So like an abusive relationship. You are threatened that you will go to hell if you try to leave the belief in jesus. Thank you Rabbi Tovia. Your teachings are so helpful and clear to understand. "Delicious"
Very well explained Rabbi Singer. The Commandments are the road map that God lovingly gave us to help us live a life of commitment to the right path. And only we can repent and be contrite for our trespasses with a sincere heart and get back on the way God showed us. God is divine and the most high. As far as threats by Christianity to encourage believing in Jesus in order to have salvation when we die shows no faith that humans can repent and be accountable in this life by repentance without an intermediary. The commandments are the most sound gift the creator gave us. All Christian theology’s promises of salvation can not be verifiable.
A Muslim could say the same thing. Qur'an as the road map, following a set of rules.... etc. Any religious movement can and does add works toward forgiveness as a part of it's beliefs. Pray enough, attend synagogue enough and be a nice person enough and maybe enough will be enough to be forgiven. Christianity says enough isn't enough. It took more than a person can do in acts of worship and following rules to gain favour or pay for past sins. For the Christian, G-d had to clean the slate through H-s sacrifice. No human effort could buy that type of forgiveness for it requires an acknowledgement of our sin an inability to garner G-d's favour based on works. In one regard, to think human effort could cover sin is unfortunate because compared to G-d's goodness even our best is but dirt. Heaven and hell isn't a carrot and stick. Heaven is a promise based on G-d's character and forgiveness and Hell is the outcome of rejecting G-d. For a Christian, Hell has no power because we are saved by grace rather than works. A Christian isn't in fear of hell. He'll is the motivation for evangelism because the idea is to save the non believers from that horrible fate.
@@victorjvanderwoude3102: Christians very much DO have "fear of hell"!! Otherwise they wouldn't be following the false, pagan religion of "Christianity" that did NOT come from God, and preaches AGAINST what God said to us at Mt. Sinai. Christians are fear mongered into being "saved" to secure their Eternal destination, when God said NOTHING to us about needing to be "saved", or that He requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!) as atonement for our sins. Those falsehoods ONLY appear in the false, pagan NT that God NEVER mentioned to us, NOR did He ever mention the "Jesus" character. PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, and learn from the Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11.
Why have a Priesthood that has animal sacrifices if you could do things without a mediator or the necessity of blood? Only the high priest could go into the Holy of holies once a year. You weren't allowed this privilege. By blood you were saved in Egypt. By blood you were atoned for sin through a offering at the temple. Now you don't practice temple offering, how than do you atone for your sin now. Something has changed. Jesus was Jewish. The apostles and early church were Jewish and converts to Judaism. Later when Gentile starting joining because salvation was available through the Jewish Messiah (Greek word "Christ" and than the term Christianity became into existence. At the very least, Christianity is a product of Judaism or a branch of Judaism. To accept the Messiah isn't a conflict with Judaism. It conflicts with Jewish identity which want to maintain an attitude of superiority from everyone else. Jesus offered salvation to all.
what nonsense. first there are two sets of the commandments. second, they were conveniently broken and destroyed so that it would have to be proven that this happened. third, who doesn't know lying, cheating, stealing is impractical. fourth, the first couple of commandments are about admiring God. Fifth, there is nothing forbidding the rape of women. "The commandments are the most sound gift..." is patently absurd. Like everyone slapped their heads and said, oh I see now.
Really? What is the purpose for keeping the Law? Is it not because of this? *EZEKIEL 18:20* _The one who sins is the one who will die._ *EXODUS 32:33* _The Lord replied ..., “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my Book."_ Better to be told the cold hearted truth than live in blissful ignorance.
@Abraham Mani They denied him because the claims made by Christianity are opposed by the Bible. Vicarious atonement and a man being divine? These are not things one finds in Tanakh. You threaten Jews with hell while worshipping an idol.
Even the Virgin Mary (at Fatima) called for the consecration of Russia to her immaculate heart so that the Russian people/leaders would be converted to Christianity, not Roman Catholocism specifically. Russian/Eastern Orthodox may be the official Church of Russia? Turning away from God is the main issue here. Hell is a likely scenario for those who reject God and die in such a state of rejection of HIm. This is the opposite of dying in a state of Grace.
We only need to return to Yeshua the Messiah of Israel, not to replacement Christianity. Only Yeshua the Messiah! Yes, there is only eternal waterless pit. Only God of Judgement knows who goes where.
@Abraham Mani and you have effectively demonstrated how immoral and unethical the Christian faith is! No matter how guilty or wicked a person is, if they but accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour they get eternal life. No matter how innocent or good a person is, if they don't believe in Jesus then they get eternal punishment. If Yahweh had the characteristics described b Christians then Yahweh could have only made those people who would love him in paradise. Furthermore. Here is a more just and merciful system of salvation that I can justify from the Scriptures. Everyone receives a punishment equal to the crimes they committed. Afterwards they have three choices: 1) Eternal life with Yahweh. 2) Eternal life elsewhere in comfort. 3) To become nonexistent. See how I can come up with a more just system.
Hell with devils, pitchforks, is from Greek mythology. A lot of the problems of a person leaving church is that people were given low self esteem. It's hard to believe that Hashem loves me, just because I'm me, or you. G-d loves you. Forget the lowly worm stuff. Man was made in the image of G-d.
'G-d loves you'... The chances are He doesn't know you exist. He loves the world, of which you are a part. Indirectly, therefore, He loves you. Things could change if He ever got to know 'you' personally. One of the things He might look for is whether you acknowledge His son 'Jesus'.
So why is the weather not worse in non Jewish countries? The only reason I see in this video to convert to Judaism is, "don't follow Jesus or you'll go to hell." Please don't take offense. I'm only making this comment because I don't feel like that's the message you wanted to send, but that's what someone outside your faith picks up on. Like you said, weather patterns are falsifiable. If they are any indication of the correct religion, I'm gonna worship the Hawaiian gods...
1:41 Nothing similar?? Zec:13:8-9: And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. Da:12:1-2: And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Isa:65:12-15: Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit. And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: Any questions so far?
None of those verses talked about enteral hellfire. Dying and getting resurrected and being ashamed of one's deeds isn't the same as getting tortured in fire for eternity.
So we're God's concern the first sign of wisdom is to run like hell don't want to be near him be anxious every time his name comes up and tremble😂 I don't want that God why would you?! Why would anybody want to worship somebody that repulses😂
@@mickeydecurious Nice dodge. As an aside, I would argue that God's existence could be sufficiently established before we die, but that belongs under a different topic.
Where are your soul/spirit going when you died? Simply lingering in space aimlessly or died with yr body? We ought to know that there are heaven and hell coz that is the main purpose of worshipping God. Naturally God people place is heaven but hell is for people who follow the devil or against the Holy Spirit.
It does not need to speak of heaven or hell to install fear , it just takes to read the words "Fear the Lord thy God " & Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom Does thus fellow know that he is not off the Covenant , mixed with savage Synthians & Barbarian Druids & calling themselves Jews
Romans 11:7 " 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. 9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway." This was written by Paul who was a Jew a leader of the Jews. Right now and since Jesus died the Jews have been blinded so even if you wanted to you couldn't see the truth. This is something that's not debatable either you can see and God has given you vision to see or you haven't seen. If someone has something over their eyes to which they can't see anything, they will never believe what you're trying to show them.
@@kofiboat779 Paul was a Pharisee who used to go after and kill Christians and God transformed him into the cornerstone primary person that formed the non-jewish church now who can do something like that? I can only think of one and it starts with a G
When people read a contract or some other agreement, do they read it halfway and sign it, or do they read the full document? It's so sad to think that people's pride keeps them from a right relationship with God. That's not about religion...it's about salvation.
@@kofiboat779 It's not a natural kingdom, it's a spiritual kingdom (God is a spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth). It is a covenant of peace, because it is a kingdom of peace. Christ was from David's line, so that part was fulfilled. The sanctuary he speaks of is the human soul being made holy by the spirit of God, that happened on the day of Pentecost. Peter referenced this when he stood and said, "This is that spoken by the prophet Joel. In that day will I pour my spirit out upon all flesh..."
It's hard to have a hell as a place of torment when the Earth is a sphere filled with molten rock. Hell was lowest level of a three-decker universe with Earth in the middle and Heaven on top.
three-decker? Ben-Deker spent 3 mornings and 3 evenings (Nisan 14 morning through Nisan 17 evening) in the heart of the earth before resurrecting from the dead and ascending back into heaven from which he came.
He did way more than control the weather. The resurrection of Christ is the ultimate verification. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Jesus.
Pagan. You're a pagan Pagan religions of the time, such as those associated with the Roman predecessors, the Greeks, were steeped in mythology and superstition. Their manufacture of religious icons and heroes included the likes of Dionysus, whom they believed was the “Son of God.” They also attributed miraculous qualities to these figures such as virgin birth, vicarious atonement through martyred death, and later resurrection. Paul, who adopted a Greek name to appeal to his gentile audience, was clearly influenced by these beliefs as he wrote a good portion of the New Testament that is almost exclusively dedicated to the “miracle-laden” life and deeds of Jesus. The Christian Scriptures, in fact, are often identified as the Greek New Testament, as it was originally written in that language. Despite Jesus’ pronouncement (Paul never met Jesus personally), “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,” (Matthew 15 : 24) Paul took his message to the gentiles. (The truth of the matter is that he was woefully unsuccessful with converting Jews to his Jesus movement) Cognizant that the rigors of Judaism were an impediment to conversion, he made the process of becoming “Jewish” extremely easy. He abolished the need for circumcision, professing a belief in Jesus supplanted the performance of Mitzvot, and one merely had to dunk in water (Baptism) in order to join! Furthermore, Paul preached that the slightest infraction against the Torah was tantamount to violating the entire Torah, therefore the only way to be redeemed was to admit that one hasn’t the power to do good and most accept the vicarious atonement offered by the blood of Jesus. Here are the major religious philosophies and beliefs that Paul “invented”: • Suspension of circumcision as a prerequisite for “conversion” to Judaism • Vicarious (or transfer of guilt) atonement through belief in the resurrected body of Jesus. • Abrogation of basic Jewish practices such as observance of the Sabbath and Holidays, Kashrut, and family purity laws. • Belief that one could not achieve the “Kingdom of Heaven,” through righteous deeds, unless one also believed in Jesus as the Messiah and god. • Concept of the Trinity or tripartite godhead that consists of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. • The claim that the Messiah had to die and be resurrected from the dead. These form the major tenets of most of Christendom to this day.
