Literally on a layover in Lisbon flying the A330 Neo from Chicago. It wasn’t a full flight, so I think an A321 LR offering for off-season flights makes huge amounts of sense! It was already a fairly cheap flight especially for Econ Extra, but it would be nice if they can maximize a smaller aircraft and drop prices even more to match the savings!
It will make airline planning significantly easier and save a lot of money. I should have had Paris - Moscow flight on A330-200, as high demand was expected bit was changed to A320 (which made me sad) ending up being 70% full. This can be also done on long haul routes where it was complicated to find alternative before. As an example with 150 tickets sold flight from EWR to LIS it will be better to use A321 rather than A330. Also airports not to get any Transatlantic routes now can get connected directly to hub on another side of Atlantic.
TAP Air Portugal A321LR's is doing really well on Long Haul Routes Plus there A330Neos will operate better on Other Routes where they can fill there Seats on both Planes!!!!
I love TAP. I fly many times a year to and from Portugal on the A330 neo and A321LR. They never fail to disappoint and their hard and soft products have increased massively since the days of the A330 ceo and A340.
I flew on them back in 2019! Great airline, seats were also comfortable on the A321LR. I flew on CS-TXA to Porto from EWR, and then CS-TXB from Porto to EWR on the roundtrip!
Sou Pt, viajei em montes de companhias áreas , inclusive americanas (TWA e outras, que já desapareceram), mas a TAP dá-me segurança . O serviço é péssimo para voos do domésticos mas é a TAP, tenho confiança!!
I'll have to consider TAP for my next trip to Portugal. Flying direct from North America sounds more efficient than transfering in LHR, CDG, or FRA. The nearest airport served by TAP is Toronto (YYZ), three time zones east of here on the West Coast (YVR). Update: I've checked the routings. One of the cheaper options combines WestJet and Easyjet. Via CDG, alas. TAP from YYZ is much quickter.
@@dairokkan.sg2 Thanks for the heads up. I meant Toronto, which I've been to once, for an ATA conference in this century no less. "My memory's good, just short. Canadian airports don't have mnemonic codes. Besides, my business didn't take me to Canada, just the US, Europe, and once to Australia.
I flew on tap from chicago to Lisbon and i highly recommend. Tickets were affordable, staff were kind, on board entertainment was great, and the food was surprisingly good for airplane food.
Apart from the short-field performance where the now ageing 757 remains King, I think it would be a very blinkered person who fails to accept that the A321 is now the best at what it does. What an opportunity, the once great Boeing missed, but, who knows what the future may bring!
I’ve just arrived from a return trip to Newark on these new A321LR. They’re quite modern and very quiet indeed. It’s nice that the boarding and disembarking process are quick, due to their sizes. Another nice tough is that internet is available onboard and texting (WhatsApp and iMessage) is available for free. It was a shame though that on our return to Europe journey the plane was just half full… Given their business model (“flying thinner routes with smaller aircraft to it’s easier to fill the plane”) I’m not so sure if they were happy it. Also, but unrelated to the video, Portuguese authorities can be quite confusing with the laws and regulations for Covid and codeshares, so be prepared for a queue and make sure you have got all the paperwork ready 👍🏻
Dropping all bogus C-19 restrictions worldwide, is the only way for Airlines & Travel to return to normal. The WEF and Green propaganda are a fake "new religion" with Lockdowns and plan-demics as their strongarm mechanism of this latest Globalist COVIDIOCY CULT. I will SHOUT this forever. If you want my or my families business $$$ REJECT these lies. ONLY then will we fly again. No Masks No Restrictions Total FREEDOM In JESUS Name....
SF, is there a marked difference in travel time of a loaded fuel efficient narrow body versus a loaded fuel efficient wide body? E.g. 787 vs 321LR on transatlantic routes? (Perhaps this isn't a factor, and why I don't recall having heard anyone making the comparison.)
I think there’s a potential for a successful Portuguese ULCC that operates narrow bodies like the A220 between the americas and destinations in Europe by way of the Azores islands
I’m not convinced it’s a particularly strong position - The market is heading towards the point-to-point model and Portugal itself is quite far out of the way in Europe for onwards travel (compared to the likes of Amsterdam/Frankfurt etc).
