Quality & Geometry beats Flex & Faff for Endurance
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- A short video on my thoughts while riding 700km in Mallorca on my LOOK 765 optimum. The bike rides so well over a huge range of terrain. The bumpier it gets the more it shines. No gimmicks like iso decouplers or damping elastomers, just good precise frame quality, stiff and efficient in all the right places. The frame allows for lots of scope to spec a wide range of wheels and tyres.
I have featured this bike previously, on the channel including a full build review.
The wheels featured are my favorite @ffwdwheels Royt 55. The frame is the 2023 model of the @look_cycle 765 Optimum in Silver Satin and True Blood. The frames are sold out, but we still have pre built options available to order from LOOK in france.
I'm also absolutely loving mine, what a brilliant frame!
Nice 👍
Same here. Would buy it again :)
I remember when I had a Look 585 how amazed I was by the quality of the frame inside & out. Thanks for a great review this sounds like a great bike!
Yes well chosen" Look "a great frame good to see life is not always about work keep safe.
Thank you David.
I've been longing for one for several years. Wayne of Waynos Fotos in Australia first brought my attention to what an awesome bike this has been for several years. I'll never be able to afford one. Don't care for disc brakes, but if someone gave me one, I'd accept it, lol. Your review gives added meaning to the words, "Take a Look." Words to live by when looking/searching for a bike. All the best.
Disc brakes are amazing. Rim brakes should never have existed. MTB's have been using them for well over 20 years. We roadies should have demanded them back then.
2:33 just a normal day around Northampton 🤣 happy to see you are enjoying your bike on Mallorca! I been on the Formentor last year and it’s tough but amazing. Can’t wait to go again in June. Enjoy!👍🏾👍🏾
Paul glad to see you having immense fun in the sun and the pure joy your Look is giving you 👍. Proper road test and it proves a well thought out build, appropriate fit and frame geometry is the magic formula. For me 17 year old Extreme-C, chorus 12 speed 50 34
11 /34. Nothing feels better than when a bike is an extension of your body. Happy days
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Thanks Kevin.
Glad your enjoying the bike in beautiful surroundings, you have put the graft in, just on UA-cam alone!
Thank you.
My aluminum track bike becomes an endurance bike after more than 100km on flat smooth roads. My race bike is 45 years old and now sports a 42x36 low gear, 9 speed! Quality is my main concern, and I've found it.
I’m glad you’re happy with the bike. That’s what matters. I hope it’s not the future though as far as the 1x goes. I’m totally against that aspect and would never have it on any road bike I owned. FDs shift great nowadays when set correctly. IMO the positives outweigh the negatives both on a qualitative and quantitative basis.
I think that choice is the future. I hate being forced into a set up the brand has given to a frame. I am building one of these for a customer right now on a 2x. It’s right for them.
This is why I really appreciate my scott addict (non rc)
Awesome!!
I really want to have that 74° Seatpost. With my 73.3° I had to buy a new 0 setback seatpost and push the saddle forward as far as possible. I can imagine how efficient you feel on your beautiful bike :)
It's a mile muncher. That's a new term 😊
More videos of you or the guys in the shop in action on their respective steed of choice 😊
It has a nice clean look to it - pardon the pun and I dare say it offers you a ride all day position, just being tucked in ever so slightly on the hoods for many hours of quality riding.
I knew this video was coming, spotted you at Palma airport this morning 👍
Thanks Karl.
Does look nice (see what I did there....), but I do think I'll be sticking with my Giant Defy when I replace in the next couple of years. Also, I am not at all sold on 1x for road, or gravel for that matter.....
Cheers guys.
At 41, my lower back and I are looking for an endurance bike (with endurance geometry) to replace my slammed (and cut) BMC Teammachine. I really like your LOOK 765, for both its geometry and finish... but I just can't seem to get over my weight weenie complex! If only they would offer a more expensive frame at least 200 g lighter.
You need to get over that. It plays to the marketing teams that push poor decisions onto designers to chase some magical low weight in preference for some durability and practicality. An endurance bike should feel planted and confident, not skittish and fragile.
I have a similar setup 44T and 9-42 cassette. All gearing is there.
I think I will get a 9-42 next.
In my quest of finding the type of cycling I'd like to do I went form a MTB to looking for a gravel bike. Because basically no gravel bike was in stock last year by accident I found the Ridley Kanzo Speed an bought it. I'm super happy with the bike and it turned out to be exactly the right bike because I'm riding on road mostly now anyway. The Ridley has a similar geometry compared to the Look, also slacker head tube angle and longer wheelbase. And more importantly a standard round seatpost and no integrated cockpit! The frame is not so light and aero than pure road bikes, but if nothing else it helps me getting fitter trying to keep up with my riding mates on road bikes
Cool. Yes that Kanzo makes a better road bike than the gravel it was designed for. Enjoy.
I´m curious to hear your opinion of the Storck Visioner CSL in size 55cm.
I have only ridden in the car park. The frames are usually well finished and have some nice details. I don’t have any reason to be critical of them.
I have been to SigmaSport today and Milo helped me understand a little bit more about the differences in geometry between all of my various bikes and why my LOOK BLADE 795 RS is just far superior to the rest (VITUS , PINARELLO and BIANCHI)...........................................have I mentioned how much I love my LOOK BLADE 795 RS before ?
The 795 is amazing. It’s a bit lively for what I’m riding right now, would love one for fast and furious evening blasts though. Congrats on a great bike. It’s so stiff you can stamp on the pedals and wrestle the bars until every ounce of speed has been extracted. Love it.
