Where is the Source of the River Thames?

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  • The River Thames is London's lifeblood, and it's simply impossible to imagine the city without it.
    But where exactly is the source of the Thames? Where does it originate?
    The answer to that question has been the subject of debate for many centuries, and there are three main contenders for the crown- each of which we shall be exploring in this video, as we head deep into the beautiful Cotswolds...
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    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    02:21 Kemble Bridge
    05:36 Trewsbury Mead
    09:51 Seven Springs
    12:47 Ullenwood
    15:43 Outro
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    Links for this video:
    Tourist information for the Cotswolds
    www.cotswolds.com
    The Thames Head Inn
    www.thamesheadinn.co.uk/
    Leckhampton Hill information
    www.cheltenham.gov.uk/info/33...
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    Credits
    Images:
    Maps: Openstreetmap.org & the National Library of Scotland
    Thames Head Wharf historical image: Kemble & Ewen Parish Council
    Dry Trewsbury Mead: Google (Bite Me, via Google Streetview)
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    Music:
    Past the Edge Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensecreativecommons.org/licenses/b...
    Swans in Flight (Asher Fulero)
    Soul and Mind (E’s Jammy Jams)
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  • @spitfire1962
    @spitfire1962 Місяць тому +1350

    HP is the sauce of the Thames.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +86

      🤣

    • @BobTheBlue
      @BobTheBlue Місяць тому +43

      Boom boom.. thank you, I’m here all week!

    • @JP_TaVeryMuch
      @JP_TaVeryMuch Місяць тому +11

      Hi! Water level to start the flow of comedic comments. Fulsome praise sir.
      Now that I've got that off my chest, I'm hoping that you might answer a question of not some little importance to my sister and me.
      Is it perchance true that until recently the (manufactured in the Netherlands) HP sauce bottles rejoiced in a drawing of Big Ben (Tower ~ yes apologies, the Elizabeth Tower) swathed not in a swaddling cloth but a version of the blummin scaffolding?

    • @spitfire1962
      @spitfire1962 Місяць тому

      @@JP_TaVeryMuch yes it underwent a complete refurbishment and the bells were silent apart from important occasions.
      On 21 August 2017, Big Ben's chimes fell silent for four years to allow essential restoration work to be carried out on the tower. The decision to silence the bells was made to protect the hearing of the workers on the tower, and drew much criticism from senior MPs and Prime Minister Theresa May.[101] The striking and tolling of the bells for important occasions, such as New Year's Eve and Remembrance Sunday, was handled via an electric motor; and at least one of the four clock faces always remained visible during the restoration. Scaffolding was put up around the tower immediately after the bells were silenced. The cost of the project to the taxpayers and creditors was originally estimated to be roughly £29 million, but it more than doubled, to £69 million.[102]
      In February 2020, the renovations revealed that the Elizabeth Tower had sustained greater damage than previously thought from the May 1941 bombing raid that destroyed the adjacent House of Commons. Other costly discoveries included asbestos in the belfry, the "extensive" use of lead paint, broken glass on the clock dials, and serious deterioration to the tower's intricate stone carvings due to air pollution. The cost of addressing these problems was estimated at £18.6 million, bringing the total budget for restoring the Elizabeth Tower to nearly £80 million.[103]
      The 2,567 cast-iron roof tiles were removed and refurbished, and a lift was installed to make access easier, along with a basic toilet facility with running water, for the first time in the tower itself. The Ayrton Light at the top of the tower, which is lit when Parliament is sitting, was also fully dismantled and restored along with the other lights in the Belfry, being replaced with low-energy LEDs.[104] One of the most visible changes to the tower has been the restoration of the clock-face framework to its original colour of Prussian blue, used when the tower was first built in 1859, with the black paint that was used to cover up the soot-stained dial frames having been stripped away. The clock faces were regilded, and the shields of St George repainted in their original red and white colours. The 1,296 pieces of glass that make up the clock faces have also been removed and replaced.[105][106]
      In December 2021, after four years of renovations and restoration, the tower emerged from behind its scaffolding in time for the ringing in of the new year.[107] In April 2022, the gantry supporting the scaffolding was removed.[108]

    • @JP_TaVeryMuch
      @JP_TaVeryMuch Місяць тому +6

      @@spitfire1962 No, on special edition bottles!

  • @richardhumphreys8662
    @richardhumphreys8662 Місяць тому +1026

    About sixty years ago, Michael Bentine in his show 'It's a Square World', went in search of the source of the Thames and traced it to a dripping tap somewhere in the Cotswolds. He turned the tap off and the river completely dried up with views of the empty river by the Palace of Westminster and Tower Bridge.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +151

      Ha ha! Yes, I’ve heard about this sketch, not sure if a clip is available though?

    • @OldWines
      @OldWines Місяць тому +63

      A mudlarker's dream...

    • @TishaHayes
      @TishaHayes Місяць тому +18

      Quite cheeky

    • @RichXZ
      @RichXZ Місяць тому +13

      Yes I also do remember watching it's a square world but I must have been quite young, can't remember details; great programme though

    • @Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n
      @Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n Місяць тому +4

      😂😂😂😂

  • @chrischamberlaine4160
    @chrischamberlaine4160 Місяць тому +408

    I was given a rowing boat as a gift in 1991 and to test it I rowed the Thames - source to Greenwich - solo. So I made the pilgimage across the meadows behind the Thames Head pub and took a selfie (film camera in those days) sitting beside the stone. I still have a replica of the Old Father Thames statue in my garden. As a yacht designer I then created a new type of long distance recreational sculling boat and over the next couple of years rowed the Douro, Guadiana, Mondego, Tagus, Gironde and the Loire. All source to tidal. Although I never went back to the Thames source (one can start rowing a little to the west of Lechlade where the Coln joins in) - I went on the row the Thames two more times. In '93 I 'won' the Great River Race solo at the age of 50 in another of my own designs. Still scull every day at the age of 80. Rivers are inspiring historical adventures. The oldest 'motorways'. Great video - takes me back - thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +34

      Wow! What an adventure!

