Thanks for using actual footage from the raid! As a teacher, I love giving my students directions for your channel and others using real footage for them to write their assignments off from!
The De Havilland Mosquito was one of the greatest aircraft of its time. It even impressed Hermann Goering, who lectured his aircraft manufacturers about its superiority to what the German aircraft industry was producing: "It makes me furious when I see the Mosquito. I turn green and yellow with envy."
My department chief was a navigator in the Mosquito during WWII. It was a great plane..fast, well armed and capable of carrying a fairly heavy bomb load. The only problem was the two man drew found the plane quite cramped.
The title should be corrected. I believe it should read "The daring WW2 Bombing Raid on the Philips Electronics Plant in Eindhoven". The bombs used on the raid were standard ordinance for the day. The Plant was not secret in any sense; the plant predated the invasion of the Netherlands.
Operation Oyster was a high-risk mission that demonstrated the bravery and skill of RAF crews willing to sacrifice everything to strike at the heart of Nazi supply lines. The bold daylight raid came at a cost, but it delivered a crucial blow to enemy resources and proved the determination of the Allied forces.
@tsechejak7598 No. At least not then. The plane had to be modified with buldged bomb bay doors to carry the cookie. I think only around 150 were modified later in the war. Standard plane carried 4 500lb bombs internally but had to have the tail fins cut down to fit.
@@BillBuckley-b8j First cookies dropped from modified Mosquitos 23rd February 1943. The Mark XVI, purpose designed for the weapon, first dropped one on 5th March 1943. So not used in this raid. In this raid they carried the more standard (for the time) 4 x 500lb bombs. During the war, the Mosquito also carried the 4000lb MC bomb. As the video explains the particular weapons carried depended on the target. The 4000lb HC (high capacity) was a blast weapon, which was good for destroying walls and roofs and particularly nasty at oil refineries. After this the incendiaries were used, these being the most destructive of all bombs, but they required entry into the buildings thus the 4000lb HC. The 500lb bombs would not have been as effective but were good enough for this lightly built target. Bishop, the designer of the aircraft pushed for using it to carry the 4000lb weapons, he had significantly overdesigned the wing, it could take any load that could be comfortably fitted to the aircraft. The wing used in the fighter was different to handle the high gee turns b ut the one in the bomber was not changed from the initial design. After a crash of an Australian made Mosquito (footage of the crash exists), the wing was statically tested in the lab to destruction. If memory serves, a fully loaded wing failed at an equivalent of 9gee. As to this raid, its effectiveness has been debated, there is considerable information on the passive resistance of Philips management and staff and the really poor way the Germans managed their supply chains. Nevertheless, the allies were not to know this and without 20-20 hindsight, it remains a valid target. I am not sure what the "secret target" was. Not too bad a video, some mistakes, some click bait, and a fair bit missing that should have been in it, including a Mosquito only raid later on to hamper recovery. 135 civilians were killed in the raid. The aircrew losses were also very high, much of it attributed to the low level flying. Perhaps this is why the follow up raid was just 10 Mosquitos, low-level interdiction raids being one of the aircraft and their crew's specialties.
With the Netherlands being just across the Channel from Britain I don’t know why they couldn’t have Fighter support? By 1942 didn’t they already have drop tanks to extend fighters range?
It depends on which and where the fighters would have to go. Since the Spitfire was a interceptor it had short range of around 800km or only 1500km on reduced speed but with drop tank (being the Mk IX) to extend the range and in ideal conditions i.e flying at altitude and not engaging enemy fighters. You always have to remember its not just they way to the target but also back. In case of the fighter escort they´d also have to fight enemy fighters so basically they wouldnt have enough fuel left to come back. Taking the international airports of Norwich and Eindhoven as a reference thats 310km one way or 620km for the whole trip. Since according to the mission planing, going in fast and under the radar makes it a one way trip for the fighters.
Did he really say the commander's aircraft was "flying at 90 degrees to the ground" following aircraft damage after the raid? Either the wings were vertical, or the fuselage was??
