Hello Dewayne, thank you matey, I’m getting around a bit better now but relying on George to run me around if need be. I’ve just reminded Robin about my Birthday in June, that invitation was for you too, but appreciate the distance involved. Johnny Allen is coming down for the weekend from Cheshire, I knew a whole roast pig would draw him out 🤣🤣🤣
Great video Dave I still can't get over how both scopes perform well on night mode without the ir before it's totally dark. Very enjoyable comparison video mate.
Thanks Jim, yes I know exactly what you mean, they are astounding for sure, I thought the Mk1 was good, but the Mk2, well you have to experience it to believe it !😳😳
Ian , Thank you very much ! I tried really hard not to include the usual BS that some gushing paid reviewers produce. OK, so it may not be the highly polished finish, but the pictures proved the point, I hope 🤞🏼 Thanks for watching, David
Oh yes indeed it has, I’ve already had Johnny Allen asking me to order him an Alpex Cortina for him and he’s coming down for my Birthday bash, and will collect it from here. I know it’s a long way for you and Dewayne, but you know you’re all welcome. Jo could spend the morning shopping !!! £££££🫢🫢😉
Hello Mick, it was nice to get out for two hours mate. That’s about my limit at the moment, and I’m always accompanied, just in case something happens. Fantastic evening footage though, even I was amazed 😳
Thanks Dave, I also did the C50 Hik dance and agree with your comments. Handy video as i also have both, either does the job when required and as you say, the 4k clarity and the iris, is top notch. Shooting rabbits on a light night, a torch isn't necessary as both pick up targets due to their technology. Hope to meet up sometime as we are both from same area.
Thank you John , it’s certainly not easy to try to get everything right at the same time, and I’m glad I spent several days training the two buckets to Stay sitting 🤚🤣
Well done David good to see you out and about hope your not over doing it. Looks like I’m going to have to some stuff and get me a mark 2 that said there’s more daily things to play about with 🤔 you know how much I love them lol 😂 Great video mate 👍
Ah ! It’s the legendary Pete the Rat Man 🫢 Cheers matey, I’m glad you could see how they’ve improved the picture quality with the Cortina, I mean Alpex 🤣
Hi David I think your input on these products to the manufacturer is very good especially for us the end users I wonder could you use your contacts at HIKMICRO to ask if they could add a manual ballistic calculator to the old and new versions of the alpex as this would be of great benefit to us all like Pulsar has done with their C50 scope Thanks for all your inputs and efforts
Hello chap, I’ll do my best for you and everyone else that’s got the Alpex Guessometer scope 😉 There’s a new firmware update coming out soon, that I do know , as I was chatting to my technical contact last week. The best thing to do as the end user is to email HikMicro via their website and they will read your email. I’ve got 3 versions of the Lynx2 spotters arriving today for me to do a quality review on for the viewer 👍👍 Thanks very much for your support and feedback
Yes I’m sure it will, as I mentioned, there will be many other torches available that would light up the moon and beyond, and users will all have their favourite ones, that provide excellent results. Great response to the video and thanks for writing in and letting folks know about your torch choice 👍👍
Wow how good is that pard. Its hard to get your head around how good NV has become over the past 5 years. Just imagine what will be available in another 10 years. Another great video pal 👍
Well I’m looking forward to your next 4k video with that scope you went home with. Thanks for driving the 500 mile round trip to come and visit me matey , you really were very considerate to visit after BOTH surgeries !! Some folks can’t even be arsed to phone or message 🤷🏼♂️👍 Looking forward to seeing you both at your wedding and maybe here for my birthday in June 🤞🏼
Imho, the torch you used did not help at longer ranges. It didn't seem to be flood to spot. At 300, you need to tighten the beam towards spot and the image quality leaps up. The torch the mk1 came with is excellent spot to flood and adjustable power. Start on low and wide. Tighten the beam so your screen is covered and them ramp up power to a level it is clear. Also - by changing the Fstop (iris) you should also change the depth of field so close and further targets stay in focus. Finally, splitting the screen might have shown the clarity even better. Excellent vid...... 🎉🎉🎉
Hello Simon , I know there are so many ways to obtain a better picture, but I choose the Cyanski torch because that’s what I tend to use on stuff I often do. It has no adjustment on the beam at all, unlike the original torch the Alpex is supplied with. I was just trying to show the scopes performance in as simple way as possible. I’m sure with a few options, the footage would be much better indeed, with the perfect light combination. Thanks very much for watching and taking the time to write in 👍 David
I’m sure there are much better torches out there, as I mentioned. Everyone will have their own favourite torches and one that will be far better than the very basic Cyanski one I used. But I hope it shows that even with a cheaper torch , and even without one, the images can be quite spectacular.
