Use an iPad as an Electronic Drum Module - Step by Step Instructions
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
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0:00 intro
1:02 different iPad models
2:42 9th generation connection instructions
3:20 turn off local control (all iPads)
3:43 hooking up the aux cable
4:37 open Garageband and select drums
5:04 sound demo
5:32 fixing incorrect mapping
8:49 iPad 10th Gen, Pro, Mini, etc...
9:15 Method 1, USBc audio, BT Midi
10:20 Method 2, multiport hub
11:52 I made vids on BT midi before, see links
13:10 drumming outro
I forgot to mention that a lot of current generation Simmons drums, such as the Titan 50 and the SD1250 have Bluetooth MIDI. So you will not need a cable connection for MIDI if you have one of these drum kits! You will only need to connect to the Bluetooth MIDI within the Garageband Advanced Settings, and then use an audio output from your iPad to the Aux input of the module.
Thank you for this awesome tutorial! 🥁 🤘
Sweet thanks, I got a used Simmons sd1250 rather than a Roland it’s decent so with this feature I can connect to my new iPad before I get rolling with my audio interface and diving into logic.
Great video for this newbie on expanding module with iPad Garage band! Thank you!
Great vids on the e-drums. Been upgrading my set and this channel has helped a lot - just ordered the usb to lightning adapter to plug my new ipad in to garage band. Edit: currently have the IPad Pro 11th gen so will need the usb hub. Very handy for a non-mac user who has an iphone / ipad. Also had to laugh... "Oh I make a drum channel." "cool whats it called?" "DEMONIC SWEATERS"
I actually bought an IPAD Air 5th which was double the price of the IPAD 9th on sale for $269 Black Friday. Bummer. Until I saw that dongle you posted. Yep, ordered something just like that for another project for this IPAD. Seems to have all the ports Audio. USB A & C, HDMI etc. All is not lost. Very cool my man. Thanks
yeah, those multi-ports seem like the best option
thanks to your videos I've just bought the titan 50 and the coolmusic DM20 amp. I'm willing to buy an ipad but I did not quite understand what cables/conections I have to buy based on your fixed comment on this video. My question is exactly which cables do I have to buy to make the most of the iPad/Titan 50 combo?
On my Alesis Nitro Mesh Kit and my Medelli DD508DX I could literally just plug in the iPad using USB and it was pre mapped except for one or two pads, on my Roland TD11KV not so. In fact with the Roland, I have to use a MIDI INTERFACE (thank goodness it still had a midi out on the module, some modern modules don't have it anymore. There are some great apps for ios like Drum Session and DRUMS XD which are very reasonably priced too.
Not sure if you’ll see this but just in case. Any idea if this would work with the alesis nitro kit. Thanks. Love your channel
Hi Justin. You said that we need to have a USB cable (for printers) and a USB/lightning adapter to connect the iPad to the drums. What if I use the Apple cable (the one we use to charge the iPad) and plug in a USB adapter to connect it to the drums? Does it work anyway? Thanks.
Lol man, I did that today with my 1st gen mini iPad based on your older iPad video. I gave up years ago using midi controller through lighting cable because it wont recognize it after update iOS 9.3.5. But it ocurred to me that I could connect the Simmons Titan 50 through bluetooth. And yes ! it works flawlessly. Barely noticeable latency. What I couldnt do is listen to the audio back through the Titan 50 module. I just listened through the iPads headphones output.
You could use the aux cable technique to hear it though the module if you wanted to.
@@demonicsweaters did you need to increase the pads sensitivity ? I had to...almost to 30 with the Titan 50
@@MrBeen992 Every module I adjust to my playing style when I get it. Most of the adjustments I had to do on this setup were on the snare, kick and cymbals.
Hey Justin, quick question. I understand how you go into your module and change the midi note values for your cymbals so they produce sound. But once you do that, do you have to change them back once your done using garage band? I’m new at this and that’s the one step I don’t quite understand.
Thanks!
No, there’s no need to change them back
Hey Justin. Thanks for the video! Do you know what the equivalent of “local control” is on the Alesis Nitro Mesh module? Thanks! John
Press Utility until you see "LOC" then set it to off.
