Nord Piano 5 vs Yamaha CP88 - Stage Piano sounds Comparison
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- We put the Brand new Nord Piano 5 against the fantastic Yamaha CP88, to see which one we think has the best sound.
What do you think of both stage pianos? Let us know in the comments
Nord Piano 5 88 Stage Piano - £2549
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Yamaha CP88 Stage Piano - £1699
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I just had a go with both of these in a shop, and I found the Nord keys have to be played much harder than the Yamaha. If played very softly, the Nord often fails to play all the keys. The Yamaha on the other hand, always played all the notes of the keys even when played very lightly. To me... the Yamaha keyboard was much nicer and miles more sensitive when played lightly. So... I bought the Yamaha. It was also about £1000.00 cheaper. The Nord sounds great, but so does the Yamaha. I also liked how much easier the Yamaha was to understand. I spent the saving on some amazing speakers .
wise move.....
You can adjust the key settings so you don’t have to press so hard,in other keyboards they are called touch settings,guess you didn’t know that
@@robertmichalscheck3072Perhaps some numbers illustrating gram downweight of the keys would be even better. This is how acoustic piano actions are checked
I'm a 73 year old lifelong piano player.
My 2 cents worth?
Nord is warmer in sound however the Yamaha piano samples are more realistic and true to an actual piano.
Can't tell anything about feel from a video.
(Disclaimer here.
I'm a lifelong Yamaha guy.)
Guess I need to find a store with both instruments available to sample.
At 80 pounds the Kawai is not in consideration to lug around.
i give rhodes and clav to Nord, Wurli and Ac. Piano to yamaha, and action to yamaha. But the accessible library is something id hope all the competitors would be on.
For a older keyboard I was quite surprised how good the Yamaha sounded. And yes, it was better…congrats Yamaha!!
LOL JESUS IS 3 YEARS OLD?
Better than what!? The Nord? Negative.
I have the Yamaha SX90 s and it has been wonderful to play when on gigs… but now, retired from the road, I love to close my eyes and enjoy the great piano Sound from my Nord Piano 5… like playing on the real thing, regarding that I haven’t got the money or the space for a Grand Imperial…
For me it's simple. When listening to the music, was I "standing next to a piano" or was I hearing a recording? I scrolled down, reading the comments while I listened. And when I felt like I was noticably "standing next to the piano" and scrolled up, it was the Nord.
And when it seemed I was listening to the radio, it was the Yamaha. Just sounded more flat, artificial, like a simulation.
Nord wins, it would seem. Full disclosure: I have a Nord Piano 5 and I love it!
I LOVE Yamaha (Tyros 5 & P-250 are my main instruments), but I honestly didn't expect it to fare this well against the Nord. Nord's piano library captures the entire nuanced experience of the piano sound where TYPICALLY Yamaha (& most other manufacturers') piano/EP samples, while excellent, are a more idealized, very processed, and looped representation, which has been why I've preferred Yamaha in the past; you know a Yamaha is always going to cut through a mix, while previous incarnations of Nord (i.e., my ill-fated Nord Electro 3) just didn't stand out & sounded murky and unimpressive in practical applications. Modern Nords, however, are a COMPLETELY different affair, as they achieve the balance of authenticity & presence flawlessly, but this offering by Yamaha is closing the gap a bit in regard to acoustic piano; the EP is still VERY idealized, but, again, there will be no worry about it standing out. The free unlimited downloads for Nord sounds are an entirely different subject, though. I just wish Nord would consider an internal memory expansion or a USB storage option for storage of more samples that offers seamless access (like with any PC flash drive or external HDD) and no loading or special hurdles.
This is a very professional observation from your side. Nord stays on its own no doubt but the CP-88, especially with the 1.5 update sounds more than considerable. They got a Steinway sampled now and that's great.
However, Nord remains authentically very close to a real piano. There're just a few world class VSTs that might challenge their top piano sounds successfully. Yet, even Nord must improve 1 thing or two.
All the best!
