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  • @aresmars2003
    @aresmars2003 6 років тому +5

    By Conway notation, it is acD, a rectified chamfered dodecahedron. The terminology "rectified" is by Norman Johnson, student of Coxeter. Conway uses a for ambo, same as rectified. This application can make it operationally:
    levskaya.github.io/polyhedronisme/?recipe=A10acD
    Conway notation is here:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway_polyhedron_notation
    You can rectified any of the Goldberg polyhedra to make similar appearances.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldberg_polyhedron

    • @lyrimetacurl0
      @lyrimetacurl0 4 роки тому

      Yep, rectified chamfered dodecahedron confirmed

  • @kickinghorse2405
    @kickinghorse2405 Рік тому +1

    Very cool!
    Well done!
    Reminds me of the "bent pyramid" notion of the 5, 6 relationship.

  • @tamvan8167
    @tamvan8167 2 роки тому +1

    Math and geometry is forever .Thank you so much

  • @99slacker999999999
    @99slacker999999999 7 років тому +11

    Congratulations! I'll just call it a Paulrobinsonyhedron.

  • @C-o-r-y
    @C-o-r-y Місяць тому

    DEGREES • FACES • EDGES • VERTICES
    Triangle:
    * Degrees: 180°
    * Each interior angle: 60°
    * Faces: 1 (triangle)
    * Edges: 3
    * Vertices: 3
    Square:
    * Degrees: 360°
    * Each interior angle: 90°
    * Faces: 1 (square)
    * Edges: 4
    * Vertices: 4
    Pentagon:
    * Degrees: 540°
    * Each interior angle: 108°
    * Faces: 1 (pentagon)
    * Edges: 5
    * Vertices: 5
    Hexagon:
    * Degrees: 720
    * Each interior angle: 120°
    * Faces: 1 (hexagon)
    * Edges: 6
    * Vertices: 6
    Tetrahedron:
    * Degrees: 720
    * Each interior angle: 60°
    * Faces: 4 (equilateral triangles)
    * Edges: 6
    * Vertices: 4
    Heptagon:
    * Degrees: 900
    * Each interior angle: 128.57°
    * Faces: 1 (heptagon)
    * Edges: 7
    * Vertices: 7
    Octagon:
    * Degrees: 1080
    * Each interior angle: 135°
    * Faces: 1 (octagon)
    * Edges: 8
    * Vertices: 8
    Nonagon :
    * Degrees: 1260
    * Each interior angle: 140°
    * Faces: 1 (Nonagon)
    * Edges: 9
    * Vertices: 9
    Decagon:
    * Degrees: 1440°
    * Each interior angle: 144°
    * Faces: 1 (Decagon)
    * Edges: 10
    * Vertices: 10
    Pentagonal Pyramid
    * Degrees: 1440
    * Each interior angle: 108°
    * Faces: 6 (5 triangles, 1 pentagon)
    * Edges: 10
    * Vertices: 6
    Octahedron:
    * Degrees: 1440
    * Faces: 8 (equilateral triangles)
    * Edges: 12
    * Vertices: 6
    Stellated octahedron:
    * Degrees: 1440
    * Faces: 8 (equilateral triangles)
    * Edges: 12
    * Vertices: 6
    Pentagonal Bipyramid
    * degrees: 1800
    * Faces: 10 (10 triangles)
    * Edges: 15
    * Vertices: 7
    Hexahedron (Cube):
    * Degrees: 2160
    * Faces: 6 (squares)
    * Edges: 12
    * Vertices: 8
    Triaugmented Triangular Prism:
    * Degrees: 2520
    * Faces: 10 (6 triangles, 4 squares)
    * Edges: 20
    * Vertices: 14
    Octadecagon (18-sided polygon):
    * Degrees: 2880
    * Faces: 1 (octadecagon)
    * Edges: 18
    * Vertices: 18
    Icosagon (20-sided polygon):
    * Degrees: 3240
    * Faces: 1 (icosagon)
    * Edges: 20
    * Vertices: 20
    Truncated Tetrahedron
    * Degrees: 3600
    * Faces: 8 (4 triangles, 4 hexagons)
    * Edges: 18
    * Vertices: 12
    Icosahedron:
    * Degrees: 3600
    * Faces: 20 (equilateral triangles)
    * Edges: 30
    * Vertices: 12
    Cuboctahedron or VECTOR EQUILIBRIUM
    * Degrees: 3600
    * Faces: 14 (8 triangles, 6 squares)
    * Edges: 24
    * Vertices: 12
    3,960 DEGREES
