i accidentally discovered this which is why i decided to recommend it 😅
And that's the reason I watch them at double the speed
@@gogo-vi2jp I did that too lol, and that’s when it started to sound a little different, but it’s still very understandable.
1.75 is the best
I do 1.75/2x most of the time.
I’m INTP and my coworker who I suspect is ISFJ, creates extremely detailed, step by step tutorials for work. I can work off them, but it doesn’t “click” for me until I zoom out and see why these steps are important and how they connect (which they don’t include). It’s a perfect example of our differences, even though we really mesh, personally
I have to understand how something is connected or it's purpose to be able to absorb the information. If not, mind just puts it aside.
Like when I was in 4th grade and my teacher was trying to use the big 12 basketball thingy 😅, to teach something (I forgot the point). She wanted me to pick a random team, I couldn't pick one. I have never watched a basketball game of my own volition. I didn't know the stats of the teams or what their good qualities were, so my brain couldn't pick one. That frustrated the teacher so much. lol
If I have nothing to connect information to, then my mind can't sort it and tosses it out.
-sleepy INTP.
@@natashadavis2959 I’d be the same way, also knowing nothing about basketball. Do I just pick the tallest kids? Do certain positions need better runners? I hate not having the big picture and inadvertently fucking up
This is me too. I literally have my dream job… except when I have to assemble a visio about an unsolved problem. For me, being able to put together a flowchart is the epitome of complete and total understanding, not a step in the process. I tell people I don’t think linearly. My thought process is like throwing a cup of rocks into a pool- the create ripples, they create drops that create ripples, the ripples intersect and disrupt each other, some sink where they land, some roll around a little, some displace other rocks previously tossed in…. People don’t always see this about me because I’ve learned to keep my mouth shut until I can at least track the trajectory.
I can relate to that. At my workplace we have a lot of step by step guides, but no macro vision (where some activity fits in the whole work process); in the beginning I had a lot of trouble because I couldn't even start an activity if I didn't know why it was important. But I found out that many coworkers have the same problem, so at least I'm not alone 😅
~INFP
@khiroe When I used to work in a grocery store, I'd train new bookkeepers on how to do the different tasks, but I'd also tell them *why* they were doing it and why some things had to be done a specific way. I feel like people learn better if they know the why as well as the what.
Aww, I always love seeing your baby, Frank. He'll likely grow up to be as hilarious as you are!
Thanks for sharing, Trina.
@@m2pozad Bitter.
As an XNXP type I so often find myself starting from point A skipping to point E continuing on to a completely different topic only to lead it back to the original point A. Most people in my life are left without any clue what the heck am I talking about.
With the exception of ENFPs and other INFPs, then the conversation flows pretty much naturally 😅
Same, honestly for a friend that barely understands how to traverse the sheer amount of abstract connections I make it’s more harmful than helpful so I’ve been ultimately simplifying what I try to explain or say even if it makes me feel like I haven’t 100% expressed what I mean
I wonder if this is why I find it so difficult to talk with most people except when I talk with my eldest sister and we constantly jump through dozens of topics with seemingly no end. I think my biggest problem with normal conversations is I see the different branching paths the conversation could take and want to do them all, but since that tends to make people lose interest I usually just don't talk at all.
The other common problem being when someone says something and you immediately go though a few layers of association in your had and talk about subject F and they look at you like you are crazy, unfortunately walking through A, B, C, D and E before talking about F also exasperates people.
@KarlJeager Oh, I guess I am not the only one who does this one too 😁 In college,'random' was my second name. It wasn't random for me, but it seemed like it was for everybody else.
as an enfp, yes.
Yeah, this ENFP would understand 😂
Your baby screen time is a pleasant surprise. So happy to see the baby! ☺️☺️
At first i thought this is a comedy sketch, turns out 16 personalities talka time. Very informative. Thank you for the video
4:43 Aww, cuteness overload is back! 💜💜💜
Yeah I couldn’t resist 😁
Your speed of speaking is perfect for non-native English speakers to understand (such as me) :)
You don't speak slow. When explaining abstract stuff it's important to use the right terminology to be clear, concise and avoid misunderstandings. That takes some brain power to formulate in a comprehensive way. What's the rush anyway? We are here to learn. Interesting topic today. More like this! 😊
As an INTJ, there are only 2 categories of music : 1) music I like and 2) everything else which is garbage. 😂
As an INTJ i think of ever moment of music as a point in a multidimensional space and a piece of music in it’s entirety is the summation of the qualities of those points as well as the synergy between them (with points at beginning and end getting biased interest due to our perception). I have my preferences about certain properties i like in music (probably not the actual axis of the spectrum of music but more some kind of abstraction on top of them similar to a hidden layer of a neural network). These preferences are of course based on my skill as a musician and all of my life existences and beliefs. How much I like a piece of music is a continuous spectrum which is based on how much of the combinations align with the ones i like in the hidden layers (i say much rather than many because I feel it is a continuous spectrum not a bunch of discreet connections which the word connection slightly loses)….
Do i need help?? 😂
@@BaptistPiano you're not wrong.
This explains to me why this history teacher was so popular in the sense that people thought he was a good teacher that made the stories interesting by giving loads of concrete examples and details.. As what I understood, most people are sensors. And I kinda lost my interest in it that year as I just didn't get the time period context anymore and the big overview of the significance of all these seperate happenings.. Which made it feel boring and harder to remember as an intuitive. Where I used to not even have to study for it in other years as for me the information I was told or had to read was easy to remember like remembering a fairytale that has a beginning and ending and a moral of the story.
story of my life
My brother is an ENTP so he's got a million analogies flying around that never seem to connect, as an INTJ I always get frustrated because he over complicates things for no reason. This is a HUGE reason why we niggle each other a lot. I just never really realized its because he communicates with extraneous info and I communicate with the bare bones info.
niggle?