Hello Keith , Ah yes ! I had the very same conversation with Johnny Allen this morning about this. He’s going to get a new Mk2 lrf to replace his ATN he’s been using for a few years. Andy Taylor has got one, and he LOVES it 👍
Brilliant review,I was considering the mk2,and this answers all my questions,but could you please please please do a review on the sub£1200 thermal scopes on the market now,especially the ones that can be used as a front add on.Or is there one which you’d recommend.I’d like one that can shoot rabbits out to 60yrds and foxes out to 100 cheers
Hello Simon, Ha ! Funny you say this, I’m trying so hard to borrow some thermal kit to do exactly that project. Do me a favour and email me chap, it’ll be easier to contact you then 👍
Good comparison, ive just bought the 4k version. You mention quick release mounts for gun swapping, do you find when changing to another gun and selecting the appropriate profile etc that you need to check and amend zero before shooting quarry? I only mention it because ive put mine in a sportsmatch hop 92 which is a high quality 1 pc qd mount and put picatinny rails on my 243, 223 and 22lr with the intention of using on all. Recently when i moved the scope back to the 243 from 223 and checked zero i was about 2" left and 1 high at 100m compared to when initially zerod. (Found out after missing a fox) I make sure to put it back in the same slots each time etc and select the correct profile. Is this normal or to be expected? Its not the end of the world but with the price of cf ammunition, its not ideal to be have to be checking all the time and would put me off too frequent gun swapping etc. Thanks
Hello Stephen, Good question ! I use Warne return to zero mounts on my scopes . They’re not cheap, but they do exactly what the box says . I did do a video about the mounts, using the same scope on three different rifles and proved that they did work. You’re right about making sure your scope goes back on the same picatinny slots though, if mine are going part way down the rail, I’ll put a dab of white paint on the side of the rail where the rear mount sits 👍 I have to use two piece mounts because two of my Lithgow rifles have single mounting points each side of the ejection port. Thanks for watching and your great question. David
@@predatorprotectionuk Thanks for your reply, I'll try it out some more. They sound good!, to be fair the sportsmatch mount isn't cheap either, about 140-190 depending where you buy it and it's very well made. 260 rips ( mark Ripley) demonstrated this mount on a UA-cam video successfully returning to zero and swears by them. Maybe it's because I zeroed on windy days despite trying to tuck inside a hedge out of the wind.... sometimes it's just always blowing 😂 Trouble is also, the 243 which I'm basing most of my findings on is a rifle I haven't had long, so still settling in to things and trying new ammunition, the alpex is my first digital scope too, I'm sure I'll get there🤞 I think it's just one of those, until I build up a confidence in the whole set up, I'll have to check and burn a few more cartridges.
@stephenoshea1166 make sure you’re on a good solid mount too. Bean bags and get a good three points of contact position. Front of rifle 1 Right elbow 2 Left elbow 3 No wind or if you can have it behind you would be better. Make sure all the bits that can work loose aren’t . Mounts, moderator etc…. You’ll get there 👍👍
WITHOUT ANY DOUBT ! They’ve made some huge leaps forward with this new system, and now there’s a facility to playback any footage through the viewfinder. I’ve just watched Pheasant and a Woodpecker I filmed with mine, and it’s stunning.
Honestly if you want a sharper daytime image the alpex if your a hunter at early dawn or twilight the C50 is very hard to beat at these times I have tested both side by side.