A wooden aircraft was scoffed at by both sides. Also being made of wood, they had a low radar cross section. Supposedly Hitler had major disbelief that a wooden plane could do the damage that it actually did.
I appreciate you kept the narrator voice, thank you. I think the ad for invideo AI is a fair trade off. I will be looking into the software as well as a thank you to you.
I believe during the war Philips fed back via the US that they were dragging their feet to minimise production / quality etc. BUT British intelligence got their information from presentations to the Germans where understandably Philips emphasized their maximum possible productivity..... I also understand that 2 Group didn't rate the Venturis very highly (basically being modified civilian aircraft) although they weren't the worst aircraft 2 Group had to use during the war....
RAF squadrons did not use "st", "nd" or "th" in their squadron title, just the number followed by the word squadron, for example "617 Squadron" not "617th Squadron". That was an Americanism
Always nice to watch these short informative videos 👍😀. Maybe it would be nice if instead of ai chosen clips of ww2 raids to incorporate footage from the actual raid or aftermath when possible offcoarse. Thanks again for these great videos and content 👍😀
They flew across the North sea, not the English Channel. The Mustang had the range for the mission, even in Mk1 form, so why wasn't it used? And why is there footage of USAAF crews being briefed?
Yeah - this is so stupid. If the Allies had Mustangs in 1942 the war would have been won by 1943. I'm unsubscribing from his BS, so you have done me a favour!
Is it possible that footage of a USAAF briefing was used because as was stated, the USAAF carried out a diversionary raid at the same time over Alkmaar?
@@NoOnionsUK Allison powered Mustangs were available in 1942 in small numbers. It was OK at low altitudes, but useless higher up. The Mustang only became useful in late 1943 when it was re-equipped with Rolls Royce Merlin engines. The Mustang's impact on the European war was highly overrated. It only had a modest impact for the last year or so of the war. By 1944 the Soviets had the Wehrmacht on the run and the defeat of Germany was in sight. Strategic bombing contributed to the wars end, even so, the bulk of the bombs were dropped by the RAF, not the USAAF. Add to that, a significant number of USAAF bomber raids were not escorted by Mustangs. The early raids were unescorted. P-47s and P-38s began flying escort missions before the Mustang. Shorter ranged raids by USAAF B26 Marauders were often escorted by British Spitfires. The Mustang is the Hollywood darling that showed up late and grabbed the glory.
I had heard of this operation before and couldnt work out why the B25's were removed from assisting . Seems like lack of experience or the Nordon bomb sight ?
“ beyond fighter escort range?”!A Fighters are useless if you fly low level to evade radar. B you then mention a P51 diversionary raid in France at the same fistance.
That's what I was thinking. These would have been the earlier P51s with the Allison engine - which was very good at low altitude - so it seems strange that the RAF planners didn't think to use them to escort the bombers.
Eindhoven is twice or three times the distance to Nord Western France from the English coast. He talks about a diversional atfack on Alkmaar by P51 Mustangs. Alkmaar is a coastal city in the west north west of the Netherlands.
The Ventura does not look to be the right aircraft for this mission. Fourteen losses confirmed it was a sitting duck for evasion from target. Those aircrew must have known that going in.
I wonder who were the employees of the Phillips plant and were did they come from. Since Holland was occupied, I think it would be unlikely that they were Dutch.
They were (mostly) Dutch. Most of them were living in the city of Eindhoven. Philips was (and is) a big company producing and selling all sorts of electric and electronic products, during WW2 not just specialised war materials for the Germans. However.... I do not know the amount of foreign workers in this particular plant. The employees tried to produce the minimum they could get away witch without the Germans calling them saboteurs and taking reprisals.
Total clickbait with that title card! There's always something underhanded and/or wrong in these videos. Have you learned that mk. is pronounced "Mark" yet? The amount of "emm kay" weaponry used to be staggering in "Dark" vids 😆
I didn’t realise that the Americans were also involved (5:06) in the attack? Also in commonwealth air forces squadron numbers are described (12:05) as One-Zero-Five squadron, not one hundred, five squadron etc.