😂as an ENTP married to an INTJ I can completely understand this. I annoy him all the freaking time with this exact quality. Lol I commonly hear “yeah, I get it” from him as an attempt to reign me in before I go too far all over the place. Also, I really appreciate his ability to concisely sum things up & will occasionally ask him to help me out with that.
@@ourcozycorner8517 LOL, I say "okay, I got it please stop now..." because if I don't it'll be a full convo about everything other than what was being discussed in the first place. I summarize what he's saying to make sure I understood him correctly, then I end the convo after that lol. He makes my head spin at times...
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my best friend and I are the same except with F (i'm an ENFP and she's an INFJ) and we get this too, I'll ramble ab smth and relate it to other things and she stops me in my tracks to reduce it down to yes no simplicity and it pains me hahha, she'll think I'm overcomplicating and I'll think she's oversimplifying, or I'll be making a general broad statement/observation that she then tries to extrapolate detail/application to specific scenarios from
the annoyance defo goes both ways and ik i can be a pain with my rambles too, i think from my ENFP side the crux of it is that the specific details are too zoomed in to acc represent what I'm saying, and it can easily mean she thinks I'm making a point that I'm completely not, or just thinks I'm making a point when I'm not even making a point I'm just mentioning things I've noticed
our dynamic is amazing though, she's my best friend for a reason :)
As an ENTJ; I enjoy simplifying things where they can be simplified, but I also enjoy categorization where I see its value.
I'm a Musicologist of Genre analysis. I love knowing what separates sounds and stylisms.
Sometimes a topic or representation is so complex that the only way to simply it is by understanding it needs to have its own individual acknowledgement.
Im a musician. Id like to learn more about your studies. ISTJ btw
How many personalities does it take to screw it all up for everyone? Just one.
How do I sabotage a communication? No, I don't sabotage it because I don't use it at all XD
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Aren’t you communicating right now? I’d say your skills are pretty sufficient- INTP
Imposter
As always, this video is as informative as it is entertaining. PS: your baby is big and thank you for proudly showing yourself with him
thank you!
Dense and obscure. This explains why I can’t holdup a discussion unless people have an appetite for a good discussion. Videos are phenomenal, keep it up.
4:42 Cute❤
9:07 Also cute💛
Premise: I am biased 😉
I love the *N*J type of communication. In order to make it as clear as I possibly can, I will use as many premises as necessary since I strive for people to understand what I mean (even the more complex topics).
It doesn't always work, but I've been often told to have a great pedagogic approach😁
Facts 💯
Good for teaching
I prefer speaking this way to start and then once people understand what I mean, I start branching off. Talking to an ISTJ sort of made me feel like I had to simplify things in the hopes they didn't get confused by abstract topics which to NJs aren't that abstract.
@@olive4naito I know the feeling 😅🙌
Thank you so much. Was waiting for this moment for years 🥺 #breakthrough #finallyunderstandingthedifferencebetweenthefunctions
My husband is an SP type and I’m an NJ. It used to drive me crazy how he would just keep giving details when I wasn’t even sure what he was talking about. Of course, people still sometimes have to ask me to clarify what I’m referring to for the opposite reason! We’ve both learned a lot from each other through, so it’s not nearly as common for us to confuse people than when we were newlyweds.
as enfj who has younger sibling esfp this resonate with me alot
Hi Im INFJ from South Korea. Im not a native English speaker. Im glad you talk slow. So I can follow and enjoy your contents. Your contents helped me a lot to understand myself and other types of MBTI. Thank you!
NPs prefer more categorizations as opposed to less? I'd never noticed that or thought about it that way. But as an INFP, it definitely applies to me. I love delving into all of the personality subtypes like all the different combinations of MBTI and Enneagram, plus instinctual subtype, tri-type, all the different combinations of wings on all three fixes of the tri-type, etc. I don't understand people who say things like "we don't need all those categories" or "tri-type isn't important, focus on the core type," etc. I think that the more categories you can generate, the more capacity for nuance you can have.
ENFP echoes this.
I'm told l label but l label in an attempt to understand
If that makes any semblance of sense
Same - INFP
I'm am infj and I've obssessed over music sub genres and categories more than anyone I know 😅 but it was all out of dedication and not because I love categorizing things into a 1000 categories. I have this Infp friend who do the exact same things that are mentioned in this video. Its just with him that I've found myself so obssessively bowling things down to basic categories because I really don't like that intensity of categorizing things all the time. Its like I know all the details but I always and always say the same phrase at the end of the convo: "and that's how these 100 music genres fall under this one category" So this seemed totally relatable 😅
ISTJ here, I dont understand wtf subgenres people are talking about outside of the basic ones lol (pop, rock, rap, country, classical etc)
INFJ too and I would dive deep into as many sub genres and categories as I can because of dedication , but to better gather it as larger categories after thanks to this acquired knowledge.
@@edi0157 my sister is also an istj and she has the same opinion 😅💖 love you guys.