You have argued your own position there mate. The whole idea of the point-to-point model is that onward travel is not required. Point-to-point: Fly direct to destination Hub-and-spoke: Fly to destination via a stopover somewhere
@@Zebacha exactly - how much more will the demand be to Lisbon than it is now? And I mean onward travel for people in that region of Europe - not getting other flights.
@@Hilts931 TAP's core business is the point-to-point. Most of their routes are to/from Brazil and several Portuguese language African countries. Something like 95% of the people travelling those routes are going to/from Portugal. The exception is the North American routes, and its due to those routes that they created their stopover program where you can schedule the onwards flight for a few days later and still pay the same. Its been very successful
@@Hilts931 the demand to lisbon will keep increasing. A new and bigger airport is already being planned out cause the current airport can't handle the rapidly increasing demand and traffic.
In 2015 when I was in Madeira, one of the locals called TAP by their local not so nice nickname of Take Another Plane. Fast forward a few months, and I'm on a TAP A320 flying the LHR-LIS route. Great service, but the flag carriers always seem to reserve their best service for their international routes. Between the location of their LIS hub and the newer Airbus offerings, they are in a great location to run narrowbody aircraft all over the Atlantic. I could only imagine how they'd be able to use the A321XLR on their network.
half the portuguese population wants TAP privatized or completly scrapped. the other half belives that is necessary to conect the portuguese comunites (despite the portuguese comunities using Ryanair because TAP fees are 5x higher in some situations) the portuguese pay for a TAP ticket twice. in their taxes and when they reserve a fligth. TAP is a monster sucking the poorest people in western europe and paying to its employees some of the highest salaries in portugal and in the world of aviation, despite beeing in bankrupcy. the EU had to put european funds there make a special case for this company, because what the portuguese government is doing with TAP is borderline ilegal in european competition laws. TAP also uses its monopoly in Lisbon airports to charge extreme fees to the portuguese. it also serves the northern part of the country very badly
@@Duck-wc9de- The EU never put any money into TAP. The EU doesnt lend companies money, its just not how it works. - TAP pays way more in taxes than what it has taken from the government. Gettinv rid of TAP would also be disastrous for the GDP numbers and most certainly lead to tax increases. TAP SA, the airline itself, has always been profitable. Its TAP SGPS, which includes catering, handling, the ruinous maintenance business in Brazil, among other things, that loses money. - notice how you complain about TAP losing money while at the same time being off3nded that they try to maximize revenue by flying less to Porto
@@fgsaramago TAP is a public company. I feel ofended that they are taking our money and, also from Porto and the north, wich is just 30-35% of the portuguese economy. TAP burns Money to fly and the only argument people can put up is that "it serves the portuguese comunities". Currently is not making a profit nor serving the comunities. Is failing on both. And your arguments are simply Bullshit. The european Union Gave Money to Portugal as a recovery package, and the portuguese government requested to use a lot of that Money on TAP, and Brussels aproved. So, yes, the EU did not Gave Money to TAP, it Gave Money to the portuguese government that the portuguese government used on TAP. The economy won't colapse if TAP does, because there are a lot of companies ready to take its space. Actually, turism migh even increase without TAP, because the company is extremly ineficient and has lots of time slots that are just sit unused in certain schedules.
They became an Airbus only carrier some 20 years ago after they retired the Tristar in 97 and the 737 in 2001. Even the ATRs and Embraer are on the subsidiary and not the main fleet.
TAP's geographical position and their more efficiant planes look good on paper. But that's all worthless, as they are amongst the worst airlines concerning passenger service in general and onboard service in particular.
Sweet heart ... TAP doenst turn a profit. its supported by the portuguese state ( in 2020 it got more than the armed forces and the ministery of education combined). half the population wants it privatized or completly dismantled. it also uses its monopoly in portuguese airports to charge a lot more than its competitors and occupies slots in airports. for instance, the Portuguese prime minister, during his campain, went to the islands of Azores. there he talked about the importance of TAP in conecting them to continent. the funny thing is that he, himself, went to the islands in Ryanair because TAP didnt had any flights to the islands at that time, and those that had in the end of the day were 5x more expensive. TAP pilots are also one of the highest paying profession in the country, some payed more than 10x the average national salary, depite the company beeing in bankrupcy and beeing payed with the money of the portuguese taxpayers and even the money of german and dutch taxpayers by the european funds. yes... TAP is going to recive MORE money from the pandemic recovery funds that ALL OTHER portuguese companies and enterprises COMBINED. this company is a monster that is sucking the poorest people in western europe. its also one of the companies with the most complains and allways ranking in the 3 worst european airlines.
