I watched this with my 61 year old Amma. We both couldn't stop laughing. Highly intelligent humour with constructive thoughts. Keep going bhai-loag, we need forward thinkers like you all.
I'll just say one thing, We live in a country where "content creator" like Ducky got 2.16M sub while folks like Junaid and Mooro haven't even reached 1M
Daniyal bhai india mein bhi carriminati is at more than 20 million , bb ki vines and many more also because of their comedy based content . whereas vloggers don't make the content which is about comedy they make it about themselves. india mein bhi top vlogger ke 4 million hee hai.
@@Nitish.Singhal sheep hai dono awam. Government sari bakchodia karein lekin awam ko ghans khanay say fursat milay to shakal uthakay dekhay kay what the hell is happening in the country 🤦♂️
I disagree with this, ducky bhai deserves what he got, this is what these people are talking about this whole time, let Ducky Bhai do his thing, Ducky Bhai being famous does not affect them in any way, shape or form, i have no idea why you posted this wierd comment here, please think again.
I think ducky bhai ki mostly audience 13 14 saal k teenagers hain jinho ne nayi nayi gaaliyan seekhi hoti hain aur unhe lgta hai galiyan dene se beizzati hojati hai but roasters like CBA and Awesamo speaks roast others creatively and in a much cleaner way. Hmre zyada tar UA-cam ki audience teenagers hai isi lie ducky bhai jese roasters k subscribers zyada hain.
Great Muhammad Ali is also a great over reactor and he's not able to set in any discussion table He's only knows to say "hann haaann haaan" 😂 and he can not want to lesson the point of view of any body against him. And very clearly he's showing that he comes 1st time in debate session.
Mr. Ali thinks he is the most learned person in the country denying the fact that there are much more qualified people who are running the show. I can guarantee many things that he might not be knowing. Making whatsapp group and edit a video doesnt make anyone eligible to make policies.
Bro , india did not banned tiktok because of its immoral content , it was banned because the indian govt. has some issues between the Chinese govt . Also as per US intelligence sources tiktok breaches the privacy of the users .
Junaid's podcast: *logically discuss why banning culture is wrong and present reasonable arguments* Some random person without watching the video: "TiKtOk bAn hOnA cHaHiE TiKtOk cAnCeR".
That astronaut point hit me hardest. As a teen i had a dream to be an astronaut and i was crazy about it. But every body was like pagal wagal ho gae ho kia. Doctor bano doctor and today i am 23 still confused about my career option.
Girl...... I just wanna say to you should choose the career which you want to choose Dont listen to these random psychos who are telling you to become a doctor when their knowledge about biology is "mitochondria is powerhouse of cell"
Dear Junaidbhai , Your conversation with other 2 guests covered different aspects of the ban on TikTok (Chinese owned) by Pakistan Telecom Authority (PTA) giving the reason that the app developers failed to remove “immoral content” from its platform. Some of the points raised during the podcast, like : -TikTok was popular among masses ( lower middle class or non-elitist), -hurting the income of a large number of these users, -Freedom of expressing creativity for masses and -Political agenda behind the ban, were thought-provoking for me. While reflecting on the ban on TikTok in India, above points slowly surfaces from subconscious terrain. India with 600+ million users of TikTok at the time of ban accounted for ~25% of global TikTok users, while Pakistan is around 40 million users. Indian gov banned TikTok giving the reason of Data security, as TikTok refused to localise the data in India and also refused to guarantee India that its data will not be shared with the Chinese government. All digital Chinese cos are legally bound to share data with the Chinese government, which is also a concern for the USA and other democratic countries. Above points are relevant for Indians too as millions of Indian TitkTok users have lost source of income. Not sure an alternative app has helped users for losses to be recouped. Indian gov also feared that TikTok was used by many during recent protests against CAA / Modi sarkar. Skirmishes with China on the border was last straw ..after which India banned 50+ Chinese apps including TikTok, so it was a political tool. Not sure actual reason(s) for PTA to ban TikTok, but surely it wasn’t just about "immoral content”, there is something more that is missing our eyes. Let us hope better sense prevails among PTA to lift the ban until a better alternative is made available to masses.
Thanks for appreciating India. My dad born in 1948, he has smart phone, using laptop after his retirement. I am in IT since last 20 years and I am discussing my technical issues with my dad. He understand what I am talking about.
@@MSthesmart Your argument doesn't address the question. You're being ignorant about that the fact that stage shows and mujras are one the so called main "Entertainment" sources of our society. Why be such a hypocrite?
@@UZEETM Excuse me, i am agreeing with you. You didn't understand me I was trying to say that جو لوگ کنجر خانے جا کر مجرا دیکھتے ہیں وہی تو جانتے ہیں کہ مجرا کیا ہوتا ہے۔
Well he is surrounded by mature adults whom he insults in the first thing he says. Insecurity must not give way to nonsense and abuse like this. All he says is the list of things our youth have acquired due to inexperience, narrow vision and individualism.
@@TheGreatMohammadAli ali bhai pata nahi kyun log apko bura bhala keh rahy hain keh rahy hain he was irritating but I guess they don't even know the "S" of sarcasm. Bhai agar ap nahi hoty na video main mazzaq ky ilawa bata raha hoon ky main podcast ko dafa kar 20-25 minute baad aur koi gaana waana laga deta had sy zyada boring hojaati pocast agar sirf mubeen aur junaid akele he baat kar rahy hoty.... Many appreciations to you brroooo.... 🔥 🔥 #THE_GREAT_ARMY #ITS_LAAATTT
The thing with all this banning is that there is a lack of exposure to everything. We may say that thing’s like clubs are haram and sheesha centers should be banned. But the truth is those who want to do it will do it regardless of whether it is haram or not. So the thing here is that the more a person is exposed to things around him/her, the more he/ she will normalize and realize what to do and not to do.
In India we have more than 6 methods of online payments- google pay, Amazon pay, BHIM UPI, paytm, phonepay, PayPal, and others. That’s happened bz of Jio n demonitization by Modi ji n his digital india scheme. You are doing great work n keep it up. Such podcast spread awareness.
