Natalie Wood's death: "48 Hours" uncovers new evidence
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2011
- Erica Hill and Jeff Glor talk to Sam Kashner, contributing editor for Vanity Fair, about the investigation they conducted with "48 Hours," surrounding new evidence in the drowning death of actress Natalie Wood.
I remember when this happened, I was in the Marine Corps stationed at Camp Pendleton not far from Catalina Island, I had always thought that Robert Wagner killed her in a jealous drunken rage !
I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Wagner either pushed her into the sea or she fell and he just let her die. Someone is covering up the truth here, it's so obvious.
I have always thought something was strange about her death. She was scared to death of water! Like the captain said, she would have got him to tie up the dingy. But the captain said Wagner was standing there and waited 2 hours before they called someone. And also wouldn't let the captain turn on the light to look for her or the dinghy. I was living not far from where this happened and they didn't do any investigation. I have never felt right about her death!
Don't know why she died seems there was a terrible argument was the boat far from land
It’s pretty obvious the police didn’t investigate this because it all leads back to Robert Wagner & for them to state that he’s not a suspect is laughable if it wasn’t so tragic. What are they saying?….he’s the ONLY suspect!
2019 and nothing has happened. Wagner should have been charged 40 years ago. For the love of GOD. It's so obvious. Take it from someone who knows, the 80's were a time when being gay was so taboo. Wagner KNEW Natalie could destroy his career, yet, he didn't want her to be with another man either. She held his entire career, reputation and sole being in her clutch, and he got rid of her. End of story. Why these people are saying they've been investigating for 30 years is completely absurd to me.
Me too & agree w/you wholeheartedly….what a disgrace & travesty of justice. Absolutely INSANE!!
Natalie was forced into the water. She was deathly afraid of the water,plus when they found her body there were bruises on her armes and ankles. i wish they would get to the truth.
Omg 😱. She was beaten?!
I read the captain wanted to turn the search lights on and call someone. RW said " No, we're not going to do that." To both. How wierd. Can't think of any sane reason not to do that. Thats why captain said it, because that's what you do.. So he either pushed her off, or she fell overboard. Either way, they both did . . . nothing.
I always knew he was responsible. Hopefully Natalie will get justice before he dies.
Sadly, here we are 11 years after this vid. It was decided not to prosecute an 83 year old guy (93 now). Prosecuting him now would reveal how it was blown off when it happened in 1981, so cops and prosecutors won't let that happen. Just sad. History remembers. Robert Wagner is a piece of garbage and a murderer. If I met him today, I'd tell him that.
If Natalie feared water, then why would she willingly go in the water. She was forced to. No way this is an "accidental death".
Yep forced I deffentally believe she was forced into the water or pushed whichever it was she was murdered
Rookie mistake.
There is no logic in your statement. Never ever mix fear and unwilling.
They are not the same thing.
Just because she had a fear of water does not mean she didn't try to get to land by herself.
I myself have a very serious fear of heights. I hate flying.
It's pure torture.
I still fly. Not very often.
Rarely but I do.
She could very well have made the decision to get out of there especially after a big fight like that.
She was not forced to
@@MrBeckenhimself Yes your right. What if she was very upset after arguing with her her husband. She was drinking a lot. Believe me, I drink and that makes me do crazy things I would of never attempted sober. When we drink, unfortunetly anything is possible especially when your upset. I don't know just talking from my experiences.
Bunny .bingo ,and like her sister said “ In her pajamas “?
i have read a lot about natalie woods death and how she was terrified of the
water you can be sure that her death was not a accident
I can guarantee- with no fear of contradiction that it was not "a" accident. Possibly an accident though.
@@markoobstrepero1848 You know what she meant smh
Marko Obstrepero - No accident! She was murdered by her husband, Robert Wagner!
Likely they argued on deck and either she fell struggling with Wagner or he pushed her off, untied the dingy as a cover, and then would not let the captain turn on the searchlight because she still might have been rescued. The captain should have done it anyway. Regardless of the captain's status as an employee, a human life was at stake, and Wagner could not have stopped him form the pictures which are in the video.
You’re as good as my grammar school English teacher ,my favorite teacher
Just the fact that Robert Wagner refused to put on the search light after the captain realised Natalie was not on the boat, is enough evidence for me....
bull and more bull.
yep! enough for me as well..
