Karachi Encroachment Operation - Good or Bad? | Junaid Akram's Podcast Feat. Bekaar Films
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2018
- Mubeen ul Haq and Sami Rehman of Bekaar Films came to my podcast both having different views on the anti-encroachment drive of Karachi markets. Listen and share.
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totally in favour of anti encroachment drive....bht pehlay hoojanna cahea tha...
G bilkul bht pehle hota to yeh msail hote he nah.
Bilkul tik hai ab bi tik hai
Mubeen bhai jo log berozgar howe hain esi bht si jagah hoti hain rato raat company se banda nikal dia jata hai unko rizk dena Allah ka kaam hai lekin ek illegal system khatam horaha hai wo step bht acha hai
iska dukan giradiya hoga
Jo company se nikala jata ha wo degree holder hota ha ab ek burger wale ko srf ata he anda Wala burger banana ata wo Kia Kare wo to thale pe Andy Wala burger he banai ga or ager ap bolo wo duckan banai to uske hasiyat he nhi ha usko koi alternate to do
The licenses ll be issued iA after registration.Thats a good point.
Bht achi soch k maalik hain ap
MASHA'ALLAH 💖
@@khizerhayat6689 company is jo log nikale jate hn wo sare degree holder nhi hote un me ak bht bara tabka ande wala burger bnane wale k barabr b hota sorry i disagree about your thoughts.
Sir is tarahn ki videos aage bhi continue kariyega ❤️
Simple answer is that people should respect the government of pakistan before illegally acquiring the land.yay kia jahalat hay kah rizk lay liya hay. Pahlay to unhain saza dain kah illegal land kion li hay. Is tarah to aur bhe bayrozgar hain unhain bhe land day do. This is all fraud, finish encroachments. Then government should take some other action for these people.
@@adrenalline8250 you are right
Hi guys I am Indian, we do have same problem like encrochement, but our comedians not even private TV channels discuss things like this, our every discussion replace by debate and every debate by shouting matches.
Love from India
Glad to see you are accepting there is a problem. i have alot of Indian friend who dont even accept India has some problems. You dont accept, you dont resolve
We are totally agree with anti encroachment
It’s great 👍🏻 job
illegal is illegal no more comments
Agree..
I’m also agree
I usually do not comment on social media. But here is my take:
I live in Netherlands and marijuana and prostitution is legal here because these businesses has been here for centuries and government realized that when ever they ban these illegal businesses it comes back after some time.
Thus the government realized that this is what their people is like to do and legalize the whole soft drug and prostitution businesses.
If an average Pakistani would like to put kiosk (pathara) as it has been going for centuries as it’s not only Pakistan but also the regional culture to do business on pathara. Thus government should legalize it and make those patharas pretty enough to visit. This is what our people want to do business let them give how they wanted.
Also stop pushing people to accept western business practices as we are not accustomed to it.
Do you walk on street in Netherland or on side walk. We in Pakistan are use to walk on roads as side walks have shop on it.
@@adilakhtarghani6848 point
B3ckstAgE very well said. I Totally agree with you. In Pakistan people don't think in this way. If they legalized these street stalls govt would have earn good money from them.
@@adilakhtarghani6848 not in everywhere...
Junaid Bhai please put your podcast on sound cloud, Spotify and iTunes. They are worth listening.
Excellent step by Junaid Akram! Finally, we have such content with which we can relate to. Both Mubeen and Sami are right in their perspective but no one is talking about the conclusion. In past, we have seen such Encroachment operations but it stayed for one or two months max. The point I'm trying to raise is "Do encroachment operations but don't forgive the officials". They are a real problem or as we say 'Kali Bheerein' in the system. They are the one to be taken action against them. Kisi ke baap ki himmat nai hoti begheir bahtaa dea apna Theela ya Dukaan aage barhai. For all the problems we are facing in our country. The first problem or the problem where which it has first started is, with respect, our government departments. I know government officials who have made Billions and I say again Billions. I say Hang 10 most corrupt officials of every government departments. 100 days? Duss din me Tabdeeli aajai gi Khan Saab!
Flood doesn't distinguishes between rich n poor Mubeen bhai
Good points raised by Sami.
And according to Mubeen Bhai’s logic, mega scam companies like Axact should also keep working as it’s the source of income for thousands of employees. That’s not how it works.
