This was brilliant! I used to use Panniers and I was suprised at how much you could fit in them and for anything extra I would hang them from the handlebars. Then on my next bike I didn't want Panniers so I got the large front basket from Wald and man that was one of the best purchases I ever bought. It was large enough to hold two 12 packs relatively flat and I also loved it because it was always easy to carry my oversized bike lock in, I paired it with a bike with those handles with what looks like horns sticking up at the end and those were useful because I no longer had to worry about the bags potentially slipping off the handlebars. For my newest bike I've decided to combine both of my previous methods along with some trial and error to create something magical. I started with a new Folding Ebike. Then I attached two Wald Folding baskets to the back because they are small, well reviewed and low which is important to me but also because I'm a bit sentimental and having two folding Walds on the back seems like a fitting tribute to the large one that served me so well all those years. I knew that I still wanted some sort of rack or basket on the front but because of the odd shape of my bike and because I wanted whatever that was on the front of my bike to look badass I found a small basket of a different kind to put on the front. It's a thick basket and it has a cover. It was designed for a smaller ebike (much smalller than mine) and It's infinitely smaller than the old wald but it's large enough to carry a carryout container and it looks tough. And last but not least the thing I'm most proud of is the repurposed folding grocery carrier I permanently mounted to the rear rack. I ordered every black grocery carrier on Amazon and compared them all to figure out which would be best for the job. I narrowed It down to two. One that had a prettier outside and one that had an ingenious structure mechanism. I went with the better structured one and vowed to customize it to make it look awesome. It's the carrier I expect to use the least but it's awesome because when folded down it measures less than 2 inches which makes it easy to swing my leg over which was my biggest requirement but also it's waterproof(?), it's larger than any bike trunk you can buy and because it's temperature regulated. I haven't actually taken it grocery shopping yet because I'm still in the process of customizing/repainting the bike in order to make it more attractive to thieves I guess.
I'm pinning your comment because there's so much specific info here others can benefit from. I think what I'm gathering is that you're customizing your bike to fit your needs exactly - which is perfect. This sometimes takes a while, but well worth it in the end. Thank you for sharing the details!
Good video. I have one fixed gear bike I use for all my everyday requirements. Food shopping. Doctor. UPS, USPS, etc. I used to use a large North Face backpack for food shopping. Limited room. I broke down, and installed a Topeak rear rack and Topeak expandable bag with panniers. I decided to do this as I live upstairs, no elevator. Also, when I get to the store, I push the button releasing the bag and carry it in. Bag goes in shopping cart. When done paying, shopping cart w food & bag come outside with me. Topeak bag slides on rack. Open panniers, pack groceries , and away I go. So much better than the backpack. As added bonus, the center of gravity is lower. Your burley bag is even superior in that it probably holds as much or more than my set up. And....again, lower C.G. Thankyou for short, concise, no "fluff" video product review. 👍
It seems like everyone that has a UA-cam channel and owns the Burley Travoy has to make this video, but yours is the best I've seen yet. It really captures the experience of grocery shopping by bike and hopefully will inspire someone to do this instead of using their car. As a side note, I would go back for the kale also.
Thank you for the kind comment. Capturing a pretty mundane experience (grocery shopping is not overly exciting) was a good challenge for me. How to show the task, feature the took and "tell a story"? Kale - it's a daily staple for me, I don't know how I forgot it. 😂
I just want to say a massive thank you for this video. Since in Ireland there is nobody selling these travoy trailer I would have never known about them.
I wish I knew how to add a pic but went shopping today with the trailer and lower market bag cause still waiting on the upper market to come. I used a 25 liter cooler bag and it was perfect. It was amazing even on the Irish roads 👍😊 it handles so well.
I used to use a regular collapsible bike trailer for mine. The type that hooks to a bracket on the rear wheel axle (I preferred this way because it was easier to hike the leg over the bike to get on). But then I bought a trike and replaced the basket with a wood bed. I have a basket on the handlebars for bread and other light, crushable things. Heavy stuff like juice goes in the bed over the axle, and then lighter stuff goes behind that towards the back. The trailer method was ok, but in winter it tended to catch a lot of snow, slush, and grime (and so did the grocery bags). All my bikes were either motorized, or now have ebike kits installed
Thanks for sharing. Using panniers and a small insulated backpack, I bicycled home 5 miles including some uphill recently, and I am 64. It is amazing how much one can actually carry. I once bicycled home with a 20 pound watermelon in one of my pannier.
I really like the trailer used in this video. I have a plastic crate that fits well on my rear rack. I hold it in place with bungie cords. It holds groceries safely.
Great video and narration! After a couple years of “waiting for another day”, I finally took advantage of Burley’s 20%-off sale to purchase my Travoy, market bags, and rain cover. I live aboard my sailboat, and while I have a vehicle in the marina parking lot, I’d like to increasingly ride my Brompton with Travoy for groceries, gym, post office, and longer multi-modal trips aboard trains and ferries. When I eventually depart for foreign shores, my Brompton and Travoy will serve as my sole means of land transportation, and stow concisely below decks while underway.
Amazing that you were able to get the items at the discounted price. That'd be considerable savings. Thank you for sharing how the Travoy supplements your lifestyle, which allows you to leverage multimodal transport.
I love my Burley Travoy trailer. I've got the original version, I've had it for some years. That you can take it into the supermarket is excellent and in fact I regularly shop from Waitrose in the UK where I live. They have a system where you scan the goods yourself, other supermarkets do this as well. With the Travoy I scan the goods as I pack it and then I don't have to take the goods out of the trailer until I get home. Really it is very neat and simple way to do the shopping.
Now that gas prices have blasted into the stratosphere I think more people will consider what you just demonstrated in the video. I know I certainly will. At the moment I have a folding bike which gets folded then put on top of a shopping cart and in I go to shop. I get a few strange looks but this way I'm sure my bike won't get stolen (huge problem where I live) while I'm shopping.
Hello, from Surrey BC! Wheels on a Bike, than you for sharing your Canadian shopping experience. I'm impressed by the amount of Canadian biking content. Thank you.
@@WheelsonaBike I just thought of something that you might enjoy trying: maybe record yourself taking a bike trip in Toronto using side streets that connect well to short paths in parks and pleasant walkable streets. I'd like to do this for my neighbourhood, because I noticed that we have something like this, which would normally be neglected, because it isn't a bike path. I discovered this, when finding suggestions for improvements for a project that my city started.
the handlebar mitts are absolutely adorable. Never seen something like that before. Amazing to keep your fingers alive during cold weather. Most gloves never really block the freezing wind.
Travoy is an excellent trailer..just got back from a bike camping trip. Kept 50 lbs of gear off my rear axle, great balance, and no wider than my handlebars.
Thanks for sharing this. Many people have asked me if I'd take the Travoy on your and I said that I wouldn't, but I'm glad to see a different perspective reflected in your comment.
I made a trailer with 24" wheels and an old plastic container from Safeway. The tongue of the trailer fits on a "U-bolt" that is attached to the end of my rear rack. The tongue has an "eye bolt" at the end that fits over the U-bolt to give me a complete range of motion so there are no binds. I can get 6 shopping bags in it, but usually only care four, as there is just me to feed.
Thank you very much for your videos. I am fond of cycling and I am learning English, for these two reasons I love to watch your videos. very happy year 2022 to all.
I used one of those regular folding wireframe shopping totes with the plastic wheels. I made an extension bar to connect the tote to the bike. It rides tilted like yours. I put better quality wheels on. An easy and cheap job. Your system is nicer and probably rides better but mine holds a lot more stuff. I've had it loaded to the brim with heavy stuff like drinks, rice, flour, cans... I love pushing it to the limit. Oh, I have an ebike so no effort on my part to ride it, even going up steep hills. Except for the ebike, It's a really cheap and effective setup. Also have a pannier for more fragile stuff like eggs.