    • @rjjcms1
      @rjjcms1 Місяць тому +6

      Wonderful. I wondered where the earliest boat-navigable bit was.

    • @willkerslake8820
      @willkerslake8820 Місяць тому +13

      Wow, sounds as though you've had a great life, good on you.👍

    • @chrischamberlaine4160
      @chrischamberlaine4160 Місяць тому +15

      @@willkerslake8820 Still having a great life thank you. Row most days in the bay of Lagos and the yacht is back in the water next month. 80. Keeo doing it until you can't do it is the motto - and moderation in everything.

    • @Yodayo18
      @Yodayo18 Місяць тому +3

      Dang an adventure of that kind is what i always wanted to experience, my our rivers here are full of garbage ;-;

  • @mikenorth6088
    @mikenorth6088 Місяць тому +273

    20 plus years ago I walked, what I was led to believe at that time, the length of the Thames from Trewsbury Mead to the Thames Barrier. From what you have just said - I’ve got to do it again!!!! 😂

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +28

      Ha ha! Better get your boots on Mike 🤣 Nice comment, cheers 😉

    • @user-vf4pu8qp9d
      @user-vf4pu8qp9d Місяць тому +5

      Dont forget your water bottle.

  • @NondescriptMammal
    @NondescriptMammal 26 днів тому +20

    I'm from the U.S. and have never been to England, but this was still very pleasant to watch. I have lived near the Mississippi R. most of my life, far enough north to have visited its headwaters a number of times, and there's something special about seeing a great river like this, in places where it is still clear and pristine and unsullied by overuse.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  26 днів тому +4

      Lovely comment, thank you. I'm lucky enough to have seen the Mississippi... .to see its headwaters would be incredible, such a mighty river.

    • @NondescriptMammal
      @NondescriptMammal 25 днів тому +1

      @@Robslondon The whole upper Mississippi in northern Minnesota is a beautiful river in a gorgeous, mostly wooded setting. Its source at Lake Itasca is part of a very old and lovely state park, with huge older growth pine trees, definitely worth a visit if one gets the chance. It's a shallow stream where it leaves the lake, and a line of small boulders is in place such that you can walk across it, just to say you did... but you can literally wade across it anywhere in its first few miles, without it being even up to your knees in depth.
      As it winds its way toward the Twin Cities, it enters and leaves several of the more than 11,000 natural lakes that Minnesota is famous for. There are few places in the world that can match northern Minnesota for its abundance of fresh water... there are several places up north where you literally have a hundred or more lakes within a twenty mile radius.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  25 днів тому +1

      @@NondescriptMammal Wow! Lovely :-) America is blessed with some incredible natural beauty.

    • @brettmuir5679
      @brettmuir5679 7 днів тому +2

      As a fellow North American, I whole heartedly concur. To straddle the Contental Divide and witness a place so divergent is awe inspiring if one can comprehend the vastness of Continents and their drainages into the far greater oceans.
      To be astride the headwaters of two oceans makes me want to pee in each as one man standing in one place. It is possible and must be done...if for nothing else but to say I pissed in the Missiippii and the Columbia in one go

    • @leofisher407
      @leofisher407 4 дні тому +1

      @@Robslondon As a Minnesotan, I cannot recommend the headwaters enough. It's a great state park, and there's plenty of beautiful scenery there. Another similar place to visit here is the traverse gap, where nothing but a 2 meter dike separates water that flows into the Arctic ocean from that that flows into the Gulf of Mexico. Cheers from Minnesota!

  • @SteveMikre44
    @SteveMikre44 Місяць тому +162

    All three locations are beautiful and every effort should be made to keep them that way for future generations...

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +8

      Well said.

    • @intractablemaskvpmGy
      @intractablemaskvpmGy Місяць тому +10

      I think we have our answer here: all three of them

    • @matasa7463
      @matasa7463 21 день тому +3

      ​@@intractablemaskvpmGy Yup, watersheds form rivers, and both surface runoff and groundwater flow contribute to the raging river. All of the tributaries are important sources for the river.

    • @seerstone8982
      @seerstone8982 День тому

      With the hoards of migrants moving to the U.K. might need to place housing tenements there?

  • @thewrecker3140
    @thewrecker3140 Місяць тому +254

    What a beautiful, enchanting and absorbing documentary. First class as always Rob.

  • @traveller2810
    @traveller2810 День тому +2

    As an international student here in England, it’s a great pleasure to learn about the history of this remarkable country. Thank you!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  День тому +1

      Such a lovely comment, thank you! And it’s nice to have you here.

  • @jonathanpiasio4311
    @jonathanpiasio4311 Місяць тому +118

    Rob, this absolutely did not disappoint. It seems to me the most obvious answer to this age old question is the River Thames has not one single source but three. Your effort was very informative and highly appreciated. Thanks so much for the work you do.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +7

      Lovely comment Jonathan, thank you!

    • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
      @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Місяць тому +4

      I am in agreement. This is a similar situation to the Amazon and Nile rivers.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Місяць тому +4

      And many others, if not most or all rivers!

    • @muzikizfun
      @muzikizfun Місяць тому +4

      The general area drainage basin can be considered the source since even the sources are fed by them.

    • @SpiralSniperz
      @SpiralSniperz 19 днів тому

      The source is the one furthest away

  • @jilllawton8556
    @jilllawton8556 Місяць тому +34

    55 years ago I went to the alledged source in the Cotswolds. It was a tiny trickle but I have never forgotten this.

  • @Rachel-bo3qg
    @Rachel-bo3qg Місяць тому +66

    From its humble beginnings as a tiny trickle to its majestic flow through London. Wonderfully relaxing and informative video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +7

      Thank you Rachel ☺️

    • @RuminatingWizard
      @RuminatingWizard Місяць тому +2

      Majestic meaning polluted and full of bodies.

    • @Rachel-bo3qg
      @Rachel-bo3qg Місяць тому +2

      @@RuminatingWizard Full of bodies ? Did you put them there ?

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 9 днів тому

      @@Rachel-bo3qg Blackfriars Bridge.

  • @tiitulitii
    @tiitulitii Місяць тому +7

    How fresh and clean the Thames would be without so many people around!

  • @farmerpete6274
    @farmerpete6274 Місяць тому +46

    According to some old mid-Victorian era photographs I have, the source of the Thames is Seven Springs. However given that 7 springs emerge at this spot, it follows that the source is further away... prossibly in Wales! And thanks for taking the time to show this to us all.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +14

      Wales! Now that’s worth another trip to inspect! 😄

    • @amitrana1988
      @amitrana1988 Місяць тому +4

      @@Robslondon Now I'll be waiting for the notification to pop on my mobile informing me of that video whenever you upload it...but do upload it. 🙂

    • @steinarlaumann3840
      @steinarlaumann3840 19 днів тому +2

      Yes, now that you mention it I remember that small stream flowing up the enscarpment from Wales crossing the Severn river in an old stone pipe ofcourse made by an old bearded man with a famous son.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus Місяць тому +22

    Wonderful video!
    Given that the Thames never dries up, it logically follows that it must have a source which never dries up either.
    That rules out Trewsbury Mead because that does dry up in the summer (but the Thames still flows).
    Therefore, the true source is likely to be one or both of the others.
    Seven Springs seems most likely.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +3

      Good point and thank you :-)

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 9 днів тому +1

      During the very dry Summer of 1976 it was reported that the Thames had actually stopped flowing on one occasion.

  • @skiracer
    @skiracer Місяць тому +41

    Hello from Colorado, I vote for the first really cute gurgling pool Trewsbury Mead as the source! Love the film!!

  • @damianharris2167
    @damianharris2167 Місяць тому +38

    Rob’s London on tour.
    Great video again. Look forward to more as always. 👍🏻

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +4

      Thanks so much Damian 😉

  • @old_toucs6283
    @old_toucs6283 Місяць тому +18

    Just down the road from my house. It isn't Trewsbury Mead. You'll be lucky to find any water there without a lot of heavy rain. Seven Springs is actually a small depression in the hillside with seven small springs that feed into a pool before flowing under the road. It's a lot more convincing. Never knew Ullenwood springs were a contender.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, I was lucky when I went to Trewsbury Mead 😉💦

    • @alanj3586
      @alanj3586 18 днів тому

      @@Robslondon when you mean lucky... um...

  • @Elderly-Marian-in-UK
    @Elderly-Marian-in-UK Місяць тому +15

    Thankyou for this. I'm born and bred in London and I've always wondered where the source of the Thames was. I'd say all three sources combined are the source, not just Shrewsbury Mead. The 3 sources feed Shrewsbury Mead, so that makes them the true sources equally. How fascinating. If I was 50 years younger I'd visit them all. But I'm too old now, I'd never cope with all the walking. Lol. So thankyou for bringing this lovely story to me. Xx

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +3

      Thank you for such a lovely comment Marian! Hope you felt close to the source when watching the video. Thanks again and stay well.

  • @carol7988
    @carol7988 Місяць тому +75

    Your presentation and research is wonderful. You hold my attention completely and I learn more from you than anyone. No waffling, interesting and informative, a massive Thank you.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +4

      I truly appreciate that Carol, thank you so much.

  • @hi2colin
    @hi2colin 4 дні тому +2

    I visited from Canada several years ago and had the opportunity to swim in the Thames up near Streatley, just upstream from Reading. Seeing this was lovely and made me miss that warm beautiful day.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  4 дні тому

      Oh wow! Lovely comment Colin, thanks for watching and hope you make it back here soon.

  • @nickgiles7568
    @nickgiles7568 Місяць тому +24

    I live near Cheltenham and have often visited all of these locations plus the Devil's Chimney many times. I think that, although Seven Springs has its die hard advocates for most Trewsbury Mead is the recognised source of the Thames. In recent years( save for 2024) the lack of rainfall has meant that it was nigh on impossible to find any water at Ullenwood.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +7

      Thanks so much Nick. Glad you said that about Ullenwood; I thought I was missing the spot!

  • @o.aldenproductions.9858
    @o.aldenproductions.9858 Місяць тому +6

    Thanks for sharing. I lived in England for a year when I was 20 years old.....now I'm 55 and I still miss it...❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Lovely comment, thank you.