@@kyurei4478 It's good to know that other infjs do the same😀
@@ayesha_shah9 aww, thanks
I’m so distracted by your ADORABLE BABY!!! 😍 And by the visual craziness of orange & purple together for 17 minutes🤪🧡💜 Now it makes sense why I (ENFP) can get overwhelmed to the point of paralysis when organizing items. I see a million subcategories and don’t know what to do with them. 🤯 Hubby (ENFJ) always breaks down everything into just a few categories. We drive each other crazy 😝 but also help each other out 😊
Frank!!
1) The outro music on 1.25 speed is GOLDEN hahaha I love it
2) Recommendation for a video: If Car Brands Were People
3) YOUR BABY IS ADORABLE
I REALLY needed to hear this. I'm an INFJ who writes. One of my beta readers nitpicks details when I want him to respond to the big picture. I love him, but he pisses me off. I finally found out that he's an ISTJ. Just knowing this helped me understand that he sees through a different set of lens than I do. Since I was no longer seeing only my limited perspective, I could appreciate his point of view which helps me improve my novels.
Seeing this youtube video helps me even more. You give a clear and detailed explanation of how each type shares, analyses, and synthesizes information. It helps me appreciate my friend's point of view. Furthermore, it helps me realize how much better we could communicate if more people understood this stuff. Thanks, Frank Your baby is adorable. He was a cute break when you were flinging some intense information.
Could you perhaps do a similar video to this going into depth the differences between the decision making functions? You explain it really well and I’d like to send these videos to friends who are just starting out in MBTI
Thank you ! That is so true: I am ESFP and often when I explain something, people are saying that I talk too quickly and I say too many things. But for me, it's pretty clear ! 😃
Aw your baby is so cute, I 'm looking forward to more appearences of him in your videos
This is so interesting, because I'm an infj in a very caring profession- and people often say I reduce things too much! And when I give it a try not to do that, it's awful, and completely unintelligible lol. Be good to see what type you become when trying to clarify things - I feel very SJ in communication when my NJ isn't working!
INFP here. Here's the real situation happen to me. I cook some porridge-like-dessert using banana. (I don't how to explain our traditional "pengat pisang" to you guys, so hopefully you get it.) I cook it in a big pot, and i want to transfer it to several small container so that I can chill it quickly and stored in fridge. The pot is quite hot even though I'm using cloth to hold it, and I can still feel the heat. So I just quickly pour into these small container until there's like remaining soup in the insides of the pot. I called my dumb ESTJ brother to help me pick up the spatula which is on the table, and like 'scoop' the remaining soup into the container. But the way I say it is like this:
Me: Hey bro, help me out here..!
Bro: What??
Me: The spatula...scoop...soup...pot.
He legit pick up the spatula, scoop the soup from the container, back into the pot. I'm fuming. My fingers hot from holding the side handle of the pot. It is currently a hot day and I'm alone making that dessert in the kitchen sweating like crazy. My eczema is acting up so I feel itchy all over my body and this bich dare to piss me off. So I shout, he shouted back, my mom coming scold the both of us for being noisy in the house, so I just throw the pot into the sink at run into my room.😅 And mom is the one who tidy up all my mess in the kitchen and stored all the small containers into the fridge.
Like I just don't know, my mind is in jumble at the time and suddenly cannot form a full sentence. I do feel bad for my brother but sometimes he deserve to be shouted at by me, ahahaha... And yeah, sometimes I can speak eloquently, but most of the times people need to understand my 'way' of speaking because you are not the only one that are having conversation with me. There's at least 2 people that keep on talking in my brain while I'm talking to you.
Yessss this lol! I always expect people to connect the dots for me . “I need the thing you know the scoopy rubber thing….you know…utensil” hahahaaaa
Also that dish sounds really good!
This could also be a female thing. Women can say, “Hey, put the thing in the thing and then put it in the thing,” and another woman is likely to understand.
@@MaraschinoPenguin31415 I guess it depends on context. That reminds me of the trope where two women are crying and talking to each other in gibberish like sounds but they understand what each person is saying lol
I guess he didn't take the time to examine what you were doing but just immediately fulfilled your request. I think the addition of the word "out" may have corrected the problem by specifying a direction of travel since otherwise it is easy to identify the pot as the destination.
Unfortunately for the brother in this situation, asking clarifying questions about what is going on also tend to annoy people especially if they are holding something hot or heavy.
Same here, mate. One moment I can be as eloquent as Shakespeare was, the next my brain refuses to form a coherent sentence and I end up sounding like a fool.
This explains a lot….I am an intj and I have very poor communication with the rest my family my mother being esfj, my uncle being esfp, my grandmother being esfp, my grandfather estj, and my brother estp. I don’t understand them, even though I try ,and they especially don’t understand me, thank the lord my father is also a intj or else I would never get a break from the si/se world.
as an ENFP with adhd (oh gOD) that has gotten into many long conversations that lose sight of the main point because they got reaaaally abstract, everything you said checks out.
I'm an ENTP with a never saturated mind, so your type sounds like my favourite type of people!! 😃
Omg... It's the most accurate and understandable explanation in MY WHOLE LIFE!!!