I think that if you can and know how to DIY things, then there are more cost effective solutions like yours that will become available. If you're not into DIY then you pay for things.
the Travoy is really great for shopping. I've had mine for years. I found these elastic cargo nets with loops that are fantastic for holding larger items to the trailer
Nice. I plan to use the double kids bike trailer for grocery shopping as it has much bigger 2 x 20” wheels and can fit both kids and plenty of shopping at back and at their feet.
This trailer was made for groceries, laundry ect great trailer ,each trailer is made for a specific purpose, for example I use a cargo trailer for cross-country ,it's wide base,low center of gravity and balance is 2/3 on the back of trailer,,
@@WheelsonaBike mine is a custom made trailer, and my custom panniers racks are custom to,had them welded by a friend, I could not find a trailer or rack system built for tours without spending high dollar
@@WheelsonaBike normal use any good trailer will work for daily tasks, the good trailer system that tour people use are custom or high end single track system, due to the amount of time I spend on tour, I had to get a system made for my bike, good to have friends who weld
Nice video! Running errands on a bicycle is so much fun (and very convenient!) in my opinion :-). When I first tried a grocery run on my bicycle, I used our burley child trailer. It's amazing how much it can hold! I didn't realize it for months, but the "seat" in there unclips and lays flat, making it a nice large covered flatbed trailer 🎉. You can pick them up pretty inexpensively as well; I just saw a decent one at Goodwill for $16. These days, I'm taking a Yuba Mundo cargo bicycle to the store; it has a large basket in the front and two paniers in the back each large enough to fit my 6 y.o. entirely in lol.
Thank you for sharing this. I admire your dedication to incorporating your bike into everyday errands. I've been using panniers for shopping runs but just got a Burley dog trailer and it is really fun taking my 5 month old pup out for a ride. Best of wishes for 22!
Thank you for watching. Going places by bike is the most time efficient way of getting where I need to go for me. I hope you enjoy the Burley Dog trailer. How does you dog like it? What's the riding experience like?
@@WheelsonaBike Currently, we only ride 5-6 km's before he wants to bust out, but he climbs in the trailer without hesitation and seems to like it. As a 35 pound pup, I can definitely feel the trailer back there, it's a good work out!
When we didn’t have a car, I used to do a week’s shopping on my bike with 2 large panniers and I made my own trailer out of a normal shopping trolley (as used by old ladies mainly) strapped onto the back of my bike rack with a couple of toe straps. I has 12% climb on the way home, so was glad of the low gears on my bike. Now I tend to shop more often so just use panniers, but we also have a dog trailer if I need to do a big shop with the bike.
I've seen a similar solution on bikes here as well - the shopping trolley. Panniers or a dog trailer would work very well as well, I think. It's good to have options.
Hello! Thank you for this cool video. I watched it and was inspired. I have grocery shopped on my bike. I have mainly done it with my back pack. You can get a good couple bags worth in the back pack, plus a couple light things can hang from handle bar. BUT, now I have recently gotten a used schwinn pet trailer, which I can carry a LOT in! I can get as many things like boxes of soda waters, bags of potatoes, stock up on cans, etc, as much as I can want. I will use the back pack mainly but also get the trailer out if I want to do a big shop. Its great to know I really can get all my needs now, self reliant in my car-free life. :)
@@WheelsonaBike I think if I lived in a smaller town with less bike theft I would feel more safe about using bike and trailer for grocery's etc but Windsor like many places is terrible for bike theft and I feel to anxious when I am in the store. Most things here are easily within walking distance so I usually walk.
Right, I see your point. In your case you'd need to lock up both the bike and the trailer (if you took it along) and that'd already give it more visibility. It's great you have walking access to most places you need to get to.
Cool video, I used my bike trailer for groceries for the first time today, a kid carrier style one, I can unhitch it & use it in stroller mode instead of a shopping trolley 🚴
Now if the store was one of those cashier-less , item tracker types, would be even better. No need to unload. What a great rig, looks very well engineered. China copy coming in 3...2...1 You have great presentation skills, thought you'd hit 1K for new years. Gotta convert the view counts into subs. I think a LIVE on bike broadcast from the mean streets of Toronto would be slick.
Now that would be ideal! One day... Re: your comment about subscriber count - that would've been nice, but I'm thrilled to be super close. I love that people are watching the videos, and engaging via comments. That, to me, is well worth the effort it takes to produce these videos. That and the constant learning! So - thank you for your support! I'm not sure I could pull off a live, on bike broadcast. That would be a total disaster. 😂😂😂
@@WheelsonaBike even funnier? If you done a fake shop, with cheetos, fruit loops, coke, ice cream- all the bad stuff.... the Kale was just too perfect. That must have been raw honey for $15 ! Make a cake for the 1K sub event, its coming.
You're super funny. Maybe that should be my Costco haul video. Buy all the junk. Making a cake, just like hosting a live stream would be a similar disaster. Maybe I should combine the two. 😂
That is a well designed trailer. The first time I saw it I thought it was a bit of an oddity. However, the overall length of bike with trailer is very short. I have shopped with a trailer before and the length has caused problems, this trailer would be not problem. Also the fact that you unhitch it and take it with you is very good.
This is the very first bike trailer I've owned and ridden with. Before I purchased it, I did see someone else use it in town and had a chat about it with them.
Nice! You can see a video of my homemade bike trailer on my channel. I converted a double children's trailer. The finished article has a larger volume capacity than a supermarket trolley. I'm not able to wheel it round inside the store though like yours!
I absolutely love the Travoy concept. Only thing thats hold me back in buying one is my pannierrack. I can nowhere find the exact extended lenght of the tube from the seatpost to the handle of the Travoy. I'm scared my pannierrack is keeping the Travoy from turning.
My big question is whether you have ever gotten approached by supermarket security for placing items you haven't paid for yet inside a personal trolley. I could imagine that some supermarkets might have policies against this, or ask you to use the carts they provide while shopping, which would make the Travoy an additional burden to wheel around with your shopping cart.
Never. These types of shopping trolleys are very commonly used in Canada and people wheel them around when grocery shopping all the time. There was a brief period when external bags were not permitted during the pandemic, but that ended and now everyone is back shopping with their reusable bags and trolleys.
I carry my Travoy in my small plane, alongside my Montague folder bike. I carry 8 to 12 gallons on car gas on it, as I don't need or want to burn Avgas. It saves me about 2 bucks a gallon, so it has paid for itself many times over.
I have a Carry Freedom small Y trailer that I have been using since April 2015. Fitted with a 48 litre "Really Useful Box with lid". Not so easy to handle off the bike as the Burley but very stable with either light or bulky load. The local people in the village are now quite used to seeing me with it, but I hear the occasional "look at that" comment from tourists as I pass by! Large light items like 20 pack of toilet rolls, or crate with twenty half litre bottles of beer, can easily be strapped on top of the box with all other grocery items inside. It is best not to leave it unattended with a crate of full beer bottles on top though! I did mange to roll it once being a bit too ambitious with speed over a kerb on a corner. Fortunately no damage to either equipment or contents. Can't shop as quick as you because it is not suitable to use in the shop. I think of it as a car boot (trunk). And no, I wouldn't go back round the shop for kale!
Thank you for sharing this. I think most trailers, even ones I see in town are flatbed. Those are the most functional. It's incredible how much you can carry and also funny to hear how amazed people are, just because you're pulling something by bike. I laughed when I read your kale comment. 🤣
I think that's a great solution. Panniers worked for me for a long while. The trailer has a cover and that protects everything from the slush spraying up. The wheels can handle slush, fresh snow, not so much. I don't typically ride on snow, unless it's hard packed. I typically ride on roads and trails that have been cleared or received winter grooming.
Very good idea to use the trailer as the shopping trolley, and avoid overbuying beyond what you can carry. I am looking to use the Burley Coho for this, but it is not so easy with that model. Make a front handle for it and use it like a wheel-barrow?