  • @alexritchie4586
    @alexritchie4586 Місяць тому +26

    Your voice is so relaxing, and your videos are always so informative in a kind of whimsical way 😊 I've been looking into the source of the Thames myself due to my interest in the restoration of the Thames & Severn Canal, so this video is right up my street 😃 Thank you for another fantastic video 😁

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      Ah, thanks so much Alex! The old canal is worthy of a video in its own right 😉

  • @bryan3550
    @bryan3550 Місяць тому +12

    It strikes me that the Thames is a tributary of the Churn and they were a bit previous in naming Trewsbury as the source of the big river flowing through London..!
    Brilliant work, Rob! 🙃

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      Ah! Interesting perspective Bryan 😂 Cheers mate

  • @loisrossi841
    @loisrossi841 16 днів тому +5

    Everything about the history of London continues to fascinate. Thank you.

  • @jsa-z1722
    @jsa-z1722 Місяць тому +18

    Lovely footage, gorgeous water sounds, pleasant piano music, informative words. Thank you!

  • @mickontherock1
    @mickontherock1 Місяць тому +11

    As a Proud Londoner it’s something I’ve occasionally pondered on. As always Rob a lovely beautifully shot and interesting video. Every you tuber should watch your videos to learn how to do it properly. Well done and thank you again. Best wishes, Mick

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      That means a lot to me Mick, thank you. Have a good weekend.

  • @Sumabus
    @Sumabus Місяць тому +6

    I was randomly thinking about this question this morning. The algorithm must have heard my thoughts.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      It can definitely read your mind!! 🧙‍♂️

  • @carmend.1924
    @carmend.1924 Місяць тому +18

    👋🏻from Denver Colorado! What a great video! Came upon your channel, and I so enjoyed your narration and all the lovely spots you visited, that I subscribed. Love the history of your wonderful country, and I visit often, to explore new spots, but never thought of the actual source of the mighty River Thames. Fantastic information and filming. If I’m brave enough to drive on the left side this year, I’ll try to visit those spots. Thank you for sharing this lovely video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +6

      Such a lovely comment, thank you! It’s good to have you here.
      I drove in the USA last year, and although it’s a bit odd on the other side on road you’re used to, it doesn’t take too long to adapt- You’ll be fine driving in the UK; go for it! 😉🇺🇸

  • @dmacpher
    @dmacpher Місяць тому +8

    Don’t know how I got here, but this was very enjoyable! Hello from Canada 😂

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Hi, glad to have you here! 🇨🇦

  • @cattymajiv
    @cattymajiv Місяць тому +36

    You music and it's volume are perfect! Why can't others learn about subtlety? It was so lovely! ❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +4

      That means a lot to me catty, thank you.

    • @patjackson8649
      @patjackson8649 Місяць тому +2

      Agree, the gentle piano was absolutely perfect with this

  • @LordVarkson
    @LordVarkson Місяць тому +15

    Crazy to think that one bloke with a truck full of dirt could cause the entire Thames to dry up in a matter of weeks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      🤣

    • @rmar127
      @rmar127 Місяць тому +2

      You dont seriously believe that right. Surely you taking the piss

    • @Michael-sb8jf
      @Michael-sb8jf Місяць тому +3

      ​@@rmar127
      Don't worry once he's done there it's off to the Mississippi and Niles sources

    • @Sparty-pi3jq
      @Sparty-pi3jq Місяць тому

      ​@@Michael-sb8jf
      The headwaters of the "Mighty" Mississippi River (way up in Minnesota) is definitely a worthwhile visit!

  • @geoffreylee5199
    @geoffreylee5199 Місяць тому +88

    In the United States, the Mississippi River starts in Minnesota, the Ohio is an eastern branch, and the Missouri a western branch. That western branch, the Missouri, is longer than the Mississippi River itself. The branches of the Thames are the same thing as the Mississippi branches.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +5

      Crazy! 😬

    • @DogsRNice
      @DogsRNice Місяць тому

      Even looking for the sources of tributaries can be hard
      Looking on Google maps for the source of the Olentangy River which is a tributary of the Scioto River (which is a tributary of the Ohio River) lead me to a field where there's about 5 small streams that converge together
      The Scioto itself seems a bit easier, it just emerges from some woods so there's probably a spring in there

    • @anzebeton1869
      @anzebeton1869 Місяць тому +18

      My favorite fact about the Mississippi is that you can walk from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific, without touching dry land. Because at parting of the waters in Wyoming, a creek diverges and one flows towards west into the Pacific and the other goes east until it feeds into the Mississippi

    • @stevemiller1517
      @stevemiller1517 Місяць тому +3

      The green river in Utah is longer that the Colorado River if measured from it's source in wyoming.

    • @richardthomas5362
      @richardthomas5362 28 днів тому +3

      The Missouri River, like you said, is longer than the Mississippi itself, especially past St Louis. However, the main flow of water comes in around Cairo, Il, from the Ohio river. If you follow the greatest water flow, then the Mississippi should go to the Ohio river, then the Allegheny river at Pittsburgh, all the way into the mountains to the east. If you go by length, then the Mississippi should turn west at St Louis and follow the Missouri river to its source.