I work in the government and I yesterday I asked my assistant to make a whatsapp group with all office staff in it. He said IT WILL BE DONE BY TOMORROW. Making a whatsapp group in a day? I am appalled!
😂 😂 😂 😂 I think you still didn't understand what they said..... Doctor ji usne kaha khud karo na.... Why are u telling ur assistant to do it 🤦♂️title se to doctor ho... Zara Akal se bhi kuch karlo
Best podcast! We need to educate our people instead of banning social media! Ali should have picked words a bit carefully! We should respect our institutions!
The guy who is laughing hilariously is behaving like a kid..immature. Don't know how to be act. He should also need the training how to behave when u are on show
He said thora sa quote him fully and it's temporary you will see side effects in your own life by your eyes too soon the way he's against farmers their foreign policy and their behavior with minorities
It is in the nature of a human being to see others in misery if the other is succeeding in another field. This experience is called schadenfreude. "It is not enough to succeed; others must fail." -Gore Vidal "Malice is like a game of poker or tennis; you don't play it with anyone who is manifestly inferior to you." -Hilde Spiel
India banned TIKTOK just because of the china issue and a risk of security breach..but there are multiple new platforms available where people could continue posting content. In india the reason was not the content it was the security issue..
It banned cause china captured land in ladakh and so india fought by banning a Chinese app but forgot that most of the population has made in china mobiles
mubeen is so irritating, he is repeating the things frequently , and both the guests are not even listening to each other bus bolna hai inko apna apna....
Bhai india mein bhi payment krne ke min 6 ways hote hai. Even small tea stall owners with just a stove accept online cashless payments . You can pay at all restaurants and food stalls cashless by payment wallets. You can pay it to buy kirana , to even a chole Puri stall. Aap tab tk digitise nhi ho skte jb tk aap ke pass sasta internet nhi hoga. India bhi Isis wajeh se digitise hota hai.
We have digital wallet and these even older then Paytm and easy paysa , Jazz Cash , Upay and even banking the main point is policy making bro We wants to get rid off old generation which does not know about anything
@@arslanaziz7249 Bhai digital payments le liye policy kya banani hai. Vo hr country mein already hoti hai. Digital paymentd toh log apni marzi krte hai you can't force them to go digital.
@@arslanaziz7249 it's not about which app is much older or newer. It's about market penetration. Even a rickshaw wala and chaat wala gives an option of online payment in India. From one QR code we can pay them via 6+ applications.
bhai to is baat ki confidence nai hai logon me k easypaisa, paytm jesi app use krke bhi wo payment kr skty, jo k government encourgement se hota aur agr use kr bhi len to paise hath me kese ayenge ku k majority choty businesses rickshaw wala ya sabzi wala in k bank account nai
Now we are living in a digital era so at least digital policies must be created by youngster's. By doing this power segmentation we can avoid conflicting.
We all must understand, tiktok was undoubtedly a source of millions, but at the same time it is negatively influencing the younger generations, inculcating anxiety in them. We must educate and regulate our masses before we leave them with such powerful tools. It is true govt should come up with a back up income source for the affectees.
If you want income streams for younger generations help them attain constructive skills. Entertainment is no doubt a requisite, so we all can and will support every talent that is worth supporting. Those who were distracting the younger generations with filth and Vulgarity must be boycotted both at individual level and state level.
@@TheDartholiver Because 90% people on tiktok were doing bullshit. KOI MIAN MAR KR FAMOUS HORA HAI KOI JHOTAY AFFAIR BANA KR KOI BARISH ME NACH KR KOI 14 SAAL KI LARKI SEXUALIZE KR RHI HA APNE AP KO. KOI DARHI RAKH KAR BACHIYON KE SATH MUJRA KR RAHA HAI. KOI GALIYAN DERA HAI. KOI TATTI KITI AY KEH KR FAMOUS HORA HAI. TEXIYAN TO SARI AYI HUE HAI TIKTOK PER. KOI PHLE PHLE NUDES VIRAL KRTI HAI PHIR USKO CASH KRTI HAI FAMOUS HOKER. KOI PAGALO WALA CONTENT BNA RAHA HAI NA JISKA KOI SENSE HAI BUS EK BACHI DAL DO USPE TIGHT KAPRO PE FAMOUS HO JAO GI VIDEO. ESAY CHUTIYAPE KI WAJA SE BAN HUE HAI. BILKUL THEEK
well put brother junaid...i was pro ban first due to my ignorance...and even ur 1st half of the video i thought the video was going in a wrong direction..but after knowing the whole context i agreed and got educated by you sir...i am a fan and always will be..great message sir...
I give you an example of famous optic store in Islamabad, they are based in G-6 sector and have been operating in that area for the past 40 years. As soon as you enter the shop, the first thing you notice is a sign that says’ we don’t accept credit or debit cards , cash only
@@anzar_imam_9 India me sab youtubers hi bolte rehta ha social issues par rape , parental gidence , etc. Local youtubers ko dheko wo log acha videos banate ha
Bhai india mein adhaar card se sub linked hota hai. It has all your 10 fingerprints ,retinascan too. You can get a sim in 2 mins just by simple finger scan . Bhai meine apna voter id 10 min online apply krke 1 hafte mein free mein ghr pe bhi agya. Even I got a PAN CARD WHIVH IS USED For tax paying. Ordered online by verifying my adhar card and in 15 mins it was done. In India everything is changing to digital rather then counter system. Aap 20 min apna naya electricity connection apply kr skte ho. You can even get all your documents online by a app called digilocker.jismein govt authorised departments se direct apne documents le skte hai. Like 10th marksheet,12 marksheet , driver license, car rc,voters card,income tax card etc.
Pakistan have technological resources and separate department Such as National Testing Service PPSC and FPSC and all of them have online system Main thing is Law making
It’s a simple thing that millennials are much better than Baby Boomers in understanding of internet usage and mobile Devices. In every aspect of life , there have always been a positive and a negative prospect. It’s better to provide the quality education ‘ which turns the mind set towards Creativity instead of Imposing Banning Culture.
So tiktok is not infringing on other countries information? bro it was done in response to china's border clash and there are like 100 apps they banned so its not just tiktok.And about what kiran said,Those youtubers cashed on clicks and views by showing themselves as nationalists and supporting the ruling govt.