@stenaldomehilli8809 WOW. Yamaha has included a Steinway sample? That's very progressive for a piano manufacturer ([cough] listening Kawai [cough]. lol)! Nord is definitely at the top of the hardware piano authenticity totem. I agree with you; VST's are an ENTIRELY different arena! My Revenscroft app would embarrass some of Nords libraries. Lol. I've tried using my sample libraries live, though, &, other than Keyscape, they aren't optimized for live use & have to be tweaked considerably. I bought an NP5 because it doesn't require the extra steps for setup.
Nord is natural. Love the piano's they are the best IMO
The Nord has all the nuances like key and pedal noise that the CP88 DIDN'T have. I say "didn't" because now the CP88 has Hamburg Grand, which IMO, with some tweaking with EQ, sounds pretty darn close to White Grand.
do you have the yamaha? And got some sugestion for tewaking the eq or other settings to get the most out of the piano sound, e.g. the hamburg grand? would really appreciate your answer! alex ;)
I have a Stage 3 compact and was trying to decide between getting Nord Piano 5 or Cp88. Decided to go with Cp88 because the Nord Piano 5 has the exact same sounds as my Nord Stage 3 Compact. BIGGEST MISTAKE EVER! Nord beats the Cp88 in almost every department. The only thing I prefer on the Cp88 is the DX7 sound. Everything else is Nord by a long shot. Especially grand piano, upright piano, and synths.
Rhodes EP samples are much better on CP88.
I agree. I should have said ep's and clavs in general are better on the Yamaha but Nords ep's are good enough for me. I prefer having the best piano and organ sounds and decent Ep sounds and amazing synths with the Nord.
I own the Nord electro 6d and i still prefer the piano tones on the CP88. Seems like the pianos on the Nord are tiny and bright.
While I appreciate the effort, in my opinion the comparison has no value at all. It's like comparing a Bösendorfer, Fazioli, Shigeru Kawai and Steinway on youtube. We all (who are interested in music) know that the perception of what is a good piano sound is totally personal. Do you want a piano that sounds like a cold well behaved kid or do you want a naked vulnerable sound full of feelings? It's up to you and not to anyone else to decide for you. If you don't find out for yourself in the shop you may well end up buying a piano that will become a dust collector because you subconsciously don't really like the sound. In addition to that, you have to try playing them too, to find out if you like the key feeling. That's what landed me with a Kawai when I bought an acoustic piano. And I tried three different pianos of the same model to find the one with the sound that I liked the best. So: go out and try for yourself. By all means, listen to this, but don't make a decision based on it. At least Nord has a whole series of different piano sounds in their library that you don't hear here, and I assume that Yamaha does, too. In addition, you can always tweak with effects to whatever extent you like - which might turn your first impression upside down. And finally, not least, what about the interface, if you plan to change things every now and then?
best answer ever.!!!!!......very true.... so of my choices in life....i always get all of em if i cant make up my mind.... but that hurts the bank !
8:45 wow 🤩 both are amazing
Both sound amazing!! But, I'm Team Yamaha, so that's what I'd buy for sure!!!
You've spent time with Yamaha that's way. Own a Nord for a week and that would dramatically change.
No. I've played on Nord too. I'll always be A Yamaha buyer. To each their own. I've been playing for 50 years. On many different ones. I love my Yamaha!!!
@@debijohoffman1875 I get it...I own both. But my Stage 3 murders the rest. That's mine and everyone else's opinion, who hear them live. I love Yamaha too....especially a Concert grand. But you're right....it's all preference.
I have always been faithful to Yamaha. I can't get enough of the "Powergrand" patch. I absolutely love that sound for the kind of music I play. I am buying my first nord. I have always been a Classic Motif guy because of that patch. I did like the nord a lot when I tried it though. I am faithful to Yamaha though. Let's see.
@@HERodriguezJr Exciting! Did you get your Nord yet? If so, did your opinion change?