So did Joan of Arc do more than control the weather. She performed other miracles, predicted the future, cheated death, etc. She also met all of the conditions for being the HOLY GRAIL: (1) she was a virgin and she was attended to by virgins (Saints Catherine of Alexandria and Margaret of Antioch). (2) She had the power to create kings i.e. King Charles VII of France, born on Chair of Saint Peter/Holy See Day (Feb 22, 1403) and died on Mary Magdalene Feast Day (July 22, 1461).
@@bookmouse2719 what is your definition of idol? Because biblically Jesus isn't an idol. Jesus is Indeed God. And I'm not sure how mean by the "new zeus". But name calling is a bit too dismissive.
@@wellsm2462 christianity is a made up religion mixed with Greek/Roman mythology and the communion is eating someone's body and blood. ☹😵💫 There is only One G-d and He created man in His image (not the other way around).
Rabbi Tovia Singer: Joan of Arc, the holy and undefiled virgin Daughter of God, in human flesh, made promises to people, predicted the future, performed miracles, and cheated death often, that can be verifyably backed up. No human being could make such promises unless they were God's Son or Daughter in human flesh. Only God is all knowing. The archangel Michael came to Joan often, training her for battle. He would address Joan as, "Jehanne la Pucelle. Enfant/Fille de Dieu". translated: "Joan the Virgin, Daughter of God". General Joan of Arc, the 17-year-old Shulamite (Song of Songs 6:10 KJV) promised the worrying wife of her lieutenant general (Jean II Duc de Alencon) that she would bring him home from battle back to her in better condition than when he left. At the battle of Jargeau, June 12, 1429 A.D., Joan told Alencon to move. Alencon hesitated. Move now, Joan said a second time. This time Alencon moved and ordered another soldier to take his position. That soidier was then immediately killed by a cannonball (or a large rock cast down from the top of the fort upon his head). Joan then climbed a siege ladder against the wall of the fort. Heavy rocks were cast down from the top of the fort upon her own head, sending her flying off the ladder into a back dive to the ground 15-20 feet below., landing flat on her back Joan shook off the otherwise mortal injury to the head, and took the fort before sundown. Similarly, at Orleans, she took a crossbow bolt to the heart above her left breast [which she predicted to Alencon the day before this happened], that she pulled out herself, and after a short rest, returned to the battle to raise the English Siege of the great city of Orleans (the gateway to southern France) that same day. At Orleans, Joan of Arc instantly changed the direction of the hindering winds, with her words, in favor of the French navigating the dangerous Loire River in their boats. This was seen as a miracle by all those who witnessed it including the military ruler of the city who testified about this miracle in a court of law 25 years after Joan of Arc's execution. To her Roman Catholic Judges, who interrogated her at Poitiers, to approve her before the Crown Prince of France could send her into battle, Joan told them, "I did not come here [sent by God] to perform tricks [they had asked her for a SIGN to prove to them that she was truly sent from God]. Give me an army. Send me to Orleans. There you will see the sign I was sent to make." -- Joan of Arc. Joan raised the 8-month-long English Siege of Orleans in 1 week's time on May 8, 1429 A.D... At the open field battle of Patay, June 18, 1429 A.D., Joan of Arc led the assault upon the English army from the front, riding her white horse, dressed in white armor, carrying her sword and battle standard showing God appearing above the mercy seat atop the Rainbow Arc of the Covenant between 2 angels. She loved her battle standard 40 times more than her sword, she said. [The sword she carried she unearthed from the ground where it had laid for 700 years hidden from mankind. It was the sword of Charles "the Hammer" Martel who had used it to stop the Muslim invasion of Europe in 732 A.D. at the battle of Poitiers/Tours France.] When the battle of Patay was over, and the dead counted, the French dead numbered 3. The English dead numbered 4,000. Jesus Christ fed the 4,000. Joan of Arc bled the 4,000. And just as Jesus Christ exceeded the number of people fed (i.e. 4,000), over the number fed by the prophet Elisha (perhaps 100), so too, Joan of Arc exceeded the number of insolent mockers killed (i.e. 4,000 seasoned soldiers), over the number killed by Elisha (42 boys). Elisha they had called "bald head". Joan they had called "a whore" though she was a virgn [verified by Catholic nuns at a convent at Poitiers]. JOAN OF ARC'S LAST WORDS as she burned alive at the stake: "JESUS. JESUS. JESUS". [perhaps sounding like "Jesse. Jesse. Jesse.", the father of King David]. "I AM [Je suis] a good Christian." -- Joan of Arc. "Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?" -- Song of Songs 6:10 KJV. She is Joan of Arc. "Joan of Arc is the GLORY of both the Universal Church and France, and France is the Tribe of Judah of the New Covenant." -- Pope Saint Pius X, 1909 A.D..
@@erichansen3641 Since I'm not leading an army in France or anywheres else I don't pose a threat....but you seem very triggered. Is your faith wriggly?
We never rewrote it as shown from dead sea scrolls and yemenite Jews being found with the same text and even some scrolls from 1st temple period found with no change. You have nothing on us. No way to bring us down. No strategy that will help yoi
2 TIMOTHY 2:12-13 "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself." If we suffer -- With him. As his members. For right doing; gladly and joyfully we drink whatever cup the Father may pour for us. Drink of his cup of suffering and death. Only those who suffer and die with him will share Messiah's throne of glory. The call of this Age is for sacrificers only--to follow our Redeemer's footsteps of self-denial, even unto death. Only those who will stand the test of faithfulness under sufferings, trials, crosses, self-sacrificers, have the promise of sharing with Christ in the glories of the Church Triumphant. "Heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with him." (Rom. 8:17) This feature has not yet been fully completed. These sufferings are not such as are common to humanity--sickness, etc.-- but sufferings for Christ's sake, which means activity in Christ's service. Jesus' sufferings were sacrificial, not for any wrong-doing; hence if we share in his sufferings, our sufferings must be sacrificial. This willingness to suffer is the covenant of sacrifice that we make with our Lord. By being made conformable to his death. Suffering which we bring on ourselves through faithfulness to our covenant. The favored of the Lord are required to pass through experiences of suffering more than others. These adversities should be accepted by them as marks of divine favor, fitting them for their future positions. It is one sacrifice in the sense that it is all one body of one Priest that is offered. As soon as the sufferings are ended the glory with begin. The glory of the great Christ, Head and body, cannot be ushered in until all of its sufferings are at an end. This thought should be before the minds of those who participate in the Memorial. In the close of this Age the Lord may take away his people in a fiery trouble; but as with Elijah, it will be a chariot to carry them home, to glory, honor and immortality. Those who anticipate that the followers of the Lamb are to be borne to Paradise on flowery beds of ease are surely mistaken. Reign with him -- Sharing the glories and honors of our Head on the spirit plane. When he has established his kingdom on earth. Participate in the inauguration of the new dispensation, and in dispensing its blessings. During the Millennial age. Participation with Jesus in the divine nature--glory, honor and immortality. If we miss the persecution we shall also miss the blessing. Made possible by the permission of sin. God could justly permit members of the fallen race, of the same disposition as Jesus to lay down their lives by suffering, to be accounted worthy of also reigning with him. "He called you by our Gospel to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." (2 Thess. 2:14) "Then shall we also appear with him in glory." (Col. 3:4) A86 If we deny him -- Disown. God gave to man full freedom of choice to do good or evil, that they may, like himself, do right because it is right. He expects of us courage to confess him. "They profess that they know God, but in works they deny him." (Titus 1:16) He also will deny us -- Will then deny us. 2 Timothy 2:13 Cannot deny himself -- God cannot do wrong. "It is impossible for God to lie." (Heb. 6:18) Because it would be inconsistent with his righteous character.
You obviously didn't understand the message in this video. Heaven and hell are unverifiable. Your crops not receiving the proper rain, sun etc. so they don't grow is. The threats made in the Tanakh from HaShem to the Jewish people were verifiable. The threats made by the Christians in the Christian Testament are unverifiable. The Christian Testament offers eternal life through worshiping Jesus....a man. Which is Idol worship. The advice of following Jesus to have eternal life will get you the exact opposite. Idol worship is wrong according to the Torah.
