Very cool. Yeah... the techniques aren't different. Same concept. I used to do assistant editing on an Avid. Haven't used it for a while though. Thanks for watching.
Gave me some great ideas on how to approach editing a scene I am working on. Always interesting how many different ways this art can tackled. THANKS CHINFAT! Just subscribed!.
Majority of my filmmaking process questions were answered from this one video .. lol I’ve watched so many other videos for different things. I CAME HERE looking for answers on here to edit dialogue for movies/ films. But also had questions on how many times do actors play out the scene from different angles and takes, the whole scene ?etc.. then how do you sync Audio with all these different cuts and takes of the same scene. Hear some one else audio in the others persons over the shoulder shot etc.. then jump to the other person etc.. YOU HAVE BEEN A BIG HELP.. I’ma a cinematographer background in music videos NOW going into film production and editing. ALSO I’m filming a short film wearing many different hats but would really like to have this fluidity with cuts audio and syncing dialogue to match with video footage. I have a storyboard full a sequences and shots so I kind of know where the cuts from different angles need to be and how the shot is composed. I GUESS theres a reason why movies take a long time to film.. AS MANY TAKES AS POSSIBLE TO GET IT RIGHT.
Brilliant guide! The only guide I’ve seen on UA-cam that properly teaches how to edit dialogue in post👍 Just got a question about combining the footage - when you switch from Brian to Paul how come there wasn’t any abrupt audio stops? Since the audio was essentially recorded separately ? Additionally, what if Brian decides to walk around the room during his dialogue ?
That's what the portion of this tutorial on L-Cuts and J-Cuts is doing. Those help to cut to the next angle while the audio extends through the cut. If a character walks around the walk, then the boom operator would have to extend the boom and follow over the head of the character.
chinfat So I should follow the actor with the camera whilst he’s walking around? Do I just apply the same concept as your video shows even if the actor is walking ?
@@AdaptedStudios Yes. You can follow the same concept. If the actor walks, the camera can pan, tilt, be on a dolly, go hand-held. You'd likely shoot a wide master (the audio usually is not as good on the wide shots) and then a medium shot or close up. on that same actor. The mic would follow the actor, wherever they walk while they are on camera.
chinfat Ok thanks for the input. And what about the second actor during the walk of the first actor? Should I keep him slightly in frame as you would do in a OTS? ?
@@AdaptedStudios Typically, if the 2nd actor just walks in front, if they are facing away from the camera, you'd get their audio on the OTS, yes. Sometimes, the camera may switch from one actor to another in one shot. In that case, the mic would change from actor to actor as the camera does so. In more complex situations, where there are multiple actors and interruptions and overlapping dialogue, hidden wireless on each actor would be required. Then you need a sound cart with a mixer and recorder that is capable of recording multiple channels.
In some instances... yes. But you will compromise the art of cinematography by having to change the angle to not see the other camera(s). DP's will argue that they want every shot to be perfectly composed to tell the story. If you go multicam, you are compromising the shots... even if it's a subtle compromise. This comes from the preachings of many professional cinematographers. ua-cam.com/video/Q5fmLe6kRnE/v-deo.html
this is a great tutorial thank u! i do have a question though... i see how you managed to play around with the audio but i don't understand how you can do that in case that both characters are shouting at each other or speaking at the same time, in that the audio/video can be a mess and even impossible to connect together and show many angles at the same dialogue am i right?
In a case with a scene wherever everyone is talking/yelling over each other, every actor would have to have a wireless mic on their person. The audio recordist would record each mic to its own isolated channel. They may even decide to shoot the scene with 2 to 3 cameras as well. It helps enormously to have the actors block and rehearse and then.... DO NOT CHANGE OR IMPROV ANY LINES. Once they've nailed they blocking, they have to do it the exact same for each take. Professional screen actors become really really good at that. It worse comes to worse in the edit, they may bring the actors in you a looping/adr session after the edit has been finished.