@Shiv prasad before you bring in usa into tiktok ban,china and usa are at trade wars so they are just cashing in on the opportunity.The USA wants a local investment stake whereby a usa company which holds the operations (of tiktok usa) gets to keep the money inside usa.
As indian i barely went to bank and atm for cash each and every departmental store has upi code for online transaction now a days i hardly want a cash for buying something's even for 10 rupees chocolate i do google pay
@@hiqupgaming759 Lol. So you mean k podcast main etiquettes aur manners ki koi jaga nahi? Podcasts are where people talk casually. And it's a matter of having etiquettes that you shouldn't start speaking over someone in front of you, let them finish first.
Junaid bhai thanks for your advice. I'm gonna complete my post graduation in microbiology and biotechnology this year. Already got 2 years experience in a firm for job. I'm gonna apply for a job in Japan in a company for a microbiologist. I've been taking Japanese language classes for 2 months.
Simple Suggestion: Introduce Lateral Entry in the bureaucracy. In India, Govt. introduced some lateral entry and, after a period of time, this will be institutionalized.
I feel lucky to move abroad where my kid is learning Robotics for free in summer break from public library and this 6yr kid is discussing the possibilities. I am feeling so bad for Pakistan and it hurts to see Pakistan struggling in coping with the latest technologies.
Another thing, about Teerandazi, Horse riding and swimming, so we are advised by our Prophet S. A. W to learn these three sports. Our faith in his words is enough to believe that what ever he has said is obviously beneficial for us and will remain so ij every era.
I also understand that people are confused about the engagement and popularity thing. But quality and content still matters. There are a lot of factors involved.
Listened half of the video and wanna share my two cents about this podcast. Firstly about your disagreement with banning culture. So, every culture, every nation and every country has some morals or, code of conduct, or terms or whatever you can call it. The concept of "complete freedom" is illogical, inapplicable and most importantly devastating. If you guys think banning something is not justified, then imagine where it will take us in the long run. Even western countries which we idealize have their rules. Even US govt has announced Tik Tok ban, not for the same reasons though. So I am saying there is nothing wrong in banning culture. There is no place on earth where people have ultimate freedom.
@Tommy Vercetti as if Tik Tok is the only source of income for less privileged Pakistan and rest of the internet is dead in Pakistan.. 😁 Instead of gaining knowledge or learning skill, people are inclineing towards easy money. If everyone wants to earn through Tik Tok n kinda app, the world will collapse.. The future generations will not have any doctors, engineers, environmentalists or anyone else, only dancers n models to appease each other!!
The guy on the left seems very ignorant, he doesn’t have any strong points. You can’t just blame the government for everything. A lot of people in Pakistan just don’t know how to utilize their resources. Instead of using TikTok for anything useful, they started using it immorally. The people are to blame not the Government. All these people think that they know better than everyone else. People mentality need to change. I personally think this government is doing far better than majority of the past governments.
Yes the government currently is doing a FAR better job. But here's the problem: when you design your whole culture with dances and celebrations, for e.g every Pakistani movie has dances, so when you do these things it gives out a message that this is what we are. Which is extremely bad for.the youth because they aren't educated on what's the boundary that they shouldn't cross, and that's what you see on TikTok, youth doing dances and weird videos without knowing the boundaries of what they are doing. So instead of banning it, educate them. Don't just say stop or tell them to go fuck themselves, tell them what they are doing wrong. I agree with everything they said. The is country is frustrated, lost and confused on what things they should focus on. Media wants to focus on politics, fatway, war etc and the digital world (i.e UA-cam, TikTok, Insta) all have different goals and focuses. We aren't going for one specific thing. We are all divided. Rich doesn't want poor to succeed, poor is jealous of the rich etc. This is the problem of Pakistan. Instead of fixing it, the government are making it worse. And then the most ridiculous thing installed in our brains is that "elders are always right". Not to be sound rude, but elders don't know shit about the digital world, nevermind how to maintain it. They say it's all it's against our "culture". Ask them what's our culture. The same things you see online IS our culture now and the government doesn't want to do hard work into educating us on our culture and maybe convert us. But they too busy on teaching us what are floppy disks and bullshit like that. It's just unreal P.s sorry for this essay 😁, but I had to explain it
What is immoral? How do you define your morality? What may be immoral for you may be moral for me? Why do you want to impose the morality standards of your liking on others?
Normal Guy I like your response. Let’s be honest TikTok gained its popularity mostly from people doing dance and making funny videos. Pakistanis need to be blamed just as much as the Government. We live in a bubble and are completely oblivious of what’s going on around the world. I also agree with you that we don’t have much to do in Pakistan especially for the younger generation and tiktok was a gateway for them to have some fun. From young age the kids are taught about “mehangai, corruption, India, Israel” etc there’s no ideas or vision for the next generation. Digital world is the only way for us to explore the world without physically being there. Unfortunately tiktok was not used for that. Yes, I agree that should’ve educated people a little or maybe put limitation but not entirely ban it. The way tiktok is made you can’t necessarily put limitations on what the viewers can see and post. So banning was the only choice left. Lastly, I would say that we need to stop bringing religion into everything. That doesn’t necessarily mean that you should just do whatever you want and forget about religion. These molvies have literally destroyed Pakistan . The only people are to blame are the people of Pakistan. We need to change our mindset and unfortunately no one is willing to do that.
@@eagleeyes3884 that's not the important question. What's more important is that their society is free and nobody judges you. And unrelated, rape cases in Pakistan are more common than in US
The whole youth was going on this app. Every teen was using this and they are firstly going away from there religion secondly this is our youth. The thing is everyone is wasting their time in this and wasting their time. Youth hi Qoum ka sarmaya hei!
Khipk Sy acha pehli chez jo log krte the unke pas alag platforms hein wahn bhi kr skte hein woh but jo new youth hogi ab woh apne apko ruin nhi kr skenge.