    88 x 45 = 3,960
    44 x 90 = 3,960
    22 x 180 = 3,960
    11 x 360 = 3,960
    Rhombic Dodecahedron
    * Degrees: 4,320
    * Faces: 12 (all rhombuses)
    * Edges: 24
    * Vertices: 14
    * Duel is Cuboctahedron or vector equilibrium
    Tetrakis Hexahedron:
    * Degrees: 4320
    * Faces: 24 (isosceles triangles)
    * Edges: 36
    * Vertices: 14
    Icosikaioctagon (28-sided polygon):
    * Degrees: 4680
    * Faces: 1 (icosikaioctagon)
    * Edges: 28
    * Vertices: 28
    Triacontagon:
    * Degrees: 5040
    * Each interior angle: 168°
    * Faces: 1 (30-sided polygon)
    * Edges: 30
    * Vertices: 30
    Octagonal Prism:
    * Degrees: 5040°
    * Each interior angle: 135°
    * Faces: 10 (2 octagons, 8 rectangles)
    * Edges: 24
    * Vertices: 16
    5400 DEGREES
    5,760 degrees
    6,120 degrees
    Dodecahedron:
    * Degrees: 6480
    * Faces: 12 (pentagons)
    * Edges: 30
    * Vertices: 20
    7560 DEGREES
    6840 DEGREES
    7,200 DEGREES
    7560 DEGREES
    Rhombicuboctahedron:
    * Degrees: 7920
    * Faces: 26 (8 triangles, 18 squares)
    * Edges: 48
    * Vertices: 24
    Snub Cube:
    * Degrees: 7920
    * Faces: 38 (6 squares, 32 triangles)
    * Edges: 60
    * Vertices: 24
    Trakis Icosahedron:
    * Degrees: 7920
    * Faces: 32 (20 triangles, 12 kites)
    * Edges: 90
    * Vertices: 60
    8,280 DEGREES
    8640 DEGREES
    9000 DEGREES
    9,360 degrees
    9,720 degrees
    Icosidodecahedron:
    * Degrees: 10,080°
    * Faces: 30 (12 pentagons, 20 triangles)
    * Edges: 60
    * Vertices: 30
    Truncated Icosidodecahedron:
    * Degrees: 10,080°
    * Faces: 32 (12 regular pentagons, 20 regular triangles)
    * Edges: 60
    * Vertices: 30
    ? 10,440 degrees
    Rhombic Triacontahedron:
    * Degrees: 10,800
    * Faces: 30 (rhombuses)
    * Edges: 60
    * Vertices: 32
    11160 DEGREES
    11,520 DEGREES
    11,880 DEGREES
    12,240 DEGREES
    12,600 DEGREES
    12960 DEGREES
    END OF 360 DEGREE POLAR GRID
    Small Triambic Icosahedron:
    * Degrees: 14400
    * Faces: 20 (intersecting non-regular hexagons)
    * Edges: 60
    * Vertices: 32
    Small Ditrigonal Icosidodecahedron:
    * Degrees: 16,560
    * Faces: 50 (12 pentagons, 20 triangles, 18 squares)
    * Edges: 120
    * Vertices: 60
    Truncated Cuboctahedron or Great Rhombicuboctahedron
    * Degrees: 16,560
    * Faces: 26 (12 Squares, 8 Hexagons, 6 Octagons)
    * Edges: 72
    * Vertices: 48
    Small Rhombicosidodecahedron
    * Degrees: 20,880
    * Faces: 62 (20 triangles, 30 squares, 12 pentagons)
    * Edges: 120
    * Vertices: 60
    Rhombicosidodecahedron
    * Degrees: 20,880
    * Faces: 62 (30 squares, 20 triangles, 12 pentagons)
    * Edges: 120
    * Vertices: 60
    Truncated Icosahedron:
    * Degrees: 20,880
    * Faces: 32 (12 pentagons, 20 hexagons)
    * Edges: 90
    * Vertices: 60
    Disdyakis Triacontahedron:
    * Degrees: 21600
    * Faces: 120 (scalene triangles)
    * Edges: 180
    * Vertices: 62
    Deltoidal Hexecontahedron
    * Degrees: 21,600
    * Faces: 60 (kites)
    * Edges: 120
    * Vertices: 62
    Ditrigonal Dodecadodecahedron:
    * Degrees: 24480
    * Faces: 52 (12 pentagons, 20 hexagons, 20 triangles)
    * Edges: 150
    * Vertices: 60
    Great Rhombicosidodecahedron
    * Degrees: 31,680
    * Faces: 62 (12 pentagons, 20 hexagons, 30 squares)
    * Edges: 120
    * Vertices: 60
    Small Rhombihexacontahedron:
    * Degrees: 31,680
    * Faces: 60 (12 pentagons, 30 squares, 20 hexagons)
    * Edges: 120
    * Vertices: 60
    Pentagonal Hexecontahedron:
    * Degrees: 32,400
    * Faces: 60 (pentagons)
    * Edges: 120
    * Vertices: 62