Hi @chinfat ... thanks alot for these tutorials, I have learnt much from your videos!....I have a question. How do you go about choosing to use the lav or boom from dialogue when the actors are being recorded using both mics?
@@chinfat You have been very kind, really. Many many thanks. I'm learning to edit with DaVinci Resolve. Thousands of tutorials of tips about editing techniques, but very very few about something so neccesary as narrative and grammar of editing, all those concepts you are teaching us. Thanks again!
Hello Chinfat. Can I ask you a question irrelevant to the video above? I'm working on premiere pro cs6 and I'm trying to work an mxf sequence which was exported from cc 17. The thing is, it stucks all the time and at the end the program shuts down by its own. I tried opening the sequence alone in another project, without any other sequences, but after a while I still got the error message. Any suggestions please?? Thank you in advance.
can anyone link chinfat vid about separate audio files and matching them up in PP? This channel seems awesome. I love how he tells us the keybnoard shortcuts, its like I remember thorugh audio and not visual charts
What happens when you have two people speaking over each other, like an argument. So if you’re using the track for Person A, you’ll still be able to hear Person B’s lines being delivered. If you want Person B to say something at the same time as Person A, how do you use Person B’s track while still keeping it in sync with the same lines that can be heard in the background of Person A’s
In that case, it's best to use a wireless setup on the actors, which is quite common on sets these days. The mics are recorded as individual tracks. It's also a good idea to have the actors rehearse the scene a lot, so they have the timing down pat. That will make it a lot easier on the editor.
Great and helpful info. Thanks. Question if you know it, I'm helping someone with a comedy sitcom, using low-no budget. They have one maaaaybe two iPhones. 10 or so people have dialogues. What is the best way to shoot everyone from ? angles to be able to knock this out in a day? thanks!
It depends. If the project is more improv or sitcom style, if you have two iPhones, you could shoot over the shoulder for the 2 subjects. Just angle the phones, so they cannot see the other camera. If it's blocked out and no improv (dialogue is memorized and movement will be identical for each setup), you can shoot two phones side by side (one medium shot, one close up) and that's a way to knock out 2 angles at once.
@@chinfat Thanks. So, the thing is that there is one iPhone, (possibly two) the lead, the teacher is MC/lead, but there will be like 10 students doing dialogue. Not only 2. How would I be able to get all the angles w/out shooting the whole episide 10 times, LOL. ? :)
SubsFirst of all really nice Content. I am starting right now with PremierePro, learning the basics and you are helping me pretty well. Subscription checked! Is the practice footage still available, because I cannot find it with the link? Thank you!
For my voice over or for the scene of dialogue? I used the Razor Kraken 7.1 V2 Gaming headset. For the dialogue scene, we used an AKG Compact Supercardioid Condenser Microphone C430.
Not a re-upload. Updated and redone. I added the new feature of JKL on-the-fly dynamic trimming which was added to Premiere last year (thanks to Walter Murch's request to Adobe). Thanks for watching!
I just tested them. They seem to work fine when i import them into Premiere. The will not play back in Windows Media Player, VLC, or Quicktime. they need to be played back in premeire.
@@leaper1983 Ahhh.... crud. Yes. FCP X supports MXF with version 10.1.4. Are you up-to-date? You also need to update your codecs. Follow the instructions from the following video: ua-cam.com/video/uISe-lR5sSc/v-deo.html
the ripple training video mentions the pro video formats update. I believe I have it already. I downloaded a link to it and it says it can't be installed because i have the newest version of fcp x
When I play the video in the source panel, the audio is okay. But when I step backward/ forward I cannot hear the audio, so I cannot find where my speech starts. Do you happen to know how to fix it? Thank you!
Thanks, I like that you showed the script and camera angles then brought it home with the edits.
Probably the best available tutorial on this subject on the internet . Many thanks for your work in producing this .
This is a WEALTH of information. Thank you!
This is the video I was searching for a long time.... Thanks a lot
Extremely helpful tutorial. Practical and well presented encompassing really useful use of tools and paced so you can actually follow it!