We have common issues in both the countries but India is in far better situation n we are on right path anyhow very good conversation...good luck for Future Pakistani's brothers👍🇮🇳🇵🇰
far better situation? You just had police burnt dead body of poor rape victim under Bjp government, while police beat down, journalists, families and opposition over just meeting them or going into village. You country is run by upper caste who can kill and molest anyone.
there is a saying"If you are raising your children the way you were being raised then you are preparing them for a world that no more exists"
@@mushifalinawaz ni mtlab bat ni smjhni apni angrezi ki class de lo ap sai h...ap woi ho jo yeh babe jin ki bat hi ri hai idr podcast me.
@@mushifalinawaz if you're raising your children the way you were raised* khush?
Wow
@@baydah3868 well said bhai ! 🔥
This channel is too mature and responsible for our awam and 'budhe'
Tb
true af
Jbh
ua-cam.com/video/oqnl9d5vxlY/v-deo.html TIKTOK BANNED IN PAKISTAN 😭
Boomers*
"Ek Haqeeqat TV hai jahan har roz qayamat aa rahi hai." -Junaid Akram 2020 🤣🤣🤣
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@THE BEAST OF VENGEANCE ھھھ یار
پ چ کب کا ویٹ کر را اس مومنٹ کا پر ابھی تک نی بولا گیا یہ ڈائیلاگ گنجی سویگ کے منہ سے سُننا کیا ای بات
ھھھھھ آگیا
This was dialogue of Syed Muzammil Hassan
I watched this with my 61 year old Amma. We both couldn't stop laughing. Highly intelligent humour with constructive thoughts. Keep going bhai-loag, we need forward thinkers like you all.
Ali looks so annoying while intrupt between talk.
hn, woh junaid bhai ne aik mic Ali k neeche bhi aik mic de dia tha actually ...
@@jaybee4976 😅😅hahaha nice one
No cuts. No beeps. No censors.
Keep it Raw. Keep it Real.
Thanks Junaid
Beeps hn bhai
There are beeps chutiyeeeee
I'll just say one thing, We live in a country where "content creator" like Ducky got 2.16M sub while folks like Junaid and Mooro haven't even reached 1M
Daniyal bhai india mein bhi carriminati is at more than 20 million , bb ki vines and many more also because of their comedy based content . whereas vloggers don't make the content which is about comedy they make it about themselves. india mein bhi top vlogger ke 4 million hee hai.
@@Nitish.Singhal sheep hai dono awam. Government sari bakchodia karein lekin awam ko ghans khanay say fursat milay to shakal uthakay dekhay kay what the hell is happening in the country 🤦♂️
I disagree with this, ducky bhai deserves what he got, this is what these people are talking about this whole time, let Ducky Bhai do his thing, Ducky Bhai being famous does not affect them in any way, shape or form, i have no idea why you posted this wierd comment here, please think again.
Humari awaam ko gandgi Pasand hai
I think ducky bhai ki mostly audience 13 14 saal k teenagers hain jinho ne nayi nayi gaaliyan seekhi hoti hain aur unhe lgta hai galiyan dene se beizzati hojati hai but roasters like CBA and Awesamo speaks roast others creatively and in a much cleaner way. Hmre zyada tar UA-cam ki audience teenagers hai isi lie ducky bhai jese roasters k subscribers zyada hain.
"Abay ye Podcast bhi band krayga tu"
~Junaid Akram~
Muhammad Zain 😂😂😂
haan awein kuch ziada hi emotional huraha tha chuhay jaisay mo wala.
😂🤣
Muhammed zain😂😂😂
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Great Muhammad Ali is also a great over reactor and he's not able to set in any discussion table He's only knows to say "hann haaann haaan" 😂 and he can not want to lesson the point of view of any body against him. And very clearly he's showing that he comes 1st time in debate session.
Exactly
He's Great Overreacting Moron!
Mr. Ali thinks he is the most learned person in the country denying the fact that there are much more qualified people who are running the show. I can guarantee many things that he might not be knowing. Making whatsapp group and edit a video doesnt make anyone eligible to make policies.
Tum aajao ali ki jaga
That is why u still remember his name because he is loud ..
THIS IS THE FINEST CHANNEL EVER FOR THE ENTIRE YOUTH OF PAKISTAN.
When India banned tiktok, after a month now ten's app like tiktok such as josh, chingari etc. are as famous as tiktok.
moj app bhi hai ek
UA-cam Instagram pe aagaye 🤦😂
yeah bro gandage khatam nahi hoti .
Mx taka tak regularly advertisement on ipl
Bro , india did not banned tiktok because of its immoral content , it was banned because the indian govt. has some issues between the Chinese govt . Also as per US intelligence sources tiktok breaches the privacy of the users .
Interupting one another is so natural and unapologetically acceptable in Desi folks
..... that's how debates work
@@ordinaryguy3960 I'm sure trump would agree to that
I was hopefully looking for this one comment...lol.
@@ordinaryguy3960 truuuu.........
Junaid's podcast: *logically discuss why banning culture is wrong and present reasonable arguments*
Some random person without watching the video: "TiKtOk bAn hOnA cHaHiE TiKtOk cAnCeR".
Yeah Banning something unless it's against state or Nation is simply Stupid
They need to monitor,Make and Implement Law and do Counseling
Banning culture is not good but government could introduce policies against such people who post bad content on tiktok👍
@@abdurrehman7666 That's The Whole Point Man
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That astronaut point hit me hardest. As a teen i had a dream to be an astronaut and i was crazy about it. But every body was like pagal wagal ho gae ho kia. Doctor bano doctor and today i am 23 still confused about my career option.
Girl......
I just wanna say to you should choose the career which you want to choose
Dont listen to these random psychos who are telling you to become a doctor when their knowledge about biology is "mitochondria is powerhouse of cell"
Its Never "too late" u are still young just go for it
We’ve all been through that, don’t worry
Dear Junaidbhai ,
Your conversation with other 2 guests covered different aspects of the ban on TikTok (Chinese owned) by Pakistan Telecom Authority (PTA) giving the reason that the app developers failed to remove “immoral content” from its platform.
Some of the points raised during the podcast, like :
-TikTok was popular among masses ( lower middle class or non-elitist),
-hurting the income of a large number of these users,
-Freedom of expressing creativity for masses and
-Political agenda behind the ban,
were thought-provoking for me. While reflecting on the ban on TikTok in India, above points slowly surfaces from subconscious terrain.