I shop weekly for groceries and use large panniers typically loading up to 15 kilos. Part of my route takes me over walking bridges and a dirt canal path. I don’t believe the trailer would do well in this route. I also like that with a panniers, the bike is still fairly maneuverable unencumbered by a trailer. My panniers are waterproof so I don’t have to mess with a cover. The advantage with this trailer though is its dual purpose serving as a shopping cart which is nice. And I’m in a townhouse so there are no stairs or elevators to contend with. Of course, trailers have a much higher loading capacity so you can put much more weight than panniers. Bakfiets is an option that is seen more in the Netherlands.
Thanks for this helpful video - I'm riding 100 miles in just over a week to pick up a Travoy trailer for a bargain £80 for my mum. Sorry what you and your fellow riders are going through in Toronto with Doug Ford, hope it all works out in the end.
I like the trailer its a good design, I shop for two people and cook a lot so the trailer looks a little small for me and the price is a little high,, thanks for the video
Salut . C'est vrais que ta remorque est bien pratique , elle est compact et la fixation au vélo est facile . Moi j'utilise une remorque mono roue de la marque EXTRAWHEEL , mais je ne peux pas la prendre à la main dans les magasins , alors elle reste accrochée à mon vélo en permanence " C'est dommage ! " Merci pour ta superbe vidéo et bonne nouvelle année mon amie . A bientôt . Le Coyote .
Happy New Year to you as well. And yes, there are many trailers that can be used for this purpose. I got this one as I saw someone else using it and thought it was a fantastic concept. But in the end, the purpose is the same, to carry items. Pros and cons to everything.
Just now watched Ryan Van Duzer's "Nude Food" video for the first time! Come on "bicycle popularity!" Everyone, get onto bicycles/tricycles! FWIW: Globally, we may have no choice but to get onto bikes/trikes, both family & cargo!!!
Burley trailers are good apart from water spraying up from wheels when its wet , I made side protectors for mine, I've the older model and the bag it comes with rubs on wheels , its an ok design but has a few faults
Thanks for sharing. Water spraying up is not a big problem in this model. I think there's more spray from my wheel onto to trailer than from the trailer wheels themselves.
At 2:17, _"I'm actually a bit surprised that there isn't a bike lockup area just outside of the grocery store itself, but..."_ I'm actually a bit surprised that your bike is still there when you come out of the store ;-) Good video.
@@WheelsonaBike, it takes less than 5 minutes with an angle grinder. I take my pedals off and remove my seat if I park my Devinci (locked of course) for any length of time.
@@WheelsonaBike, just an FYI: last fall, I saw a guy escorting his carbon fibre Devince road bike (C$3k w/tax) down the isle of a big-box grocery store, while carrying a hand basket in the other hand.
I believe it! I've taken my gravel bike inside a cafe before. Apparently it's a thing people do - I was super uncomfortable, but nobody stole my "nice bike".
I have a question. I made my own ebike conversion. Of course ebikes are heavier and mine is 40lbs more weight near the rear. I see many people in the stores here bring their bikes inside the store with them and shop. I am no where near comfortable locking my bike up outside. With this in mind I flip out my rear basket (they fold up tight and are auto unfold) and throw things into one or both if needed. I find this quite awkward though. Reaching into cooler doors or anything that requires 2 hands my bike wants to fight me and lay down because of all that extra weight. I am wondering if a rear kickstand next to the back wheel will help with this. Currently I have a center one that is a duel /\ style that is very stable BUT I can' keep it down while its rolling. It would be nice if there was one that had wheels on it :) Any ideas?
Unfortunately, this is always a problem for all bike's, e or otherwise. If you can remove your battery easily, take it with you. I have an ordinary basic pedal power only bike and when I'm leaving it where I'm not comfortable I have a 2 metre long diamond rated chain and lock (gold rated if it's used on a motorbike) plus a heavy D lock. The two weigh in at over 8kgs. They're not a guarantee but they would certainly make a potential thief work for the bike if they really wanted it. Although it would defeat the purpose of the heavy duty locks if whatever I locked them to was much easier to cut instead. On an e-bike, an additional 8kg would be unnoticeable and take your battery with you. Have a backpack with you always just for that. It also depends a lot on where you park up your bike. I understand your concern. Fear of theft is a greater deterrent to more people using bike's or especially e-bike's than infrastructure or safety. You can park up a €70k Tesla in a supermarket car park all day and all night with infinite more confidence than you would lock up a €2k e-bike even with a couple of good quality heavy duty locks. 🥺 Be brave. And maybe also be insured!
first and foremost, this is an excellent review, thank you so much! i've got myself a travoy after watching your video. I am worried about the quality of the trailer itself, especially the fabric as it gives me a feeling that it is easy to tear apart? i would like to seek for your advice / thoughts on it for long term use. in addition, the upper / lower market bag is too expensive (approx. $150 each)... i've got the accessory clips / strap from burley and decided to hook on the grocery shopping bag instead. it's cool to see u film this review in Toronto and shopping at Sobeys :) thanks again for the review.
Excellent to know you also purchased the trailer. The fabric has not torn, I know it looks like it might, but I've had no issues and I use the trailer often to carry various items. Making your own bags is a good idea. Definitely cost effective.
Awesome video indeed! But I live in suburban area, where the bicyclists are still treated like the white crows/wackos, and still thinking which trailer to choose. Nomad or Travoy🤔With vegan greetings🙏🏻🍀💚
Do you think it would work well, for just groceries independent of using it on a bicycle? I’m thinking about buying one for my bicycle but there are times I might use it simply for grocery shopping and the Metro Bus.
It would work, but keep in mind that it will be heavier than a regular trolley. But it would definitely work without a bicycle and I have also used it on its own.
No. We don't typically have to ask permission to wheel trolleys in to a store. Do you need permission where you're at? Or is it because of the pandemic? There were restrictions specific to bringing reusable bags last year, but those are no longer in place. Happy 2022 to you as well!
@@WheelsonaBike it's very unusual in the UK to see people using personal bags when in the shop. It looks very suspicious, almost like going around the shop with a big raincoat on and putting everything in your pockets. An older woman might be ok doing it but I wouldn't like to try it. I'd only use the panniers after going through the checkout, nothing to do with COVID. How's the Kona sutra doing, I bought mine a year ago but due to circumstances haven't used it yet.
Oh wow! It's highly encouraged here to use reusable bags and this includes trolleys while shopping. There was a brief pause on this due to the pandemic measures, but it quickly reverted back to normal. We also don't have security in the stores. The Sutra made it out yesterday, first time this season. Spring is on its way! I hope you enjoy riding the bike! Something to look forward to.
Thanks. Just filled up my car with gas. $106USD. Most of my driving is short trips to the local grocer and drug store. After a couple of knee surgeries, I've gotten lazy/complacent and just kept using the car. I was going to upcycle (pun intended) an old wheelbarrow, but the price of metal and parts is insane right now.
@@WheelsonaBike We had a lot of snow in Michigan this year and there have been lots of people cross country skiing, it looks like so much fun! If enough snow was guaranteed every year I'd really consider buying some.
We've also had more snow in Toronto this year, but also a lot of fluctuating weather. Having said that, I've seen many people cross country skiing in the city. It's great to see!
No idea, but maybe someone has already thought of this. Keep Googling. I also don't know if they sell the attachment arms separately, but Burley does sell replacement parts, so maybe.
I had to rewatch the video as I don't have a front rack on this bike. I think you're asking about the basket? It's part of the handlebars. Evo Brooklyn fortnine.ca/en/evo-brooklyn-handlebar-bicycle-basket-720566-01?gclid=CjwKCAjw_uGmBhBREiwAeOfsd1rU5-pz1W0WWm0FBILMG-SarqPXKHa_sdE3eKhYyKIoMTWBDN03aRoC1yoQAvD_BwE
Thank you for such a quick reply yes I meant the basket I couldn't think what the correct name for it was. So since it is part of the bikes frame it is not something you could installl on another bike. I have seen similar baskets which can be bought separately and then install on a bike as long as the frame is compatible. I just particularly liked the look of the basket shown in the video. Can I also ask are you still using the trailer feature in the video and if so how is it holding up?