Dude you're a Pagan Pagan religions of the time, such as those associated with the Roman predecessors, the Greeks, were steeped in mythology and superstition. Their manufacture of religious icons and heroes included the likes of Dionysus, whom they believed was the “Son of God.” They also attributed miraculous qualities to these figures such as virgin birth, vicarious atonement through martyred death, and later resurrection. Paul, who adopted a Greek name to appeal to his gentile audience, was clearly influenced by these beliefs as he wrote a good portion of the New Testament that is almost exclusively dedicated to the “miracle-laden” life and deeds of Jesus. The Christian Scriptures, in fact, are often identified as the Greek New Testament, as it was originally written in that language. Despite Jesus’ pronouncement (Paul never met Jesus personally), “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,” (Matthew 15 : 24) Paul took his message to the gentiles. (The truth of the matter is that he was woefully unsuccessful with converting Jews to his Jesus movement) Cognizant that the rigors of Judaism were an impediment to conversion, he made the process of becoming “Jewish” extremely easy. He abolished the need for circumcision, professing a belief in Jesus supplanted the performance of Mitzvot, and one merely had to dunk in water (Baptism) in order to join! Furthermore, Paul preached that the slightest infraction against the Torah was tantamount to violating the entire Torah, therefore the only way to be redeemed was to admit that one hasn’t the power to do good and most accept the vicarious atonement offered by the blood of Jesus. Here are the major religious philosophies and beliefs that Paul “invented”: • Suspension of circumcision as a prerequisite for “conversion” to Judaism • Vicarious (or transfer of guilt) atonement through belief in the resurrected body of Jesus. • Abrogation of basic Jewish practices such as observance of the Sabbath and Holidays, Kashrut, and family purity laws. • Belief that one could not achieve the “Kingdom of Heaven,” through righteous deeds, unless one also believed in Jesus as the Messiah and god. • Concept of the Trinity or tripartite godhead that consists of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. • The claim that the Messiah had to die and be resurrected from the dead. These form the major tenets of most of Christendom to this day.
God never said ANY of that to us, and the "NT" where you got it from, is NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, and learn from the Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11.
Isaiah 9:6 this Immanuel will be born to us (to Judah=Israel), a son will be given to us (to Judah) and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name will be called wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. This son is the Messiah of Israel, the Mighty God of Israel! Dear Israel, you need to distinguish between the son/servant (Israel) and the son/servant (the Messiah of Israel). Because your Messiah is all over the Tanakh including the book of Isaiah. It is hard to distinguish because the Messiah is from the tribe of Judah to the tribe of Judah. But You can’t just simply say it is all about the servant Israel. You need “The blood of God’s covenant” As for you also, because of THE BLOOD OF MY COVENANT with you, I have set your prisoners FREE from the waterless pit. ZECHARIAH 9:11 Blood must be shed, there is no cheap cleansing no cheap salvation, This was serious thing in ancient Israel and same for you today. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement. LEVITICUS 17:11 All men are the prisoners of sin and transgressions. And this human condition SEPARATES US FROM GOD. ISAIAH 59:2 But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your G-d, and your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear. EZEKIEL 33:10 “Now as for you, son of man, say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus you have spoken, saying, “Surely our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and we are rotting away in them; how then can we survive?”’ And Yes, anyone who deny the Prince of peace will be put to the waterless pit. There is no eternal free but eternal waterless pit.
The Might God, Everlasting Father called his ( the child ) name "prince of peace" It is talking about Hazakiah. Even your Jesus said he didn't come to bring peace, see Matt 10:34
Heaven and hell isn't a carrot and a stick. Heaven is a promise based on G-d's character and offer of forgiveness through H-s sacrifice on the cross. All a person needs for forgiveness is the acknowledgement of our sinfulness and need for a savour - you have to accept the gift. Only G-d H-mself could provide this means of salvation through H-s perfect sacrifice on the cross - by grace not works. The incentive was a renewed relationship with G-d - heaven is just a benefit to that and not an end in itself. So advertising Heaven isn't a way to get people to become or stay Christian because non believers won't want the sacrifice it takes to get right with G-d and Christian's already have the promise from G-d. A "Christian" focusing on benefits like heaven isn't really Christian and will fall away when he/she is offered a better deal (better perks in this life not the next). As far as Hell, it's a consequence of not believing so has not pull on a true Christian. I don't worry about hell for myself but as an incentive to talk about the Good News (salvation) to others. It's trying to save others from hell. The focus is on Jesus not scaring people with hell though in a true conversion a person will acknowledge their path was leading them in that direction. The reality of sin does make the reality of Hell become real to a non Christian.
Heaven and Hell are completely immoral systems and show how Christianity completely contradicts itself. On the one hand Christians claim that Yahweh doesn't reveal himself so as to not interfere with our free will. On the other hand he threatens us with eternal torture if we don't worship him. There are many verses in the Scriptures which clearly indicate that Yahweh deliberately created some people destined for Hell. Thus making Yahweh an immoral and unethical monster. According to Christianity: No matter how wicked and depraved a person is, if they accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour they get to go to Heaven. No matter how good and innocent a person is, if they don't believe in Jesus they go to eternal torture and suffering. Jesus literally contradicts you. He clearly taught that the rewards of Heaven were a motivation for doing good and loving Yahweh. Typical of a Christian to say things that their Bible does not say and which contradicts it. You do know that according to the Scriptures that no liar has a place in Heaven. So, if you are right then maybe you should knock it off with the lies. Edit. If Yahweh had all the Omni characteristics that Christians claim he has then he could have simply created those he knew would love him in paradise and not made those who wouldn't love him. There is nothing inherently self-contradictory in that. Thus making me superior to Yahweh.
@@bookmouse2719 if you wish to reply with a statement which reflects your inner dialogue but gives little for the poster to respond to than it isn't helpful. When I think of carrot 🥕 and stick I'm talking about behaviour modification from an outside source. Manipulation to get their way and ultimately for someone else's benefit. You go to university for perceived benefit and to avoid failure than you find out your drop out friend works in a trade, has no student loans, and just bought a house. Your have a worthless degree, are jobless, and owe 80 k in debt. The carrot benefits can be a massive lie/unreal/imaginary/ or exaggeration and the stick consequences can be non existent or exaggerated. Huge lies underlie our education system with its carrot and stick approach. So I totally agree a carrot stick approach doesn't work in the long term in motivating people especially when it's all smoke and mirrors - mostly non existent rewards and little to no consequence. If you don't believe in Hell it doesn't scare you (you get to go too better parties in hell - type jokes). If you don't believe in Heaven it doesn't motivate you and you may even hate the idea because you can't do anything you want. The so called heaven and hell carrot stick just doesn't work anyway. If your a Christian and your faith is based on the carrot and stick mentality then you eventually become an atheist. The concepts of heaven and hell is just a reality of acceptance G-d's forgiveness or the consequences of rejecting him. For a devote knowledgable Christian - they are both real. The motivation isn't either though but the realization that G-d has made Himself know in your life in a unmistakable way (in Christian jargon Born again) and you need and want His forgiveness and relationship. Hell has no power over a believer but might motivate them to spread the good news (the gospel). The benefit for a believer is relationship with G-d now rather than Heaven itself. No one sits in church and contemplates the benefits of heaven in terms an atheist would understand - worship/service/sacrifice.
@@victorjvanderwoude3102 Thank you for your thoughtful answer...I personally try to do my best according to my faith, G-d is always waiting patiently. G-d is not a man that He will change His mind. Material wealth does not always bring happiness, extreme poverty doesn't either...modern universities indoctrinate evil in their teachings. Sometimes trade schools are far superior as they teach something useful.
@@bookmouse2719 Sounds like sarcasm. Trade school verses university was an example not a point. Otherwise a good summary. In the Christian faith, G-d is a specific being so I hope your not generalizing the term to fit some fuzzy spiritual other or believe every "god" claim is equally valid.
The fear, Jesus said he is the only way to God! If your deny him ,he will also deny us, now the new testament also saids to pray in his name , ask and you shall receive! So people pray to God in the name of Jesus! Yet his name was supposed to be "Immanuel " now the threat of going to hell if you don't believe in the trinity? And if you pray to God it must be according to the will of Jesus, cause they teach Jesus fulfilled the laws, so now if you obey the laws its hell ? What? If you obey God and seek a life of obedience to God, and worship God, then you will be judged in hell or to hell for disrespecting the son of God ,Jesus the holy Christ? Now in truth the new testament Jesus obeyed the laws, so to seek to be like him is to obey the commandments from God! Yet even if you love God and love how perfect his laws and holy commandments are, since the only way to God is through Jesus crucified and his assencion? So what does a person do? If you trust in God, then your trust his bible ? But if your trust his bible then the old testament and news testament contradicts each other! Example Genesis 1:1 in the beginning God created heaven and earth! But the news testament saids all things were made through and for Jesus? So now they teach Jesus is to be worshiped and we must go through Jesus ? It's a never ending cycle of confusion and doubt? And God will not hear prayers unless you pray with faith?...now in death it's to late to repent! On earth and during our life we are to repent, so I was born into the catholic church and a catholic family, in order for me to seek God I had to deny everything or just about everything in the catholic church! ...when my parents sent me to first communion ,I was always I. Trouble! I only wanted to pray to God and only wanted to worship God! Yet by doing so , I suffered! I was alone! Sick! Young! I figured I had my youth and before I got any older I wanted to repent! But to repent in the catholic church Is to call priest "father " and to go to confession, and say hail Mary's and aposlte creed or prayers to saint's? So their we go into the circle of confusion and sin! So was I to become arrogant , and not listen or obey family elders or church leaders that went to the pope to catholic church. Leaders?...I as a child always would cry to God, and would desire to be Hebrew or Jewish! To be able to learn his holy commandments and learn his holy days and celebrate them! Yet ...its not righteous to leave family and church! And once again God knew what family and church I was born to! ...so Christians claimed to know the bible, and claim to have a personal relationship with God, through Jesus! Now here we go again, seeing the sins of their doctrine, and since I was a child, who was I to tell elders to repent! So in youth a person has the energy and passion to seek truth and to pray to God for guidance and protection! And time passes , and passes , and as age creeps in, and knowledge creeps in , and prayers are not heard, it appears of course if God is for you then your blessed if God is against you no man could help you! But what if a man trusts in God with faith that God is righteous and above the knowledge of man! Why then does it appear if a man seeks a life of obedience to God through his holy commandments, then why dies death, shame, sickness, doubt confusion, so many sins and obstacles of this generation? Worst then the days of the tower of babbel! How? Space race and technology and rockets sent to the heavens! And Israel the chosen nation of God is in the mix with nations who have nuclear-biological-chemical weapons, rockets and space race! Some nations even believe aliens and going to another planet! And science and how many hospitals have how many doctors and nurses that have xrays ,tv, radio, technology that the bible saids is evil! Even in the usa they give freedom to have Satan have churches! They make movies, tv and radios and movies about the devil and monsters! How many know holloween? So what can a person do to worship God! To seek to please God! If your trust God punished those during the days of the tower of babbel, and sodom and Gomorah, then how many will be judged that live in this generation?...but they preach "rapture " two were raptured Enoch and Elijah! What if they lived in a nation that went to the moon? That sent rockets to heaven? That sent messages from space race back to earth , and from earth back to the heavens? Or space race? Who in the holy bible lived in a generation when Facebook or Twitter and world wide conversations were taking place,? Who in the old testament lived in the days where God would not answer prayers? God loved those he allowed to see and hear him! GOD loves the Hebrew nation and those whom he gave the commandments to! When was the last time a person could pray to God and God answer? When was the last time God healed? ...we need to repent! But we need a leader or people to ask God to open his heart ,to forgive those who call upon him! To help those who trust in the love ,loyalty , and righteousness from the heart of God! We need someone with the courage to ask God to provide for us ans help us! ....please keep trying and please don't give up on the love God can reveal! Amen!