My examples:
1. ISFJ (my aunt)
She really do like you said. When we're talking, she give the examples-stories on a specific topic. Like, if we were talking ab dancing, she started to give example ab her nephew, who is dancing, in all details (like why, when,where)
2. ISFP(my cousin)/ESFP(she's my best friend-seatmate)
They like to say something or stories just out of nowhere. Like we were talking ab something, and for example at pause at our conversation, they say the random story. Like, they just remembered the "important" thing, so they need to tell it)))
3. INFP (me:)/ENFP (my mum)
Yeah, totally true. I can talk ab something, than remember something alse, what I think is related to this topic, and than I remember something alse to this theme...and so on ad infinitum) In the end, I can say like "... Wait. About what we were talking at the beginning?..." (usually its happen when I'm talking with my mum...explainable tho)
4. ENFJ (my dad)
I think yes. He really "put everything in one bowl" when talk ab things:)
Sooo, I want to admit, imo this chanal is the best about MBTI. Funny/smart/ and the main - understandable contant))) Tysm for videos♡♡♡
That was a great video! The SJ examples you gave vis a vis your professors is something I struggle with a lot too (INFP). There is a a great exercise used in teacher training to demonstrate why context and overview (also related to modelling and scaffolding when teaching) are important. It's called nine lines, and basically you give students specific instructions to draw nine lines that are supposed to make a house e.g. 1. draw a vertical line. 2. draw another vertical line to the right of the first one, not as tall. 3. draw a third vertical line, further to the right, as tall as the first one. What happens is that students always come up with a wide range of shapes and objects, none of them looking like a house. But, if you first show them what the house is supposed to look like and what the point of the exercise is, and then give them the same instructions, they all come up with a similar-looking house.
That's because the instructions you outlined were crappy and not specific enough. If you specified sufficiently clear instructions, such as, for example, "draw a straight line (potentially specify the length of the line with a standardized measuring unit like centimeters or establish an acceptable range for it) horizontally, then from the left end of the line, draw a straight line upwards in a manner that starts but in which the second line still connects from its beginning to the left end of the first line, then...". That way, you could optimize and attain the precise result you wanted as long person followed instructions. You could even allow multiple differing possibilities by giving a range of acceptable parameters and even communicating instructions in the form of a flowchart (a more complex one could allow many differing results that would still be considered acceptable as long as a specific path on such a complex flowchart is followed).
@@nagatouzumaki3492 that’s partly the point though - if you give this type of instruction the level of precise detail needed is high. An overview, context and example can be more efficient at a student level.
@@laron2239 Not necessarily, and depending on what you mean by that the level of precise detail needed is high. The amount of detail required to convey will vary depending on the degree of complexity of what you're intending to instruct the person to do. If, as you pointed out, you seek to draw fairly simple approximations of houses that amount to several straight lines, then instructions while requiring more detail than you provided would still be fairly small and would require more proper articulation than a lot of detail. However, if you intended to draw a more sophisticated drawing, then there would be a lot of instructions and a lot of details resembling more accurate depictions of houses (be they specific or in general concept of houses) to take care of to arrive at a specific result (or their range) that is acceptable; however, the result as noted would be far more accurate to what's desired conclusion than relying on a vague concept of houses.
The problem with lack of detail is that oftentimes I've noticed it leads to struggling with concepts, especially complex ones, and correctly identifying things as belonging to a specific category. If you break concepts (or the thing that concepts refer to) into their components (details), then you can communicate with high accuracy the things you're saying (at least as long as you establish common definitions of words that have such precisely defined concepts that refer to particular things). Problem with intuitive: they are a lot of times sloppy even with concepts (both intuitive and sensors will rely on concepts, but sensors will attempt to root those in physical, and in the case of Si, to do so very precisely), while intuitive rely more on intuition, making concepts more vague and, I would say, fuzzy (for example, the concept or definition of heap, which fails to establish boundaries as to when grains of X (sand, rice, etc.) stack on one another and become heap). This is even an issue in academic environments, where fair amounts of academic struggle to define the concept of women in a coherent way and collapse when one asks a seemingly simple question like "What is a woman?" lacking a coherent concept of woman defined by a set of criteria necessary for a thing to be a woman, thus preventing, in any sense, being able to effectively categorize things. Now, mind you, this is not a problem with intuitives only, because sensors will also struggle with that unless a sufficient amount of time is dedicated to the intellectual sphere (as this seems to be the issue of the majority of people). However, even if you do dedicate a lot time to the intellectual sphere it will simply reduce issue of precision than eliminate it completely and even then there is gap between struggle with precision in natural languages as they practically develop and implementing more precise formal language for people to use (which would help to reduce a lot of confusion and misunderstanding in communication). So overall issue is that such imprecision in understanding of concept of house leads to problems down the line (and even outright when you want accuracy and avoid/reduce misunderstandings in communication). For example if I asked someone to draw me a house, someone could intuit it as couple of lines as you noted, when I wanted them to draw sophisticated representation of a house or vice versa.
Sounds to me like extraverted intuition is the language of the gurmans. The chocolate has a taste of nuts, cherries and coconut... No boy, tastes like chocolate to me. A really good one to be exact 😅
- an INFJ
Frank James: Put it on x1.25
Me, an ESTP: x2 it is
LOL
As a person who uses Ne often, I must say that I understand more what Se and Si are talking about, rather than Ni... and you summed it up really well in this video.
As an Ni dominant (Se inferior) I personally find myself irritated by the way sensors aren't more abstract in their thinking/commutation. It's overly simplified, I always prefer intuitive people.
@@alivc2458 Well, yes, I communicate the best with other Ne, but Ni is another kettle of fish. At least the S are direct and therefore understandable most of the time, whereas Ni are generally not understandable, because they most of the time think in abstract, but are "unable to put it into words" or so they say. I'm sorry Vanessa, this is of course nothing personal since I don't know you. I am talking in general.