Me three. Very shady!
@Eva Ivy get a life Rullis cult
@@lauramalizia9636 zRullis Cult
I was 11 years old when this happened and even at that young age, I believed something was wrong with this story.
Yep! Sad to see it so easily dismissed in the first place... People don't just fall off of Yachts especially when they're Bodyguard is on board and attests to fighting going on for two nights straight - even forcing Natalie to stay on the island instead of the Yacht the night before her death. So Sad!
antij
Barbara Rowley
I was 14 and remember it.
Never believed Robert Wagner was not involved in her death.
The reason he did not want the search light was he knew she had drowned and didn't want the search light to located her near the boat. So he asked DD not to use the search light and not to alert the Coast Guards and a full search was not done till 4 hours after the plea for help was heard by MM around 11 pm. This is very circumspect and it was ploy to cover up and the body not to be found right away. Since if DD had found the body with search light then he had to explain the circumstances.
Too bad the lady that heard her yell help, didn't do something.
She tried ,that was Marion Wayne ,Good ole John Wayne’s wife ,John tried repeatedly calling for help .Later Marilyn got prank calls very terrifying from Frank Sinatra telling her if she wanted to keep her health ,to be quiet .Tjey heard natalie crying out for a half hour .I think Frank meant well ,he knows how gossip starts in LA and he was protecting his buddy Wagner ,truly believing him innocent .Of course none of the real info came til after FS died
Marilyn Wayne
Wagner has something to do with her death period
When my dad said she drowned I knew there was more to the story than that.
never mary the same man twice...its always a bad idea
al lemon, believe it or not, my first cousin married the same woman three times!!!!
Amen, to that
Ok,, if you had troubles the first time for sure same problems the 2nd time.
@@susan8633 it is strange because she always had a boyfriend around. Have you seen the film about her life? she always had someone different! and they loved her!
@@kwrightsell565 true
The Captain was wrong to lie in the first place.. and he should have turned the flood light on regardless of what her husband said.
The Captains innocence is very suspect. How could you ignore the woman screaming in the next room. The woman who heard her on land called the 👮. What was he doing ? Nothing. Were all three men in it together and his conscience pricking him now.
The last person who saw NW was RJ just between 10-45 pm and 11 pm when the plea for help was heard by the nearest boat. The couple had deflated their dingy and Marilyn offered to swim and save her but her fiance told her it was dangerous. The body was found face down with the red quilt downer hoisting the body so the body was easy to spot by the helicopter nearly four hours after she drowned. The dingy was on off position and she had about 24 fresh abrasions and bruises mostly on her legs.
Unfortunately this happens all to often among the rich and powerful. The average person could not get away with a traffic ticket but with enough money and influence, anything including murder can be bought, threatened or even eliminated. For the sake of truth and justice, if justice exists at all, I hope they will pursue this case until the truth is known and the purpatrator is punished.
He pushed her oberboard and untied the dingdong and set it adrift.simple.
Well, it's very simple, Robert Wagner killed her. RIP Natalie ♥
I hope the real truth finally comes out, i never believed it was an accident..too many questions left unanswered.
I have been blessed with the gift of PROPHECY ( some people call it PSYCHIC ). Also, as a screenwriter and entertainer - I'm an admirer of the late and legendary Natalie Wood. I was just a13-year-old kid growing up in South L.A. when I saw the newsreport of her untimely death. Even as a kid the reports of "accidental drowning" - JUST DIDN'T SETTTLE RIGHT!
I knew it too….it was obvious to everyone except those who are under the thumb of a select group of Hollywood elites who throw their weight around in these matters & it obviously includes law enforcement based upon what we’ve seen here.
It's an old story, the rich and famous get away with it.
WHY DID ROBERT WAGNER REFUSE TO SWITCH ON THE SEARCH-LIGHT AND WHY DID THE CAPTAIN OBEY HIM???!!!!!!
That's very good question
@@alisaomahahillsvictoria3br671 maybe Natalie busted him again with a man ...he killed her so it WOULDENT get out " just thinking out loud"?
In another article, where the captain speaks out, he admitted to selling them drugs. He was probably afraid of being charged for that.
The Captain was afraid of Wagner.
Yes, but why should we believe him?
Rumors she walked in on Wagner & Walken, no wonder he didn't want her saved !