The Jewish books( Moses laws and others) are meant for Jews only, not applicable even to children of Esau. So, is God the God of Jews only? Then who created rest of the mankind?
@@BiigFigJ Jews are those who don't obey Moses's laws, just boast about Moses's law. And Most of the people claiming to be Jews are not Jews. Do you follow Moses's laws?
Salvation is doctrine in the OT. The Jews looked forward to the Messiah. God is the same always. Christians didn't invent new ideas, they all have their origins in the OT. There's an after life in the OT, one for punishment and one for the good guys. Jesus telling us this is true isn't a new idea. Jesus saying the Sabbath is made for man isn't a new idea. It is right there in the OT. Jesus saying the Messiah must suffer and die isn't a new idea, it is in the OT. If we are going to apply a process for Israel returning to the promised land twice than we must be consistent and make the same application to the Messiah. Jesus and Israel are both in process of fulfilling the prophecies.
Notice all you did was assert your views, but you didn't cite books of the Tanakh to support the view. Anyone can assert "I'm right, actually," but it's harder to back it up.
@@captainpandabear1422 I did give my views, if you disagree maybe you could give a citation in verse as to why. Or do you really want me to list all the verses that talk about salvation in the OT.
@@solonkazos1379 If you could list even one clear, unambiguous text from the Hebrew Bible that gives a traditional, Christian view of salvation and the afterlife that'd be real nice, yeah. Let's start there.
@@solonkazos1379 And what do the preceding verses make clear about who the "son" in question is? What does "kiss" the son mean? Where is vicarious atonement brought up? So you are citing one isolated verse out of context and expect that to convince?
Through Christ, God gave us back the divine life mankind lost in its fall. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons, we experience up to this day. To not see God in Christ.... is impossible. "The Father and I are one!" "If you see Me, you see the Father!" "Don't you believe that the Father is IN Me?" "ALL (!) AUTHORITY in heaven and earth has been given to Me!". (Only God has all authority). At healing the paralytic: "Your sins have been forgiven you!" (Only God can forgive sins). "I am THE (not a) light of the world"......: God. "I have come to give you Zoë (=divine life) in abundance".... Only God can give Zoë life. "I am from above, you are from beneath. You are from this world, I am not from this world"..... Etc, etc, etc, When He explained these things, healed the sick, casted out demons, raised the dead, controlled nature for 3 years, they all worshipped Him as God/Messiah.... except for the critical scholars and farisees! He NEVER said: "Don't worship Me, I am just a prophet!". The Jews wanted to stone Him because: "You claim to be God". So Jesus is God manifesting in Human form. Period. Glad He did. So now we finally know the sayings and actions of God. Next step. To not see Jesus bringing the divine life of the ages back to you-manity.... is impossible. "I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, etc, etc" "Follow Me, the miracles I do, you will do too" "God is IN you" "The Kingdom of God is IN you" "He who meets you, meets Me". "You and I are one" "You will understand that the Father is IN Me and I am in you" "See, I have given you power over all the forces of the enemy" "I have come to give you Zoë (=divine life) in abundance!" Etc, etc, etc. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons with His first 12+72 friends. As i understood these things, i experienced healing miracles and the casting out of demons already thousands of times and many other true believers do too. Yay! Conclusion of Paul after having revelation and healing all on Malta: "Jesus, the exact image of the invisible God. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily" and you have been made complete IN Him (the last Adam), who is the head of every principality and power". John (who had seen, touched, heard Jesus and walked in the same power and love): "the invisible God manifested in human form, in Christ and now in us". Thomas having revelation saying to Jesus: "My Lord and My God!". Jesus being God did NOT correct Him. Etc, etc, etc. His life totally proves He is God in human form. Begotten by the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God, healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature, raised from the dead, pouring out His Spirit for us to be indwelled by to be empowered to heal the sick and cast out demons, etc, etc, etc. Way to much to degrade Him to "just a prophet". So... Jesus is the manifestation of God in a human body.... "the Son" of God. He came to take the alienation away mankind got trapped in after the fall. He came to give us back the divine life Adam/mankind lost in its fall. Because of this fall, a perfect Holy sacrifice had to be made. That is what God did in Christ! It shows His deep, pure, affectionate passion from Him to you/His creation, to restore you back to origin: Christlikeness. Walking in divine power and unselfish divine love. Jesus walked flawless. Muhammed on the other hand.... Muhammed came after Jesus. He unfortunately never understood God's resolve for mankind's fall, wrote another story, called it the only truth, cutting of the real truth, leading millions astray from their godly identity in Christ. Heartbreaking. But for those who take Jesus for who He is and ask to be filled by His godly Holy Spirit.....: divine life. Tangible presence of God, healings, demons running for cover, etc. Just as with His first 12+72 friends. God will make you experience the full (godly) Life made possible through Holy Spirit. So don't be afraid to leave islam. God can only be found in/through Jesus Christ. Ask Him to fill you with His/God's Holy Spirit so He can guide you into truth and transform your life. You and God/Jesus are finally one again. He will open your eyes and give you Zoë (divine life). You will be growing into Him in all things. The life you see in Him and His first 12+72 friends. I experience it since 25 years and so will you.
What happens to those who didn't get the opportunity to hear of Jesus? Like Natives of various lands that died before the white man ever showed up. Now I love Jesus and what he teaches, but I find Buddhist, Hindu, Taoist and various other religious/spiritual practices to teach the very same things. Jesus was the only difference in that he was made to be a great sacrifice out of Love.
He wasn't a sacrifice. It's forbidden and pagan. thousands of Jews were crucified. You are. a pagan - Christianity is made up by Paul -second rate fan fiction based on paganism with misquoted and mistranslated Hebrew added in.
According to the NT, they all go to hell. Don't worry though, based on the criteria set forth by Jesus' own words, nearly everyone is going to hell. It's only Paul and whoever wrote John that teach falsely that all that is required is to believe in Jesus. Jesus taught you have to give up everything you have and suffer as he did or you weren't getting in.
So like an abusive relationship. You are threatened that you will go to hell if you try to leave the belief in jesus. Thank you Rabbi Tovia. Your teachings are so helpful and clear to understand. "Delicious"
It's like a *drink drive message*
The drunkard hates to be told not to drive. _After all, he thinks he knows better._
Very well explained Rabbi Singer. The Commandments are the road map that God lovingly gave us to help us live a life of commitment to the right path. And only we can repent and be contrite for our trespasses with a sincere heart and get back on the way God showed us. God is divine and the most high. As far as threats by Christianity to encourage believing in Jesus in order to have salvation when we die shows no faith that humans can repent and be accountable in this life by repentance without an intermediary. The commandments are the most sound gift the creator gave us. All Christian theology’s promises of salvation can not be verifiable.
A Muslim could say the same thing. Qur'an as the road map, following a set of rules.... etc. Any religious movement can and does add works toward forgiveness as a part of it's beliefs. Pray enough, attend synagogue enough and be a nice person enough and maybe enough will be enough to be forgiven.
Christianity says enough isn't enough. It took more than a person can do in acts of worship and following rules to gain favour or pay for past sins. For the Christian, G-d had to clean the slate through H-s sacrifice. No human effort could buy that type of forgiveness for it requires an acknowledgement of our sin an inability to garner G-d's favour based on works. In one regard, to think human effort could cover sin is unfortunate because compared to G-d's goodness even our best is but dirt.
Heaven and hell isn't a carrot and stick. Heaven is a promise based on G-d's character and forgiveness and Hell is the outcome of rejecting G-d. For a Christian, Hell has no power because we are saved by grace rather than works. A Christian isn't in fear of hell. He'll is the motivation for evangelism because the idea is to save the non believers from that horrible fate.