Thank you!
Hello, I have an Alesis turbo battery and when I connect it to the iPad like this, the hi-hat does not recognize it as closed, just an open hi-hat. Is there a way to change the hi-hat note so that Garageband recognizes my open and closed hi-hat?
Hi Justin I know I’m kinda late for the video but I connected every thing but when I hit the drums there’s no sound. Hope u can help!
Thanks
I had one of the newer iPads, but got rid of it for this same reason. Tried the hub thing, but it was still finicky and cumbersome. Hated that fact that they deliberately removed the headphone jack, and anything Bluetooth had latency. So I just went back to using my older iPad pros with home button and headphone jack.
I have a very simple e-kit that I cannot change most anything, midi notes included, but I’m doing very much the same thing…
I use a Lightening to usb-B cable to my kit module USB MIDI and output of my iPad to drum module aux input. I also can’t turn off local MIDI (I did say cheap ;v), but I can turn the volume off on the module. So I don’t hear the drum module sounds and only sounds from the iPad. I can then play along with UA-cam songs etc. Oh, and I have my phones connected to the drum module.
I’ve been using an app called Drums XD. I need to try GarageBand!
Thanks for the great content!
Karl
BTW, you can do this with a good Android tablet, running a DAW like Cubasis or FL Studio Mobile. You can even get good VST drums for these. However the iPad does a better and simpler job. Plus it’s so well supported by the music industry by in large. I also think you get better sound from the iPad.
UPDATE: So Garageband does work, but FL Studio Mobile is more awesome (altho also more complicated 😑). It let's me set whatever sound I want for each pad or cymbal (triggers) and I can adjust volume independently, as well as other settings (effects, attach, sustain etc). I can add HH pedal and Open sounds to a cut group so the pedal stops the open sound. This lets me fashion multiple custom kits that I can switch to between songs even!
Thanks for the inspiration @demonicsweaters !!! 😁🏆
I have a simple ekit as well that I’ll have to try this on. Hopefully it works with mine. Thanks for the tips.
@@DesolateMourning I just picked up a small Coolmusic amp that has Bluetooth. I also have FL Studio Mobile (a DAW for iOS & Android about $30-40). FL let's me set up a kit using various sounds from free and included drum libraries. One drum piece per track. So I can fashion kits completely from scratch! I can adjust volumes/effects/sounds of each piece as well! It's an awesome set up! I can select from more than one kit, once set up.
Bluetooth in the amp is great because the iPad does all the drum processing with FL, and I can control music and volume from my phone via Bluetooth to the amp. Though you could do everything from the iPad (or Android tablet) as well, I think. FL keeps the midi connection active in background, I think.
One trick is; for the high hat you have to assign a 'cut group' (under Seq settings), so that when you use the hat pedal it stops the open hat sound. Both the hat pedal and the open hat need to be in the same cut group "A".
I haven't been able to get cymbal choke working just yet. Cut groups don't seem to work as my kit puts out 0 for the midi value of the cymbal note and I think FL is ignoring it.
This all brings amazing sounds to my cheap kit!!
@@KGingeri good to know thank you. I have drum apps than can do that. Thanks for answering my question about the Bluetooth.
How do you record to your audio interface if the usb midi is already taken by the same ipad?
Hey how do I turn the local midi off on an Alesis nitro module?
I saw on your ipad for drum module video that there was difficulty getting different sounds on 2 and 3 zone cymbals. Then I saw your recommendations on handy drums ipad plug in. If I use handy drums, can I then select different cymbal sounds for different zones using the ipad?
Handy drums does not run on iPad as far as I know
And even better we can multi sample from ezdrummer and have the kits playing in an app called Audiolayer. I have sampled all my kits and many kontakt instruments into audiolayer. It’s a bit of work but well worth it
nice!
hi there!great videos!
i tried doing this on my ipad pro 12.9 (the one that still has the lighting and 3.5mm audio). i followed every step you did for the 9th gen ipad, but i couldnt get mine to detect my kit as a midi controller. i can hear the GB sounds on my module if i tap it from my ipad. but once i hit the kit, nothing. is there any setting i might've missed or something?appreciate your reply!thanks!