@dlz90 The BEST daytime image by a mile ( from my findings ) is my Sightmark Wraith 4 k pro. The type with built in battery. You can change the resolution on that either to full HD 60fps or really low, the choices are very good to have 👍
Amazing clarity on the MK2
Yes indeed it is, have a look at the 97-98 fox video, there is a perfect example of how good it is under a full moon
Excellent comparison video . Thanks for taking the time to put it together . I hope your recovery is going well ,well done Dave .
Hello Dewayne, thank you matey, I’m getting around a bit better now but relying on George to run me around if need be.
I’ve just reminded Robin about my Birthday in June, that invitation was for you too, but appreciate the distance involved. Johnny Allen is coming down for the weekend from Cheshire, I knew a whole roast pig would draw him out 🤣🤣🤣
Great video Dave I still can't get over how both scopes perform well on night mode without the ir before it's totally dark. Very enjoyable comparison video mate.
Thanks Jim, yes I know exactly what you mean, they are astounding for sure, I thought the Mk1 was good, but the Mk2, well you have to experience it to believe it !😳😳
@predatorprotectionuk I agree mate not that I've used mine properly yet because of the weather and other commitments.
@jimwood hurry up, the warranty will run out 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Johnny Allen ordered his yesterday 👍
@@predatorprotectionuk yeah your not wrong there 😂
Best comparison video I've seen, cheers David.
Ian , Thank you very much !
I tried really hard not to include the usual BS that some gushing paid reviewers produce. OK, so it may not be the highly polished finish, but the pictures proved the point, I hope 🤞🏼
Thanks for watching,
David
Great comparison video mate. Should help people make their minds up.
Oh yes indeed it has, I’ve already had Johnny Allen asking me to order him an Alpex Cortina for him and he’s coming down for my Birthday bash, and will collect it from here. I know it’s a long way for you and Dewayne, but you know you’re all welcome. Jo could spend the morning shopping !!! £££££🫢🫢😉
Great video, Dave. Thank you for all your time. I hope you are on the mend. 👍👍👍👍
Hello Mick, it was nice to get out for two hours mate. That’s about my limit at the moment, and I’m always accompanied, just in case something happens.
Fantastic evening footage though, even I was amazed 😳
Thanks Dave,
I also did the C50 Hik dance and agree with your comments.
Handy video as i also have both, either does the job when required and as you say, the 4k clarity and the iris, is top notch.
Shooting rabbits on a light night, a torch isn't necessary as both pick up targets due to their technology.
Hope to meet up sometime as we are both from same area.
Drop me an email chap, let’s get something sorted out
excellent comparison thanks
Thank you John , it’s certainly not easy to try to get everything right at the same time, and I’m glad I spent several days training the two buckets to Stay sitting 🤚🤣
Well done David good to see you out and about hope your not over doing it. Looks like I’m going to have to some stuff and get me a mark 2 that said there’s more daily things to play about with 🤔 you know how much I love them lol 😂 Great video mate 👍
Ah ! It’s the legendary Pete the Rat Man 🫢
Cheers matey, I’m glad you could see how they’ve improved the picture quality with the Cortina, I mean Alpex 🤣
Hi David I think your input on these products to the manufacturer is very good especially for us the end users
I wonder could you use your contacts at HIKMICRO to ask if they could add a manual ballistic calculator to the old and new versions of the alpex as this would be of great benefit to us all like Pulsar has done with their C50 scope
Thanks for all your inputs and efforts
Hello chap,
I’ll do my best for you and everyone else that’s got the Alpex Guessometer scope 😉
There’s a new firmware update coming out soon, that I do know , as I was chatting to my technical contact last week.
The best thing to do as the end user is to email HikMicro via their website and they will read your email.
I’ve got 3 versions of the Lynx2 spotters arriving today for me to do a quality review on for the viewer 👍👍
Thanks very much for your support and feedback
Great review, yes the new one is better but on a budget the old one will do the job just fine especially with a PBIR.
Yes I’m sure it will, as I mentioned, there will be many other torches available that would light up the moon and beyond, and users will all have their favourite ones, that provide excellent results.