She had divorced him once for a reason. She should of stuck with that
something here was never fully explained
It's much more probable that a spouse would have something to do with it than anyone else.
Natalie Wood was extremely afraid of water because she almost drowned when she was young, shooting some movie. So, she wouldn't get in a dinghy by herself. That leaves her either falling off the deck, or being pushed off.
Wagner did not want the search lights turned on when she went missing. He also didn't want to immediately alert the authorities. In my book, all of these facts make him culpable. The boat captain seems credible & not in it for the money. His conscience is eating away at him.
Wagner murdered Natalie Wood eitheir by deliberately pushing her in the water and not rescuing her, or he murdered her when he chose not to rescue her if she accidentally fell in.
Whether he forced her off the boat or not==what kind of "Captain" is "ordered" to do nothing--and obeys. He sat on his dead ass and did nothing--he commented how "hard" it was for him (poor Captain do nothing) to be ordered by Mr Big. Why are so few comments made about Captain do nothing? Now he writes a book, paints, raises a family--good old Captain do nothing.
I know,right?! My thoughts exactly!Why didn't the captain stand up to Wagner and say ,"hey,we WILL turn on the floodlights"!
+Jmichael Isbell He took orders from Robert Wagner and maybe was intimated by Wagner (being a big movie star) and probably the sort of person whom backed down easily. Then he was to afraid to tell what all he knew and fear held him back from telling the story for years. (could be the case)
I'm sure he had his LIFE THREATENED if he Revealed the Truth or Interfered & Believe Me - After you WATCH SOMEONE KILL ANOTHER IN COLD BLOOD- YOU BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY YOU'LL BE NEXT!!
ThePrissyMommyLife yeah, it could be that--it could. At the same time, IF that happened, and he did not think he could handle himself against powerful "bob", then why not turn him in when they made port? Still afraid? At what point does a man stand up, or does he hide forever? That women needed his help, and yes, even if that meant he was in danger--she needed his help. What would he have said to her, in the water "sorry Dear, my own hide is worth more to me than someone like you dying---Mr. Big ordered me to do nothin, and that's just what I'm going to do, nothin, then I'm off to retirement, fulfilling my dreams"
Correct, I'm not nobody to die, i wouldn't care how much of a Jelly Fish I was for sorry ass Robert Wagner.
Here is a rumor I read on the Web several years ago. I retell it here with the sincere HOPE that the truth comes out! The gist of it is that poor Natalie was murdered because she knew that her husband (or someone else) murdered
actor William Holden the boyfriend of Stefanie Powers who was acting with Wagner at the time in the TV series "Hart to Hart". Apparently, Holden was too attached to Powers and "dragging her down". I PRAY that this is NOT true because it seems so heartless!! RIP Natalie!!
@TheLegendOfRandy would you think the same if it were your mother, sister, daughter or wife? I'm not saying R.J. killed Natalie, but this story has lived on for decades. The truth, for better or worse, deserves to come out.
And yet, Wagner has gotten off Scot-free-- appalling
Apparently, according to Lana, their mother, who fancied herself in having psychic powers, had warned Natalie about "dark water" since childhood and instilled this irrational fear into her. You would think Natalie would learn to swim to avoid this prophecy...which ironically I think, only fulfilled it.
she feared water!! why would she learn to swim if she feared water!? she barely even liked getting in a pool!
Rose Gold , well, if she feared water that much, why on earth would she and RJ even have a boat?
PungiFungi her sister did an interview saying as long as she didn't have to get in water she was fine with it, so she could go to the beach and be on boats because the water couldn't get to her as she would just stay out of it. just do some research if you really care that much because I obviously don't know Natalie!
Rose Gold , regardless, one would think you would learn to swim to avoid drowning,
PungiFungi or just stay away from water which she tried to do all her life..
I always believed Robert Wagner had something to do with her death, He thought there was something going on between her and Walken. They were filming "Brainstorm" at the time. I am pretty sure she wasnt interested in him. She loved Mr. Wagner. But they had argued and she left the room....Thats all we are certain of. I would love for them to get to the bottom of this as I know Mr. Wagner had something to do with it and he has gotten away with it for 30 years.