@@victorjvanderwoude3102: Christians very much DO have "fear of hell"!! Otherwise they wouldn't be following the false, pagan religion of "Christianity" that did NOT come from God, and preaches AGAINST what God said to us at Mt. Sinai.
Christians are fear mongered into being "saved" to secure their Eternal destination, when God said NOTHING to us about needing to be "saved", or that He requires HUMAN BLOOD (a purely pagan ritual that God ABHORS!) as atonement for our sins. Those falsehoods ONLY appear in the false, pagan NT that God NEVER mentioned to us, NOR did He ever mention the "Jesus" character. PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, and learn from the Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11.
To me it sounds if your saying you can earn G-d's forgiveness rather receive it as a gift from G-d through faith.
Why have a Priesthood that has animal sacrifices if you could do things without a mediator or the necessity of blood? Only the high priest could go into the Holy of holies once a year. You weren't allowed this privilege. By blood you were saved in Egypt. By blood you were atoned for sin through a offering at the temple. Now you don't practice temple offering, how than do you atone for your sin now. Something has changed.
Jesus was Jewish. The apostles and early church were Jewish and converts to Judaism. Later when Gentile starting joining because salvation was available through the Jewish Messiah (Greek word "Christ" and than the term Christianity became into existence. At the very least, Christianity is a product of Judaism or a branch of Judaism. To accept the Messiah isn't a conflict with Judaism. It conflicts with Jewish identity which want to maintain an attitude of superiority from everyone else. Jesus offered salvation to all.
what nonsense. first there are two sets of the commandments. second, they were conveniently broken and destroyed so that it would have to be proven that this happened. third, who doesn't know lying, cheating, stealing is impractical. fourth, the first couple of commandments are about admiring God. Fifth, there is nothing forbidding the rape of women. "The commandments are the most sound gift..." is patently absurd. Like everyone slapped their heads and said, oh I see now.
Thank you. This is so great!!
Really? What is the purpose for keeping the Law?
Is it not because of this?
*EZEKIEL 18:20* _The one who sins is the one who will die._
*EXODUS 32:33* _The Lord replied ..., “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my Book."_
Better to be told the cold hearted truth than live in blissful ignorance.
Thanks Reb , I am in love with your knowledge thank you.
I always had a problem with this topic
My mom and other christian s always threatening with going to hell if I don't choose Christianity
@Abraham Mani
They denied him because the claims made by Christianity are opposed by the Bible. Vicarious atonement and a man being divine? These are not things one finds in Tanakh. You threaten Jews with hell while worshipping an idol.
Even the Virgin Mary (at Fatima) called for the consecration of Russia to her immaculate heart so that the Russian people/leaders would be converted to Christianity, not Roman Catholocism specifically. Russian/Eastern Orthodox may be the official Church of Russia? Turning away from God is the main issue here. Hell is a likely scenario for those who reject God and die in such a state of rejection of HIm. This is the opposite of dying in a state of Grace.
We only need to return to Yeshua the Messiah of Israel, not to replacement Christianity. Only Yeshua the Messiah! Yes, there is only eternal waterless pit. Only God of Judgement knows who goes where.
There's a simple refutation. Ask them if they are afraid of going to the Muslim Hell.
@Abraham Mani and you have effectively demonstrated how immoral and unethical the Christian faith is!
No matter how guilty or wicked a person is, if they but accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour they get eternal life.
No matter how innocent or good a person is, if they don't believe in Jesus then they get eternal punishment.
If Yahweh had the characteristics described b Christians then Yahweh could have only made those people who would love him in paradise.
Furthermore. Here is a more just and merciful system of salvation that I can justify from the Scriptures.
Everyone receives a punishment equal to the crimes they committed. Afterwards they have three choices:
1) Eternal life with Yahweh.
2) Eternal life elsewhere in comfort.
3) To become nonexistent.
See how I can come up with a more just system.
Hell with devils, pitchforks, is from Greek mythology. A lot of the problems of a person leaving church is that people were given low self esteem. It's hard to believe that Hashem loves me, just because I'm me, or you. G-d loves you. Forget the lowly worm stuff. Man was made in the image of G-d.
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'G-d loves you'... The chances are He doesn't know you exist. He loves the world, of which you are a part. Indirectly, therefore, He loves you. Things could change if He ever got to know 'you' personally. One of the things He might look for is whether you acknowledge His son 'Jesus'.
@@nickg5010 he doesn't know you.
@@bookmouse2719 I am inclined to say I hope He doesn't. I know Him however, which I think gives me the advantage.
@@nickg5010 you are probably talking to yourself in your own brain.
So why is the weather not worse in non Jewish countries?
The only reason I see in this video to convert to Judaism is, "don't follow Jesus or you'll go to hell."
Please don't take offense. I'm only making this comment because I don't feel like that's the message you wanted to send, but that's what someone outside your faith picks up on.
Like you said, weather patterns are falsifiable. If they are any indication of the correct religion, I'm gonna worship the Hawaiian gods...
why isn't God still controlling the weather to teach us to be good then?
@@Doriesep6622 I know right? That's what I'm saying.
Isaiah 53:8-9
1:41 Nothing similar??
Zec:13:8-9:
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Da:12:1-2:
And at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble,
such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:
and at that time thy people shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life,
and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Isa:65:12-15:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
Any questions so far?
None of those verses talked about enteral hellfire. Dying and getting resurrected and being ashamed of one's deeds isn't the same as getting tortured in fire for eternity.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
So we're God's concern the first sign of wisdom is to run like hell don't want to be near him be anxious every time his name comes up and tremble😂 I don't want that God why would you?! Why would anybody want to worship somebody that repulses😂
@@mickeydecurious I was just quoting from the Jewish scriptures. So are you here to argue for atheism?
@@haroldensle6656
Can argue for or against atheism🤔💭 It's like arguing for, or against God ✌️
@@haroldensle6656
I'm neither arguing for God's existence, or against God's existence we don't find that out until we die anyway. 🤷
@@mickeydecurious Nice dodge. As an aside, I would argue that God's existence could be sufficiently established before we die, but that belongs under a different topic.
the christian version of hell scares people into believing
Where are your soul/spirit going when you died? Simply lingering in space aimlessly or died with yr body? We ought to know that there are heaven and hell coz that is the main purpose of worshipping God. Naturally God people place is heaven but hell is for people who follow the devil or against the Holy Spirit.
So in essence we are only to worship God because we don't want to go to hell😮
It does not need to speak of heaven or hell to install fear , it just takes to read the words "Fear the Lord thy God " & Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom
Does thus fellow know that he is not off the Covenant , mixed with savage Synthians & Barbarian Druids & calling themselves Jews
This was rabbi will see he’ll for himself. He won’t be able to intimidate God anymore with his false religion!
You call the religion of mose and Abraham false is quite ironic.
Who Cares What Timothy said??? Timothy is Not Jesus,,, He was Not one of the 12 Apostles ,, He is Not Qualified For Anything
Romans 11:7 " 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway."
This was written by Paul who was a Jew a leader of the Jews. Right now and since Jesus died the Jews have been blinded so even if you wanted to you couldn't see the truth. This is something that's not debatable either you can see and God has given you vision to see or you haven't seen.
If someone has something over their eyes to which they can't see anything, they will never believe what you're trying to show them.
Romans? Who is speaking? Paul letters?🤣🤣
@@kofiboat779 Paul was a Pharisee who used to go after and kill Christians and God transformed him into the cornerstone primary person that formed the non-jewish church now who can do something like that? I can only think of one and it starts with a G
When people read a contract or some other agreement, do they read it halfway and sign it, or do they read the full document? It's so sad to think that people's pride keeps them from a right relationship with God. That's not about religion...it's about salvation.
@@Architectureguy Read Ezekiel 37:24-28 and get back to me
@@kofiboat779 It's not a natural kingdom, it's a spiritual kingdom (God is a spirit, and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth). It is a covenant of peace, because it is a kingdom of peace. Christ was from David's line, so that part was fulfilled.
The sanctuary he speaks of is the human soul being made holy by the spirit of God, that happened on the day of Pentecost. Peter referenced this when he stood and said, "This is that spoken by the prophet Joel. In that day will I pour my spirit out upon all flesh..."
It's hard to have a hell as a place of torment when the Earth is a sphere filled with molten rock. Hell was lowest level of a three-decker universe with Earth in the middle and Heaven on top.
three-decker? Ben-Deker spent 3 mornings and 3 evenings (Nisan 14 morning through Nisan 17 evening) in the heart of the earth before resurrecting from the dead and ascending back into heaven from which he came.
That's why we call him Jebus
He did way more than control the weather.
The resurrection of Christ is the ultimate verification. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Jesus.
Pagan. You're a pagan
Pagan religions of the time, such as those associated with the Roman predecessors, the Greeks, were steeped in mythology and superstition. Their manufacture of religious icons and heroes included the likes of Dionysus, whom they believed was the “Son of God.” They also attributed miraculous qualities to these figures such as virgin birth, vicarious atonement through martyred death, and later resurrection. Paul, who adopted a Greek name to appeal to his gentile audience, was clearly influenced by these beliefs as he wrote a good portion of the New Testament that is almost exclusively dedicated to the “miracle-laden” life and deeds of Jesus. The Christian Scriptures, in fact, are often identified as the Greek New Testament, as it was originally written in that language.