I love the dark series. Been a fan for nearly ten years, but do you have to narrate with such hyperbole?! It's disappointing, close a channel and take a break. "Pin point" accuracy, in 1942? Stop! Just stop! SMH....
Your videos are excellent. However, please stop using ordinals on Commonwealth Squadron numbering. We DO NOT USE ORDINALS. 418 Sqn (for instance) is spoken "Four One Eight" NOT 418th. This applies to all Commonwealth countries. Thank you. And while we're at it, we do not precede ships' names with "The". Again, this applies to all Commonwealth forces. Do not precede HMCS, HMS, HMAS, HMNZS with "the". It is quite acceptable to drop the HM.. and just say or write "The (name of ship), e.g. "The Haida" or "The Hood" Thanks
Disappointing clickbait title and even more disappointing is the fact that i pay youtube a subscribtion to be "ad free" only for the ad to be in the video Some good content on this title however, on principal im unsubscribing. Pity
Guess you won't be watching a lot of content then. Most creator's do it, they get a bigger cut from doing ads directly then doing it trough UA-cam. Just the best way creator's can support themselves, but man I understand hitting that skip ahead button sure is hard.
@ I suppose you might be correct. Not my concern. If enough of us protest, perhaps the creators will change their ways. If not, there is a lot more than crooked, dishonest, Facebook on the Internet.
Not impressed with the manufactured tension of these commentaries, bereft of background, explanation, planning details, and full of standardized details. Also no way to tell if videos are real or not. The only thing detailed and checkable is the name of the operation.
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The title "hook" is misleading... No mention whatsoever of special weapon. Why do that?
Neither the BOMB nor the TARGET were described as INSANE in the title !!! Adults are running the channel now.
@@williamrandalledmonds7121 OK .. but they also did NOT say INSANE.
Thanks for using actual footage from the raid! As a teacher, I love giving my students directions for your channel and others using real footage for them to write their assignments off from!
The De Havilland Mosquito was one of the greatest aircraft of its time. It even impressed Hermann Goering, who lectured his aircraft manufacturers about its superiority to what the German aircraft industry was producing: "It makes me furious when I see the Mosquito. I turn green and yellow with envy."
Plywood and fabric in the age of aluminum made them stealthy to the primitive radar, and pretty nimble for a bomber, I read. Impressive
An extremely efficient and versatile aircraft used in so many different ways.
I strongly agree.
Also agree
My department chief was a navigator in the Mosquito during WWII. It was a great plane..fast, well armed and capable of carrying a fairly heavy bomb load. The only problem was the two man drew found the plane quite cramped.
The title should be corrected. I believe it should read "The daring WW2 Bombing Raid on the Philips Electronics Plant in Eindhoven". The bombs used on the raid were standard ordinance for the day. The Plant was not secret in any sense; the plant predated the invasion of the Netherlands.
And is still operating today.
Operation Oyster was a high-risk mission that demonstrated the bravery and skill of RAF crews willing to sacrifice everything to strike at the heart of Nazi supply lines. The bold daylight raid came at a cost, but it delivered a crucial blow to enemy resources and proved the determination of the Allied forces.
"The WW2 Bomb that Rocked a Secret Target Never Expecting It" And that bomb is??? Just title these realistically with no clickbait. I'll watch them.
Think it was a misspelled title. Should be ‘Bombing’
James Pelly Fry.His biography,Heavenly Days is a must read.He was a VERY brave man.
Thanks for the recommendation; I just ordered his book!
It’s amazing that after the war we still use Phillips , tubes , bulbs, new style but they obviously rebuilt to serve the public after.
What an exciting story only surpassed by your superb storytelling! Thanks 😊 for another wonderful but little known story from WWII!
So, what exactly is The Flying Demolition Weapon Hitler Never Expected? I heard no mention of anything like that.
@paulshouse524 I think it might be a 4000lb cookie bomb, but it's never mentioned, and I'm not sure a Boston could carry one.