I'd like to thank you for this great introduction to film-making.
I'm amazed at how you give such a perfect explanation in so little time.
Really useful. I am using Avid, but was able to apply same techniques and having the footage to download was a real bonus. Thanks
Very cool. Yeah... the techniques aren't different. Same concept. I used to do assistant editing on an Avid. Haven't used it for a while though.
Thanks for watching.
Gave me some great ideas on how to approach editing a scene I am working on. Always interesting how many different ways this art can tackled. THANKS CHINFAT! Just subscribed!.
Thanks sir actually we were going to shoot a short film so your video helped a lot for me being a cinematographer and editor 😊😊
Thank you SO MUCH!!!!! The only channel on UA-cam that goes so in depth.
our best favorite video on youtube ever
really liked your process flow.
Majority of my filmmaking process questions were answered from this one video .. lol I’ve watched so many other videos for different things. I CAME HERE looking for answers on here to edit dialogue for movies/ films. But also had questions on how many times do actors play out the scene from different angles and takes, the whole scene ?etc.. then how do you sync Audio with all these different cuts and takes of the same scene. Hear some one else audio in the others persons over the shoulder shot etc.. then jump to the other person etc.. YOU HAVE BEEN A BIG HELP.. I’ma a cinematographer background in music videos NOW going into film production and editing. ALSO I’m filming a short film wearing many different hats but would really like to have this fluidity with cuts audio and syncing dialogue to match with video footage. I have a storyboard full a sequences and shots so I kind of know where the cuts from different angles need to be and how the shot is composed. I GUESS theres a reason why movies take a long time to film.. AS MANY TAKES AS POSSIBLE TO GET IT RIGHT.
Great tutorial with advanced j cuts and l cuts
This was so simple, straight on and pedagogical! Thank you!
Helpful, thanks!
Brilliant guide! The only guide I’ve seen on UA-cam that properly teaches how to edit dialogue in post👍
Just got a question about combining the footage - when you switch from Brian to Paul how come there wasn’t any abrupt audio stops? Since the audio was essentially recorded separately ?
Additionally, what if Brian decides to walk around the room during his dialogue ?
That's what the portion of this tutorial on L-Cuts and J-Cuts is doing. Those help to cut to the next angle while the audio extends through the cut. If a character walks around the walk, then the boom operator would have to extend the boom and follow over the head of the character.
chinfat So I should follow the actor with the camera whilst he’s walking around? Do I just apply the same concept as your video shows even if the actor is walking ?
@@AdaptedStudios Yes. You can follow the same concept. If the actor walks, the camera can pan, tilt, be on a dolly, go hand-held. You'd likely shoot a wide master (the audio usually is not as good on the wide shots) and then a medium shot or close up. on that same actor. The mic would follow the actor, wherever they walk while they are on camera.
chinfat Ok thanks for the input. And what about the second actor during the walk of the first actor? Should I keep him slightly in frame as you would do in a OTS? ?
@@AdaptedStudios Typically, if the 2nd actor just walks in front, if they are facing away from the camera, you'd get their audio on the OTS, yes. Sometimes, the camera may switch from one actor to another in one shot. In that case, the mic would change from actor to actor as the camera does so. In more complex situations, where there are multiple actors and interruptions and overlapping dialogue, hidden wireless on each actor would be required. Then you need a sound cart with a mixer and recorder that is capable of recording multiple channels.
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much...
great tutorial, many thanks for the practice files as well!
thanks so much bro! this is exactly what i was looking for. you answered all the questions i had!
nice tutorial, but i think multicam editing will be the best for dialog editing, this process will take a whole lot of time to edit a complete movie
In some instances... yes. But you will compromise the art of cinematography by having to change the angle to not see the other camera(s). DP's will argue that they want every shot to be perfectly composed to tell the story. If you go multicam, you are compromising the shots... even if it's a subtle compromise. This comes from the preachings of many professional cinematographers. ua-cam.com/video/Q5fmLe6kRnE/v-deo.html
@@chinfat Thanks for clarification, i will be following this your process, since you said that is the best industry standard.
this is a great tutorial thank u! i do have a question though... i see how you managed to play around with the audio but i don't understand how you can do that in case that both characters are shouting at each other or speaking at the same time, in that the audio/video can be a mess and even impossible to connect together and show many angles at the same dialogue am i right?