Heather Taylor maybe mr Wagner was interested in walken, Natalie was in the way
He drowned her by pushing her. That's murder to push someone into water she was terrified of with no knowledge of how to swim. He panicked when she threatened him with divorce again during the argument and everyone rides on his say so. Christefer, up's his stardom, the Captain paid off years ago, his stardom he saw going down the tube. Panic insued. She was drunk, not guilty so bad to get drowned and dead!!!! someone should run a petition to prosecute RJ. I am a child who grew up around these people at Santa Monica and Malibu. I know that they showed compassion but the guilty didn't get a chance to drive away with the law all over that boat. Do you really think Christefer Walken couldn't hear the argument when he left to his stateroom??? Get a life, that boat wasn't that big!!!!
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EXACTLY! And the Captain himself said they had been fighting for 2 nights straight forcing her to spend the night before her death on the island instead of the Yacht to get away from him but rejoined after a few drinks & persuasion...
so what is happening with the case NOW--2019?
C W nothing it seems
The story never seemed to ring true.I only question why the Capt. waited so long,TO TELL HIS TRUTH.
SKYBRITE oh yeah I forgot one more thing they settlement long enough so they can write a book and go on a speaking tour and make money and sign autographs at the book signing that's the other reason
I believe he was afraid.
Wasn't it told by him he was kept away from the media for a year and terrified by RWagner. By the way it's German. Vaagner pronounced like the German composer.
Incredible, RIP Natalie
Everybody's on about Wagner, but what about Walken? I think one of them had something to do with it.
This is 2021 and Robert still hasn’t been charged for her death
It's so unlikely to fall and get knocked unconscious. It's never happened to anyone I know, it's got to be rare. More likely that she was killed, especially when you hear all the information surrounding that night.
With that said, he doesn't believe any further examinations will label Wood's death as anything other than an accident.
The three-time Academy Award nominee was sailing off Catalina Island during Thanksgiving weekend in 1981 on a yacht she owned with husband Robert Wagner when she mysteriously ended up dead in the water.
Officials initially ruled her death as an accident, and 30 years later, no evidence seems to prove otherwise.--Comcast News Jan. 10, 2012
@ibfancyt1 he should have been in jail for 30 years
Unpremeditated murder is still murder
Most deffentally
I love you Natalie,ever though I was not even born when you were alive!
34 years ago, they were fucking way too quick to rule this as only "accidental death". They should have investigated more because I do not believe that Natalie, with her own will, would go out at night and tie a dingy to the boat because by doing that there was no way of avoiding looking at the dark water which she feared to death so much. Wagner, in a rage about his wife possibly having an affair with Walken, must have forced her to go tie that dingy and she fell and she cried for his help but refused to help her which contributed to her drowning. Maybe the stupid detectives or policemen should have considered that 34 years ago but now it's way too late. Even if he is guilty, which I know he truly is, it's extremely hard to dig up evidence after 34 years to convict him. And NO, they will not exhume Natalie's body, that is just way out of the question and especially infinitely disrespecting her. Wagner might not be punished here on this earth for what he did but he will be when he dies, by God.
materialgirl8707 I have always believed the Phil Collins song "In the air tonight" was about that.
She didn't fall she was pushed and he held her down by the ankles. How else could she have such deep bruises on her. These can't happen postmortom
It's really so odd that Wood, Wagner and Walken were all drunk that night, then the 2 men had a fight but neither ended up in the water. Instead, it's the woman who ended up dead in the water the next day. I think it's possible that either or both of the men had something to do with it, possibly the captain, too. Detectives need to get the 3 men in a room and once and for all let them catch one another out in their lies. Maybe then the truth will come out.
Surely this captain is guilty of lying and protecting the guilty parties?
Her last film seemed to promote peace with Russia (she grew up speaking Russian). Dr. Helen Caldicott, an expert on nuclear war, has said we need peace with all nations, including Russia. Many times since 1945, nuclear war has been averted by low level workers with the patience and sensitivity not to push the Automatic Launch on Warning. Natalie Wood (stage name) probably would have gone on to have a very impactful life. Her life was just beginning. Speaking of mysteries: Have you seen Kiki? She is only 14 years old, average weight, average height, African American, last seen at the Hilltop Mall area of Richmond, California, across the Bay from San Francisco (where Natalie Wood lived in her early years). Kiki (her nick name) please call your family, the Richmond police, or the Larkin Youth Center in San Francisco. Look them up on You Tube, their phone number is listed on their You Tube page or Wikipedia. She was a student at De Anza High School in Richmond. She has been missing since about January 15, 2018. Her family posted fliers about her and wants her home. Her last name is Smith. Please post a flier wherever teens hang out in your city..