  • @davehustwayte689
    @davehustwayte689 Місяць тому +15

    Hi Rob, Hope you are well, Thank you for another fantastic video, Great subject, Thank you

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      That’s so kind of you Dave, thank you! Much appreciated. I’m good thanks, hope you are too. Thanks again 😉

  • @damienmcgonnell6032
    @damienmcgonnell6032 26 днів тому +2

    Seeing these deep, swirling waters against a cloudy, lush background reminds me to a surprising degree of the rivers and creeks here in Upstate New York in the spring. I like to imagine all the people who have used a particular waterway to fish, camp, or navigate the landscape over thousands of years.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  26 днів тому

      I know what you mean- I was in Upstate New York last October; beautiful, beautiful place 😄

  • @ianpunter4486
    @ianpunter4486 Місяць тому +23

    It looks so drinkable!!! And makes an expat, (22 years), SO homesick. Thanks for the video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +4

      Ah, thanks Ian 😉

    • @rjjcms1
      @rjjcms1 Місяць тому +5

      The one part of it I'm tempted to drink from.

    • @vespurrs
      @vespurrs Місяць тому +4

      I was thinking the same thing - I'd love a little sip!

    • @strategystuff5080
      @strategystuff5080 9 днів тому

      immigrant*

    • @ianpunter4486
      @ianpunter4486 9 днів тому +1

      @@strategystuff5080 ???

  • @paulwilson7234
    @paulwilson7234 Місяць тому +17

    Another excellent Sunday evening video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      Much appreciated Paul, thank you

  • @Rishi-mo6pg
    @Rishi-mo6pg 17 днів тому +3

    This documentary leaves me wanting more. It explores some tributaries or streams of the Thames, illustrating their role in the river's life, but it doesn't dig into the source points of these streams. This leaves the origins of the Thames' water a bit mysterious.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  17 днів тому

      Sorry Rishi ;-)

    • @FairbrookWingates
      @FairbrookWingates 6 днів тому

      Given that each potential source area speaks of springs, wouldn't the water source be from underground at those points? Spring birthed and fed by rainwater on route to London.

  • @christopherbritton293
    @christopherbritton293 Місяць тому +3

    As a born Londoner and later long-time resident of Gloucestershire I always hold the Thames in special affection. Both my parents' families settled in London, which as you point out would not be there without the river.
    I went in search of the source of the Thames (Trewsbury Mead) not long after retirement with a friend. Unthinkingly we went in July - and there was water to be seen for 2 or 3 miles along the course! We had lunch in the Thames Head Inn and were advised to return in winter - which we did, and the mead was then pretty full! Object achieved!
    Many thanks for some wonderul memories.

    • @christopherbritton293
      @christopherbritton293 Місяць тому +2

      Correction: NO water to be seen in July!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Wonderful comment Chris, thank you- enjoyed reading that 😉

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Місяць тому +1

      @@christopherbritton293 It is actually better to correct the original text than it is to add a comment about it afterwards. Your meaning would be so much clearer that way. A writer can't know what the readers' experience is, because the writer already knows what they mean. I don't say this intending to criticise, but just to be helpful. ✌🏼

  • @egoborder3203
    @egoborder3203 Місяць тому +7

    thanks for the lovely tour!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      It's a pleasure- thanks for watching!

  • @annereidy7981
    @annereidy7981 Місяць тому +6

    Who would have thought that such a huge and important river could have such a contested source? Personally, I am inclined to think all have equal right to the title. Sitting on the fence isn't really cutting it I know but there you go! Fascinating as usual Rob, thank you.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks so much Anne…. You and I are both very much of the same mindset! 😉

  • @nelliemelba4967
    @nelliemelba4967 Місяць тому +6

    Lovely video, Rob! I think all the sources should be counted as such, for such an immense river, and it's nice to see the actual springs from so much rain.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Couldn’t agree more Nellie! Lovely comment, thank you ☺️

  • @BenRush
    @BenRush 5 днів тому +2

    Beautiful footage. I'm a yank but spent years over there. I miss it dearly and need to get back.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  5 днів тому +1

      Thanks so much Ben. Hope you make it back here soon 🇺🇸🇬🇧

    • @BenRush
      @BenRush 5 днів тому +1

      @@Robslondon I absolutely intend to. You have a beautiful country. Subscribed!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  5 днів тому

      @@BenRush Good to have you here Ben. Stay well my friend.

  • @TheZINGularity
    @TheZINGularity Місяць тому +5

    What a pleasant and relaxing video to be with your voice, writing, topic combined with the music and scenery. It kinda pulls you out of the quagmire of modern internet fighting and pointless drama. Thank you kindly & made sure to subscribe

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      That means an incredible amount to me; thank you much. It's kind comments like yours which keep me going! Thanks again- it's great to have you here :-)

  • @user-if7qn8ir1b
    @user-if7qn8ir1b Місяць тому +3

    I didn't know England has beautiful country side places ❤! Thank you for showing these amazing places.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      It’s a pleasure! Thank you for watching ☺️

    • @doommonger7784
      @doommonger7784 Місяць тому +1

      What! did you think it was all covered in concrete.

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 19 днів тому

      @@doommonger7784 Well the way it is going,it soon will be.

  • @djtraxxehv1058
    @djtraxxehv1058 Місяць тому +9

    Difficult, very difficult , but apart from that, lovely spots to be. Thank you for the nice video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +3

      Much appreciated; thank you for watching.

    • @ThePixel1983
      @ThePixel1983 Місяць тому

      I think having water all year round should be a must for a "real" source of the Thames.

  • @sharonleong7120
    @sharonleong7120 Місяць тому +14

    Great and interesting sharing. I love it as always. Keep up the good work. Thank you Robert. 👍👍👍😍😍😍

  • @SpikeLawrence
    @SpikeLawrence 5 днів тому +2

    Superb video - well researched, well paced, informative, great videography, and very relaxing. Thank you!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  5 днів тому

      I really do appreciate your kind words Spike, thank you! Stay well my friend.