India with 600+ million users of TikTok at the time of ban accounted for ~25% of global TikTok users, while Pakistan is around 40 million users. Indian gov banned TikTok giving the reason of Data security, as TikTok refused to localise the data in India and also refused to guarantee India that its data will not be shared with the Chinese government. All digital Chinese cos are legally bound to share data with the Chinese government, which is also a concern for the USA and other democratic countries.
Above points are relevant for Indians too as millions of Indian TitkTok users have lost source of income. Not sure an alternative app has helped users for losses to be recouped. Indian gov also feared that TikTok was used by many during recent protests against CAA / Modi sarkar. Skirmishes with China on the border was last straw ..after which India banned 50+ Chinese apps including TikTok, so it was a political tool.
Not sure actual reason(s) for PTA to ban TikTok, but surely it wasn’t just about "immoral content”, there is something more that is missing our eyes. Let us hope better sense prevails among PTA to lift the ban until a better alternative is made available to masses.
Thanks for appreciating India. My dad born in 1948, he has smart phone, using laptop after his retirement. I am in IT since last 20 years and I am discussing my technical issues with my dad. He understand what I am talking about.
You are lucky to have tech savvy dad...mine is retired school teacher...he cant use smartphone
@@tarunodaysarma9741 same bhai par wo khud information upload krte hai unke junior ka govt site pe. Ek scammer ko 4 din ghumaya humne milke😅😅
Ganji Swag is such a series, he talks technically, then I burst out laughing
"Tik tok pe mujra hai" these are the same people who have actually watched actual mujra at some point in their life.
Mujra daikha hai tu pata hai waha mujra hai
@@MSthesmart Your argument doesn't address the question. You're being ignorant about that the fact that stage shows and mujras are one the so called main "Entertainment" sources of our society. Why be such a hypocrite?
Bilkul sahi bola bro
@@UZEETM
Excuse me, i am agreeing with you. You didn't understand me I was trying to say that
جو لوگ کنجر خانے جا کر مجرا دیکھتے ہیں وہی تو جانتے ہیں کہ مجرا کیا ہوتا ہے۔
@@MSthesmart apologies
i wanna learn from GreatAli how to overreact And seek attention he is like "Ohhhhh" "Haannnnn" "Sahhhauiiii" abey bs kardey
Really annoying how Muhammad Ali doesn't let the other two speak and fails to utter his points sensibly.
Exactly what I was about to say
Well he is surrounded by mature adults whom he insults in the first thing he says. Insecurity must not give way to nonsense and abuse like this. All he says is the list of things our youth have acquired due to inexperience, narrow vision and individualism.
@@brazensmusings2738 nicely put into words 👍🏼
Black Vigo can be seen near by Ali's house. it's Lat .. hahaha
We dem vigo boyz. Its Lat 🙏🔝🍇🇵🇰
@@TheGreatMohammadAli ali bhai pata nahi kyun log apko bura bhala keh rahy hain keh rahy hain he was irritating but I guess they don't even know the "S" of sarcasm. Bhai agar ap nahi hoty na video main mazzaq ky ilawa bata raha hoon ky main podcast ko dafa kar 20-25 minute baad aur koi gaana waana laga deta had sy zyada boring hojaati pocast agar sirf mubeen aur junaid akele he baat kar rahy hoty.... Many appreciations to you brroooo.... 🔥 🔥 #THE_GREAT_ARMY
#ITS_LAAATTT
Pakistani : "Yeh Uncle"
Rest of World; "Ok Boomer!"
Fellow Weeb spotted!!! xD
Ewwww gintama
Hello fellow anime lover
This government should be on r/faceplam
Exactly
The thing with all this banning is that there is a lack of exposure to everything. We may say that thing’s like clubs are haram and sheesha centers should be banned. But the truth is those who want to do it will do it regardless of whether it is haram or not. So the thing here is that the more a person is exposed to things around him/her, the more he/ she will normalize and realize what to do and not to do.
Jo baat.
strongly agreed
In India we have more than 6 methods of online payments- google pay, Amazon pay, BHIM UPI, paytm, phonepay, PayPal, and others. That’s happened bz of Jio n demonitization by Modi ji n his digital india scheme. You are doing great work n keep it up. Such podcast spread awareness.
Hahahahah and even more than 20 payment app fail ya fir aquire ho chuki hai. But still we have long way to go
mukcool arora ...BHIM UPI n Google pay is very smooth n efficient. I use everyday.
Lawda ka demonetization successful hua, ghanta ka digital india ! Har kahi ke logic mat diya kr
I work in the government and I yesterday I asked my assistant to make a whatsapp group with all office staff in it. He said IT WILL BE DONE BY TOMORROW. Making a whatsapp group in a day? I am appalled!
😂 😂 😂 😂 I think you still didn't understand what they said..... Doctor ji usne kaha khud karo na.... Why are u telling ur assistant to do it 🤦♂️title se to doctor ho... Zara Akal se bhi kuch karlo
Masla "App" mein nahi Masla "Aap" mein hai ❤️
If they are afraid from “Mujra” and “Indecent Contents”, then they also should ban all Entertainment Channels.
ua-cam.com/video/oqnl9d5vxlY/v-deo.html TIKTOK BANNED IN PAKISTAN 😭
step by step (though we have wayyyyyy better things to ban than tiktok tho('ban', as in 'remove'))
Appreciate a Pakistani dude promoting chess here. ✌🏼
he was talking about "haris usmani" 14 years old boy
No,he was talking about hammad safi
They are debating about everything making it a comedy yet these things are so hurtful, i see no future if this keep on going ;(
Culture can also be presented with dressing,food,history..... Instead with dance....😅😅
Your people don't want that.
Best podcast! We need to educate our people instead of banning social media! Ali should have picked words a bit carefully! We should respect our institutions!
Haqqeqat TV PR roz qayamat ati hai😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Tum bhi ak yahoodi sazish ho
Muu ki baat cheen li
Hahahahhahahah
The guy who is laughing hilariously is behaving like a kid..immature.
Don't know how to be act.