Probably an IOS version firewall version. USB is considered network so there just to be a setting to allow the module as a USB device to talk to the iPad
Thank you!
You're welcome!
No luck getting garage band to see Titan 50 even though it's connected via Bluetooth. I see it in garage band advanced settings, but when I add a new track, there's no option for a midi device? Have you done a step-by-step connecting Titan 50 to iPad via Bluetooth?
If you connected in advance settings, that’s all you have to do. Just add a drum track and start playing.
I am using a alesis sample pad pro with a kick trigger connected and for some reason I can’t get the kick to trigger the kick
I tried recording my titan 50 internal sounds to GarageBand, on the iPad 9th gen and the audio was really quiet. I connected the drum module directly to the iPad over a USB cable into the apple camera adapter kit. Am I missing something, do I need a preamp? The midi works fine, but I am trying to record the direct sounds from the module, and that is what's coming out too quiet.
The usb audio output of the titan is a bit low in my opinion, but you can use this great little $8 device to record from the mono 1/4" output of the Titan into your ipad amzn.to/3QfvkK3.
Is this possible to do with a kit that has Bluetooth?
Hi, gread video!
I have an ipad 8th generation, which works with a camera usb adapter and my alesis nitro kit. I don't get how to manage the dynamics because to me seems like no matter how strong I hit the pads, the sound is always the same.
In your video the snare seems to be dynamic so I'm asking.
I'm not sure. There's no setting for this, it should just work.
@@demonicsweaters Thanks for the anser, I found out it all depends on the sensibility settings in the drums kit module. I managed to have pretty usable dynamics in this way.
I’ve set everything up as you said in video but my pads don’t work. I can hear the sounds from Garage Band when I play the pads on the screen but not when I play my pads? I’ve got an Alesis Nitro module but nothing is working. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks.
Try a different usb cable
Will this work on a Simoons ed350 ? And if i used ipad can i used an amp as well will there not be any problems? If i used the amp and headphones ?
Yes, it will work. If you want to use an amp and headphones at the same time you need some kind of splitter or headphone distributor amzn.to/4a5D2ik
Does this work on 1st or 2nd gen??
I don't plan on joining the iOS ecosystem, but this is still useful/inspirational for my purposes. I can still plug my Pyle set into my drum VST in Cakewalk. My only barrier is getting decent at the drums--you know, just a minor detail.🤔 Thanks again for the information and inspiration.
Glad I could help!
Hey do you mind explaining how I would connect my drums to cakewalk? I'm not sure if plugging directly in with midi would work but then again my audio interface doesn't accept midi
It works to play for around 1 minute (sometimes less) before I have to replug the lightning cable. I have an ancient ipad, you think that where the problem lays?
possibly. did you try bluetooth midi?
My son's Alesis kit is doing the same thing now, yet the first month or so it ran fine without any issues (iPad gen 8)
Hi Justin, do you know if 6th generation iPads work? Lemme know : )
I’m not sure, but it should.
Thanks for this video - I hooked up my Alexis nitro mesh to GarageBand and am now trying to figure out how to play a song I’ve added on as a track and play my Alexis via a drum kit in garageband to record a cover while playing the cover song in garagband? I thought it would be simple - having the garageband drum kit and the song on the same track, but the drumkit isn’t working (no sound) while the music is playing? What am I missing? Help?
You will need two tracks, one for the music, and one for the drums. First import the music and then add another track with your drum kit on it. Have the drums track selected when you record.
@@demonicsweaters thanks.
I figured out that I couldn’t hear the live drums in GarageBand if not in record mode. I had the music and it’s played but no drum sounds we’re getting through until record. Is that the norm?
Hi! I just did this with my iPad 9 and my Alesis nitro mesh, and it works just fine for a few minutes, but then it stops working, i hit the pads but it’s as if I wasn’t playing, do you know why this might be happening?
maybe a bad cable or midi adapter?
Will this play the sound of GarageBand through the speaker system my drum are run through?