Mosquito likely only one could carry it.
@tsechejak7598 No. At least not then. The plane had to be modified with buldged bomb bay doors to carry the cookie. I think only around 150 were modified later in the war. Standard plane carried 4 500lb bombs internally but had to have the tail fins cut down to fit.
@ I knew it had to be the bulged bomb doors variant but I didn’t realize the time frame was off for that thx.
@@BillBuckley-b8j First cookies dropped from modified Mosquitos 23rd February 1943. The Mark XVI, purpose designed for the weapon, first dropped one on 5th March 1943. So not used in this raid. In this raid they carried the more standard (for the time) 4 x 500lb bombs.
During the war, the Mosquito also carried the 4000lb MC bomb. As the video explains the particular weapons carried depended on the target. The 4000lb HC (high capacity) was a blast weapon, which was good for destroying walls and roofs and particularly nasty at oil refineries. After this the incendiaries were used, these being the most destructive of all bombs, but they required entry into the buildings thus the 4000lb HC. The 500lb bombs would not have been as effective but were good enough for this lightly built target.
Bishop, the designer of the aircraft pushed for using it to carry the 4000lb weapons, he had significantly overdesigned the wing, it could take any load that could be comfortably fitted to the aircraft. The wing used in the fighter was different to handle the high gee turns b ut the one in the bomber was not changed from the initial design. After a crash of an Australian made Mosquito (footage of the crash exists), the wing was statically tested in the lab to destruction. If memory serves, a fully loaded wing failed at an equivalent of 9gee.
As to this raid, its effectiveness has been debated, there is considerable information on the passive resistance of Philips management and staff and the really poor way the Germans managed their supply chains. Nevertheless, the allies were not to know this and without 20-20 hindsight, it remains a valid target. I am not sure what the "secret target" was. Not too bad a video, some mistakes, some click bait, and a fair bit missing that should have been in it, including a Mosquito only raid later on to hamper recovery. 135 civilians were killed in the raid. The aircrew losses were also very high, much of it attributed to the low level flying. Perhaps this is why the follow up raid was just 10 Mosquitos, low-level interdiction raids being one of the aircraft and their crew's specialties.
150 Dutch civilians losing their life is as sad as the RAF losses.
What a terrible conflict 😢
Neither the BOMB nor the TARGET were described as INSANE in the title !!! Adults are running the channel now.
Again, a much better presentation by you. On narration video, no irrelevant visual. Well done.
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And to think the RAF was worried about collaterals in 1942!
I'm impressed.
Only because it was dutch citizens, not german.
The RAF did'nt worry too much about collaterals in the bombing of Le Havre, Sept. 1944. Maybe times had changed?
No mention of the Bomb that rocked
With the Netherlands being just across the Channel from Britain I don’t know why they couldn’t have Fighter support? By 1942 didn’t they already have drop tanks to extend fighters range?
It depends on which and where the fighters would have to go. Since the Spitfire was a interceptor it had short range of around 800km or only 1500km on reduced speed but with drop tank (being the Mk IX) to extend the range and in ideal conditions i.e flying at altitude and not engaging enemy fighters. You always have to remember its not just they way to the target but also back. In case of the fighter escort they´d also have to fight enemy fighters so basically they wouldnt have enough fuel left to come back.
Taking the international airports of Norwich and Eindhoven as a reference thats 310km one way or 620km for the whole trip. Since according to the mission planing, going in fast and under the radar makes it a one way trip for the fighters.
Another most important mission of WW2. Every video has the most important misson of WW2
Great video, coverage and commentary. I could imagine I was there and scared, very scared.... but continuing the mission w these heroes !
Did he really say the commander's aircraft was "flying at 90 degrees to the ground" following aircraft damage after the raid? Either the wings were vertical, or the fuselage was??
Yeah, OK. But what does any of this have to do with the title?
A wooden aircraft was scoffed at by both sides. Also being made of wood, they had a low radar cross section. Supposedly Hitler had major disbelief that a wooden plane could do the damage that it actually did.