Despite Jesus’ pronouncement (Paul never met Jesus personally), “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,” (Matthew 15 : 24) Paul took his message to the gentiles. (The truth of the matter is that he was woefully unsuccessful with converting Jews to his Jesus movement) Cognizant that the rigors of Judaism were an impediment to conversion, he made the process of becoming “Jewish” extremely easy. He abolished the need for circumcision, professing a belief in Jesus supplanted the performance of Mitzvot, and one merely had to dunk in water (Baptism) in order to join! Furthermore, Paul preached that the slightest infraction against the Torah was tantamount to violating the entire Torah, therefore the only way to be redeemed was to admit that one hasn’t the power to do good and most accept the vicarious atonement offered by the blood of Jesus.
Here are the major religious philosophies and beliefs that Paul “invented”:
• Suspension of circumcision as a prerequisite for “conversion” to Judaism
• Vicarious (or transfer of guilt) atonement through belief in the resurrected body of Jesus.
• Abrogation of basic Jewish practices such as observance of the Sabbath and Holidays, Kashrut, and family purity laws.
• Belief that one could not achieve the “Kingdom of Heaven,” through righteous deeds, unless one also believed in Jesus as the Messiah and god.
• Concept of the Trinity or tripartite godhead that consists of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.
• The claim that the Messiah had to die and be resurrected from the dead.
These form the major tenets of most of Christendom to this day.
So did Joan of Arc do more than control the weather. She performed other miracles, predicted the future, cheated death, etc. She also met all of the conditions for being the HOLY GRAIL: (1) she was a virgin and she was attended to by virgins (Saints Catherine of Alexandria and Margaret of Antioch). (2) She had the power to create kings i.e. King Charles VII of France, born on Chair of Saint Peter/Holy See Day (Feb 22, 1403) and died on Mary Magdalene Feast Day (July 22, 1461).
idol worship is sin
you believe in the new zeus
@@bookmouse2719 what is your definition of idol? Because biblically Jesus isn't an idol. Jesus is Indeed God.
And I'm not sure how mean by the "new zeus". But name calling is a bit too dismissive.
@@wellsm2462 christianity is a made up religion mixed with Greek/Roman mythology and the communion is eating someone's body and blood. ☹😵💫
There is only One G-d and He created man in His image (not the other way around).
Rabbi Tovia Singer: Joan of Arc, the holy and undefiled virgin Daughter of God, in human flesh, made promises to people, predicted the future, performed miracles, and cheated death often, that can be verifyably backed up. No human being could make such promises unless they were God's Son or Daughter in human flesh. Only God is all knowing. The archangel Michael came to Joan often, training her for battle. He would address Joan as, "Jehanne la Pucelle. Enfant/Fille de Dieu". translated: "Joan the Virgin, Daughter of God". General Joan of Arc, the 17-year-old Shulamite (Song of Songs 6:10 KJV) promised the worrying wife of her lieutenant general (Jean II Duc de Alencon) that she would bring him home from battle back to her in better condition than when he left. At the battle of Jargeau, June 12, 1429 A.D., Joan told Alencon to move. Alencon hesitated. Move now, Joan said a second time. This time Alencon moved and ordered another soldier to take his position. That soidier was then immediately killed by a cannonball (or a large rock cast down from the top of the fort upon his head). Joan then climbed a siege ladder against the wall of the fort. Heavy rocks were cast down from the top of the fort upon her own head, sending her flying off the ladder into a back dive to the ground 15-20 feet below., landing flat on her back Joan shook off the otherwise mortal injury to the head, and took the fort before sundown. Similarly, at Orleans, she took a crossbow bolt to the heart above her left breast [which she predicted to Alencon the day before this happened], that she pulled out herself, and after a short rest, returned to the battle to raise the English Siege of the great city of Orleans (the gateway to southern France) that same day. At Orleans, Joan of Arc instantly changed the direction of the hindering winds, with her words, in favor of the French navigating the dangerous Loire River in their boats. This was seen as a miracle by all those who witnessed it including the military ruler of the city who testified about this miracle in a court of law 25 years after Joan of Arc's execution. To her Roman Catholic Judges, who interrogated her at Poitiers, to approve her before the Crown Prince of France could send her into battle, Joan told them, "I did not come here [sent by God] to perform tricks [they had asked her for a SIGN to prove to them that she was truly sent from God]. Give me an army. Send me to Orleans. There you will see the sign I was sent to make." -- Joan of Arc. Joan raised the 8-month-long English Siege of Orleans in 1 week's time on May 8, 1429 A.D... At the open field battle of Patay, June 18, 1429 A.D., Joan of Arc led the assault upon the English army from the front, riding her white horse, dressed in white armor, carrying her sword and battle standard showing God appearing above the mercy seat atop the Rainbow Arc of the Covenant between 2 angels. She loved her battle standard 40 times more than her sword, she said. [The sword she carried she unearthed from the ground where it had laid for 700 years hidden from mankind. It was the sword of Charles "the Hammer" Martel who had used it to stop the Muslim invasion of Europe in 732 A.D. at the battle of Poitiers/Tours France.] When the battle of Patay was over, and the dead counted, the French dead numbered 3. The English dead numbered 4,000. Jesus Christ fed the 4,000. Joan of Arc bled the 4,000. And just as Jesus Christ exceeded the number of people fed (i.e. 4,000), over the number fed by the prophet Elisha (perhaps 100), so too, Joan of Arc exceeded the number of insolent mockers killed (i.e. 4,000 seasoned soldiers), over the number killed by Elisha (42 boys). Elisha they had called "bald head". Joan they had called "a whore" though she was a virgn [verified by Catholic nuns at a convent at Poitiers]. JOAN OF ARC'S LAST WORDS as she burned alive at the stake: "JESUS. JESUS. JESUS". [perhaps sounding like "Jesse. Jesse. Jesse.", the father of King David]. "I AM [Je suis] a good Christian." -- Joan of Arc. "Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?" -- Song of Songs 6:10 KJV. She is Joan of Arc. "Joan of Arc is the GLORY of both the Universal Church and France, and France is the Tribe of Judah of the New Covenant." -- Pope Saint Pius X, 1909 A.D..
she got roasted
@@bookmouse2719 Same fate awaits you?
@@erichansen3641 Since I'm not leading an army in France or anywheres else I don't pose a threat....but you seem very triggered. Is your faith wriggly?
@@bookmouse2719 You may fry in Hell, right? That's what I meant.
The Jews did the smart thing by rewriting the Jewish bible with predictions about the Babylonian exile _after_ the Babylonian exile.
We never rewrote it as shown from dead sea scrolls and yemenite Jews being found with the same text and even some scrolls from 1st temple period found with no change.
You have nothing on us. No way to bring us down. No strategy that will help yoi
2 TIMOTHY 2:12-13 "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself."
If we suffer -- With him.
As his members.
For right doing; gladly and joyfully we drink whatever cup the Father may pour for us.
Drink of his cup of suffering and death.
Only those who suffer and die with him will share Messiah's throne of glory. The call of this Age is for sacrificers only--to follow our Redeemer's footsteps of self-denial, even unto death. Only those who will stand the test of faithfulness under sufferings, trials, crosses, self-sacrificers, have the promise of sharing with Christ in the glories of the Church Triumphant.
"Heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with him." (Rom. 8:17)
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These sufferings are not such as are common to humanity--sickness, etc.-- but sufferings for Christ's sake, which means activity in Christ's service.
Jesus' sufferings were sacrificial, not for any wrong-doing; hence if we share in his sufferings, our sufferings must be sacrificial.
This willingness to suffer is the covenant of sacrifice that we make with our Lord.
By being made conformable to his death.
Suffering which we bring on ourselves through faithfulness to our covenant.
The favored of the Lord are required to pass through experiences of suffering more than others. These adversities should be accepted by them as marks of divine favor, fitting them for their future positions.
It is one sacrifice in the sense that it is all one body of one Priest that is offered.
As soon as the sufferings are ended the glory with begin.
The glory of the great Christ, Head and body, cannot be ushered in until all of its sufferings are at an end.
This thought should be before the minds of those who participate in the Memorial.
In the close of this Age the Lord may take away his people in a fiery trouble; but as with Elijah, it will be a chariot to carry them home, to glory, honor and immortality.
Those who anticipate that the followers of the Lamb are to be borne to Paradise on flowery beds of ease are surely mistaken.
Reign with him -- Sharing the glories and honors of our Head on the spirit plane.
When he has established his kingdom on earth.
Participate in the inauguration of the new dispensation, and in dispensing its blessings.
During the Millennial age.
Participation with Jesus in the divine nature--glory, honor and immortality.
If we miss the persecution we shall also miss the blessing.
Made possible by the permission of sin. God could justly permit members of the fallen race, of the same disposition as Jesus to lay down their lives by suffering, to be accounted worthy of also reigning with him.
"He called you by our Gospel to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." (2 Thess. 2:14)
"Then shall we also appear with him in glory." (Col. 3:4) A86
If we deny him -- Disown.
God gave to man full freedom of choice to do good or evil, that they may, like himself, do right because it is right.
He expects of us courage to confess him.
"They profess that they know God, but in works they deny him." (Titus 1:16)
He also will deny us -- Will then deny us.
2 Timothy 2:13
Cannot deny himself -- God cannot do wrong. "It is impossible for God to lie." (Heb. 6:18)
Because it would be inconsistent with his righteous character.
You obviously didn't understand the message in this video. Heaven and hell are unverifiable. Your crops not receiving the proper rain, sun etc. so they don't grow is. The threats made in the Tanakh from HaShem to the Jewish people were verifiable. The threats made by the Christians in the Christian Testament are unverifiable. The Christian Testament offers eternal life through worshiping Jesus....a man. Which is Idol worship. The advice of following Jesus to have eternal life will get you the exact opposite. Idol worship is wrong according to the Torah.