Great response to the video and thanks for writing in and letting folks know about your torch choice 👍👍
Wow how good is that pard. Its hard to get your head around how good NV has become over the past 5 years. Just imagine what will be available in another 10 years.
Another great video pal 👍
Well I’m looking forward to your next 4k video with that scope you went home with.
Thanks for driving the 500 mile round trip to come and visit me matey , you really were very considerate to visit after BOTH surgeries !!
Some folks can’t even be arsed to phone or message 🤷🏼♂️👍
Looking forward to seeing you both at your wedding and maybe here for my birthday in June 🤞🏼
I wouldn't not come and see you pal, if I was in 100 mile from you it's just a bimble on the bike buddy.
Thanks for the taking the time seems to be a lot better picture on the 2.0
Thanks Philip for your positive feedback, that’s what makes it all worth doing, getting messages like yours .
I’m glad you found the video useful.
👍
Imho, the torch you used did not help at longer ranges. It didn't seem to be flood to spot. At 300, you need to tighten the beam towards spot and the image quality leaps up. The torch the mk1 came with is excellent spot to flood and adjustable power. Start on low and wide. Tighten the beam so your screen is covered and them ramp up power to a level it is clear.
Also - by changing the Fstop (iris) you should also change the depth of field so close and further targets stay in focus. Finally, splitting the screen might have shown the clarity even better.
Excellent vid...... 🎉🎉🎉
Hello Simon ,
I know there are so many ways to obtain a better picture, but I choose the Cyanski torch because that’s what I tend to use on stuff I often do. It has no adjustment on the beam at all, unlike the original torch the Alpex is supplied with.
I was just trying to show the scopes performance in as simple way as possible. I’m sure with a few options, the footage would be much better indeed, with the perfect light combination.
Thanks very much for watching and taking the time to write in 👍
David
Good video mate thanks
Thank you steve 👍
Your welcome my mate I'm going to have one of them scopes when they get all the updates sorted. 👍
Don’t worry about the updates Dave, they’re not correcting faults, just making improvements to the settings.
Ok mate thanks 👍
Well done my mate 👍 hope the iron work is holding up, MR D Attenborough wants to watch out.
Why, has he got a bad hip too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Dave 👍
Excellent video. 👌. Got all the info I needed. Love the idea of the door buffers on the mk1, gonna nick that. 😂👌👌.
You help yourself chum, you won’t miss that button ever again 👍
Just ordered a Mk2 but without LRF. Point blank range is good enough for my 308.
Yes, I can’t be bothered with having to press another button to find out how far it is away. Know your ground is the trick 👍
Good honest review 👍
Thanks Mark, I try to keep it real chap, after all, I’m not a paid reviewer, so if it’s rubbish, I’ll tell the viewer exactly that ! 👍
Very good old chap, very informative 🤓
I hope that’s helped you decide John , after our conversation earlier today 👍
@@predatorprotectionuk yes it has old bean 🤓
nice video. I was expecting better results but I use gen 3 so have been spoilt.
I’m sure there are much better torches out there, as I mentioned. Everyone will have their own favourite torches and one that will be far better than the very basic Cyanski one I used. But I hope it shows that even with a cheaper torch , and even without one, the images can be quite spectacular.
Nice one Dave 💥💪
Thanks very much for your support matey 👍👍
Nice video. Hope you are recovering well
Thank you chum, it’s nice having a chauffeur I must say 😉👍
@@predatorprotectionuk I bet it is. You’ll be back up and about in no time
Good video mate 👍 I'm so tempted to get the Mark 2 but my old ATN 4K is still doing the job 😂 good to see you on the mend pal👍👍
Hello Keith ,
Ah yes ! I had the very same conversation with Johnny Allen this morning about this. He’s going to get a new Mk2 lrf to replace his ATN he’s been using for a few years. Andy Taylor has got one, and he LOVES it 👍
Brilliant review,I was considering the mk2,and this answers all my questions,but could you please please please do a review on the sub£1200 thermal scopes on the market now,especially the ones that can be used as a front add on.Or is there one which you’d recommend.I’d like one that can shoot rabbits out to 60yrds and foxes out to 100 cheers
Hello Simon,
Ha ! Funny you say this, I’m trying so hard to borrow some thermal kit to do exactly that project.