  • @roberttaylor6295
    @roberttaylor6295 Місяць тому +6

    Fascinating! As I found about with the the River Eden and the several streams and springs claiming to be the source, I think like those for the Thames, they all count. A lot of lovely countryside captured by great photography. Thanks again, Rob,
    Rob

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much Rob! And yes, I’m happy to go with more than one source 😉

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 Місяць тому +5

    Beautiful, cold, crystal-clear springs! another wonderful video - many thanks for all you do to educate us!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      It's a pleasure as always William, thank you for watching!

  • @andyh444
    @andyh444 Місяць тому +5

    What a wonderful video. Informative, concise and capturing the magic of the area.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you so much Andy, lovely comment.

  • @leomarkaable1
    @leomarkaable1 Місяць тому +3

    Invite all my English friends to visit Lake Itasca in Minnesota. There, you can walk across the Mississippi as that lake is its source. About 10 feet wide, with a walkable rock bridge. Sometimes there is a Chippewa Indian, in full garb, standing there to greet you. I saw a Hindu woman there with her children enjoying themselves.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Wow..... would love to see that- I've seen the Mississippi at New Orleans; truly iconic river

  • @aureaphilos
    @aureaphilos Місяць тому +8

    What a wonderful adventure, Rob! There truly are some idyllic locations across England. As a former mapmaker, I would select Seven Springs as the source, because of its perennial water flow. A seasonal spring does not a river make; and the two other contenders would be mapped as dashed 'intermittent' flows, at best. Imagine the public outrage when the new maps showed the Thames as an intermittent water course! Another argument could be made that the highest point around the edge of the Thames's drainage watershed, as water only flows downhill due to gravity; any rain that falls on that summit is likely to ultimately reach the sea via the Thames. So, Seven Springs gets my vote! Cheers, Rob, and thanks again!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks, great comment- and you make an excellent and well informed argument!

    • @2760ade
      @2760ade Місяць тому +3

      Your logic is spot on! You cannot have a river source that is dry for some of the year - as there would be no river for some of the year!! I know it's not quite that simple, but makes sense to me.

  • @matthewjburt6482
    @matthewjburt6482 Місяць тому +6

    What a perfect video. You covered the potential sources of The Thames with humour, beauty and your usual level of well-researched information. I personally am sticking with the official one, otherwise I've got to take a trip back up to The Cotswolds and do some more walking along The Churn!!! Could you do further videos on highlights of the many historical events that have occurred along the Thames?

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you for such a lovely comment Matthew, much appreciated. I’ll certainly have a think about another Thames specific video 😉

  • @veronicafullford1697
    @veronicafullford1697 Місяць тому +5

    What a wonderful video. Watching this I felt like I was really there with the cool, clear water bubbling up - I wanted to dip my hand in the water. Delightful and informative.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much Veronica :-) It really is quite an experience.

  • @Jsmith2024
    @Jsmith2024 Місяць тому +2

    What an enchanting tour! Thank you.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you! And thanks for watching

  • @2moneyhoney
    @2moneyhoney Місяць тому +3

    Lovely!Thank you from the U.S. I especially enjoy all of the border fences and gates which enable folks to walk 🚶‍♀️ around your country. This video of superb!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      I really appreciate that, thank you :-)

  • @tracyfryer8153
    @tracyfryer8153 Місяць тому +2

    Two, last weeks, on one Sunday but this was a most relaxing one. I feel the thames starts further west but each location is a good contender and each beautiful to see.
    Glad I watched this second to lighten the spirit. Thank you for exploring and recording your discoveries ❤️❤️❤️

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for such a lovely comment Tracy 😊

  • @mellissadalby1402
    @mellissadalby1402 Місяць тому +4

    OK, I've got Wellies on now.
    This video is far more interesting and entertaining than I expected it to be.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Ha ha! Thanks Melissa, glad you like it!

  • @rjb6165
    @rjb6165 Місяць тому +3

    Good evening Rob,
    I have just got to see this video and found it fascinating. As usual your research and presentation is top notch. I had never really thought about the source of the Thames before watching this so thanks for such an informative video as always. Keep up the good work and I look forward to your next London subject. I’m going to make time to look through my Times Atlas of London from the inspiration you provide.
    All the best.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you for such a lovely comment ☺️

  • @tomgirldouble3249
    @tomgirldouble3249 Місяць тому +4

    Wonderful informative video some beautiful scenery too😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you Tomgirl ☺️

  • @sparkyggreatmusic450
    @sparkyggreatmusic450 Місяць тому +2

    Wonderful video, glad I found you and subscribed. Love history and all this London information. Thank you Rob!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Much appreciated! Thanks; glad to have you here 😉

  • @nigelskelchy
    @nigelskelchy Місяць тому +2

    I love the level of detail and research you've put into this.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much Nigel 😄

  • @russelltyler4397
    @russelltyler4397 Місяць тому +5

    Great video Rob. more please of the springs,rivers and streams!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you Russell! Watch this space mate 😉

  • @goldhoney9401
    @goldhoney9401 Місяць тому +2

    Great video! It was very informative and also quite relaxing (especially after a long day of work). Thank you very much for making this video

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks so much goldhoney; it's a pleasure. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!