He should also need the training how to behave when u are on show
Apne rishta krna hai us k ghar? jo bat kr rha hai wo uspe ghor karain.
bruh 🙄 this is a freestyle podcast. People can act in any way they want.
@@khurramsaleem3955 hahahahahha
the only thing he is trying to do is to capture junaid akram audience !!
He's the great Muhammad Ali. He's famous enough to do whatever he likes.
"modi ji ko lakh gaaliya dedo , pr unhone apne mulk ko uthaya he"
this line made my day 🤗
Time???
He said thora sa quote him fully and it's temporary you will see side effects in your own life by your eyes too soon the way he's against farmers their foreign policy and their behavior with minorities
@@demon3286 nice cope 🤣🤣
Just amazing! Wish everyone used their sense of humour, esp our government
Not just sense of humour but any sense at all!!
Stop watching news, our govt is very good for long term; don’t even compare with charsi khan
I thought I was the only person having problems with retired people on decision making positions. In academic institutions to be more specific
Haha all youth have😆😜
These (R) from one institution want to turn this country into a jail for the people.
It is in the nature of a human being to see others in misery if the other is succeeding in another field. This experience is called schadenfreude.
"It is not enough to succeed; others must fail." -Gore Vidal
"Malice is like a game of poker or tennis; you don't play it with anyone who is manifestly inferior to you." -Hilde Spiel
Always logical and crispy conversation!
Love to watch! 💯
India banned TIKTOK just because of the china issue and a risk of security breach..but there are multiple new platforms available where people could continue posting content. In india the reason was not the content it was the security issue..
It banned cause china captured land in ladakh and so india fought by banning a Chinese app but forgot that most of the population has made in china mobiles
Man with logical thought.
Bilkul
mubeen is so irritating, he is repeating the things frequently , and both the guests are not even listening to each other bus bolna hai inko apna apna....
Bhai india mein bhi payment krne ke min 6 ways hote hai.
Even small tea stall owners with just a stove accept online cashless payments .
You can pay at all restaurants and food stalls cashless by payment wallets.
You can pay it to buy kirana , to even a chole Puri stall.
Aap tab tk digitise nhi ho skte jb tk aap ke pass sasta internet nhi hoga.
India bhi Isis wajeh se digitise hota hai.
😲😲😲😲😲 really brother
We have digital wallet and these even older then Paytm
and easy paysa , Jazz Cash , Upay
and even banking the main point is policy making bro
We wants to get rid off old generation
which does not know about anything
@@arslanaziz7249 Bhai digital payments le liye policy kya banani hai. Vo hr country mein already hoti hai.
Digital paymentd toh log apni marzi krte hai you can't force them to go digital.
@@arslanaziz7249 it's not about which app is much older or newer. It's about market penetration. Even a rickshaw wala and chaat wala gives an option of online payment in India. From one QR code we can pay them via 6+ applications.
bhai to is baat ki confidence nai hai logon me k easypaisa, paytm jesi app use krke bhi wo payment kr skty, jo k government encourgement se hota aur agr use kr bhi len to paise hath me kese ayenge ku k majority choty businesses rickshaw wala ya sabzi wala in k bank account nai
Why on earth are people disliking this video? By far he is some of the few people that talks sense
Now we are living in a digital era so at least digital policies must be created by youngster's. By doing this power segmentation we can avoid conflicting.
We all must understand, tiktok was undoubtedly a source of millions, but at the same time it is negatively influencing the younger generations, inculcating anxiety in them. We must educate and regulate our masses before we leave them with such powerful tools. It is true govt should come up with a back up income source for the affectees.
They are just idiots. ISKO BS HAR CHEZ ME MSLA NAZAR ATA HAI AUR ISNE PODCAST BNANA HAI. SALAY KO YEH NAI PTA GALA AD BAN KYUN HUWA
@@Mianaly20 kyu huwi ban ye bata do
If you want income streams for younger generations help them attain constructive skills. Entertainment is no doubt a requisite, so we all can and will support every talent that is worth supporting. Those who were distracting the younger generations with filth and Vulgarity must be boycotted both at individual level and state level.
@@TheDartholiver Because 90% people on tiktok were doing bullshit. KOI MIAN MAR KR FAMOUS HORA HAI KOI JHOTAY AFFAIR BANA KR KOI BARISH ME NACH KR KOI 14 SAAL KI LARKI SEXUALIZE KR RHI HA APNE AP KO. KOI DARHI RAKH KAR BACHIYON KE SATH MUJRA KR RAHA HAI. KOI GALIYAN DERA HAI. KOI TATTI KITI AY KEH KR FAMOUS HORA HAI. TEXIYAN TO SARI AYI HUE HAI TIKTOK PER. KOI PHLE PHLE NUDES VIRAL KRTI HAI PHIR USKO CASH KRTI HAI FAMOUS HOKER. KOI PAGALO WALA CONTENT BNA RAHA HAI NA JISKA KOI SENSE HAI BUS EK BACHI DAL DO USPE TIGHT KAPRO PE FAMOUS HO JAO GI VIDEO. ESAY CHUTIYAPE KI WAJA SE BAN HUE HAI. BILKUL THEEK
Love how you guys discussed class and power dynamics of our society, Class conflict shapes our known society and politics.
well put brother junaid...i was pro ban first due to my ignorance...and even ur 1st half of the video i thought the video was going in a wrong direction..but after knowing the whole context i agreed and got educated by you sir...i am a fan and always will be..great message sir...
I give you an example of famous optic store in Islamabad, they are based in G-6 sector and have been operating in that area for the past 40 years. As soon as you enter the shop, the first thing you notice is a sign that says’ we don’t accept credit or debit cards , cash only
Plz don't cut off one another while speaking, it's very off-putting for the viewer.
Really yaar , banning apps is not the solution. We need to ban those persons who spreads unethical things on tiktok...
I never thought Pakistani UA-camr will have more sense compare to Indian youtuber
Pura pakistan me sirf akela banda ha . baki pakistani youtubers tatti ha
Sahi kaha kaash Junaid Bhai jaisa koi UA-camr India me bhi hota, jo yha ki ground reality aur cases pr video banata.
@@anzar_imam_9 India me sab youtubers hi bolte rehta ha social issues par rape , parental gidence , etc.