@donaldgrape7667 Haha well that does definitely makes sense, interesting how my soulmate type is Ne dominant 😂
Your boyfriend is Ne-dom? Cool!@@alivc2458
As an infp woman i sent this to my estj husband for him to understand 👍🏻 we usually watch your videos on infp and estj's 😁 thank you so much for explaining it so well 🫶💜 your kid is adorable btw 😍😍
I'm intj. I work closely with an estj. To me his analogies are so factually close the actual situation - comparing a work team with a soccer team. I'm like 'why bother with an analogy!'
INFP here with an INTJ mom, and two ISTJ sisters. As much as i may butt heads with my mom, she understands me far better than my sisters.
We also believe that we all are on the autism spectrum, so that definitely affects communication as well. My abstract connections wow other people because they would never think to put such thoughts or ideas together. My mom can be pretty abstract too, which is why i think we communicate better. Whereas my younger (by 16 years) ISTJ sister who shows very very strong tendency to autism is so literal and has to speak about what is exactly happening in front of her, which gets on my nerves sometimes, lol. My other ISTJ sister is also pretty blunt and straightforward, but i think she understands me a little better simply because we are only 4 years apart and grew up together.
My dad i believe is either ISTP or ISFP or maybe ISFJ, but i think he might be more P just because of how he talks. It's not like my two sisters, nor like my mom, nor like me. And he is definitely introverted. Our communication isnt the greatest, but it is more because we just dont talk. When we do, he definitely is an S, and our conversations don't go very far because of how strongly I am on the abstract and he is on the non abstract.
I'm an INFP and I'm pretty sure my dad was an ISTP as well. We hardly ever spoke to each other either. But when he did try to teach me stuff it would be way too much information with all the jargon you don't learn until you're a specialist. He was a heavy equipment mechanic instructor in the military. So I would mostly nod along as though I understood any of the words he was saying 😂 I also grew up with all sisters (there was four of us) so I get how crazy it can be. I had two extroverts in my family so I can't imagine what it would be like to grow up with all introverts. Mom is definitely an ENTP, and my sisters are INFJ, INTP, and I think ESTP but I'm not sure haha. I didn't get along with my INTP sister until we grew up, and I got along well with my ESTP sister until we grew up. So, that's weird.
yeah i'm an enfp, moms isfp so we don't talk very long either, and my enfj dad can definitely condense things and situations like when we get in trouble that i don't think apply's enough, to try and be fair with seeing faults in more than one of us when getting in trouble and feeling like it's on the same playing field when it isn't to over correct not playing favorites
infp too and my younger sister is istj. i couldnt figure out why we find a hard time getting along until i found out she was an istj. a week ago i was trying to help her come up with ideas on her art project and she had such a hard time understanding how my ideas fit into her prompt when they weren't literal representations of it. she often looks at me like im crazy lol.
then she especially disses me when im doing something and very easily identifies whenever im doing it the hard way. and somehow im always doing it the hard way and i never notice. to be honest i dont even care as long as i get it done but she thinks i just purposely make my life harder for myself for no reason. at least we are both super introverted so we are at peace with keeping to ourselves lol
Aw Gawd, the SP info dumps 😅 now I know why I struggled so hard on my thesis, my mind was going all “NOT ENOUGH DETAIL” even when my supervisor’s face was saying “maybe you could streamline this, it doesn’t make sense as is”
-ISTP
I'm an ISTJ, and as much as I love the details, I learned to whittle them down to what's necessary because my ENTJ father was always very irritated by them. "What's the bottom line?" he always says.
That's probably because he needed to hear the why first. But sometimes it's hard to get to the why first when you're still working that out. Some people don't have the patience to understand that some people need to think out loud or are open to revising their thoughts as they receive feedback simultaneously.
I do that before I have to hold a speech
@@olive4naito He likes a one-sentence summary of everything. Once he has that, he's done, and his eyes glaze over. He won't even hear the details that follow. If you give him details first with no context, he gets very flustered and a little angry. He ALWAYS hates the details (Si blind spot).
Thanks FJ for helping us understanding the differences between sensing and Intuitive types. Oh didn't expect to see the cutie pie that is you baby. omg so cute hehe
That was cool! I like that you went into specific details about abstract vs. concrete. Helping out the people! 😆 This is helpful for understanding types other than your own, and seeing how they communicate. I will save this for future reference. I just have one question: Who was your handsome young co-star? Hehe. Nice to see he's growing and healthy! Thanks for everything, Frank!☺️✌️
As an ESFJ (SJ type), yes I look for Si details and you will find me expressing in Si details.
I've done interviews on UA-cam as an ESFJ, and I always use concrete examples and analogies to prove my points. Especially when trying to explain Fe.
Sometimes someone will ask me a simple question like, "Is he coming?". Instead of me answering either yes or no, I give paragraphs of details why or why not lol
Cheers FJ!
Your videos never fail to make me smile❤
To be honest, his speaking speed is perfect for someone who is learning English like me. In addition, it's blessing that he has prepared substitle for every video. Awesome!
Yes! My dad does the SJ type things so much (he is ISTJ). He gives me a bunch of stuff and info and when I ask “…why?” he’ll get impatient and tell me to just “trust him”. I ask “why” a lot without knowing and sometimes he just resorts to saying “no why”. I’m like, okay if theres no reason then what’s the point?
what is your type are you an NP?
It's mostly an NP, most likely an INTP.
