For a fixed blade that is meant for hard outdoor use , a steel that is a bit on the softer side,ie tougher, is better than a steel which is super hard but brittle. If its easy to touch up to razor sharp, and holds a good working edge then thats good
Very interesting results and I like that you mentioned the difference between inticial sharpness vs working sharpness. 👍 Thanks for sharing, take care and Cheers!
N695 when heat treated at best is same (equivalent) as 440C which is decent but dated, replaced by AUS8A, ATS34/CM 154 in the '90s. Boker Solingen is premium and their Spanish, Chinese, and Argentinian counterparts are less (probably heat treat at the foundry is my guess), my experience. The 1905 Boker I have is N695/440C and holds a great edge but the geometry is crazy thin and the hardness is 60-61. That is a whopper of a blade you are using, my guess it is on the softer side, Argentinian? again just a guess.
That lets me know where mine stands...Thanks. My 3V blades seem to lose that keen edge quickly also, especially my Benchmade’s. I tried your paper towel trick...it only seems to like my toothy edges. My fine polished edges don’t like you’re the paper towel test much. I have a few Cold Steel XHP blades that continue to amaze me how long they hold that scary sharp edge.
Yeah I’ve got a couple of kizers in this steel and it’s legitimately why I WONT get the GMF-1. It’s not bad for some kind of light edc use but if you like crisp edges you’re gonna be at the worksharp every damn week.
I think everyone has become way to obsesed with cutting paper and rope. " no disrespect to the channel beacuse I love this channel" But yous are so obsessed with " the next best steel" and then fighting about it in the comments. I have over 70 knives and alote are so called super steels. In the end I like nitro v for edc " yes over magna cut and s35vn" and 1095 when im backpacking and outdoors. Every knife gets dull.... learn to sharpen them in the field and on the go beacuse most of these steel compositions are very simular it might suprise you. But pick a brand known for their heat treatments beacuse that usualy matters more then steel type
@@peterbiltknifeguy that’s good to know. Thats been my experience so far as well. I haven’t had enough time with it yet though either. Seems to be on par with VG-10 or AUS10. I have a scout junior in it.
They say it’s on par with 440c at its best. So can’t expect much from it. It may hold a decent working edge for a while. I’m just testing for that razor sharpness loss
Lol this is worse than both 420hc and that harbor freight Chinese steel, though chemically speaking it’s supposed to have better edge retention than both
For a fixed blade that is meant for hard outdoor use , a steel that is a bit on the softer side,ie tougher, is better than a steel which is super hard but brittle.
If its easy to touch up to razor sharp, and holds a good working edge then thats good
Really!!! Thnx, learned something new...
Good thing I come to this channel before I make a purchase
Very interesting results and I like that you mentioned the difference between inticial sharpness vs working sharpness. 👍 Thanks for sharing, take care and Cheers!
Yeah. I’m trying to be as honest as possible
N695 when heat treated at best is same (equivalent) as 440C which is decent but dated, replaced by AUS8A, ATS34/CM 154 in the '90s. Boker Solingen is premium and their Spanish, Chinese, and Argentinian counterparts are less (probably heat treat at the foundry is my guess), my experience. The 1905 Boker I have is N695/440C and holds a great edge but the geometry is crazy thin and the hardness is 60-61. That is a whopper of a blade you are using, my guess it is on the softer side, Argentinian? again just a guess.
It is Argentina
@@peterbiltknifeguy Ah shucks that N695 is so bad..... I'll buy it off ya at a discount and dispose of it properly if you don't need it any more ;D
That lets me know where mine stands...Thanks. My 3V blades seem to lose that keen edge quickly also, especially my Benchmade’s. I tried your paper towel trick...it only seems to like my toothy edges. My fine polished edges don’t like you’re the paper towel test much. I have a few Cold Steel XHP blades that continue to amaze me how long they hold that scary sharp edge.
I’ll be doing the ZT 3v to see how it compares to cold steels.
Do you find XHP to be difficult to sharpen?
@@The9toes haven’t tried yet
@The9toes...XHP is fairly easy to sharpen, it also strops back easily.much like D2 and/or S35vn.
Yeah I’ve got a couple of kizers in this steel and it’s legitimately why I WONT get the GMF-1. It’s not bad for some kind of light edc use but if you like crisp edges you’re gonna be at the worksharp every damn week.
Fair at best with 10 , and its such a good design to the look of the knife that it's awful to know it has such awful edge retention.
Well to be fair. It may hold a good working edge longer
Would love to see you do SPY27, I’m curious if my experience with it is what others find.
Big bad wolf fizzled out way too soon....What a bummer....Nice testing....Go butter....Good stuff....
Everyone needs a super sharp butter cutter lol. Thanks Scott
@@peterbiltknifeguy 👍👍
I think everyone has become way to obsesed with cutting paper and rope. " no disrespect to the channel beacuse I love this channel"
But yous are so obsessed with " the next best steel" and then fighting about it in the comments.
I have over 70 knives and alote are so called super steels. In the end I like nitro v for edc " yes over magna cut and s35vn" and 1095 when im backpacking and outdoors. Every knife gets dull.... learn to sharpen them in the field and on the go beacuse most of these steel compositions are very simular it might suprise you. But pick a brand known for their heat treatments beacuse that usualy matters more then steel type
That’s brutal. Have you tried Boker’s N690?
I have
@@peterbiltknifeguy how did you find its edge holding compared to n695?
@@gravytrainoutdoors it seems decent. But I haven’t tested it thoroughly yet
@@peterbiltknifeguy that’s good to know. Thats been my experience so far as well. I haven’t had enough time with it yet though either. Seems to be on par with VG-10 or AUS10. I have a scout junior in it.
Great test
Thank you!
should be in the ranks of 440c i guess
Too bad that's a good looking knife
Still was cutting the rope pretty good. You take this out and test it? Wood etc?
I have taken it out and chopped with it. It will keep a workable edge for a little while. But it goes from razor sharp to working edge super fast
@@peterbiltknifeguyyou made a video?
@@LegionTacticoolCutlery not of that. It was before I did UA-cam
Yeeeeeeah.......
Not surprised.
That's just not a well built knife.
Hope it didn't cost too much.
Again thanks for saving me from the Buck 124. 😱🤣✌️
It’s 225 dollars lol. Crappy steel
@@peterbiltknifeguy Wow.........Just WOW.
I feel like maybe its a bad heat treatment no personal experience with n695 but from what I've read online i feel it shouldn't suck this bad
They say it’s on par with 440c at its best. So can’t expect much from it. It may hold a decent working edge for a while. I’m just testing for that razor sharpness loss
Lol this is worse than both 420hc and that harbor freight Chinese steel, though chemically speaking it’s supposed to have better edge retention than both
The heat treatment must be off on mine
Man you didn't know how to cut paper, the knife is good and if I test it like you it will cut.This Boker isn't junk.
Is that so? This particular one has a poor heat treatment
Cuts a little bit and becomes a heat treat expert. Clearly doesn’t cut have any blade/ edge control/ technique.
Damn, that factory edge SUCKS, especially for good looking knife!
Do you know what it's hardness is?
Time for your magic!!
That was my edge on it. But this steel loses its razor edge fast
@@peterbiltknifeguy
Yea, I tried to find the Rockwell specs but couldn't, so that in itself says alot!
@@Stoney_AKA_James i just looked it up. The knife connection has it listed at 57-58. But who knows if it’s correct
@@peterbiltknifeguy
Thanks, 57-58 is a good Rockwell, but your edge retention test makes me wonder if that is incorrect or something else is going on.