You're welcome. I realize I didn't answer your other question. Yes! I still use the trailer and I've had no problems with it so far. It's a great workhorse.
That's a balaclava, not a mask, and I wear it in winter to keep myself warm. If you commented on the fact that it's not a proper mask I was wearing inside, during a pandemic, you'd be making a good point. The face cover part has ventilation holes to help with moisture accumulation.
If you need things super cold, then I'd take a portable, lined (lunch type) bag. I've never had to keep things ice cold, and ice cream lasts just fine without the extra lined bag, as I don't live too far away from the grocery store.
Take a chilled goods bag with you and put all of your frozen goods in it together. They will stay frozen for a long time. Unless you live in Death Valley? Do you live in Death Valley?
I'm not sure what a Costco sized case of water bottles looks like, but if it wouldn't fit on the trailer, I'd go with Auto Share and bring it by car. I use the best tool I have available for the job, and if what I have in terms of bike setup won't cut it, I'll rent a car for a couple of hours.
Yes, it does attach to mine ebike as well. Some ebikes have a different seatpost, but as long as the seatpost falls within the suggested measurements, and it's round, it will fit.
Would be nice (for cyclists) to be able to take their bike equipped with baskets or panniers, say, inside a grocery store so you wouldn't have to lock up your bicycle outside and risk having it get stolen.
@@WheelsonaBikeYou are right. As currently engineered, bikes make poor in-store shopping carts. Engineers, however, could create a simple device to make a bicycle much less clunky. And yes, secure storage in front would be great! Unfortunately, this type of security is almost non-existent especially in cities. As you know, bikes are stolen left-and-right. So, what to do, as commercial stores probably see little to no benefits in setting up and maintaining secure lock up facilities for bikes? I expect nothing to change in this regard anytime soon, which is why I believe cyclists need to be allowed to shop inside with their two-wheeler that's been adapted specifically for this purpose. I've even dreamed of starting a business, could be mobile, to secure peoples’ bikes while shopping. Maybe someone will read this and make millions with such a business venture ☺
@@jolly7728 I use my Brompton, either folded to “trolley mode”, or completely folded and placed in a shopping cart. I won’t shop where my Brompton is relegated to unsecured storage.
@@swashfrogsailor Yes, that’s definitely a great way to go if stores allow it. Wish I had such a nice foldable bike. Not so sure they’d allow it in most supermarket in the states. And I do hope there is such a thing as secure parking. For me, the ideal way forward would be to simply take my basic touring bike with me into a store. I do realize grocery stores aren’t currently setup for this. A minor change would solve the problem-they could get rid of all the products saturated with refined sugar to open up enough floor space for customers with bikes in tow😊
😲😱 I'm Irish and I can't say I noticed anything other than a very eloquent blend of perfect North American Canadian English and a very slight touch of Polish or Eastern European. Maybe there are some similar inflections in the Ontarion accent?
This was brilliant! I used to use Panniers and I was suprised at how much you could fit in them and for anything extra I would hang them from the handlebars. Then on my next bike I didn't want Panniers so I got the large front basket from Wald and man that was one of the best purchases I ever bought. It was large enough to hold two 12 packs relatively flat and I also loved it because it was always easy to carry my oversized bike lock in, I paired it with a bike with those handles with what looks like horns sticking up at the end and those were useful because I no longer had to worry about the bags potentially slipping off the handlebars. For my newest bike I've decided to combine both of my previous methods along with some trial and error to create something magical. I started with a new Folding Ebike. Then I attached two Wald Folding baskets to the back because they are small, well reviewed and low which is important to me but also because I'm a bit sentimental and having two folding Walds on the back seems like a fitting tribute to the large one that served me so well all those years. I knew that I still wanted some sort of rack or basket on the front but because of the odd shape of my bike and because I wanted whatever that was on the front of my bike to look badass I found a small basket of a different kind to put on the front. It's a thick basket and it has a cover. It was designed for a smaller ebike (much smalller than mine) and It's infinitely smaller than the old wald but it's large enough to carry a carryout container and it looks tough. And last but not least the thing I'm most proud of is the repurposed folding grocery carrier I permanently mounted to the rear rack. I ordered every black grocery carrier on Amazon and compared them all to figure out which would be best for the job. I narrowed It down to two. One that had a prettier outside and one that had an ingenious structure mechanism. I went with the better structured one and vowed to customize it to make it look awesome. It's the carrier I expect to use the least but it's awesome because when folded down it measures less than 2 inches which makes it easy to swing my leg over which was my biggest requirement but also it's waterproof(?), it's larger than any bike trunk you can buy and because it's temperature regulated. I haven't actually taken it grocery shopping yet because I'm still in the process of customizing/repainting the bike in order to make it more attractive to thieves I guess.
I'm pinning your comment because there's so much specific info here others can benefit from. I think what I'm gathering is that you're customizing your bike to fit your needs exactly - which is perfect. This sometimes takes a while, but well worth it in the end. Thank you for sharing the details!
@@WheelsonaBike can’t think of anyone better to have shared it with :)
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I have one fixed gear bike I use for all my everyday requirements. Food shopping. Doctor. UPS, USPS, etc.
I used to use a large North Face backpack for food shopping. Limited room.
I broke down, and installed a Topeak rear rack and Topeak expandable bag with panniers.
I decided to do this as I live upstairs, no elevator. Also, when I get to the store, I push the button releasing the bag and carry it in. Bag goes in shopping cart.
When done paying, shopping cart w food & bag come outside with me. Topeak bag slides on rack. Open panniers, pack groceries , and away I go.
So much better than the backpack.
As added bonus, the center of gravity is lower.
Your burley bag is even superior in that it probably holds as much or more than my set up. And....again, lower C.G.
Thankyou for short, concise, no "fluff" video product review. 👍
Finally some one shows the trailer during a ride... Thanks
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
It seems like everyone that has a UA-cam channel and owns the Burley Travoy has to make this video, but yours is the best I've seen yet. It really captures the experience of grocery shopping by bike and hopefully will inspire someone to do this instead of using their car. As a side note, I would go back for the kale also.
Thank you for the kind comment. Capturing a pretty mundane experience (grocery shopping is not overly exciting) was a good challenge for me. How to show the task, feature the took and "tell a story"? Kale - it's a daily staple for me, I don't know how I forgot it. 😂
Well, this inspires me, but I need to find a way to store the bike at home. Hopefully soon.
I just want to say a massive thank you for this video. Since in Ireland there is nobody selling these travoy trailer I would have never known about them.
You're welcome. Maybe there's a better trailer sold in Ireland? Some markets have comparable products.
I wish I knew how to add a pic but went shopping today with the trailer and lower market bag cause still waiting on the upper market to come. I used a 25 liter cooler bag and it was perfect. It was amazing even on the Irish roads 👍😊 it handles so well.
@aoife6876 I'm very glad to hear that!
I used to use a regular collapsible bike trailer for mine. The type that hooks to a bracket on the rear wheel axle (I preferred this way because it was easier to hike the leg over the bike to get on). But then I bought a trike and replaced the basket with a wood bed. I have a basket on the handlebars for bread and other light, crushable things. Heavy stuff like juice goes in the bed over the axle, and then lighter stuff goes behind that towards the back. The trailer method was ok, but in winter it tended to catch a lot of snow, slush, and grime (and so did the grocery bags). All my bikes were either motorized, or now have ebike kits installed
Thanks for sharing. Using panniers and a small insulated backpack, I bicycled home 5 miles including some uphill recently, and I am 64. It is amazing how much one can actually carry. I once bicycled home with a 20 pound watermelon in one of my pannier.
I really like the trailer used in this video. I have a plastic crate that fits well on my rear rack. I hold it in place with bungie cords. It holds groceries safely.