As an INTP, when presenting a report in front of the class, I always get the main idea of the topics and rephrase it in a way that is it shorter than the ones in the sources. After reporting, my teacher will be like "So where is the detail of this topic?". And I was like "I summarized them all, ma'am. The idea is that blah blah blah..." But then she said "It will appear on the tests. It needs to be there."
I got a low score on that report.
The different colored marker coloring did help! Oh my gosh. That poor horse in that analogy. Never gonna complain about my bicycle seat again. Also, ok, it's more than likely I'm not having a Tyler Durden-esque break from reality with these edited in short scenes since while 2 times a pattern does not make, this is the 3rd time you've shown your little angel and all 3 times I read the comments to make sure people were seeing what I was seeing. Hope you, your wife, and awwwesome son are well!
This is perfect. Please keep this orange background clear, concise, sincere style (since with how my comments usually go, you'll see why I admire it!). My favorite lesson was the "Iceberg" because it was helpful heads up in general for going too deep in fandom recognizing the health and social repercussions with going to far in any hobby, but for MBTI lessons, well, the current thing on my mind tends to be my favorite while processing it, so, this....and the last one are my favorites since I couldn't remember what horror movies you were talking about. haha
I just remembered after seeing this video's thumbnail, I gave "Lost in Translation" a 10/10 back when I had a different criteria on a quality film when younger, and it might have been even one I liked for myself instead trying to impartially think what others might like, but I can't tell you a single thing about it other than Bill Murray and Scarlett Johansson were in it. Which, not anymore, I have a list of greatest films, but somehow connects to giving "Almost Famous" a 10/10 as well and was trying to remember what that had to do with you (maybe you were wondering too!), and then I remembered because I just saw "Zoolander" for the first time and discovered where you got your "I'm not your brah" ESTP segment, wait, hang on, earlier I wrote a Harry Potter length novel...never mind, that's not fair making a comparison to a good book haha...I want to re-read those because people were bashing them but it might be more of the symbol they represented at the time politically, and previously I could understand if real spells were used and parents were concerned but remembered a criticism about the kids being against authority when, at least from my memory of the movie, one of the kids who was presented as being on the heroic side Neville was rewarded for his obedience, and the heroes were reprimanded for their breaking rules, and I don't know if people were thinking there was a metaphor for ends justifying the means theme or going so logical missing certain details for context...but I went to the midnight release for the final 7th book and I loved reading them back then. Need to re-read Lord of the Rings first but every time I tried to read it as an adult, I struggled because of all the detail, and even when I was a kid considering it my favorite book thought there was too much. Wait, no Stinky Cheese man was...I mean, I just looked up the imdb of "Almost Famous" and can't remember the movie but I'm guessing the connection with Zoolander is that it might have been a commentary on celebrity culture, and thinking about how too much examination within certain contexts can lead to nihilism (that might have been a concern about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood but I really liked it) which I was thinking about with your poll regarding changing the past and how technically use of time travel is nihilistic but if the narrator presents it in a certain way where the audience is directed toward focusing on something like friends fighting to save their village and order their hearts in a heroic direction after a fall from grace, as long as the characters are well developed and creators don't make it out like they are arbiters of virtue and there's stunning visuals, performances, music, camera work, so the time travel is just a fun narrative device to mix things up....or if the there's plenty of other science fiction stories to balance it such as, the first, Frankenstein, being elevated in the culture for showing there's actual repercussions for prideful playing God scientific pursuits...
Ok, after, happily, listening to your video at normal speed, don't think I'm naturally comfortable like an Ni type since I tend to go off the rails, and that might be a bit why, besides lack of time, appreciate listening at higher speeds since my mind goes all over the place so if I listen to something at 3.5x speed, easier to focus. But, here, you brought the visuals and your information pacing was excellent! Just have to process it. Watched some of it with my friend before we had to go, but my friend told me to pause your video even before that point to say that were were both "N"s. But need to finish! Hope you and your family have a great day!
as an infj i can confirm. sometimes when people come to me for an advice i give them the idea of how simple the problem actually is. for me people are often just trying to think of many details of the issue, which isnt really helping them
😭😭 same as an IN(T), i like more understanding the bone structure but i hate when i do not focus on details, which at the same time, i also hate focusing on details, which sucks sometimes
Yes, I love the details and understand them, but sometimes I sweat them and make things difficult for me, so a conversation with my friend from infj often solves the problem 😁
Great information. I was just thinking last night that intuition is the function that accesses the subconscious. What do you think? 🧐
Yes there is that element to it as well, making intuitive guesses about reality without being able to articulate a rational or provable reason for it
SJ type married to NP type. You’ve just described my entire marriage. It’s been fun. He feels like I take forever to get to the point, and I get frustrated that he leaves out so many details. 🤣
wow this video is so informative Frank! I am ENFP and it makes sense why I do easily get bored of my Sensor friends (I love them, but they tire me with details.)
This is accurate, I’m an intj and my friend is an isfp. Most of our disagreements come from our different studying methods. Making school projects together isn’t my favorite thing to do, to say the least
Same. It's a lot easier to just do it all myself.
I'm an ISFJ and my friend is ESFP. Every time she tells a story or explains something I'm like “What?”. She always leaves out important details and context. So I let her tell the story as she likes and then make her tell it again, but I'm guiding it and ask for the details I feel are missing. When I tell the story she usually does other things at the same time. 😅
This explains everything! 😅🤩Thank you for further categorization possibilities from an INTJ
I think you talked about the single versions of the types. I'd like to see the in-relationship versions of the type, as well. How each type will be as a partner theoretically? What they can provide for you, for example... What they can't, and many other things.