Most of these illegal shops were created by people that came from other areas of the country. These people have zero love and zero care for the city of Karachi and they are there only to make money at any cost to the city. They could only be allowed in this important city if they pledge to follow the law and respect the city, its property and its people. I am not advocating that we prevent people from other parts of the country from moving to Karachi. However, we need to put proper checks and balances to ensure that the city’s resources are not overly burdened and depleted. Karachi needs to get its proper place in the world. And to make it a world class top business and financial center, we need to take some tough decisions and bring in the brightest talent, not the people that support encroachment and illegals. No government anywhere in the world is responsible to pull you out of poverty. You are.
As a Pakistani living abroad, I worked my ass off to established myself and it took years of very hard work to get a relatively comfortable life that I now have. I am staunchly against everyone including poor who break the law and cause inconvenience to the people.
People from others areas have come to karachi and ruined it. These people should respect the city if they want to earn from it.
Same thing in Lahore. Billions of worth of infrastructure getting over burden day by day. Mahool be kahrab kar rahay Lahore ka, aur traffic/sarkin be
I am also a shopkeeper in Karachi. Bahut larkay beroozgaar huay hain roz kaam manganay aa rahay hain. I fear it is the silence before the storm.
No one cares, everyone just trying to prove their point but no one understand the pain of those shopkeepers.
Hr saal hamkoomat notice deti hy! Hr sb mazak mn baat ura dete hain. Lekin is baar mazak nai tha.
Very good initiative by KMC and other stakeholders. This antiencroachment drive should carry on in all areas of khi. Berozgari is not a valid excuse for doing illegal business and compromising public rights.
Hello and Salam,
Was thinking about the podcast thing for so long and Alhumdolilah saw your couple of shows, really good and up to date. Good material and good talks. I hope to see more of it. Will also inbox something InshaAllah.
love this chat coz its everyones problem not including any specific person or place. 😊
very healthy discussion good job all of u.....
Very Interesting coversation.....Please Continue Posting such Videos
Junaid bhai ur podcast initiative is great. I hope other people in pak also follow u. This promotes the sense of finding solutions of problems by meaningful dialogue instead of violence and dharna. And by the way when u started podcasts you started looking like Joe Regan alot 😎.. r u following him?
I support Sami because he is right
wah
I'm totally agree with Mubeen.
Me too
Great discussion and insight.
For the blue shirt: bhai WO 3 mazdoor log jo ek shop par lage huwe hain, daily weges par lagy hotay ha, WO wese bhi permanent job nai hoti, they work for a few months at most, phir they go somewhere else. And ek dar band hota hai tu dusra khula hai, they can work in factories where degrees are not not required, even theyll earn 2 times more than they earn at shops. Hamara yehi masla har waqt emotional hokay souchte hai.
Mubeen ka bass nh chal rha tha k sami ko chamat laga de aik apni baat manwany k liye jk😂
Oss chutiya ko marna bhi chahiya..
mubeen ache tareeqe se apna view de raha hai
Very good discussion. Good points from both sides
Good discussion hum pindi waloon ko bhi thori achi information mil gai
Much better discussion and counter arguments by these two than those so called "politicians" and anchors who appears on mainstream media.
This operation is perfect, and belive me, this operation would not have happened if government gave them time and warning. I agree with sami, and mubeen is just looking at one side of the story.
Encroachment ka sabse best solution Hota Hai ki Har city mein 2-3 markets ho building ki Tarah. On every level there will be different markets. Ground level pe sabzi wale, uske uppar khane wale. But koi karega Nahi kyuki isme mehnat lagta Hai.
Love your podcasts
Podcast jari rakhna ustaad. Bauhat khoob (Y)
Good discussion I love this drive say no to any sort of criminal activity where small for large as a nation we have become accustomed to these things and we are defending criminals
This podcast is a superb presentation.It was unlike the daily violent tv talk shows filled with overacting by show hosts and the politicised attendees.Choosing to bring commentators directly affected by the Empress market situation and only to comment on the current scenario without exaggeration was the right choice.The only thing to add here was to talk a bit about the expansion projects by Riaz Malik of Bahria Group.One example would be his Icon tower where he is supporting unidentified property dealers who are a similar threat as a qabza group.Kindly research on the workings of the Bahria group as well.
How is empress market in karachi now? Still with encroachments or not?
I agree to both..kch pana e to khona parega..mgr woi bat k upr se safai honi chahye gareeb ko gareeb tar krna buht asaan e..takatwar ko kamzor krna mushkil e..
Good step by govt and indept analysis
I wish i can sit in this conversion its some serious debate and we can show so many better points to the people
Sami your arguments are absolutely strong.