I like the plastic crate idea. Where did you get the crate - I'm looking to source one to carry my dog.
Brilliant. I do all my shopping using my bike and panniers. Got to get this trailer. 👍😁
Great video and narration! After a couple years of “waiting for another day”, I finally took advantage of Burley’s 20%-off sale to purchase my Travoy, market bags, and rain cover. I live aboard my sailboat, and while I have a vehicle in the marina parking lot, I’d like to increasingly ride my Brompton with Travoy for groceries, gym, post office, and longer multi-modal trips aboard trains and ferries.
When I eventually depart for foreign shores, my Brompton and Travoy will serve as my sole means of land transportation, and stow concisely below decks while underway.
Amazing that you were able to get the items at the discounted price. That'd be considerable savings. Thank you for sharing how the Travoy supplements your lifestyle, which allows you to leverage multimodal transport.
I love my Burley Travoy trailer. I've got the original version, I've had it for some years. That you can take it into the supermarket is excellent and in fact I regularly shop from Waitrose in the UK where I live. They have a system where you scan the goods yourself, other supermarkets do this as well. With the Travoy I scan the goods as I pack it and then I don't have to take the goods out of the trailer until I get home. Really it is very neat and simple way to do the shopping.
That's a great system! Thank you for sharing. Glad to know the original is still going strong for you.
Now that gas prices have blasted into the stratosphere I think more people will consider what you just demonstrated in the video. I know I certainly will. At the moment I have a folding bike which gets folded then put on top of a shopping cart and in I go to shop. I get a few strange looks but this way I'm sure my bike won't get stolen (huge problem where I live) while I'm shopping.
I'd love to get a folding bike in the future. I can see so many use cases for one. Glad you find yours useful.
Hello, from Surrey BC!
Wheels on a Bike, than you for sharing your Canadian shopping experience. I'm impressed by the amount of Canadian biking content.
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
@@WheelsonaBike I just thought of something that you might enjoy trying: maybe record yourself taking a bike trip in Toronto using side streets that connect well to short paths in parks and pleasant walkable streets.
I'd like to do this for my neighbourhood, because I noticed that we have something like this, which would normally be neglected, because it isn't a bike path. I discovered this, when finding suggestions for improvements for a project that my city started.
Thank you for the idea.
the handlebar mitts are absolutely adorable. Never seen something like that before. Amazing to keep your fingers alive during cold weather. Most gloves never really block the freezing wind.
Travoy is an excellent trailer..just got back from a bike camping trip.
Kept 50 lbs of gear off my rear axle, great balance, and no wider than my handlebars.
Thanks for sharing this. Many people have asked me if I'd take the Travoy on your and I said that I wouldn't, but I'm glad to see a different perspective reflected in your comment.
Thanks a lot! 🤗 Your video was very helpful and I ordered the trailer.
Greetings from Germany 😊🌞
That's excellent to hear. I hope you like it and get a lot of use out of it.
Thanks for showing me the Burley Travoy bicycle trailer . I'm going to get one for Glens Falls NY
Wonderful. I hope you like it!
I made a trailer with 24" wheels and an old plastic container from Safeway. The tongue of the trailer fits on a "U-bolt" that is attached to the end of my rear rack. The tongue has an "eye bolt" at the end that fits over the U-bolt to give me a complete range of motion so there are no binds. I can get 6 shopping bags in it, but usually only care four, as there is just me to feed.
Thank you very much for your videos. I am fond of cycling and I am learning English, for these two reasons I love to watch your videos. very happy year 2022 to all.
Wonderful! Thank you for letting me know and I'm glad you find the videos useful! Happy 2022 to you as well.
This is great - works even for soft tail bikes, like my e-bike!
That's excellent to know.
Nice. I do the exact same thing. I have the previous model of the Travel. Had it for almost 10 years. Love it!
Amazing! It's great to know the trailer has lasted this long. It's such a useful trailer and perfect for grocery runs.
I used one of those regular folding wireframe shopping totes with the plastic wheels. I made an extension bar to connect the tote to the bike. It rides tilted like yours. I put better quality wheels on. An easy and cheap job.
Your system is nicer and probably rides better but mine holds a lot more stuff. I've had it loaded to the brim with heavy stuff like drinks, rice, flour, cans... I love pushing it to the limit. Oh, I have an ebike so no effort on my part to ride it, even going up steep hills.
Except for the ebike, It's a really cheap and effective setup. Also have a pannier for more fragile stuff like eggs.
I think that if you can and know how to DIY things, then there are more cost effective solutions like yours that will become available. If you're not into DIY then you pay for things.
That trailer is cool! Being able to use it as a shopping cart is really cool!!!
Agreed! Love that functionality as well.
WOW Amazing never thought their was such thing as Trailer for bycles only bags now i really want one
Definitely is. 😉
the Travoy is really great for shopping. I've had mine for years. I found these elastic cargo nets with loops that are fantastic for holding larger items to the trailer
Thanks for sharing your experience and for the tip about using cargo nets to expand capacity.
Nice. I plan to use the double kids bike trailer for grocery shopping as it has much bigger 2 x 20” wheels and can fit both kids and plenty of shopping at back and at their feet.
I think others do this as well. In the end it's about what you have and/or can repurpose to make things easier.
gente achei tudo esse bike trailer para fazer compras, é bafonico mesmo, congratulations
Thank you for sharing!
This trailer was made for groceries, laundry ect great trailer ,each trailer is made for a specific purpose, for example I use a cargo trailer for cross-country ,it's wide base,low center of gravity and balance is 2/3 on the back of trailer,,
Yes, I believe that at one point it was referred to as the Burley Travoy Urban Trailer. The "urban" has since been dropped from the name.
@@WheelsonaBike mine is a custom made trailer, and my custom panniers racks are custom to,had them welded by a friend, I could not find a trailer or rack system built for tours without spending high dollar
You're very lucky to know someone who can do this. DIY can save a lot of money!
@@WheelsonaBike normal use any good trailer will work for daily tasks, the good trailer system that tour people use are custom or high end single track system, due to the amount of time I spend on tour, I had to get a system made for my bike, good to have friends who weld
Nice video! Running errands on a bicycle is so much fun (and very convenient!) in my opinion :-).
When I first tried a grocery run on my bicycle, I used our burley child trailer. It's amazing how much it can hold! I didn't realize it for months, but the "seat" in there unclips and lays flat, making it a nice large covered flatbed trailer 🎉. You can pick them up pretty inexpensively as well; I just saw a decent one at Goodwill for $16.
These days, I'm taking a Yuba Mundo cargo bicycle to the store; it has a large basket in the front and two paniers in the back each large enough to fit my 6 y.o. entirely in lol.
Thanks for sharing how it started and how it's going. 😉 What an amazing find at Goodwill! I've never thought of checking for bike items there.
Thank you for sharing this. I admire your dedication to incorporating your bike into everyday errands. I've been using panniers for shopping runs but just got a Burley dog trailer and it is really fun taking my 5 month old pup out for a ride. Best of wishes for 22!
Thank you for watching. Going places by bike is the most time efficient way of getting where I need to go for me. I hope you enjoy the Burley Dog trailer. How does you dog like it? What's the riding experience like?
@@WheelsonaBike Currently, we only ride 5-6 km's before he wants to bust out, but he climbs in the trailer without hesitation and seems to like it. As a 35 pound pup, I can definitely feel the trailer back there, it's a good work out!
When we didn’t have a car, I used to do a week’s shopping on my bike with 2 large panniers and I made my own trailer out of a normal shopping trolley (as used by old ladies mainly) strapped onto the back of my bike rack with a couple of toe straps. I has 12% climb on the way home, so was glad of the low gears on my bike. Now I tend to shop more often so just use panniers, but we also have a dog trailer if I need to do a big shop with the bike.
I've seen a similar solution on bikes here as well - the shopping trolley. Panniers or a dog trailer would work very well as well, I think. It's good to have options.