  • @xlthecoolguy-lz7uh
    @xlthecoolguy-lz7uh 11 днів тому

    That's a near-miss johnson solid. I call it "The Super-Football"

  • @__________________________hi52
    @__________________________hi52 5 днів тому

    These have all regular polygons, its a near miss johnson solid as it has a 2 fold triangle (icosilies) the fold needs to be the same as the side count, your right about "near miss johnson solid"

  • @C-o-r-y
    @C-o-r-y Місяць тому

    combination 1
    4 triangles: 4 x 180 = 720
    3 Squares: 3 x 360 = 1080
    4 pentagons: 4 x 540 = 2160
    2 hexagons: 2 x 720 = 1440
    Total = 5400
    Combination 2
    6 triangles: 6 x 180 = 1080
    2 Squares: 2 x 360 = 720
    4 pentagons: 4 x 540 = 2160
    2 hexagons: 2 x 720 = 1440
    Total = 5400
    Combination 3
    12 triangles: 12 x 180 = 2160
    2 Squares: 2 x 360 = 720
    2 pentagons: 2 x 540 = 1080
    hexagons: 2 x 720 = 1440
    Total = 5400
    Combination 4
    10 triangles: 10 x 180 = 1800
    3 Squares: 3 x 360 = 1080
    2 pentagons: 2 x 540 = 1080
    2 hexagons: 2 x 720 = 1440
    Total = 5400
    Combination 5
    8 triangles: 8 x 180 = 1440
    4 Squares: 4 x 360 = 1440
    4 pentagons: 4 x 540 = 2160
    2 hexagons: 2 x 720 = 1440
    Total = 5400
    Combination 6
    6 Triangles: 6 x 180 = 1080
    5 Squares: 5 x 360 = 1800
    2 pentagons: 2 x 540 = 1080
    2 Hexagons: 2 x 720 = 1440
    Total = 5400
    Combination 7
    4 Triangles: 4 x 180 = 720
    6 Squares: 6 x 360 = 2160
    2 pentagons: 2 x 540 = 1080
    2 Hexagons: 2 x 720 = 1440
    Total = 5400
    Combination 8
    8 triangles = 1440
    2 squares = 720
    2 pentagons = 1080
    3 hexagons = 2160
    Total = 5400

  • @edwardgorczyca8691
    @edwardgorczyca8691 6 років тому

    Dear Paul,
    I only having some of the background required to follow your work. With that limitation and from my perspective it looks like a profound discovery. Most of my work has been in the construction of free standing tension structures. My pieces that are somewhat associated with your work and also associated with Buckminsterfuller's and Kenneth Snelson"s are tension structures like theirs that follow the outlines of an icosadodecahedron. If you extend the 30 rod elements of their tension structures and join their ends and you suspend them from each other the result is 6 woven hoop pentagons and a free standing tension structure. You can change the pentagons into star shapes. The last star shape one I tried to make had star points of 18 degrees and valleys of 90 degrees. I don't know where I got off course. That design is hard to assemble. The orientation is easier when the star shape is closer to a pentagon. In the assembly the rule I was using is most obvious when the first 2 stars are joined. That rule is "star points above valleys and at 180 degrees to that valleys below star points". As stars are added that rule is in play for every valley and point that come into proximity. When you'r about to add the last star you can see it's path on the already assembled stars. My assembly also satisfied the rule of completion in that when the last piece is added all the valleys have points above them. There must be another rule of assembly that I don't know for what the result is may interest you. For viewing what polyhedron this extreme shape follows you should be guided by the points of the stars. This completed piece has 2 let's say polar hexagons (not pentagons) and a wide equator of squares and triangles. I haven't counted them yet.
    Ed Gorczyca
    gorczycaed@yahoo.com
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  • @pianojay5146
    @pianojay5146 4 роки тому +1

    Ok I thought this was a new Johnson solid and surprised. Still, this was very cool.