Great great Topic ❤️
Very debatable topic. Sami or mubeen dono apni jaga theek hen. Lekin kuch bhi ho Jaye ye baat sab ko samjhni hogi ke ghareeb ka koi nhi ha uska kuch nhi ho sakta. Junaid Bhai aap apni aksar videos me kehte hen ke the education is the only way. Or wohi ek Rasta ha lekin uske lie bohat ziada sabr karna parega uska result at least 50 saal baad ayega. Phir sab kuch khud hi theek ho jayega
I agreed with Mubeen cuz some how they are entrepreneurs although they are illegally were there. Government should provide them replacement and legalise them before demolished the whole market this is brutal.This is my first ever talk show that I didn’t fast forward keep it up!
I agree with Sami as a sudden action will scare everyone.And that now action is being its wrong ? The person who suddenly stopped taking bribe is not betraying the client **** but is showing them that doin something wrong can anytime suddenly be stopped and you can be suddenly be punished for it.This will stop people from giving bribery other wise people will keep giving bribery and will say dekha jai ga.
Great bhai love you ❤❤❤ from new york
These are MXL 990 Condensr Microphones ..
Good for vocal recording
I'm a Supporter of this Drive
I think one thing which we're missing in whole scenario is that these markets built in past and these all commodities were able to fulfill needs of population at that time.Now due to rapid urbanization and especially in case of Karachi,Government didn't provide new spaces nor any one took care of it.This exponential population growth need more markets, sellers and importantly needs more opportunities for their income,so people force to take these type of steps and this problem can't be eradicated unless we provide them employment to their respective cities or areas where they live and stop urbanization.
Nobody is forced to make illegal shops. They do it because they have the incentive to do it. that is it's cheaper and the government will not stop you from doing it. If the government stops illegal shops from the get-go, when the need for more shops will arrive, people, themselves will develop malls and commercial plots who will then sell it to the shops' owners who will sell their stuff. The government can implement the law properly, everything else will be owned by the people and that is when business thrives.
In interior Sindh anti enchrochment drive had became a weapon of political revange and one can not apeals against it in court because it is an order of superem court.
You should have also talk about it.
i enjoyed every show, but juniad bhai kya muben aur rehman ne konse management ya urban engineering ki degree le rukhi hi jo anti encroachment pe bt kr rhe hn? ap us field k concerned bandy k lai..
Kamran bhai keep control on likewise "GHARIB PER SB KA KHARA HOTA HAI". Otherthan that a wonderful discussion going on.
Akram*
Junaid bhai your opinions are highly refined.. We need people like you to work in the media industry more...
Mubeen bhai sahi keh rhe first give solution and then take action
Well that was a nice conversation the only thing is you guys need to understand that there are certain things which are under provincial govt which are not handled properly... If it would have been done things would seem nicer.
Btw jo TV pe bethy hein un se behtr tajzia h. And very decent way
Nice discussion
I agree with giving notice in advance at least a month or two.
junaid bhai studio pay kitni cost aye. Zaror batana.
Mubeen is absolutely right. First bring the law, create alternate source of income, issue licence and bring them under tax bracket. After this if anyone does not act upon it then punish them.
Will those who are advocating it without the abovementioned steps care to feed the poor?
Then the other guy said "are you saying "you are allowed to crime, if you are poor". So the answer is in the words of our Prophet Muhammad صل اللہ علیه وسلم that "A poor is nearer to KUFUR".
Have you taken steps for them not to push them towards KUFUR? Is there enough employment in the country?
Yes thats a good point.Its noted.But alternate place for fruits or vegetables etc is a seperate market place.Once free plain areas get freed from land mafia some plains ll be considsred for govt taxed alloted markets as well iA.
I wish Junaid bhai should be a anchor in Electric media
fantastic show.. I agree with the bearded guy that it happened too fast without any kind of precaution to the daily labourer.. but it had to happen for sure.. yes the K.M.C and Local Police must be accountable however the political parties were involved and most corrupt ..lets get the Sharif and Zardari to pay up asap.. Everything will be fine .. be patient all
Basically mubeen bhai process ki complexities peh baat kar rahay hain, sami bhai process say nikalnay walay output ki baat kar rahay hain.
Sami is right
It’s not as simple as right and wrong when it comes to the problems in Pakistan. It’s about those grey areas where even a wrong has to be endured for a certain time to make feasible changes. I agree on a lot of things Mubeen said. All the right things sound very good on paper but in practicality do more harm than good when something wrong has been going on for years and change is being implemented overnight that too without alternate solutions. The only argument the other guy had was ‘so you are saying ____ is right?’. He had no practical solutions to any of the points mubeen raised.
More of the podcasts should be with 2 people debating. This is a better format and highlights pros and cons of implementing change from both the sides.
Nice.
Donu k points theek hay BUT the only sensible solution is pehle arrangement karna chaye phir encroachment...mustafa kamal did it in lyari express n saddar wala road....