I'm looking at buying one of these at the moment and so hard to decide. To be honest I like the Nord but only very slightly over the Yamaha. Point would be if it justifies an almost double price? I think that important to keep in mind. Also Yamaha have balanced out and a pitchbend / modwheel. Anyways, people are strong opinion whether they like Y or N, I wonder if linguistical influence have anything to say here. I'm Danish, so that's close to Sweden where Nord is designed - maybe an explanation...
the only unbiased opinion is from someone who has both........
It’s difficult to tell because the sound levels for the Nord - especially on the pianos is much louder and that creates skewed comparison
True. I cannot find any difference as a listener.
Your right …. and the sounds are completely different, but most importantly its about how the keybeds feel.. the intonation and in that department the Yamaha is miles better than the Fatar/Nord offerings. Try one for yourself. These demos are kind of pointlessly subjective - its like comparing apples and oranges. Having owned several Nords and Yamaha’s I can assure you the CP88 physics is phenomenal in its intonation/key-bed relationship department. It is a very fine instrument whereas with the Nord, your always feeling like its a sound being triggered and played back. Its simply not that engaging or inspiring. I could be wrong, but I’m yet to be convinced by the Nord offerings. By the way, I’m not anti Fatar. Fatar build the fantastic TP9/S key-bed which every fine synthesiser should have in my view.
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 Why would you? Its not about what you hear, its about how the sound is created and feels when you ‘play’ it.
Of all the digital pianos I've ever played or heard, Yamaha consistently has the greatest presence and brilliance.
no XLR, no USB, no pitch/mod manipulator, no physical drawbars, plastic keys without realistic action, more expensive. But damnit the nord still sounds better.
To be fair, this is the nord Piano 5 (and it does have USB with MIDI), designed for pianists who don't use pitch/mod - nord makes other instruments with the pitch/mod wheels, and other instruments with the drawbars. They ARE expensive but, they say, hand made.
I think the nord just has a bit more depth and nuance to its sound but i'm not sure if that is due to the way this video was recorded or not. I can't wait to test these two out in store.
Yamaha is the one !!! For shure🎉
Both have the good sound. But I prefer choose Yamaha. In Indonesia, Yamaha is the King of keyboard & piano
One of the most important things for anyone who really plays piano is keyboard feel. Another very important thing is how it sounds in a band. Nord seems to have a lot more body.
Night and day. The Nord consistently dominates in the acoustic piano sounds. And I still love Yamahas. I grew up playing them and gravitate toward the feel and sound. At the same time these new Nords (piano 5 Nord Grand etc ) are in a league of their own
But have you tried the CP88?
@@bobrobertson9547 Yep. I normally gravitate toward Yamahas. I play them everyday for my day gig. The touch and sounds create fatigue after playing for long periods of time.
@@jasonlibs I don’t find that. I find the TP/40 and TP/400 far too light for playing. I also find them to be very forgiving - unlike the Yamaha which makes even a decent player sound rubbish. Technique required. I find the Yamaha to be more of an instrument and lets be frank, Yamaha know a bit about key-bed physics.
@@bobrobertson9547 I’m not familiar with those models. I play strictly digital pianos. Cp 33s Cp4s P125 etc. Never been a fan of the Nord Keybed until the Nord Grand. And Nord partnered with Kawaii for that keybed, which is sublime to play. The Yamahas are the sound I’m used to hearing and preferring all of my life. At the same time, Nord samples are now superior and create less ear fatigue over long use both for the player and listener
@@jasonlibs Yes, I do agree that the Nord sample library is sublime. I just wish they’d build a rack sampler and let us all choose our own keybeds. 👍
The best choice is the one you like.
the nords sounds far more powerful than the yamaha, I love yamaha, but the nord takes this in my unworthy ears anyway
Call me shallow, but the colour of the Nord is vile..Wouldn't be seen dead on stage with one. I also happen the prefer the Yamaha piano sounds.
Personal choice. Many would borrow money and die in debt to be seen with the Nord..
What's wrong with having a bright red keyboard?