Thanks for showing an alternative to panniers.
thanks to you, I found the rain cover for my Travoy - mange tak from Denmark - Sarah
Amazing! I'm so glad to hear that. Were you using something else before? Or you just didn't have one?
@@WheelsonaBike I used a raincover of a big backpack - It was not so practical as the new one - with love Sarah
I see. The Burley rain cover does fit like a glove and I like that it attaches to the trailer, which means I always have it with me when I need it.
Hello! Thank you for this cool video. I watched it and was inspired. I have grocery shopped on my bike. I have mainly done it with my back pack. You can get a good couple bags worth in the back pack, plus a couple light things can hang from handle bar. BUT, now I have recently gotten a used schwinn pet trailer, which I can carry a LOT in! I can get as many things like boxes of soda waters, bags of potatoes, stock up on cans, etc, as much as I can want. I will use the back pack mainly but also get the trailer out if I want to do a big shop. Its great to know I really can get all my needs now, self reliant in my car-free life. :)
Thank you for sharing your experience!
I have a Burley Coho XC and I love it. The Travoy looks like a great trailer for daily life. Thanks!
I know you rode partway across the country with the Coho. Do you ever use it for daily tasks?
@@WheelsonaBike I think if I lived in a smaller town with less bike theft I would feel more safe about using bike and trailer for grocery's etc but Windsor like many places is terrible for bike theft and I feel to anxious when I am in the store. Most things here are easily within walking distance so I usually walk.
For my grocery runs I have an inexpensive trailer I got at Canadian Tire ($150). I Lock my ebike but take my chances with the trailer
Right, I see your point. In your case you'd need to lock up both the bike and the trailer (if you took it along) and that'd already give it more visibility. It's great you have walking access to most places you need to get to.
Do you mean you don't lock the trailer at all? Just your ebike?
Cool video, I used my bike trailer for groceries for the first time today, a kid carrier style one, I can unhitch it & use it in stroller mode instead of a shopping trolley 🚴
I use the Burley CoHo XC trailer for large items at Costco or Sam's Club, but use just my Ortlieb Panniers for smaller things.
Thanks for sharing. Trailers and panniers are great for different occasions.
Now if the store was one of those cashier-less , item tracker types, would be even better. No need to unload. What a great rig, looks very well engineered. China copy coming in 3...2...1
You have great presentation skills, thought you'd hit 1K for new years. Gotta convert the view counts into subs. I think a LIVE on bike broadcast from the mean streets of Toronto would be slick.
Now that would be ideal! One day...
Re: your comment about subscriber count - that would've been nice, but I'm thrilled to be super close. I love that people are watching the videos, and engaging via comments. That, to me, is well worth the effort it takes to produce these videos. That and the constant learning! So - thank you for your support!
I'm not sure I could pull off a live, on bike broadcast. That would be a total disaster. 😂😂😂
@@WheelsonaBike disaster = ratings = subs. Always a silver lining.
You're funny. 😂😂😂 I've been thinking of doing some 360 videos, but have to work out the logistics first.
@@WheelsonaBike even funnier? If you done a fake shop, with cheetos, fruit loops, coke, ice cream- all the bad stuff.... the Kale was just too perfect. That must have been raw honey for $15 ! Make a cake for the 1K sub event, its coming.
You're super funny. Maybe that should be my Costco haul video. Buy all the junk. Making a cake, just like hosting a live stream would be a similar disaster. Maybe I should combine the two. 😂
That is a well designed trailer. The first time I saw it I thought it was a bit of an oddity. However, the overall length of bike with trailer is very short. I have shopped with a trailer before and the length has caused problems, this trailer would be not problem. Also the fact that you unhitch it and take it with you is very good.
This is the very first bike trailer I've owned and ridden with. Before I purchased it, I did see someone else use it in town and had a chat about it with them.
Just got The older travois they are really nice. I combined mine with an foldable E bike works great.
Nice! You can see a video of my homemade bike trailer on my channel. I converted a double children's trailer. The finished article has a larger volume capacity than a supermarket trolley. I'm not able to wheel it round inside the store though like yours!
Just watched the video. Amazing that you were able to do this. I'm always impressed by DIY designs.
@@WheelsonaBike thanks for watching!
I absolutely love the Travoy concept. Only thing thats hold me back in buying one is my pannierrack. I can nowhere find the exact extended lenght of the tube from the seatpost to the handle of the Travoy. I'm scared my pannierrack is keeping the Travoy from turning.
Burley sells a part you can install on the rack which will attach the trailer to the rack, instead of the Seatpost. You can look into that solution.
@@WheelsonaBike Thanks, I'm aware of that solution.
I've used a backpack, pannier and a similar upright trailer.
Thanks for sharing your experience. There are so many ways to get groceries by bike.
I wasn't going to subscribe, but your videos are so well made that I am looking forward to more.
Thank you.
Thank you for subscribing. I'm glad you find the videos valuable.
My big question is whether you have ever gotten approached by supermarket security for placing items you haven't paid for yet inside a personal trolley. I could imagine that some supermarkets might have policies against this, or ask you to use the carts they provide while shopping, which would make the Travoy an additional burden to wheel around with your shopping cart.
Never. These types of shopping trolleys are very commonly used in Canada and people wheel them around when grocery shopping all the time. There was a brief period when external bags were not permitted during the pandemic, but that ended and now everyone is back shopping with their reusable bags and trolleys.
I carry my Travoy in my small plane, alongside my Montague folder bike. I carry 8 to 12 gallons on car gas on it, as I don't need or want to burn Avgas. It saves me about 2 bucks a gallon, so it has paid for itself many times over.
I have a Carry Freedom small Y trailer that I have been using since April 2015. Fitted with a 48 litre "Really Useful Box with lid". Not so easy to handle off the bike as the Burley but very stable with either light or bulky load. The local people in the village are now quite used to seeing me with it, but I hear the occasional "look at that" comment from tourists as I pass by! Large light items like 20 pack of toilet rolls, or crate with twenty half litre bottles of beer, can easily be strapped on top of the box with all other grocery items inside. It is best not to leave it unattended with a crate of full beer bottles on top though! I did mange to roll it once being a bit too ambitious with speed over a kerb on a corner. Fortunately no damage to either equipment or contents. Can't shop as quick as you because it is not suitable to use in the shop. I think of it as a car boot (trunk). And no, I wouldn't go back round the shop for kale!
Thank you for sharing this. I think most trailers, even ones I see in town are flatbed. Those are the most functional. It's incredible how much you can carry and also funny to hear how amazed people are, just because you're pulling something by bike.
I laughed when I read your kale comment. 🤣
Another good video. And Burley trailers rock.
Agreed! Someone in the comments mentioned that he's had his for over 10 years! Now that's ROI!
I use Specialized Coolcave Panniers but this trailer seems very useful.
Panniers do the trick. The trailer is definitely more convenient, but panniers work!
Great video, I use panniers and a backpack. But curious how this works in winter and Al, the slush and snow.
I think that's a great solution. Panniers worked for me for a long while. The trailer has a cover and that protects everything from the slush spraying up. The wheels can handle slush, fresh snow, not so much. I don't typically ride on snow, unless it's hard packed. I typically ride on roads and trails that have been cleared or received winter grooming.
That thing would be great for fishing. Being able to jack knife would get you into tight places
Very good idea to use the trailer as the shopping trolley, and avoid overbuying beyond what you can carry. I am looking to use the Burley Coho for this, but it is not so easy with that model. Make a front handle for it and use it like a wheel-barrow?
There you go. There are always solutions to problems. A wheel barrow style shopping cart it is!
I shop weekly for groceries and use large panniers typically loading up to 15 kilos. Part of my route takes me over walking bridges and a dirt canal path. I don’t believe the trailer would do well in this route. I also like that with a panniers, the bike is still fairly maneuverable unencumbered by a trailer. My panniers are waterproof so I don’t have to mess with a cover. The advantage with this trailer though is its dual purpose serving as a shopping cart which is nice. And I’m in a townhouse so there are no stairs or elevators to contend with. Of course, trailers have a much higher loading capacity so you can put much more weight than panniers. Bakfiets is an option that is seen more in the Netherlands.