Another good one Dark , keep it up
Please please please learn how to say RAF Squadron numbers it's three, five, two. Squadron NOT the three fifty second squadron
I appreciate you kept the narrator voice, thank you. I think the ad for invideo AI is a fair trade off. I will be looking into the software as well as a thank you to you.
I believe during the war Philips fed back via the US that they were dragging their feet to minimise production / quality etc. BUT British intelligence got their information from presentations to the Germans where understandably Philips emphasized their maximum possible productivity.....
I also understand that 2 Group didn't rate the Venturis very highly (basically being modified civilian aircraft) although they weren't the worst aircraft 2 Group had to use during the war....
Good on ya Lads!!!
Solid!
Top KEK!
Peace be with you.
RAF squadrons did not use "st", "nd" or "th" in their squadron title, just the number followed by the word squadron, for example "617 Squadron" not "617th Squadron". That was an Americanism
This channel teaches wrong information. I'm unsubscribing now
When you do a surprise day light attack on a factory you have to expect civilian casualties and factor it in to your earliest decision making.
If I was flying on this mission, I’d definitely want to be flying in a Mozzi..
A ROyal Air Force squadron does not have a "th" after the number, for example it is not "88th sqn", but "number 88 sqn".
Always nice to watch these short informative videos 👍😀.
Maybe it would be nice if instead of ai chosen clips of ww2 raids to incorporate footage from the actual raid or aftermath when possible offcoarse.
Thanks again for these great videos and content 👍😀
There was footage, and photographs of the actual Oyster mission, although it was mixed in with more generic stuff.
And why mention a bomb in the title? What WW2 bomb?
OF the 14 aircraft lost, how many of the crews were able to bail out and become POWs?
None as they were flying low.
They flew across the North sea, not the English Channel. The Mustang had the range for the mission, even in Mk1 form, so why wasn't it used? And why is there footage of USAAF crews being briefed?
Yeah - this is so stupid. If the Allies had Mustangs in 1942 the war would have been won by 1943. I'm unsubscribing from his BS, so you have done me a favour!
Is it possible that footage of a USAAF briefing was used because as was stated, the USAAF carried out a diversionary raid at the same time over Alkmaar?
@@NoOnionsUK Allison powered Mustangs were available in 1942 in small numbers. It was OK at low altitudes, but useless higher up. The Mustang only became useful in late 1943 when it was re-equipped with Rolls Royce Merlin engines.
The Mustang's impact on the European war was highly overrated. It only had a modest impact for the last year or so of the war. By 1944 the Soviets had the Wehrmacht on the run and the defeat of Germany was in sight. Strategic bombing contributed to the wars end, even so, the bulk of the bombs were dropped by the RAF, not the USAAF. Add to that, a significant number of USAAF bomber raids were not escorted by Mustangs. The early raids were unescorted. P-47s and P-38s began flying escort missions before the Mustang. Shorter ranged raids by USAAF B26 Marauders were often escorted by British Spitfires.
The Mustang is the Hollywood darling that showed up late and grabbed the glory.
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The title is totally incorrect.
What a BS thumbnail
"Let this be a lesson to you Fred, Never trust a giant Oyster"
I had heard of this operation before and couldnt work out why the B25's were removed from assisting . Seems like lack of experience or the Nordon bomb sight ?
What was the strength of a Ventura, apart from obsolete and getting shot down.
It was available. Ideally the entire mission should've been flown by Mosquitos, but you fight with what you have available at the time.
Seems like the footage of bombs failing in these rows of trees was popular. Many documentary even movies like Memphis Belle appear this.
“ beyond fighter escort range?”!A Fighters are useless if you fly low level to evade radar.
B you then mention a P51 diversionary raid in France at the same fistance.
That's what I was thinking. These would have been the earlier P51s with the Allison engine - which was very good at low altitude - so it seems strange that the RAF planners didn't think to use them to escort the bombers.
Eindhoven is twice or three times the distance to Nord Western France from the English coast. He talks about a diversional atfack on Alkmaar by P51 Mustangs. Alkmaar is a coastal city in the west north west of the Netherlands.