TAP is a terrible airline. Look up the US DOT report of complaints. TAP is a relatively small company but it consistently ranks in top 3 for most complaints filed. I’d avoid using TAP at all costs!
Airbus is going to ruin Trans Atlantic and long haul routes and I will not fly these piles of shit! The prices will be the same but jammed in a shuttle plane to cross Atlantic or further! Bs! I will not fly any airline (3 hours plus) that far unless it’s a double aisle jet! This sucks!
I like these airline showcase videos that focus more on the fleet and future plans as opposed to their history.
Certainly agree!
Literally on a layover in Lisbon flying the A330 Neo from Chicago. It wasn’t a full flight, so I think an A321 LR offering for off-season flights makes huge amounts of sense! It was already a fairly cheap flight especially for Econ Extra, but it would be nice if they can maximize a smaller aircraft and drop prices even more to match the savings!
What were you doing in Chicago?
@@Victorious.Pakistan I live there! On a leisure trip to Portugal to get away from the cold!
@@gmjacobs24 you poor thing
It will make airline planning significantly easier and save a lot of money. I should have had Paris - Moscow flight on A330-200, as high demand was expected bit was changed to A320 (which made me sad) ending up being 70% full. This can be also done on long haul routes where it was complicated to find alternative before. As an example with 150 tickets sold flight from EWR to LIS it will be better to use A321 rather than A330. Also airports not to get any Transatlantic routes now can get connected directly to hub on another side of Atlantic.
TAP Air Portugal A321LR's is doing really well on Long Haul Routes Plus there A330Neos will operate better on Other Routes where they can fill there Seats on both Planes!!!!
I love TAP. I fly many times a year to and from Portugal on the A330 neo and A321LR. They never fail to disappoint and their hard and soft products have increased massively since the days of the A330 ceo and A340.
I flew on them back in 2019! Great airline, seats were also comfortable on the A321LR. I flew on CS-TXA to Porto from EWR, and then CS-TXB from Porto to EWR on the roundtrip!
TAP is such a great airline with a brilliant hub location
I have flown to Madeira in an 321neo and its one of the best experiences I've had in Europe same with the e190
TAP Air Portugal is seeing and showing how versatile the A321LR is, as a short to medium. long haul aircraft.
A fantastic a diverse fleet of aircraft.
Sou Pt, viajei em montes de companhias áreas , inclusive americanas (TWA e outras, que já desapareceram), mas a TAP
dá-me segurança . O serviço é péssimo para voos do domésticos mas é a TAP, tenho confiança!!
I'll have to consider TAP for my next trip to Portugal. Flying direct from North America sounds more efficient than transfering in LHR, CDG, or FRA. The nearest airport served by TAP is Toronto (YYZ), three time zones east of here on the West Coast (YVR).
Update: I've checked the routings. One of the cheaper options combines WestJet and Easyjet. Via CDG, alas. TAP from YYZ is much quickter.
Wait did you mean Toronto (YYZ) or Calgary (YYC)?
@@dairokkan.sg2 Thanks for the heads up.
I meant Toronto, which I've been to once, for an ATA conference in this century no less. "My memory's good, just short.
Canadian airports don't have mnemonic codes. Besides, my business didn't take me to Canada, just the US, Europe, and once to Australia.
I flew on tap from chicago to Lisbon and i highly recommend. Tickets were affordable, staff were kind, on board entertainment was great, and the food was surprisingly good for airplane food.
Speaking of the A321, I noticed on the flight radar 24 app recently that Aer Lingus used one on a Dublin to JFK trans Atlantic flight
They run them out of Toronto, as well. We almost booked it for a longer stopover, Toronto-Lisbon-Manchester.
Apart from the short-field performance where the now ageing 757 remains King, I think it would be a very blinkered person who fails to accept that the A321 is now the best at what it does.
What an opportunity, the once great Boeing missed, but, who knows what the future may bring!
Seems like you are right
O melhor! TAP!
Thank you very much.
Living in Portugal as an expat, I can say TAP is a hit or miss, or it is good or it is a nightmare.... it depends how lucky you are...