  • @bryangallagher4690
    @bryangallagher4690 Місяць тому +2

    Tremendously enjoyable, so many, many thanks! Background music just right! Very soothing together, with the delightful film shots! You are on my Subscribed list now!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      That means a lot to me Bryan, thank you so much! Wonderful to have you here my friend. Thanks again and stay well.

  • @Litlikuapangr
    @Litlikuapangr Місяць тому +2

    Relaxing, informative, great visuals and pacing. Subscribed!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank so much! Good to have you here!

  • @SeventhSwell
    @SeventhSwell Місяць тому +8

    Thanks for the fun and interesting video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +2

      A pleasure as always; thank you for watching 😊

  • @alexdavis1541
    @alexdavis1541 Місяць тому +3

    Great video. I drive past Ullenwood and Seven Springs several times a year. I had no idea about this. Thanks for enlightening me. I will stop and take a look next time.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      It's a pleasure Alex! Enjoy your visit ;-) Seven Springs in particular is lovely.

  • @sarahlouise7163
    @sarahlouise7163 Місяць тому +5

    your videos are always so relaxing, and here we have the added burbling of fresh water ☺

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you Sarahlouise! The Thames did a good job ;-) Filming it was a pleasure.

  • @jfruser
    @jfruser 27 днів тому +1

    What lovely countryside. Thank you for sharing.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  27 днів тому

      It's a pleasure, thank you for watching.

  • @janebaker966
    @janebaker966 Місяць тому +5

    Youve done some fantastic research in this beautiful and lovely film Rob. About two thirds through i got the sort of surprise that jolts you upright,ill explain later in this comment. First I suspect King Lud is really Lugh,a Celtic God. I saw that water source,Seven Springs in a tv show several years ago and i was convinced then and am,that it is the true source. Its much more mystical for a start. No way can the mighty Thames start in a muddy puddle. I used to live (47years) in the area where the Rev Dymmock was the vicar in the 1930s and through the Second World War. This area is called Hillfields and its a district within the bigger area of Fishponds in East Brustol. In the late 1980s I did a whole lot of local history research into Hillfields. Its the sort of "ordinary" place that has no history,except of course it does. Just not the ruined castles and public excutions sort. Im so interested to learn this about the Rev Dymmock. It fits with other things and as i dont want to get a UA-cam ban im not going to say any more.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Jane, very interesting comment! Believe it or not, I lived in Fishponds for a short time about 23 years ago 😉

    • @janebaker966
      @janebaker966 Місяць тому

      @@Robslondon Never!!!
      Small world. D'you remember Lodge Causeway,Cossham Hospital Clocktower or were you down near Eastville Park End. And Morrisons wouldve been Safeways then.

  • @RoadKing65
    @RoadKing65 Місяць тому +2

    From South Hampton, NY......Beautiful country side and loved the historical content of your video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      That's really kind of you to say RoadKing; thank you, and thanks for watching, much appreciated.

  • @markshrimpton3138
    @markshrimpton3138 Місяць тому +4

    I was born at Hampton Court very close indeed to The Thames so it’s a river close to my heart. I guess it has several contributing sources.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Mark. Love Hampton Court 😉

    • @kevinrayner5812
      @kevinrayner5812 Місяць тому

      I find it interesting that the water for the ornamental river at Hampton Court comes from the River Colne that is a few hundred yards from my house in Watford. It is diverted off of the Colne near Heathrow and then through Feltham. So the water can take two different routes to find its way into the Thames.

  • @coraliemoller3896
    @coraliemoller3896 Місяць тому +2

    I’m in Sydney, Australia. Loved the video as I have tried to trace the source of the Thames River on Google Maps but could not work it out. I was very surprised at the length of the river. My interest began with Inspector Morse and the various locations mentioned in the books and the TV series, which I enjoyed so much.
    I would love to see floating flowers in different colours released at the various potential sources to see which ones end up at the confluence that becomes the identifiable Thames.
    Even so, the fact that the various springs pop up from unidentified pools underground may mean the real source is yet to be found.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Wonderful, wonderful comment Coralie, thank you! Enjoyed reading that. Hope things are good Down Under ;-)

  • @tylore69
    @tylore69 Місяць тому +2

    This video is so relaxing and informative it should be shown in schools cause this is a lovely documentary

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      That's so kind of you to say tylore, thank you!

  • @MrJohn768
    @MrJohn768 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you so much for this meticulously researched and produced work !! Your commentary and photography are perfect. Now I need to go and re-read The Tide River by Charles Kingsley because it will fit so well👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Lovely comment, thank you so much 😊

  • @suecox2308
    @suecox2308 Місяць тому +2

    This was a lovely, engaging documentary video. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Much appreciated Sue, thank you 🤩

  • @paulinegeorge289
    @paulinegeorge289 Місяць тому +2

    Nice scenery.

  • @Northumbria-jl4bp
    @Northumbria-jl4bp Місяць тому +2

    What a very interesting and delightful video. Compliments.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      That's very kind of you to say; many thanks indeed.

  • @gdok6088
    @gdok6088 Місяць тому +3

    Very interesting, well presented content and beautifully narrated with your expressive, calming voice and delightful background music. Excellent video - thank you.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      That means a great deal to me; thank you so much. Really appreciate the kind words.