Everyone's different, not sure if that kind of video is possible.
For example I'm ISTP, supposedly. Me, fixing things? Yeah, no... maybe if I had normal childhood or when I start living alone. Max I can do is PCs. Communication part, true what he said, I give information, but too randomly not structured. Thus I even avoid giving any information or asking questions. Recently made a PC build for a customer, haven't done that for a looooong time. Oh god I had so hard time to get courage to call and try to explain PCs current state or what changes we should do and then here I go rebuilding again :/
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 That's why I add the word "theoretically" in between my words. As you said above, making a detailed video in this case is impossible, but as Frank did in these series (for example, how each type act when they like someone), a general idea wouldn't hurt, not that it could be the solid truth for everyone in the type :)
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 Also, no, just because you're an ISTP, you're not supposed to fix things, mate. Stereotypes usually work for a great number of people in a system. Still, you're a human being, designed way more complicated than those systems.
Awesome video Frank! What you discussed here is perfect when looking for ways to apply MBTI to our everyday life. Could you do another one like this for Thinking vs Feeling ?
As an INTJ, I watch EVERY video on YT at 2x speed so the intro was funny lol. Tbh wish there was a 3x
I am the most hardcore intuitive while my bf is hardcore sensing. The beginning of our relationship was very aggressive and stressful and mindnumbing for both of us because we couldnt go 3 seconds without losing our shit over constant frustrating misunderstandings.
Then I spotted and developed an understanding of what was going on, but being an intuitive type i really couldnt explain it to him well and he didnt believe/understand anything i was saying at first. But over time we both learned to come over to the others side a bit more, and once i was able to communicate the sensing/intuition thing, our interactions over time became totally effortless (with a lot of work).
The fact we are both highly empathetic people with a dedicated sense of altruism is the only way it could have worked though.
Nice to see the female isfj and the female infj on the video image, they are my type and my best friend's type 😁
As an XNXP type, I now understand why my friends who are very likely not XNXP types do not understand the connections I try to make with what they are telling me so they often say "You're getting out of topic" when i'm not, I just make abstract connections.
To the other INFJs here: I struggle with communicating my ideas to other people. It's often too dense and complex and people tend to not be able to follow. To those of you who have stuggled with this as well. How are you overcoming this? Do you have any advice for me?
You can get a friend with a different communication style, and have them help you? I’m an ISTP, but one of my best friends is an INFJ, and I know she sometimes has me listen to her entire take on something, and then give her a greatly shortened version of her perspective.
In general, I can only assume you communicate like my INFJ friend, so I can suggest that usually, you are greatly overestimating the amount of context required to convey your point. If left to her own devices, my INFJ friend will start to answer a question with context for her answer, and then start to provide context for her context, and 30 minutes later, I’m not sure how she still hasn’t answered a yes/no question. 😅
I'm an INFJ who struggles with a similar thing. There is no one in the world who understands all my thoughts or opinions, so sometimes I feel lonely. But I've learned that communicating at least part of your idea with people close to you helps. Yes, sometimes it is disappointing to be misunderstood, but at least you will not feel alone, cause at least you can talk to someone and sometimes you will feel that your loved ones do understand and support you (of course, if they are willing to really listen to you from the beginning).
It is a common struggle for us INFJs I have learned to either break it down into steps to describe or to explain the main point and then go back in to clarify later
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This kind of breakdown video is always so fun cuz I can think of real people I know and type them as SJ/SP/NJ/NP (for the most obvious cases)
Most of my teachers are clearly SP but I can think of one teacher who seems A LOT like an SJ. I'm an NP and that checks out. But I don't know that many NJs (or at least beyond surface level).
His little face taking everything in 🥰 really sweet 😄😊 I really appreciate the slower videos! 😅 felt a sense of calm as soon as you said at the beginning lol! Loved the structure! Really easy to understand! And enjoyable, it felt effortless to watch 😊
Also, the bit about building the scenes and only being told each step 🙈 I really wouldn't have enjoyed that lol! I had that feeling a lot going through Uni 😅 it pains me to think how much less stressed I could have been with a little more overview 🙈
If you're looking for an example on how intuitive types mess up their communication (generalities, overviews) - just look at FJ's educational vids from 1-2 years ago 💀 very few ejemplos.
I'm from the deep south and I greatly appreciate that you speak slowly. 😊 You're baby is adorable by the way!! I'm INFJ and I was horrible at analogies in school. No matter how hard I tried I always got them wrong. Any other INFJ have that problem?
I am from Canada and the US South accent feels like singing instead of speaking
The Ni analogy style is pretty accurate 👌🏻
I was watching this on 2x speed until 4:45 then I rewinded and paused 😅 so cute 🥰
I’m NP and husband is SJ. Everytime he tries to tell a story, half way through I have to be like “ok but what is the point?” 😂
That's so funny, I was actually just explaining to my mother this morning the difference between N and S types. Thanks for this video! I will make sure to share it with her.
As an INTJ it has always been frustrating to me when people said my explanations were vague, while it just means that I prefer abstract thinking.
This honestly really helped me confirm I'm a high Si user.