Local youtubers ko dheko wo log acha videos banate ha
Bhai india mein adhaar card se sub linked hota hai.
It has all your 10 fingerprints ,retinascan too.
You can get a sim in 2 mins just by simple finger scan .
Bhai meine apna voter id 10 min online apply krke 1 hafte mein free mein ghr pe bhi agya.
Even I got a PAN CARD WHIVH IS USED For tax paying. Ordered online by verifying my adhar card and in 15 mins it was done.
In India everything is changing to digital rather then counter system.
Aap 20 min apna naya electricity connection apply kr skte ho.
You can even get all your documents online by a app called digilocker.jismein govt authorised departments se direct apne documents le skte hai.
Like 10th marksheet,12 marksheet , driver license, car rc,voters card,income tax card etc.
Pakistan have technological resources
and separate department
Such as National Testing Service
PPSC
and FPSC
and all of them have online system
Main thing is Law making
@@arslanaziz7249 No main thing is implementation.
Without implementation , Law is just a line in constitution.
@@Nitish.Singhal agreed...
great going
Usually, I am unable to watch such long videos but honestly, I couldn't get off from here for a second. Such valid arguments presented. 💯
I learned software development from youtube and now I am 16 and earned my first income yesterday.
From which channel???
It’s a simple thing that millennials are much better than Baby Boomers in understanding of internet usage and mobile Devices.
In every aspect of life , there have always been a positive and a negative prospect.
It’s better to provide the quality education ‘ which turns the mind set towards Creativity instead of Imposing Banning Culture.
👍✌️
In India's case, the worst thing is most of the Indian UA-camrs celebrated the ban.
So tiktok is not infringing on other countries information? bro it was done in response to china's border clash and there are like 100 apps they banned so its not just tiktok.And about what kiran said,Those youtubers cashed on clicks and views by showing themselves as nationalists and supporting the ruling govt.
@Shiv prasad before you bring in usa into tiktok ban,china and usa are at trade wars so they are just cashing in on the opportunity.The USA wants a local investment stake whereby a usa company which holds the operations (of tiktok usa) gets to keep the money inside usa.
Flipkart is bought by Walmart not Amazon
Great podcast... it was really enlightening... Thank you
As indian i barely went to bank and atm for cash each and every departmental store has upi code for online transaction now a days i hardly want a cash for buying something's even for 10 rupees chocolate i do google pay
Too good podcast. All your podcasts are superb level.
Need these podcasts to go super super mass level change will come.
Black cap person disturbed this podcast too much. Not even allowing others to speak, why he is so over reacting . Irritating
Podcast ise hai bolte hai
@@hiqupgaming759 Lol. So you mean k podcast main etiquettes aur manners ki koi jaga nahi? Podcasts are where people talk casually. And it's a matter of having etiquettes that you shouldn't start speaking over someone in front of you, let them finish first.
stopped watching because of him after 3 minutes of podcast
cuz hes lat
This podcast really changed my mindset ♥️
Hi Junaid,
How do we contact you?. We need to speak to you related to an app promotion.
Regards
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Junaid bhai thanks for your advice. I'm gonna complete my post graduation in microbiology and biotechnology this year. Already got 2 years experience in a firm for job. I'm gonna apply for a job in Japan in a company for a microbiologist. I've been taking Japanese language classes for 2 months.
No one
Le Mobeen:-
34:14 Abi robot ko main ban krwaun ga, fatwa lagwaun ga, dekhna tum🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a video. Parhey likho aur mature logou mei aur jahil aur immature logou mei farq buhut asani sey dikh jata hai. Great video 👌
Junaid Akram, "Abay tu yea Podcast bhi ban karaeyga" ❣️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 @thegreatMohdAli behtreen👍🏽
Three guys having conversation, who are you listening to and who are you looking to constantly ?
Simple Suggestion: Introduce Lateral Entry in the bureaucracy.
In India, Govt. introduced some lateral entry and, after a period of time, this will be institutionalized.
Such an informative Podcast. Really enjoyed it. Makes us realise the reality we live in.
Haven't watched it yet but was very excited for this podcast. Banning culture is wrong. Let's see your thoughts on this incident. Here we goo ❤️
What the hell man. Too many people talking couldn’t understand what’s going on. Sound like everyone is yelling.
I feel lucky to move abroad where my kid is learning Robotics for free in summer break from public library and this 6yr kid is discussing the possibilities. I am feeling so bad for Pakistan and it hurts to see Pakistan struggling in coping with the latest technologies.
Wallah I love to listen to them. Aik dum zabardast and logical baatain ki hai.
Another thing, about Teerandazi, Horse riding and swimming, so we are advised by our Prophet S. A. W to learn these three sports. Our faith in his words is enough to believe that what ever he has said is obviously beneficial for us and will remain so ij every era.
Agree
islam ko bech dya paksitanio nei
Absolutely Right but inn burgers ku kaun samjhae ga.
Junaid Akram you are Gem. Unfortunately this is the reason you are underrated here...
The person with black hat is trying to show extra useless confidence.
I also understand that people are confused about the engagement and popularity thing. But quality and content still matters.
There are a lot of factors involved.
iska matlab ye nahi hota ke ban kar do
@@yeehaw4690 I mean in regards to long term value.
4:06 11:25 13:03 14:35 18:13 20:55 21:24 23:16 23:55 25:07 28:11 29:17 33:45 34:31 36:12 39:40 40:39 43:22 50:32
Listened half of the video and wanna share my two cents about this podcast.
Firstly about your disagreement with banning culture. So, every culture, every nation and every country has some morals or, code of conduct, or terms or whatever you can call it. The concept of "complete freedom" is illogical, inapplicable and most importantly devastating.
If you guys think banning something is not justified, then imagine where it will take us in the long run. Even western countries which we idealize have their rules. Even US govt has announced Tik Tok ban, not for the same reasons though. So I am saying there is nothing wrong in banning culture. There is no place on earth where people have ultimate freedom.