Rubbish, the god of genesis isnt yaweh the cananite war god he was adopted later.
Dude you're a Pagan
Pagan religions of the time, such as those associated with the Roman predecessors, the Greeks, were steeped in mythology and superstition. Their manufacture of religious icons and heroes included the likes of Dionysus, whom they believed was the “Son of God.” They also attributed miraculous qualities to these figures such as virgin birth, vicarious atonement through martyred death, and later resurrection. Paul, who adopted a Greek name to appeal to his gentile audience, was clearly influenced by these beliefs as he wrote a good portion of the New Testament that is almost exclusively dedicated to the “miracle-laden” life and deeds of Jesus. The Christian Scriptures, in fact, are often identified as the Greek New Testament, as it was originally written in that language.
Despite Jesus’ pronouncement (Paul never met Jesus personally), “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,” (Matthew 15 : 24) Paul took his message to the gentiles. (The truth of the matter is that he was woefully unsuccessful with converting Jews to his Jesus movement) Cognizant that the rigors of Judaism were an impediment to conversion, he made the process of becoming “Jewish” extremely easy. He abolished the need for circumcision, professing a belief in Jesus supplanted the performance of Mitzvot, and one merely had to dunk in water (Baptism) in order to join! Furthermore, Paul preached that the slightest infraction against the Torah was tantamount to violating the entire Torah, therefore the only way to be redeemed was to admit that one hasn’t the power to do good and most accept the vicarious atonement offered by the blood of Jesus.
Here are the major religious philosophies and beliefs that Paul “invented”:
• Suspension of circumcision as a prerequisite for “conversion” to Judaism
• Vicarious (or transfer of guilt) atonement through belief in the resurrected body of Jesus.
• Abrogation of basic Jewish practices such as observance of the Sabbath and Holidays, Kashrut, and family purity laws.
• Belief that one could not achieve the “Kingdom of Heaven,” through righteous deeds, unless one also believed in Jesus as the Messiah and god.
• Concept of the Trinity or tripartite godhead that consists of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.
• The claim that the Messiah had to die and be resurrected from the dead.
These form the major tenets of most of Christendom to this day.
God never said ANY of that to us, and the "NT" where you got it from, is NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. PLEASE do some honest research on this subject, and learn from the Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11.
You've got a whole ton of problems to address before you get to Timothy. 🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, 2Tim 2:12 has nothing to do with hell and heaven😞
Paul letter to his friend, Timothy is holy?😂
@@kofiboat779 Holy is holey.
Isaiah 9:6 this Immanuel will be born to us (to Judah=Israel), a son will be given to us (to Judah) and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name will be called wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
This son is the Messiah of Israel, the Mighty God of Israel!
Dear Israel, you need to distinguish between the son/servant (Israel) and the son/servant (the Messiah of Israel). Because your Messiah is all over the Tanakh including the book of Isaiah. It is hard to distinguish because the Messiah is from the tribe of Judah to the tribe of Judah. But You can’t just simply say it is all about the servant Israel.
You need “The blood of God’s covenant”
As for you also, because of THE BLOOD OF MY COVENANT with you, I have set your prisoners FREE from the waterless pit. ZECHARIAH 9:11
Blood must be shed, there is no cheap cleansing no cheap salvation, This was serious thing in ancient Israel and same for you today.
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement. LEVITICUS 17:11
All men are the prisoners of sin and transgressions. And this human condition SEPARATES US FROM GOD.
ISAIAH 59:2 But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your G-d, and your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.
EZEKIEL 33:10 “Now as for you, son of man, say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus you have spoken, saying, “Surely our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and we are rotting away in them; how then can we survive?”’
And Yes, anyone who deny the Prince of peace will be put to the waterless pit. There is no eternal free but eternal waterless pit.
Isaiah 9 is talking about war, the prophet said it will be like, see Isaiah 9:4
The Might God, Everlasting Father called his ( the child ) name "prince of peace" It is talking about Hazakiah. Even your Jesus said he didn't come to bring peace, see Matt 10:34
any religion that sacrifices and calls for blood is total nonsense
Heaven and hell isn't a carrot and a stick.
Heaven is a promise based on G-d's character and offer of forgiveness through H-s sacrifice on the cross. All a person needs for forgiveness is the acknowledgement of our sinfulness and need for a savour - you have to accept the gift. Only G-d H-mself could provide this means of salvation through H-s perfect sacrifice on the cross - by grace not works.
The incentive was a renewed relationship with G-d - heaven is just a benefit to that and not an end in itself. So advertising Heaven isn't a way to get people to become or stay Christian because non believers won't want the sacrifice it takes to get right with G-d and Christian's already have the promise from G-d. A "Christian" focusing on benefits like heaven isn't really Christian and will fall away when he/she is offered a better deal (better perks in this life not the next).
As far as Hell, it's a consequence of not believing so has not pull on a true Christian. I don't worry about hell for myself but as an incentive to talk about the Good News (salvation) to others. It's trying to save others from hell. The focus is on Jesus not scaring people with hell though in a true conversion a person will acknowledge their path was leading them in that direction. The reality of sin does make the reality of Hell become real to a non Christian.
Heaven and Hell are completely immoral systems and show how Christianity completely contradicts itself.
On the one hand Christians claim that Yahweh doesn't reveal himself so as to not interfere with our free will.
On the other hand he threatens us with eternal torture if we don't worship him.
There are many verses in the Scriptures which clearly indicate that Yahweh deliberately created some people destined for Hell. Thus making Yahweh an immoral and unethical monster.
According to Christianity:
No matter how wicked and depraved a person is, if they accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour they get to go to Heaven.
No matter how good and innocent a person is, if they don't believe in Jesus they go to eternal torture and suffering.
Jesus literally contradicts you. He clearly taught that the rewards of Heaven were a motivation for doing good and loving Yahweh. Typical of a Christian to say things that their Bible does not say and which contradicts it.
You do know that according to the Scriptures that no liar has a place in Heaven. So, if you are right then maybe you should knock it off with the lies.
Edit. If Yahweh had all the Omni characteristics that Christians claim he has then he could have simply created those he knew would love him in paradise and not made those who wouldn't love him.
There is nothing inherently self-contradictory in that. Thus making me superior to Yahweh.
carrot and stick! you said it.
@@bookmouse2719 if you wish to reply with a statement which reflects your inner dialogue but gives little for the poster to respond to than it isn't helpful.
When I think of carrot 🥕 and stick I'm talking about behaviour modification from an outside source. Manipulation to get their way and ultimately for someone else's benefit. You go to university for perceived benefit and to avoid failure than you find out your drop out friend works in a trade, has no student loans, and just bought a house. Your have a worthless degree, are jobless, and owe 80 k in debt.
The carrot benefits can be a massive lie/unreal/imaginary/ or exaggeration and the stick consequences can be non existent or exaggerated. Huge lies underlie our education system with its carrot and stick approach.
So I totally agree a carrot stick approach doesn't work in the long term in motivating people especially when it's all smoke and mirrors - mostly non existent rewards and little to no consequence.
If you don't believe in Hell it doesn't scare you (you get to go too better parties in hell - type jokes). If you don't believe in Heaven it doesn't motivate you and you may even hate the idea because you can't do anything you want. The so called heaven and hell carrot stick just doesn't work anyway. If your a Christian and your faith is based on the carrot and stick mentality then you eventually become an atheist.
The concepts of heaven and hell is just a reality of acceptance G-d's forgiveness or the consequences of rejecting him. For a devote knowledgable Christian - they are both real. The motivation isn't either though but the realization that G-d has made Himself know in your life in a unmistakable way (in Christian jargon Born again) and you need and want His forgiveness and relationship. Hell has no power over a believer but might motivate them to spread the good news (the gospel). The benefit for a believer is relationship with G-d now rather than Heaven itself. No one sits in church and contemplates the benefits of heaven in terms an atheist would understand - worship/service/sacrifice.
@@victorjvanderwoude3102 Thank you for your thoughtful answer...I personally try to do my best according to my faith, G-d is always waiting patiently. G-d is not a man that He will change His mind. Material wealth does not always bring happiness, extreme poverty doesn't either...modern universities indoctrinate evil in their teachings. Sometimes trade schools are far superior as they teach something useful.
@@bookmouse2719 Sounds like sarcasm. Trade school verses university was an example not a point. Otherwise a good summary.
In the Christian faith, G-d is a specific being so I hope your not generalizing the term to fit some fuzzy spiritual other or believe every "god" claim is equally valid.