The Ventura does not look to be the right aircraft for this mission. Fourteen losses confirmed it was a sitting duck for evasion from target. Those aircrew must have known that going in.
I wonder who were the employees of the Phillips plant and were did they come from. Since Holland was occupied, I think it would be unlikely that they were Dutch.
They were (mostly) Dutch. Most of them were living in the city of Eindhoven. Philips was (and is) a big company producing and selling all sorts of electric and electronic products, during WW2 not just specialised war materials for the Germans. However.... I do not know the amount of foreign workers in this particular plant.
The employees tried to produce the minimum they could get away witch without the Germans calling them saboteurs and taking reprisals.
wow great video
Total clickbait with that title card!
There's always something underhanded and/or wrong in these videos.
Have you learned that mk. is pronounced "Mark" yet?
The amount of "emm kay" weaponry used to be staggering in "Dark" vids 😆
6:08 anyone else get ptsd from GTAO sounds?...
Well, interesting story, but when does the video which actually tells about that bomb comes out?
Thanks!
I didn’t realise that the Americans were also involved (5:06) in the attack? Also in commonwealth air forces squadron numbers are described (12:05) as One-Zero-Five squadron, not one hundred, five squadron etc.
I like your stuff but Mark Felton’s
account of this raid is a lot better.
The B-25s could have been used to bomb the coastal air defense
Maybe. But this channel frequency uses inaccurate stock footage to pad things out.
I love the dark series. Been a fan for nearly ten years, but do you have to narrate with such hyperbole?!
It's disappointing, close a channel and take a break. "Pin point" accuracy, in 1942? Stop! Just stop! SMH....
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Thank you for sharing this
Wonder why they didn't have allied fighters waiting to escort them back over the channel ??? Boneheads in charge couldn't think that far ahead ???
Click bait title...
AI. Goodbye.
Start off with talk of Mosquitoes and show video of Bostons/A-20s.
Someone actually saying Norfolk correctly? That gets a like. 😂
Your videos are excellent. However, please stop using ordinals on Commonwealth Squadron numbering. We DO NOT USE ORDINALS. 418 Sqn (for instance) is spoken "Four One Eight" NOT 418th. This applies to all Commonwealth countries. Thank you.
And while we're at it, we do not precede ships' names with "The". Again, this applies to all Commonwealth forces. Do not precede HMCS, HMS, HMAS, HMNZS with "the". It is quite acceptable to drop the HM.. and just say or write "The (name of ship), e.g. "The Haida" or "The Hood"
Thanks
What the hell is that thumbnail supposed to be. why would you ask an LLM search engine to make a picture?
I guess the reason they didn’t expect it is because they, like us never what it was. Why do you guys do this so often?
the long comercial ruins this historical footage
Too long comercials
Sorry you had to lower yourself to advertising video games…isn’t it bad enough to have to watch ads before AND after the videos? Goodbye.
I’m sorry you decided to use yet another clickbait title. Be better!
Disappointing clickbait title and even more disappointing is the fact that i pay youtube a subscribtion to be "ad free" only for the ad to be in the video
Some good content on this title however, on principal im unsubscribing.
Pity
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I will NOT watch videos that fold ads right into content like this one just did.
Guess you won't be watching a lot of content then. Most creator's do it, they get a bigger cut from doing ads directly then doing it trough UA-cam.
Just the best way creator's can support themselves, but man I understand hitting that skip ahead button sure is hard.
@ I suppose you might be correct. Not my concern. If enough of us protest, perhaps the creators will change their ways. If not, there is a lot more than crooked, dishonest, Facebook on the Internet.
Not impressed with the manufactured tension of these commentaries, bereft of background, explanation, planning details, and full of standardized details. Also no way to tell if videos are real or not. The only thing detailed and checkable is the name of the operation.
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Is this video all AI generated?
Please keep to your in video short. I’m not interested and just unsubscribed.
Bostons are the sexiest bomber of WWII
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