    • @gdok6088
      @gdok6088 Місяць тому +1

      @@Robslondon My pleasure. Best wishes for the further growth and success of your channel. I have, of course, subscribed :)

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      @@gdok6088 Thanks so much- good to have you here ;-)

  • @IapetusStag
    @IapetusStag Місяць тому +3

    Looks clean. Such an amazing historic river and now it's even more fascinating for me thanks to how you reminded me that huge rivers have tiny, humble begins somewhere upstream.
    I learned about the Thames when I played Tomb Raider 3 as a kid last 1999.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Lovely comment, thank you ☺️

  • @Narnendil
    @Narnendil Місяць тому +1

    Lovely video! I especially appreciate all the beautiful nature shots, including the the ones of flowers. It really elevates the video to include the flowers even when you're talking about water! :)

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much- and thanks for noticing 😉 Much appreciated

  • @brettpalfrey4665
    @brettpalfrey4665 Місяць тому +2

    I visited Trewsbury Mead in January 2008..it had a lot more water at the source than your video showed.i walked a few hundred metres down river from there, so I can say I have walked on the Thames!, Its the true source to me...( and the beer in the Thames Head Inn wasn't bad either!)

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Great comment Brett, thanks 😉

  • @margaretWestminster
    @margaretWestminster Місяць тому +2

    This is very interesting.
    I looked at the titles of some of your other videos and i will enjoy them very much. Thank you for your information.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you Margaret, hope you enjoy them

  • @nilo70
    @nilo70 Місяць тому +3

    Dear Rob ,
    Thank you so very much for making this wonderful episode ! It was informative and entertaining as well as a perfect way to start my morning. I am happy to say I try hard to never miss them.
    Cheers From California 😎

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much Nilo! It’s quite something to imagine someone watching my videos on a sunny Californian morning! 😄🇺🇸 Thanks again my friend and stay well.

  • @GalenT
    @GalenT Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Rob, watching from Perth Australia, with fond memories from when we lived in London 20 years ago.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      I really appreciate that Galen, thank you so much my friend. Hope you’re having a good weekend 😊🇦🇺

  • @pablorobertodurso8892
    @pablorobertodurso8892 Місяць тому +1

    Great video . I think Seven spring looks more likely to be the source of the Thames . Beautiful places to visit . Have a nice day

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! Much appreciated; thanks for watching

  • @marlenekingdon482
    @marlenekingdon482 Місяць тому +3

    Spot on again Rob. We have made the Thames the focus whenever we've been in the UK. The source nearest Cirencester was to be this year's focus so it's terrific to see your film.❤❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much Marlene... you'll love Cirencester and the surrounding area, it's beautiful. Enjoy your visit.

  • @MrKenny777
    @MrKenny777 Місяць тому +2

    What a delightful journey you took us on. Each sight was lovely. But I'd go for the site that has water all year round.

  • @elwisuntemp7199
    @elwisuntemp7199 Місяць тому +2

    Hella interesting video! Really enjoyed the relaxing follow along the Thames to Trewsbury too ☺️

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words 🙂 Stay well.

  • @htukram
    @htukram Місяць тому +3

    Is it not possible to conclude that the Thames has 3 sources? For years, my postal address in Canada was RR2 Kemble so I have always felt a connection with Kemble in the UK, and the source of the Thames. Thanks for including the other two which I didn't know about!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Great comment! Yes, I’d like to think more
      than one source is an acceptable way to look at it!

  • @robertmurray6021
    @robertmurray6021 Місяць тому +5

    Running your hands in the clear water at the sauce of the Thames is far safer ,than the lower part in London,where you could pickup something very unpleasant!! Great Video 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Thanks Rob... and yes, exactly!

    • @gy2gy246
      @gy2gy246 Місяць тому

      @robertmurray6021 Is that Worcestershire sauce or soy sauce?

    • @stephenburnage7687
      @stephenburnage7687 Місяць тому

      I thought that the Thames was clean, nowadays?

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 19 днів тому

      @@stephenburnage7687 They did clean it up a few years ago, went to London last week for my birthday and it looked filthy.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 9 днів тому

      My understanding is that the lower Thames looks as dirty as it does is because it is a tidal estuary.

  • @MikeSmith-ye9ho
    @MikeSmith-ye9ho 21 день тому +1

    Seven Springs. There are spring heads all over these hills, Leckhampton Hill, Cleve Hill Dowdeswell. Collingwood springs also run down towards Leckhampton downhill towards Cheltenham. Seven Springs has the largest volume of water that runs every day of the year

  • @santiagohills3997
    @santiagohills3997 Місяць тому +1

    We visited 25 years ago, had a wonderful meal at the Thames Head Inn as well. A very pleasant memory.

  • @reckneya
    @reckneya Місяць тому +2

    Watching this video was a pleasant relaxing experience. I commend your skills as a documentary maker.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      That is so kind of you to say, much appreciated. Thank you ☺️

  • @Angelalovescutecats
    @Angelalovescutecats Місяць тому +30

    Could one put a dye in all three locations and see which wins?

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому +10

      An excellent idea! 😄

  • @mattabesta
    @mattabesta Місяць тому +2

    A creek or a stream becomes a river at some flow or width cutoff. Wherever the thames passes this mark at a yearly average should be consdiered the start. If we want to trace the longest path to every possible source of water we should simply trace the longest continous gradient from a high point in the drainage basin. But looking at these small springs and looking around is more fun. Very nice watch.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Місяць тому

      Nice comment and thanks for the kind words 😊

  • @iangalley3464
    @iangalley3464 Місяць тому +1

    Very informative and enjoyable video, thanks.

  • @asheland_numismatics
    @asheland_numismatics Місяць тому +6

    Great video! Someday, if I ever make it to London to see the city, I would love to meet you, Rob. 😎