+Francis Bui his over head is lacking. Plus he pulls in a little early with slows his bar speed down and kicks the bar out in front a little. Hard to correct also his arms are longer than Tiaos so that's probably a compensation on his part. Also there's the drug factor. Tiao and China are masters of taking drugs and not getting caught. The Japanese and Germans for example don't dope their athletes nearly to the same extent because their Olympic federations have much stricter bylaws.
Having locked it overhead they already know they've got the lift, so they just drop the bar to get on to the next rep. Guess it saves some energy not standing up.
I noticed that he bends his elbow to get the bar into the hip pocket. Does he do this intentionally because he has long arms? Is this a hip clean? I heard its not good to bend your arms?
Why hasn't he a performance as good as tian tao for instance? I mean. Same category, almost same max back squat, and I don't know the personal best of each one in every other exercises, but almost the same squat indicates that toshiki is fucking strong, so I guess that's not because of a lack of strength.
this is when technique joins the party, as you said, tian and toshiki have the same numbers talking about squating ,even toshiki has a heavier front squat if im not wrong, but tian's technique is so good, his clean is probably the strongest in the 85 kg category, and his jerk is just a little weaker than his clean, he struggle a lot in international stage cuz hes nervous, his trainer said that once, and hes implacable in his home china, now, toshiki has an amazing clean,but a really bad jerk, talking in terms of relative strength, he proably can clean +210,but he can barely jerks 200-205
Andrew I think it's all about preference and bodystructure. Just like some people squat very wide, while others almost point their knees straight forward. Try to find the position where your legs can deliver as much force as possible, and this varies from person to person, and you'll be fine.
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This guy's clean should be in a museum
His clean is insane man..
God his clean is like butter, holy shit.
Lightning footwork omg
By far my favorite lifter, so crisp and clean.
Very conservative progression. I like it.
the speed and power are strong with this one
Best technique in the world right now.
Max Lang's up there, too. Both are truly amazing to watch
what do you believe his limiting factors are from being A class? Injury? overhead stability?
+Francis Bui his over head is lacking. Plus he pulls in a little early with slows his bar speed down and kicks the bar out in front a little. Hard to correct also his arms are longer than Tiaos so that's probably a compensation on his part. Also there's the drug factor. Tiao and China are masters of taking drugs and not getting caught. The Japanese and Germans for example don't dope their athletes nearly to the same extent because their Olympic federations have much stricter bylaws.
If you compare his result to his strength levels his technique isn't that good. It is not just how it looks it's also how efficient it is.
kurmoxor exactly he's got some efficiency issues. He's still very young and looks like he's making strides in the right direction
I think he might be my favorite lifter
My only criticism of Toshiki is his empty bar drop height, it’s way to low. Maybe he needs to do a training camp with the Chinese team.
the power these guys have once they hit the world stage like this makes me sad at my tiny lifts hahahah
Understanding weightlifting by doing it yourself just makes you more appreciative of their strength and technique.
Oh I agree, Im just kidding around - Im still super new to it (and pretty bad) but addicted for sure
I attempted a 90kg snatch yesterday 12 times and missed every time. it saddening :( but i'v only been training the Olympic lifts for like 6 weeks.
lower your weight and work on technique - much too early to be worrying about hitting high numbers
Pink Omega check your technique... big Weights Will come alone..
Powerful tecnique!
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Hi Clarence
I was thinking the same thing, his form looks SO similar and his speed as well.
@@ais193 so similar! Hell no
I'm a big Clarence fan but no. They have so much different techniques
They are fast asf
im a stupid beginner, please explain why he doesnt complete the first rep on his snatch'doubles
Having locked it overhead they already know they've got the lift, so they just drop the bar to get on to the next rep. Guess it saves some energy not standing up.
I noticed that he bends his elbow to get the bar into the hip pocket. Does he do this intentionally because he has long arms? Is this a hip clean? I heard its not good to bend your arms?
Yes, it is because his long arms
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Why hasn't he a performance as good as tian tao for instance? I mean. Same category, almost same max back squat, and I don't know the personal best of each one in every other exercises, but almost the same squat indicates that toshiki is fucking strong, so I guess that's not because of a lack of strength.
Random Mardon His technique is probably lacking in some aspect.
He has had some pretty big injuries, like some kind of fracture in his leg, and I think a shoulder thing that makes his jerks helicopter.
this is when technique joins the party, as you said, tian and toshiki have the same numbers talking about squating ,even toshiki has a heavier front squat if im not wrong, but tian's technique is so good, his clean is probably the strongest in the 85 kg category, and his jerk is just a little weaker than his clean, he struggle a lot in international stage cuz hes nervous, his trainer said that once, and hes implacable in his home china, now, toshiki has an amazing clean,but a really bad jerk, talking in terms of relative strength, he proably can clean +210,but he can barely jerks 200-205
Why and when should one use "the frog stance" before the lift, does anyone know???
He focuses on back straight first
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Ryu Vaporwave thiiiiiiiiiicc
who dat girl in da back tho?
asking the important questions
jrm_ayun I gotchu bro
He opens his knees out so wide during the snatch while I've been pointing them dead forward, is this something that should be switched?
Andrew I think it's all about preference and bodystructure. Just like some people squat very wide, while others almost point their knees straight forward. Try to find the position where your legs can deliver as much force as possible, and this varies from person to person, and you'll be fine.
Its all about biomechanics. his knees need to be that wide to stay confortable
0:19 what's wrong with clock haha