Hallo zikov
Ich schließe mich dem an.
Dieses rot finde ich furchtbar.
Wenn ich wüßte das es den Nord in schwarz
gibt,dann würde ich den eher kaufen.
Aber generell ist der mir zu teuer und ich kann es
gar nicht glauben das es keine anderen namhaften
Hersteller gibt die genauso gute Stage Pianos herstellen.
Ich denke mir es ist einfach nur das rote denn das scheint
angesagt zu sein und wer das hat ist Hipp.
Das ist das gleiche wie bei den DJ‘s
Wer kein pioneer hat sondern nur denon der kann dann
auch nicht gut sein.
Nun gut .
Ich werde versuchen mein Stage Piano zu finden.
So denn…👍✌️
It seems a bit warmer and powerful the nord, besides the volume
Overall sound quality, the Nord is superior Yamaha sounds thin and I can't hear the distinct sound of each key during complex passage. Yamaha does not sound natural compared to the Nord in upper octaves. I'm a fan of Yamaha but this comparison is too obvious for me to choose the Nord Piano 5 instead.
I sold all my nord keyboards, not worth the money. YC88 destroys the nord in every sound other than organs
It’s red !!! …. Everyone need it 🤣🤣🤣
Yep, the colour is probably THE reason why Nord keyboards has become almost an industry standard for gigging live-musicians. It just has to be because of the red colour……..or maybe not.
To me it sounds like the piano on Yamaha is more “stereo” less center Sound,maby sampled with a stereo mic, and nord a single mono I dont know. I Think the Yamaha Piano Sound is bigger when played with other sounds because of that
Nord 😍
I have the CP73 and it is just ok, I am underwhelmed by about 70% of the keyboard,,all pianos are passable but just, again you get what you pay for,,the reason I didn't buy a Nord is because the key bed made so much noise, just turn off the sound and see for yourself, if you pay premium price it should be perfect. Also at the time I didn't want to wait for a long delivery,,,lesson learned. When you are playing for private parties the key sound makes me crazy...crazier ,,the only thing I didn't try is using a mixer before the speaker,,,thats next.
The reason cannot be "because".
@@Pe6ek because the keyboard sucks, because it is overpriced, because it is red, it is more hype than performance. The mixer section is mediocre at best, turn the sound off and listen to the keyboard,,,thump, thump,,,
@@Vito_A_Labella Yes yes, but when you write "the reason is", you must proceed to write WHAT the reason is and not WHY the reason is.
Till you try Kawai ES920... it's loud too. But sound is excellent.
Man totally agree about the boards vs money issue, should be perfect or close to it. Did this get any better for you with the cp73 after a year and the supposed updates they’ve made to the sounds?
I like the Yamaha more; but i find "reason piano" samples hard to beat; they maybe lack some options but , for recording, i like these samples more than any standalone electric piano i can find. However the samples sound "dirty" but in my productions blended pretty well in the mixes.
Nord more natural.
1:34 nord amber grand lowest notes sustain cut. Unnatural
Hahah, comedown genius! The sample you hear at 1:34 is the white grand. It loops but the original sample has longer sustain than Yamaha Pianos before it needs to replay the same sound. Until now the only pianos which don't loop are either modeled or sampled by large VSTs. No piano sounds have better key-off samples than Nord!
@@stenaldomehilli8809YC88 destroys the nord in piano sounds, clearly have never been close to any sort of grand piano in your life
EP is not North's strength in this demo... so mushy. And unsurprisingly, Yamaha leads DX7.
Yeah, but that's the character of most unmodified REAL Rhodes'; They are mushy, muddy, unbalanced, inconsistent, and semi dynamic, but still sweet (wurli's are typically more dynamic, but a lot fatter and muddier than most processed sampled representations). Samples are only idealized versions of the best MODIFIED examples. Nord seems to try staying true to what folks who've experienced a Rhodes recognize while Yam and others take the SUPER idealized approach.
The EP2 on Nord would have been a more direct comparison. Those were two completely different models of EP he compared. The Yamaha sounds good but the Nord is so much more lush… hard to compare.