I’ve just arrived from a return trip to Newark on these new A321LR. They’re quite modern and very quiet indeed. It’s nice that the boarding and disembarking process are quick, due to their sizes. Another nice tough is that internet is available onboard and texting (WhatsApp and iMessage) is available for free. It was a shame though that on our return to Europe journey the plane was just half full… Given their business model (“flying thinner routes with smaller aircraft to it’s easier to fill the plane”) I’m not so sure if they were happy it. Also, but unrelated to the video, Portuguese authorities can be quite confusing with the laws and regulations for Covid and codeshares, so be prepared for a queue and make sure you have got all the paperwork ready 👍🏻
Dropping all bogus C-19 restrictions worldwide, is the only way for Airlines & Travel to return to normal.
The WEF and Green propaganda are a fake "new religion" with Lockdowns and plan-demics as their strongarm mechanism of this latest Globalist COVIDIOCY CULT.
I will SHOUT this forever.
If you want my or my families business $$$ REJECT these lies.
ONLY then will we fly again.
No Masks
No Restrictions
Total FREEDOM
In JESUS Name....
Why are you showing CEOs almost every time you mention the NEO?
SF, is there a marked difference in travel time of a loaded fuel efficient narrow body versus a loaded fuel efficient wide body? E.g. 787 vs 321LR on transatlantic routes? (Perhaps this isn't a factor, and why I don't recall having heard anyone making the comparison.)
Fico doida quando a grande preocupação central é o serviço a bordo ( alimentação etc..), eu preocupo-me é com a segurança. por isso escolho a TAP.
2:00 the 321LR goes to YYZ as well.
I think there’s a potential for a successful Portuguese ULCC that operates narrow bodies like the A220 between the americas and destinations in Europe by way of the Azores islands
Even better via the Canaries ......LPA in particular
A220-300 with 70.9T MTOW given 2 small ACT (+2.2T) will fly 140pax to 4000nm
TAP doesn’t operate the A220
is the company I pprefer to fly
🔥🔥🔥
TAP Lisbon IN: Europe's jump point to Brazil.
I’m not convinced it’s a particularly strong position - The market is heading towards the point-to-point model and Portugal itself is quite far out of the way in Europe for onwards travel (compared to the likes of Amsterdam/Frankfurt etc).
You have argued your own position there mate. The whole idea of the point-to-point model is that onward travel is not required.
Point-to-point: Fly direct to destination
Hub-and-spoke: Fly to destination via a stopover somewhere
@@Zebacha exactly - how much more will the demand be to Lisbon than it is now? And I mean onward travel for people in that region of Europe - not getting other flights.
@@Hilts931 TAP's core business is the point-to-point. Most of their routes are to/from Brazil and several Portuguese language African countries. Something like 95% of the people travelling those routes are going to/from Portugal. The exception is the North American routes, and its due to those routes that they created their stopover program where you can schedule the onwards flight for a few days later and still pay the same. Its been very successful
@@Hilts931 the demand to lisbon will keep increasing. A new and bigger airport is already being planned out cause the current airport can't handle the rapidly increasing demand and traffic.
In 2015 when I was in Madeira, one of the locals called TAP by their local not so nice nickname of Take Another Plane. Fast forward a few months, and I'm on a TAP A320 flying the LHR-LIS route. Great service, but the flag carriers always seem to reserve their best service for their international routes.
Between the location of their LIS hub and the newer Airbus offerings, they are in a great location to run narrowbody aircraft all over the Atlantic. I could only imagine how they'd be able to use the A321XLR on their network.
half the portuguese population wants TAP privatized or completly scrapped. the other half belives that is necessary to conect the portuguese comunites (despite the portuguese comunities using Ryanair because TAP fees are 5x higher in some situations)
the portuguese pay for a TAP ticket twice. in their taxes and when they reserve a fligth.
TAP is a monster sucking the poorest people in western europe and paying to its employees some of the highest salaries in portugal and in the world of aviation, despite beeing in bankrupcy. the EU had to put european funds there make a special case for this company, because what the portuguese government is doing with TAP is borderline ilegal in european competition laws.
TAP also uses its monopoly in Lisbon airports to charge extreme fees to the portuguese. it also serves the northern part of the country very badly
That fiscal mismanagement is common in all airlines owned/operated by governments.
@@Duck-wc9de iits rare to see such an amount of rubbish in a single comment 😂
@@Duck-wc9de- The EU never put any money into TAP. The EU doesnt lend companies money, its just not how it works.