She was pushed off the boat.
Yep, I agree.
I believe Wagner is guilty. There was always a suspicion about his account. What he may have done is bang Natalie in the head ( it is said she had be using to her head), and she probably got dizzy and swooned), and he most likely took her body and not threw it, but quietly set her body in the water and let the tide take her. Than he may have untied the dingy and push it away from the boat. No one heard a splash. He had anger issues and was terribly jealous, and full of drink. My questions would be, was Wagner wet when Dennis Devern was told that Natalie was missing? How was the dingy unloosed? We're the ropes cut? And why didn't Wagner allow the captain to put on the search lights? Probably because her body was still too close to the boat, and it was almost pitch black so No body could really see anything in the water unless search lights were used. No matter what, this is still a terribly tragedy. I heard that some folks feel Wagner is too old to be investigated. Well, Bill Cosby was convicted and he also, is in his 80's, so....
The L A police did not do a good job than; they were too "star struck". And Wagner had powerful friends who were able to influence the investigation, ( Sinatra, Reagan, etc). If the crime happened in this era, he would not have been able to get away with it. RIP, Ms. Wood. Your husband is a coward and a very bad man. Court of public opinion knows he killed you..
obviously she was killed
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The plot thickens! I wonder why the media keeps spotlighting this case. Is the culprit (RJ) being "shaken down" for more hush money?? And, why do these "culprits" keep getting TV ads? (RJ and William Shatner, to name two.) Some judgment!
Just like the movie he was in A Kiss Before Dying! Joan Woodward. Unbelievable!!!
It's so hard to believe, Natalie Wood & Robert Wagner,a couple so much in love, always looked so happy together. They are saying Robert Wagner killed her. If he did, what caused him to do something like that. The years they were together, were they known to have such violent fights? I'm sure it would have gotten out, it would be on the news. It's a very, very sad story. I feel for the children, losing their mother at such a young age. It must be hard when they hear their father killed her. Just so sad for all of them. Beautiful Natalie, one of the great beauties in Hollywood. RIP.
R.J. was controlling
Ridiculous! She was afraid of water and vacations on a boat? That is like having a fear of flying and buying an airplane!
Someone is missing. We took a head count and I could have sworn we had 2 passengers.
never marry the same man twice
Well I say never get drunk
Lots of Valuable Lessons Learned Here... Including Probably Don't own a YACHT if you're scared to Death of Water & your Abusive Husband Knows This.... So Sad!
ThePrissyMommyLife oh please she got on the yacht and got drunk she was no angel and how said he was abusive you know what makes me fucking sick is whan people say his a murderer all cos the captain said so after 30 years what a fucking shit innocent to proven guilty ever head of that one people had nothing but nice things to say about rj before the captain came forward with his lies people are so quick to judge murderer murderer that all you here im glad his a free man and geting on with his life with a supportive wife and his daughters standing by him do you think they would if they fought he killed they're mum no go rj go rj all the way your
Victor Milligan I absolutely agree with the not guilty til proven scenario and I do believe she should not have gotten drunk! You are right! At the same time - This is just NOT a common Accident - It just Isn't... I think that if he did kill her it was by accident as MULTIPLE PEOPLE not just the Capt - Witnesses from OTHER BOATS heard them arguing and fighting before the Accident. I'm just saying that SHE SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER than to GET ON A YACHT if she FEARS WATER - Especially with her & her HUSBAND FIGHTING Vigorously... To me, That's Abusive. I'm sure she wasn't an angel but I also find the story they gave the first time around EXTREMELY difficult to believe - I Hope I AM WRONG! And like I said I Agree with Everything you said - But I can Verify through Multiple Sources that there was PLENTY of Abuse on that Escapade resulting in her having to stay the night on the Island the night before her death because she was AFRAID to go back on the Boat due to the Aggressiveness of Her Husband. I hope you are Right! :)
victor milligan, you're mean spirited. even if she got drunk, she didn't deserve to drown, her worst fear come true, at the hands of her own husband
She was left to die and or murdered same thing.. Very sad very very sad and disturbing
Robert Wagner what did you do?