  • @pichikian
    @pichikian 3 роки тому +1

    I did same thing with Rhombic Dodecahedron, don't think it has been done before?

  • @GennadyWisdrik
    @GennadyWisdrik 5 років тому

    It is similar to Electra model designed by David Mitchell. There are different possibilities of adding hexagonal faces as described by Tom Hall.

  • @guymiklos9245
    @guymiklos9245 6 років тому

    If you were to divide the hexagons into six triangles and the the pentagons into five triangles, you would have the topology of a 4 frequency dome, just with flattened hexagonal and pentagonal faces. Leaving these triangles out is pleasing to the eye, but less strong, since the 2 equatorial geodesics that would otherwise run straight through the centre of each hexagon are all absent.

  • @pinballpsycho
    @pinballpsycho 7 років тому +1

    Nicely done!

  • @n8trh
    @n8trh 3 роки тому

    For what it's worth, the first shape is what you get when you combine the soccer ball with it's dual.

  • @petermcarthur7450
    @petermcarthur7450 6 років тому +1

    I'm sorry to spoil your discovery for you, but I have seen this before, and it dates back at least as far as the 70s. It's no surprise you couldn't find it, though, because the people who are interested in geodesic dinners don't seem to be interested in the building techniques that this structure lends itself to.
    I saw this design in some instructions for how to build a geodesic dome simply by lashing together bamboo poles. This shape is perfectly suited for that purpose because, by adjusting the parameters, you can make the vertices line up into 12 (I think) perfectly circular rings. You can imagine how this would be ideal for a tent made with fibreglass poles, with the lashing points sewn into the sheet that you drape over it.
    I built a model using coffee stirrers and elastic bands, and it works well. Then I noticed that the "waist" of hexagons has a cross-cross pattern which, with some extra struts, could be turned into a lattice like the wall of a yurt / ger, which suggests very interesting possibilities.

    • @Geo-Dome
      @Geo-Dome  6 років тому

      Ah you said "perfectly circular rings" I am aware of this design, it has great circles producing pentagons hexagons and triangles frames just as mine but there is a difference. Mine has regular hexagons. Polyhedrons are mathematically constructed solids so even though the shape you refer to probably looks almost identical it is in fact very different mathematically.

    • @petermcarthur7450
      @petermcarthur7450 6 років тому +1

      Paul Robinson I see. To me, that's a distinction without a difference, but of course that depends on your mathematical framework.
      If you need the hexagons to be regular, I believe I've seen that on Wikipedia where it's listed as the ambo derivative of the chamfered dodecahedron. I haven't studied Conway polyhedrons in any depth, so I could be wrong about that. Either way, I've never seen it used in a geodesic dome.

    • @Geo-Dome
      @Geo-Dome  6 років тому

      I don't think it is possible to tell from just looking at an image if the hexagon is regular.
      Here's the link to the wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamfered_dodecahedron
      I am aware of the rectified truncated triacontahedron, which again looks the same but this has hexagons with equal edge length but slightly compressed between two vertices.
      Here's another example, the hexagons are obviously not regular but it looks like the triangles are all the same: levskaya.github.io/polyhedronisme/?recipe=A10acD
      Oh I also noticed that the hexagons are not planar.
      From a geodesic perspective if the hexagon is regular then you can triangulate with 6 identical triangles, if it is not regular/planar you need at least 3 different triangles.
      I did the video to demonstrate a possible new polyhedron and to show how I made it. Many of the polyhedra on wikipedia don't show face angles, chord factors etc so it's impossible to compare. I think we can agree that there are hundreds of possible solutions to produce a polyhedron with same look but I believe there is only one solution that has regular hexagons.

    • @petermcarthur7450
      @petermcarthur7450 6 років тому

      Paul Robinson I mostly agree with you, but I believe the requirement that the hexagons be regular does not fully constrain the chord factors. You need one more constraint, which in your case is the implicit constraint that the vertices intersect with a sphere.

    • @phoenus
      @phoenus 6 років тому

      Peter McArthur .

  • @aikonlatigid
    @aikonlatigid 3 роки тому

    Try triacontahedron, you cut the edge you got 12 pentagon, you cut the edge again you got the polyhedron you wish

  • @flowinsounds
    @flowinsounds 7 років тому +2

    can you cut that to give a flat base for a dome? might like to try buiding one

  • @MichaelHonsinger
    @MichaelHonsinger 6 років тому

    Looks like Fuller's Bamboo Dome in Dome Book 2...but don't know if it is exactly the same...