If you plug the iPad into the aux input, yes
Hallo could you please make a video off how you connect Simon Phillips Groove agent to you
e drum kit Love from Mik Roy from Denmark
I hadn't heard of that one before. Looks like it's more for non-drummers to create drum tracks from midi clips?
Got a $25 USB-C hub that included a usb-c input as well as the aux. cable input so that worked great with the iPad 9 Pro - thx! Edit: ghost notes not recording, hmmmm
you might have your threshold set too high
@@demonicsweaters dont want to bug you about tech support which seems rampant given your topics, but whats that mean haha? Ive messed w sensitivity levels and it plays the ghost notes via garageband thru speaker… but doesnt record them? Anyhow appreciate the vids!
@@thelizardkingdc make sure you have quantize turned off on the track
Hey please help me I have an iPad Air M1 I tried connecting to alesis surge mesh kit and connected through a USB hub and its not receiving signals from the drum module to the iPad or do I have to change the usb hub it’s not an apple brand!!!
You have to make sure the hub is apple certified, doesn't have to be made by apple, but some definitely will not work.
Ive done this but I can’t figure out how to have a Tom 4 and Crash 2 on the garageband kits. All kits just have the basic drum kits with 1 crash and 3 toms
That’s all you get
Justin I have a Drumkat 3.5 up grade to 3.8. My module is Roland td6. How can I ajust my Drumkat to have ghost sound when I play .Thank you. Like to some day meet you I live in ny also.
There should be several velocity curves to choose from in the DrumKat, read the manual to see how to select them. You can't really adjust trigger parameters in the module since the DrumKat uses MIDI out. If the velocity curve doesn't help, you may need a new FSR for your DrumKat. Alternate Mode will still fix any DrumKat sent to them for a charge, but it's very reasonable. You can also just order the FSR directly from them and install it yourself.
BTW, do you use Spotify? If you do, I would like to ask you to follow my band Demonic Sweaters there. We're very close to 200 followers and I would really appreciate it!
Thank you so much, I hope you're having a great day!
Justin
How do you record de drums from the Roland on garage band? cause I don’t like the drum sets on garage band.
You will need an audio interface compatible with iPad. Many usb interfaces work, as well as ones made specifically for iPad amzn.to/3S40yGH
@@demonicsweaters thank you so much for answering! I've been watching your videos and are really helpful! Is cool because you actually explained what cables you use and show how to connect or give other options! thank you man.
so, it will be better to connect directly to the audio interface, cause I have a Focusrite Scarlett 18I20 interface, but I dont think is compatible with ipad
@@luissilvadrummer I think they are! Most Focusrite stuff will work on iOS!
Buenas tardes. Sabes como conectar desde la app Indaband hacia una electronic drums roland? Geacias
I am no familiar with Indaband
Hey there!
Thanks for this helpful video, I’ve been trying to replicate this on my gear, which is as follows:
I would like to use the garage band sound library on my IPad Air 3. Gen. with my Roland SPD-SX sampler.
To connect both devices via MIDI i got the iRig Midi 2 interface and it does deliver signals to my IPad, but Garage Band won’t react to anything that comes from my Ronald sampler, which should basically do the same like any other electronic drum kit/module right?
Hope anyone can help me out with this.
C.
If the SPD-SX has a 'vendor' or 'generic' option for the driver in the settings, set it to generic.
You might also want to try an app like MIDI Wrench to see what’s really happening MIDI wise. Is the SX sending on channel 10?
can u see if you can use Real Drum app by Kolb as a module too? for Android
I’ll look into it
@@demonicsweaters thanks really appreciate it
What happens if I have the iPad that has input C and does not have an auxiliary?
Dongle time :)
👀👀HOW do I turn drum volume up and youtube video down? I'm trying to play a long
How are you even playing garageband and youtube at the same time?
@@demonicsweaters just turned on both apps and double tap the main iPad button, but now I have a audio interface and can now control both of the audio levels.
Is it possible to do this with a 5th generation iPad? Thank you
You should. As long as you can still get garageband on it.