There is no evidence but only speculation.
look what happens when you're in a boat with Christoper Walken
Yeah he's a mobster from way back.
Christopher couldn't do anything bad
@DanKelso , who would want to have an affair with walken??
Who would want to have an affair with the saltwater
its 2020 and Nothing has ever been done!
This country just talks they will never do anything with him
Well, I remember back in 1981 the police having said that the dinghy was slamming against the yacht because of the storm causing a loud banging noise. They speculated that she tried to secure the dinghy and fell into the water.
RJ, did not want search lights or coast guard right away and the no one heard her plea for help pn Splendour, since the music was loud on the boat. MW heard her plea and the loud music that lasted for 15 min, then eerie silence. RJ reported to coast guard "one of the parties on the boat is missing" instead of my wife is missing or NW is missing. The Coast Guard was told after 2 hours and do a "low key" search. The last person who saw her was RJ. Contrary to reports it was DD who ID'd the body.
How come the lady on another boat heard the cries for help and RJ and the Captain AND Walken didnt hear a thing?
Natalie was leaving Wagner! Truth is something he doesn’t want to discuss he’s sticking to his story all along as it’ll be suspicious 😒 if he changes it now 👮♂️
She divorced him the first time they were married, because she caught him in bed with another man. Her sister told her not to marry him again.
Has anyone got a link to the 48 hours episode on this?
I firmly believe this Kashner guy as VF have a credible rep for fact finding researcher into everything they cover and leave nothing unturned...
So what is the new account ?
She had a true fear of water an to die from it . Wagner an walken kept changing their stories . In the end they were covering their own asses . Gives a new meaning to bros before hoes :-/ a mother is gone - a daughter- a sister - an a wife . A good human being who so intelligent emotionally saw death an the coldness of her killer . She was cold an scared in that water struggling for her life . This. End to me is so sad for Natalie . I wish she made it . We can only pray for justice . I will unt
I agree she was very intuitive and her fear of water was very real. She possibly knew in her gut she would die by drowning even if it wasn't accidental.
Now what? This is not an official police investigation .Only a magazine!
Dont' minimize her death, yes they are opening the case 30 yrs later which can be seen as pointless, but many are still curious and im sure her family would want justice. A woman ( a beautiful famous one at that ) died mysteriously, of course people are still going to be curious.
And why has the evidence disappeared?In cold cases the evidence is preserved for ages.Why wasn't it preserved in this case?Maybe NWs family didn't follow up this case very vigorously!
I am wondering whether Natalie had been rendered unconscious on the Splendor and her body was carried outside the ship, and the suspect(s) held her upside down in some trough of water, to give the impression she drowned?
This would mean she was not actually thrown in the sea (Catalina Island) but instead the suspect(s) put her in her swimming trunks to make it look like she drowned.
She was in the night gown and socks.
They found brusing on her face arms and legs. They had a fight. I feel Robert beat her and then dumped her into the water and untied the dingy.
wow that woman was beautiful.
Although a tragic death was involved to a beautiful actress, & Wagner should have been held accountable, don't forget that someone is receiving royalties, assets, etc from Natalie Woods estate could that be motive or coincidence from it all ?
Anything is possible since we do not know what went on behind closed doors.. He did start publicly dating Jill St John only a month or two after who was suppose to be the love of his life died. For all we know, he could have wanted to fight with her to set it up as an accident. They fought two nights in a row but she asked the captain to take her to shore to get away from him and then he talks her into coming back on board the next day and then he immediately started the fight, both men felt the need to leave the room and the next thing - she is gone. Who knows but something stinks in denmark.
The four of them came back to the Splendour (an extra u, was added by NW, for the movie "Splendor in Grass" so not upset RJ) around 9-30 pm. RJ broke a wine glass after heated argument. CW, retired. Around 10-30 pm a heated argument broke out between RJ and NW, She went to the deck in a night gown and wool sox. RJ got her quilt downer. The last time she was seen on the deck was by DD and RJ told him to put on the music (MW heard the plea at 11pm and loud music) The dingy was gone.
you said twice that you KNOW wagner had something to do with it. on what exactly do you base this conclusion?
Wagner guilty but you can't put number two in prison
@wobblesnorts Accusations must be made in order for charges to surface....