  • @SineEyed
    @SineEyed 5 років тому

    At about 5:50 you talk about going to 50% truncation, which then becomes rectification of the polygon, but you say you're not sure why. I suppose you could be referring to two things there - you're unsure of why the actual word "rectify" was chosen to represent that particular function, or you're unsure about the reason the function gets a different name when it reaches that specific 50% mark.
    Now, I'm fairly certain you know more about the subject of polyhedra than I do, so I wouldn't presume to be the one giving _you_ an answer to anything, really. But if it is the case that what you're unsure about is something like the second option I spoke about, and if it's something you're interested in knowing the answer, I believe I could explain it adequately enough. That just may spare you the burden of looking it up yourself, at least. And I'd be happy to do so - I think I'll wait for you to affirm such a request before I type it all out though. That's the prudent course of action, I think..

  • @gvajrapani8517
    @gvajrapani8517 7 років тому

    Hello Paul, and thank you so much for the informative videos. A must watch for all dome builders, methinks. Have you considered building a dome using a catenary shape? I was doing some research, and while it adds height and structural integrity, it also seems to make the build more complicated due to the shapes changing towards the top of the dome. What do you think?

    • @Geo-Dome
      @Geo-Dome  7 років тому +1

      Yes it does mean a more complex build, I have a design that could do catenary shape but in a tunnel: ua-cam.com/video/nv8xIO8ulmU/v-deo.html You can build anything on a rectangular footprint with this method but I feel a round dome is pretty difficult. Or you could do a hexagon footprint with this method: ua-cam.com/video/aFfYkWCaCws/v-deo.html I'll try and upload something catenary soon.

  • @AlvinBalvin321
    @AlvinBalvin321 4 роки тому +2

    its a truncated truncated icosohedron

    • @lyrimetacurl0
      @lyrimetacurl0 4 роки тому

      No that's got decagons. This looks more like a chamfered dodecahedron with triangles in between (rectified?)

  • @kikomerez1601
    @kikomerez1601 3 роки тому

    It is much like a 4v geodesic full dome.

    • @Geo-Dome
      @Geo-Dome  3 роки тому +1

      Yes but if you make a triangulated 4v from this you only have 4 different frames (3 Isosceles one equilateral) other 4v domes have 6 different frames and some are scalene triangles.

    • @kikomerez1601
      @kikomerez1601 3 роки тому

      That's what i was wondering, why geodome makers complicate things with so many strut sizes.

    • @kikomerez1601
      @kikomerez1601 3 роки тому

      I made such mini geodome from carton.. cant attach d pic though

  • @chiefton52
    @chiefton52 6 років тому

    How many points does it have in total? This could be a Carbon Molecule. Ever heard about Nano-tubes? How about Carbon C-76 looking exactly like DNA because it comes Left and Right Handed? It reminds me of a Carbon C-60 Molecule.

  • @satsudha53
    @satsudha53 7 років тому

    It is nothing but truncated icosahedrons if you join centers of triangles.

    • @flowinsounds
      @flowinsounds 7 років тому

      didn't he cover that in the video?

  • @greenpeppermint7518
    @greenpeppermint7518 4 роки тому

    I will call it the hecatoicosduoherdron

  • @vahepitchikian3505
    @vahepitchikian3505 7 років тому

    Can you try Hexakis Octahedron

  • @williambusuttil4702
    @williambusuttil4702 6 років тому

    l beleave l saw this in the whole world catalog some place?

  • @skodwardeSWF
    @skodwardeSWF 6 років тому

    Maybe it's a octadecahedron

  • @JPintheNC
    @JPintheNC 7 років тому +1

    Hi Paul. I'm really enjoying your channel so far, and just subscribed. On the topic of new dome designs, I came across this one the other day.
    m.ua-cam.com/video/js3Bp_3glvY/v-deo.html
    It was particularly interesting to me for the prospective ease of manufacturing. He states that every part is cut to the same length, and at the same angles (which means a single jig can be used, and would make both the parts fabrication and their assembly a nearly foolproof endeavor) In the comments of the linked video he gives some of the angles and dimensions by which each of the parts should be cut, but it's pretty obscure and incomplete... I love how precise you are, and your in depth explanation of the design details, including why things are the way they are. If this design interests you as well, I would love for you to plug the figures into one of your programs and clear up the obscurities not revealed in that guy's video.