Thanks for this helpful video - I'm riding 100 miles in just over a week to pick up a Travoy trailer for a bargain £80 for my mum.
Sorry what you and your fellow riders are going through in Toronto with Doug Ford, hope it all works out in the end.
That's a GREAT find! Good for you and your mum.
Yes, very unfortunate what the Premier is doing. Pathetic really.
Nice review and demo. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I like the trailer its a good design, I shop for two people and cook a lot so the trailer looks a little small for me and the price is a little high,, thanks for the video
Love this!
Thank you.
Well done. I did not see you lock your bike in the bikeroom. Did I miss it or are bikes never stolen from the bikeroom?
I definitely lock up the bike in the bike room. While I don't show everything I do in the videos, the bike is secured.
Salut . C'est vrais que ta remorque est bien pratique , elle est compact et la fixation au vélo est facile . Moi j'utilise une remorque mono roue de la marque EXTRAWHEEL , mais je ne peux pas la prendre à la main dans les magasins , alors elle reste accrochée à mon vélo en permanence " C'est dommage ! " Merci pour ta superbe vidéo et bonne nouvelle année mon amie . A bientôt . Le Coyote .
Happy New Year to you as well. And yes, there are many trailers that can be used for this purpose. I got this one as I saw someone else using it and thought it was a fantastic concept. But in the end, the purpose is the same, to carry items. Pros and cons to everything.
@@WheelsonaBike Et oui !
That Burley trailer is totally logical!
Just now watched Ryan Van Duzer's "Nude Food" video for the first time! Come on "bicycle popularity!" Everyone, get onto bicycles/tricycles!
FWIW: Globally, we may have no choice but to get onto bikes/trikes, both family & cargo!!!
Burley trailers are good apart from water spraying up from wheels when its wet , I made side protectors for mine, I've the older model and the bag it comes with rubs on wheels , its an ok design but has a few faults
Thanks for sharing. Water spraying up is not a big problem in this model. I think there's more spray from my wheel onto to trailer than from the trailer wheels themselves.
Cool video, super wholesome
At 2:17, _"I'm actually a bit surprised that there isn't a bike lockup area just outside of the grocery store itself, but..."_ I'm actually a bit surprised that your bike is still there when you come out of the store ;-) Good video.
😂 They'd have to grind the locks and that'd make a lot of noise. It's too busy there for that. But it's been done before.
@@WheelsonaBike, it takes less than 5 minutes with an angle grinder. I take my pedals off and remove my seat if I park my Devinci (locked of course) for any length of time.
@@MrJx4000 We all do different things to keep our bikes secure. If taking the pedals and the saddle off is your preferred way - perfect.
@@WheelsonaBike, just an FYI: last fall, I saw a guy escorting his carbon fibre Devince road bike (C$3k w/tax) down the isle of a big-box grocery store, while carrying a hand basket in the other hand.
I believe it! I've taken my gravel bike inside a cafe before. Apparently it's a thing people do - I was super uncomfortable, but nobody stole my "nice bike".
I have a question. I made my own ebike conversion. Of course ebikes are heavier and mine is 40lbs more weight near the rear. I see many people in the stores here bring their bikes inside the store with them and shop. I am no where near comfortable locking my bike up outside. With this in mind I flip out my rear basket (they fold up tight and are auto unfold) and throw things into one or both if needed. I find this quite awkward though. Reaching into cooler doors or anything that requires 2 hands my bike wants to fight me and lay down because of all that extra weight. I am wondering if a rear kickstand next to the back wheel will help with this. Currently I have a center one that is a duel /\ style that is very stable BUT I can' keep it down while its rolling. It would be nice if there was one that had wheels on it :) Any ideas?
I really don't know how to answer this question. My suggestion would be to speak to a mechanic at a bike shop that sells ebikes.
Unfortunately, this is always a problem for all bike's, e or otherwise.
If you can remove your battery easily, take it with you.
I have an ordinary basic pedal power only bike and when I'm leaving it where I'm not comfortable I have a 2 metre long diamond rated chain and lock (gold rated if it's used on a motorbike) plus a heavy D lock. The two weigh in at over 8kgs. They're not a guarantee but they would certainly make a potential thief work for the bike if they really wanted it. Although it would defeat the purpose of the heavy duty locks if whatever I locked them to was much easier to cut instead.
On an e-bike, an additional 8kg would be unnoticeable and take your battery with you. Have a backpack with you always just for that. It also depends a lot on where you park up your bike.
I understand your concern.
Fear of theft is a greater deterrent to more people using bike's or especially e-bike's than infrastructure or safety.
You can park up a €70k Tesla in a supermarket car park all day and all night with infinite more confidence than you would lock up a €2k e-bike even with a couple of good quality heavy duty locks. 🥺
Be brave. And maybe also be insured!
first and foremost, this is an excellent review, thank you so much! i've got myself a travoy after watching your video. I am worried about the quality of the trailer itself, especially the fabric as it gives me a feeling that it is easy to tear apart? i would like to seek for your advice / thoughts on it for long term use.
in addition, the upper / lower market bag is too expensive (approx. $150 each)... i've got the accessory clips / strap from burley and decided to hook on the grocery shopping bag instead. it's cool to see u film this review in Toronto and shopping at Sobeys :) thanks again for the review.
Excellent to know you also purchased the trailer. The fabric has not torn, I know it looks like it might, but I've had no issues and I use the trailer often to carry various items. Making your own bags is a good idea. Definitely cost effective.
Very helpful, thanks
Awesome video indeed! But I live in suburban area, where the bicyclists are still treated like the white crows/wackos, and still thinking which trailer to choose. Nomad or Travoy🤔With vegan greetings🙏🏻🍀💚
While the perception towards cyclists in Toronto is changing, many still perceive cycling as a nuisance.
Nice trailer cart👍👁❤
I like it as well.
Do you think it would work well, for just groceries independent of using it on a bicycle? I’m thinking about buying one for my bicycle but there are times I might use it simply for grocery shopping and the Metro Bus.
It would work, but keep in mind that it will be heavier than a regular trolley. But it would definitely work without a bicycle and I have also used it on its own.
@@WheelsonaBike Great! Then I’m gonna order one soon!
Did you ask permission to use the trailer in the store? Love the bit of you running back to get your camera!. Happy New year for 2022 and STAY SAFE!!
No. We don't typically have to ask permission to wheel trolleys in to a store. Do you need permission where you're at? Or is it because of the pandemic? There were restrictions specific to bringing reusable bags last year, but those are no longer in place. Happy 2022 to you as well!
@@WheelsonaBike I am pretty sure in the UK security would be on you like a tonne of bricks.
And why is that? Is it because of the pandemic? Or is it generally unacceptable to bring in a shopping trolley when shopping?
@@WheelsonaBike it's very unusual in the UK to see people using personal bags when in the shop. It looks very suspicious, almost like going around the shop with a big raincoat on and putting everything in your pockets. An older woman might be ok doing it but I wouldn't like to try it. I'd only use the panniers after going through the checkout, nothing to do with COVID. How's the Kona sutra doing, I bought mine a year ago but due to circumstances haven't used it yet.
Oh wow! It's highly encouraged here to use reusable bags and this includes trolleys while shopping. There was a brief pause on this due to the pandemic measures, but it quickly reverted back to normal. We also don't have security in the stores.
The Sutra made it out yesterday, first time this season. Spring is on its way! I hope you enjoy riding the bike! Something to look forward to.
I use 2 big panniers of 35 liter each. Or a 90 liter trailer > Big Boy by Roland bike trailers.
Thank you for sharing.
Need light tan bags. Black absorbs heat.
Thanks. Just filled up my car with gas.