I've been studying MBTI for quite a while now, but never have I understood the exact difference between the concrete and the abstract. Finally someone who explains it by using examples, makes me understand it a lot better! I can definitely relate to the 'Si users use personal details while explaining a lengthy, detailed story', people usually get distracted when I talk lol
Yeah, as an ISTJ I always feel like I need to give out all of the details when asked about how my day went and even feel a sort of pressure that I might not remember all of them and tiredness to list them all while my mum is like “but you dont need to, just give me the important bits” and I say “but you need the context to understand the important bits” Hell, sometimes what even is important? A lot of events in a typical day dont matter more than as minor data point on the humans involved and for the concrete execution of the task at hand or whatever. As FJ said, we really trust the facts but leave people to come to their own conclusion about their meaning, maybe as a way to check ourselves as well, especially socially where the lack of Fe in my case can really make people tough to predict
when you were talking about building sets. it reminded me of an exercise in elementary school- we had to explain to our teacher how to draw a box. And you would say draw a line and she would just draw a very long, messy line…. It was just teaching us how to be more specific in our words I suppose.
I find , if I’m thinking about too much at once I will start explaining something to someone but start in the middle of my thought and confuse the heck out of everyone. I am an intuitive, so maybe we are all like that?
Your little guy is getting so big!!!! He Is too cute for words. When he was looking at himself, it reminded me of how we used to do mirror time for my niece, and she would just get so excited to see her reflection. She would try to give the mirror a hug…
OMG that red hair! So adorable.
I was laughing with the examples. As an INFP, that Ne description is spot on! I've learned to clarify and reduce, but if I'm passionate about a subject, it's overload time. 😂
Fantastic content! This video shed so much light on how to bridge the communication gap with some of the people around me. This content is GOLD. Keep up the good work!
Your son is super cute 😍
I am like a game of charades. I give clues as to what I'm talking about when I can't remember the actual name. My kids are really good at it ❤
The sensors telling you details of what to do but you not understanding is so relatable to me as my mother is an ESFJ in an intuitive family,she tells us exactly what to do but we still just stand confused(I am an ENFP,my brother is INTJ,my father is ENFJ)
Video embodies the NJ description. Useful information clearly explained, especially for those new to MBTI.
While listening to you talk I was wondering about your son and how big he could be now, seconds after you gave me the answer 😄 Hope you are all doing well, thanks for the video!
This is the first time I haven’t had to slow down a video to understand you😀. This was helpful, so NP complicate ideas and NJ simplify ideas. I’m an SP, I do throw out random info, then use short analogies when I think I’m not being understood. It would make more sense to use A for abstract, C for concrete, V for values, L for logic, and O for open ended .That would make me a ICVO! Introverted, concrete, Values oriented, Open, rather than ISFP
OMG I wasn't ready for Frank's cute little baby!!!
In fact, the most difficult thing for me is to understand people with prevailing thinking. And in turn, it is difficult for such people to understand me, with prevailing feelings. Why do I react so emotionally to many events? Why do I give in to emotions in the first place instead of solving problems? And why is it so hard for them to understand that their actions and words can upset me, even if they do it for my well-being? Although I understand that all people have feelings, I often face miscommunication in this regard.
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My younger brother is an ESTP and constantly communicates in these detailed but seemingly unconnected snippets. He'll ask for rides places and just leave it at, "Can you take me to [ ] at [ ] time?" As an INTJ my immediate knee jerk reaction is almost always, "Why are you going? Who are you meeting? What are you doing? Etc." Without the ability to categorize what he's trying to accomplish in any meaningful way, I am at a complete loss, haha
8:04 I feel so called out 😂 that's exactly what happened, my friend (who was also the wedding decorator) wanted to know the theme, colours, which flower I wanted in the altar, which fabric for the runner, and I was like "nothing fancy, just pretty" 😅 she still says my wedding was one of the hardest for her to plan because I wouldn't give her any specifics
(I'm INFP and I think she's ESFJ)
I’m an ENFP with two ESFJ parents and we completely miss each other all the time. They’re confused with what I’m saying because it’s too broad, and I’m confused or zoned out when they’re talking, because half of the details in their stories aren’t relevant to the point they’re making
This video explains intuition v sensing in a way that I’ve never been able to conceptualize myself thank you so much 😪 Ive driven myself crazy trying to explain it to people so many times lmfao. Honestly THE best example I’ve seen hands down
hey frank, good video!! ok gotta work backwards here......as an infp, when u said how many music genres are there i immediately felt my brain go 😲😲😲 and how the crap does one answer that ginormous question?! lol, so, spot on there. then, buggie is getting so big!! good to see him......super adorable!! ❤❤❤ then, i have two sisters, an isfj and esfj. i sent them a pic of a new airport bathrm with a fire alarm up on the wall behind the toilet saying it wld scare the crap outta me if it went off....me being my infp hypothetical self. isfj sis says where's the toilet?? (it was slightly out of frame but clearly reflected on back wall) and esfj sis says why is there a fire alarm in the bathroom?? both solidly sensor type responses. lol. so funny to see the different interpretations, and in agreement with the info you presented. 😁💯
I love watching your informational videos! Could you do one on how the different thinking and feeling types miscommunicate or maybe one on how IP EP EJ and IJ types think differently!
I think you did a great job at explaining how NJ types process informations. It's actually not that hard to understand when you get that's the contrary to NP types. Very scattered versus very focused.
Dude, you totally described me, I'm an ISFJ and today I used tons of analogies during a serious conversation I had at home with my dad.
I love that you're giving me concrete words to talk about all this. It's hard to explain these things more concretely so that everyone understands. #Nissues Also 15:10 so is how I think as an ENFP hahahaha
Dude I was so focused until you show your honeybunch sugarplum baby. That's not fair ❤️🤗
Hee hee 😎