The fear, Jesus said he is the only way to God! If your deny him ,he will also deny us, now the new testament also saids to pray in his name , ask and you shall receive! So people pray to God in the name of Jesus! Yet his name was supposed to be "Immanuel " now the threat of going to hell if you don't believe in the trinity? And if you pray to God it must be according to the will of Jesus, cause they teach Jesus fulfilled the laws, so now if you obey the laws its hell ? What? If you obey God and seek a life of obedience to God, and worship God, then you will be judged in hell or to hell for disrespecting the son of God ,Jesus the holy Christ? Now in truth the new testament Jesus obeyed the laws, so to seek to be like him is to obey the commandments from God! Yet even if you love God and love how perfect his laws and holy commandments are, since the only way to God is through Jesus crucified and his assencion? So what does a person do? If you trust in God, then your trust his bible ? But if your trust his bible then the old testament and news testament contradicts each other! Example Genesis 1:1 in the beginning God created heaven and earth! But the news testament saids all things were made through and for Jesus? So now they teach Jesus is to be worshiped and we must go through Jesus ? It's a never ending cycle of confusion and doubt? And God will not hear prayers unless you pray with faith?...now in death it's to late to repent! On earth and during our life we are to repent, so I was born into the catholic church and a catholic family, in order for me to seek God I had to deny everything or just about everything in the catholic church! ...when my parents sent me to first communion ,I was always I. Trouble! I only wanted to pray to God and only wanted to worship God! Yet by doing so , I suffered! I was alone! Sick! Young! I figured I had my youth and before I got any older I wanted to repent! But to repent in the catholic church Is to call priest "father " and to go to confession, and say hail Mary's and aposlte creed or prayers to saint's? So their we go into the circle of confusion and sin! So was I to become arrogant , and not listen or obey family elders or church leaders that went to the pope to catholic church. Leaders?...I as a child always would cry to God, and would desire to be Hebrew or Jewish! To be able to learn his holy commandments and learn his holy days and celebrate them! Yet ...its not righteous to leave family and church! And once again God knew what family and church I was born to! ...so Christians claimed to know the bible, and claim to have a personal relationship with God, through Jesus! Now here we go again, seeing the sins of their doctrine, and since I was a child, who was I to tell elders to repent! So in youth a person has the energy and passion to seek truth and to pray to God for guidance and protection! And time passes , and passes , and as age creeps in, and knowledge creeps in , and prayers are not heard, it appears of course if God is for you then your blessed if God is against you no man could help you! But what if a man trusts in God with faith that God is righteous and above the knowledge of man! Why then does it appear if a man seeks a life of obedience to God through his holy commandments, then why dies death, shame, sickness, doubt confusion, so many sins and obstacles of this generation? Worst then the days of the tower of babbel! How? Space race and technology and rockets sent to the heavens! And Israel the chosen nation of God is in the mix with nations who have nuclear-biological-chemical weapons, rockets and space race! Some nations even believe aliens and going to another planet! And science and how many hospitals have how many doctors and nurses that have xrays ,tv, radio, technology that the bible saids is evil! Even in the usa they give freedom to have Satan have churches! They make movies, tv and radios and movies about the devil and monsters! How many know holloween? So what can a person do to worship God! To seek to please God! If your trust God punished those during the days of the tower of babbel, and sodom and Gomorah, then how many will be judged that live in this generation?...but they preach "rapture " two were raptured Enoch and Elijah! What if they lived in a nation that went to the moon? That sent rockets to heaven? That sent messages from space race back to earth , and from earth back to the heavens? Or space race? Who in the holy bible lived in a generation when Facebook or Twitter and world wide conversations were taking place,? Who in the old testament lived in the days where God would not answer prayers? God loved those he allowed to see and hear him! GOD loves the Hebrew nation and those whom he gave the commandments to! When was the last time a person could pray to God and God answer? When was the last time God healed? ...we need to repent! But we need a leader or people to ask God to open his heart ,to forgive those who call upon him! To help those who trust in the love ,loyalty , and righteousness from the heart of God! We need someone with the courage to ask God to provide for us ans help us! ....please keep trying and please don't give up on the love God can reveal! Amen!
Too much homework! Couldn’t be bothered
The Jewish books( Moses laws and others) are meant for Jews only, not applicable even to children of Esau. So, is God the God of Jews only? Then who created rest of the mankind?
noah wasn’t jewish. adam wasn’t jewish. abraham wasn’t jewish.. until he became “the first jew”
God is the God of everyone and everything
Jews were chosen for a specific mission which involves serving the world.
@@BiigFigJ Jews are those who don't obey Moses's laws, just boast about Moses's law. And Most of the people claiming to be Jews are not Jews. Do you follow Moses's laws?
@@abbalives7168 read Isaiah 10:22-23. A remnant only will be spared from God's wrath.
@@SonOfChrist777 we read all of isaiah. Always have. Our book Jewish prophet speaking to our people
Salvation is doctrine in the OT. The Jews looked forward to the Messiah. God is the same always.
Christians didn't invent new ideas, they all have their origins in the OT. There's an after life in the OT, one for punishment and one for the good guys. Jesus telling us this is true isn't a new idea. Jesus saying the Sabbath is made for man isn't a new idea. It is right there in the OT. Jesus saying the Messiah must suffer and die isn't a new idea, it is in the OT. If we are going to apply a process for Israel returning to the promised land twice than we must be consistent and make the same application to the Messiah. Jesus and Israel are both in process of fulfilling the prophecies.
Notice all you did was assert your views, but you didn't cite books of the Tanakh to support the view. Anyone can assert "I'm right, actually," but it's harder to back it up.
@@captainpandabear1422
I did give my views, if you disagree maybe you could give a citation in verse as to why.
Or do you really want me to list all the verses that talk about salvation in the OT.
@@solonkazos1379
If you could list even one clear, unambiguous text from the Hebrew Bible that gives a traditional, Christian view of salvation and the afterlife that'd be real nice, yeah. Let's start there.
@@captainpandabear1422
We can start with Psalms 2:12
@@solonkazos1379
And what do the preceding verses make clear about who the "son" in question is? What does "kiss" the son mean? Where is vicarious atonement brought up?
So you are citing one isolated verse out of context and expect that to convince?
Through Christ, God gave us back the divine life mankind lost in its fall. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons, we experience up to this day.
To not see God in Christ.... is impossible.
"The Father and I are one!"
"If you see Me, you see the Father!"
"Don't you believe that the Father is IN Me?"
"ALL (!) AUTHORITY in heaven and earth has been given to Me!". (Only God has all authority).
At healing the paralytic: "Your sins have been forgiven you!" (Only God can forgive sins).
"I am THE (not a) light of the world"......: God.
"I have come to give you Zoë (=divine life) in abundance".... Only God can give Zoë life.
"I am from above, you are from beneath. You are from this world, I am not from this world".....
Etc, etc, etc,
When He explained these things, healed the sick, casted out demons, raised the dead, controlled nature for 3 years, they all worshipped Him as God/Messiah.... except for the critical scholars and farisees!
He NEVER said: "Don't worship Me, I am just a prophet!". The Jews wanted to stone Him because: "You claim to be God".
So Jesus is God manifesting in Human form. Period. Glad He did. So now we finally know the sayings and actions of God.
Next step.
To not see Jesus bringing the divine life of the ages back to you-manity.... is impossible.
"I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and give you explosive power to heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons, etc, etc"
"Follow Me, the miracles I do, you will do too"
"God is IN you"
"The Kingdom of God is IN you"
"He who meets you, meets Me".
"You and I are one"
"You will understand that the Father is IN Me and I am in you"
"See, I have given you power over all the forces of the enemy"
"I have come to give you Zoë (=divine life) in abundance!"
Etc, etc, etc.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons with His first 12+72 friends.
As i understood these things, i experienced healing miracles and the casting out of demons already thousands of times and many other true believers do too. Yay!
Conclusion of Paul after having revelation and healing all on Malta: "Jesus, the exact image of the invisible God. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily" and you have been made complete IN Him (the last Adam), who is the head of every principality and power".
John (who had seen, touched, heard Jesus and walked in the same power and love): "the invisible God manifested in human form, in Christ and now in us".
Thomas having revelation saying to Jesus: "My Lord and My God!". Jesus being God did NOT correct Him.
Etc, etc, etc.
His life totally proves He is God in human form. Begotten by the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God, healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature, raised from the dead, pouring out His Spirit for us to be indwelled by to be empowered to heal the sick and cast out demons, etc, etc, etc.
Way to much to degrade Him to "just a prophet".
So... Jesus is the manifestation of God in a human body.... "the Son" of God. He came to take the alienation away mankind got trapped in after the fall. He came to give us back the divine life Adam/mankind lost in its fall.
Because of this fall, a perfect Holy sacrifice had to be made. That is what God did in Christ! It shows His deep, pure, affectionate passion from Him to you/His creation, to restore you back to origin: Christlikeness. Walking in divine power and unselfish divine love.
Jesus walked flawless. Muhammed on the other hand....
Muhammed came after Jesus. He unfortunately never understood God's resolve for mankind's fall, wrote another story, called it the only truth, cutting of the real truth, leading millions astray from their godly identity in Christ. Heartbreaking.
But for those who take Jesus for who He is and ask to be filled by His godly Holy Spirit.....: divine life. Tangible presence of God, healings, demons running for cover, etc. Just as with His first 12+72 friends.
God will make you experience the full (godly) Life made possible through Holy Spirit.
So don't be afraid to leave islam. God can only be found in/through Jesus Christ.
Ask Him to fill you with His/God's Holy Spirit so He can guide you into truth and transform your life. You and God/Jesus are finally one again. He will open your eyes and give you Zoë (divine life). You will be growing into Him in all things. The life you see in Him and His first 12+72 friends.
I experience it since 25 years and so will you.
That's a lot of babbling and assertions.
So blasphemous
What happens to those who didn't get the opportunity to hear of Jesus? Like Natives of various lands that died before the white man ever showed up. Now I love Jesus and what he teaches, but I find Buddhist, Hindu, Taoist and various other religious/spiritual practices to teach the very same things. Jesus was the only difference in that he was made to be a great sacrifice out of Love.
He wasn't a sacrifice. It's forbidden and pagan. thousands of Jews were crucified. You are. a pagan - Christianity is made up by Paul -second rate fan fiction based on paganism with misquoted and mistranslated Hebrew added in.
According to the NT, they all go to hell. Don't worry though, based on the criteria set forth by Jesus' own words, nearly everyone is going to hell. It's only Paul and whoever wrote John that teach falsely that all that is required is to believe in Jesus. Jesus taught you have to give up everything you have and suffer as he did or you weren't getting in.