$106USD. Most of my driving is short trips to the local grocer and drug store. After a couple of knee surgeries, I've gotten lazy/complacent and just kept using the car. I was going to upcycle (pun intended) an old wheelbarrow, but the price of metal and parts is insane right now.
Ouch, that's a lot for gas. Perhaps that'll be motivation enough to start "upcycling" those wheel barrows.
@@WheelsonaBike Right? I'm thinking about getting the Tavoy as hardware has gotten insanely expensive, and I have to focus on home repair.
Thank you 😊
My store doesn’t let you bring your rolling cart in I had a folding cart in their shopping cart and woman said leave it outside.
I'm sorry to hear that. I've noy encountered this in Ontario, Canada.
I just use panniers and any excess groceries go on my handlebar hanging out
Love it! How far is the cycle to the store?
This particular store is only about 2 km away.
@@WheelsonaBike, and if it snows heavily, you bring out your snowmobile, right (they'll fit in the bike lanes)? 😉
Actually, cross country skis. Those would be perfect! 😂
@@WheelsonaBike We had a lot of snow in Michigan this year and there have been lots of people cross country skiing, it looks like so much fun! If enough snow was guaranteed every year I'd really consider buying some.
We've also had more snow in Toronto this year, but also a lot of fluctuating weather. Having said that, I've seen many people cross country skiing in the city. It's great to see!
brilliant
Thanks very useful
Glad it was.
Trouble is the new travoy doesn’t come with bags time you add bags it gets really expensive!
Yes. That's true. I don't think the old Travoy came with bags either?
That's because you can choose from a couple type of bags which have different prices.
Nice
Is there any way to attach a normal shopping cart to a bike? Do they sell the attachment arms separately?
No idea, but maybe someone has already thought of this. Keep Googling. I also don't know if they sell the attachment arms separately, but Burley does sell replacement parts, so maybe.
Hi could I ask about the front cargo rack that is installed on the bike featured in this video can I ask what it's called what brand etc? Thank you.
I had to rewatch the video as I don't have a front rack on this bike. I think you're asking about the basket? It's part of the handlebars. Evo Brooklyn fortnine.ca/en/evo-brooklyn-handlebar-bicycle-basket-720566-01?gclid=CjwKCAjw_uGmBhBREiwAeOfsd1rU5-pz1W0WWm0FBILMG-SarqPXKHa_sdE3eKhYyKIoMTWBDN03aRoC1yoQAvD_BwE
Thank you for such a quick reply yes I meant the basket I couldn't think what the correct name for it was.
So since it is part of the bikes frame it is not something you could installl on another bike.
I have seen similar baskets which can be bought separately and then install on a bike as long as the frame is compatible.
I just particularly liked the look of the basket shown in the video.
Can I also ask are you still using the trailer feature in the video and if so how is it holding up?
It's not part of the bike frame. It's part of the handlebars. Those can definitely be replaced.
Oh ok thank you for explaining it I will look into if there are any compatible with my bike. @@WheelsonaBike
You're welcome. I realize I didn't answer your other question. Yes! I still use the trailer and I've had no problems with it so far. It's a great workhorse.
such a useful item! great idea! i just dont know why you wear a mask out in the middle of outdoors with no one even remotely close to u.
That's a balaclava, not a mask, and I wear it in winter to keep myself warm. If you commented on the fact that it's not a proper mask I was wearing inside, during a pandemic, you'd be making a good point. The face cover part has ventilation holes to help with moisture accumulation.
@@WheelsonaBike i see. good idea/keep your face warm for sure.
But how do you keep things cold that need to be cold? Just wondering, as I would love to do grocery runs on a bike in the near future.
If you need things super cold, then I'd take a portable, lined (lunch type) bag. I've never had to keep things ice cold, and ice cream lasts just fine without the extra lined bag, as I don't live too far away from the grocery store.
Take a chilled goods bag with you and put all of your frozen goods in it together. They will stay frozen for a long time.
Unless you live in Death Valley? Do you live in Death Valley?
The follow up question made me laugh... 😂😂😂
Sorry I couldn't be your 1K sub! One more to go!
Oh, thank you! I found your channel by searching for Arkel content. I love their bags.
@@WheelsonaBike I do too! I've done two bike packing trips with the bags. Will eventally put videos out on both in the next couple of months :D
I'll look forward to watching them. I have their touring bags, but also have the frame bag. Would love to hear your opinion on that one.
what do people use for much bigger shops? our shopping would be 3 or 4 times more than this.
People would use a cargo bike for a much bigger shop.
@@WheelsonaBike which one? i’d like a shopping trolley that attaches to a bike. can’t find one
A cargo bike is not a trolley. It's a bike designed for hauling things. I have a review of the Urban Arrow on the channel.
how would you carry a costco sized case of water bottles with a bike?
I'm not sure what a Costco sized case of water bottles looks like, but if it wouldn't fit on the trailer, I'd go with Auto Share and bring it by car. I use the best tool I have available for the job, and if what I have in terms of bike setup won't cut it, I'll rent a car for a couple of hours.
thank you
have you tried to use it on snowing winter?
I have not. I have used it in the winter, but on cleared pathways.
I carry the eggs in the bike rack and the bags in the handlebars and God bless me 😅
Awwwww i want one 😳😩
That was my exact reaction when I saw it being used by someone else. 😉
i use big backpack
Got me a folding bike and push it around grocery stores all the time and no 1 ever said anything it was a tom thumb and aldi's
Would love to get a folding bike, I've had my eye on a brompton electric for some time. Would take it everywhere!
That trailer is bigger than I thought
Are you using the 1st gen or 2nd gen?
It's the second generation. The biggest difference are the kickstand and the wheel guards.
? Available to Australia $ how much 0:15
I'm not a seller of these, you can consult their website to find out.
I suppose that would Hook to a electric bike as well.
Yes, it does attach to mine ebike as well. Some ebikes have a different seatpost, but as long as the seatpost falls within the suggested measurements, and it's round, it will fit.
Would be nice (for cyclists) to be able to take their bike equipped with baskets or panniers, say, inside a grocery store so you wouldn't have to lock up your bicycle outside and risk having it get stolen.
I'm not sure I'd want to take my bike inside a store, I think is find it too clunky. I'd like more secure storage solutions in front.
@@WheelsonaBikeYou are right. As currently engineered, bikes make poor in-store shopping carts. Engineers, however, could create a simple device to make a bicycle much less clunky. And yes, secure storage in front would be great! Unfortunately, this type of security is almost non-existent especially in cities. As you know, bikes are stolen left-and-right. So, what to do, as commercial stores probably see little to no benefits in setting up and maintaining secure lock up facilities for bikes? I expect nothing to change in this regard anytime soon, which is why I believe cyclists need to be allowed to shop inside with their two-wheeler that's been adapted specifically for this purpose. I've even dreamed of starting a business, could be mobile, to secure peoples’ bikes while shopping. Maybe someone will read this and make millions with such a business venture ☺
@@jolly7728 I use my Brompton, either folded to “trolley mode”, or completely folded and placed in a shopping cart. I won’t shop where my Brompton is relegated to unsecured storage.
@@swashfrogsailor Yes, that’s definitely a great way to go if stores allow it. Wish I had such a nice foldable bike. Not so sure they’d allow it in most supermarket in the states. And I do hope there is such a thing as secure parking. For me, the ideal way forward would be to simply take my basic touring bike with me into a store. I do realize grocery stores aren’t currently setup for this. A minor change would solve the problem-they could get rid of all the products saturated with refined sugar to open up enough floor space for customers with bikes in tow😊
you have an irish accent :)
I think I have a Polish accent, as I'm Polish, but people do say my accent sounds Irish all the time. 😉
😲😱 I'm Irish and I can't say I noticed anything other than a very eloquent blend of perfect North American Canadian English and a very slight touch of Polish or Eastern European. Maybe there are some similar inflections in the Ontarion accent?
I'll take that. I don't think my accent sounds Irish at all.