@Tommy Vercetti tik tok China Ka app hai bhaiii
@Tommy Vercetti as if Tik Tok is the only source of income for less privileged Pakistan and rest of the internet is dead in Pakistan.. 😁
Instead of gaining knowledge or learning skill, people are inclineing towards easy money. If everyone wants to earn through Tik Tok n kinda app, the world will collapse.. The future generations will not have any doctors, engineers, environmentalists or anyone else, only dancers n models to appease each other!!
Banning isn't equal to regulation! Regulation is necessary
watch the whole video
Proper debate should have been if a person doing balanced counter argument
The guy on the left seems very ignorant, he doesn’t have any strong points. You can’t just blame the government for everything. A lot of people in Pakistan just don’t know how to utilize their resources. Instead of using TikTok for anything useful, they started using it immorally. The people are to blame not the Government. All these people think that they know better than everyone else. People mentality need to change. I personally think this government is doing far better than majority of the past governments.
Yes the government currently is doing a FAR better job. But here's the problem: when you design your whole culture with dances and celebrations, for e.g every Pakistani movie has dances, so when you do these things it gives out a message that this is what we are. Which is extremely bad for.the youth because they aren't educated on what's the boundary that they shouldn't cross, and that's what you see on TikTok, youth doing dances and weird videos without knowing the boundaries of what they are doing.
So instead of banning it, educate them. Don't just say stop or tell them to go fuck themselves, tell them what they are doing wrong.
I agree with everything they said. The is country is frustrated, lost and confused on what things they should focus on. Media wants to focus on politics, fatway, war etc and the digital world (i.e UA-cam, TikTok, Insta) all have different goals and focuses. We aren't going for one specific thing. We are all divided. Rich doesn't want poor to succeed, poor is jealous of the rich etc. This is the problem of Pakistan. Instead of fixing it, the government are making it worse.
And then the most ridiculous thing installed in our brains is that "elders are always right". Not to be sound rude, but elders don't know shit about the digital world, nevermind how to maintain it. They say it's all it's against our "culture". Ask them what's our culture. The same things you see online IS our culture now and the government doesn't want to do hard work into educating us on our culture and maybe convert us. But they too busy on teaching us what are floppy disks and bullshit like that. It's just unreal
P.s sorry for this essay 😁, but I had to explain it
@@normalguy833 lol, I read your whole essay and I approve. 👍
Totally aggred. Has no manners how to talk on show.
What is immoral? How do you define your morality? What may be immoral for you may be moral for me? Why do you want to impose the morality standards of your liking on others?
Normal Guy I like your response. Let’s be honest TikTok gained its popularity mostly from people doing dance and making funny videos. Pakistanis need to be blamed just as much as the Government. We live in a bubble and are completely oblivious of what’s going on around the world. I also agree with you that we don’t have much to do in Pakistan especially for the younger generation and tiktok was a gateway for them to have some fun. From young age the kids are taught about “mehangai, corruption, India, Israel” etc there’s no ideas or vision for the next generation. Digital world is the only way for us to explore the world without physically being there. Unfortunately tiktok was not used for that. Yes, I agree that should’ve educated people a little or maybe put limitation but not entirely ban it. The way tiktok is made you can’t necessarily put limitations on what the viewers can see and post. So banning was the only choice left. Lastly, I would say that we need to stop bringing religion into everything. That doesn’t necessarily mean that you should just do whatever you want and forget about religion. These molvies have literally destroyed Pakistan . The only people are to blame are the people of Pakistan. We need to change our mindset and unfortunately no one is willing to do that.
Great Podcast 👍🏻.
Seems to have this kind of show after ages,great work sir.
Keep it up.
Blue cap one was giving some serious arguments & he makes sense.Great, plus no disrespect to other 2 ones. All were good🤘❤
He's mubeen
this man with LAT tag on his cap is nuisance.............
If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery and nudity common in the young generation.
- Salahuddin Ayubi
Is adultery and nudity common in US?
@@funnyhomemadefilms4145 Do you think its not?
@@eagleeyes3884 that's not the important question. What's more important is that their society is free and nobody judges you. And unrelated, rape cases in Pakistan are more common than in US
@@funnyhomemadefilms4145 Its very well described and known to everyone ... even by its name. Not a rocket science to depend on how to describe.
@@eagleeyes3884 What's very well described?
Ironically I got likee app add (the third class copy of tiktok) right before watching this video,
24.20 can anyone tell which show or documentary Junaid is referring to
Ye 2 log kon hain in k UA-cam channel knsy hain??
First time I disagree with Junaid. even TikTok should ban 1 year before.
Reason?
The whole youth was going on this app. Every teen was using this and they are firstly going away from there religion secondly this is our youth. The thing is everyone is wasting their time in this and wasting their time. Youth hi Qoum ka sarmaya hei!
Ban karna theek nahi hai
Ahmed Raza mere bhai phr koi or solution?
Haan ab ban kernay say to woh bachay tableeghi jamat main jana shroo kerdengay na?
Khipk Sy acha pehli chez jo log krte the unke pas alag platforms hein wahn bhi kr skte hein woh but jo new youth hogi ab woh apne apko ruin nhi kr skenge.
Yeh sab bachai walai nahi is liyai in ko problem nahi, jab bachai houn gai tou phir fikr hogi kai apni kia aulad chor kai jain gai yeh log
We have common issues in both the countries but India is in far better situation n we are on right path anyhow very good conversation...good luck for Future Pakistani's brothers👍🇮🇳🇵🇰
far better situation? You just had police burnt dead body of poor rape victim under Bjp government, while police beat down, journalists, families and opposition over just meeting them or going into village. You country is run by upper caste who can kill and molest anyone.
I want another podcast with Great Muhammad Ali and Mubeen Shaikh. This is so informative and really some inspiration.
Mubeen sahab kisi ko bolnay hi nahi deray yr that's unethical khair that was a good convo/discussion 👍
I think these guys seems far away from reality...
they live in the real pakistan,not the bubble you may be residing in.
Guys don't go to UA-cam search bar and type in "kya mard" biggest mistake of my life 🤢🤮
This was your 1st podcast which i watched fully! I loved it, keep people educated about these facts👍🏻👍🏻
@42:34 Very well said.
"A world without freedom of speech is a world of slavery and tyranny" - JP
Maza aa gaya yr.. Amazing.. Mubeen is always amazing