Agreed k Govt ny yeh drive start kr k bilkul thek step lia hy, and wo log jo berozgar huy I am sure k un 700 ya jo b number hien un ki zariya amdan kuch roz k liay ruka zroor ho ga but permanent band ni ho ga.
We all want to see a Progressive Pakistan...
thank god we have some useful videos talking about serious issues in Pakistan other than just mass comedy videos. Keep these vids up.
For next vid can you talk about how Pakistan can expand tourism and earn money from that? tourism in Pakistan is like an untapped oil resource. it has a lot of potential.
Seeing it after Delhi drive
Mubeen Bhai Pehlay Ap Research karlo Un logon ko mahina Pehlay notice Diya tha
Agree..
bhai sb dukano ko nhi notice kya gya tha empress market cutrak rod ko jo k kcb ki zameen thi jinho ne june 2019 tk k kiraye dye hoe thy unki dukane tor di
@@SyedFahadAhmedShahEB_ kiraya 6 mahinay ka 6 hazar tha yad rahay
@@illmicorner3820
bhai 2019 june tk ka apne kiraya lya huwa h jae jitna bhi ho apne lya hi kyo tha jb apne dukane gira ni thi to or wo dukane 1958 se bani hoe h log ab kirae pr nhi lete log 30 lakh rupay ki kharidty h government ko bhi kiraya dete h
@@SyedFahadAhmedShahEB_ bhai 1958 mei itni dukhane nahi thi jitni aaj hain.
1. Jin logon nae government sae legal papers pr dukane khareedi hain wo court sae case lr sakte hain.
2. Qabza ki zameen per dukan khol kr , govt k rishwat khor logon ko kiraye k naam pr paisay daine ki ghulti inn logon nae khud ki hai..
Rishwut khor govt. Employee kabhi bhi apko legal documents nahi daega.. aur na kisi dukandaar k pass legal documents hain.. illegal kachi parchi pr yea organized crime horaha tha.
Jis mei rishwat khor govt. Employees shamil thei..
Apki nadani hai k ap qabzay ki dukan ko apni dukan samjh bhaite ho.
Asl mei 30 saal sae kisi sindh aur local govt. KMC AND KCB nae action nahi liya kiyun k sub ko rishwat k paisae mil rahe thei. Aur sub set hai ki report ja rahi thi.
بلاول ہائوس کی دیوار، ڈالمیا اور راشد منہاس روڈ پر آرمی کے قبضے کی باری کب آئے گی؟
Shut up u fool, army have its area's before Pakistan allotted by British gov't, and army have approved land, so shut your mouth and talk relevant
Agree with bepa irina
@@goodsdeeds3980 Go and see yourself, you will not find service road on both roads and main road is narrowed for security. Initialy army constructed security post than they built the boundary wall.
Similarly, if you will see map there is road beside Askari V but in reality there is no road.
Khabhi Nahee
Imran khan ki zamen ko regoralize ker dia wo b illegal ha
Multiple notifications were given.
Junaid Bhai good job
sir parking wale baat per i am disagree sadar me parking plaza hai jee koi use nahi karta ... mager mere father kahte hain wo plaze ko hi market banake inko deydoo to buhat duhane ajaingi wahan
3. There should be a garbage collection facility by local gov and there shouod be street lighting.( But nobody wants to pay for these; Council Tax.)
Sami score 70% and Mubeen 30%
Shukr hai Karachi ko saaf krny ka faisla kiya hakomat ne.. mubeen bhai emaan mazboot ho tu banda koi chori chukari ni krta.. is encroachment se zeyada logon ko faida ho ga or kuch 1000-2000 logon berozgar ho ge.. jo berozgar hain unhain pta hai k wo jis jaga kam krty hain wo illegal hain.. or ap keh rahy hain k kuch 1000-2000 logo ki wajah se ye encroachment rokh dain jis se majority awam ko nuqsan hai.. tu ap galat hain.. har cheez step by step hoti hai.. hakomat ne sahi kam kiya hai k encroachment kr ke..