Yup, and the right USB adapter/cable (camera adapters should work)
I was wondering if it matters what gig iPad 9th gen I purchase?
Well the more the better if you plan on recording lots of audio. Mine is 128 and it has worked pretty good for me.
I plan to use the Simmons app plus garage band to start I think. Also, what app is the right one for sd1250?
@@justinsnow3979 I think it's called the Simmons Advanced app or something like that. It tells you the models they work for in the app descriptions. I know it's not Simmons Drums 2, that one is for Titans.
I have a Yamaha dtx 520k with a dtx 500 module! I cannot find anywhere in the manual how to set this up! I got everything setup the way you did! Can record! Can use songs on the iPad! But don’t know how to turn of the local control! Need help
Just turn your volume off on your dtx500? If you route audio from your iPad to the module’s aux in, and have your phones in the module, it should work.
@@KGingeri I will try that thank you
@@calebcasselman8631 it may not work if both are tied to the volume control. It does depend on how your kit works.
@@KGingeri I got it to work! But I still hear both kits at the same time! Garage band cuts in and out! Not sure where to start to turn of the dtx sounds! If I turn the volume down iPad and module are silent thank you for you help
@@calebcasselman8631 Ok great. So then try this instead. Leave the midi connection as is between your drum module and the iPad, but remove the aux cable and use the iPads earphone jack as your output. Turn down the volume on the drum module - tho that shouldn't matter.
With this config, your drum module sends midi to Grarageband, which in turn determines the sounds used for each drum pad, and that's what you should hear from the iPads earphone jack. Don't connect any output on your drum module, other than USB/midi to the iPad.
(Note that volume on the drum module, has nothing to do with midi data sent to the iPad. All volume is now controlled on the iPad)
the GB Drums, for a free virtual drummer, have a lot of uses, but.. have a very limited amount of midi mappings for good hi hat triggering, at least in my experience.. a closed hat on the bow works fine, an open hat on the edge works fine, and you can get the pedal to trigger, well the pedal sounds.. on a Roland TD9 and the VH-11 hat controller..., no luck with getting the pedal to close an open hat sound.....you can only close the open hat by striking a closed bow.. .triggering SSD 5 or even Logic Drums requires no extra fiddling.. the hats works great... not so with the GB drums..
Yes, more simple hi hat mechanisms work best. Really a simple kit with single zone cymbals is mostly plug and play.
Can I use something like my Iphone 11?
Yes! You’ll just need an audio adapter that allows you to use the lightning port too, unless you have Bluetooth MIDI
Thiught id ask anyone...i was researching some deals for the simmons 1250 last friday and came across a kit midiplus ed9
Anybody ever seen this , anybody ever play one?
I have a few pieces of MIDI plus gear, actually I just got a new MIDI controller by them that I like. However, they're very hit or miss. I've got some hits with an equal amount of misses. I've never tried their drums.
@@demonicsweaters its not that much cheaper than the 1250, same size kit. The brain looks dated...thanks for feedback
Does garage band have a paid version that is better?
Apple Logic Pro is essentially the better version of GarageBand. There’s also Cubasis by Steinberg for iOS that has a lot of pro features. I need to make a video on that.
@AlternativeDrummer Sounds like a good way to go. I've had the Alesis DM8 forever now lol, so far its held up to what I do. I had a sweet pearl export pro series 7 piece set with Roto Tom's and a ton of cymbals. Unfortunately I lost that complete set to a pawn shop over my own stupidity. So I've gotten out that whole and things have been great for oh 12 years. Anyway, f8nding something thats similar I dynamics especially is hard. Obviously the Dm8 isn't close to a td30 or 50. That's really my biggest complaint, dynamics and cymbal sounds. Home is the dynamics on the Simmons you have?
Thanks for the tips man, much appreciated
Holy shit I can't believe this worked.
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LOL…I know damn well you didn’t say cassette tapes 😂😂😂😂
Tapes are pretty popular with several genres and scenes of musicians. They are stylish, cheap and have a cool sound. They have been popular as retro format for over a decade. Some musicians never stopped using them. I was releasing 7 inch records in the 90s. It’s a big old world.