@@Mapdec If I were ever to be limited to only one bike (voluntarily, no wifey influences) I think the 795 would have to be it.................even though I would love to own a DOGMA
Great vid! How would you compare vs the Time ADHX? Cannot choose between them..
The ADHX handles more like a normal road bike. It just has bigger tyres. You should compare the ADHX with 785 Huez really and. The 765 Optimum compares more with the long awaited Time Fluidity.
Hi there, did you build that set up? I cannot find 1x and mechanical components like you have with that beautiful satin silver color online.
Yes. We custom build everything. Get in touch, let’s see if we can help.
Nice video. Thanks. How does this frame compare with the earlier 765 Pro Team, which has a steeper front-end and bridged rear stays (if thats the expression)?
Thanks Peter. I think you just answered your own question. I never rode one to know. I did a video about why I bought this bike. It was chosen more on geometries than brand.
@Mapdec I'm really interested in comparing them as I bought one (frame, custom build) for its endurance geometry. I love it, but I'm not entirely convinced of its endurance handling characteristics - a bit halfway there as it were.
You should try an aethos. So comfortable and descends with absolute confidence.
Have you tried the Optimum 765 Plus frame? How does it compare?
I haven’t tried it. I believe it will be similar with, but with larger tyres.
a well spent holiday and a successful example of manufacturing de-coupling from china. let’s hope more cycling companies do the same.
Appropriate for a seasoned MTB-er’s first road bike? Just had a fit and looking for high stack & low reach in a comfortable frame. Not looking for speed records, just a solid, reliable, and comfortable bike. 👍
Yeah. You’ll actually feel right at home on this Geo. it a bit of a mind bender for old skool roadies.
Nice Video! What's the availability like on these framesets? not actually seen anywhere selling these so are they order only?
Frames are out of stock. Full builds are ok
What’s the groupset build?😀
A mix of stuff from my old bike. Apex levers, force mech, Quarq power meter
@@Mapdec 👍🏾 I’m on 1x Apex but want a bit more range, if you don’t mind me asking what would you recommend? Save me from a whole new groupset or a new bike!
@@lcdc27 you can get a 9-42 cassette to widen the range. Or if you mean you need a lower gear, just swap out your chainring.
Hi Paul, the bike looks great, nice job. What’s size is your front chain ring, is a 44? and what is your rear cassette range? I love the idea of converting my 2x to 1x.
Hey. This is 44 on 10-42. I sometimes use a 42t in the winter.
Did you go away from the L3 Stem to an aftermarket stem?
Different bike. One we are building for someone else. We are waiting for the 80mm LS3 stem to arrive.
Well spotted btw
Oh. Wrong vid. Thought this comment was on the time vid. In this vid the stem is still the LS3
Same, can't keep waiting as it's taking forever. Deda doesn't make an upper cap for the look. Ritchey doesn't appear to either. Any idea who does? Want to run a fully integrated set up.
E in Spagna che zona è
The obsession with "compliance" gimmicks seems weird to me for endurance bikes. Given the wider tyres now it seems unecessary. This looks like a great, almost traditional, bike.
I'd say the definition of an endurance bike is linked to the definition of an endurance ride. What is an endurance ride? How many hours, hor many kilometers, how many meters of ascent? To me, real endurance starts at 8h in the saddle, coupled to at least 150 km and some 2.000m of ascent. In order to tackle those, I would be willing to sacrifice quite a lot of speed and efficiency for comfort (neck, back and bottom in particular) or adequate gear range. No matter how well a bike "holds speed", the last thing you want 8h into a 12h ride is back or neck pain, saddle sores, or a low gear that is way too high for whatever you have got left in the tank for that final climb of the day.
If one's definition of endurance rides varies, then their definition of endurance bikes surely also does as well.
Interesting. The problem with flexy bikes is that they become ever more fatiguing over time as you have to constantly move your core, shoulders, neck etc around the additional movement. The Trek Domane for example gets worse the longer you ride it. Take a look at the bikes used in super long audax. Usually Ti, stiff and efficient to pedal. Similar geo to this,
@@Mapdec stiff compared to what, those decoupled rear end bikes like the Domane? Many audax bikes are indeed made of titanium or steel and far flexier than many so called endurance carbon road bikes. I've owned aluminium, steel, carbon and titanium road bikes with quite similar geometries and nearly identical bike fits, all run with the same saddle and very similar tyres, and the steel was by far the best mile munching machine, in spite of also being the most sluggish and indeed the flexiest of them all, especially in the rare occasions I got out of the saddle. The only main reason I went to titanium instead was it being rustproof and not requiring paint, otherwise steel was by far the best choice for me.
Yes. Stiff compared to things like Domane and Roubaix. Steal is a lovely vibration absorbing material.
@@Mapdec well yes, I agree those bikes are nothing but expensive solutions asking for a problem. But for what it's worth, I am slightly more dissapointed in the current crop of rigid end endurance road bikes, which are still way too race oriented (particularly in terms of geometry). They could also use a third bottle cage mount like many gravel bikes do, not to mention fender mounts. Otherwise, they are merely road not-so-race bikes that are unwilling to fully commit to the needs of (ultra-)endurance riding.
‘Endurance ride’ …….. yep sounds like every time I go out 😄
What size is the frame?
This is Large with 110mm stem. I am 182cm
Like 200
First rule of a cyclist. Tell everyone how much n how high they have ridden n if you are lucky whack in the average.
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