Between both, nord is eon above yamaha. I can tell blindfolded listening both enen via crappy phone speaker.
Nord 🙏
The nord 5 is a class of its own . Yamaha is good but nord is better . Now I understand why all the
professionell musicians used nord ..
Nord ❤️
Nord is the best! And I love Yamaha but the mighty Nord is no match!
nord 5 uawwwwww...other level piano sound
comparando Yamaha com YAMAHA...TUDO DO NORD SOA YAMAHA
NORD IS THE KING
Nord piano is much more natural.
Red or Black ? Mmmm…… 😢
i think this is the most important issue....hehe... like choosing a girlfriend.... cooking and house keeping are the least important
yamaha wins!
Nord had better piano in my opinion but I do like the u1 from Yamaha but eps go to Yamaha that just my opinion lol now yam
That was the attempt to get closer to Nord. But it's not even close. Nord is the best
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From personal experience the only strength the CP88 has is the upright piano. The other piano sounds and all the synths are garbage. I have a piano 5 on order and cant wait till it arrives. Also for clarification I’m not biased all of my keyboards until now have been yamaha. I just think the CP88 was underwhelming especially when compring to an older gen stage piano like an s90
You might want to take a look at some of the Nord reviews that show damage right out of the box. Not only that I’ve seen some demos that show extremely loud and clicky keys. For an instrument of its price point, none of those things should happen. Having said that, Nord does have good piano sounds. But their quality assurance department leaves plenty to be desired. Especially for that price I wouldn’t buy one.
@@davesworld9627 I highly agree, I'm reading QC action issues on even the flagship Nord grand. One excellent pro player who made a largely viewed YT video on the NG a few years ago when it debuted, is selling his after the playing the YC88. And he owns a Yamaha C7 and has owned an AvantGrand N3...so he knows what a real piano action feels like and how it responds for a pro player. He has had some keyboard issues even on the non-fatar. I've owned two different NPs fwiw- NP original and NP2. Too much dough for questionable QC issues. At that money there should be ZERO problems of any kind.
@@davesworld9627 No issues at all out of the box. I’m happy with my purchase. Now after playing both keyboards for sometime. I will always choose the Nord. The feel of the keys on the yamaha is definitely nicer, hammer action is similar but for software and hardware Nord wins.
@@PianoUncion For you perhaps, for others the Nord has too many quality control issues to command the price that it does.
Roland RD2000
I owned both Nord Stage 3 (88 keys) and Rd-2000 at the same time. I ending up selling the Roland as i just sounded very artificial compared to the Nord (especially the pianos). It did have better keys. Keyfeel are important, but I’ll never trade better keys for the sacrifice of soundquality. Never.
@@theclavermanI am actually the opposite of that. I rather have better key action than sound. Using vst beats any keyboard in the market. Specially using keyscape.
@@ispianist what do you mean by opposite? I didn’t I say that keyfeel was unimportant? Yes vst’s like keyscape are great. But when touring or gigging it is absolutely not convinient to use a laptop with vst’s, and programs like mainstage is sadly not reliable/stable enough for live use when needing alot of layered patch changes. For gigging, I still say Nord Stage all the way…And on the new Nord Stage 4 the keys are great. You know, there is actually a reason why these red keyboards are seen all over the place on concerts TV-shows….and its not because of its red colour.
@@theclaverman You said it. " I will never trade better keys for the sacrifice of sound quality. Never" I do own a Nord electro 6D. It is all Hype. You can't tell me is the "best keyboard" That statement would be subjective. I bought the Nord just because I wanted to see for myself if really was a good keyboard. It is good but their price tag don't makes up for their products. I think Nord is way overrated.
Yamaha any day definitely beats a nord
Wish you could have a better player do these demos
You people need better piano players to do demos,tired of amateurs doing demos,I can’t even watch them
Nord is weak.
Ok
@@theclaverman here here
@@walterworrallThere there!