Killers are not normal people! They have serious sothiopathic traits in their blood. You would have to know Robert Wagner, to know if he killed Natalie. I do not know much about him so I don't know if he killed her. Does Robert Wagner have sociothiopathic traits? Anyone!
He might also have psychopathic ones. Depending on if he got himself insane from the inside, in his mind, or did other people get him insane.
in what way? He seems extremely normal & mild-mannered to me.
+Santos EXACTLY! And the Captain himself said they had been fighting for 2 nights straight forcing her to spend the night before her death on the island instead of the Yacht to get away from him but rejoined after a few drinks & persuasion...
newport682 Robert. Wagner has no contact with the family. No tears or remorse: Christopher never comments about her death. That seems odd. This should not be a case, sine things are better left unsaid. A human life was tragically lost.
@@joycegibbs5267 He was known to have a very bad temper. Basically a ticking time bomb.
He was an extremely jealous man and specially under the influence of alcohol. The fight between RJ and NW was both physical and verbal with lot of things thrown around in the state room. She wanted to get away from the scene and went to the deck follower by RJ. No one except RJ, knows what exactly happened in the last 15 minutes of her fate. The dingy was tied with two ropes-not one as reported in the news-and it was tied by DD himself. The dingy was missing when RJ told DD that she was missing.
Poor investigation,then!
Alcohol was a large factor in the out-come of the evening. Natalie may have survived if She had been sober. Nothing goods comes from excessive drinking.
She was shoved overboard by Wagner.
@emacat1215 The police also said OJ wasn't a suspect, right up until they got an arrest warrant.
We'll never know the truth to this case, it will just fizzle out once again. Re-opening this case is like taking a walk down memory lane, and nothing more.
Wagner and Walken are both old men now, their days are therefore numbered and neither will ever be considered suspect, let alone convicted.
She´s been investigating for 30 years and so what? she doesn´t do anything. Only words, with no action.
I remember when it happened all that was said she'd been drinking & fell over board.(big cover up)
I might hate myself in the morning for saying this, but is it true that when Natalie Wood passed away on November 29, 1981, that she was considered merely another casualty of the excesses that defined Hollywood in the 1980s?
To put it into further perspective, I'd think few tears were shed for her the day she died. Despite having a successful film career, Wood's film-making genius burned out quickly in a fever of drink and drugs, especially after graduating from her childhood years and meeting Robert Wagner for the first time in 1957.
she was not a famous star anymore but when her name came up people remembered her
ClassicTVMan1981X You are so wrong in your assessment. The public adored Natalie Wood, it left many in shock that she died and like this. Wagner actually got away with hiding the truth as the public didn't believe he was capable of any wrong doing. They were the ultimate Hollywood couple.
Rose Gold She was a famous star. Maybe not a working star, but famous to those of us who watched her grow up on film and adored her. She may have not been working a lot, but when she did appear, we were anxious to see her.
There was a lot of shock when she died because not only was she loved and admired but beacause of how she died. It was well known that she feared water. Her movies were also played all week by a few TV networks. It was a sad day.
A lot of speculation about this case. We are never going to know the truth about what happened.
The last time RJ saw her, she was in the bath room in front of the vanity mirror. The last time DD saw her was on the deck of the boat. She the dingy was tied with two ropes and it was neither banging on the boat nor was it the reason she went there. Most logical explanation is she slipped close to the dingy. She tried very hard to get inside the dingy but drowned. Question of who untied the dingy-it was NW or it came lose by itself is the big question. Either way there was no foul play.
Oh!do dingies untie themselves?Didn't know that!
that boat wsn't that big so why it took them so long to search the boat i don't buy wagners actions say a thousand words i think he killed her on the boat or knocked her unconscious and threw her over the side
If Wagner isn't a suspect maybe Walken will be??? who knows. I remember a while back it was said she had a head injury as well which they attributed to hitting her head as she fell while trying to reach for the dinghy which of course sounds like someone hit her on the head w/ something. It'll come out eventually.
He's not going to sue anyone cause if he did it once again the case was closed as accidental drowning . Probably Natalie's sweetness beyond the grave asking GOD to allow him that grace for the sake of her kids who would b so upset to know that dad an stepdad as well killed their mother !! Yes she is selfless like that cause now her kids r motherless . He will pay . Mayb not in this life . He had something to do with her death. He did .