- TAP pays way more in taxes than what it has taken from the government. Gettinv rid of TAP would also be disastrous for the GDP numbers and most certainly lead to tax increases.
TAP SA, the airline itself, has always been profitable. Its TAP SGPS, which includes catering, handling, the ruinous maintenance business in Brazil, among other things, that loses money.
- notice how you complain about TAP losing money while at the same time being off3nded that they try to maximize revenue by flying less to Porto
@@fgsaramago TAP is a public company. I feel ofended that they are taking our money and, also from Porto and the north, wich is just 30-35% of the portuguese economy.
TAP burns Money to fly and the only argument people can put up is that "it serves the portuguese comunities". Currently is not making a profit nor serving the comunities. Is failing on both.
And your arguments are simply Bullshit.
The european Union Gave Money to Portugal as a recovery package, and the portuguese government requested to use a lot of that Money on TAP, and Brussels aproved. So, yes, the EU did not Gave Money to TAP, it Gave Money to the portuguese government that the portuguese government used on TAP.
The economy won't colapse if TAP does, because there are a lot of companies ready to take its space. Actually, turism migh even increase without TAP, because the company is extremly ineficient and has lots of time slots that are just sit unused in certain schedules.
Dont worry their cabin crew try very hard to keep the soft product non competitive :)
Aer Lingus has the same advantages.
Lots of shots of A320ceo when talking of A321LRs lol
No thanks. Fly enough single aisle domestically in Canada. If im going intercontinental i want a widebody.
Flown many times MAN > LIS > IAD “cost effective” . Take your own entertainment.
What do you mean? MAN - LIS is operated by TAP express, so you shouldn’t expect any entertainment, but the A321LR from LIS to IAD has IFE’s.
Not a single Boeing in TAP's aircraft fleet? 🤔
They became an Airbus only carrier some 20 years ago after they retired the Tristar in 97 and the 737 in 2001. Even the ATRs and Embraer are on the subsidiary and not the main fleet.
@@DaMastaSkullFox Well ATR turboprops are made by a company that is 51% owned by Airbus, so they are almost Airbus planes as well.
They had the 727, 737 and 747 on their fleet before they went full Airbus.
@@Dave_Sisson yes you are technically correct, but, its a different brand. Also in their subsidiary they also have Embraier.
Your portuguese is great
TAP's geographical position and their more efficiant planes look good on paper. But that's all worthless, as they are amongst the worst airlines concerning passenger service in general and onboard service in particular.
Sweet heart ... TAP doenst turn a profit. its supported by the portuguese state ( in 2020 it got more than the armed forces and the ministery of education combined).
half the population wants it privatized or completly dismantled.
it also uses its monopoly in portuguese airports to charge a lot more than its competitors and occupies slots in airports.
for instance, the Portuguese prime minister, during his campain, went to the islands of Azores. there he talked about the importance of TAP in conecting them to continent. the funny thing is that he, himself, went to the islands in Ryanair because TAP didnt had any flights to the islands at that time, and those that had in the end of the day were 5x more expensive.
TAP pilots are also one of the highest paying profession in the country, some payed more than 10x the average national salary, depite the company beeing in bankrupcy and beeing payed with the money of the portuguese taxpayers and even the money of german and dutch taxpayers by the european funds.
yes... TAP is going to recive MORE money from the pandemic recovery funds that ALL OTHER portuguese companies and enterprises COMBINED.
this company is a monster that is sucking the poorest people in western europe.
its also one of the companies with the most complains and allways ranking in the 3 worst european airlines.
Só dizes merda
@@nelsondasilva7905 Exatamente!
TAP is a terrible airline. Look up the US DOT report of complaints. TAP is a relatively small company but it consistently ranks in top 3 for most complaints filed. I’d avoid using TAP at all costs!
They are a low cost, no frills carrier and that's exactly what you get. Limited leg room, mediocre food, but relatively cheap.
Avoid this at all cost if redeeming Star Alliance awards. It's the pits.
Its the safest airline in the world. Some people value that
Really poorly organized video.
Thank you for your feedback ✈️ - LR
Terrible airline never again . A complete mess
Airbus is going to ruin Trans Atlantic and long haul routes and I will not fly these piles of shit! The prices will be the same but jammed in a shuttle plane to cross Atlantic or further! Bs! I will not fly any airline (3 hours plus) that far unless it’s a double aisle jet! This sucks!
TAP's biggest advantage is its location