In a case with a scene wherever everyone is talking/yelling over each other, every actor would have to have a wireless mic on their person. The audio recordist would record each mic to its own isolated channel. They may even decide to shoot the scene with 2 to 3 cameras as well. It helps enormously to have the actors block and rehearse and then.... DO NOT CHANGE OR IMPROV ANY LINES. Once they've nailed they blocking, they have to do it the exact same for each take. Professional screen actors become really really good at that. It worse comes to worse in the edit, they may bring the actors in you a looping/adr session after the edit has been finished.
@@chinfat i was hoping for an easy fix 😂 thanks man
love it!
Hi @chinfat ... thanks alot for these tutorials, I have learnt much from your videos!....I have a question. How do you go about choosing to use the lav or boom from dialogue when the actors are being recorded using both mics?
very detailed video thank you
This is GREAT! Thank you very much
Thanks for the tip sir. Very useful information
Hi, I've seen the Drive folder with the footage is not the anymore. Is possible to get it? Thanks in advance
drive.google.com/file/d/13BTQqJ3dDXyZQPTS8zrRqfvGIRcKAb6S/view?usp=sharing
@@chinfat You have been very kind, really. Many many thanks. I'm learning to edit with DaVinci Resolve. Thousands of tutorials of tips about editing techniques, but very very few about something so neccesary as narrative and grammar of editing, all those concepts you are teaching us. Thanks again!
@@roryrandom8339 Thanks for watching.
Awesome 👍 tutorial
can you update the link please and thank you
You made it so easy. Thank you !!
how can i do match line in DaVinci?
How would I edit if say I used PluralEyes to sync and all the shots are in the same timeline?
Hello Chinfat. Can I ask you a question irrelevant to the video above? I'm working on premiere pro cs6 and I'm trying to work an mxf sequence which was exported from cc 17. The thing is, it stucks all the time and at the end the program shuts down by its own. I tried opening the sequence alone in another project, without any other sequences, but after a while I still got the error message. Any suggestions please?? Thank you in advance.
What's the name of the film! I need to see what happened. Where can I find this?... Lifetime?
A short film (20 minutes) from about 10 years ago. ua-cam.com/video/Qh0E0cPQ3To/v-deo.htmlsi=JlS0QG7qch7OK8wl
Hello! Loved the video. But the .Mxf files ain't playing in the Google Drive link you provided even after downloading them.
thank cằm béo.. you are the best teacher onl
cằm béo. my new name!
@@chinfat translate to vietnam is" cằm béo "..
@@racingboyhanoi I hope you are well.
can anyone link chinfat vid about separate audio files and matching them up in PP? This channel seems awesome. I love how he tells us the keybnoard shortcuts, its like I remember thorugh audio and not visual charts
ua-cam.com/video/yJhs8bWsF8I/v-deo.html
Hopefully, this is the one you are looking for.
What happens when you have two people speaking over each other, like an argument. So if you’re using the track for Person A, you’ll still be able to hear Person B’s lines being delivered. If you want Person B to say something at the same time as Person A, how do you use Person B’s track while still keeping it in sync with the same lines that can be heard in the background of Person A’s
In that case, it's best to use a wireless setup on the actors, which is quite common on sets these days. The mics are recorded as individual tracks. It's also a good idea to have the actors rehearse the scene a lot, so they have the timing down pat. That will make it a lot easier on the editor.
how do you make the pannel on the left corner appear fully do you double click on the video cause when I do it it doesn't work can somebody help me?