Do me a favour and email me chap, it’ll be easier to contact you then 👍
Great Vid mate.
Cheers matey👍👍
love it @19:29 you see a fox come in to shot at the top talking to wards the rabbits :P
Thank you very much for watching, I’m out at the moment and have not seen a single one in 4 hours 🤷🏼♂️
@@predatorprotectionuk it happens i was out for 2 weeks with out seeing 1 on different grounds. keep it up
Good comparison, ive just bought the 4k version. You mention quick release mounts for gun swapping, do you find when changing to another gun and selecting the appropriate profile etc that you need to check and amend zero before shooting quarry?
I only mention it because ive put mine in a sportsmatch hop 92 which is a high quality 1 pc qd mount and put picatinny rails on my 243, 223 and 22lr with the intention of using on all.
Recently when i moved the scope back to the 243 from 223 and checked zero i was about 2" left and 1 high at 100m compared to when initially zerod. (Found out after missing a fox)
I make sure to put it back in the same slots each time etc and select the correct profile.
Is this normal or to be expected?
Its not the end of the world but with the price of cf ammunition, its not ideal to be have to be checking all the time and would put me off too frequent gun swapping etc.
Thanks
Hello Stephen,
Good question !
I use Warne return to zero mounts on my scopes . They’re not cheap, but they do exactly what the box says .
I did do a video about the mounts, using the same scope on three different rifles and proved that they did work.
You’re right about making sure your scope goes back on the same picatinny slots though, if mine are going part way down the rail, I’ll put a dab of white paint on the side of the rail where the rear mount sits 👍
I have to use two piece mounts because two of my Lithgow rifles have single mounting points each side of the ejection port.
Thanks for watching and your great question.
David
@@predatorprotectionuk Thanks for your reply, I'll try it out some more.
They sound good!, to be fair the sportsmatch mount isn't cheap either, about 140-190 depending where you buy it and it's very well made.
260 rips ( mark Ripley) demonstrated this mount on a UA-cam video successfully returning to zero and swears by them.
Maybe it's because I zeroed on windy days despite trying to tuck inside a hedge out of the wind.... sometimes it's just always blowing 😂
Trouble is also, the 243 which I'm basing most of my findings on is a rifle I haven't had long, so still settling in to things and trying new ammunition, the alpex is my first digital scope too, I'm sure I'll get there🤞
I think it's just one of those, until I build up a confidence in the whole set up, I'll have to check and burn a few more cartridges.
@stephenoshea1166 make sure you’re on a good solid mount too.
Bean bags and get a good three points of contact position.
Front of rifle 1
Right elbow 2
Left elbow 3
No wind or if you can have it behind you would be better.
Make sure all the bits that can work loose aren’t .
Mounts, moderator etc….
You’ll get there 👍👍
@@predatorprotectionuk 👍👍👍
Hi David, interesting review, would you recommend selling a C50 and upgrading to the Alpex LRF would it be that much better…🤔😉
WITHOUT ANY DOUBT !
They’ve made some huge leaps forward with this new system, and now there’s a facility to playback any footage through the viewfinder.
I’ve just watched Pheasant and a Woodpecker I filmed with mine, and it’s stunning.
Thanks David…been getting that feeling from the UA-cam boys🤔 think I will bit the bullet and get the Alex LRF…keep the videos coming👍
Thanks John, well we can’t all be wrong can we ?😉
Honestly if you want a sharper daytime image the alpex if your a hunter at early dawn or twilight the C50 is very hard to beat at these times I have tested both side by side.
@dlz90
The BEST daytime image by a mile ( from my findings ) is my Sightmark Wraith 4 k pro. The type with built in battery. You can change the resolution on that either to full HD 60fps or really low, the choices are very good to have 👍
Do you present a similar vid' showing the same HIK models with & without IR fitted?