You first need to provide alternate sources of income for the affected people, bring them under the tax bracket and have them be 100% accountable for what they are doing, get the nearly non existent food authority to get off their lazy asses and work, it's not as simple as "emaan mazboot hoga to chori nahi karega" ye sab baatein in theory acchi hoti hein, lekinjab bhook se ap marrahe hogay aur apke paas do options honge, ya to chori karo, ya to phir bheek ka intezaar karo aur phir khane peene ki ashya khareedo, to ap chori hi karoge kiunke us waqt apka dimagh aur jism ye nahi soche ga ke ye cheez morally acceptable hai ya nahi, ap sirf jald az jald aik khane ka source talash karoge, North Korea mai itni be rozgari hogayi thi ke log apne bacho ko mar kar kha rahe thay, bhook sab se barri wajah hoti hai crime ki, aur ye baat fact hai, agar ap un hi logo ko aik system ke under le ayengein to apke paas morally strong standing point hoga ke apne inko system dia aur woh bande system ke tahet nahi chale to ap unka danda de sakte ho, agar apke paas solution naamki koi cheez sirre se hai hi nahi to ap kia karloge incomplete method apply karke?
Sir the argument is incomplete without the ground reality. I believe the problem is when government give notice to people before encroachment action, people will go to court for stay & delay.
GOOD JOB IMRAN KHAN AND THE TEAM.
Nice podcast but I agree with mubeen bahe nice video
Supporting muneeb bhai
when is next video?
In india temple and mazar , moshque everything shifts for development or I'm mean road !
People from other areas have come to karachi and ruined it. These people should respect the city if they want to earn from it.
Town ko yeh do gay phr ap check n bal kaisay kero gay????????
Play button kB ayengay?
Totally Agree with anti encroachment...
Wah! Pehla ad Josh danedar😂
Ad breaks in this video are more than the marks I secured in quiz
@@Khizar_Ansari lolzz
Hi! Great video Junaid bhai. Can you please share your equipment you use for podcast? Specially your microphone.
Mubeen point is valid because if government gave order to break the shops or fruit stalls they should have a solution for them because they are poor and they don't have jobs to earn money . So the crime rate will increase in case they don't provide them jobs or separate place for shops which will be legal .
Bhai mary ek shop ha Jo 2.5 years sa rent pay nahi jarahe thi but ap Allah ka shukar ha ka wo rent pay chali gay or jis nay ly ha wo footpath ma khara hota tha to hamaray halat sahe nahi tha or abe kuch sahe nahe ha but manay to koe galat Kam nahi Kiya bus Allah pa yakin Kiya or aj Allah ka shukar ha sahe hogaya to inshallah ya sub asay he hota raha🙂
"Ghareeb per sab ka khara hota hai".
Hamza Khan Kiya khara hota hai?
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Mubeen is right, hr br law k nam py gareeb ko pees diya jta, r jb bare choro daku ki bat hoti hai tu jamoriyat ko khatra tu kbhi kya tu kbhi kya. Hm agr sb laws ko gareebon se e implement krty rahen gy tu iska reaction bht khtrnak aey ga, hmy phly gareebon ko alternative source of income lazmi dy kr esa krna chaiye. Hr br gareeb e face kry r survive kry yh nhi chl skta.
First of all, just because someone is poor or rich, it doesn't give them the license to do whatever the heck they want. Secondly, the anti-encroachment effort should have started a long time back. Yes the people should be given an alternative place to re-establish their businesses; but in no way will a sane person agree to the fact that it's okay to build illegal shops, buildings or homes.
It should include the structures built by the rich and the poor. However, low income individuals should be helped to start their businesses again, and educated about the laws regarding this.
yeah jitnay log kay ray hein kay anti encroachment honi chahey pehlay insay yeah to pocho filer kitnay hein.secondly, state ki kia responsibility hai un logon ki taraf jo society mein itnay majboor hein kay road par business karein?
Statism is the Utopian ideal that just the right amount of violence used by just the right people in just the right direction can perfect society.
Keith Hamburger, as quoted in “The Myth of Limited Government: Anarchy Vs. Minarchy”, Jon Torres, Logical Anarchy, (August 12, 2014)
Abhi 1 lac affect horahay hain, agar 10 saal aur baad yeh drive hoti shayad dukaanain double hojati aur loug affected bhi double hotay. 20 saal pehle dukanain 250 thi abhi 1000 hogayi thi so its good abhi nimtadiya warna out of control hojata
6:30 bhai mere "ignorance of law is not an excuse"
agar thorra bohat parrha hota to yeh baat he na karta
Meny aj tk pakistan main food authority nhi dekhi...
I am with Mubeen Bhai...
Sb khali karo junaid bhai PM bn jao....
hamare nabour me ek
k m c oficer rehte hein har sal 5 lakh ki cow late hein apne ghr k around qabza kiya or pani ka plant lgaya
Masla yeh hai k jis ki bhe zaat involve ho gi Woh roye ga. Anti enroachment operation bht zbardast cheez h.
I agree more with Bhai in red shirt( I think his name is Sami).
Mobeen pr light sahi nhi parh rahi.