Great and helpful info. Thanks. Question if you know it, I'm helping someone with a comedy sitcom, using low-no budget. They have one maaaaybe two iPhones. 10 or so people have dialogues. What is the best way to shoot everyone from ? angles to be able to knock this out in a day? thanks!
It depends. If the project is more improv or sitcom style, if you have two iPhones, you could shoot over the shoulder for the 2 subjects. Just angle the phones, so they cannot see the other camera. If it's blocked out and no improv (dialogue is memorized and movement will be identical for each setup), you can shoot two phones side by side (one medium shot, one close up) and that's a way to knock out 2 angles at once.
@@chinfat Thanks. So, the thing is that there is one iPhone, (possibly two) the lead, the teacher is MC/lead, but there will be like 10 students doing dialogue. Not only 2. How would I be able to get all the angles w/out shooting the whole episide 10 times, LOL. ? :)
SubsFirst of all really nice Content. I am starting right now with PremierePro, learning the basics and you are helping me pretty well. Subscription checked!
Is the practice footage still available, because I cannot find it with the link?
Thank you!
I've started doing that on my recent episodes because of many requests. If it's available, I put the links in the description.
chinfat nice, thank you! And keep on striving
good job
How are you gonna remove the hissing sound when there's no dialogue?
You might have to use DeNoise, DeHum, or some other noise reduction tool. Maybe even EQ.
Can you provide with the full movie rushes to edit and not just of this one scene ?
really good tutorials! thanks!
Very, very good!! Thanks for making this.
what mic did you use? sounds amazing
For my voice over or for the scene of dialogue? I used the Razor Kraken 7.1 V2 Gaming headset. For the dialogue scene, we used an AKG Compact Supercardioid Condenser Microphone C430.
@@chinfat dialogue scene..and thank you..sounds great
@@GleezoVision Cool. Thanks for watching.
Exactly what I was looking for. 😉
Do you eventually slip the dialogue of your actors, (say you had 3 in the scene.) to their own audio tracks, ever?? Thanks for video.
great tutorial right there!
you are very good thx alot
Great job. Merci.
What screen recording software did you used sir ?
OBS. Free and works wonderfully. obsproject.com/
Awesome job!
Another great instrucion
AMAZING!
Thanks you for the good explanation.
Thats very helpful sir... thanks
Super helpful. Thank you
google drive link down.plz update link
Link is now updated.
Very Awesome
Want more free footages.
hey chinfat is that u pushing the cart man?
It is me. Rock on.
Thank you
Is this a re-upload?
I got my hopes up for nothing :(
Video is good btw!
Not a re-upload. Updated and redone. I added the new feature of JKL on-the-fly dynamic trimming which was added to Premiere last year (thanks to Walter Murch's request to Adobe). Thanks for watching!
the google drive link files have mxf files that are audio only
I just tested them. They seem to work fine when i import them into Premiere. The will not play back in Windows Media Player, VLC, or Quicktime. they need to be played back in premeire.
@@chinfat what about final cut pro x
@@leaper1983 Ahhh.... crud. Yes. FCP X supports MXF with version 10.1.4. Are you up-to-date? You also need to update your codecs. Follow the instructions from the following video: ua-cam.com/video/uISe-lR5sSc/v-deo.html
@@chinfat I have the newest version of FCP X at 10.4.4. How do I update my codecs?
the ripple training video mentions the pro video formats update. I believe I have it already. I downloaded a link to it and it says it can't be installed because i have the newest version of fcp x
Thank you very much very helpful
Excenlente!!!
thanks sir
Best
When I play the video in the source panel, the audio is okay. But when I step backward/ forward I cannot hear the audio, so I cannot find where my speech starts. Do you happen to know how to fix it? Thank you!
Try going under the preferences, then under the Audio section and make sure 'Play audio while scrubbing' is check-marked. Hopefully that does it.
@@chinfat I got it. Thank you so so much!
ok thanks boomer
You're welcome, Trump supporter.
Great work !